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The Lifeblood of Education: Exploring Equity and Inclusion · The Wheelhouse

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The
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love
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of
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learning,
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the
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love
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of
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inspiring
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others,
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the
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love
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of
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community,
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and
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the
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love
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of
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our
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intrinsic
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values
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as
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human
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beings.
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How
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do
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these
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values
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inspire
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us
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to
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cultivate
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hope?
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How
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do
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they
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really
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help
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us
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understand
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what
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diversity,
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equity
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and
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inclusion
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really
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mean?
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Find
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out.
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A
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new
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episode
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of
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the
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Wheelhouse
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begins
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right
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now.
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Thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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taking
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time
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out
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of
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your
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busy
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day
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to
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give
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us
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a
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listen.
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Season
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nine
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features
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a
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panel
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of
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four
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like
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minded
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friends
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and
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colleagues.
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Cathy,
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Monique,
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Michael
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Pipa,
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Dr.
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Alicia
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Munro,
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and
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yours
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truly.
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We've
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opened
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the
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conversation
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this
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season
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to
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think
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about
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empowering
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educators
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to
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cultivate
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hope.
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In
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this
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episode,
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the
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11th
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episode
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of
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this
1:04
season,
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we
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welcome
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Matthew
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Pinchonot,
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a
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pre
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K
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16
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educator
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and
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an
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administrator
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for
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diversity,
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equity
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and
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inclusion.
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In
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this
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episode,
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we
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engage
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with
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Matt
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on
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his
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own
1:17
experiences
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as
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a
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student,
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as
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a
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teacher,
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and
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as
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a
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diversity,
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equity
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and
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inclusion
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administrator.
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Particularly,
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we
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wanted
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to
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talk
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about
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why
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these
1:28
efforts
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are
1:29
so
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critical
1:30
for
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our
1:30
students.
1:32
What
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does
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diversity,
1:33
equity
1:34
and
1:34
inclusion
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really
1:35
mean?
1:36
For
1:37
whom
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are
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they
1:38
important
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and
1:40
how
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are
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they
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actually
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life
1:41
saving
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and
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life
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affirming?
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And
1:45
from
1:45
his
1:46
viewpoint,
1:47
what
1:47
must
1:47
we
1:47
do
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as
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educators
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to
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cultivate
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hope
1:50
and
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not
1:51
kill
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dreams?
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You
1:53
know,
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keep
1:53
in
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mind
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at
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the
1:54
end
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of
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the
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day
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that
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what
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we
1:55
do
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for
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some
1:56
children
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is
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even
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bigger
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than
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cultivating
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hope
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or
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killing
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dreams.
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It's
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a
2:01
matter
2:02
of
2:02
life
2:02
and
2:02
death.
2:03
This
2:04
was
2:04
such
2:04
a
2:04
great
2:05
conversation
2:05
and
2:05
there
2:06
were
2:06
so
2:06
many
2:07
intriguing
2:07
ideas
2:08
that
2:08
were
2:08
brought
2:08
to
2:09
the
2:09
space.
2:10
I
2:10
hope
2:10
you'll
2:10
listen
2:11
to
2:11
the
2:11
entire
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episode
2:12
to
2:13
hear
2:13
the
2:13
details,
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you
2:14
know,
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together,
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let's
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cultivate
2:16
hope
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for
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each
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and
2:18
every
2:18
student.
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And
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now,
2:20
episode
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11
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and
2:21
a
2:21
great
2:21
conversation
2:22
with
2:22
Matthew
2:23
Pinchonot.
2:23
You're
2:24
not
2:24
going
2:24
to
2:24
want
2:25
to
2:25
miss
2:25
this.
2:26
Take
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a
2:26
listen.
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Good
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morning.
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I'm
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Grant
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Chandler
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and
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you
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have
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landed
2:35
once
2:35
again
2:36
in
2:36
the
2:36
Wheelhouse.
2:37
We
2:37
are
2:38
so
2:38
glad
2:38
that
2:38
you
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are
2:39
here
2:40
to
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listen
2:41
to
2:41
us
2:42
engage
2:42
in
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another
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great
2:43
conversation
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about
2:44
cultivating
2:45
hope
2:45
or
2:46
killing
2:46
dreams.
2:47
As
2:48
we
2:48
always
2:48
say
2:49
every
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Tuesday
2:49
when
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we
2:50
record.
2:50
I
2:51
so
2:51
look
2:51
forward
2:51
to
2:51
this
2:52
time
2:52
together.
2:52
And
2:53
you
2:53
know,
2:53
we
2:54
don't
2:54
say
2:54
that
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as
2:54
a
2:55
cliche.
2:55
We
2:55
really
2:56
and
2:56
truly
2:56
love
2:57
being
2:58
together
2:58
in
2:59
this
2:59
space
2:59
and
2:59
I'm
2:59
super
3:00
excited
3:00
we
3:01
get
3:01
to
3:01
share
3:01
it
3:01
with
3:01
our
3:01
guests
3:02
today.
3:02
So
3:02
first,
3:03
before
3:04
we
3:04
introduce
3:05
him,
3:05
let
3:05
me
3:05
say
3:06
good
3:06
morning
3:06
to
3:07
two
3:07
of
3:07
my
3:08
panel
3:08
friends
3:09
from
3:09
the
3:09
Wheelhouse,
3:10
Kathy
3:10
Mone
3:11
and
3:11
Alicia
3:12
Monroe.
3:13
Michael
3:13
Pipe
3:13
is
3:13
unable
3:14
to
3:14
be
3:14
with
3:14
us
3:14
this
3:15
morning.
3:15
So,
3:15
Kathy
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and
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Alicia,
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good
3:17
morning.
3:17
Good
3:17
morning.
3:18
Good
3:19
morning,
3:19
Good
3:19
morning.
3:20
Good
3:21
to
3:21
see
3:21
you.
3:22
Is
3:23
everyone
3:23
well?
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Yeah.
3:26
Awesome.
3:27
Happy
3:28
end
3:28
of
3:28
the
3:28
weekend
3:29
and
3:29
happy
3:29
beginning
3:30
of
3:30
the
3:30
work
3:30
week.
3:30
Right?
3:31
Happy
3:32
Monday.
3:33
Happy
3:33
Monday.
3:34
Even
3:34
Though
3:34
this
3:34
will
3:35
drop
3:35
on
3:35
Tuesday,
3:35
we're
3:36
recording
3:36
it
3:36
on
3:36
a
3:37
Monday
3:37
morning.
3:38
So.
3:38
Yes.
3:39
Good
3:39
morning.
3:39
So
3:41
really
3:41
excited.
3:42
Michael
3:43
connected
3:44
me
3:45
to
3:45
our
3:46
guest
3:46
a
3:47
couple
3:47
weeks
3:47
ago
3:48
and
3:48
I
3:49
love
3:49
him
3:50
and
3:50
I
3:50
hope
3:50
that
3:51
he
3:52
also
3:52
obviously
3:53
he
3:53
was
3:53
a
3:53
little
3:53
bit
3:54
excited
3:54
because
3:54
he
3:55
agreed
3:55
to
3:55
join
3:56
us
3:56
here
3:56
in
3:56
the
3:56
Wheelhouse.
3:57
So
3:58
I'm
3:59
super
3:59
excited
3:59
to
3:59
welcome
4:00
Matt
4:01
Pinchonot
4:02
to
4:02
the
4:03
Wheelhouse.
4:03
He
4:03
is
4:04
an
4:04
educator
4:06
and
4:06
I'm
4:06
sure
4:06
he'll
4:07
tell
4:07
us
4:07
about
4:08
his
4:08
journey.
4:09
He's
4:09
also
4:10
been
4:10
in
4:10
a
4:10
couple
4:11
of
4:11
places,
4:12
A
4:12
notorious
4:13
DEI
4:14
administrator.
4:15
Right.
4:16
Where
4:16
those
4:17
letters
4:17
are,
4:18
are
4:18
so
4:18
interesting
4:19
in
4:19
2025.
4:20
We're
4:20
going
4:20
to
4:20
talk
4:20
about
4:20
that
4:20
too.
4:21
Right.
4:21
Everything
4:21
is,
4:22
everything
4:22
is
4:23
on
4:23
the
4:23
table.
4:24
So
4:24
first
4:24
and
4:25
foremost,
4:25
good
4:25
morning,
4:26
Matt.
4:26
Thank
4:27
you
4:27
so
4:27
much
4:28
for
4:28
joining
4:28
us
4:29
here
4:29
today
4:29
in
4:29
the
4:29
Wheelhouse.
4:30
Good
4:31
morning.
4:31
Thank
4:31
you
4:31
so
4:32
much
4:32
for
4:32
having
4:32
me.
4:32
I'm
4:33
excited
4:33
to
4:33
be
4:33
here.
4:34
This
4:35
is
4:35
a
4:35
fantastic
4:36
crew
4:36
and
4:36
I
4:36
can't
4:37
wait
4:37
to
4:37
just
4:37
talk
4:38
with
4:38
you
4:38
and
4:38
share
4:39
space
4:39
together.
4:40
I've
4:40
been
4:40
really
4:41
looking
4:41
forward
4:41
to
4:41
this.
4:42
And
4:43
we
4:43
have
4:43
as
4:43
well.
4:44
Right,
4:44
we
4:44
have
4:44
as
4:44
well.
4:45
So,
4:45
you
4:45
know,
4:46
your
4:46
journey
4:46
is
4:46
an
4:46
interesting
4:47
one
4:47
and
4:48
you
4:48
know,
4:48
share
4:48
what
4:48
you
4:49
want
4:49
to
4:49
with
4:50
our
4:50
listeners.
4:50
But
4:51
Matt
4:51
is.
4:52
Because
4:52
we're
4:52
going
4:52
to
4:53
talk
4:53
about
4:53
some
4:53
really
4:53
important
4:54
ideas
4:54
and
4:54
it's
4:55
really
4:55
important
4:55
for
4:55
you
4:56
to
4:56
know
4:56
that
4:57
Matt
4:57
is
4:58
one
4:58
of
4:58
us.
4:59
He
4:59
is
5:00
an
5:00
educator.
5:01
And
5:01
even
5:02
though
5:02
he's
5:02
not
5:02
currently
5:03
in
5:03
the
5:03
classroom,
5:04
he
5:04
is
5:05
still
5:05
first
5:05
and
5:06
foremost
5:06
an
5:07
educator.
5:08
He
5:08
knows
5:09
exactly
5:11
what
5:11
we
5:11
all
5:12
face
5:13
on
5:13
a
5:13
daily
5:14
basis.
5:14
So
5:14
Matt,
5:15
would
5:15
you
5:15
first
5:15
just,
5:16
you
5:16
know,
5:16
I
5:16
know
5:17
your
5:17
current
5:17
role
5:18
is
5:19
you're
5:19
an
5:19
administrator
5:21
for
5:22
a
5:22
statewide
5:22
organization
5:23
focusing
5:24
on
5:25
diversity,
5:25
equity,
5:26
inclusion.
5:26
So
5:27
thank
5:27
you
5:27
for
5:27
that
5:27
work.
5:28
Cause
5:28
that
5:28
work,
5:28
regardless
5:29
of
5:29
what
5:29
anybody
5:29
else
5:30
says
5:30
in
5:30
2025,
5:31
that
5:31
is
5:31
some
5:32
of
5:32
the
5:32
most
5:32
important
5:32
work
5:32
that
5:33
we
5:33
do.
5:34
Yeah.
5:34
So
5:35
how
5:35
did
5:35
you
5:35
go
5:36
from
5:37
being
5:38
a
5:38
student
5:39
to
5:39
a
5:39
teacher
5:40
to
5:40
someone
5:41
who
5:41
works
5:42
every
5:42
single
5:43
day
5:43
in
5:44
this
5:44
field
5:45
of
5:45
diversity,
5:46
equity
5:46
and
5:46
inclusion?
5:47
Well,
5:48
thanks,
5:48
Grant.
5:49
I
5:49
think
5:50
to
5:51
really
5:52
dive
5:52
into
5:52
things
5:53
and
5:53
provide
5:53
as
5:53
clear
5:54
of
5:54
a
5:54
picture
5:54
as
5:54
possible,
5:55
I
5:55
want
5:56
to
5:56
actually
5:56
take
5:56
a
5:57
step
5:57
back
5:57
before
5:58
I
5:58
even
5:59
became
5:59
a
5:59
teacher,
5:59
before
6:00
I
6:00
even
6:00
was
6:01
a
6:01
student,
6:02
because
6:02
I'm
6:03
one
6:03
of
6:03
like
6:04
many
6:04
of
6:04
you,
6:04
I
6:04
would
6:04
imagine,
6:05
a
6:06
multi
6:06
generation
6:07
teacher.
6:08
So
6:08
my
6:08
father
6:08
before
6:09
me
6:09
was
6:09
a
6:09
teacher,
6:10
both
6:11
in
6:11
Haiti
6:11
and
6:11
then
6:12
later
6:12
ON
6:12
in
6:12
the
6:12
U.S.
6:13
i'm
6:13
the
6:13
child
6:14
of
6:14
two
6:15
Haitian
6:15
immigrants.
6:16
And
6:16
so
6:17
that's
6:17
an
6:17
important
6:17
part
6:18
of
6:18
my
6:18
story
6:18
and
6:18
I'm
6:18
going
6:18
to
6:19
circle
6:19
back
6:19
to
6:19
that
6:20
later
6:20
when
6:20
I
6:20
get
6:20
into
6:21
some
6:21
of
6:21
the
6:21
DEI
6:21
work.
6:22
But
6:22
that
6:22
was
6:23
the
6:23
initial
6:23
framework
6:23
and
6:23
I
6:24
got
6:24
to
6:24
witness
6:25
firsthand
6:26
the
6:27
Love
6:27
that
6:27
my
6:27
father
6:28
bore
6:28
for
6:28
his
6:29
students.
6:30
They
6:30
weren't
6:31
numbers
6:31
to
6:31
him.
6:32
They
6:32
weren't
6:32
just
6:33
a
6:33
roster.
6:33
They
6:34
were
6:34
human
6:34
beings
6:34
that
6:35
deserved
6:35
dignity,
6:36
that
6:36
deserved
6:36
his
6:37
utmost
6:37
care
6:38
and
6:39
every
6:39
bit
6:40
of
6:40
effort
6:40
that
6:40
he
6:40
could
6:41
to
6:41
provide
6:41
them
6:42
as
6:42
immaculate
6:42
experience
6:43
as
6:43
he
6:43
could.
6:43
And
6:44
so
6:44
by
6:44
eighth
6:45
grade,
6:45
I
6:45
knew
6:45
that
6:45
that
6:45
was
6:46
where
6:46
I
6:46
wanted
6:46
to
6:46
go.
6:46
And
6:47
also,
6:48
like
6:48
many
6:48
of
6:48
you,
6:48
I
6:48
was
6:49
inspired
6:49
as
6:49
well
6:50
by
6:50
teachers
6:51
I
6:51
had.
6:52
I
6:52
was
6:53
fortunate.
6:53
I'll
6:53
give
6:53
a
6:54
shout
6:54
out
6:54
to
6:54
my
6:55
social
6:55
studies
6:56
teacher.
6:56
I'm
6:57
in
6:57
eighth
6:57
grade,
6:57
you
6:57
know
6:57
who
6:58
you
6:58
are.
6:58
And
6:59
he
6:59
was
6:59
someone
6:59
who
7:00
I
7:00
saw
7:00
very,
7:01
very
7:01
similar
7:01
to
7:02
my
7:02
dad,
7:02
where
7:03
he
7:03
reflected
7:04
care
7:04
for
7:05
us
7:05
as
7:05
human
7:06
beings
7:06
and
7:07
was
7:07
also
7:07
someone
7:07
who
7:08
was
7:08
a
7:08
master
7:08
of
7:08
his
7:08
craft.
7:09
And
7:09
so
7:10
he
7:11
affirmed
7:11
my
7:11
love
7:12
for
7:12
learning
7:12
the
7:12
history
7:13
and
7:13
the
7:13
stories
7:14
really
7:14
of
7:15
others
7:15
around
7:15
the
7:15
world.
7:16
And
7:16
so
7:16
what
7:16
this
7:16
led
7:17
to
7:17
was
7:17
by
7:18
the
7:18
time
7:18
I
7:18
was
7:19
a
7:19
senior
7:19
in
7:19
high
7:19
school,
7:20
I
7:20
was
7:20
inspired
7:20
by
7:20
yet
7:21
another
7:21
teacher.
7:22
This
7:22
time
7:22
it
7:22
was
7:23
a
7:23
Spanish
7:23
teacher.
7:23
And
7:24
I
7:24
was
7:24
actually
7:25
a
7:25
French
7:25
student.
7:26
But
7:27
she
7:27
had
7:27
approached
7:28
me
7:28
and
7:28
she
7:28
was
7:29
like,
7:29
hey,
7:29
we
7:30
have
7:30
this
7:30
teaching
7:30
internship
7:31
program.
7:31
She
7:31
had
7:32
taught
7:32
my
7:32
older
7:33
sister.
7:33
And
7:34
she
7:34
was
7:34
like,
7:35
you
7:35
know,
7:35
it's
7:35
teaching
7:36
world
7:36
languages
7:37
and
7:37
we
7:37
would
7:37
love
7:38
to
7:38
have
7:38
you
7:38
be
7:38
someone
7:38
who's
7:39
a
7:39
part
7:39
of
7:39
this
7:39
program.
7:40
You'll
7:40
get
7:41
to
7:41
pair
7:41
with
7:41
elementary
7:42
students
7:42
and
7:43
teach
7:43
them
7:43
about,
7:44
in
7:44
my
7:44
case,
7:45
French.
7:47
And
7:47
it
7:47
was
7:47
a
7:47
bit
7:47
of
7:48
a
7:48
full
7:48
circle
7:49
moment.
7:49
I
7:49
actually
7:50
end
7:50
up
7:50
in
7:50
the
7:51
classroom
7:51
of
7:51
my
7:51
old
7:52
4th
7:52
grade
7:52
teacher
7:53
and
7:54
got
7:54
to
7:54
teach
7:54
students
7:55
French.
7:56
And
7:57
my
7:57
mind
7:57
was
7:57
blown
7:58
at
7:59
how
7:59
quickly
7:59
students
8:00
were
8:00
able
8:00
to
8:01
learn.
8:02
They
8:02
were
8:02
able
8:02
to
8:03
read.
8:03
It
8:03
was
8:03
a
8:03
small
8:04
book.
8:04
I
8:04
wrote
8:04
a
8:04
children's
8:05
book
8:05
in
8:05
French
8:05
for
8:05
them,
8:06
but
8:06
they
8:06
were
8:06
able
8:06
to
8:06
read
8:07
it
8:07
and
8:07
understand
8:07
it.
8:08
They
8:08
were
8:08
able
8:08
to
8:08
have
8:09
dialogue
8:09
in
8:10
French.
8:10
And
8:10
that
8:10
was
8:10
something
8:10
that
8:11
really
8:11
just
8:11
blew
8:12
my
8:12
mind
8:12
to
8:12
how
8:12
exciting
8:13
and
8:13
wonderful
8:14
this
8:14
field
8:14
is.
8:14
And
8:15
so
8:15
I
8:15
started
8:16
that
8:16
program
8:16
when
8:17
I
8:17
was
8:17
16.
8:17
And
8:18
so
8:18
really
8:18
from
8:19
16,
8:19
that
8:19
was
8:19
when
8:19
I
8:19
first
8:20
got
8:20
the
8:20
taste
8:21
of
8:21
teaching.
8:22
And
8:23
I've
8:23
been
8:23
fortunate
8:24
to
8:24
be
8:24
able
8:24
to
8:25
even
8:25
work
8:25
abroad.
8:26
I
8:26
was
8:27
able
8:27
to
8:27
teach
8:27
in
8:27
Paris.
8:29
And
8:29
so
8:30
that
8:30
was
8:30
also
8:31
a
8:31
unique
8:31
experience
8:31
experience
8:32
because
8:32
I
8:32
was
8:32
able
8:32
to
8:32
see
8:33
how
8:33
education
8:34
works
8:34
in
8:34
a
8:35
different
8:35
country.
8:36
And
8:36
I
8:36
was
8:36
able
8:36
to
8:37
bring
8:37
that
8:37
experience
8:38
back
8:38
with
8:38
me
8:39
when
8:39
I
8:39
began
8:40
my
8:40
career
8:40
here
8:41
in
8:41
earnest.
8:41
And
8:41
I've
8:42
worked,
8:42
taught
8:43
everything
8:43
at
8:44
the
8:44
high
8:44
school
8:44
level
8:45
and
8:45
a
8:46
DI
8:46
capacity.
8:46
I've
8:46
worked
8:47
K
8:47
through
8:47
12.
8:48
And
8:48
so
8:49
actually,
8:49
and
8:49
I've
8:49
also
8:50
been
8:50
an
8:50
adjunct
8:51
professor,
8:51
so
8:52
I've
8:52
really
8:52
been
8:52
able
8:52
to
8:53
experience
8:54
the
8:54
full
8:54
range
8:55
of
8:55
education
8:56
pretty
8:57
much
8:57
from
8:57
birth
8:57
until
8:58
grad
8:58
school.
8:59
And
8:59
so
8:59
that's
8:59
been
9:00
really,
9:00
really
9:01
exciting
9:01
for
9:01
me.
9:02
And
9:02
the
9:03
thing
9:03
that
9:03
has
9:03
been
9:03
consistent,
9:04
whether
9:04
I'm
9:04
teaching
9:05
in
9:05
the
9:05
US
9:06
in
9:06
France,
9:07
in
9:07
a
9:07
kindergarten
9:08
classroom
9:08
or
9:09
in
9:09
a
9:09
grad
9:09
classroom,
9:10
preparing
9:11
folks
9:11
to
9:11
become
9:11
teachers
9:12
themselves,
9:13
the
9:14
love
9:14
of
9:15
learning
9:16
and
9:16
the
9:16
love
9:17
of
9:17
inspiring
9:18
others
9:18
and
9:18
the
9:18
love
9:19
of
9:19
community,
9:20
the
9:20
love
9:21
of
9:21
our
9:22
intrinsic
9:22
value
9:23
has
9:23
been
9:23
present
9:23
in
9:24
each
9:24
one
9:24
of
9:24
those
9:24
spaces.
9:25
And
9:25
that's
9:25
something
9:25
that
9:26
truly
9:26
I
9:26
couldn't
9:26
get
9:27
enough
9:27
of.
9:29
So
9:29
a
9:29
couple
9:29
of.
9:30
First,
9:31
I
9:31
want
9:31
to
9:31
thank
9:31
your
9:32
father,
9:32
who
9:32
I'm
9:32
sure
9:33
I'll
9:33
never
9:33
meet,
9:33
but
9:34
I
9:34
want
9:34
to
9:34
thank
9:34
your
9:34
father
9:35
for
9:35
being
9:35
such
9:35
a
9:36
tremendous
9:36
inspiration
9:37
to
9:37
you.
9:37
Because,
9:38
because
9:38
of
9:38
him.
9:39
Obviously
9:40
he
9:40
did
9:40
great
9:40
things
9:41
for
9:41
a
9:41
lot
9:41
of
9:41
students,
9:42
but
9:42
that
9:42
carried
9:43
on.
9:43
So
9:43
there
9:43
were
9:43
a
9:44
lot
9:44
of
9:44
other
9:44
students
9:44
that
9:44
benefited
9:46
by
9:46
your
9:46
father's
9:47
example
9:47
that
9:47
he
9:48
never,
9:48
that
9:48
he
9:48
never
9:49
interacted
9:49
with.
9:50
And
9:50
I
9:50
taught
9:50
in
9:51
France
9:51
as
9:51
well.
9:51
So
9:51
sometime
9:52
we're
9:52
going
9:52
to
9:52
have
9:52
to
9:52
talk
9:52
about
9:52
that.
9:54
Yeah.
9:54
Yeah,
9:55
that's
9:55
cool.
9:56
So
9:56
how
9:56
did
9:57
you
9:58
in
9:58
the
9:59
world
10:00
officially
10:00
as
10:01
a
10:01
job
10:02
title,
10:02
how
10:03
did
10:03
you
10:03
land
10:03
in
10:03
the
10:04
world
10:04
of
10:04
diversity,
10:05
equity
10:05
and
10:05
inclusion?
10:07
So
10:08
for
10:08
that
10:08
I
10:08
have
10:08
to
10:09
really
10:09
attribute
10:11
my
10:11
friends
10:11
and
10:12
family.
10:14
The
10:14
work
10:15
of
10:15
diversity,
10:16
equity,
10:16
inclusion
10:16
is
10:17
work
10:17
that
10:17
I
10:18
believe
10:18
to
10:18
be
10:18
intrinsically
10:19
tied
10:19
to
10:19
the
10:19
work
10:20
of
10:20
caring
10:20
and
10:21
love
10:22
of
10:22
students
10:22
in
10:22
a
10:22
classroom.
10:24
I
10:24
think
10:24
that
10:25
in
10:25
recognizing
10:26
students
10:26
dignity
10:27
and
10:27
recognizing
10:29
the,
10:30
the
10:31
right,
10:32
I'm
10:32
going
10:32
to
10:32
use
10:32
that
10:32
word
10:33
of
10:33
all
10:33
students
10:34
to
10:34
be
10:34
able
10:34
to
10:34
learn
10:34
in
10:34
a
10:35
safe
10:35
environment,
10:36
to
10:36
be
10:36
able
10:36
to
10:36
learn
10:37
in
10:37
the
10:37
least
10:37
restrictive
10:38
environment,
10:38
to
10:38
be
10:38
able
10:38
to
10:39
have
10:39
access
10:40
equitably
10:41
to
10:41
the
10:41
resources
10:42
of
10:42
not
10:42
just
10:42
their
10:42
school,
10:43
but
10:43
their
10:43
community
10:43
at
10:44
large.
10:44
Those
10:44
were
10:45
all
10:45
principles
10:45
that
10:45
had
10:46
been
10:46
ingrained
10:46
in
10:46
me.
10:47
And
10:48
so
10:48
I've
10:48
been
10:49
really
10:49
engaged
10:49
in
10:49
this
10:50
work
10:50
and
10:51
just
10:51
as
10:52
a,
10:52
as
10:52
a
10:52
teacher
10:53
initially,
10:54
and
10:55
it
10:55
was
10:55
around
10:56
2020
10:57
when
11:00
schools
11:01
shut
11:01
down
11:02
and
11:03
Ahmaud
11:04
Arbery
11:04
was
11:04
killed
11:05
and
11:05
George
11:05
Floyd
11:06
was
11:06
killed.
11:06
And
11:06
I
11:06
ended
11:06
up
11:07
writing
11:07
a
11:07
letter
11:07
to
11:07
my
11:07
students
11:09
and
11:09
just
11:09
sharing
11:12
the
11:12
way
11:12
that
11:13
this
11:13
impacted
11:13
me
11:13
as
11:14
a
11:14
person,
11:14
the
11:14
way
11:14
that
11:15
we
11:15
can
11:15
think
11:15
about
11:15
it.
11:16
I
11:16
was
11:16
fortunate
11:16
to
11:16
be
11:17
teaching
11:17
US
11:17
history.
11:17
So
11:18
it
11:18
also,
11:18
and
11:19
in
11:19
many
11:20
ways
11:20
was
11:20
aligned
11:20
anyways
11:21
with
11:21
our
11:21
curriculum
11:21
and
11:22
standards,
11:22
but
11:22
also
11:22
thinking
11:23
about
11:23
how
11:24
do
11:24
we
11:24
see
11:24
what's
11:25
happening
11:25
around
11:25
us?
11:26
How
11:26
does
11:26
this
11:26
relate
11:26
to
11:26
the
11:26
things
11:26
that
11:27
we've
11:27
learned
11:27
in
11:27
the
11:27
past?
11:28
And
11:28
what
11:28
can
11:29
this
11:29
tell
11:29
us
11:29
about
11:29
where
11:30
America
11:30
can
11:30
go
11:30
and
11:31
how
11:31
you
11:32
as
11:32
students
11:32
shape
11:33
the
11:33
America
11:33
you
11:33
want
11:34
to
11:34
see?
11:35
And
11:35
so
11:36
really
11:36
engaged
11:37
in
11:37
that.
11:37
And
11:38
then
11:38
that
11:38
drew
11:39
to
11:39
the
11:39
following
11:40
year
11:40
where
11:40
students
11:41
wanted
11:41
to
11:41
organize
11:42
an
11:42
anti
11:42
hate
11:43
rally
11:43
at
11:43
the
11:44
school.
11:44
And
11:45
so
11:45
I
11:45
was
11:45
one
11:46
of
11:46
the
11:46
Teacher
11:46
leaders
11:47
who
11:47
supported
11:48
their
11:48
work
11:48
and
11:49
helped
11:49
them
11:49
plan
11:49
the
11:50
event,
11:50
review
11:51
their
11:51
speeches,
11:52
and
11:52
do
11:52
some
11:52
of
11:52
the
11:53
coordination.
11:54
And
11:55
following
11:55
that,
11:55
the
11:55
district
11:56
I
11:56
was
11:56
working
11:56
in
11:57
ended
11:57
up
11:58
hosting
11:58
a
11:59
position
11:59
for
11:59
a
11:59
director
12:00
of
12:00
Diversity
12:00
Equity
12:01
Inclusion.
12:02
And
12:03
I
12:04
had
12:04
friends
12:04
telling
12:04
me,
12:05
oh,
12:05
my
12:05
gosh,
12:05
Matt,
12:06
you
12:06
have
12:06
to
12:06
apply
12:06
for
12:06
this
12:07
position.
12:07
And
12:08
what
12:08
I
12:08
said
12:09
is
12:09
probably
12:10
not
12:10
exactly
12:11
what
12:11
you're
12:11
thinking.
12:11
I
12:11
was
12:12
like,
12:12
absolutely
12:13
not.
12:13
I
12:14
love
12:14
being
12:14
a
12:14
teacher.
12:15
I
12:15
love
12:15
teaching
12:15
history,
12:17
and
12:17
I
12:17
don't
12:18
want
12:18
to
12:18
lose
12:18
this
12:18
connection
12:19
from
12:20
kids.
12:20
And
12:21
so
12:21
I
12:21
went
12:22
home
12:22
and
12:22
I
12:23
told
12:23
my
12:23
family.
12:23
I
12:23
was
12:23
like,
12:24
this
12:24
is
12:24
so
12:24
ridiculous.
12:25
Like,
12:25
guess
12:26
what,
12:26
Guess
12:26
what?
12:26
Like
12:26
my
12:27
friends
12:27
were
12:27
saying
12:27
at
12:27
work,
12:28
and
12:28
they
12:28
were
12:28
like,
12:29
matt,
12:29
that
12:29
is
12:30
literally
12:30
the
12:30
work
12:30
that
12:30
you
12:31
do
12:31
every
12:31
day.
12:32
This.
12:33
They
12:33
read
12:33
the
12:34
job
12:34
description.
12:34
They're
12:34
like,
12:35
that's
12:35
you.
12:35
That
12:36
you
12:36
as
12:36
a
12:36
person,
12:37
that
12:37
you
12:37
as
12:37
an
12:37
educator.
12:38
This
12:38
is
12:38
what
12:39
you
12:39
believe
12:39
in.
12:39
You
12:40
love
12:40
the
12:40
community
12:40
that
12:41
you're
12:41
working
12:41
in.
12:42
And
12:42
so
12:43
how
12:43
do
12:43
we.
12:43
Now,
12:43
this
12:44
is.
12:44
This
12:44
is
12:44
a
12:44
chance
12:44
for
12:45
you
12:45
to
12:45
be
12:45
able
12:45
to
12:45
effectively
12:45
change
12:46
on
12:46
a
12:46
larger
12:46
scale.
12:47
And
12:48
I
12:49
remember
12:50
at
12:50
one
12:50
point
12:51
during
12:52
it
12:52
was
12:52
a
12:52
long,
12:53
rigorous
12:53
process,
12:53
and
12:54
something
12:54
that
12:54
actually
12:54
made
12:55
me
12:55
feel
12:55
like
12:56
I
12:56
was
12:56
making
12:56
the
12:56
right
12:56
decision
12:57
was
12:57
how
12:57
much
12:58
care
12:58
the
12:58
district
12:58
put
12:59
into
12:59
the
12:59
process.
13:00
So
13:01
on
13:01
the
13:01
interview
13:01
committee,
13:02
you
13:02
know,
13:02
the
13:02
first
13:02
round
13:03
I
13:03
walk
13:03
in
13:04
after
13:04
there
13:04
was.
13:04
Well,
13:05
there
13:05
was
13:05
a
13:05
video
13:05
entry
13:05
first,
13:06
and
13:06
then
13:06
there
13:06
was
13:07
multiple
13:07
rounds
13:08
with
13:08
a
13:08
lot
13:08
of
13:08
people.
13:09
And
13:09
there
13:09
were
13:09
over
13:09
20
13:10
people
13:10
in
13:10
the
13:10
room.
13:11
And
13:11
I
13:11
saw
13:11
representatives
13:12
across
13:13
every
13:13
single
13:13
one
13:14
of
13:14
the
13:14
seven
13:15
school
13:15
buildings
13:16
in
13:16
the
13:16
district.
13:17
There
13:17
were
13:17
parents
13:17
and
13:18
community
13:18
members
13:18
there.
13:19
It
13:19
was
13:20
across
13:20
different
13:20
job
13:21
titles
13:21
in
13:21
the
13:22
district.
13:22
And
13:23
that
13:23
really
13:23
made
13:23
me
13:23
believe
13:24
that
13:24
this
13:24
is
13:25
not
13:25
a
13:25
token
13:25
position.
13:26
This
13:26
is
13:26
something
13:26
where
13:27
folks
13:27
really
13:28
want
13:28
to
13:28
make
13:28
sure
13:29
that
13:29
the
13:29
district
13:29
as
13:30
a
13:30
whole
13:30
is
13:31
going
13:31
to
13:31
move
13:31
forward.
13:32
Naturally,
13:33
I
13:33
didn't
13:33
think
13:33
I
13:33
was
13:34
going
13:34
to
13:34
get
13:34
the
13:34
role,
13:35
but
13:35
when
13:35
I
13:35
was
13:36
offered
13:36
the
13:36
position,
13:36
one
13:37
of
13:37
the
13:37
questions
13:37
that
13:37
stood
13:38
out
13:38
to
13:38
me
13:38
from
13:39
the
13:39
superintendent
13:40
was,
13:41
if
13:41
we
13:41
think
13:42
about
13:42
things
13:42
kind
13:42
of
13:42
in
13:43
different
13:43
groups,
13:44
and
13:45
this
13:45
position
13:45
is
13:45
going
13:45
to
13:45
impact
13:46
a
13:46
lot
13:46
of
13:46
different
13:46
folks,
13:47
what's
13:47
your
13:47
top
13:47
priority?
13:48
And
13:49
I
13:49
had,
13:49
in
13:50
my
13:50
head,
13:50
looked
13:50
at
13:50
it
13:50
as
13:51
students.
13:52
There's
13:52
teachers
13:53
and
13:54
administrators,
13:54
and
13:54
there's
13:55
the
13:55
broader
13:55
community
13:56
as
13:56
a
13:56
whole.
13:57
And
13:58
something
13:58
that
13:58
I
13:58
held
13:59
to
13:59
and
13:59
that
13:59
I
13:59
still
14:00
firmly
14:00
believe
14:00
in
14:00
was
14:01
that
14:01
top
14:01
group
14:02
was.
14:02
Was
14:02
supporting
14:03
students,
14:03
making
14:03
sure
14:04
that
14:04
their
14:04
voices
14:04
were
14:05
heard,
14:05
that
14:05
they
14:06
saw
14:06
themselves
14:06
reflected
14:07
throughout
14:07
our
14:08
buildings,
14:08
that
14:08
they
14:08
were
14:09
able
14:09
to
14:10
feel
14:11
safe
14:12
at
14:12
school,
14:12
to
14:12
learn.
14:13
And
14:13
obviously,
14:14
that's
14:14
including
14:14
psychological
14:15
safety.
14:16
And
14:16
teachers
14:16
were
14:17
a
14:17
group
14:17
where
14:18
I
14:18
end
14:18
up
14:18
tracking,
14:19
too,
14:19
and
14:19
making
14:19
sure
14:19
I
14:19
spent
14:20
time
14:20
directly
14:20
supporting
14:21
folks
14:22
who
14:22
want
14:22
to
14:22
do
14:23
the
14:23
good
14:23
work,
14:24
giving
14:24
them
14:24
tools
14:24
and
14:25
also
14:25
direct
14:25
support
14:26
in
14:26
their
14:26
classrooms.
14:26
And
14:27
so
14:28
that
14:28
was
14:28
really
14:29
how
14:29
I
14:29
ended
14:29
up
14:29
making
14:30
that
14:30
jump.
14:31
And
14:32
what
14:32
I
14:32
loved
14:33
was
14:33
being
14:34
empowered
14:34
to
14:35
really
14:35
do
14:35
direct
14:35
work
14:36
in
14:36
all
14:36
seven
14:36
schools
14:37
and
14:37
really
14:38
be
14:38
able
14:38
to
14:38
do
14:38
direct
14:38
work
14:39
in
14:39
the
14:39
community.
14:40
Holding
14:40
community
14:40
listening
14:41
hours
14:42
in
14:42
the
14:42
evenings
14:43
at
14:43
the
14:44
local
14:44
library,
14:45
being
14:45
able
14:46
to
14:46
have
14:47
a
14:47
DEI
14:48
committee
14:48
comprised
14:49
of
14:49
folks
14:49
across
14:50
the
14:50
different
14:50
buildings
14:50
and
14:51
community.
14:51
And
14:51
so
14:52
I
14:52
felt
14:52
that
14:52
that
14:53
was.
14:53
And
14:54
I
14:54
don't
14:54
want
14:54
to
14:54
jump
14:54
too
14:54
far
14:55
ahead,
14:55
but
14:55
that
14:55
was
14:55
kind
14:56
of
14:56
how
14:56
I
14:56
made
14:56
that
14:57
bridge
14:57
and
14:57
was
14:58
fortunate
14:58
to
14:58
be
14:58
able
14:59
to
14:59
really
14:59
form
14:59
what
15:00
that
15:00
position
15:00
could
15:00
look
15:01
like.
15:02
So
15:03
I
15:03
want
15:03
to
15:03
Fast
15:03
forward
15:04
to
15:04
2025.
15:06
Yes.
15:06
Where
15:08
the
15:08
mention
15:08
of
15:08
the
15:08
word
15:10
DE,
15:10
the
15:11
letters
15:11
D,
15:11
E,
15:11
I,
15:12
or
15:12
the
15:12
words
15:14
either
15:14
one
15:14
are
15:15
often
15:15
seen
15:16
by
15:17
certain
15:17
people,
15:18
not
15:19
everyone,
15:19
but
15:19
by
15:19
certain
15:20
people,
15:20
as
15:21
being
15:21
incredibly
15:22
negative,
15:23
as
15:24
something
15:24
to
15:24
eradicate.
15:26
And
15:26
of
15:26
course,
15:27
we
15:27
here
15:27
at
15:27
the
15:27
wheelhouse
15:28
believe
15:29
the
15:29
exact
15:29
opposite.
15:31
We
15:31
believe
15:31
that
15:32
dignity
15:32
is
15:32
a
15:32
birthright
15:33
and
15:33
that
15:34
a
15:34
commitment
15:35
to
15:35
diversity,
15:35
equity,
15:36
inclusion
15:36
is
15:37
fundamental
15:38
to
15:39
who
15:39
we
15:39
are
15:39
as
15:40
humans
15:40
and
15:41
to
15:41
who
15:41
we
15:41
are
15:41
as
15:41
educators.
15:42
Why?
15:44
How
15:44
do
15:44
we
15:44
talk
15:45
about
15:46
diversity,
15:46
equity
15:47
and
15:47
inclusion
15:48
in
15:48
2025?
15:49
So
15:50
I
15:50
love
15:50
that
15:50
question
15:52
because
15:52
one
15:53
of
15:53
the
15:53
first
15:53
things
15:53
that
15:54
I
15:54
think
15:54
it's
15:55
exactly
15:55
what
15:55
you
15:56
said,
15:56
using
15:57
the
15:57
words
15:57
diversity,
15:58
equity
15:58
and
15:58
inclusion.
15:59
Now
16:00
it's
16:00
very
16:00
easy
16:01
to
16:02
try
16:03
to
16:03
scapegoat
16:03
an
16:04
acronym.
16:05
And
16:05
an
16:05
acronym
16:06
can
16:07
feel
16:07
like
16:07
this
16:07
amorphous
16:08
thing.
16:08
We're
16:08
not
16:09
really
16:09
sure
16:10
what
16:10
it
16:10
means.
16:10
But
16:10
I
16:11
think
16:11
when
16:11
we
16:11
look
16:11
at
16:12
the
16:12
actual
16:12
core
16:12
tenets
16:13
of
16:13
each
16:13
of
16:13
these
16:13
words
16:14
and
16:15
we
16:15
look
16:15
at
16:15
diversity
16:16
and
16:16
we
16:16
think
16:16
about
16:17
it
16:17
from
16:17
the
16:17
lens
16:17
of
16:18
okay
16:19
in
16:20
our
16:20
own
16:21
communities,
16:22
and
16:22
whether
16:22
that's
16:23
our
16:23
local
16:23
community,
16:23
our
16:24
school
16:24
community,
16:25
when
16:25
we
16:25
think
16:25
about
16:25
it
16:26
in
16:26
terms
16:26
of
16:26
our
16:26
workplaces,
16:27
when
16:27
we
16:27
think
16:27
about
16:27
it
16:27
in
16:28
terms
16:28
of
16:28
our
16:28
nation
16:29
itself,
16:30
regardless,
16:30
even
16:31
of
16:31
where
16:31
folks
16:31
fall
16:31
on
16:32
an
16:32
ideological
16:33
spectrum,
16:33
we
16:34
have
16:34
diversity.
16:34
In
16:35
terms
16:35
of
16:35
ages,
16:36
people
16:36
think
16:37
diversity
16:37
and
16:37
they
16:38
go
16:38
simply
16:38
to
16:38
race
16:39
and
16:39
gender.
16:39
And
16:40
those
16:40
are
16:40
absolutely
16:41
essential
16:41
tenets
16:41
of
16:42
diversity,
16:43
but
16:43
they
16:43
are
16:43
not
16:43
the
16:44
entire
16:44
pantheon
16:44
of
16:45
it.
16:45
Folks
16:46
value
16:46
veterans
16:47
in
16:47
their
16:47
community.
16:47
That's
16:48
a
16:48
diverse
16:49
group
16:49
of
16:49
individuals.
16:50
Folks
16:51
respect
16:51
their
16:51
elders.
16:51
Again,
16:52
going
16:52
to
16:52
age,
16:53
that
16:53
is
16:53
a
16:53
diverse
16:54
group
16:54
of
16:54
people.
16:54
Folks
16:55
care
16:55
about
16:55
our
16:55
children.
16:56
That's
16:56
a
16:56
diverse
16:56
group
16:57
of
16:57
people.
16:57
When
16:57
we
16:58
think
16:58
about
16:58
diversity,
16:59
there
16:59
is
17:00
no
17:00
taboo
17:01
that
17:01
should
17:01
exist
17:01
therein.
17:02
We
17:03
as
17:03
a
17:03
community,
17:03
all
17:04
believe
17:04
in
17:04
the
17:04
success
17:05
of
17:05
others
17:05
in
17:05
our
17:05
community.
17:06
In
17:07
fact,
17:07
if
17:07
we
17:07
boil
17:07
it
17:08
down
17:08
to
17:08
diversity,
17:09
is
17:09
anyone
17:10
beyond
17:10
yourself?
17:10
Because
17:11
that
17:11
presents
17:11
a
17:11
diverse
17:12
point
17:12
of
17:12
view,
17:12
a
17:13
diverse
17:13
set
17:13
of
17:13
lived
17:14
experiences.
17:15
There's
17:15
no
17:15
reason
17:15
for
17:16
us
17:16
to
17:16
think
17:16
that
17:16
diversity
17:17
would
17:17
be
17:17
anything
17:18
but
17:18
an
17:18
asset
17:19
to
17:19
us.
17:19
I
17:20
just
17:20
want
17:20
to.
17:20
I
17:20
want
17:20
you
17:20
to
17:21
say
17:21
that
17:21
again.
17:21
Anyone
17:22
but
17:22
yourself.
17:22
Can
17:22
you
17:23
just
17:23
say
17:23
that
17:23
again?
17:24
Absolutely.
17:25
Anyone
17:25
excluding
17:26
yourself.
17:27
That
17:27
is
17:27
a
17:27
diverse
17:28
population.
17:29
And
17:30
so
17:30
it
17:30
is
17:30
so
17:31
important
17:31
for
17:31
us
17:32
to
17:32
think
17:32
about
17:33
the
17:34
fact
17:34
that
17:34
diversity
17:35
is
17:35
absolutely
17:36
an
17:36
asset
17:37
if
17:37
we
17:37
take
17:37
our
17:37
own
17:38
skill
17:38
sets.
17:39
I
17:39
have
17:40
a
17:40
lot
17:40
of
17:40
things
17:40
that
17:40
I
17:41
enjoy
17:41
doing
17:42
and
17:42
even
17:42
a
17:42
few
17:42
things
17:43
that
17:43
I
17:43
can
17:43
do
17:43
well.
17:44
But
17:44
if
17:44
someone
17:45
needed
17:45
me
17:45
to
17:45
rewire
17:45
their
17:46
house,
17:46
it's
17:46
not
17:46
happening,
17:47
not
17:47
safely,
17:47
at
17:48
least.
17:48
And
17:49
so,
17:49
of
17:49
course
17:50
we
17:50
need
17:50
folks
17:50
who
17:50
have
17:51
different
17:51
skill
17:51
sets.
17:52
Of
17:52
course
17:52
we
17:53
need
17:53
folks
17:53
who
17:53
have
17:53
different
17:53
experiences.
17:54
If
17:55
my
17:55
only
17:55
perspective
17:55
is
17:56
that
17:56
of
17:56
a
17:56
Haitian
17:56
immigrant,
17:57
then
17:57
I'm
17:58
going
17:58
to
17:58
miss
17:58
the
17:59
perspective
17:59
of
17:59
so
18:00
many
18:00
other
18:00
people
18:00
and
18:01
miss
18:01
the
18:01
ability
18:01
to
18:01
connect,
18:02
see
18:02
the
18:03
common
18:03
threads
18:03
that
18:04
we
18:04
have,
18:04
and
18:04
also
18:05
see
18:05
how
18:05
do
18:05
we
18:05
build
18:06
together
18:06
in
18:07
a
18:07
way
18:07
that's
18:07
going
18:07
to
18:08
be
18:08
more.
18:08
I'm
18:08
bridging
18:08
to
18:09
the
18:09
next
18:09
word,
18:09
inclusive,
18:10
because
18:10
it's
18:11
one
18:11
thing
18:11
to
18:11
get
18:11
invited
18:12
to
18:12
the
18:12
party,
18:12
right?
18:12
It's
18:12
one
18:13
thing
18:13
to
18:13
say,
18:13
hey,
18:14
I
18:14
guess
18:14
you
18:14
can
18:14
come.
18:15
Like
18:15
when
18:15
friends
18:15
ask
18:16
if
18:16
you
18:16
want
18:16
to
18:16
hang
18:17
out
18:17
or,
18:17
you
18:17
know,
18:18
can
18:18
I
18:18
come?
18:18
If
18:19
you'd
18:19
like
18:19
to.
18:20
If
18:20
you'd
18:20
like
18:20
to
18:20
isn't
18:21
really
18:21
a
18:22
nice
18:22
invitation.
18:23
Inclusion
18:24
is
18:24
making
18:24
sure
18:24
that
18:25
folks
18:25
actually
18:26
have
18:26
space
18:26
that's
18:27
carved
18:27
out,
18:28
that
18:28
is.
18:28
That
18:29
is
18:29
theirs,
18:29
that
18:30
they
18:30
have
18:30
agency
18:31
in
18:31
that
18:32
space.
18:32
Inclusion
18:33
is
18:33
instead
18:34
of
18:34
saying
18:34
there's
18:34
a
18:35
playground.
18:35
Inclusion
18:36
is
18:36
instead
18:36
of
18:37
saying,
18:37
we
18:37
have
18:38
a
18:38
classroom.
18:39
Inclusion.
18:39
Instead
18:39
of
18:40
saying
18:40
we
18:40
have
18:40
a
18:40
public
18:41
park,
18:41
Inclusion
18:42
is
18:42
now
18:42
saying,
18:43
this
18:43
is
18:43
your
18:43
park.
18:44
This
18:44
is
18:45
now
18:45
a
18:45
playground.
18:46
We're
18:46
going
18:46
to
18:46
make
18:46
sure
18:46
that
18:46
we
18:46
have
18:46
access,
18:47
accessible
18:47
games
18:48
and
18:48
accessible
18:49
things
18:49
for
18:49
children
18:50
with
18:50
a
18:50
range
18:50
of
18:50
different
18:51
needs
18:51
are
18:51
going
18:51
to
18:52
be
18:52
able
18:52
to
18:52
utilize.
18:53
Inclusion
18:53
is
18:54
taking
18:54
that
18:54
public
18:54
park
18:55
and
18:55
saying
18:55
that
18:56
we're
18:56
going
18:56
to
18:56
make
18:56
sure
18:57
that
18:57
we
18:57
are
18:58
able
18:58
to
18:58
have
18:58
it
18:58
staffed,
18:58
that
18:59
it's
18:59
able
18:59
to
18:59
be
18:59
clean,
18:59
that
19:00
we're
19:00
able
19:00
to
19:01
have
19:01
some
19:01
conservationist
19:02
efforts
19:02
to
19:03
preserve
19:03
this
19:03
for
19:03
our
19:03
posterity.
19:04
Inclusion
19:05
is
19:05
taking
19:05
our
19:05
workplaces
19:06
and
19:06
making
19:07
it
19:07
more
19:07
than
19:07
just
19:08
simply
19:08
a
19:08
place
19:08
for
19:08
us
19:09
to
19:09
clock
19:09
in
19:09
and
19:09
go
19:09
nine
19:09
to
19:10
five,
19:10
but
19:10
a
19:10
place
19:11
where
19:11
we
19:11
can
19:11
now
19:11
thrive
19:12
and
19:12
be
19:12
able
19:12
to
19:12
bring
19:13
all
19:13
of
19:13
the
19:13
different
19:14
assets
19:14
that
19:14
we
19:14
have
19:15
into
19:15
that
19:15
space.
19:16
And
19:16
once
19:16
we
19:16
do
19:17
that,
19:17
we
19:17
now
19:18
are
19:18
able
19:18
to
19:18
create
19:18
a
19:19
more
19:19
equitable
19:20
world
19:20
because
19:21
the
19:21
inclusive
19:22
practices
19:22
that
19:22
we
19:22
bring
19:23
forward
19:23
are
19:23
going
19:24
to
19:24
naturally
19:25
embed
19:25
us
19:26
with
19:26
equity.
19:27
When
19:27
we
19:27
see
19:28
people
19:28
talking
19:28
about
19:29
it
19:29
and
19:29
they
19:29
get
19:29
into
19:30
debates
19:30
whether,
19:31
oh,
19:31
are
19:31
we
19:31
talking
19:31
equal
19:32
opportunities?
19:32
Are
19:32
we
19:33
talking
19:33
equal
19:33
outcome?
19:34
People
19:34
are
19:35
still
19:35
missing
19:35
the
19:35
boat
19:36
because
19:36
equity
19:37
itself
19:37
is
19:38
more
19:38
akin
19:38
to
19:38
fairness.
19:39
We've
19:40
all
19:40
seen
19:40
the
19:40
different
19:40
cartoon
19:41
where
19:42
you
19:42
have
19:42
folks
19:42
who
19:43
are,
19:43
you
19:43
know,
19:43
there's
19:44
one
19:44
box,
19:44
there's
19:44
a
19:44
set
19:45
of
19:45
boxes,
19:45
everyone
19:45
has
19:45
a
19:46
box,
19:46
then
19:46
it's,
19:47
oh
19:47
well,
19:47
equity
19:47
is
19:48
actually,
19:48
you
19:48
know,
19:48
two
19:48
boxes
19:49
or
19:50
the
19:50
person
19:50
who
19:50
needs
19:51
the
19:51
most
19:51
than
19:51
one
19:51
box,
19:52
then
19:52
zero.
19:52
But
19:53
what
19:53
we
19:54
use
19:54
now
19:54
in
19:55
some
19:55
of
19:55
our
19:55
trainings
19:55
is
19:56
a
19:56
different
19:56
model.
19:57
I
19:57
mean,
19:57
there's
19:57
someone
19:58
who's
19:58
there
19:58
in
19:58
a
19:58
wheelchair.
19:59
Even
20:00
saying,
20:00
I'm
20:00
going
20:00
to
20:00
give
20:00
you
20:00
a
20:00
box
20:01
is
20:01
still
20:01
not
20:01
going
20:01
to
20:02
meet
20:02
that
20:02
need.
20:03
And
20:03
what's
20:04
incredible
20:04
about
20:05
equity
20:05
is
20:06
that
20:06
it's
20:06
not
20:07
at
20:07
all
20:07
about
20:07
disadvantaging
20:08
anyone.
20:09
Someone
20:09
having
20:10
access
20:10
to
20:10
that
20:10
ram
20:11
does
20:11
not
20:11
take
20:11
away
20:12
from
20:12
my
20:12
ability
20:12
to
20:13
still
20:13
be
20:13
able
20:13
to
20:13
enjoy
20:14
that
20:14
game.
20:15
And
20:15
when
20:15
we
20:15
think
20:15
about
20:16
equity
20:16
from
20:16
the
20:16
standpoint
20:17
of
20:17
it's
20:18
allowing
20:18
us
20:19
to
20:19
all
20:20
be
20:20
able
20:20
to
20:20
bring
20:21
the
20:21
unique
20:21
gifts,
20:22
talents,
20:22
the
20:23
blessings
20:23
that
20:23
we've
20:23
been
20:24
afforded
20:24
to
20:25
the
20:25
betterment
20:25
of
20:26
not
20:26
just
20:26
myself,
20:27
not
20:27
just
20:28
my
20:28
local
20:28
community,
20:28
but
20:28
our
20:28
broader
20:29
community,
20:29
our
20:29
posterity,
20:30
that's
20:31
when
20:31
we're
20:31
able
20:31
to
20:32
now
20:32
see
20:32
the
20:32
value
20:32
of
20:32
diversity
20:33
at
20:33
conclusion.
20:33
And
20:34
truly
20:34
from
20:35
that
20:35
lens,
20:35
I
20:35
can't
20:36
imagine
20:37
anyone
20:37
having
20:38
issue
20:38
with
20:38
any
20:38
of
20:39
these
20:39
different
20:39
things.
20:40
That's
20:40
exactly
20:40
what
20:41
I
20:41
was
20:41
thinking.
20:41
So
20:42
why
20:44
are
20:44
we
20:44
in
20:44
this
20:44
space,
20:46
especially
20:46
now?
20:47
I
20:47
mean,
20:47
this
20:47
is
20:48
huge
20:48
question,
20:49
right?
20:50
That
20:51
when
20:51
we
20:51
look
20:51
at
20:53
simply
20:53
providing
20:54
and
20:55
connecting
20:55
with
20:56
people
20:56
as
20:57
human
20:57
beings,
20:58
especially
20:58
in
20:58
the
20:59
world
20:59
of
20:59
education,
20:59
where
21:00
we're
21:00
entrusted
21:00
with
21:01
other
21:01
people's
21:01
children,
21:02
everything
21:03
you
21:04
just
21:04
described
21:06
is
21:07
what's
21:07
wrong
21:07
with
21:08
that?
21:10
Where
21:10
are
21:11
we
21:11
to
21:11
where
21:12
we
21:12
don't
21:13
want
21:13
to
21:14
live
21:14
in
21:14
a
21:15
world
21:16
that
21:16
you
21:16
just
21:17
described.
21:18
Can
21:19
I
21:19
add,
21:20
Matt,
21:20
before
21:21
you
21:21
go
21:21
on,
21:22
I
21:22
think,
21:23
Cath,
21:24
if
21:24
you,
21:24
if
21:25
you'd
21:25
allow
21:25
me,
21:25
I'd
21:26
like
21:26
to
21:26
dig
21:26
a
21:26
little
21:26
deeper
21:27
with
21:27
that
21:27
question,
21:28
because
21:28
you're
21:28
right,
21:28
there
21:30
is
21:30
how
21:30
we
21:31
define
21:31
humanity,
21:32
right?
21:33
So
21:33
I
21:34
identify
21:35
as
21:35
Afro
21:35
Latin.
21:36
So
21:37
there
21:37
was
21:38
one
21:38
time
21:39
in
21:39
the
21:39
history
21:39
of
21:39
this
21:40
country
21:40
where
21:40
I
21:40
was
21:41
only
21:41
considered
21:42
3/5,
21:43
right?
21:44
It
21:44
goes
21:45
that
21:45
deep
21:46
into
21:46
the
21:47
bare
21:47
basic
21:48
foundation
21:50
and
21:51
groundwork
21:52
of
21:52
our,
21:53
of
21:53
our
21:53
entire
21:54
society,
21:55
at
21:55
least
21:55
Westernized
21:56
society,
21:57
right?
21:58
Where
21:58
humanity
21:59
was
22:00
never
22:00
equal,
22:01
right?
22:02
Those
22:02
who
22:02
were
22:03
the
22:03
founders.
22:04
Because
22:04
I'm
22:04
a
22:05
former
22:05
history
22:05
teacher
22:06
as
22:06
well,
22:06
Matt,
22:06
so
22:07
I
22:07
could
22:07
get
22:07
with
22:07
you
22:07
with
22:08
this,
22:08
and
22:08
I'm
22:08
so
22:08
glad
22:09
to
22:09
have
22:09
that
22:09
thought
22:09
in
22:10
the
22:10
space.
22:11
The
22:11
bare
22:11
foundation
22:13
of
22:13
our
22:13
country
22:14
was
22:14
based
22:14
on
22:15
flawed
22:16
thinking
22:16
and
22:16
flawed
22:17
ideologies,
22:18
right?
22:19
If
22:20
I
22:20
just
22:20
had
22:20
a
22:20
drop,
22:21
I
22:21
was
22:21
considered
22:23
of
22:23
a
22:23
different
22:24
race
22:25
or
22:25
ethnicity.
22:26
So
22:26
I
22:27
think
22:27
we
22:27
should
22:27
look
22:28
around
22:28
humanity
22:29
because
22:29
humanity
22:30
is
22:30
beautifully
22:31
diverse
22:31
within
22:32
itself.
22:33
So
22:34
really,
22:35
who's
22:36
defining,
22:37
right?
22:38
Who's
22:38
classifying
22:39
and
22:40
then
22:40
who's
22:40
controlling
22:41
the
22:41
narrative?
22:42
And
22:42
this
22:43
is
22:43
why
22:43
certain
22:44
groups
22:44
are
22:44
marginalized
22:46
and
22:47
we
22:48
have
22:48
to
22:48
really
22:48
fight
22:50
to
22:51
call
22:51
out
22:51
so
22:52
we
22:52
could
22:52
call
22:52
in.
22:53
So,
22:54
Kath,
22:54
I
22:54
just
22:54
wanted
22:54
to
22:55
add
22:55
that
22:55
thought
22:56
on.
22:56
Thank
22:56
you
22:57
for
22:57
accepting
22:57
that.
22:58
And
22:58
Matt,
22:59
if
22:59
you
22:59
could
22:59
give
22:59
us
23:00
a
23:00
deeper,
23:00
deeper
23:01
dive
23:01
and
23:02
perspective
23:02
into
23:02
that,
23:03
that
23:03
would
23:03
be
23:03
greatly
23:04
appreciated.
23:05
Absolutely.
23:06
Alicia
23:07
and
23:07
Kath,
23:07
I
23:07
think
23:08
those
23:08
are
23:09
really,
23:09
really,
23:10
really
23:11
excellent
23:12
parallel
23:12
points
23:13
to
23:13
one
23:13
another.
23:14
And
23:14
so
23:15
kind
23:15
of
23:15
going
23:15
to
23:16
a
23:16
bit
23:16
of
23:16
the
23:16
historical
23:17
context,
23:17
even
23:18
just
23:18
of
23:18
the
23:18
United
23:18
States
23:18
as
23:19
a
23:19
whole,
23:19
but
23:19
really
23:20
our
23:20
education
23:21
system.
23:22
If
23:22
we
23:22
look
23:24
earlier
23:24
into
23:25
our
23:25
education
23:25
system,
23:26
and
23:26
I'm
23:26
going
23:26
to
23:26
build
23:27
from
23:27
the
23:27
lens
23:28
that
23:28
we
23:28
see
23:28
the
23:28
auspices
23:29
of
23:29
race,
23:30
one
23:30
of
23:30
the
23:30
ways
23:30
that
23:31
we
23:31
have
23:33
just
23:34
race,
23:34
racism
23:35
and
23:35
racist
23:36
ideology
23:36
that
23:36
became
23:37
embedded
23:37
into
23:39
just
23:39
early
23:40
parts
23:40
of
23:40
American
23:40
culture
23:41
was
23:42
through
23:42
transatlantic
23:42
slave
23:43
trade.
23:43
And
23:44
so
23:44
this
23:44
is
23:44
one
23:44
of
23:44
those
23:44
areas
23:45
where
23:45
folks
23:45
may
23:45
say,
23:46
oh,
23:46
well,
23:46
this
23:46
was
23:46
hundreds
23:47
of
23:47
years
23:47
ago.
23:47
How
23:47
could
23:48
that
23:48
possibly
23:48
affect
23:49
today?
23:49
Slavery
23:50
existed
23:50
in
23:50
other
23:50
parts
23:51
of
23:51
the
23:51
world.
23:51
This
23:51
isn't
23:52
just
23:52
an
23:52
American
23:52
thing.
23:53
And
23:53
it
23:53
did.
23:54
But
23:54
what
23:54
happened
23:54
was
23:55
slavery
23:55
had
23:56
been
23:56
outlawed
23:56
in
23:56
Christianity.
23:57
And
23:57
the
23:58
idea
23:58
was
23:58
that
23:59
in
24:00
order
24:00
to
24:01
justify
24:02
enslavement
24:03
of
24:03
Africans,
24:04
there
24:04
had
24:05
to
24:05
be
24:05
a
24:05
dehumanization
24:06
of
24:06
Africans
24:07
to
24:07
now
24:08
disassociate.
24:08
So
24:08
it's
24:09
not,
24:09
we're
24:09
doing
24:09
this
24:09
to
24:09
another
24:10
human,
24:10
we're
24:10
doing
24:11
this
24:11
to
24:11
other
24:11
people,
24:12
creatures
24:12
to
24:12
other
24:13
beings.
24:13
And
24:14
so
24:14
when
24:14
you
24:14
have
24:14
that
24:14
as
24:14
a
24:15
framework,
24:15
you
24:15
already
24:16
are
24:16
at
24:16
a
24:16
deficit
24:17
mindset.
24:18
Now,
24:18
when
24:18
we
24:18
look
24:19
at
24:19
things
24:19
from
24:19
another
24:19
vantage
24:20
point,
24:20
even
24:20
with
24:20
the
24:20
educational
24:21
system,
24:22
it
24:22
early
24:23
on,
24:23
foundationally,
24:24
had
24:24
been
24:24
skewed
24:25
against
24:25
women.
24:26
And
24:26
so
24:26
this
24:26
is
24:27
another
24:27
area
24:27
where
24:27
we
24:28
see
24:28
groups
24:28
becoming
24:29
marginalized.
24:30
Now,
24:30
when
24:30
we
24:30
bring
24:31
these
24:31
things
24:31
to
24:32
today's
24:32
context,
24:32
and
24:33
this
24:33
is
24:33
the
24:33
part
24:33
where
24:34
I
24:34
really
24:34
want
24:35
to
24:35
try
24:35
to
24:35
emphasize,
24:36
how
24:36
do
24:36
we
24:37
break
24:37
that
24:37
cycle?
24:38
I
24:38
think
24:38
many
24:38
of
24:38
us
24:38
are
24:39
aware
24:39
of
24:39
the
24:39
challenges
24:40
that
24:40
exist
24:40
there,
24:40
and.
24:40
But
24:40
how
24:41
do
24:41
we
24:41
move
24:41
past
24:41
them?
24:42
One
24:43
of
24:43
the
24:43
biggest
24:43
things
24:44
is
24:45
through
24:45
what
24:45
we
24:45
all
24:45
do
24:46
best
24:46
is
24:46
through
24:46
education.
24:47
The
24:47
misnomers
24:48
that
24:48
exist
24:48
with
24:48
DEI
24:49
and
24:50
this
24:50
work
24:50
and
24:50
why
24:51
folks
24:51
are
24:51
confused
24:52
is
24:52
because
24:53
the
24:53
campaign
24:54
for
24:54
what
24:54
it
24:54
is
24:54
is
24:55
not
24:55
as
24:55
loud
24:55
as
24:55
the
24:56
campaign
24:56
for
24:56
what
24:56
it
24:56
is.
24:58
And
24:58
I'm
24:58
going
24:58
to
24:58
repeat
24:58
that
24:59
the
24:59
campaign
25:00
for
25:00
what
25:00
diversity,
25:01
equity
25:01
and
25:01
inclusion
25:02
stand
25:02
for,
25:02
it
25:03
was
25:03
not
25:03
as
25:03
loud,
25:03
is
25:04
not
25:04
as
25:04
loud
25:04
as
25:05
a
25:05
campaign
25:05
for
25:06
what
25:06
they
25:06
are
25:06
not.
25:07
And
25:08
in
25:08
my
25:08
capacity,
25:09
I've
25:09
had
25:09
folks
25:10
Reach
25:10
out
25:10
and
25:10
call
25:11
me.
25:11
I've
25:11
had
25:12
folks
25:12
who
25:12
brought
25:13
things
25:13
up
25:13
where,
25:14
you
25:14
know,
25:14
sometimes
25:14
I'm
25:14
just
25:15
wondering
25:15
like
25:15
where
25:15
would
25:15
that
25:15
even
25:16
have
25:16
come
25:16
from?
25:16
And
25:17
this
25:17
is
25:17
with
25:17
a
25:17
lot
25:18
of
25:18
transparency.
25:19
This
25:19
is
25:19
with
25:20
all
25:20
the
25:20
committee
25:20
meetings
25:21
being
25:21
public
25:22
and
25:22
then
25:22
also
25:22
being
25:23
recorded
25:23
and
25:23
also
25:24
posted
25:24
on
25:24
the
25:24
website
25:25
so
25:25
anyone
25:26
could
25:26
actually
25:26
see
25:26
them.
25:27
This
25:27
is
25:27
also
25:28
where
25:28
anyone
25:29
could
25:29
also
25:29
join
25:29
the
25:30
committees
25:30
if
25:30
they
25:30
reach
25:30
interested.
25:31
This
25:31
is
25:31
also
25:32
with
25:32
things
25:32
like
25:32
that
25:32
student
25:33
anti
25:33
hate
25:33
rally
25:34
that
25:34
was
25:34
also
25:34
a
25:34
public
25:35
event
25:35
where
25:35
community
25:35
members
25:36
could
25:36
attend.
25:36
So
25:36
these
25:37
are
25:37
things
25:37
where
25:37
it's
25:37
folks
25:38
could
25:38
directly
25:38
see
25:38
what
25:39
was
25:39
happening.
25:40
Yet
25:41
still
25:41
that
25:41
misinformation
25:42
spreads.
25:42
And
25:43
I
25:43
think
25:43
that
25:43
one
25:44
of
25:44
the
25:44
biggest
25:44
things
25:45
that
25:45
we
25:45
have
25:45
to
25:46
do
25:46
as
25:46
advocates
25:47
for,
25:48
for
25:48
student
25:48
rights,
25:49
for
25:49
student
25:49
dignity,
25:50
using
25:50
that
25:50
exact
25:51
same
25:51
language
25:51
that
25:51
you
25:51
use,
25:52
Grant.
25:52
We
25:52
have
25:53
to
25:53
take
25:53
the
25:53
historical
25:54
context
25:54
that
25:54
we
25:54
know
25:54
exist
25:55
and
25:55
still
25:56
push
25:56
forward
25:57
for
25:57
equity
25:57
throughout.
25:58
And
25:58
I
25:58
think
25:59
where
25:59
folks
25:59
get
26:00
lost
26:00
on
26:00
it
26:00
is
26:01
through
26:01
a
26:01
fear
26:01
monitoring
26:02
tactic
26:02
of
26:03
if
26:03
so
26:03
and
26:03
so
26:04
gains
26:04
more
26:05
equity.
26:05
If
26:05
we
26:05
create
26:06
a
26:06
more
26:06
inclusive
26:06
space,
26:07
that
26:07
means
26:07
you
26:07
lose
26:07
something.
26:08
And
26:08
that's
26:08
a
26:09
fundamental
26:09
misunderstanding
26:10
of
26:10
what
26:10
inclusion
26:10
is.
26:11
Inclusion,
26:12
it's
26:12
not
26:12
a
26:12
zero
26:12
sum
26:13
game.
26:13
It's
26:13
not
26:13
that
26:13
there's
26:14
100
26:14
pieces
26:15
of
26:15
cake
26:15
and
26:15
us
26:15
saying
26:16
that
26:16
now
26:16
you
26:17
have
26:17
to
26:17
give
26:17
from
26:17
yourself.
26:18
What
26:18
it
26:19
really
26:19
is
26:19
is
26:19
saying
26:20
there's
26:20
been
26:20
a
26:20
fundamental
26:21
misdistribution
26:22
that's
26:22
been
26:23
happening.
26:23
And
26:23
what
26:23
we're
26:24
saying
26:24
is
26:24
that
26:24
we
26:24
have
26:24
to
26:24
acknowledge
26:25
that
26:25
there
26:25
are
26:25
folks
26:26
who
26:26
are
26:26
on
26:26
the
26:26
perimeter
26:27
who
26:27
have
26:27
been
26:27
forced
26:27
to
26:28
become
26:28
pariahs
26:29
in
26:29
our
26:29
society.
26:30
And
26:30
that's
26:31
a
26:31
piece
26:31
of
26:31
reflection
26:32
that's
26:32
hard
26:32
for
26:33
us
26:33
to
26:33
grapple
26:33
with.
26:34
That
26:34
it
26:34
doesn't
26:35
have
26:35
to
26:35
mean
26:35
that
26:36
you
26:36
yourself
26:36
did
26:37
something.
26:37
It
26:37
doesn't
26:38
have
26:38
to
26:38
mean
26:38
that
26:38
you
26:39
yourself
26:39
are
26:39
trying
26:39
to
26:39
propagate
26:40
something.
26:40
If
26:41
we
26:41
can
26:41
understand
26:41
our
26:42
systems
26:42
have
26:43
been
26:43
based
26:43
in
26:43
a
26:44
way
26:44
that
26:44
disadvantages
26:45
folks.
26:45
If
26:46
our
26:46
systems
26:46
have
26:47
been
26:47
based
26:47
in
26:47
a
26:47
way
26:48
that
26:48
is
26:48
exclusive
26:49
rather
26:49
than
26:49
inclusive,
26:50
if
26:51
they
26:51
do
26:51
not
26:52
necessarily
26:52
foster
26:53
diversity
26:54
from
26:54
all
26:54
the
26:54
different
26:55
ranges
26:55
that
26:55
it
26:55
comes
26:55
from,
26:55
if
26:56
they
26:56
do
26:56
not
26:56
foster
26:57
an
26:57
equitable
26:58
environment
26:59
where
26:59
we're
26:59
meeting
27:00
people
27:00
at
27:00
what
27:00
their
27:01
needs
27:01
are,
27:02
then
27:02
we
27:02
are
27:03
perpetuating
27:04
systems
27:04
that
27:05
are
27:05
not
27:05
serving
27:06
all
27:06
of
27:06
us.
27:06
And
27:07
so
27:08
something
27:08
that
27:08
I
27:08
saw
27:09
a
27:09
lot
27:09
of
27:09
success
27:09
with
27:10
honestly
27:11
was
27:11
really
27:11
bringing
27:12
folks
27:12
to
27:12
the
27:12
table
27:12
and
27:13
letting
27:13
us
27:13
have
27:13
those
27:13
conversations
27:14
and
27:15
letting
27:15
that
27:15
play
27:15
out.
27:16
What
27:16
I
27:17
one
27:17
example
27:18
that
27:18
I
27:18
remember
27:19
hearing
27:20
was
27:20
someone
27:21
who
27:23
loved
27:23
their
27:23
children
27:23
so
27:24
much
27:24
and
27:24
they
27:25
ended
27:25
up
27:25
going
27:26
as
27:26
far
27:26
as
27:26
saying
27:26
they
27:26
would
27:26
take
27:26
a
27:27
bullet
27:27
for
27:27
any
27:27
kid
27:27
in
27:29
this
27:29
room.
27:30
And
27:31
what
27:31
they
27:31
were
27:31
really
27:32
struggling
27:32
with
27:33
was
27:33
why
27:34
did
27:34
kids.
27:35
Why
27:35
was
27:35
the
27:36
kid
27:36
learning
27:36
about
27:36
X,
27:37
Y
27:37
and
27:37
Z
27:37
group?
27:39
And
27:40
what
27:41
I
27:41
was
27:41
able
27:42
to
27:42
connect
27:42
with
27:42
that
27:42
individuals
27:43
about
27:43
was
27:44
their
27:44
love
27:45
for
27:45
their
27:45
community
27:47
and
27:47
affirming
27:48
that
27:48
there
27:48
are
27:48
folks
27:49
in
27:49
this
27:49
community
27:50
who
27:50
they
27:50
would
27:51
take
27:51
a
27:51
bullet
27:51
for.
27:51
But
27:51
they
27:52
were
27:52
worried
27:52
about
27:53
others
27:53
learning
27:54
about
27:54
and
27:55
to
27:55
really
27:55
just
27:55
kind
27:55
of
27:56
frame
27:56
that.
27:57
Because
27:57
the
27:57
essence
27:58
of
27:58
what
27:58
had
27:58
happened
27:59
was
27:59
fear
28:00
at
28:00
some
28:00
point
28:01
had
28:01
been
28:02
injected
28:02
into
28:02
that
28:04
they
28:04
were
28:04
someone
28:05
who
28:05
really
28:05
did
28:06
want
28:06
to
28:06
do
28:06
good
28:06
things.
28:07
They
28:07
really
28:07
wanted
28:08
to
28:08
see
28:08
their
28:08
community
28:08
prosperity.
28:09
But
28:10
the
28:10
messaging
28:10
of
28:10
what
28:11
diversity,
28:11
equity,
28:12
inclusion
28:12
are
28:13
was
28:13
not
28:13
as
28:14
loud
28:14
to
28:14
them
28:15
as
28:15
the
28:15
messaging
28:15
of
28:15
what
28:16
it
28:16
wasn't.
28:17
And
28:17
so
28:18
that
28:18
really
28:18
is
28:19
one
28:19
of
28:19
those
28:19
big
28:19
areas
28:19
for
28:20
us
28:20
to
28:20
tackle.
28:20
And
28:21
I
28:21
think
28:21
that
28:22
we
28:22
shouldn't
28:23
be
28:23
afraid
28:23
of
28:24
showing
28:25
what
28:25
that
28:25
looks
28:25
like
28:25
in
28:26
our
28:26
spaces.
28:27
And
28:28
universal
28:28
design
28:28
is
28:29
one
28:29
of
28:29
the
28:29
easiest
28:29
ways
28:30
that
28:30
we
28:30
can
28:30
approach
28:31
that
28:31
in
28:31
showcasing
28:32
things
28:33
that
28:33
it
28:33
doesn't
28:34
hurt
28:34
us
28:34
to
28:35
have
28:35
captions.
28:36
For
28:36
example,
28:36
when
28:37
showing
28:37
a
28:37
video
28:37
capture,
28:38
that's
28:39
not
28:39
something
28:39
that's
28:39
harming
28:40
any
28:40
student.
28:40
No
28:40
student
28:40
is
28:41
now
28:41
having
28:42
a
28:42
lesser
28:43
experience
28:44
because
28:44
there's
28:44
also
28:45
captions
28:45
that
28:45
are
28:45
going
28:45
to
28:45
support
28:46
other
28:46
students
28:47
and
28:47
being
28:47
able
28:47
to
28:47
better
28:47
access
28:48
a
28:48
clip
28:48
that
28:48
we're
28:48
showing.
28:49
And
28:49
so
28:49
some
28:50
of
28:50
it
28:50
is
28:50
sharing
28:50
just
28:51
on
28:51
a
28:51
micro
28:51
scale,
28:52
what
28:52
that
28:52
can
28:52
look
28:52
like.
28:53
And
28:53
that
28:54
starts
28:54
to
28:54
remove
28:54
the
28:54
fear.
28:55
Matt,
28:56
I
28:56
could
28:56
listen
28:57
to
28:57
you
28:57
all
28:57
day.
28:58
I
28:58
see
28:58
why
28:59
you,
29:00
Michael,
29:00
just
29:01
was
29:02
so
29:03
lovingly
29:04
adamant
29:04
to
29:05
bring
29:05
you
29:05
to
29:05
the
29:05
table
29:06
for
29:07
this
29:07
conversation
29:08
because
29:08
I
29:08
just
29:09
so
29:09
appreciate
29:10
all
29:11
of
29:11
your
29:11
experiences
29:12
and
29:12
all
29:12
of
29:13
your
29:13
passion
29:14
for
29:16
the
29:16
humanity
29:17
of
29:17
the
29:17
children
29:18
in
29:18
which
29:18
we
29:18
serve,
29:18
in
29:19
the
29:19
community
29:19
in
29:19
which
29:19
we
29:20
serve.
29:20
There
29:21
is
29:21
that
29:21
fear
29:22
that
29:23
has
29:23
been
29:23
injected
29:24
in
29:24
thinking
29:25
that
29:26
these
29:27
three
29:27
words
29:28
somehow
29:29
damage
29:30
or
29:31
going
29:31
to
29:31
damage
29:33
children.
29:34
I
29:34
mean,
29:35
the
29:35
reality.
29:36
And
29:36
Lucy,
29:36
I
29:36
want
29:36
to
29:36
also
29:37
give
29:37
you
29:37
this
29:37
chance
29:37
to
29:38
say
29:38
something,
29:38
but
29:38
just
29:38
real
29:39
quick,
29:39
the
29:40
idea
29:41
of
29:41
openness
29:42
and
29:42
in
29:42
terms
29:43
of
29:43
the
29:43
work
29:43
and
29:43
what
29:44
it
29:44
looks
29:44
like,
29:45
it's
29:45
essential
29:46
because
29:46
it
29:47
also
29:47
helps
29:47
folks.
29:48
I
29:49
think
29:49
it
29:49
disarms
29:50
those
29:50
misnomers.
29:50
It
29:51
disarms
29:52
that
29:52
fear
29:53
of,
29:53
well,
29:54
what
29:54
kind
29:54
of
29:55
things
29:55
are
29:55
happening.
29:55
I've
29:56
actually
29:56
even
29:57
said
29:57
to
29:57
parents
29:58
before,
29:58
hey,
29:59
listen,
30:00
this
30:00
is
30:00
the
30:00
exact
30:01
book.
30:01
And
30:01
you
30:01
can
30:01
see
30:01
where
30:02
this
30:02
is.
30:02
This
30:03
is
30:03
where
30:03
this
30:03
is
30:03
coming
30:04
from.
30:04
And
30:04
I
30:05
always
30:05
would
30:05
open
30:06
those
30:06
conversations
30:06
with
30:07
folks
30:08
to
30:08
find
30:08
that
30:09
common
30:09
ground.
30:10
Because
30:10
I
30:11
can
30:11
also
30:11
tell
30:11
you
30:11
this,
30:12
and
30:13
I
30:13
say
30:13
this
30:13
really
30:14
from
30:14
a
30:14
place
30:14
of
30:15
pride
30:15
and
30:15
community.
30:16
It's
30:16
not
30:16
as
30:16
if
30:17
there
30:17
was
30:17
100,
30:17
you
30:18
know,
30:18
people
30:18
who
30:18
were
30:18
just
30:19
like,
30:19
yes,
30:19
I
30:19
love
30:19
this,
30:20
but
30:21
what
30:22
my
30:22
favorite
30:23
thing
30:23
that
30:23
would
30:23
happen
30:23
is
30:24
is
30:24
if
30:24
you
30:24
had
30:25
someone
30:26
who
30:26
had
30:26
been
30:27
opposed
30:28
to
30:28
the
30:28
work,
30:29
seeing
30:30
the
30:30
work,
30:30
then
30:31
becoming
30:31
someone
30:31
who
30:32
was
30:32
an
30:32
advocate
30:32
themselves.
30:33
Because
30:34
there's
30:34
certain
30:34
things
30:35
that,
30:35
from
30:36
my
30:36
lens,
30:37
I
30:37
am.
30:38
I
30:38
am
30:39
black.
30:39
I
30:40
am
30:40
an
30:40
immigrant.
30:41
I
30:41
have
30:42
other
30:42
characteristics
30:43
where
30:43
my
30:43
vantage
30:44
point
30:44
isn't
30:44
going
30:44
to
30:44
be
30:45
the
30:45
same
30:45
as
30:46
someone
30:46
who
30:47
grew
30:47
up
30:47
in
30:47
whatever
30:47
context.
30:48
And
30:48
I
30:49
think
30:49
letting
30:49
them
30:49
know
30:49
that.
30:50
I'm
30:50
not
30:51
expecting
30:51
you
30:51
to
30:51
have
30:51
my
30:52
same
30:52
context.
30:53
But
30:53
it's
30:53
important
30:54
for
30:54
us
30:54
to
30:54
frame
30:55
things,
30:55
especially
30:55
in
30:55
the
30:55
world
30:56
of
30:56
education
30:57
and
30:57
language,
30:57
of
30:57
what
30:58
is
30:58
best
30:58
for
30:58
kids.
30:59
Kids
31:00
are
31:00
going
31:00
to
31:01
grow
31:01
up
31:01
in
31:01
an
31:02
increasingly
31:02
globalized
31:03
world.
31:03
Kids,
31:04
we.
31:04
We
31:05
want
31:05
our
31:05
kids
31:05
to
31:05
be
31:06
kind.
31:06
We
31:06
share
31:07
with
31:07
them
31:07
the
31:07
golden
31:07
rule.
31:08
We
31:08
want
31:08
them
31:08
to
31:09
do
31:09
unto
31:09
others
31:09
they
31:09
would
31:09
have
31:10
done
31:10
unto
31:10
them.
31:11
And
31:11
so
31:11
this
31:11
is
31:11
one
31:12
of
31:12
those
31:12
things
31:12
where
31:12
we
31:12
look
31:13
even
31:13
at
31:13
the
31:13
Statue
31:13
of
31:13
Liberty
31:14
and
31:14
what
31:14
that
31:15
icon
31:15
really
31:15
was
31:15
supposed
31:16
to
31:16
stand
31:16
for
31:16
was
31:17
supposed
31:17
to
31:17
symbolize.
31:18
And
31:18
it's
31:19
hard
31:19
for
31:19
us
31:19
because
31:20
we
31:20
come
31:20
up
31:20
and
31:21
say,
31:21
well,
31:21
yeah,
31:21
but
31:21
this
31:21
immigrant
31:22
group
31:22
got
31:23
out.
31:23
But
31:24
then
31:24
we
31:24
missed
31:24
what
31:24
Alicia
31:25
had
31:25
pointed
31:25
out
31:25
in
31:25
the
31:25
beginning,
31:26
that
31:27
we
31:27
were
31:27
coming
31:28
from
31:28
unequal
31:28
standing.
31:29
Some
31:30
families
31:30
are
31:30
like,
31:31
they
31:31
even
31:31
change
31:31
their
31:32
names
31:32
to
31:32
hide
31:33
their
31:33
ethnic
31:33
past.
31:34
Whether
31:35
my
31:35
name
31:35
is
31:35
Matt
31:36
or
31:36
whether
31:37
my
31:37
name
31:37
is
31:37
any
31:38
other
31:38
name,
31:39
you
31:39
still
31:39
see
31:40
me,
31:40
and
31:40
I'm
31:40
still
31:40
black.
31:41
And
31:42
so
31:42
there
31:42
are
31:42
certain
31:42
things
31:43
that
31:43
I
31:44
there
31:44
the
31:45
idea
31:45
of
31:45
assimilation.
31:46
And
31:46
we
31:46
look
31:46
at
31:46
this,
31:46
the
31:47
melting
31:47
pot
31:47
versus
31:47
sellable
31:48
analogy
31:49
is
31:49
thinking
31:49
about
31:49
America.
31:50
And
31:50
as
31:51
much
31:51
as
31:51
the
31:51
melting
31:51
pot
31:52
sounds
31:52
very,
31:52
very
31:52
nice,
31:53
and
31:53
it
31:53
can
31:53
sound
31:53
great,
31:54
hey,
31:54
we're
31:54
bringing
31:54
together
31:54
all
31:54
these
31:55
different
31:55
cultures.
31:55
Well,
31:56
there's
31:56
also
31:56
distinct
31:56
things
31:57
that
31:57
are
31:57
valuable
31:57
in
31:58
these
31:58
cultures,
31:58
and
31:59
we're
31:59
not
31:59
trying
31:59
to
31:59
have
31:59
things
32:00
lost.
32:01
And
32:01
so
32:02
even
32:03
you
32:03
know
32:04
that
32:04
that
32:04
Latin
32:05
phrase,
32:05
e
32:05
pluribus
32:06
unuma,
32:06
out
32:06
of
32:06
many
32:07
one,
32:08
there
32:08
still
32:08
are
32:09
many
32:09
that
32:09
are
32:09
brought
32:09
to
32:09
the
32:10
table.
32:10
And
32:11
so,
32:12
especially
32:12
for
32:13
patriots,
32:13
especially
32:14
for
32:14
people
32:14
who
32:14
love
32:15
this
32:15
country,
32:16
that
32:17
stance
32:17
of
32:18
e
32:18
pluribus
32:18
unum
32:19
should
32:19
hold
32:19
more
32:20
true
32:20
for
32:20
a
32:20
patriot
32:20
than
32:21
anyone
32:21
else.
32:22
And
32:23
I
32:24
can
32:24
be
32:24
wrong
32:24
here,
32:24
but
32:24
e
32:24
pluribus
32:25
unum
32:25
sounds
32:25
a
32:26
lot
32:26
like
32:26
diversity.
32:27
So
32:27
now
32:28
that
32:28
you
32:28
took
32:28
that
32:28
stand,
32:29
and
32:29
I
32:29
just
32:30
want
32:30
to
32:30
hop
32:30
in
32:31
before
32:31
the
32:32
next
32:32
question
32:33
pops.
32:34
Man,
32:35
I'm
32:35
meeting
32:35
you
32:35
for
32:35
the
32:36
first
32:36
time.
32:36
And
32:37
I
32:37
take
32:37
great
32:37
pride
32:38
because
32:39
we
32:39
are
32:39
of
32:39
two
32:40
different
32:40
generations.
32:41
Right.
32:42
And
32:45
to
32:45
hear
32:45
you
32:46
talk
32:46
about
32:46
your
32:46
dad
32:47
right
32:47
now,
32:47
I'm
32:48
of
32:48
a
32:48
legacy
32:48
of
32:48
educators
32:49
as
32:49
well.
32:50
And
32:50
then
32:51
for
32:51
me
32:51
to
32:51
see
32:52
you,
32:53
it
32:54
makes
32:54
me
32:54
feel
32:54
rewarded
32:55
because
32:55
it's
32:56
been
32:56
some
32:56
hard
32:56
work.
32:57
So
32:58
this
32:58
work
32:58
is
32:58
hard
32:59
work.
32:59
Yeah,
33:00
it's.
33:01
It's,
33:02
you
33:03
know,
33:03
we
33:03
Used
33:03
to
33:03
say
33:03
the
33:03
resistance,
33:04
right?
33:05
It's.
33:05
It's
33:05
not
33:06
even
33:06
that.
33:06
It's
33:06
about
33:07
resilience,
33:07
right?
33:08
Educating
33:08
folks
33:09
that
33:09
have
33:09
to
33:09
move
33:10
mindsets
33:10
and
33:11
paradigms,
33:11
mental
33:12
models.
33:13
It's
33:13
not
33:14
physical,
33:14
it's
33:15
not.
33:15
It's
33:16
a
33:16
mental
33:17
model.
33:17
A
33:18
mind
33:19
shift,
33:19
A
33:19
paradigm
33:20
shift
33:21
has
33:21
to
33:21
be
33:22
hard,
33:22
intentional
33:23
work
33:24
where
33:24
people
33:24
have
33:24
to
33:25
sit
33:25
in
33:25
some
33:25
deep
33:26
self
33:26
reflection
33:27
and
33:28
be
33:28
ready
33:28
to
33:28
have
33:29
those
33:29
courageous
33:30
conversations
33:30
with
33:31
themselves
33:32
before
33:33
we
33:33
can
33:33
even
33:34
think
33:34
about
33:34
a
33:35
solution.
33:36
So
33:37
it
33:37
makes
33:37
me
33:37
feel
33:38
really
33:38
good
33:38
because
33:39
it
33:39
does
33:39
get
33:40
exhausted,
33:41
right?
33:42
This
33:42
work
33:42
is
33:43
exhausting
33:45
that,
33:46
you
33:46
know,
33:46
I
33:46
feel
33:47
personally
33:48
that
33:48
I
33:48
could
33:48
tap
33:48
on
33:49
some
33:49
folks
33:50
and
33:50
be
33:50
like,
33:51
all
33:51
right,
33:51
you
33:52
know,
33:52
I'm,
33:53
I'm
33:53
out
33:53
for
33:53
the
33:53
count.
33:54
Like,
33:54
I
33:54
need
33:54
a
33:54
timeout.
33:55
I
33:55
need
33:55
a
33:55
self
33:56
care
33:56
moment
33:56
and
33:57
to
33:57
know
33:57
that
33:57
the
33:57
work
33:58
still
33:58
continues.
33:59
So
33:59
before
34:00
we
34:00
move
34:00
on
34:00
to
34:01
the
34:01
next
34:01
question,
34:01
I
34:02
did,
34:02
you
34:02
know,
34:03
want
34:03
to
34:03
make
34:03
that
34:04
statement,
34:04
a
34:04
blanket
34:05
statement
34:06
that
34:08
there
34:08
have
34:08
been,
34:09
there
34:09
have
34:09
been
34:10
many
34:10
a
34:10
nights,
34:10
right,
34:11
where
34:11
I
34:11
have
34:11
not
34:12
gone
34:12
to
34:12
bed
34:12
and
34:12
there
34:13
have
34:13
been
34:13
many
34:13
of
34:13
us
34:13
that
34:14
have
34:14
not
34:14
gone
34:14
to
34:14
bed,
34:15
right.
34:15
There
34:15
are
34:16
sleepless
34:16
nights,
34:17
there
34:17
are
34:17
restless
34:18
nights,
34:18
right
34:20
where,
34:21
where
34:21
we
34:21
don't
34:21
realize
34:22
or
34:23
understand
34:23
if
34:24
we're
34:24
safe
34:24
or
34:24
not.
34:25
Because
34:25
we
34:25
did
34:25
come
34:26
out
34:26
in
34:26
public
34:26
spaces
34:27
and
34:27
articulate
34:28
and
34:29
call
34:29
out,
34:30
right?
34:30
It,
34:31
it
34:31
makes
34:32
me
34:32
feel
34:33
good
34:33
that
34:33
there
34:33
is
34:34
still
34:35
a
34:36
collective
34:36
group
34:37
of
34:37
younger
34:38
individuals
34:39
that
34:39
will
34:39
continue
34:40
to
34:40
fight
34:41
the
34:41
good
34:41
fight
34:42
and
34:42
continue
34:42
with
34:43
the
34:43
cause
34:43
and
34:44
continue
34:44
to
34:45
be
34:45
resilient.
34:46
So
34:46
I
34:47
just,
34:47
I
34:47
wanted
34:47
to
34:48
amplify
34:48
that
34:50
because
34:50
that,
34:51
that
34:51
makes
34:52
me
34:52
feel
34:52
really
34:52
good
34:53
this
34:53
morning.
34:53
So
34:54
I
34:54
wanted
34:54
to
34:54
thank
34:55
you
34:55
for
34:55
that
34:55
and
34:56
continue
34:57
to
34:57
do
34:57
this
34:58
great
34:58
work
34:58
because,
34:59
you
34:59
know,
34:59
you
34:59
stand
35:00
on
35:00
the
35:00
shoulders
35:00
of
35:01
many.
35:02
Absolutely.
35:03
That
35:04
part
35:04
I
35:04
want
35:04
to
35:05
underscore,
35:05
if
35:05
I
35:06
may,
35:06
very,
35:06
very
35:06
quickly.
35:07
Standing
35:07
on
35:07
the
35:08
shoulders
35:08
of
35:08
our
35:08
predecessors.
35:11
Something
35:11
that
35:12
is,
35:13
was
35:13
both
35:14
darring
35:14
to
35:14
me
35:15
and
35:15
also
35:15
invigorating
35:16
and
35:16
inspirational.
35:18
Was
35:18
thinking
35:19
about
35:21
doing
35:22
work
35:22
in
35:22
this
35:23
space
35:24
across
35:24
my
35:25
life
35:25
and
35:25
thinking
35:26
about
35:26
the
35:26
role
35:26
of
35:27
my
35:27
parents
35:27
and
35:27
thinking
35:27
about
35:28
work
35:28
that
35:29
they've
35:29
done.
35:29
And
35:30
I'll
35:30
underscore
35:30
my
35:30
mom
35:31
just
35:31
real
35:31
quick
35:31
here.
35:32
She's
35:32
someone
35:33
who
35:33
has
35:33
done
35:33
so
35:34
much
35:34
community
35:35
work,
35:35
so
35:35
much
35:35
work
35:36
as
35:36
a
35:36
student,
35:38
and
35:39
has
35:39
always
35:40
stood
35:40
for
35:40
the
35:41
marginalized,
35:41
for
35:42
the
35:42
oppressed,
35:43
for
35:43
folks
35:43
who
35:43
have
35:44
been
35:44
pushed
35:45
and
35:45
cast
35:46
aside
35:46
in
35:46
society.
35:47
And,
35:47
and
35:47
there
35:48
was
35:48
one
35:48
moment,
35:48
honestly
35:49
in
35:49
2020,
35:49
where,
35:50
you
35:50
know,
35:50
I
35:50
was
35:50
sitting
35:50
there
35:51
and
35:51
I
35:51
actually
35:52
almost,
35:52
I
35:52
don't
35:53
want
35:53
to
35:53
say
35:53
mistakenly,
35:53
but
35:53
I
35:54
felt
35:54
almost
35:54
proud
35:54
to
35:55
be
35:55
like,
35:55
yes,
35:56
I'm
35:56
carrying
35:56
the
35:56
torch
35:56
that
35:56
she
35:57
gave
35:57
me.
35:57
And
35:58
then
35:58
I
35:58
sat
35:58
there
35:59
and
35:59
thought,
35:59
wait,
36:00
A
36:00
second.
36:00
Why
36:00
am
36:00
I
36:01
fighting
36:01
against
36:01
the
36:01
same
36:02
things
36:02
that
36:02
my
36:02
mom
36:02
fought
36:02
against
36:03
30
36:03
years
36:03
ago?
36:03
That's
36:04
some
36:04
BS
36:04
and
36:05
I
36:05
thought
36:05
it.
36:05
But
36:05
you
36:06
know
36:06
what
36:06
I
36:06
mean,
36:06
I
36:07
was
36:07
like,
36:07
that's
36:07
kind
36:07
of
36:07
crazy.
36:09
That.
36:09
And
36:09
so
36:10
that
36:10
was
36:10
something
36:10
that
36:11
it
36:11
both
36:11
was
36:11
jarring
36:12
for
36:12
me
36:12
and
36:13
also
36:13
invigorating
36:14
because
36:14
I
36:14
had
36:15
to.
36:16
I
36:16
really
36:16
had
36:16
to
36:17
grapple
36:17
with
36:17
that
36:18
tension
36:18
for
36:18
a
36:18
while
36:19
and
36:20
think
36:20
about,
36:21
okay,
36:21
so
36:22
being
36:22
complacent,
36:23
obviously,
36:23
is
36:23
not
36:24
an
36:24
option,
36:25
but
36:25
we
36:26
need
36:26
to
36:26
effectuate
36:26
change
36:27
and.
36:27
And
36:28
really
36:28
do
36:28
it
36:28
in
36:29
a
36:29
way
36:29
that's
36:29
not
36:30
going
36:30
to
36:30
be
36:30
just
36:31
a
36:31
temporary
36:31
thing,
36:32
not
36:32
just
36:32
going
36:33
to
36:33
be
36:33
a
36:33
thing
36:33
where
36:33
folks
36:34
are
36:35
going
36:36
along
36:36
with
36:36
it,
36:36
but
36:36
really
36:37
now
36:37
thinking
36:37
about
36:38
the
36:38
hearts
36:38
and
36:38
minds,
36:39
and
36:39
that's
36:40
where,
36:41
you
36:41
know,
36:41
that
36:42
enduring
36:42
legacy
36:42
of
36:43
shared
36:43
humanity.
36:44
And
36:45
again,
36:45
I.
36:47
I
36:47
would
36:47
be
36:48
very,
36:48
very
36:50
negatively
36:52
impacted
36:53
by
36:53
this.
36:53
But
36:54
thinking
36:55
about
36:56
children,
36:57
that
36:58
feels
36:58
like
36:58
that
36:58
should
36:59
be
36:59
a
36:59
common
36:59
ground.
37:01
We
37:01
all
37:01
want
37:02
our
37:02
children
37:02
to
37:02
succeed
37:03
and
37:03
that
37:03
we
37:03
all
37:03
want
37:04
our
37:04
children
37:04
to
37:04
succeed
37:05
farther
37:06
than
37:06
we
37:06
have,
37:07
that
37:07
we
37:07
all
37:07
want
37:08
to
37:08
see
37:08
them
37:08
embody
37:09
the
37:10
best
37:10
that
37:11
this
37:11
country
37:11
has
37:12
to
37:12
offer
37:12
to
37:12
enjoy
37:13
the
37:13
best
37:13
that
37:13
this
37:14
world
37:14
has
37:14
to
37:14
offer.
37:14
And
37:15
so
37:15
the
37:16
foundational
37:16
pieces
37:16
that
37:16
we
37:17
can
37:17
do
37:17
to
37:17
make
37:17
that
37:17
happen,
37:18
to
37:18
me,
37:19
that
37:19
feels
37:19
essential,
37:19
and
37:20
that
37:20
is
37:20
a
37:20
tangible
37:21
step
37:21
towards
37:22
creating
37:23
a
37:23
more
37:23
ingeniously.
37:25
And.
37:26
And
37:26
yet
37:27
what
37:28
you
37:28
say
37:28
is
37:28
beautiful.
37:29
And
37:29
yet
37:30
there
37:30
are
37:30
forces
37:31
in
37:31
the
37:31
world
37:32
today
37:32
that
37:32
want
37:32
to
37:33
dehumanize.
37:34
Yes.
37:35
Some
37:35
of
37:35
those
37:36
children,
37:37
right?
37:38
Who
37:38
they
37:38
want.
37:39
They.
37:39
They
37:39
want
37:40
to.
37:40
They
37:40
want
37:41
to.
37:42
They
37:42
have
37:43
decided
37:44
that
37:44
some
37:45
of
37:45
those
37:45
children
37:46
do
37:46
not
37:46
matter
37:47
and
37:48
that
37:48
they
37:48
would
37:48
rather
37:49
they
37:49
cease
37:49
to
37:50
exist.
37:51
And
37:51
so
37:51
what's
37:52
been,
37:52
as
37:52
I've
37:52
been
37:53
listening
37:53
to
37:53
all
37:53
of
37:53
you
37:54
talk
37:54
and
37:55
listening
37:55
to
37:55
your
37:55
brilliance,
37:56
Matt,
37:56
and
37:56
I'm
37:56
so
37:57
glad
37:57
you're
37:57
here,
37:59
but
37:59
one
37:59
of
37:59
the
38:00
things
38:00
that
38:00
I
38:00
can't
38:01
let
38:01
go
38:01
of
38:02
is
38:03
this
38:03
idea
38:04
that
38:06
we
38:07
have
38:07
dehumanized.
38:09
Right.
38:09
That
38:10
the
38:10
way
38:10
that
38:10
we
38:11
do
38:11
some
38:11
of
38:12
the
38:12
killing
38:13
dreams
38:14
part
38:14
of
38:15
this
38:15
conversation
38:16
is
38:17
how
38:17
we
38:18
dehumanize
38:19
people.
38:21
So
38:21
then
38:21
it
38:22
justifies
38:23
our
38:24
actions,
38:25
right?
38:25
It
38:25
justifies
38:26
our
38:26
actions.
38:27
And
38:29
so
38:29
that's
38:30
just
38:30
running
38:30
through
38:31
my.
38:31
It's
38:31
just
38:32
running
38:32
through
38:32
my
38:32
head
38:32
today.
38:33
And
38:33
a.
38:33
And
38:34
a
38:34
personal
38:35
example
38:35
from
38:35
this
38:36
weekend
38:36
is
38:36
running
38:36
through
38:37
my
38:37
head
38:38
about
38:39
how
38:39
we
38:39
just
38:40
dehumanize,
38:42
you
38:42
know,
38:43
anyone
38:44
and
38:44
everyone
38:44
that
38:44
we
38:45
want
38:45
to
38:45
in
38:46
order
38:46
to
38:46
justify
38:47
sometimes
38:48
our
38:48
own.
38:48
Our
38:49
own
38:49
behavior
38:49
and
38:49
our
38:50
own
38:50
actions.
38:51
And,
38:51
you
38:51
know,
38:51
that.
38:52
That
38:52
goes
38:52
again,
38:53
to
38:53
that
38:53
point
38:53
of.
38:54
It's
38:54
just
38:55
one
38:55
of
38:55
the
38:55
examples
38:55
of
38:55
how
38:56
folks
38:56
have
38:56
been
38:56
marginalized.
38:56
There's
38:57
so
38:57
many
38:57
different.
38:58
But
38:58
what
38:58
I
38:58
mentioned
38:59
with
38:59
the
38:59
transatlantic
38:59
slave
39:00
trade,
39:00
that
39:00
the
39:01
actual
39:01
justification
39:02
was
39:03
literally
39:03
dehumanization.
39:05
And
39:06
so
39:06
we
39:06
look
39:06
at
39:06
that.
39:07
But
39:07
that's.
39:08
That's
39:08
why
39:08
I
39:08
also
39:08
pointed
39:09
out
39:09
the
39:09
same
39:09
has
39:09
happened
39:10
with
39:11
a
39:11
lot
39:11
of
39:11
different
39:11
groups.
39:12
You
39:12
see
39:12
this
39:12
happen
39:13
with
39:14
indigenous
39:14
folks
39:15
that
39:15
were
39:16
more
39:16
or
39:16
less
39:17
dehumanized.
39:17
So
39:18
the
39:18
same
39:18
thing
39:18
happened.
39:18
Again,
39:19
I
39:19
point
39:19
this
39:19
out,
39:19
how
39:19
it
39:19
happened,
39:20
women,
39:20
there's
39:21
so,
39:21
I
39:21
mean,
39:21
you
39:21
could
39:22
pick
39:22
a
39:22
group
39:22
and
39:22
you
39:22
can
39:22
see
39:23
how
39:23
things
39:24
were
39:24
applied.
39:25
Because
39:27
to
39:28
that
39:28
point,
39:28
looking
39:28
at
39:29
it
39:29
on
39:29
the
39:29
other
39:29
end,
39:31
that
39:31
means
39:31
that
39:32
folks
39:32
can
39:32
understand
39:34
that
39:35
when
39:35
there
39:36
is
39:36
humanity
39:37
present,
39:38
there
39:38
is
39:38
a
39:39
certain
39:39
level
39:40
of
39:40
ethics,
39:40
there's
39:41
a
39:41
certain
39:41
level
39:42
of
39:42
empathy
39:43
that
39:43
is
39:43
simply
39:43
requisite
39:44
for
39:44
those
39:45
interactions.
39:46
And
39:46
so
39:47
that's
39:47
where
39:48
and
39:48
why
39:48
a
39:48
large
39:48
part
39:49
of
39:49
my
39:49
approach
39:49
has
39:50
been
39:50
to
39:51
emphasize
39:52
that
39:52
humanity
39:52
and
39:52
to
39:53
bring
39:53
that
39:53
to
39:53
the
39:53
forefront.
39:54
And
39:54
sometimes
39:55
those
39:55
conversations,
39:55
sometimes
39:56
that's
39:56
an
39:56
easy
39:56
thing.
39:57
Sometimes
39:57
the
39:57
work
39:58
that's
39:58
happening
39:58
on
39:58
the
39:58
macro,
39:59
whether
40:00
it's
40:00
saying,
40:00
okay,
40:01
how
40:01
do
40:01
we
40:02
equip
40:02
the
40:02
staff
40:03
to
40:04
be
40:05
better
40:05
equipped
40:05
to
40:06
handle
40:06
X,
40:06
Y
40:06
and
40:06
Z
40:06
conversations?
40:07
How
40:08
do
40:08
we
40:08
equip
40:08
folks
40:09
to
40:09
be
40:09
able
40:09
to
40:10
understand
40:11
how
40:12
identity
40:12
is
40:12
an
40:13
essential
40:13
component
40:14
of
40:14
existence?
40:15
So
40:16
all
40:16
the
40:16
things
40:16
you
40:16
bring
40:16
to
40:16
the
40:17
table.
40:17
And
40:17
yes,
40:18
for
40:18
the
40:18
workplace,
40:19
of
40:19
course,
40:19
yes,
40:20
for
40:20
learning,
40:20
but
40:21
simply
40:21
for
40:21
existing.
40:22
And
40:22
so
40:23
I
40:23
think
40:23
that
40:24
affirming
40:25
that
40:25
with
40:25
our
40:25
communities
40:26
is
40:26
a
40:26
really
40:26
big
40:26
part.
40:26
And
40:27
that's
40:27
why
40:27
I
40:27
will
40:28
emphasize
40:28
that
40:28
again
40:28
and
40:29
again,
40:29
because
40:30
we
40:30
do
40:31
the
40:31
work
40:31
with
40:31
our
40:31
kids.
40:32
But,
40:32
and
40:32
I'm
40:32
not
40:33
trying
40:33
to
40:33
say
40:33
that,
40:33
hey,
40:34
teachers
40:35
have
40:35
10
40:35
million
40:36
things.
40:36
Here's
40:36
10
40:36
million
40:36
in
40:37
one.
40:37
But
40:37
the
40:38
reality
40:38
is
40:38
that
40:38
our
40:39
kids
40:39
live
40:39
in
40:39
a
40:39
broader
40:40
community.
40:40
Whether
40:41
that
40:41
is
40:41
a
40:41
small
40:42
rural
40:42
community,
40:42
whether
40:43
that
40:43
is
40:43
a
40:43
large.
40:44
In
40:44
a
40:44
large
40:44
city,
40:45
whether
40:45
that
40:45
is
40:45
in
40:46
the
40:46
suburbs,
40:46
they
40:46
are
40:47
part
40:47
of
40:47
a
40:47
broader
40:47
community.
40:48
And
40:49
then
40:49
now
40:49
you
40:49
factor
40:49
in,
40:50
they
40:50
play
40:50
music,
40:50
they
40:51
do
40:51
a
40:51
sport,
40:52
they
40:52
are
40:52
actors,
40:53
they
40:54
are
40:54
engaged
40:55
in
40:55
whatever
40:55
activity,
40:55
they're
40:56
writers.
40:57
There's
40:57
online
40:58
communities
40:58
that
40:58
students
40:59
are
40:59
a
40:59
part
40:59
of.
40:59
And
41:00
so
41:00
the
41:01
reality
41:01
of
41:01
the
41:02
situation,
41:03
even
41:04
notwithstanding
41:05
the
41:05
fact
41:05
that
41:05
there
41:05
are
41:05
folks
41:06
who
41:06
would
41:06
deny
41:06
it,
41:07
the
41:07
reality,
41:08
the
41:08
unquestionable
41:09
truth,
41:09
is
41:10
that
41:10
humanity
41:10
is
41:11
a
41:11
shared
41:11
contract.
41:12
And
41:12
so
41:12
helping
41:13
to
41:13
bring
41:13
folks
41:13
along
41:14
in
41:14
that
41:14
space
41:15
is
41:15
at
41:15
least
41:15
a
41:15
way
41:16
I
41:16
believe
41:16
that
41:17
we
41:17
can
41:17
start
41:17
to
41:17
make.
41:18
Absolutely.
41:19
So
41:21
I
41:21
want
41:22
to
41:22
say
41:22
thank
41:22
you.
41:22
Thank
41:23
you
41:23
for
41:23
joining
41:23
us.
41:25
When
41:25
we
41:26
come
41:26
back
41:27
in
41:27
our
41:27
next
41:28
episode
41:28
for
41:28
our
41:29
season
41:29
finale,
41:30
Matt
41:30
will
41:30
be
41:31
back
41:31
with
41:32
our
41:32
other
41:33
guests
41:33
from
41:33
season
41:33
nine,
41:34
and
41:34
I'm
41:34
super
41:34
excited
41:35
about
41:35
that.
41:36
I
41:36
want
41:36
to
41:37
close
41:37
this
41:37
by.
41:38
I'm
41:38
going
41:38
to
41:38
go
41:39
political
41:39
for
41:39
a
41:40
moment.
41:40
And
41:40
I'm
41:41
going
41:41
to
41:41
ask
41:41
you
41:41
one
41:42
question
41:42
and
41:43
I
41:43
want
41:43
you
41:43
to
41:44
be
41:44
as
41:44
brief
41:45
as
41:45
you
41:45
can
41:45
because
41:46
I
41:47
want
41:47
superintendents
41:47
to.
41:49
I
41:49
want
41:49
them
41:49
to
41:49
remember
41:50
every
41:51
single
41:51
word
41:51
that's
41:51
about
41:52
to
41:52
come
41:52
out
41:52
of
41:52
your
41:52
mouth.
41:53
Okay,
41:53
my
41:54
friend,
41:54
Sounds
41:55
good.
41:55
In
41:56
2025,
41:57
school
41:58
leaders
41:58
are
41:59
being
42:00
asked
42:01
or
42:01
demanded,
42:02
however
42:03
you
42:03
want
42:03
you
42:03
to
42:03
look
42:03
at
42:03
it,
42:04
to
42:05
reject
42:06
anything
42:07
that
42:07
has
42:07
anything
42:08
to
42:08
do
42:08
with
42:09
diversity,
42:10
equity
42:11
and
42:11
inclusion.
42:13
If
42:13
you
42:13
had
42:13
30
42:14
seconds,
42:15
which
42:15
is
42:15
all
42:15
I'm
42:16
going
42:16
to
42:16
give
42:16
you,
42:16
my
42:16
friend,
42:17
to
42:17
speak
42:18
to
42:18
superintendents,
42:21
what
42:21
would
42:21
you
42:21
tell
42:21
them?
42:22
It
42:23
is
42:23
my
42:23
firm
42:24
belief
42:25
that
42:25
our
42:25
number
42:26
one
42:26
objective
42:27
as
42:27
educators
42:28
is
42:28
to
42:29
protect
42:29
students.
42:30
In
42:31
this
42:31
context,
42:31
that
42:32
is,
42:32
this
42:32
translates
42:33
now
42:33
to
42:33
protecting
42:34
their
42:34
psychological
42:35
safety,
42:36
protecting,
42:36
preserving
42:37
their
42:37
dignity
42:38
and
42:38
also
42:38
protecting
42:39
their
42:39
ability
42:39
to
42:40
grow
42:40
up
42:40
and
42:41
to
42:41
be
42:41
folks
42:42
who
42:42
effectuate
42:42
change
42:43
and
42:43
create
42:43
a
42:43
better
42:44
world
42:44
than
42:44
one
42:44
that
42:44
exists.
42:45
By
42:46
stripping
42:46
them
42:47
of
42:47
the
42:47
opportunity
42:47
to
42:48
learn
42:48
with
42:49
and
42:49
about
42:49
diverse
42:50
ranges
42:50
of
42:50
people,
42:51
stripping
42:51
them
42:52
of
42:52
an
42:52
inclusive
42:53
environment,
42:53
and
42:54
taking
42:54
away
42:55
structures
42:55
that
42:55
support
42:56
equity,
42:57
we
42:57
are
42:57
removing
42:58
safety
42:58
from
42:59
our
42:59
schools.
43:00
And
43:00
that,
43:00
my
43:01
friends,
43:01
brings
43:01
us
43:01
to
43:01
the
43:02
end
43:02
of
43:02
this
43:02
episode.
43:03
Please
43:03
come
43:03
back
43:04
next
43:04
week
43:05
and
43:05
hear
43:06
more
43:06
words
43:06
of
43:07
wisdom
43:07
from
43:08
Matthew
43:08
Pinchonot
43:09
and
43:09
our
43:10
other
43:10
guests
43:10
from
43:11
Season
43:11
nine.
43:12
I'll
43:13
see
43:13
you
43:13
next
43:13
week
43:14
in
43:14
the
43:14
Wheelhouse.
43:20
And
43:20
that's
43:20
a
43:21
wrap
43:21
of
43:21
episode
43:21
11
43:22
in
43:22
this
43:22
season
43:23
of
43:23
the
43:23
Wheelhouse.
43:24
A
43:25
special
43:25
thank
43:25
you
43:25
today
43:26
to
43:26
Matthew
43:26
Pinchonot,
43:27
an
43:28
educator
43:28
and
43:28
administrator
43:29
for
43:30
diversity,
43:30
equity
43:31
and
43:31
inclusion
43:32
in
43:32
a
43:32
statewide
43:32
educational
43:33
organization.
43:35
Are
43:35
you
43:35
a
43:35
like
43:35
minded
43:36
educator
43:36
who's
43:37
committed
43:37
to
43:37
promoting
43:38
hope?
43:39
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43:39
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43:46
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43:46
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43:47
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43:47
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43:47
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43:48
the
43:48
love
43:48
of
43:49
learning
43:49
in
43:49
each
43:49
of
43:49
your
43:50
students?
43:50
What
43:51
are
43:51
you
43:51
doing
43:52
to
43:52
build
43:52
community,
43:53
a
43:53
feeling
43:54
and
43:54
set
43:54
of
43:54
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43:56
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43:56
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43:56
you
43:56
inspire
43:57
others
43:57
to
43:57
see
43:58
and
43:58
value
43:58
diversity
43:59
as
44:00
something
44:00
and
44:01
someone
44:02
outside
44:02
of
44:02
yourself?
44:03
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44:04
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44:04
can
44:04
we
44:04
here
44:04
at
44:05
the
44:05
Wheelhouse
44:06
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44:06
you
44:06
reach
44:07
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44:07
aspirational
44:08
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44:08
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44:09
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44:10
We
44:10
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44:10
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44:11
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44:11
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44:11
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44:11
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44:11
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44:12
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44:12
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44:39
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44:40
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44:41
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44:42
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44:43
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