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Shanada, how are you doing? Good, good. I am
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on my way to Tokyo for Filipino food and then
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a boxing card. Which is not the Kameda card.
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That's in Nagoya. So I'm going to have to catch
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a replay tomorrow. Which kind of sucks, but I'd
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already bought tickets by the time they set the
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damn date for this thing. Yeah, that one was
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fraught with... A lot of different hangups. Yeah,
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I had heard it was going to be like next week
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or the week after when I bought the tickets.
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And then the JBC told them it's this weekend
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or you don't have a license anymore. Not even
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hiding it anymore, are they? No. Well, will we
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be hiding from? UFC Freedom 250, Sunday, June
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14th. This is such a weird event. It is. I have
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heard rumors that a bunch of very flamboyant
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LGBTQ plus people are planning on buying tickets
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and making it a pride event, which would be hilarious.
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That would be pretty funny. But sounds dangerous.
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I don't know if I would try that. i think it'll
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be funny they should go for it yeah yeah one
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of um one of the drag queens that does um like
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how to fix stuff in your house videos um she's
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been pushing it i follow her like how to do basic
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plumbing and stuff so how to fix your sink yeah
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oh you have a running toilet these might be easy
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fixes you can do by yourself The card itself
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is pretty decent. Diego Lopez is usually always
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in fun fights. Mauricio Hufi versus Michael Chandler.
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Should be fun watching Michael Chandler get beat
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up. Josh Hokett is kind of funny sometimes. I
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honestly don't know half these people. Derek
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Lewis, I recognize his name. Yeah, he's the My
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Balls Are Hot guy. Yeah, everybody recognizes
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his name. Sean O'Malley's from Montana. He grew
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up not far from where I grew up. Alex Pereira
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versus Cyril Gond for the interim heavyweight
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title and Ilya Tapuria versus Justin Gaethje
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for the lightweight. So, we'll be talking about
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that much more extensively over on Ultimate F
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and Casuals. So, yeah. The boxing news is kind
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of somber. Probox has declared that operations
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could end at the end of calendar year 26. And
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in the interim, they're going to be moving behind
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a paywall of, I think, $5 a month. They've been
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talking about that paywall literally since they
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started. And $5 a month, I think, is very reasonable
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for Probox. But operations ending would be really
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sad. I love Probox. Yeah. Maybe if enough people
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pay the $5 membership, they could stay open.
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They're going to be reducing their output to
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one event a month. So $5 per event. Yeah. Still
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pretty reasonable. That's like less than a beer
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at the bar. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, but the news...
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But shit, that sucks. Yeah, it's really unfortunate
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to hear that they're not doing as well as we
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would have hoped. Yeah, that just really has
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me bummed out. I don't even know what to say.
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Probox good. Please stay, Probox. Yeah. Everybody
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go and pay the $5. Maybe we can keep them. Of
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course you're going to do that. Got the notice.
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Time starts in 15 minutes. Forgot to adjust it.
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Rico Verhoeven is ranked number eight by the
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WBC. I don't know how I feel about this one.
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I mean, he did have a really good performance
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against the best. And I was trying to find it,
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but Google has gotten fucking useless since they
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went to the AI thing. Yeah. Did Inganu get ranked
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after the Fury fight? I can't remember. I can't
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recall. Because if they're being pretty consistent,
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I guess I have no problem with it. WBA ranked
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Jake Paul at one point in their top 15. That's
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fucking ridiculous. Yeah, I'm a little conflicted.
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He's only got two boxing matches. He's really
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only got one boxing match. But he did have a
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really... good performance against the best.
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Is number 8 too high for your liking? Nganou
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got number 10, apparently, after his fight. Seems
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pretty consistent. But if Rico wants to actually
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give boxing a go... Maybe eight's too high, but
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also I don't want him to go fight top 20 guys.
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And he's old. He doesn't have much time. Number
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eight should be a good jumping off point, at
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least, for him to get in the ring with better
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opposition. Based on how he performed against
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Usyk, I'm sure he's going to be able to hang.
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Yeah, I mean, he's not gonna get blown up. Well,
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Inganu got blown out the next fight, but he fought
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another, like, top, top guy. Right. But, like,
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who's... Hergovich is top 10. I think Rico'd
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do fine with Hergovich. I think Hergovich is
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going to be fighting Atama. No, I was just looking
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at names. Just looking at the names. Okay. Like,
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Okoli's number two in the WBC. Gross. Rico Frank
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Sanchez might be cool, and they're on about the
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same schedule. What about Richard Torres? I don't
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want him to get knocked out by a kickboxer after
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that last knockout. Maybe it wouldn't happen,
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but maybe it would. I think Richard Torres needs
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to take a step back if they don't want to catch
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about really young. What about the other American?
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Jared Anderson versus Rico Torres. Rico Verhoeven.
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I think Verhoeven beats him. I do too. Jared
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Anderson is not very good. I kind of want Anderson
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versus Torres next. Would be nice. Last American
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standing. Yeah. If we don't include Gerald Miller,
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the hairpiece himself. Oh, I always forget he's
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American. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not, like, upset about
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Verhoeven getting a decent ranking after that
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performance. But I don't think he should get
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to, like, jump the line a whole bunch again.
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He needs to fight one of those mid -tier guys,
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in my opinion. Yeah, he needs to earn his ranking.
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Yeah. He kind of lucked into it. Yeah. So he
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has a little bit to prove. But, like, he could
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fight Guido Valenelli. That's not his name. Vianello.
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Yeah. Jesus Christ. This is going to be a long
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podcast, Leo. We'll be fine. Let's see. WBO will
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be mandating Devin Haney versus Keyshawn Davis.
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I was surprised by this one. Not the move I would
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have expected. That's two weight classes up,
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right? One. Just one? Yeah. And I guess Keyshawn
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has a belt, so the WBO lets you challenge if
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you go up a weight class. That's right. Not the
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move I was expecting, but ballsy. Like, I'm not
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mad at it. Yeah, I'm surprised. I'm more surprised
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at Devin Haney. Like, yeah, this is a good move.
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Taking on someone who can actually, like, compete
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with you. Yeah, and I'm a little surprised Haney
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took it, but he's been having trouble making
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money fights, and, like, Keyshawn Davis is a
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draw. Yeah, in Virginia. Yeah, I'm surprised,
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but it's not a bad fight. Could be interesting.
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Do you find it interesting, Netflix wanting to
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host Inoue vs. Bam? Yes, and I like it. I'm a
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little excited about that. Get good boxing, like
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really good boxing, of smaller guys in front
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of the casual audience. They gotta put Jin Sasaki
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on that. They have to. It's gotta be a finish.
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Highlight finish. And actually fucking show it
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to everybody. And I heard that's gonna be in...
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That's gonna be in Japan probably, right? Like
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the actual fight? I think it would be. Yeah.
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I think that's a good move. They sell out so
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fast here. Yeah, and like the... They sell out
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to fans, not fucking scalpers. Yeah, and, like,
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the tickets are reasonably enough priced that
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actual fans can go. Like, my buddy that I met
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up with, he's still in university, and he got
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tickets. Like, decent tickets, too. Yeah, they're
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reasonably priced. Yeah. No, I think that's a
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good move, and I hope they kind of stack the
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undercard. But if it's Netflix, they probably
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will. Yeah, I think they'll want to put on a
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good show for a truly global audience. Yeah,
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and I kind of hope Ola Squaga gets on that one.
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I really like him, and not many people watch
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him. Small guy problems. They're so much fun,
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though. I don't know why people don't like the
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small guys. Let's see here. Bivol better be of
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three. It's likely going to be put on, funded
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by the Russians, so it'll be in Russia. It's
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not the fight anybody wanted to see. Well, not
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that the fans wanted to see, but the Russians
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want to have their own little to -do, I guess.
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I mean, I don't care about this fight because
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I think Bivol won the first two. And I think
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Bivol is going to win the third one even more
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convincingly than the last one. But I do think
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it's probably really exciting for those guys
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to get to fight in Russia. Like, when was the
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last time they got a home fight? Bivol just recently?
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Okay, a big home fight that people care about.
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You're right. His last fight was there. Nobody
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was excited about Evert. Nope. So, I kind of
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get it. The commentary started calling him iFart.
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I think they do that shit on purpose. They have
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to, sometimes. The worst one was Jorge Linares.
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Jorge? Yeah, the British commentators. I'm like,
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what the fuck are you doing, guys? Jorge. So
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rude. Oh, man. Diego Pacheco will be back on
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July 18th. Opponent TBD. He needs to fight somebody
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real again. That's my only comment. I don't care
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about the TBD opponents. Yeah, I believe he is.
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At the top of the rankings for the IBF. What
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weight class is he? 168. Which is super middle.
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He's number five. He's three in the WBO. Four
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in the WBC. And five in the IBF. And seven. in
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the WBA. So, he shouldn't be having TBD opponents
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at this point. He should be fighting people we
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know. Yeah, I think the word on the street was
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that Diego Pacheco would fight Troy Williamson,
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who's just above him on the IBF rankings, and
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that would be like a final eliminator. Don't
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know how true that is. That would make sense.
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Yeah, that would make sense. Or they could feed
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him to Yakub Bank. I would like that. But yeah,
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just when you're ranked that high, you should
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be fighting known opponents with some fucking
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promotion before it. Like, whoever's managing
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him sucks. They're bad at their job. He had recently
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signed with that new firm. That was the most
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recent news that I had heard of him, was he signed
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with some firm. And then, yeah, it's been pretty
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much crickets ever since. Yeah, whoever he signed
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with sucks. Whoever he was with before that also
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sucked. I think he was with Matchroom. Well,
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they didn't do a very good job with Pacheco.
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The matchmaking was very careful. And I wonder
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if they don't have faith in him or if they didn't.
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Maybe, but... At some point, you gotta take a
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leap of faith. Or else you're just ruining them
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for a different reason. You know? Like, I'd rather
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see somebody try and get knocked out than just
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have them sit on the shelf and fight nobodies.
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Personally. I agree with you. Diego's at the
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point where he needs to start taking these leaps.
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I know he's not old, but he's not that young
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anymore. Mid -20s, I think. That's when you gotta
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start having some faith or realizing he's not
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that good. Like, yeah, he's 25. Yeah, it's time.
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You either sink or swim. You need to actually
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get in the fucking pool. Take the leap and see
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if you can fly. Harlem Eubank vs. David Papaut
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on July 18th as well. There's not a lot to say
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about it. Just wanted to throw it out there.
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We're all riding with the Frenchman. Yes. And
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I don't say that very often. What's his nickname?
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Who? Papaut? Yeah. Good question. Infants just
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a funny name to have in your nickname, but maybe
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it's used differently in French. Because I think
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that's like the baby of Pinoy. Yeah, Pinoy's
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child. Or baby Pinoy. Pinoy. Whatever the fuck
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that is. Yeah, we need to get Vom to confirm
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how you say this one. And what it means. Is he
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just calling himself, like, Assassin Baby or
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something? Baby Assassin's a pretty common one,
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actually, I guess. It's usually Baby Face, though,
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isn't it? Usually. Yeah, Baby Assassin's not
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so great. Yeah, it's like... Assassin Baby. Is
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that like a baby assassin? The baby that's...
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Yeah. The Baby Snatcher? Woof. That's quite the
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nickname to go with. No, it... Who's the Body
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Snatcher? Gillian White, I think? Yeah, but when
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they were announcing him, I think, for weigh
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-ins, they said the Baby Snatcher. Will this
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be fun? Richardson Hitchens likely to return
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on the July 26th Zufa card against Ricardo Salas.
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Who is that? Which one is Ricardo Salas? The
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magic man. I honestly don't know who he is. I
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do recognize his face, but that's it. I don't
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know if he's any good. 24 and 2 with 18 KOs.
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Could be fun. I would enjoy if he upset Richardson
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Hitchens. I don't like him. It would be funny
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for Zufa's... Another one of Zufa's, like, golden
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geese. To shit a brick? Yep. I mean, a Mexican
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with a pretty good knockout rate, it could happen.
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Tyson Fury, August 1st in Dublin. I haven't heard
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if there's an opponent yet. Let's see if there's
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any news. No opponent disclosed yet. I guess
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just getting in a warm -up fight for AJ? Yeah,
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just staying busy, I guess. Dublin should be
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fun. The Furies have Irish ties, right? Didn't
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he try to fight for Ireland in the Olympics?
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Did he? I didn't know that. I think so. And he
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couldn't... prove his citizenship or something?
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Could improve his Irish roots? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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No, I'm not making stuff up. It's on Wikipedia,
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so it's probably true. The... The un... Like,
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the undying need. To correct people is what makes
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Wikipedia and the editors so fucking fun. And
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so what makes, I think, Wikipedia a very reputable
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source is just the incessant need to correct
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other people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, no, he
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has said it in an interview and I have the little
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reference, but the Holy Trinity Boxing Club.
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who runs Irish Amateur Boxing, protested his
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eligibility because he was not born in Ireland.
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Anyways, he's got ties to Ireland is what I was
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going for. Really quickly, Sharnika Johnson,
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Dina Torslund on August 5th. That'll be in Australia.
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That one could be fun. Yeah. I like Dina. Dina's
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alright. Sharnika is fun. So it should make for
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a pretty good fight. Yeah. Moses Atauma returns
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August 8th. The likely opponent will be Filip
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Hergovich. That's another step up for Atauma.
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That's good. Yeah, another one. And he keeps
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knocking him out of the park. Katie Taylor will
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be retiring September 5th. She's going to get
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her dream fight Croke Park in Dublin. Nice. She
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deserves that. A home fight retirement party.
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Big stadium. Yeah. I'm happy for her. And it
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is time she retires. That should be good. I hope
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they do it right. I hope they make it like a
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really big event for her. I'm sure it will be.
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Yeah. Matchroom likes the theatrics. And she
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deserves them. Yeah, she does. Literal trailblazer.
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Bit of a rebel because she was hiding as a boy
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and fighting for a long time. Because... Boys
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were allowed to box, but girls weren't? Yeah.
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That's fucking absurd. If you're gonna ban it,
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then fucking ban it. Ban it for everyone. Yeah,
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well, you know, girls can't do combat sports,
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so. Anything more for the news? I know this will
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come out after, but I find Neri blowing weight.
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for the fight this weekend. Fucking hilarious.
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He blew weight. Neary blew weight by a lot. I
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think it was three pounds. Jeez. What the fuck
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is this guy doing? And Casamero actually made
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weight this time, which he hasn't done forever.
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So, Neary looking like shit on the scales and
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Casamero looking decent, actually. I'm a little
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worried that Casamero's got his shit together.
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Because I wanted him to get knocked out and I
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wanted his fans to shut the fuck up. But even
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if he gets knocked out now, his fans are not
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going to shut the fuck up. Yeah, that'll be Neary
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Blue Weight. Didn't even try. Unprofessional.
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And the JBC is... They haven't officially done
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it, but they said they're probably going to give
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him another six months ban. It's like the fourth
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time Neary's been banned in Japan. At this point,
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just block him persona non grata from the country.
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That's what I would do. But, you know, whatever.
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They're probably being more lenient because it's
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not a Japanese fighter. They don't give a shit
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about Casimero. True. They let him blow weight
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against Shinsuke Yamanaka. And they let the fight
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go on. Yeah. And Yamanaka was like the proto...
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In a way. He was, like, their star at the time.
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Yeah. But he did get banned for life after that,
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didn't he? And then they dropped the ban so that
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he could fight in a way. And now he's working
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with the Cabedas. So, there you go. Let me get
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some fucking housekeeping shit out of the way.
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D -U -B -B -Y. All right. Into the reviews. We're
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going to blaze through a few of them pretty quickly.
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First, Friday, May 29th, Raised Boxing at the
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Humo Arena in Tashkent. Fucking Uzbekistan. Murajan
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Akbedaliev, also known as MJ, stops Hegley Mosqueda.
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In the fourth. He moved up to featherweight for
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this one. We'll see if the move is permanent.
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Yeah, and he got to fight in his home country.
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That's kind of nice. Bounce back fight. Get a
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little confidence back. MF Pro at the York Hall
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in London. The only one I was going to mention
31:19
is the main event. Siko Ngotole gets the UD over
31:24
Charlie Edwards and is now the IBF mandatory
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for the Superflyweight division. Nice. Which
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hasn't been determined as we're recording because
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it's Willie Baldo, Andrew Maloney this weekend.
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So. Yes. Siko is the mandatory for the winner.
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Saturday, May 30th. Just going to go through
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some select fights on the boxer card. This was
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at Wembley. Select fights, the main event. Adam
32:01
Azeem stops Steve Claggett in three. We all expected
32:05
that. Yeah, I expected it, just not that quickly.
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Fair enough. I thought Steve Claggett would be
32:13
durable. Clay gets an eye of the tiger guy that
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fights in Montreal. I don't expect shit from
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those guys. To be honest. Did you expect shit
32:26
from Dimitri Beeble getting a UD over Michael
32:29
Eifert? He holds Michael Eifert to 12 successful
32:34
total punches landed throughout the entirety
32:39
of the fight. I mean, it looks like the back
32:42
surgery worked, which is good. I'm excited about
32:45
that. Come on, B -Ball, you should have got this
32:47
guy out of there. And he could have. He just
32:50
didn't try. Like, he had him on skates, I think,
32:54
more than once. Didn't he get, like, a knockdown
32:57
in the first round? Yeah. Yeah. So, you could
33:02
have. Like, I think B -Ball was just getting
33:09
rounds in. Yeah, I suppose. It wasn't a bad showing.
33:16
But also, like, it was fucking boring as hell.
33:22
Yeah. Like, if he'd have got the knockout, there
33:25
would have at least been a reel to send around
33:27
to people. This was like, try not to fall asleep
33:30
for 12 rounds. I don't know. I'm disappointed.
33:35
I am too. I was kind of holding that one back.
33:39
Because I didn't... It was a really... It has
33:43
to be said, it was a dominant performance. Holding
33:45
a guy to 12 punches, total punches throughout
33:48
the fight, that's pretty fucking sick. You had
33:54
him down. You had him rocked. He clearly wasn't
33:59
good enough to do anything. You could have pushed
34:02
the tempo here. I feel you should have. There
34:06
were multiple rounds where he didn't land a punch.
34:12
Yeah. That's crazy. But I think you're right.
34:14
He was just shaking the rust off and he wanted
34:17
to get some reps in. Yeah, that's fine for like
34:20
five rounds. I don't know. It's disappointing.
34:30
MVP W3 on ESPN+. Just going to pick up a few
34:38
here. Jessica Plata. UD overbrook Cibrian. Lourdes
34:45
Juarez beats Yocasta Valle by split decision.
34:50
I didn't get to see this card, but was this a
34:53
good fight? Because I was thinking this was going
34:55
to be really good before it happened. It was
34:58
one of the better ones on the card. Okay. Got
35:03
bloody at the end, too. I see Valle got knocked
35:09
down in the tenth, according to BoxRec. I meant
35:12
to go find these, but it's kind of hard to find
35:15
replays of the women's cards sometimes. Desley
35:23
Robinson retains IBFWBO middleweight titles.
35:28
Mary Spencer drops the UD. Amanda Serrano getting
35:36
it done in two. Cheyenne Hansen didn't have a
35:39
chance. So, does that have her tied for the most
35:44
knockouts in women's boxing? Yes. I think 32.
35:51
Yeah. She's been chasing that for a while now,
35:56
Amanda Serrano. Stephanie Hahn retains the WBA
36:08
lightweight title. with a majority decision over
36:12
Holly Holm. A lot of the crowd didn't agree.
36:17
I didn't agree either. Yeah, I heard this was
36:21
pretty controversial. I mean, it's a majority
36:27
decision, right? So there was a draw in there.
36:34
Yeah, and the other two cards were 96 -94, right?
36:38
Yes. Like, everybody had it super close. I guess
36:44
when they're that close, though, you can't really
36:47
be that mad if it was actually a close fight.
36:50
Like, you can't really yell robbery. Right. That's
36:55
pretty much what I was getting at. It was super
36:59
close. They fought really close. Holly, you could
37:06
have given it to Holly, whatever. I wouldn't
37:08
be fussed either way, but I felt Holly did more.
37:11
Did enough to win, anyway. But now we won't get
37:16
the trilogy. Yeah, the retirement question came
37:22
up for Holly Holm. Now that she's past this.
37:28
I mean, she is 44. That's pretty old for anyone
37:34
in any combat sport. That's just pretty old for
37:39
sports. There's not many sports where 44 isn't
37:42
old. Moving to matchroom on DAZN at the Fertitta
37:52
Center in Houston. Moving from the bottom up.
37:59
Zayquin Moses, UD over Travis Crawford. Omari
38:04
Jones, UD over Diego Osuna. Charlie Sheehy stops
38:09
Jarrett Gonzalez in nine. And Oshaki Foster retains
38:13
his WBC Super Featherweight title by majority
38:16
decision over Ray Ford. I saw a lot of people
38:22
really mad at that draw card. Yeah, I don't think
38:28
it was that close. Ray was competitive, but he
38:35
was pretty clearly outgunned. Yeah, I thought
38:41
it was a pretty clear Foster win as well, but
38:45
I guess one of the judges disagreed. Ray was
38:50
landing good shots, but it was like one, maybe
38:53
two at a time. Whereas Foster was working in
38:58
combinations, ring generalship. He was like the
39:02
total package. Yeah. Tossed Rayford out of the
39:10
ring. That was fucking ridiculous. I can't believe
39:14
they didn't take a point for that. Me too. Because
39:17
he very clearly fucking threw him. He threw him.
39:20
And like, it's so dangerous. There was a chair
39:25
right there. Like, Ray Ford just missed a chair.
39:31
But... He looked like he was going down a slide.
39:36
He did, yeah. Kind of like the penguins going
39:40
into the water. Yeah, that's a very good way
39:43
to put it. Yeah. Yeah, it was a weird fight.
39:47
I guess they had, like, real beef, so it makes
39:50
sense. I kind of wonder if that one judge was
39:55
giving every close round to Ford after that.
39:58
Hmm. That would be an interesting way to score
40:01
it. I mean, that's not what you're supposed to
40:05
do, but I could kind of see that mindset. Like,
40:09
you fuck around, you're on the shit list. Right.
40:13
Benefit of the doubt will never go to you. Yeah.
40:19
Shakur Stevenson was brought into the ring. I
40:22
saw that. They were jaw jacking at each other.
40:28
I don't really care about either of those guys.
40:30
If they fight, that's fine. It would probably
40:33
be really fucking boring. That's kind of what
40:37
I was leaning to, too. What weight class was
40:49
this Oshaki fight? And is that where Stevenson
40:54
is? Stevenson's at 140. Yeah, okay. That's what
40:58
I thought. That's so weird that they brought
41:01
him in, isn't it? I guess they were just... Just
41:06
to have them chat shit at each other, get the
41:08
viral moment. I guess. This is the one where
41:12
I was thinking it was two weight classes. Because
41:16
Foster has a belt, but can you jump two weight
41:19
classes and challenge the title? belt holder.
41:29
I can't see that fight happening. There's too
41:31
much weight in between them. Maybe they could
41:35
meet at 135? Yeah, Stevenson isn't that big,
41:41
is he? No. He's fresh to 140. And he did have
41:46
a title at 135 before he was stripped for not
41:49
paying his dues. Yeah, but then, like, you have
41:54
that fight and neither belt's on the line. What's
41:59
the point? I wouldn't care if there was a title
42:05
on or not. Just, like, it's the two of the better
42:09
fighters in each other's neighborhood. Fair enough.
42:14
But, like, maybe it's just because I don't like
42:16
them. Neither of them is exciting enough for
42:20
me to care. But I guess they have fans. Their
42:23
fans will care. I find them both kind of boring.
42:30
Yeah. It's for the purists. Yeah. That's not
42:36
me. I am the most hardcore casual boxing fan.
42:51
That's all we got on the recaps. It was a busy
42:57
weekend, but also not one I was excited for,
43:01
if that makes sense. Yeah, there was a lot going
43:05
on, but only one or two fights were really worth
43:11
paying attention to. Yeah. Beevil, the Foster
43:15
-Ford fight. Otherwise, it's like you're looking
43:19
for prospects. Pretty much like Zaquin Moses
43:22
and Omari Jones. You want to watch them. If you
43:27
want to be a fucking degenerate, I mean. The
43:32
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43:36
boxing is degenerate behavior. I suppose that's
43:42
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43:49
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47:33
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47:40
I recognize Wilkins Matthew, but I think that's
47:44
the only boxer on this card I recognize. Oh,
47:47
Leila Boudouin. I recognize her. Oh, yeah. Now
47:54
that I see her face, I do. It's Eye of the Tiger.
47:58
Don't get too excited. Saturday, June 13th. The
48:06
MF Pro card in Manchester. I tried looking at
48:11
who was on it, and honestly, the only fight with
48:14
people I recognize is Tommy Fury vs. Eddie Hall.
48:19
The posters have been pretty funny for this one,
48:22
I guess. The promotion has been fun, I guess.
48:28
Yeah, I suppose. Like, isn't the tagline Beauty
48:32
vs. Beast? Yeah. I'm not excited for this, but
48:38
it's on DAZN. I might watch it. Yeah, it's a
48:43
good precursor, I guess. Get the sideshow attraction
48:48
out of the way earlier in the day, and then there's
48:52
a matchroom card later in the evening. The matchroom
48:57
card I'm excited about. Ooh, really quickly,
49:01
MVPW4. The headline is IBF super welterweight
49:06
champ O'Shea Jones versus Elia Carranza, the
49:10
number one contender. Should be a good matchup,
49:14
this one. Yeah, I think so. There's a few title
49:21
fights on this. Evelyn Bermudez, IBF WBA WBO
49:27
champ at light flyweight versus Estefani. Osorio.
49:37
WBC featherweight champ Tiara Brown versus Hannah
49:40
Rapp. Hannah Rapp. And WBA superflyweight champ
49:46
Jasmine Artiga versus Natalie Delgado. Yeah,
49:54
it's actually pretty stacked with title fights.
49:58
Yeah, and I expect the winner of The Bermudez
50:04
Osorio fight. Will be. Having to face. What's
50:09
her name? Lourdes Juarez. The WBC champ. That
50:15
just fought. Yeah. I really like Lourdes Juarez.
50:20
I think she's fun. She is fun. That was like
50:26
a match made in heaven. Yeah. I was excited for
50:29
that one. Didn't find time to catch a replay.
50:35
But you won't need to catch a replay of Matchroom
50:38
at the Desert Diamond Arena here in Phoenix.
50:42
No. I will be sat for this one. Let me... The
50:48
undercard leaves a little bit to be desired.
50:55
Yeah. Which is too bad. I hate when they do this.
51:06
I wonder if... Philip Stankovich is a terrible
51:11
name. Yeah, they're just stacking it with local
51:17
guys. Are you going to this one? Absolutely.
51:23
For some reason, I wasn't sure if you got a ticket
51:26
or not. I did. Like the day they went on sale.
51:30
Excellent. Good choice. I will be seated for
51:35
Bam securing the WBA bantamweight title off of
51:41
Antonio Vargas. Sorry, Bam. Your collateral damage
51:47
in the rise of greatness. Yeah. The only thing
52:00
Antonio Vargas would be playing spoiler for the
52:04
Inouye fight. I can't see it happening. I can't
52:10
either. But if it somehow does, Antonio Vargas
52:14
might be upset at the year. I don't do odds,
52:22
but he's got to be like minus a thousand. Yeah,
52:32
it's just funny that the champion and the guy
52:37
is the underdog against the guy moving up. Yeah,
52:43
I mean, but he has to be, right? I would expect.
52:50
Let me see. Fuck off. They don't even let you
53:03
check the odds if you can't bet on it. Yeah,
53:09
Vargas is 13 to 1. So what's that on American
53:15
style? Minus 1 ,300? I think? Let me look. Plus
53:42
1360. Plus his underdog. Oh, this is why I do...
53:49
Yeah, okay. Bam is minus 3000. That's crazy.
53:55
That is wild. I never understand the people who
53:59
take those bets. I don't gamble, so I couldn't
54:05
tell you. I can't tell you what the rationale
54:09
is. Like, why would you ever put $3 ,000 on the
54:13
line to win $100? I guess when you're betting
54:17
like tens of thousands, it adds up. Yeah, but
54:23
why would I bet $30 ,000 to win $1 ,000? It doesn't
54:28
make sense to me. Doesn't make sense to me either.
54:32
Like, what if Bam twists his ankle and you're
54:36
out $30 ,000? Like, it's sports. Shit happens.
54:45
Right. Anyway, I can't see Bam losing this, but
54:53
if he does, it's upset of the year. Yeah, those
54:57
odds are pretty steep. Oh, shit, it's June. It's
55:03
about time we started thinking about our middle
55:06
of the year picks. Oh, yeah. I am so bad at those.
55:11
My memory is so shit. Last thing. Sunday, June
55:18
14th. This is when the UFC White House card will
55:23
be on. But Salida promotions on DAZN. We've got
55:28
a few names for the sickos. Bryant Jennings is
55:33
in an eight -round heavyweight fight. Troy Isley.
55:38
10 rounds at middleweight. Joshua Pagan. And
55:47
Jonathan Gonzalez versus Abraham Perez. Interim
55:51
WBA flyweight. That one could be fun. Worth a
55:57
watch. Should be okay. Jonathan Gonzalez. His
56:06
box set. picture looks like he just killed somebody.
56:10
He's got like one of those scary South American
56:13
prison photos. I don't know how else to describe
56:18
it. Yeah, I see what you mean. But that's it.
56:27
That's all we got on the docket. Definitely Vargas
56:32
versus Bam is the highlight of the weekend. And
56:37
you get to go. I know I get to go to lots of
56:40
really cool boxing, but I'm still jealous. Oh,
56:46
and you're gonna be gone if they do Inoue Bam
56:48
by the time that comes around. Yeah, I only got
56:52
two months left in Japan. Bam should just drop
56:56
this and go fight Inoue. He should. Next week.
57:02
Oh, speaking of next week, I know I told you
57:06
the story. I got an invite to go to boxing with
57:10
people. And I can't figure out where I met these
57:13
people. Yes. Yes. And I've been trying to sneakily
57:18
figure it out. I have no recollection of these
57:23
people. But apparently, one of the guys on the
57:26
card is an American army guy. Army or Navy? I
57:32
can't remember. Anyways, that's why they're going.
57:36
These are Japanese people, but they're going
57:38
to support their American friends. So I'm just
57:42
going to show up. Hopefully I recognize them.
57:45
If not, I'll just pretend I didn't see them in
57:47
the crowd and they can call out to me. This is
57:54
going to be on the 7th? June 10th. Ah, June 10th.
58:00
It's a Wednesday. Honestly, the card, I don't
58:04
really recognize any of the boxers, but I got
58:07
invited out, so I'm excited about that. It'll
58:11
be fun to watch with people who actually like
58:13
boxing, because everyone I've got to sit with
58:16
during the boxing is usually friends that don't
58:19
really care. There are no Americans on this card
58:28
that I see. One of them is. One second. Thai,
58:34
Filipino. It'll take me a second, but let me
58:40
pull up the line. She told me which one it was.
58:46
Because she's Japanese, but the name she introduced
58:49
herself with was Alicia. Oh my goodness. We both
58:59
watched one. FC and we're exposed to Thai names.
59:18
That's all. I get the Thai people to read out
59:23
their real names to me all the time and they're
59:25
quite often even crazier in a Thai accent. Jesus.
59:32
Craig Judy. Oh, I had the wrong day. That's why.
59:35
It's the 9th, not the 10th. So it's Tuesday.
59:40
Yeah. At Korakuen Hall. Air Force. So he was
59:48
neither Army nor Navy. He's Air Force. Eh. Boo.
1:00:00
Anyways. I am glad you asked because I would
1:00:05
have went to Tokyo on the wrong day. I gotta
1:00:08
put that in my calendar. Oh, shit. We're going
1:00:12
into Bam Vargas weekend. I guess you could also
1:00:20
say UFC. It is a really big event. It is a really
1:00:26
big event. I probably won't watch it. Yeah, if
1:00:30
you want that UFC talk, you already know where
1:00:34
to go. You need Nate and Isaac for that. Yep.
1:00:38
Nasty Nate. Nasty Nate. So we're heading into
1:00:42
Bam Bargas Parting Words. Just make sure you
1:00:50
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a month yeah i know the joke is always but that's
1:01:25
like One Starbucks coffee. I don't go to Starbucks.
1:01:32
Less than a single beer at a bar. Yeah. That's
1:01:37
like two beer out of a case in Canada. My actual
1:01:44
life advice this weekend is go to a local festival.
1:01:48
Every town has some sort of festival over the
1:01:50
summer. Find yours. A food festival, a music
1:01:54
festival. A craft fair. Find something. Well,
1:02:03
that's going to do it for this edition of Boxing
1:02:06
Before Dark. Man, we'll see you on the other
1:02:10
side of BAM. Bye. Did it again. how do you want
1:02:30
to convince them to watch mma instead or not
1:02:33
instead but just to start watching mma i'm gonna
1:02:37
go like a different route than nathan went i'm
1:02:40
gonna go with first of all i think mma has more
1:02:44
frequent watchable events you know there's some
1:02:48
some weeks in boxing where it's like it's either
1:02:51
super degenerate or like no names whatever i
1:02:54
think in ufc there's like it's slightly better
1:02:56
uh at times and then the big, big point, it's
1:03:00
just more hectic. I think MMA at times is just
1:03:03
more hectic. You're seeing stuff from street
1:03:06
fights all the way to like movie type fights.
1:03:08
You know, you got roundhouse kicks, straight
1:03:11
up like bar fights at times. You get a wider
1:03:15
range of enjoyable fights, I would say. And then
1:03:21
just like, I don't know, it's just, it's more
1:03:24
enjoyable. The fact that at times you get to
1:03:27
see just guys, like standing and banging it's
1:03:29
it's just more primal in a way uh is what i'd
1:03:32
say that that's how i would try to convince uh
1:03:35
like boxing only fans that it's just more if
1:03:38
you enjoy chaos we saw it in the wild riches
1:03:41
or fight if you enjoy that type chaos uh you
1:03:44
know because that wasn't exactly like a bunch
1:03:46
of technique in that fight but if you enjoyed
1:03:48
something like that i would definitely try out
1:03:50
mma um just because at times there is high level
1:03:55
things And that is incredible to watch. You know,
1:03:58
people like Mauricio Hufi, you're seeing like
1:04:00
incredible knockouts with kicks. But even like
1:04:05
the lower level stuff can be enjoyable with people
1:04:08
just going to town on each other, you know, standing
1:04:11
and banging. That'd probably be the driving point
1:04:13
that I would say to boxing only fans is that
1:04:16
if you enjoy that chaos, I would say definitely
1:04:20
give MMA a try. If you like chaos, I like that.
1:04:24
If you do decide to give MMA a shot, well, you
1:04:27
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1:04:30
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1:04:32
weekend, just like on the boxing side.