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News to Know: She educating the public about autoimmune diseases and navigating chronic illness. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: social worker, certified critical trauma professional, and passionate advocate for
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  Speaker 1: auto immune disease awareness. As the found of Hopeful Therapy
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  Speaker 1: and Consulting, Tomorrow provides holistic mental health care for individuals
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  Speaker 1: living with autoimmune diseases, emphasizing trauma informed care, stress management,
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  Speaker 1: and emotional wellness, which is all very important. Please welcome
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  Speaker 1: you doing? My friend?
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  Speaker 2: Hello? Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I said a lot. Okay, so let's break it
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  Speaker 1: down to my audience so they can they can hang
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  Speaker 1: in there with us. Okay, First, well, let's start with
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  Speaker 1: autoimmune diseases, What exactly is that? Sure?
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  Speaker 2: So, autoimmune disease is when the body mistakes healthy cells
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  Speaker 2: for invaders and begins to fight itself. And so some
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  Speaker 2: of the popular ones that we know about are like lupus.
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  Speaker 2: You hear about rheumatoid arthritis, multiple carosis, are as it's
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  Speaker 2: recurred determined as ms, you know. So those are some
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  Speaker 2: of the kind of ones, even chrones. Right, these are
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  Speaker 2: some of the ones that we hear about often, but
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  Speaker 2: in actuality they're over eighty autoimmune diseases.
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  Speaker 1: Autoimmune How did you get into this line of thought
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  Speaker 1: process or care.
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  Speaker 2: Let me first say I've been a mental health professional
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  Speaker 2: for over two decades, right, and so in the process
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  Speaker 2: of you know, me working with families sometimes individuals, I've
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  Speaker 2: worked with people who have dealt with chronic illness, not
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  Speaker 2: even specifically auto on mute, but auto mune was sometimes
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  Speaker 2: part of it, right. And so as far as how
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  Speaker 2: I get to where I am today, during the lockdown,
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  Speaker 2: I was again still weren't working as a mental health professional,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, proliferated we know COVID and all of
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  Speaker 2: those things. But equally alongside with that, I was dealing
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  Speaker 2: with some symptoms that I had started exploring even before
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  Speaker 2: the lockdown. It wasn't into that following like November, that
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  Speaker 2: I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. So it came from
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  Speaker 2: a very personal place. And when I was diagnosed, we
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  Speaker 2: also there was no one to really reach out to
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  Speaker 2: because everything was shut down, like literally right, And so
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  Speaker 2: I will say in my personal journey, the work that
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  Speaker 2: I had already been doing with individuals throughout the span
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  Speaker 2: of my career informed how I was able to respond
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  Speaker 2: in even kind of my next steps.
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  Speaker 1: Now I know you're not a doctor, you know, no, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: little something, because I got to ask exactly what some
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  Speaker 1: of these symptoms are, so it can help me be educated.
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  Speaker 1: Because first let's start with something that is personally attacking
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  Speaker 1: your body. Rumatall? Do you said rumatoid? Or what exactly
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  Speaker 1: is that?
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  Speaker 2: So just think inflammation when we're talking about on our
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  Speaker 2: immune disease across the board, just think of always inflammation
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  Speaker 2: as part of it, right, And so like your body,
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  Speaker 2: there's different organs or systems are in your body where
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  Speaker 2: inflammation is stored. Right, So it far as far as
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  Speaker 2: ouray is concerned, I deal with chronic inflammation. And for
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  Speaker 2: me in my personal journey, because again each person is different.
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  Speaker 2: Just like you said, my initial symptoms was my hands
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  Speaker 2: were sticking. I literally at times in the morning, I
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  Speaker 2: will wake up and couldn't open my hands, or it
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  Speaker 2: took a lot of force opening my hands for instance. Also,
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  Speaker 2: something that is really common across the board with autoimmune
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  Speaker 2: disease is fatigue. And I'm not talking about a little tired.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the push through I'll get through it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tired. This is like literally almost like a narc
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  Speaker 2: knock or elepsy, where like the body literally shuts down
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  Speaker 2: without warning. You can't even pretend to try to stay up.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the last five years has been
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  Speaker 1: incredible as far as awareness, especially in the when mental
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  Speaker 1: health area, especially in the African American community or community
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  Speaker 1: of color, which has always been in denial or didn't
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  Speaker 1: have the information or the train or lanes where you
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  Speaker 1: could go if you had issues, and COVID exposed that
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  Speaker 1: to all of us, and I think there was a
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  Speaker 1: willingness to be able to seek help. I know personally
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  Speaker 1: I'm dealing. I'm doing some virtual therapy with stress, trying
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  Speaker 1: to get my life back down to normal because it's
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  Speaker 1: never been normal. You know, I've always bragged about my
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  Speaker 1: stressful life. I almost was a champion because of it.
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  Speaker 1: But something's not right. You got to have time for yourself. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: anybody's listening. Something that has to be done so you
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  Speaker 1: can have a calm, normal, everyday life. With that being said,
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  Speaker 1: Black people, that's me. Do we get it now or
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  Speaker 1: we're still struggling to get there tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I think with everything that is happening in our society,
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  Speaker 2: people expect us to just sit back and almost like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: well we're gonna hint, We're just gonna take it right.
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  Speaker 2: But what we've seen you mentioned the last five years,
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  Speaker 2: even when if we think back to the shutdown where
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  Speaker 2: people came out of their houses and was protesting, like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're not gonna have it. You're not gonna be whipping
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  Speaker 2: on us. You're not gonna be shooting our children down,
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  Speaker 2: our husband's, our brothers, uncles, et cetera, right, our daughter's nieces, etc.
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  Speaker 2: And so much is happening, yes, and I think we
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  Speaker 2: are getting it. I think no, have we arrived now?
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  Speaker 2: And there's still such stigma. But in my work, I
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  Speaker 2: see I work with a lot of us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and when I say us, it can be black or
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  Speaker 2: it could be another person of color. Absolutely, people are
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  Speaker 2: showing up. More people are understanding it's okay not to
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  Speaker 2: be okay, And I think equally it helps when they're
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  Speaker 2: opposite someone that looks like him.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just update everybody who we're talking to. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking tomorrow. R Jackson. She's a licensed clinical social worker
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  Speaker 1: and certified clinical trauma professional with a deep passion for
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  Speaker 1: autoimmune disease awareness. Now, well, we when I asked at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, she said lupa's rheumatad arthritis,
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  Speaker 1: which she is. In fact, I have a personal crisis
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  Speaker 1: and she deals with MS. And but she said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Sir Richel, despite the grower preference of these autoimmune diseases
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  Speaker 1: are underrepresented, underrepresented mainstream health discussion. Is that what you're saying?
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  Speaker 2: So yes, right, kind of like the usual suspects of
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  Speaker 2: autoimmune diseases, we're very familiar, we're very familiar with. But
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  Speaker 2: when it really comes down to education, I would ask you,
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  Speaker 2: what do you really know about rheumatoid arthritis? What do
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  Speaker 2: you really know about lupus and how it shows up? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And the limited and even more than how it shows
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  Speaker 2: up the limitations. Right. So this is kind of where
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  Speaker 2: I work with client and individuals about right, because now
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  Speaker 2: I can't show up the same and you as my
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  Speaker 2: friend or you as my partner may be empathetic and
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  Speaker 2: know my status or whatever situation is, but you don't
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  Speaker 2: even know how to help me sometimes from day to day.
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  Speaker 2: To know to live with a chronic illness, all all
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  Speaker 2: immune or otherwise is to know that from day to day,
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, you're not gonna know what that
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  Speaker 2: next day is going to bring. So there's good days
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  Speaker 2: and there's bad days, and there's days that you got
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  Speaker 2: it and it feels like you can run the world
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  Speaker 2: like the back the old days, but there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of days that you just can't. You just can't, mister McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: If so, if a friend of yours say they're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with something, asked what they're dealing with and how is
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  Speaker 1: impact in their lives so you can be there for them.
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  Speaker 1: That's the step, Pardicatar. Don't just walk away thinking you understand,
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  Speaker 1: because my simple thing is the word arthritis has been
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  Speaker 1: around my vocabulary the most. You know, talk about your
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  Speaker 1: knuckles and your knees, you know, creaking. You know, nobody
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  Speaker 1: wants to deal with any formal authoritis as you get old.
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  Speaker 1: But then you tell me rumatald author brush. I can't
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  Speaker 1: open my hands sometimes, you know, wow, I.
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  Speaker 2: Can't even open this. Times I couldn't even open my door.
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  Speaker 2: You know how you press down? If you do the
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  Speaker 2: press down, I couldn't even open my door.
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  Speaker 1: I had to go to pt So with that being said, mentally,
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  Speaker 1: that's where you come in and you help right absolutely
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  Speaker 1: walking through the steps, walking through some of those steps.
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  Speaker 2: I say the biggest part of my job is active
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  Speaker 2: listening because if I don't listen, I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: what questions. And usually I'm a person of questions, right
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  Speaker 2: because my my remedy is not gonna help you, right,
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  Speaker 2: even if a person has already like me, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: show up differently. So I just have to make safe
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  Speaker 2: space for you to explore the possibilities. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's that's the biggest thing that I can say, The
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  Speaker 2: biggest gift that I have been able to do in
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  Speaker 2: my work is create safe space for people to understand
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  Speaker 2: that we can put a semicolonto this diagnosis as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to a period because when we get these news, right,
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  Speaker 2: when we get the name to the situation, it's such
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  Speaker 2: so matter of fact. And as you said, fifty million
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  Speaker 2: people are affected with autoimmune diseases, right, And it's almost
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  Speaker 2: like the doctor that gives you the news is reducing
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  Speaker 2: you to a statistic. But I'm not a statistic and
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  Speaker 2: I still need to now figure out how I show
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  Speaker 2: up in my own life, right, what does this mean?
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  Speaker 2: You know? How what does the alterations that I need
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  Speaker 2: to have mean for me? And that's usually not the
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  Speaker 2: conversations that you get with doctors. Honestly, that becomes with
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  Speaker 2: your own research, that comes with you know, working with
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  Speaker 2: a therapist or you know, are having a confidant that
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  Speaker 2: gives you again safe space. I know I keep saying that,
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  Speaker 2: but safety is very important because so much is going
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  Speaker 2: on of what can bubble up when you hear this
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  Speaker 2: diagnosis and what people associated to me tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Like I stated several times in the show, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep stating it because you need to understand we're
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  Speaker 1: talking to a professional. She's a licensed clinical social worker
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  Speaker 1: worker and certified clinical trauma professional with a deep passion
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  Speaker 1: for auto mune autoimmune disease awareness. Now this conversation is
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  Speaker 1: leaning more to empowering the community through conversation because and
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  Speaker 1: education and education. Now you let's let's let's let's get
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  Speaker 1: even deeper into tomorrow. You had an award winning documentary. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: how can we Is it on YouTube or can we
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  Speaker 1: access that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually on Vimeo. You can actually if you
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  Speaker 2: go to Vimeo and you put in the invitation that
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  Speaker 2: is the name of it, it should come up and
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  Speaker 2: it gives you opportunity to rent it. No one can
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  Speaker 2: can buy it. But because I'm still doing screenings, and
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  Speaker 2: I do screenings whereas I do talkbacks and education, and
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  Speaker 2: even there's a version of it where I will bring
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  Speaker 2: a chef along and we'll will have you sampling food
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  Speaker 2: because food is medicined. And yes, sometimes we have to
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  Speaker 2: use medication, and I do use medication. But everybody that
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  Speaker 2: is featured in the documentary also has incorporated what I
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  Speaker 2: call lifestyle management, making intentional decisions whereas we can thrive
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  Speaker 2: in spite of having whatever autoimmune disease that is, and
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  Speaker 2: for a number of us, that includes food for a
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  Speaker 2: number of us, that includes how you know what we
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  Speaker 2: say yes to and what we say no to is
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  Speaker 2: very is moving with extreme intentionality.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying, Rajan is on vimeo. My award winning
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  Speaker 1: documentary is on Vimeo. Just go to Vimeo in this
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  Speaker 1: search bar, type in the invitation and one can rent that.
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  Speaker 2: This is a that is correct, or you can go
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  Speaker 2: to IG. Here's another like, sure she's fired up now
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  Speaker 2: she finally got to act together. Well, yeah, because if
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  Speaker 2: we go through social media, there's a couple of ways
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  Speaker 2: that you can do it. So do the meal, but
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  Speaker 2: also on IG there's an impact campaign because it's all
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  Speaker 2: about awareness, like you had said in education. So there's
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  Speaker 2: an impact campaign page that I have created for the film,
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  Speaker 2: and it's called the Invitation Documentary and that link also
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  Speaker 2: even attached all over that. All over that page you
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  Speaker 2: will have different resources, inspiration testimonials, you know. All of
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  Speaker 2: that is on that page. But in the in the
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  Speaker 2: profile is a link and it has doing the link tree.
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  Speaker 2: It has where you can go hit and rent the video.
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  Speaker 2: Also my website Hopeful Therapy and Consulting or even tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: r Jackson dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, y'all have a lot now, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm letting you get your worried out because we got to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. This episode is about education, It's about
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  Speaker 1: pushing us beyond. Oh yeah, yeah, I got you, I
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  Speaker 1: got you. I got you because one of the most
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  Speaker 1: compelling things you mentioned on this show is that autoimmune disease.
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  Speaker 1: You can be great on Tuesday, be bad on Wednesday. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: you can be great on Monday, Tuesday, window, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and band on Saturday. You can't make the party or
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  Speaker 1: you can't make the wedd right and I can't get
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  Speaker 1: up and go to work on Monday morning. And what
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  Speaker 1: happens in that old situation is the word embarrassment. Not
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  Speaker 1: wanting to tell people what's going on in your personal life,
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  Speaker 1: not wanting to feel like baggage. You don't want to
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  Speaker 1: walk in a room with people staring at you. If
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  Speaker 1: you stumble I'm all you know, because you know how
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  Speaker 1: people are. If they don't understand something you cough, they
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  Speaker 1: think it's contagious even though it's not contagious. So something
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier is the word diet, because that's so
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  Speaker 1: important what you eating, how you eat. Let's stick with
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  Speaker 1: you because you know you're my personal subject matter expert.
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  Speaker 1: You have ari As she's shouting it to me. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, like, I know what I'm talking about, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: No, go ahead, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. What did your did change? And what
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  Speaker 1: did you do? Did you fight your diet change or
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  Speaker 1: how did did y'all die change? For you?
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  Speaker 2: When I when we say diet here, we're not talking
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  Speaker 2: about of latest trend, you know. No, we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: a lifestyle change. And really what that looks like is
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  Speaker 2: an anti inflammatory diet. For me, I was already plant based, right,
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't have to It wasn't too much pivoting,
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  Speaker 2: not saying that a person has to be plant based
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  Speaker 2: on an ANSI inflammatory diet. Well, what it does include
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  Speaker 2: is making sure you're eating wild caught foods like wild
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  Speaker 2: caught salmon. I think Macro was on the list year.
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  Speaker 2: It was like those white fish, right, and salmon equally,
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  Speaker 2: it's the wild gain as far as meats, so it's
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  Speaker 2: not beef, but it's like buffalo and absolutely so anything
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  Speaker 2: that you ingest, it's not promoting more inflammation. Remember I
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  Speaker 2: said at the beginning, will all auto I mean disease,
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  Speaker 2: you know that. Excuse me? Inflammation is involved, right, So
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  Speaker 2: any means necessary. We're trying to reduce inflammation. So that's
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  Speaker 2: reducing sugar. Now here is where there's some nuance, right, So,
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  Speaker 2: and where it becomes particular me as a person with
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  Speaker 2: RA it's okay for me to eat avocados. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: use avocados because I avocados, by the way, exactly, I
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  Speaker 2: love avocados. It's a healthy fat. Right. However, one of
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  Speaker 2: the participants in my film who has lupis nephritis, which
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  Speaker 2: means the lupis attacks her kidneys and she's on dialysis, right,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, there's extreme dialys yeah yeah, and so she
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  Speaker 2: can't have avocados. So she has a very specialized diet
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  Speaker 2: and it also is anti inflammatory. But there's things that
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  Speaker 2: she can't eat. She can eat, like a halo arnt,
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  Speaker 2: like the little clementine, but she can't have an actual orange.
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  Speaker 2: So it's the It's also not only what you eat,
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  Speaker 2: but the makeup of what you eat, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're a meat eater, it definitely means wild court.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely means more chicken turkey type of thing. Again,
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  Speaker 2: is that wild court. You don't want the farm raised stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It is more of the wilder games meats, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: like elk and things in buffalo and things so that
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  Speaker 2: things of that nature.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know when I talk about you know, I
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  Speaker 1: try to personalize some of that stuff so people can
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  Speaker 1: understand that. You know, I'm engaged in the whole process
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  Speaker 1: because as you get older, you're dying has to change
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  Speaker 1: because you're trying to you know, you you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: not in the rush to get to the finish line.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to. I'm trying to push that
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  Speaker 1: gold post, as I say, move a gold post. Roshall
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  Speaker 1: wasn't moving those gold posts at twenty. Now I'm pushing
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  Speaker 1: that gold post as far out the one't even want
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  Speaker 1: to see it tomorrow now. So when you start getting
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  Speaker 1: these symptoms, let's talk about your business that you've developed
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  Speaker 1: and how people get in touch with you because again,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes we can blow off what really is an auto
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  Speaker 1: immune issue that you're dealing with, but we don't. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people google stuff AI stuff because technology is
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  Speaker 1: really proving to be a bad doctor now because it
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  Speaker 1: talks back to you. It talks back to you, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it used to be just you Google and
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  Speaker 1: you just read. Now, oh you have this time I
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  Speaker 1: go home and do that, you know, and that's not
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  Speaker 1: good because you actually think somebody's talking to you. And
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  Speaker 1: that's not fair because voices nowadays don't sound like computers
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  Speaker 1: like they used to. They sound like human beings are
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  Speaker 1: talking back to you. Now when you're dealing with this
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: new technology tomorrow, does that scare you?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't scare me. Let me be fair. I
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: don't use it, and you googling symptoms will have you
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: thinking you have everything. So let me simplify in saying this.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: If you are experiencing discomfort in your body, whatever that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: means for you, please go see a doctor. It's in
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: particular you're dealing with chronic fatigue like I was saying, handsticking,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: or you're dealing with kind of like that irritoboo type
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of thing that may be like crones or colitis or
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you know, are something in that you need to see
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a professional. So for anything dealing with the GI track,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a gastro entrologist, right For a person
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: like myself, whether it's ara psoriasis, even lupists right, Really,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a rheumatologists can diagnose all of this. They do this
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: whole panel and they're able to omit what's not happening
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and they're able to identify what actually is happening. So
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I would say, and usually these these are additional referrals
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that you got to get from your primary But equally
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I'll say this is that if your doctor is not
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: listening to you about your symptoms, that is not your doctor.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Change your doctor. So I also want to empower people
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to know that you know, whoever they're being working with,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: that is not the end all to be all. If
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: they're not answering your questions, if they're not respecting your person,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: if they're treating you just like a statistic or diagnosis,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: then it's time to start exploring where you can develop
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a treatment team, because you need a treatment team with this,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: there's no magic in it. Just like I say, we
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: need doctors, you need a mental health professional. You know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I I just have to say it. Your friend will
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: be well intentioned, your family member well intentioned, but you're
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: gonna wind up getting annoyed because they're not equipped. They
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: don't have the tools to help you navigate this diagnosis
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and the nuances of it. They just don't It doesn't
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: mean that they don't love you, they don't care, they're
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: not concerned, they just don't have it. So to avoid
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you getting upset and them getting upset, there's already gonna
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: be strains in relationships. So let me also say that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. I don't want to overtalk, but I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: just want to manage expectations. There's always, there's always with
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: chronic illness, you're going to deal with changes and dynamics
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: in relationships, both intimate and friendship, and otherwise it is
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: no way else that it can happen. And I tell
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you this, you can't fight for your life and fight people.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: So it's just one of the other things that's gonna
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: become part of your grief process. Know that grieving is okay,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it is actually healthy, but have support in that process. Girl,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I know I said a lot, well you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Know you said all the right things. I was kind
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of like going there when I was just talking about
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: how they're going to be changes tied to the other. Life, embarrassment,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not want to acknowledge everything going on. You're in a
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: relationship that you're excited about, you want to don't want
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to acknowledge, and sometimes you go, I'm not making an
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: excusees why you don't want to be seen that day
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because you don't want that person to see you uncomfortable
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and watching them react to you being uncomfortable. Truth is
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: when you've got an auto immune disease. And I'm talking
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to Tomorrow. She's a full named Tomorrow R. Jackson. She's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a licensed clinical social worker. She's an award winning documentary.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It's called The Invitation. You can go to Vimeo, type
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: in the search line. The Invitation pops right up. You
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: can rent it there and it talks about things that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you've heard about. You know. Our a is what she's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: dealing with. Personal rheumatad arthritis. Have friends, a couple of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: friends who have lupus, And I can tell you this.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm aware of the name. I don't know their symptoms,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: which is not good because guess what I've called them
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: My friend, I should know more because they're a crisis.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I should understand what exactly those symptoms look like so
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I could be there for them. But again, when you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: we all know the number one thing we do is
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: avoid information. We don't want to be engaged in information.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to walk into a dark room. What we
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: do we turn on the light. So nobody wants to
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: walk into a situation where they are confused because there's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: no life switch to turn on. You got to sit
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: there and hear that person, and then you have to
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: make a decision is this something I want to be
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: engaged with on a regular basis. And that's what people
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: with autoimmune disease, all fifty million plus of them are
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: dealing with, dealing with a mental world of acceptance. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: so that's my soapbox moment because I feel that when
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I put together this show, but people go, why are
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you talking about this? Well, guess what. There are people
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: out there that the number fifty million, That means you know, somebody,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: this is money making conversations. Money making conversations that if
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: they suffer, it's going to impact you. They might not
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: go to work, they might not buy something, they might
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it might be a key person to engage in your
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: life that you don't even know what bottom line is Tomorrow,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: how do we get in touch with you, my.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Friend Tomorrow Jackson dot com. Okay, everything that you need
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: will be there. You will find the documentary. Naturally, you'll
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: find more than one, even though this is the one
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: on autoimmune disease. You will find a one sheet that
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I created part of the Impact campaign on autoimmune disease,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: where you will get tips and the resources when if
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you've been newly diagnosed and you know even how you support,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: if you want to book me and you want to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: book a screening and have me have a talk back
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: or conversation or even you know, we have a tasting
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: attached to it, right because people always think changing food
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: means nasty, and I promise you it's not our tasteless.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: That is how you that is how you can get
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: in touch with me. We're gonna just simplify it Tomorrowarjackson
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: dot com.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Love it Tomorrow. Thank you for coming on my show.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I truly truly
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Especially this is so important because it is
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: mental Health Awareness Month and also on the twentieth is
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: auto inflammatory ausritus Day. So for all of those things
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: and more, not that we need especially month or day
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: to bring up these lift up these things. Thank you
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess what, I don't care about the days
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm educating people that the day starts today, the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: day starts to do so the day starts to September.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And I based the show on education and information and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you've educated me. I'm telling you. So that means you're
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: winning because you because you supplied the right information to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: make sure that guests were shaying. You have a large soapbox,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: your big bullhorn.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: The more people to hear this story could save lives
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and relationships, by the way, because like.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You said, that's the biggest thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: So thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: My friend, Thank you so much.
• 27:25
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• 27:29
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