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BONUS: Shocking Moments From Harris/Trump Debate + Taylor Swift Endorses Abortion · The Lila Rose Show

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Lila Rose
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Podcast. Thanks everybody for joining.
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We're here doing another YouTube Live Today.
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Yesterday was the first. Last night was the first
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presidential debate President Donald Trump, former President
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Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris faced off.
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We're going to actually watch a key part of that debate, which
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is worthy of all of our focus. There's so much that they talked
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about and debated about. And these are crucial issues for
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the American people because this has to do with life or death for
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our weakest brothers and sisters in the womb, unborn children.
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So we're going to watch that. We're also going to talk about a
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huge announcement coming out of coming via, I think Instagram,
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Taylor Swift endorsed Ala Harris for president and why she did
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that and more. All right, before we dive in,
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we're actually going to watch some of the debate together.
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There's some really big lies that we're told, complete lies
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that were just given without being fact checked by any
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moderators. They weren't even being fact
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checked by the other candidate. They were just lies being told.
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So we need to unpack those lies. And then of course, there was a
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lot of debate about what abortion stances each candidate
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order. All right, everyone knew that
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there was going to be a fiery debate.
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I think there's a lot of commentary about people saying
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that they felt that there was a lack of performance, quite
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frankly, from both candidates, A lot of people critical of
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Trump's performance and a lot of people critical of Kamala's
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performance. My job right now is to go
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through the part of the debate that they talked about what I
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believe is the most important issue.
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There are a lot of issues discussed, but there was a full
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10 minutes of the debate that was that was used to discuss
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abortion. And so we're going to listen to
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that part of the debate together because there were some key lies
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that were told that underpin the entire Kamala Harris campaign.
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And then there were some concessions that President Trump
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made that I think actually hurt his entire campaign.
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So we're going to look at this crucial 10 minutes during the
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presidential debate last night. I want to turn to the issue of
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abortion. President Trump, you've often
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touted that you were able to kill Roe V Wade.
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Last year you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life
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president in American history. Then last month you said that
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your administration would be great for women and their
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reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida,
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you surprised many with regard to your six week abortion ban
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because you initially had said that it was too short.
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And you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that we need more
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than six weeks. But then the very next day you
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reverse course and said you would vote to support the six
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week ban. Vice President Harris says that
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women shouldn't trust you on the issue of of abortion because
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you've changed your position so many times.
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OK, let's pause here. Why should they try?
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Let's pause here. OK, So this is Lindsey Davis.
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She's one of the moderators of the debate from last night.
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And she is, you know, throughout the debate, she had a lot of
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slanted questions that seemed to favor Kamala Harris.
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It seems that that's the clear bias of the moderators in this
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debate. That wasn't just my opinion.
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Tons of people were weighing in and saying that.
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And people on both sides that basically Kamala Harris had the
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upper hand in this debate and the moderators helped her have
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it. That set aside for a moment.
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Lindsey Davis is asking this question of President Trump,
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saying, listen, you've changed your position now recently on
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this set multiple times. And then she goes to say, well,
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that's why Kamala Harris says you're not to be trusted.
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Listen, if you are as a politician, have the wrong
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position on abortion, you're for abortion and then you become
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pro-life, that actually shows that you are to be trusted
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because you're willing to reject what the culture and so many
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politicians are promoting, the killing of babies and you're
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willing to instead fight for them.
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So the idea that if you change your position as a politician,
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that means you can't be trusted, I don't think that is the case.
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It depends on obviously the circumstances.
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If you in the past have campaigned on something and then
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you lie and then you mislead people and you do another, you
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do something different, that of course can be a reason for
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people to distrust you. But if you instead have an
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evolution on something where you used to be pro-choice because
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that's what everyone was, you thought that was the right thing
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and then you had an aha moment and realized abortion kills
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babies, then that is a good step forward.
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So what actually happened though?
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And what is Lindsey Davis, the moderator referring to with
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President Trump? We have been talking about this
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one, the podcast now for the last few weeks and it was I
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think because of your voices that were made that were that
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were heard I think by the Trump campaign.
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President Trump has now been coming back around more to the
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pro-life side than he has in the past.
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What I mean by that is this just in the last few weeks, President
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Trump had came out in support of abortion pills through JD Vance.
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These kill 60% of babies in this country.
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President Trump was coming out saying that he thinks that the
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heartbeat law in Florida did not allow for enough abortions.
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But then after a lot of outcry from people like you, he did
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come out and say that he opposed Amendment 4 in Florida, which is
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a radical pro abortion law that would permit abortion through
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all nine months of pregnancy. So Lindsey Davis is right about
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one thing here as the moderator that President Trump has been
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flip flopping on on this issue. Let's see what he responds with.
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Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as
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you know, the vote is they have abortion in the ninth month.
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They even have. And you can look at the governor
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of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not
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the current governor is doing an excellent job.
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But the governor before he said the baby will be born and we
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will decide what to do with the baby.
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In other words, we'll execute the baby.
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And that's why I did that, because that predominates,
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because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in
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that. And her vice presidential pick,
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which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our
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country because he is really out of it.
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But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month
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is absolutely fine. He also says execution after
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birth. It's execution no longer
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abortion because the baby is born is OK.
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Right. I think it's important many
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people didn't know this reference that Trump was
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President Trump was making at first, but he's talking about
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Governor Northam, the former governor of Virginia when he
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said that he would basically let the baby be executed after
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birth. Who is he talking about?
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He's talking about a former Virginia governor who made these
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comments publicly. He said this.
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He said when we talk, and this is a governor of a former
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governor of Virginia, He said when we talk about third
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trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of
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obviously the mother, with the consent of the physician, more
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than one physician by the way. And it's done in cases where
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there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that's non
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viable. And then he's asked, well, what
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would happen if the baby survives the abortion attempt in
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your state? And then he responds and says,
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if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would
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happen. The infant would be delivered.
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The infant would be kept comfortable.
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The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and
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the family desired. And then the discussion would
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ensue between the physicians and the mother.
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All of that is language for this.
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If a baby survives an abortion attempt or is delivered alive,
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it is up to the doctor and the woman and the family to decide
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if the baby gets to live. After the baby has survived an
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abortion attempt or been born, it says the infant would be kept
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comfortable. We're going to get into this
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more in the podcast in a few minutes.
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But there is this language of comfort care, keep the baby
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comfortable, which is really a euphemism for let the baby die
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of either suffocation, hunger or neglect alone on a usually a
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steel operating table in a backroom in the hospital.
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And that's what is called infanticide.
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And that's what's being done in states like Minnesota right now
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after failed abortion attempts, where if the baby's not wanted,
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then they don't have to resuscitate or give special care
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to make sure the baby can breathe and can eat and can be
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warm and kept kept, kept actually alive and said the baby
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is literally left alone to die. That is called infanticide, my
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friends. That's what President Trump is
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referring to here. And that's what Governor Northam
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was defending with all his euphemistic language about will
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keep the baby, the infant comfortable.
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OK, we can keep watching him. For 52 years they've been trying
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to get Roe V. Wade into the States and through
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the genius and and heart and strength of six Supreme Court
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justices, we were able to do that.
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Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the
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mother. I believe strongly and it Ronald
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Reagan did also 85% of Republicans do exceptions, very
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important. But we were able to get it and
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now states are voting on it. And for the first time, you're
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going to see, look, this is an issue that's torn our country
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apart for 52 years. Every legal scholar, every
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Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all
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wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the
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people could vote. So this has been President
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Trump's position here, and this is where we have to push back.
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He's saying, OK, it's up to the states.
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We just have to let it to the states.
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Everybody wanted it in the states all along.
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That's what we've done. This is tearing the country
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apart. Just let the states decide, my
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friends. No one has the right to decide
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whether a baby lives or dies. Abortion is already
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unconstitutional. The 14th Amendment in our
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Constitution says that no state has the right to deprive any
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person of life without due process.
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No state has the right to decide that abortion can be legal in
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their state. That is actually
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unconstitutional. It's a violation of the
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fundamental human rights of those babies.
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So just like slavery was ultimately against the human
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rights of those that were enslaved, it was not up for the
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states. It should not have been up for
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the states to decide. And yet they said, well, we want
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to decide. We want slavery.
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And of course, in the end, they said no.
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That cannot stand. And that needs to be the
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position. That is the position of justice
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here, to say, no, just because you're California doesn't mean
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that you get to allow babies to be killed through all nine
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months of pregnancy in Florida. You shouldn't be permitting
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abortions in the first trimester.
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Pregnancy and abortion is the intentional killing of an
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innocent child. It's human sacrifice.
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We need to oppose it loudly. And so this idea that will
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Republicans and Democrats all agree, just let the states
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decide. That's not true.
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There are actually thousands and I I talk with a lot of these
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lawmakers of politicians and then and and certainly millions
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of Republicans who believe that abortions always wrong and it's
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not OK to vote to permit some abortions.
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That's not like you're right in the democratic process to decide
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that a group of innocent people live or die.
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You see what comes before the democratic process, the issues
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that we get to contend with and vote on as Americans, they need
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to be issues that are within our purview, that are actually
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within our jurisdiction. And the reality is no state
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again, and no individual has the right to decide that an innocent
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human being is killed without any sort of due process.
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If there's due process and they're innocent, then they
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won't be killed, right? But that's not what happens in
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an abortion. In an abortion, a child is
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innocent. A child who's helpless is killed
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because of the wishes of a so-called doctor and abortionist
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and a mother or a coerced mother, a father, whatever it
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is. And that's an injustice and it's
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a violation of our Constitution. So it's so important that we
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clear this up because let me tell you friends, for those that
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are fighting for life with me, we are never going to win the
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fight against the killing of preborn children.
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If we buy the lie that it's OK for the states to legalize
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abortion if they want to, we are not going to win this fight.
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We are going to continue to have the mass slaughter of our most
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vulnerable if we buy this idea that states have the right to
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permit abortion. States do not have that right.
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So let's keep listening. But I think that's very
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important that we clear this up because unfortunately, President
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Trump has been pushing this narrative that the overturning
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of Roe V. Wade is the end.
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It's the end game of the pearlife movement.
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Now abortion is in the states. And therefore, you know, be
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happy and and vote for me for president, right?
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It's the beginning. It's the beginning because now
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states no longer have to deal with an unjust Supreme Court
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decision in protecting life. But the states that are failing
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to protect life, those states are violating our Constitution.
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That is the reality. And that's what we need to be
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saying boldly and loudly, in and out, in and out of season,
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wherever we go. And that needs to be what
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informs how we choose our candidates, our political
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leaders in the future. All right, let's keep listening.
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Ohio, the vote was somewhat liberal.
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KS, the vote was somewhat liberal, much more liberal than
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people would have thought. But each individual state is
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voting. It's the vote of the people now.
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It's not tied up in the federal government.
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I did a great service in doing it.
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It took courage to do it, and the Supreme Court had great
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courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to
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those six justices. Just a note here, I know
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President Trump here wants to be seen as the protagonist and the
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hero of the movement because, you know, it took great courage
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for for me to appoint these justices to overturn Roe V Wade.
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And the reality is the whole conservative movement was
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working to create this list, the short list of the justices that
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would be decent justices, right? Better than, you know, hardcore
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pro abortion justices. But the reality is, again, the
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overturning of Roe V. Wade wasn't some positive action
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in terms of enshrining in the Supreme Court decision that
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these babies have a right to life as our Constitution
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promises. It was merely undoing the damage
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of Roe, which prevented states from doing protections.
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Overturning Roe V Wade doesn't mean that now there's a mandate
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that states have to permit abortion if that's what they
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want. Again, let me say this again,
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it's so important. The over ruling of Roe V Wade,
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Dobs V. Jackson, was not a mandate to
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say that states have the right to kill babies if that's what
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they choose. And that is the
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misrepresentation here of not only Dobs V.
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Jackson It's a misrepresentation of the goals of the pro-life
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movement and even of what it means to be pro-life.
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What it means to be pro-life is not to say, well, some states
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can have slavery and some states need to be free.
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Some states can have abortion. Some states won't have it.
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What it means to be pro-life is to say every baby deserves to
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live. I don't care if you're in
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California, New York or Florida, Texas.
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I don't care where you are. You have a constitutional right
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to life and it's the responsibility of local
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governments, your state government and the federal
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government all together to work towards protecting your
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fundamental right to life. That is the end game politically
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of the Prolink movement is enshrining those rights at every
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level of government, not just at the state or local level, at the
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federal level. Because children are at risk
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everywhere across this country, and we need legal protections
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for them built into our law, built into our legal system
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everywhere. OK, let's keep listening to
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Kamala's response now. Madam Vice President, want to
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get your response to President Trump?
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Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies, and that's
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not actually a surprising fact. Let's understand how we got
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here. Donald Trump hand selected three
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members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention
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that they would undo the protections of Roe V.
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Wade. And they did exactly as he
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intended. And now in over 20 states, there
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are Trump abortion bans which may have criminal.
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It says that she she's accusing President Trump of lying and
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she's immediately going into lying herself saying that overdo
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the protections of these states, That's what Roe V Wade would do,
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would undo the protections. What is she talking about?
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She's not talking about protections in any meaningful
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sense of the word protection. She's she's talking about the
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lack of protection. She's talking about states that
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in fact were forced to permit abortion, like the state of
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Texas, They wanted to ban abortion.
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They were not allowed to ban abortion in their state because
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Roe V Wade said that abortion is the federal law.
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It's the law of the land effectively is what Roe V Wade
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did. So she's a, she's
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misrepresenting Roe V Wade here, of course, because she's very
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pro abortion Kamala Harris. But now she's going on to talk
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about what she's calling Trump abortion bans, which is also a
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lie. Because the reality is the the
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abortion bans that exist in this country have nothing to do with
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President Trump or his name on them.
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It has to do with the fact that there are thankfully millions of
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people who recognize that abortion kills a baby and it's
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it's wrong and it should be banned.
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And so they have elected representatives, they've elected
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lawmakers who then are turning around pro-life laws in states
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like Texas, pro-life laws in states like Idaho.
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And these pro-life laws are then being used to protect human
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life. So yes, they were freed to do
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this by the over ruling of Roe V Wade.
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But President Trump even and actually we're going to get to
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this in a minute, even here in this in this display, you know,
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he's sort of softening on his past and recent pro abortion
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rhetoric. You're going to hear that.
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But as recently as a few weeks ago, President Trump has said
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that he doesn't think that the ban on abortion in Florida goes
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far enough in terms of allowing babies, very young babies, to be
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killed by abortion. He thinks that, you know, 5
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weeks, six weeks is too few weeks.
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He says he wants there to be more weeks that the baby can
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live until the baby can be aborted.
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Meaning it's just giving women five weeks of the baby's life to
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kill the baby isn't enough. Give the women 78910 weeks of
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the baby's life. That's what President Trump has
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said in just the last few weeks. I know it's painful for a lot of
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you guys to hear this. People that want to go out and,
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you know, vote cheerfully for Trump because Kamala Harris is
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such a disaster on human rights and life.
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But we have to tell the truth. We have to tell the truth about
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the positions of the Trump fans campaign.
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And it's some of these positions are diametrically proposed to
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the pro-life position. So let's keep listening.
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For a doctor or nurse to provide healthcare in one state, it
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provides prison for life. Trump abortion bans that make no
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exception even for rape and incest, which understand what
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that means. A survivor of a crime of
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violation to their body does not have the right to make a
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decision about what happens to their body next.
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That is immoral and 1 does not have to abandon their faith or
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deeply held beliefs to agree. The government and Donald Trump
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certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her
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body. What's so?
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Wrong. Here is Kamala Harris is using
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the language of morality and even the language of faith.
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Now this is what Kamala Harris's tactic here is like.
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Let's talk about morality, people of faith.
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And what she's advocating for, she makes it sound so good,
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right? Women's right to their body and
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helping rape survivors. I'm all for that.
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I mean, anyone can agree rape survivors deserve help, support,
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justice. A woman, I have bodily autonomy.
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No one should hurt my body, harm my body, abuse or abuse my body.
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Of course we agree with this. But what she's not acknowledging
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is what an abortion is. An abortion isn't some, you
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know, me just choosing to go and, you know, take a walk down
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the street and, you know, go to the dentist and have a, have a
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cavity filled or a molar removed.
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Abortion is the intentional destruction of another body, not
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my body, but another body that might be inside of my body.
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If I'm pregnant and I was pregnant with my daughter
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recently, she's five months old now, there was another body
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inside my body. There was a baby inside of me,
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another unique individual human life, and I did not have the
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right to hurt her. I don't have the right to hurt
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her, just like I don't have the right to hurt her now or anyone
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has the right to hurt her now because she has the right to her
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body, to her own bodily autonomy, autonomy and
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protection. And so this idea that just
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because a child is dependent on me as a woman, I'm pregnant with
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a a new life, then I have the right to kill that child is, is
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a lie. We don't own children.
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Parents do not own their children.
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They're not property. We are entrusted with our
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children even when it seems inconvenient or difficult.
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And that's one of the reasons why the way why something like
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adoption is so amazing, right, guys?
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Adoption is so beautiful because if in the case of, you know,
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sexual violence or great distress, it's some sort of
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emergency situation, mental health challenges, a mother
21:55
says, I, I can't raise, I don't want to raise this child.
21:58
I can't take the responsibility for this child.
22:01
That's why there's literally waiting lists of hundreds of
22:04
thousands of couples who would love to adopt A new baby and
22:08
take on the new responsibility of of this child's life.
22:12
That's why we're so pro adoption in our movement.
22:15
It's such an and beautiful solution to the crime of
22:18
abortion. Of course, Kamala Harris is not
22:21
acknowledging any of this. Her narrative is so set, which
22:25
is that as a woman, you need abortion.
22:28
It's your right. That's the only thing that she's
22:31
willing to say here, and she's not willing to acknowledge at
22:35
all the rights of the baby. All right, let's keep listening.
22:38
You want to talk about this is what people wanted, pregnant
22:42
women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from
22:46
a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the
22:50
healthcare providers are afraid they might go to jail, and she's
22:53
bleeding out in a car in the past.
22:55
This is a lie. This is such an evil lie.
22:59
This one breaks my heart so much.
23:00
I've had a miscarriage. I've had multiple friends who
23:03
have miscarriages repeat miscarriage.
23:06
It almost. It really chokes me up actually,
23:08
this lie, because it's so cynical, what Kamala Harris is
23:12
doing here. She is using the tragedy of a
23:16
miscarriage, which is the darkest days of 1's life for
23:19
many people who've experienced miscarriage.
23:21
It was for me. And she's using the pain of a
23:24
miscarriage. And in a miscarriage, the baby
23:26
dies naturally. The baby passes away.
23:31
You take of your ultrasound, they look for the heartbeat.
23:33
They can't find because the baby's heart has stopped
23:35
beating. The baby is dead.
23:37
That's a miscarriage. And there is nothing further
23:43
from more different from abortion than a miscarriage,
23:46
because in an abortion there's a living baby that's killed,
23:51
that's murdered. In a miscarriage, there was a
23:54
baby that was tragically lost. It's like the difference between
23:59
somebody burying a human being alive, taking someone, and
24:04
burying, let's say, a 30 year old man, burying him in the
24:07
ground alive to kill him, versus a family coming alongside this
24:12
30 year old man that they're mourning their brother, their
24:15
son, whatever it is, and mourning him because he passed
24:18
away from a heart attack, let's say.
24:20
And so they're taking his dead body and putting it in a
24:23
cemetery and burying his dead body.
24:26
Do you see the moral difference between taking a person and
24:30
burying them alive and taking a person who has passed away and
24:35
giving them a proper burial? That, my friends, is the
24:38
difference between miscarriage care and abortion.
24:40
But here Kamala Harris is conflating the two.
24:43
And then she's going a step further and she's saying that
24:47
states that protect life, that ban abortion are actually
24:51
letting women who are suffering miscarriages die and and be or
24:56
be seriously harmed. And I have studied every one of
24:59
these cases that had popped up in the media.
25:02
And I'll talk about Ryan Hamilton.
25:03
It was a big Texas case just a couple months ago.
25:05
He was a man on Twitter. He came out on Axe and now all
25:08
these pro abortion advocates are behind him.
25:10
He said he and his wife, she was miscarrying.
25:13
She went to the hospital and in her rural town, it was actually
25:16
the urgent care 1st in her town in Texas.
25:19
And they declined giving her a surgery to remove the baby who'd
25:23
already passed away. They gave her the abortion pill
25:25
instead to help her pass the dead baby and Long story short
25:29
his wife ended up having serious hemorrhaging and bleeding that
25:31
was life threatening and so he blames the failure of pro-life
25:36
laws. He says well because abortion is
25:38
restricted that's why this happened to my wife.
25:40
Which is completely false. The reason that someone might
25:44
have a trouble with their miscarriage has nothing to do
25:48
with pro-life laws because even in the case of Ryan Hamilton, as
25:52
just an example, and his wife in Texas, they prescribed one of
25:55
the drugs used in the abortion pill to help pass an already
25:58
dead baby. It's a it's a medication that
26:01
helps you basically have a miscarriage for forcing you to
26:05
go into labor if it can be very early term.
26:07
And that same medication can be used on a baby who's living.
26:12
But even the most pro-life states like Texas understand
26:15
that if the baby has already passed away, this is not an
26:17
abortion. It's not prohibited by law and
26:20
the doctor was even in his own story, this man's story gave him
26:23
the abortion pill, which is the same medication uses the
26:27
abortion pill. It's not used to kill the baby.
26:29
It's used to pass a dead baby. And then he still blames the
26:32
pro-life law in Texas because he said he wanted a surgical
26:34
procedure and that's not what they gave them gave him.
26:36
But if you dig under Ryan Hamilton store, you'll find that
26:39
actually surgical procedure was not standard of care for a woman
26:43
presenting with a a baby who passed away, that she hadn't
26:46
passed the baby yet. You don't go straight to a
26:47
surgical procedure. So I'm getting in the weeds
26:50
here, guys. But the point is this is a bald
26:52
faced lie being told on the presidential debate stage by
26:56
Kamala Harris. She's fear mongering.
26:59
She's saying you're going to die if you have an abortion ban and
27:01
you're going to be miscarrying and you're not going to get
27:03
care. That is a bold faced lie.
27:06
There is not a single pro-life law in the books that prevents
27:09
in any way, shape or form miscarriage care.
27:11
But if the baby isn't miscarried yet, if the baby's heart is
27:14
still bleeding, then the standard of care should be in a
27:18
pro-life America, to care for both the mother and the baby and
27:22
to help both of them and to try to save both of their lives.
27:24
That's what Kamala Harris objects to.
27:27
That's what she's mad about. Of course she's not saying that.
27:29
Let's keep listening. She didn't want that.
27:32
Her husband didn't want that. A 12 or 13 year old survivor of
27:36
incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term.
27:41
They don't want that. And I've pledged to you, when
27:45
Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of
27:50
Roe V Wade, as President of the United States, I will proudly
27:54
sign it in to law. So Kamala Harris is saying that
27:57
she's going to sign into law, a law that would make abortion
28:00
legal across the country for any reason.
28:02
That's what she's pledging to do.
28:03
But she's using, she trots out rape and incest.
28:06
This is this is always the tactic.
28:08
It's such a cynical tactic. Rape and incest are absolutely
28:13
horrific and horrible. If you know someone who's
28:15
endured sexual violence, you, you understand this or you maybe
28:18
have experienced it yourself, you understand it's, it's
28:20
absolutely abject horrible. It's, it's object, it's, it's,
28:25
it's one of the worst evils that anyone could endure.
28:29
And she's using it to justify killing babies.
28:32
The reality is though, in the case of rape or incest, abortion
28:36
doesn't take away the trauma of the rape or the act of incest.
28:40
Abortion doesn't bring healing to the victim.
28:42
If there's pregnancy, if there's a new baby, a new life
28:45
conceived. Abortion doesn't somehow create
28:48
justice for the mother. All that of an abortion does is
28:52
takes out lethal violence, basically the death penalty on a
28:56
new life on an innocent third party.
29:00
And we're afraid to talk about this sometimes, even among pro
29:04
lifers, because we know how horrible rape is and how
29:06
devastating sexual violence is. And we don't want to in any way
29:09
seem like we're condoning it or not taking it seriously.
29:13
But the reality is one of the reasons rape and incest are so
29:16
horrible is because life is so precious and sex is so sacred
29:20
and our bodies are so sacred. And so we can adamantly say, of
29:24
course it's horrible, Kamala Harris, of course it's horrible.
29:27
And how dare you use rape and incest as the justification for
29:31
the shedding of innocent blood, because there's no justification
29:35
for doing that. And it is also a lie to say that
29:38
a woman is going to be healed by an abortion or that's going to
29:41
take away the trauma of her rape.
29:42
It's not. Abortion is another act of
29:45
violence against her body, too, as well as a lethal act of
29:49
violence against that baby. So again, I know these things.
29:53
You know, in polite society, people don't want to talk about
29:55
this. They don't want to say it.
29:57
But I think about my friend, you know, Rebecca Keseling.
30:00
I think about how she was conceived in rape, a violent
30:03
rape of her mother. And her mother at the time tried
30:06
to even get an abortion, but it was against the law at the time
30:09
in the state that she was in. And she wasn't able to get an
30:11
abortion. And she ended up delivering
30:13
Rebecca and placing her for adoption.
30:15
And later on with thank Rebecca and thank the law that she
30:19
wasn't able to have the abortion and kill this innocent child as
30:24
some sort of solution for the rape that she suffered.
30:26
And that Rebecca's life, her beautiful life, this smart,
30:30
strong woman, she ended up being a lawyer and having her own
30:32
children, that this life was worth it.
30:36
It was her life was worth fighting for.
30:39
So these are the stories that need to be told every time the
30:42
the pro abortion side trots out these tragic, heartbreaking
30:44
stories of rape survivors. We need to tell the stories of
30:48
children conceived in rape. We need to tell the story of
30:51
somebody like Liana, my friend Liana, who was horribly raped.
30:56
She was abused by gang raped by a group of men at age 13, and
31:02
she ended up getting pregnant. And the doctor told her, well,
31:06
I'm going to give you an abortion because everyone thinks
31:09
we'll just give them an abortion, that'll solve the
31:10
problem. And she said to the doctor, will
31:13
the abortion take away the memory of what happened to me, a
31:16
memory of the rape? And the doctor was like, no, she
31:20
said, so why would I? Why would I do this abortion?
31:23
Why would I do? Why would I do this abortion and
31:25
take this, this child's life? She had this incredible,
31:28
beautiful moral clarity. Now she goes around the world
31:31
speaking about the value of every child's life, including
31:34
children conceived in rape. So I digress.
31:37
We're not going to go too far down this rabbit hole talking
31:39
about this, but it's incredibly important to push back against
31:43
this lie from Kamala Harris that miscarriage and sexual violence
31:49
is somehow a justification for killing babies.
31:53
Let's keep listening. If Donald Trump were to be re
31:56
elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.
31:59
Understand in his project 2025 there would be a national
32:02
abortion, a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies,
32:06
your miscarriages. I think the American people
32:09
believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to
32:13
make decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the
32:17
government. Thank you, Vice President
32:19
Harris. Well, there she goes again.
32:21
It's a lie. I'm not signing a ban, and
32:24
there's no reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what
32:27
everybody wanted, Democrats, Republicans and everybody.
32:31
Else I wish President Trump had called her out on the lies about
32:35
rape and such. Miscarriage and study says
32:38
you're right. I don't want to sign up.
32:39
You know, I'm not going to sign an abortion ban.
32:42
If you don't support making abortion illegal, you're not
32:45
pro-life. If you don't, if you're you
32:48
think it's OK for the government to stand by, will abortion
32:52
clinics crop up in your cities that kill babies in places like
32:55
California through all nine months of pregnancy?
32:57
And you're OK with that? You're OK with the government
33:02
protecting the killing of babies by allowing abortion clinics to
33:06
operate in your communities. Imagine if there are clinics
33:09
operating in your community that killed 2 year olds and people
33:13
just took their two year old in to be killed.
33:14
That was their, that's what they chose.
33:17
The two year olds were a lot of trouble.
33:19
They were a lot of burden, economically, socially,
33:22
mentally, whatever. And imagine if you live in a
33:25
city where 2 year olds are being taken in to be killed and the
33:28
government said, well, it's not our responsibility to get
33:30
involved. Let let them do what they want.
33:34
That is an anti life, unjust, horrific policy.
33:37
And that is exactly what is happening across the country.
33:41
Only the babies are a couple years younger.
33:44
They're preborn babies, but they have the same moral value.
33:47
They have the same human value as a born child.
33:50
But that's what we're permitting.
33:52
So it's so disappointing that President Trump, who has called
33:54
himself the most prolive president, that's what he named,
33:57
he he sometimes likes to use, is saying that he wouldn't if if
34:01
Congress sent him an abortion ban, he wouldn't sign it
34:03
immediately. Of course you should sign an
34:06
abortion ban. Certain things should never be
34:08
permitted, like killing babies, like murder, like rape, like
34:12
theft and also killing babies. And so this was a disappointing
34:17
moment in the debate. And I know some people are
34:19
saying, well, listen, you know, don't be so hard on Trump.
34:23
You know, he's doing his best. Kamala is so much worse.
34:26
It's our job as pro A voters to speak the truth and to ask more
34:30
from our candidates. President Trump has signaled in
34:33
the past that he he's willing to listen and he signaled in the
34:36
past that he wants your vote. If he wants your vote, then we
34:40
should say, of course, the answer should be a cheerful, of
34:42
course I want to sign. I mean, imagine if President
34:45
Trump had said in this debate and said, oh, Kamala Harris is
34:48
lying. She's lying about late term
34:50
abortion. She's lying about miscarriage
34:51
care. It's a bunch of lies.
34:53
And by the way, of course we should protect human beings.
34:56
These are little babies and it's our job to protect them.
35:00
What a refreshing answer that would have been.
35:03
So we need to continue to ask that from our candidates,
35:08
regardless of their political party even.
35:09
But we should continue to demand that as pro-life voters from
35:12
candidates. I do think it is possible.
35:15
I do think we will see a day when we have a pro-life country.
35:19
But the only way we're going to get there is if pro-life people
35:22
demand it from their politicians as well as doing the day in day
35:26
out work to change culture. But we have to demand it from
35:29
our politicians. Let's keep listening.
35:32
And every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the
35:35
states. And the states are voting.
35:38
And it may take a little time, but for 52 years, this issue has
35:42
torn our country apart. And they've wanted it back in
35:46
the states. And I did something that nobody
35:49
thought was possible. The states are now voting what
35:52
she says is an absolute lie. And as far as the abortion ban,
35:57
no, I'm not in favor of abortion bid, but it doesn't matter
36:00
because this issue has now been taken over by the states.
36:04
Would you veto a national abortion ban if it?
36:06
Well, I won't have to because again.
36:08
And two things. Number one, she said she'll go
36:10
back to Congress. She'll never get the vote.
36:12
It's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with
36:15
the 5050 and essentially 5050 in both Senate and the House.
36:20
She's not going to get the vote. She can't get the vote.
36:22
She won't even come close to it. So it's just talk.
36:24
You know what it reminds me of when they said they're going to
36:26
get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total
36:29
catastrophe, the Student Loans and then her.
36:33
So here Trump is pivoting. You can kind of tell he's
36:36
uncomfortable. He's sort of pivoting away from
36:38
the topic. But he makes this comment.
36:40
He says, you know, for 50 years the country was torn apart.
36:43
He says it was torn apart, right?
36:46
And the country's torn apart today, there are almost 3000
36:50
abortions a day in this country. This idea that, well, overturn
36:55
Roe V. Wade, let California have
36:58
abortion through all nine months, and then Florida, well,
37:01
we don't like Florida's heartbeat law, Trump says.
37:03
So let it at least have abortions legal and throughout
37:05
the entire first trimester. That will be some sort of peace.
37:08
We'll have peace then in this country like Mother Teresa says.
37:12
I said this on the on the live last week, guys.
37:14
Mother Teresa, the greatest destroyer of peace in the world
37:17
is the cry of the innocent unborn child.
37:20
I can tell you one thing. We will not have peace in this
37:22
country ever until we eradicate abortion.
37:26
So, you know, Trump's trying to kind of find a piece, find some
37:29
compromise, find some moderation.
37:31
You can't not create moderation with the killing, the slaughter
37:34
of babies. You just can't.
37:35
It's a black and white issue. They're dead or they're alive.
37:38
They're killed or they're protected.
37:40
They're human beings. And until we are confident in
37:46
saying this, no matter who our audience is, whether it's an
37:50
election or not, and not just making it a partisan issue,
37:53
like, well, we can't stand Kamala Harris.
37:55
So we're going to call her out when she says bad stuff.
37:57
But if President Trump says it, then I'm not going to say a word
38:00
because, you know, maybe some people will think he's less
38:03
pro-life than he really is. Is that honest?
38:06
Is that actually going to help people in the long run become
38:09
pro-life? Is that really going to be a
38:11
winning strategy for helping our country have the reckoning that
38:15
it needs with the killing that abortion is?
38:18
I don't think so. So that's why I'm so proud of so
38:20
many people who are listening to the show, who are willing to go
38:23
out and speak the truth and who are willing to educate and her
38:26
willing to call for something better from the one candidate
38:30
that is at least asking for their vote, which would be
38:32
President Trump. So thank you for doing that.
38:35
All right, we're going to pivot here to Taylor Swift because
38:38
after this debate, there was a lot more to the debate.
38:39
Of course, everything was discussed from the economy to
38:42
immigration, foreign wars. We're going to set that all
38:46
aside for a moment and look at some of the aftermath of the of
38:50
the debate last night because arguably the world's biggest
38:53
superstar came out Taylor Swift and she announced that she is
38:57
now backing surprise surprise, Kamala Harris.
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go to Taylor Swift's comments here.
40:34
So she came out arguably the world's biggest superstar and
40:37
she, she says, like many of you, I watched the debate tonight.
40:41
If you haven't already, now is a great time to do your research
40:44
on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on
40:47
the topics that matter to you the most.
40:50
As a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can about
40:53
their proposed policies and plans for the country.
40:56
And then she goes on to explain what she likes about the
41:01
candidates and what she likes particularly about Tim Walls and
41:05
Kamala Harris. And by the way, this is very
41:07
interesting because she's sort of saying begrudgingly that she
41:12
supports Kamala Harris, but it's more that she actually supports
41:15
Tim Walz is her position. It's not so much about Kamala
41:18
Harris as it is about Tim Walz. And so she says, I've done my
41:22
research and I've made my choice.
41:24
I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
41:27
I'm voting for Kamala Harris because the fights for the
41:29
rights and causes, I believe need a warrior.
41:31
She's steady handed. She's a gifted leader.
41:33
But then she goes on to say that she was so heartened and
41:37
impressed by Kamala Select collection of running mate Tim
41:40
Walz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ plus rights, IVF and a
41:45
woman's right to her own body for decades.
41:49
And she signs it Taylor Swift, Childless cat lady.
41:51
Which is a bit of a jab at JD Swift's comments about childless
41:55
cat ladies. It was just so sad to see this
42:00
because she's saying that a woman's right to her own body
42:03
for decades. She's saying that the reason she
42:05
likes Tim Walz so much is because LGBTQ plus rights and a
42:09
woman's right to her own body. First of all, you got to know
42:12
Minnesota has some of the most LAX laws when it comes to
42:15
transitioning minors, children being trans.
42:18
So that's a separate issue. But this is one of the radicals
42:22
in the Democratic Party, Tim Walz, on this issue.
42:24
He's OK with the transitioning of minors, which can involve
42:28
puberty blockers and body altering surgeries, life
42:31
altering surgeries. But she uses this language, a
42:34
woman's right to her own body in Taylor Swift's mentality.
42:39
And so many people I think today that are misled.
42:41
They think that abortion is a woman's right, that this whole
42:45
fight of enshrining the protection of abortion is
42:49
somehow a woman's right. And Tim Walz's policy on this
42:54
when he was the governor of Minnesota was to sign into law
42:57
the most pro abortion law the state had ever seen, which would
43:00
permit abortion for any reason through all nine months of
43:02
pregnancy, even to the point of depriving care for born alive
43:06
infants after an abortion attempt.
43:08
And they're actually 5 babies that actually survived abortion
43:11
attempts. Well, Tim Walz was governor that
43:14
were left to die because those children aren't even protected
43:17
by the law in Tim Walz's own state.
43:20
This is who Taylor Swift is coming out to support.
43:23
And I just have to believe that if people just knew, this is my,
43:25
my hope that if more people knew the facts, because I really
43:29
believe that Taylor Swift has never really grappled with what
43:31
an abortion is. I'm guess going to guess she's
43:33
never heard from a former abortionist Explain it to her.
43:36
I'm going to guess she's never watched an abortion procedure
43:38
video. I'm going to give her that
43:39
benefit of the doubt, that she is just in that brainwashed
43:42
space of thinking that we as women need reproductive health,
43:46
and that's abortion. And it's only a good thing and
43:48
it's good for women. And it's my right.
43:51
And she has not really grappled that this with the reality that
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this is the killing of a human being.
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And I hope and I pray that if we educate more people, if we build
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the institutions and the networks of people who know the
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truth, who can share the truth and activate others who know the
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truth, I think we can make tremendous change.
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And so I'm going to pray for Taylor Swift's conversion.
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We're going to pray for the conversion of all the childless
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cat ladies, as she calls herself, and just all people on
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this issue. And I just want to thank
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everyone listening because I know the people listening to
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this show, many of you are very passionate already about this,
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and you're willing to speak the truth no matter what, even if
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it's not politically popular. And it is only that truth
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speaking that is actually going to change hearts and minds in
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the end, and it's going to set people free.
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So I pray for Taylor Swift and I just want to urge all of you to
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pray. And we're going to close with
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this. I know this is a very just
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painful, heartbreaking moment in American politics.
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These two politicians supporting abortions.
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Even President Trump with some of his overtures to the pro-life
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community, he still wants abortion to be permitted in the
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first trimester. He still wants these exceptions.
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And you had Kamala Harris, who, you know, in my lifetime, it's
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been Hillary Clinton on that debate stage running for
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president of the United States. Now it's Kamala Harris, both of
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them raging pro aborts. I mean, it's heartbreaking.
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It's truly heartbreaking. But I believe it's going to
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change if you and I are willing to build the movement and speak
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the truth and call it out. So thank you guys for doing
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that. Thank you all for listening to
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this episode of the Lila Rose Podcast.
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We'll be back again soon live to keep on covering these crazy
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events, these crazy times that we are in.
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Do not forget to pray. I believe that prayer is key in
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helping stop the evil and helping convert souls.
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We need that daily conversion too.
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