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Travis Greene, Brandi Harvey, Angel Rich & Lisa Cortes · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: gospel recording artist who is a three time Grammy Award
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Speaker 1: nomin need. He's in Loving Time, Stellar award, went, a
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Speaker 1: Dove Award winner, a Billboard Music Award winner. His latest
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Speaker 1: album is Broken Record. This is his fourth album. It
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Speaker 1: will be released on Friday, November one of this year.
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Speaker 1: Please walk with the money making conversation, my man, Travis Green, Yo,
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Speaker 1: what's up? I'm done great? First of all, Travis, where
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Speaker 1: are you from? Where were you born? And what did
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Speaker 1: you grow up at? Born? Delaware? First two years Germany primarily, Um,
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Speaker 1: I grew up in Georgia, State of Georgia. And um
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Speaker 1: now I'm in to Torolina, so cut all over there.
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Speaker 1: You know you saw Southern boy keeping them southern root,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Good food down there in South Carolina. Good food. Baby,
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Speaker 1: I'm suthing to my rooms. Yeah, let me ask you this.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you this. As a gospel
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Speaker 1: music artist, you can, I can. I say you're you're
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Speaker 1: You're different from anyone that I'm gonna just say to me.
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Speaker 1: Roshan mcgonald. You know, you know a lot of people
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Speaker 1: are like a man and Steve Harvey. So Stephen, I did, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Gospel Celebration for like thirteen straight years.
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Speaker 1: So I'm deeply rooted and watching gospel performers, you know,
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Speaker 1: and and so in my and my beliefs and not
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Speaker 1: my understanding. Now tell me what is your style before
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Speaker 1: we really get into the interview, and then I would
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Speaker 1: give you my impressions because I'm impressed. First of all,
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Speaker 1: I'm impressed and I'm a big faith So let me
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Speaker 1: just say that. So anything you say, nothing negative is
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Speaker 1: gonna come out of my mouth about you. I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna let you know what I see, what I want
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Speaker 1: to hear, what you are, what you feel you're projecting,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you the greatness that I see. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would say, man, First of all, I had a
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Speaker 1: capital in a word. I say energy. Man. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm better passionate about what I do and energetic um.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, it's like biblical truth
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Speaker 1: but in a digestible format. And that's really what I've
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Speaker 1: been getting to do. To take these ideas about God.
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Speaker 1: I like to call revelations of who he is and
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Speaker 1: presented in the melodic form that's catchy, that's easy to uh,
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Speaker 1: that's a poachable or the listener um, but but hopefully
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Speaker 1: life changing wants the word really get inside of you.
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Speaker 1: And so that's that's my style. Man, It's a beautiful style.
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Speaker 1: Now tell me who is your audience. My audience is
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Speaker 1: is really done verse believe it or not? And I
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Speaker 1: believe no, no, no, no, no, Travis, I believe it. Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know until I went out on tour, man,
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Speaker 1: because you know, we don't dour in churches. We're doing clubs,
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Speaker 1: but I'm on tour. We're doing theaters and bars and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And it super diverse, man. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you got you got you know, my my family in
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Speaker 1: the room. You got blacks, you got um, but then
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Speaker 1: you got white and you got Hispanics. And I think
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Speaker 1: the music is just in such a way that UM
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Speaker 1: and that really matter people skinting tones, they can really
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Speaker 1: kind of take it in UM and they get you know,
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Speaker 1: they get caught into the energy of what were for them.
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Speaker 1: So it's very cool man. Yeah, it's really Uh, it's
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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing, first of all, and because of
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Speaker 1: the fact that you're you're you're, you're doing the same
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Speaker 1: lyrics that other African American artists are doing. But it's
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Speaker 1: sometimes I just read there is just resonating in general,
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Speaker 1: is resonating with the African American community. Now, your music
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Speaker 1: and your tone it's kind of like almost a low
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Speaker 1: rock and roll. It's kind of like, I won't say
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Speaker 1: rock and roll is not that hard, but it's almost
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Speaker 1: if I had to put a style on it. It
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Speaker 1: reminds me of and just who then the Blowfish, Darris Rock.
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Speaker 1: It was like watching him. It's like watching him, and
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a negative thing to say, because
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Speaker 1: he had that same He had the same ability to
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Speaker 1: have a crossover audience, you know, the diversity of people
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Speaker 1: out there appeally to his music even though he was
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Speaker 1: an African American and he was just singing from the heart,
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Speaker 1: relatable music like you were saying, but George just have
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Speaker 1: to be gospel. Yeah, he was South Carolina boy too,
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Speaker 1: so it makes sense absolutely very relatable. And so now
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Speaker 1: here's the thing, because you know, I'm reading your bio
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Speaker 1: and like I said, uh before before you got into music,
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Speaker 1: you know, here you are at Georgia Southern, you know,
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Speaker 1: and business management degree, you're about to go get an
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Speaker 1: m b a. And but you still don't know who
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Speaker 1: you are. That's the key. So you're still trying to
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Speaker 1: find yourself. So you're still seeking out, but you kind
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Speaker 1: of know what you love. But is it a reality.
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Speaker 1: It is a it is a it is a realistic
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Speaker 1: opportunity to go in that direction. Talk of walkers through
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Speaker 1: that whole process because a lot of our listeners, a
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Speaker 1: lot of people in the life are sitting on that
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Speaker 1: edge of opportunity, but fear, doubt, relatives, goods and friends,
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Speaker 1: will will will will push you in the direction of
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Speaker 1: what they feel is safe. Yeah, yeah, I think. I
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Speaker 1: mean you know this because you're you're successful. I think
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Speaker 1: it's a long game, right. The funny thing about a
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Speaker 1: dream man and that it can be the thing that
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Speaker 1: that motivates you, but it could also be the thing
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Speaker 1: that discourages you because the dream is so far out
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Speaker 1: of reach, is so different from your uh present reality,
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Speaker 1: that it can be overwhelming. I think the key is
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Speaker 1: too to have the vision of mine, but you know,
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Speaker 1: to really be faithful day to day. And so for me,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think the reason I didn't really know
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Speaker 1: what I want to do because I like it was
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Speaker 1: in my heart, but it was like, man, I have
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Speaker 1: no idea how to get there, So let me just
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Speaker 1: kind of go and do something familiar and do something
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Speaker 1: that showing. And I think that's where most people land
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Speaker 1: is like, let me do what's safe and that I
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Speaker 1: can kind of figure my own plan out for. But
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Speaker 1: but God didn't operate like that. Man, God is not
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Speaker 1: a gout of like safe platient and she's a guy
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Speaker 1: that required her faith. The faith is risky and show
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Speaker 1: and say them bedient faith. If I had to simplify
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Speaker 1: what faith is, dedia, faith is that it requires God. Like,
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Speaker 1: let's if you can do anything in your own stripty,
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Speaker 1: don't need faith to do it right? Anything that required like, man,
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Speaker 1: I don't know I'm gonna do this. I ain't got
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Speaker 1: no money, i ain't got no connections. I'm just out there.
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Speaker 1: That's what faith looks like, right, So that's what that's
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Speaker 1: what I had up out of my life. Well, my friend,
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Speaker 1: well you held on to the faith, which is a
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Speaker 1: firm belief, and then you drove past doubters and then
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Speaker 1: somebody encourage you. Because as I would tell people, those mentors,
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Speaker 1: I call them bumpers in life, people people bump you,
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Speaker 1: And I say, because people are bumped me. When I
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Speaker 1: was about to steer left, they would say said, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: what shan, Your talents are really over here. Trust your talents,
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Speaker 1: trust the ability that God is telling you that you
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Speaker 1: can grow, that you can win with And that's really
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Speaker 1: what this whole conversation is about. That we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: But it was. But I also want to transition. I
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Speaker 1: want to stay on that music because especially Twining nineteen,
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Speaker 1: because it was it was three videos that I tracked
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Speaker 1: this year. It really really really allowed me to see
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Speaker 1: the diverse audience brand of Travis Cream. Let's let's go
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Speaker 1: with that one that came out in April. Okay, nothing
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Speaker 1: but the Blood? Oh wow, yeah, man, you work. Come come, come, come,
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Speaker 1: come with traffic, Travis, Come on here. I'm what I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna do when this show money main conversation, it's
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Speaker 1: fool somebody because I don't play no music. I don't
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Speaker 1: have no music to hide, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So I better start talking because I want you for
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Okay, So now where was that? Where was
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Speaker 1: that video shot? At? Man? That was that Liberty University Man,
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Speaker 1: Liberty and M and Lynchburg, Virginia. And it was crazy man,
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Speaker 1: I mean talking, I don't know, it's probably fifteen dollant people,
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, students, is this crazy crazy energy? And
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Speaker 1: uh a ton of people got saved and got free. Um,
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Speaker 1: a lot with like motion on mental um issues and
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Speaker 1: a lot of the students got here from that stuff.
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Speaker 1: So it was it was crazy. Man. I'm talking to
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Speaker 1: Travis Green. We're discussing not only his latest album, which
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Speaker 1: is coming out November one as a Friday musically drops
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Speaker 1: on Fridays, but also the record of the album we
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Speaker 1: called Broken Record. Um, we're talking about music that that
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Speaker 1: has affected me over the years, especially this year, and
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Speaker 1: watching these three videos and I had to bring them
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Speaker 1: out because of nothing but the blood uh you know,
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Speaker 1: uh uh you know, let go and a good and
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Speaker 1: love you know to me and then just seeing the
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Speaker 1: transformation then then send you on stage with Stephanie and
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Speaker 1: at that environment and looking at the audience. Well, just
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Speaker 1: the future of your brand and your music because it's
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Speaker 1: related relatable to me. I'm old school, okay, it's relatable
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Speaker 1: to a diverse audience. Your your bands one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: African American, as what can see, So what what is
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Speaker 1: the future your brain? Man? Well? Absolutely absolutely no one
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Speaker 1: in my bandage African American. Okay. So they they're black,
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Speaker 1: you know, some of them are black, but all of
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Speaker 1: them are in the Naga all one. My drummer is okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: you got me on the color, you got me on
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Speaker 1: the color. Okay. Drummers from Baltimore. But my base players
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Speaker 1: Jamaican people, plantation one that our plantation and I'm the
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Speaker 1: one that uh from the Philippines. So pretty diverg uh
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Speaker 1: group of people. They love black, but they're from all
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Speaker 1: over the world. What I think, what I think he
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Speaker 1: helps you in your own sound, in your whole sound.
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Speaker 1: It's not restricted, it's very open kind of you know.
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Speaker 1: It's almost gives me that Bob Marley type field. That
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Speaker 1: Bob Marley when he came, you know, and then he
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Speaker 1: just blew up and he became so that first because
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Speaker 1: that music was so international. And I'm just saying, man,
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Speaker 1: and here in your out and it's you know, it's
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Speaker 1: you know, you have R and B music, Okay, then
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Speaker 1: you have then then then then you have neo soul
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Speaker 1: came out, and then but you're doing and then you
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Speaker 1: have gospel. You have you know, you have you have
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Speaker 1: a strict bible thumping gospel, and then you have gospel
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Speaker 1: that you know that they became transformed with Kurt Franklin
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Speaker 1: and uh and the other artists know Donnie mcclerk and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know you Lena as a lot of grades and
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Speaker 1: a lot of new new artists today, you know. And
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Speaker 1: then I'm looking at your sound. I I asked you
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Speaker 1: again and and and that's why I said, from a
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Speaker 1: day from a responsive standpoint, I came across who didn't
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Speaker 1: blowfish Darris Rutger as an artist that has transcended I
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Speaker 1: feel success in music across the board internationally. And we're
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Speaker 1: not talking about Michael Jackson. That's a whole different conversation.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about music that that that is relatable. And
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Speaker 1: he's just singing. He's just going on stage, putting out
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Speaker 1: their guitar and starting to sing. And that's what you're doing,
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Speaker 1: my man. And I feel that special man, And and
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring don't sure to tell you
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Speaker 1: that any comments on that I hope I make. I
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Speaker 1: hope I'm making you feel good. Bro. Yeah, you're telling me, man,
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Speaker 1: this is crazy. You know, I hear from you. Um Man.
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Speaker 1: I just want to make impact, you know, And at
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Speaker 1: thesome time, I want to be true to who I
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Speaker 1: am and true and honest, you know, and I think
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Speaker 1: other people are connecting with really the authenticity man. You know,
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Speaker 1: but like who I am and diverge do because I
13:24
Speaker 1: grew up on both sides of the tracks and that's
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Speaker 1: just kind of my life. So I love people, man uh,
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Speaker 1: and I just want to connect with them. And so
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Speaker 1: it's not gimmicky. I ain't trying to do something. I
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Speaker 1: just I'm just being through to who I am, and
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Speaker 1: I think people are clinting with it. So it's cool, man.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to make sure you know I'm down
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Speaker 1: with I want you to tell you this to everybody
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Speaker 1: on the phone that you know ras Sean McDonald's not
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Speaker 1: a band wagon guy. Travis Green, you just find traffic.
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Speaker 1: I've just Travis Green all, We've all the way back
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Speaker 1: to twent seventeen and make away, Sir. I appreciate you
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Speaker 1: coming on my show Money make a comment, sastion, Um,
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Speaker 1: I just want to spread my your brand to my audience.
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Speaker 1: Is to show about entrepreneurship, is sure about faith, to
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Speaker 1: show about understanding that you two can be successful and
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Speaker 1: my man, keep being successful and keep supporting who you
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Speaker 1: no no, doubt man much love of money making. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: they lead it bounds life. My next guest is on
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Speaker 1: the phone. She is a producer with a strong music
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Speaker 1: background and direct the known for the remix hip hop
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Speaker 1: Times Fashion, which is this year her newest project. Also
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Speaker 1: has worked on Precious Was the two thousand nine project
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Speaker 1: and The Woodsman, which is a two thousand fourth project.
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Speaker 1: The next project that she's on the phone to talk
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Speaker 1: about is The Apollo. We're talking about the famous Apollo
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Speaker 1: in Harlem. The Apollo weaves together archival footage of music, comedy,
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Speaker 1: and dance performances were behind the scene footage of the
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Speaker 1: team that makes the theater ron. The film features interviews
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Speaker 1: with such artists as Angela Bassett, Common, Jamie Fox, Doug
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Speaker 1: Debates Winsday November six is also available on HBO Now,
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Speaker 1: HBO Goal, and HBO on Demand. Please welcome to Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. The first time we're spoken, and I'm happy
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Speaker 1: there will be a mini many conversations in them in
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Speaker 1: the future. Please welcome to the show. Lisa Cortez, Thank
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Speaker 1: you very much. I am good too, good as we
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Speaker 1: say in Arlem. You know, the thing about Lisa was
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Speaker 1: this first time we've talked. M I always like to
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Speaker 1: everybody kind of get a sense of who I am interviewing. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I get credits, and sometimes the credits are narrowed down
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Speaker 1: to the project that I'm speaking of. He gives a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about your background before you really got
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Speaker 1: into the film and television side of your career. Uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was very lucky to uh start my professional career
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Speaker 1: working at def Jam and Rush in the golden Age
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Speaker 1: of hip hop. And from there I went on to
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Speaker 1: Mercury Records with at Eckstein and then ultimately had my
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Speaker 1: own label at PolyGram called Loose Cannon Records. UM. After
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Speaker 1: a certain time, I think, as I saw the changes
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Speaker 1: that was happening in the music business in the late nineties,
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Speaker 1: a long time ago, I decided I wanted to start
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Speaker 1: making films because I saw that the power of cinema
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Speaker 1: could travel all over the world and that a picture
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Speaker 1: was truly worth a thousand words. And after going back
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Speaker 1: to film school and kind of you know, starting from
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Speaker 1: the ground up again, I ended up working with Lee
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Speaker 1: Daniels and was his producing partner for ten years. Wow.
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Speaker 1: And so let me ask you this now, the Apollo
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Speaker 1: now my background. Just let everybody know, I'm a former
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Speaker 1: stand up comic. UM at a comedy club in Houston,
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Speaker 1: Texas call the Hip Hop Comedy Stop. I used to
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Speaker 1: Finnel talent to the Amateur Nite. One of the famous
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Speaker 1: features of the Apollo is Amateur Nite, and they would
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Speaker 1: take the show and they'd be a part of the show.
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Speaker 1: They would come down the screen talent. So I just
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Speaker 1: say that at least is that I'm excited to interview
18:53
Speaker 1: you because I feel like I'm a part of the
18:54
Speaker 1: history that you're talking about on this show. Because it
18:57
Speaker 1: expands eighty five years. That's a lot to talk about
19:01
Speaker 1: in a documentary. Oh yeah, And but the thing about
19:06
Speaker 1: what our director, Roger Ross Williams has done is he's
19:09
Speaker 1: made those eighty five years not only go by so quickly,
19:15
Speaker 1: but to evoke memories that we all have. Everybody's got
19:20
Speaker 1: a connection to the Apollo if you've been there, if
19:23
Speaker 1: you've watched Showtime, if you have listened to great artists
19:28
Speaker 1: who were given their start there. And so the history
19:31
Speaker 1: goes by so quickly, but we also talk about temporary
19:35
Speaker 1: stories of what is happening at the Apollo. So this
19:39
Speaker 1: documentary is not a museum piece. It is very much alive.
19:44
Speaker 1: When you say that let's let's talk about let's share
19:47
Speaker 1: a little bit more detail about the directions, vision and
19:49
Speaker 1: telling this story, because you're saying that, see what I
19:52
Speaker 1: because I would have an approach. I would do Apollo
19:54
Speaker 1: about all the all the great hosts that were there
19:57
Speaker 1: with show Time at devolvable WHOOPI Goldberg with hols Vealis
20:00
Speaker 1: when I was moved to New York and eight Rickevilius
20:03
Speaker 1: was the host at the time for show time at
20:05
Speaker 1: the Apollo that Mark Lauren sin Bad and then when
20:08
Speaker 1: sin Bad left and Steve Harvey took over and Monique
20:11
Speaker 1: took over, Kid read at the Anderson through that whole
20:15
Speaker 1: constant was my girl, Kiki Shepherd. She was always out there.
20:18
Speaker 1: She was the original I like to call it Vanna White.
20:20
Speaker 1: Before Vanna White was always Kiki Shepherd. That's a part
20:24
Speaker 1: of the story, but you're not delving so much in
20:26
Speaker 1: that part of the story. You're telling how the process
20:30
Speaker 1: worked at the Apollo and the interviewing people involved. Well,
20:34
Speaker 1: we tell the history of the Apollo as a very
20:38
Speaker 1: important place for the souls of black folks. It was
20:43
Speaker 1: a place that you know, at the top of the circuit,
20:46
Speaker 1: that welcomed us as performers when other venues did not.
20:50
Speaker 1: It was the place, uh, you know, where dreams are born.
20:54
Speaker 1: And so the documentary is about great moments like Billie
20:59
Speaker 1: Holiday performing Strange Fruit there. It is a story. It's
21:04
Speaker 1: the stories of Patti LaBelle talking about what it was
21:07
Speaker 1: to be a black woman on the road in the
21:10
Speaker 1: segregated America and what it meant to arrive at the
21:13
Speaker 1: Apollo and what she and the Bluebells learned there. So
21:17
Speaker 1: it is great moments in the Apollo history, but it's
21:21
Speaker 1: also the it's political. It is the intersection of how
21:26
Speaker 1: we as black folks use our art to take to
21:30
Speaker 1: lift ourselves out of oppression. But also our art is
21:34
Speaker 1: coded with information on zillions and survival and so the
21:40
Speaker 1: documentary is you know, it's clips of performers. It is
21:48
Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about amateur Night, we interviewed
21:51
Speaker 1: Miss Eva and I think you remember Miss Eva was
21:53
Speaker 1: a lady who said in the front row house, up
21:55
Speaker 1: on everybody, you know. And we talked to you know,
22:00
Speaker 1: Billy Mitchell, the resident historian, and Joe Gray, you know,
22:05
Speaker 1: the head of stage who's also the set it off man.
22:08
Speaker 1: We you know, we're looking at the people who work
22:10
Speaker 1: at the Apollo because they're as important to the story
22:14
Speaker 1: as the artists who have graced the stage. In addition
22:17
Speaker 1: to political politicians like you know, uh, Charles Rangel, who
22:23
Speaker 1: you know went there as a young man, so uh
22:27
Speaker 1: and Paul McCartney, who said, you know, coming to America,
22:30
Speaker 1: that's the first place the Beatles wanted to go right.
22:33
Speaker 1: You know, the Apollo is the crossroads. We know. It's
22:37
Speaker 1: really interesting when I because you know, I've walked in Apollo.
22:40
Speaker 1: You know, first of all, is bigger than life, because
22:43
Speaker 1: if you walk into you go, okay, that's how big
22:45
Speaker 1: it really is. But that doesn't mean that. But the
22:48
Speaker 1: process of getting on that stage it's really interesting. You
22:51
Speaker 1: you have the you have the audience. But when you
22:54
Speaker 1: walk on that stage and you look at the audience,
22:56
Speaker 1: it's almost overwhelming because there's so much history that comes.
22:59
Speaker 1: I was seen it's own stage there. You know the
23:02
Speaker 1: thing you know, you know, uh, James Brown recorded a
23:06
Speaker 1: live album at the Apollo that became one of his
23:09
Speaker 1: biggest sellers. And now the one of the parts of
23:14
Speaker 1: the Apollo that stood out the most was Amateur Night.
23:19
Speaker 1: And I reason to say that is that how important
23:22
Speaker 1: was amateur Night to the history of the Apollo venue.
23:28
Speaker 1: Amateur Night is so important in four the theater opens
23:33
Speaker 1: n Ella Fitzgerald is an amateur night that that just
23:38
Speaker 1: goes to show you the soope of and depths of
23:42
Speaker 1: the talent that was given an opportunity there. Amateur Night
23:46
Speaker 1: is also interesting because the first time you know, Lauren
23:49
Speaker 1: Hell performed as a young girl. She was booed off
23:52
Speaker 1: the stage. What is unique about the Apollo is that
23:57
Speaker 1: the audience is in on it. The audience and the
24:01
Speaker 1: performer have a unique conversation because the Apollo is church,
24:06
Speaker 1: and so there's very few places that you entertainment venues
24:11
Speaker 1: that you're going to have the kind of call and
24:12
Speaker 1: response between the performer and the audience in the way
24:17
Speaker 1: that you do with the Apollo. Well, you know, it's
24:19
Speaker 1: really important that you say that. Let me read something
24:21
Speaker 1: about the Apollo has served as a launch path for
24:24
Speaker 1: such legendary talents like you mentioned Billie Holiday, Aretha Franklin,
24:28
Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, Ella fhis Gerald, the Supreme, Stevie Wonder,
24:32
Speaker 1: Jimmie Hendrix, Smokey Robinson, Ray Charles, Patty Lebert, who's been
24:36
Speaker 1: interviewed in the documentary Showcase, comedians such as Red Fox, Dick,
24:41
Speaker 1: Gregory Dick Gregory, Richard pryor the great incredible Mars Maylie.
24:46
Speaker 1: I hope somebody does a movie on her One Day Moms,
24:49
Speaker 1: mainly incredible actor Jamie Fox, and you interviewed Jamie Fox
24:53
Speaker 1: in the documentary Talk to us about that. We also
24:57
Speaker 1: have clips from Mom's made and did Gregory and Richard
25:03
Speaker 1: Pryor and Chris rock Um. You know that speak to
25:08
Speaker 1: the unique connection that comedians had with the theater, but
25:13
Speaker 1: also what it is how we use comedy um in
25:17
Speaker 1: a very unique way. Now, the interesting thing about it,
25:21
Speaker 1: are you able to talk about the origin of the buoy? Yes,
25:26
Speaker 1: we we talked because they're not. That's right there, miss Evil.
25:33
Speaker 1: It was, it was awesome, but the booing is what
25:35
Speaker 1: the what? What was separated uh the talent from the
25:38
Speaker 1: wanna be talent? That what? That's what You walked on
25:41
Speaker 1: stage with this with this fear that you can be
25:44
Speaker 1: rejected massively by room full of people, which can crush
25:47
Speaker 1: some people. Are just make them determined to come back
25:50
Speaker 1: and show these people that I'm better than what you think.
25:53
Speaker 1: That I stuck to talk to us about the origin
25:56
Speaker 1: of the boot, well, you know, I mean we the
26:00
Speaker 1: power of the boot is we spent some time with
26:06
Speaker 1: and I want to talk too much because I want
26:08
Speaker 1: people to see the absolutely labsolute, the absolute labsolute, But
26:11
Speaker 1: we definitely get into the power of the boot and
26:14
Speaker 1: the place that it has played with artists. Even Jamie
26:18
Speaker 1: Fox talks about you know, his experience there, my friend.
26:22
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26:25
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28:08
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28:12
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28:27
Speaker 1: Angel rich Oy, Hey, hey, thanks for having me today. Well, well,
28:32
Speaker 1: thank you for getting on the call of day. And
28:34
Speaker 1: first of all, we're yet in this early daytime hour. Yes,
28:40
Speaker 1: I'm in the beautiful capital of Washington, d C. My
28:45
Speaker 1: home city where on fourth generation. So always happy to
28:48
Speaker 1: be back into the city. Back from New York last night. Okay, good,
28:53
Speaker 1: So what's this? What's a typical day? Because I wanted
28:55
Speaker 1: want of the people to understand who you are. We're
28:57
Speaker 1: gonna go through the story of two breaks and uh,
28:59
Speaker 1: you know fast needed by My degree is in mathematics,
29:02
Speaker 1: so you know you, you know, what you're doing is
29:04
Speaker 1: way beyond what I'm doing now because I got into scriptwriting,
29:08
Speaker 1: I got in the sitcom, I got into producing town,
29:10
Speaker 1: so I left all my algorithm life behind other than
29:14
Speaker 1: just counting money. Okay, and you stayed in that lane
29:17
Speaker 1: and you and you blossomed in that lane. So explain
29:20
Speaker 1: to everybody what exactly you do. Yes. So, our company,
29:25
Speaker 1: Wealthy Life designs financial literacy education technology games. We walk
29:31
Speaker 1: people from birth to retirement through twelve interactive modules to
29:35
Speaker 1: exceed the personal finance common Core standards. We also use
29:40
Speaker 1: these games to be able to collect and disseminate financial information.
29:46
Speaker 1: The first game that we have is called Credit Stators.
29:49
Speaker 1: It's similar to Candy Crush, except for swapping around candy
29:53
Speaker 1: around credit pay yall your debt and sieve a hot
29:57
Speaker 1: cost score and learn from the multiple choice question. Now
30:01
Speaker 1: that's now what what with that being said? Because you
30:04
Speaker 1: named a very popular game, and like you said, what
30:08
Speaker 1: is the what is the reaction to You're trying to
30:11
Speaker 1: educate because it's education right that you're trying to push here.
30:15
Speaker 1: Let people know how to control their money, how to
30:17
Speaker 1: grow their money, how to stay I guess I want
30:21
Speaker 1: to say financially stable. Correct. Yeah, So it's been doing
30:26
Speaker 1: very well. We were able to scale to over two
30:28
Speaker 1: hundred thousand downloads during our first ten days. We now
30:32
Speaker 1: have over four hundred thousand downloads. It's the number one
30:36
Speaker 1: education app is fourteen countries, it's top five and forty countries,
30:40
Speaker 1: and it's been named the best financial literacy products in
30:43
Speaker 1: the country by the White House Department of Education, Gay Mortgage,
30:46
Speaker 1: TASE and we're happy to be a member of the
30:48
Speaker 1: Top fifty Apps department as well with Google if they
30:51
Speaker 1: have identified it as one of the top after the
30:54
Speaker 1: world for the past three years. Now that now, that's
30:56
Speaker 1: all amazing. Now Here a lot of people get on
30:59
Speaker 1: more show a boy dropping apps, trying to get apps
31:03
Speaker 1: out there, trying to get in from me. How does
31:05
Speaker 1: one or through relationships or your reputation, how does one
31:09
Speaker 1: drop an app get the do you promoted through social media?
31:14
Speaker 1: How does that happen? Angel? Well, you know, honestly, we
31:19
Speaker 1: didn't have any of that. I was you know, I'm
31:21
Speaker 1: still a regular person. But at the time, no, you know,
31:23
Speaker 1: I know, you know you don't stop that regular person
31:26
Speaker 1: angel a angel You're not a regular person. No you're not.
31:30
Speaker 1: See what you're not gonna do is come on money
31:32
Speaker 1: made conversation and act like I talk a regular people,
31:35
Speaker 1: No special I was a regular person. I'm dropping And
31:43
Speaker 1: I sat back in my UM in my office and
31:49
Speaker 1: as myself, how was we going to be able to
31:51
Speaker 1: scale this without any funding? And so you know, I
31:56
Speaker 1: kind of put the mathematical statistician head on. Okay, we
32:00
Speaker 1: decimed an algorithm. UM, so we reverse engineer Facebook, Instagram,
32:05
Speaker 1: and Google, and we came up with our own algorithm
32:08
Speaker 1: for user acquisition of the ads, and we did something
32:13
Speaker 1: in UM historic and groundbreaking. So our algorithm actually now
32:18
Speaker 1: outperforms Googles by seven point five times and Facebook by
32:22
Speaker 1: twelve points five times. There's no systems that can advertise
32:26
Speaker 1: to me, that can attract users better than what we're
32:30
Speaker 1: already doing. And we actually had Google call and tell
32:34
Speaker 1: us this and confirmed this. We we knew we were
32:36
Speaker 1: doing something amazing, but when Google called and told us
32:39
Speaker 1: that they've never seen anything like it, UM, we really
32:42
Speaker 1: knew we were owning something. So we've actually kind of
32:44
Speaker 1: flashed that out into an algorithm on its own that
32:47
Speaker 1: we call rich CPI, and we're working with other companies
32:51
Speaker 1: to now help them be able to scale their products.
32:53
Speaker 1: Now you need to be working with MCN. But now
32:55
Speaker 1: how does man come get in the angel? Rich? Is
33:00
Speaker 1: this stuff very serious? Because I was sitting with my
33:03
Speaker 1: staff this morning talking about algorithms. There are special people
33:05
Speaker 1: that that's what they do because they understand this new
33:09
Speaker 1: form of marketing, this new form of branding, this new
33:12
Speaker 1: form of being able to target the audience that you're
33:14
Speaker 1: that you're communicating with. How does an individual are I
33:18
Speaker 1: guess like I guess, you couldn't say, I'm an individual
33:20
Speaker 1: on a company will be able to take my brand
33:22
Speaker 1: and walking into the front door to sit down and
33:24
Speaker 1: have a meeting with you or your team? How does
33:26
Speaker 1: that work? Yes? So you would email us at info
33:30
Speaker 1: at get welcome right there down y'all right there down there,
33:32
Speaker 1: write that down there, and I'm gonna say if info
33:37
Speaker 1: at UM to this info at get welcome life dot com, okay,
33:43
Speaker 1: and um, it's very important to email us. A lot
33:46
Speaker 1: of people try to DM linked in, Facebook, message, text me,
33:50
Speaker 1: all different types of things, but I really only take
33:53
Speaker 1: you seriously if you email me, okay, and so um
33:56
Speaker 1: with them is a great way to to to me.
34:00
Speaker 1: You know, I see your LinkedIn and I'll sew your LinkedIn,
34:03
Speaker 1: what your LinkedIn and read about you there too. I'm
34:05
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn too, by the way. Yeah, so that that
34:08
Speaker 1: is a great way to get to me. But the
34:10
Speaker 1: most sufficient way of getting to the entire team and
34:13
Speaker 1: everyone it's info at get walson life dot com. Now,
34:18
Speaker 1: when that happens, someone's gonna contact me back and we're
34:20
Speaker 1: gonna set up a meeting with a team member or
34:23
Speaker 1: be elevated to talk to just you. How does this work? Yes,
34:27
Speaker 1: so it depends on the size of of your of
34:31
Speaker 1: your deal um is right now, we definitely are trying
34:34
Speaker 1: to look for higher level clients. It's it's a T
34:37
Speaker 1: and T L Johnson and Jonathan Falls. Obviously, I'm going
34:40
Speaker 1: to get on the phoney rash Yeah, I love talking
34:45
Speaker 1: to a go I'm gonna just tell you what you
34:47
Speaker 1: what you had with my time Rashan Johnson and called
34:53
Speaker 1: no Rashan McDonald coole, Uh, put him on hold, tell
34:58
Speaker 1: him I love him, But we'll be right back with Okay,
35:00
Speaker 1: with a T N T. Come on, let's talk now,
35:03
Speaker 1: because that's really that's really what it's all about. But
35:06
Speaker 1: but because you've discovered something, and I don't want to
35:09
Speaker 1: I don't want to blow past this whole concept of
35:12
Speaker 1: of what you guys created, you know, with this algorithm,
35:16
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it was a team of you or
35:19
Speaker 1: what's you and a friend or how did that whole
35:21
Speaker 1: concept come about? Because when I when I sit down
35:24
Speaker 1: and I and I and I think about those things,
35:26
Speaker 1: because with my mathematic background, there's a certain logic that
35:28
Speaker 1: comes to comes to about the way I think, how
35:32
Speaker 1: does one go about what your team or or you
35:35
Speaker 1: felt it. There's no different than Steve Jobs sitting down
35:38
Speaker 1: or Bill Gates and down. There's are visionary people. I
35:40
Speaker 1: have to say, you're a visionary person because you come
35:42
Speaker 1: up with something that even Google has called about. So
35:46
Speaker 1: how does that start? Angel? Okay, So I'll answer that
35:51
Speaker 1: question in reverse. Um, do you have three pieces of
35:56
Speaker 1: intellectual property sort of wrapped into the game? Okay? Um?
36:00
Speaker 1: The first piece is the user acquisition algorithms? Rich speaks, Um,
36:05
Speaker 1: I did that solely by myself and I've never showed
36:08
Speaker 1: it to a never so even my co founder has
36:10
Speaker 1: never seen it. McDonald's secret sauce, right exactly, it's like
36:15
Speaker 1: the Coca Cola recipe. That's that's it, unless somebody want
36:20
Speaker 1: to come along and buy Coca cola. Right now, you're
36:23
Speaker 1: not seeing the algorithm, girl, exactly. Uh, we have an
36:31
Speaker 1: algorithm that actually helps people to systematically pay off their
36:35
Speaker 1: debt and raise their credit score. Um, we're going to
36:38
Speaker 1: release that in the next version of the game where
36:41
Speaker 1: we're gonna be rounding up people change to pay off
36:44
Speaker 1: their debt. Uh, that that that's on their credit report
36:48
Speaker 1: and systematically increase their credit score. Now, that's that's something
36:52
Speaker 1: that's coming out now, right, Yeah, that's something that's coming
36:54
Speaker 1: out next. And then third, Well but let's let's stop
36:57
Speaker 1: right there. Let's stop right there. Dot. It's about this
37:00
Speaker 1: this credit score, because that's really big because I wanted
37:02
Speaker 1: to get to the other thing because that credit scores
37:04
Speaker 1: was stopped so many people for some reason. Like even
37:07
Speaker 1: when I came out of high school many years ago,
37:09
Speaker 1: I always knew I needed to maintain my credit. They
37:12
Speaker 1: weren't even talking about scores back then. It was just
37:14
Speaker 1: like I gotta have good credit, build your credit, get
37:17
Speaker 1: one credit card, then you go. Sears was like better
37:20
Speaker 1: than American Express when I was young, and then you
37:23
Speaker 1: do you know something I had. Montgomery Awards were just
37:25
Speaker 1: closed now, so I was just building my credit with
37:27
Speaker 1: the got my Sears, Then I got my Montgomery Roar card,
37:31
Speaker 1: and then got my j C Penning card. Then I
37:32
Speaker 1: got my first Shell gas call, got my Shell gas card.
37:38
Speaker 1: You know that that was hard calls to get back
37:39
Speaker 1: in the day. You know, we're just the future of
37:43
Speaker 1: finance because we were joking around about different things, and
37:46
Speaker 1: can you expound on that before we wrap everything up? Well,
37:50
Speaker 1: first of all, you know a theory that I've been
37:52
Speaker 1: toying with and I started to write a paper on
37:54
Speaker 1: this last night. I think we need to stop calling
37:57
Speaker 1: it the future of farming called the present day of money,
38:02
Speaker 1: because I think with us to keep referring to the
38:05
Speaker 1: future of farmance, people keep waiting for something to happen
38:09
Speaker 1: in the future, and they're not thinking about the present
38:12
Speaker 1: day economy and the present day innovations that are happening
38:16
Speaker 1: right now before them. In terms of mobile banking investment options,
38:21
Speaker 1: you got lobbinhood, You've got acorns, you've got different life
38:25
Speaker 1: insurance policies, You've got highest daily of annuity policies out here.
38:31
Speaker 1: So there's so many things that's happening white now right now,
38:34
Speaker 1: and the receptive is coming in the next two years.
38:38
Speaker 1: So I would hate for people to keep thinking about
38:41
Speaker 1: the future of farmance and then mext thing. You know,
38:44
Speaker 1: they've they've they've held on to the eight hundred credit
38:48
Speaker 1: scores and they haven't purchased the different properties that they
38:51
Speaker 1: needed to or they had to accept their forum on
38:54
Speaker 1: k up um officially to be prepared for this recession
38:57
Speaker 1: that's about to hit. So I really think that almost
39:02
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what, what was the show
39:04
Speaker 1: called um the Futuristics show with the robot and um
39:12
Speaker 1: ah Jetsons. So back you were older than me. I
39:17
Speaker 1: can't believe you. I guess I'm throwing out Montgomery wounds
39:20
Speaker 1: and see you're just gonna go back to Jetsons now.
39:22
Speaker 1: You know you need to stop age. I'm so tired
39:24
Speaker 1: of you. You know, back in the day that cartoon
39:29
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the future of technology in the world.
39:32
Speaker 1: Everything that existed in the Jetsons is here. All this
39:36
Speaker 1: stuff about the future of fans is here, So I
39:39
Speaker 1: think that we need to pause and actually recognize that. Um.
39:43
Speaker 1: But yes, I believe that. I believe the future is
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Speaker 1: here where things are going. I think they're preparing us
39:51
Speaker 1: not to get too deep, but I think they're preparing
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Speaker 1: us for another recession the same way the last recession happened.
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, more housing became available, credit became available,
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Speaker 1: And I agree with you. You know, different ways I
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40:23
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40:29
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40:31
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40:40
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43:31
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43:34
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43:38
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43:43
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Speaker 1: recognized as a person who's delivering the goods via social media.
43:49
Speaker 1: And so my next guest, she's right here, she's actually
43:52
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43:58
Speaker 1: Is recognized as a twin in a Blossom Award recipient
44:01
Speaker 1: through the White Dress Project, a ten Ambassador of Change
44:04
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44:11
Speaker 1: the White House Drum Major Service Award under President Barack Obama.
44:15
Speaker 1: She's a woman on the mission to change your life
44:17
Speaker 1: and the world around her. Her book Breakthrough sold separately Debated,
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Speaker 1: number one and Amazon. Please welcome to money Making Conversation.
44:26
Speaker 1: Could call him my daughter, could call him my lamente,
44:29
Speaker 1: can call a lot of great things and it's all positive.
44:31
Speaker 1: Please welco on the show. Brandy Harvey, thank you so
44:34
Speaker 1: much for having me. It feels surreal. Yeah, it feels
44:38
Speaker 1: a bit surreal to be here with you. Like absolutely
44:41
Speaker 1: so many years, so many years. You've known me since
44:44
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, absolutely going to college Hampton Hampton, then
44:48
Speaker 1: Ohio State pledging Delta, the leading black black student union campaign.
44:55
Speaker 1: She's always this person I gotta change lives. Absolutely now.
45:00
Speaker 1: So you're up here, you know social media just to
45:03
Speaker 1: a funished door by her and a twin sisters in
45:06
Speaker 1: the early State about two thousand and seven. They was
45:09
Speaker 1: they were struggling socially now, you know, And and I
45:13
Speaker 1: told him I say, look, uh, I give you, I
45:16
Speaker 1: give you five dollars. Think of that five thousand. If
45:18
Speaker 1: y'all could just get the five thousand followers five thousand
45:22
Speaker 1: and gave us a book, gave us this yellow social
45:26
Speaker 1: media one hundred ways or something to up your social
45:30
Speaker 1: media game or something like that. And we failed miserably.
45:35
Speaker 1: I mean they actually walked away from it, actually stopped
45:37
Speaker 1: talking to me. You know, they didn't dried a little bit.
45:39
Speaker 1: You know, try, we failed. We failed miserably. It was
45:43
Speaker 1: not our calling. Then now, what is your social media numbers? Now?
45:46
Speaker 1: My friends, so uh on beyond her, I met over
45:50
Speaker 1: twenty thousand followers from my Active Wellness brand and then
45:53
Speaker 1: from my personal I am Brandy Harvey on Instagram. I
45:56
Speaker 1: have over a hundred thirty thousand Instagram followers. Yeah, hundred
46:04
Speaker 1: and thirty eight thousand Instagram followers. Yeah. Okay, that's called
46:08
Speaker 1: brand growth. That is definitely brand growth. Because I remember
46:11
Speaker 1: when I had one from a person who stopped talking
46:16
Speaker 1: to me about the social media. You know, you put
46:18
Speaker 1: so much pressure on us in the office. I remember it.
46:21
Speaker 1: It was Carly and I it was it was some
46:23
Speaker 1: other people for Trees. She put a lot of pressure
46:26
Speaker 1: on us during that time for social Actually it was.
46:29
Speaker 1: It was great because I didn't really believe incial the town.
46:33
Speaker 1: I launched it for your dad, and I remember you
46:35
Speaker 1: ran his social campaign. Got it up to this really
46:42
Speaker 1: is not It's not me. I don't want to do that,
46:44
Speaker 1: and that's what this book is about. This. The book
46:46
Speaker 1: is about you can do a lot of things good,
46:49
Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily mean that's a long term that's
46:51
Speaker 1: gonna make you happy. I'm going to fulfill your dreams
46:55
Speaker 1: and more importantly than it may not be your calling,
46:58
Speaker 1: tell us why you wrote the book, because that was wanted.
47:00
Speaker 1: The main takeaway to that guy from the book, You
47:03
Speaker 1: know why I wrote this book is because I wanted
47:06
Speaker 1: to You know, I'm a teacher at my heart and
47:09
Speaker 1: my core, and I wanted to teach other women how
47:12
Speaker 1: to break free in their lives, to have their own breakthrough,
47:15
Speaker 1: to jump over the hurdle of being unstuck, of staying
47:19
Speaker 1: with the victims story that's kept you stuck for so long.
47:22
Speaker 1: I wanted to help women break free from the food bondage,
47:26
Speaker 1: you know, because so many of us are stuck eating
47:29
Speaker 1: and drinking ourselves into like a coma. Every single day
47:33
Speaker 1: trying to suppress the emotions and so and then spiritually,
47:37
Speaker 1: I think so many black women in particular have been
47:41
Speaker 1: you know, um, really hurt by the church, been hurt
47:44
Speaker 1: by religion. And so I wanted to have this book
47:47
Speaker 1: offer up a piece for you to find that inner
47:50
Speaker 1: spirit because when you find that inner wheel, you know it,
47:55
Speaker 1: you can move forward in your life. Now, when you
47:58
Speaker 1: stay moved forward in your life? What that me because
48:00
Speaker 1: it means a lot to a lot of different people.
48:02
Speaker 1: I just wanted to find the words that you're trying
48:05
Speaker 1: to emote from your book. You know. When I when
48:09
Speaker 1: I sat down to write the book, you know, I
48:11
Speaker 1: started the book because I was fired. And I opened
48:14
Speaker 1: the book telling the story of being fired from my
48:17
Speaker 1: dad's UM foundation. And so now most people are like
48:24
Speaker 1: blown away, like how do you get fired from your dad?
48:28
Speaker 1: And I was fired, and I knew that I was
48:31
Speaker 1: not living up to my highest calling and potential. I
48:34
Speaker 1: knew that there was so much more that I wanted
48:36
Speaker 1: to do with my life and be of service to
48:38
Speaker 1: other people. Um. And I think that was a moment
48:41
Speaker 1: for me that I had to get unstuck and move forward.
48:44
Speaker 1: Because some let me talk about let me because I
48:47
Speaker 1: was there for this, and we had many conversations in
48:52
Speaker 1: my office lunchtime because you you were really conflicted about,
48:58
Speaker 1: you know, divinity going in that direction, going to theology school. Yeah,
49:03
Speaker 1: we had and I was looking at really really because
49:06
Speaker 1: I hear this conversation and then and then also the
49:09
Speaker 1: whole aspect of the prospect of running the foundation. You know,
49:13
Speaker 1: we did the camps and downsidually to Atlanta. Those are
49:17
Speaker 1: things you were just good at. That's how I just
49:19
Speaker 1: talking about. You were just talented. It was a passion
49:21
Speaker 1: that you believed in, but that wasn't your passion and
49:24
Speaker 1: so and so I always felt that any advice I
49:27
Speaker 1: gave you really would have been confusing because of the
49:30
Speaker 1: fact that even though you you spoke these words all
49:34
Speaker 1: you're very articulate, you're very prominent in your tone, that
49:37
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's what you wanted to do. And so
49:40
Speaker 1: so when I when I hear the fact that you know,
49:42
Speaker 1: you were terminated as the executive director of the foundation,
49:46
Speaker 1: that doesn't shockmate, because we had these conversations and so
49:49
Speaker 1: all along. At certain times I was saying, people get
49:53
Speaker 1: fired or just waiting for you to do their do
49:55
Speaker 1: your job. It's all you're doing, just waiting. But what
49:58
Speaker 1: we don't want to do is get here the Yeah,
50:00
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to hear the work. But
50:03
Speaker 1: way back when you knew what was coming, and all
50:08
Speaker 1: the signs were there, all the signs, this is not
50:12
Speaker 1: worth frustration and complaining, motivation and begredguingly doing your work.
50:18
Speaker 1: You're planning other things during those people's times. You know,
50:21
Speaker 1: you're using those people's cubicles and computers. Absolutely, and that's
50:27
Speaker 1: that's why. That's why I thought that whole portion of
50:30
Speaker 1: the idea of you opening the book talking about determination
50:34
Speaker 1: part and there were some personal things that you talk about.
50:36
Speaker 1: But believe it, that's happening every day in America. People
50:40
Speaker 1: are going to work. Yeah, um, what you're doing over there?
50:43
Speaker 1: Uh long breaks uha, tying up other employees time with
50:48
Speaker 1: conversation that means nothing to be the company fold and
50:53
Speaker 1: then you they are going, I want to I want
50:55
Speaker 1: to confront the issue. That's why I loved about you. Here.
50:57
Speaker 1: You are in the wrong, you know all the time
50:59
Speaker 1: in the but you're confronting issue. You tell me why
51:02
Speaker 1: I'm firing, Well you kind of know, but yeah, and
51:08
Speaker 1: that's that's so. I so I found a humorous because
51:12
Speaker 1: I know people do this all the time, but not
51:15
Speaker 1: like you. But it's not like you. You want to
51:18
Speaker 1: hear the words come out. Yeah, And I think that's
51:21
Speaker 1: what so many of us do. We don't understand that
51:23
Speaker 1: we've we've had the moment of closure, right, but we
51:26
Speaker 1: need to know. I need to hear it, and you know,
51:29
Speaker 1: give me what I'm looking for. Know the closures already happened.
51:33
Speaker 1: And so many times we miss out on the things
51:35
Speaker 1: that we're supposed to do with our lives because we're
51:38
Speaker 1: waiting for someone to give us an answer to the why,
51:42
Speaker 1: you know, when we should just move on. But here's
51:44
Speaker 1: the funny part about it. When you eventually get the why,
51:48
Speaker 1: there's more conversation. It's among the conversation. And so so
51:51
Speaker 1: that's why I was fascinating and I found your book
51:54
Speaker 1: I feel is a must read. And I think it's
51:56
Speaker 1: a must read because I did not see another version.
51:58
Speaker 1: Because I feel that when you do all is interviews
52:00
Speaker 1: like interviews with me, you see how expansive it is
52:04
Speaker 1: as far as in the corporate world, in the small
52:08
Speaker 1: business world, because we're dealing with employees and we're dealing
52:12
Speaker 1: with poor decisions as we make as owners, as supervisors,
52:16
Speaker 1: as management because of the fact that what you did
52:19
Speaker 1: personally is what every employee is doing in America. They
52:24
Speaker 1: in denial about them being the real problem, in fact
52:28
Speaker 1: is you could have resolved everybody's problem if you just
52:30
Speaker 1: say I resigned. Absolutely, I didn't want to do that,
52:34
Speaker 1: and don't We want to hold onto things when they're
52:36
Speaker 1: no longer serving us, they no longer fit us, they
52:39
Speaker 1: no longer are part of our space, but we want
52:42
Speaker 1: to hold onto them because we are afraid. We're afraid
52:45
Speaker 1: to get out of the boat of mediocrity and walk
52:47
Speaker 1: on water. Okay, So how did the title come about?
52:50
Speaker 1: And I love the walcome waterpart because the reason I
52:53
Speaker 1: like that because it feels impossible. Yeah, you know, and
52:57
Speaker 1: that's part you know, from from the Bible. Yeah, it
53:00
Speaker 1: was definitely a spiritual undertone to it. Um. I came
53:04
Speaker 1: up with it. You know, I actually did this message
53:06
Speaker 1: UM back at a retreat in Arizona. I was speaking
53:10
Speaker 1: at a wellness retreat and I was trying to, you know,
53:13
Speaker 1: come like with what the message was going to be
53:16
Speaker 1: because I was a closing keynote and it really just
53:20
Speaker 1: I was headlining. I am I come from a line
53:24
Speaker 1: of headliners, you know, and so I was I was
53:29
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I was going to talk about,
53:32
Speaker 1: and it was so many things physically that we happened
53:34
Speaker 1: to me during that time. But I remember just coming
53:37
Speaker 1: out of meditation and I was quiet, and I started
53:40
Speaker 1: thinking about like batteries being sold separately, right like when
53:44
Speaker 1: you the words Christmas would be like for parents when
53:47
Speaker 1: you you buy the gift and then there's no batteries included,
53:50
Speaker 1: and so the toys just sitting there. But then I
53:52
Speaker 1: started thinking about like how people come to retreats and conferences,
53:56
Speaker 1: and they come to retreats and conferences and they think
53:59
Speaker 1: that the breakthrough is going to be included. That I paid,
54:02
Speaker 1: I pay for the ticket, I pay to get here,
54:04
Speaker 1: and now that you're supposed to give me the breakthrough,
54:06
Speaker 1: the breakthrough supposed to happen. But that's so separate, that's
54:09
Speaker 1: not included. And so in order to get the breakthrough
54:12
Speaker 1: in your life, you're going to have to test your faith.
54:15
Speaker 1: Brandy Harvey, I will believe me. I will be talking
54:18
Speaker 1: to some people for you. Look at, look at I'm
54:20
Speaker 1: the right person. Have you managed me. I'll just let
54:24
Speaker 1: you know I'm so impressed with you. Thank you for
54:27
Speaker 1: coming on money making conversations and that means so much
54:29
Speaker 1: to me, so much. I appreciate you. Thank you, Brandon,
54:33
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