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Congress Refers James & Hunter Biden for Criminal Prosecution · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: The GOP is now saying that Hunter Biden and James Biden,
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  Speaker 2: that would be the President's brother and son, are now
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  Speaker 2: being referred for criminal charges to the Department of Justice.
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  Speaker 2: This is what it sounded like when it broke on Fox.
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  Speaker 3: Foxers Alert breaking right now, three House committees have officially
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  Speaker 3: sent criminal referrals to the Justice Department.
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  Speaker 1: Allegend.
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  Speaker 3: President Biden's son Hunter and his brother James both lied
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  Speaker 3: to Congress when they sat for closed door interviews just
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  Speaker 3: months ago. And that's where we are at two o'clock
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  Speaker 3: pm Eastern time.
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  Speaker 4: The shairs of the HASH Judiciary, Oversight, Ways and Means
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  Speaker 4: Committee claim it was all a calculated effort to shield
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  Speaker 4: President Biden from their impeachment inquiry. They are recommending the
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  Speaker 4: DOJ act on the criminal referrals and charge the two Biden's.
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  Speaker 3: All comes John, just one day after the Attorney General
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  Speaker 3: took a defiant tone against accusations of a two tiered
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  Speaker 3: justice system.
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  Speaker 2: These criminal referrals make it very clear that the GOP
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  Speaker 2: is doing everything in their power now to hold the
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  Speaker 2: Biden crime family accountable for line to Congress. The House
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  Speaker 2: committees have issued these criminal referrals to the Justice Department,
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  Speaker 2: specifically concerning Hunter Biden and James Biden's allege false statements
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  Speaker 2: to Congress about key aspects of the impeachment inquiry of
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  Speaker 2: President Joe Biden. The alleged false statements have to do
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  Speaker 2: with Joe Biden's knowledge of and role in his family's
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  Speaker 2: influence peddling schemes. Now, what I'm about to break down
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  Speaker 2: for you, I need you to share on social media.
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  Speaker 2: Please take this show and put it on social media
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  Speaker 2: everywhere because the met will not be covering this because
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  Speaker 2: it's so damning to Joe Biden. Now, what this involves
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  Speaker 2: is they say an influence pedaling scheme, and it appears
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  Speaker 2: to be a quote calculated effort to shield the president
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  Speaker 2: from the impeachment inquiry. That is what the House Oversight
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  Speaker 2: Chaired James Comer, and the Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan, and
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  Speaker 2: the Ways of Mains Committee chair Jason Smith Smith have
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  Speaker 2: said about this criminal referral Matt Gates walking out in
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  Speaker 2: front of Capitol Hill giving more insight saying this.
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  Speaker 5: I think that Jim Biden likely provided false information to Congress,
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  Speaker 5: particularly regarding some of the China deals. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: with Hunter Biden, I think it's the moneylaundering stuff with
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  Speaker 5: an election right around the corner, Impeachment doesn't necessarily have
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  Speaker 5: to be the only tool in the toolkit.
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  Speaker 2: That coming from Congressman Gates about this now, Hunter allegedly
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  Speaker 2: falsely suggested that he was not the corporate secretary for
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  Speaker 2: Rosemont Seneca, that is the company that I've told you
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  Speaker 2: about quite a few times on this show. Documents, however,
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  Speaker 2: released by the Ways and Means Committee reveal a corporate
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  Speaker 2: resolution that was signed by Hunter Biden as the quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote acting secretary of Rosemont Seneca LLC. Furthermore, the committee
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  Speaker 2: asked Hunter about foreign payments into the Rosemont Seneca account.
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  Speaker 2: The Oversight Committee said back in May quote according to
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  Speaker 2: evidence provided by an IRS whistleblower, Hunter Biden was the
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  Speaker 2: beneficial owner of the entities associated bank accounts.
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  Speaker 1: That is where he lied to Congress.
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  Speaker 2: They also say that that wasn't the only lie told
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  Speaker 2: by Hunter Biden. Hunter also allegedly lied about who he
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  Speaker 2: spoke with about leveraging, specif pecifically, his father's name and
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  Speaker 2: his father's influence over the US government to rake in
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  Speaker 2: money from CEFC China Energy Company. The Oversight Committee explained
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  Speaker 2: back in May quote. Hunter also claimed that Chairman Zoo
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  Speaker 2: he was messaging on WhatsApp is not the same Zoo
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  Speaker 2: connected to CEFC. These were the messages where Hunter stated
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden was sitting next to him. According to phone
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  Speaker 2: records released today, Hunter only communicated with one Zou Raymond
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  Speaker 2: Zou in the exchange we asked about. Not only did
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  Speaker 2: the same Zoo respond, but his message threat indicates he
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  Speaker 2: knew exactly what Hunter Biden was talking about. Hunter went
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  Speaker 2: on to message zou phone number for months regarding matters
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  Speaker 2: directly related to CEFC, meaning that Hunter Biden lied to
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  Speaker 2: Congress about who he was speaking with, trying to cover
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  Speaker 2: for the President of the United States of America.
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  Speaker 1: That is a direct lie under oath.
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  Speaker 2: They're saying, Wow, he was testifying to Congress, or I
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  Speaker 2: should say, being questioned to Congress.
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  Speaker 1: Now I've got more about James Biden.
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  Speaker 2: younger brother. I would call him the original bagman for
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden, But when they started doing the most extreme deals,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't willing to take those risks, and Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: stepped in. Now Congress is alleging that Joe Biden lied
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  Speaker 2: as well, and James Biden lied when he said he
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  Speaker 2: never had any involvement Joe said or any direct or
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  Speaker 2: indirect financial interest in the family businesses. That was a
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  Speaker 2: lie to Congress. Joe Biden did have involvement. We know
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  Speaker 2: this from records. We know this from phone messages, We
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  Speaker 2: know this from emails. We know this from pictures that
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  Speaker 2: were taken with business associates of Hunter and James Biden.
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  Speaker 2: We also know this from those that were involved in
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  Speaker 2: business that said under oath that Joe Biden was the
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  Speaker 2: big guy and knew what was going on with every
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  Speaker 2: aspect of the family business. Tony Babolenski, for example, a
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  Speaker 2: former Biden associate and whistleblower, told Congress Hunter Biden, in
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  Speaker 2: his own transcribed interview, confirmed that that meeting took place.
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  Speaker 2: He said, at the time, Hunter confirmed his uncle perjured
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  Speaker 2: himself in front of this committee quote unquote. The committee
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  Speaker 2: was so shocked by his perjury that they asked in
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  Speaker 2: the same question multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: Bobolinski stated each.
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  Speaker 2: Time he denied meeting with me and Joe Biden, after
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  Speaker 2: the committee showed him text message confirming that quote unquote.
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  Speaker 2: In May, Chairman Smith slammed the Bidens for their statements,
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  Speaker 2: saying quote lying during sworn testimony as a felony offense
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  Speaker 2: that the Department of Justice has prosecuted numerous individuals for
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  Speaker 2: in recent years, and the American people expect the same
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  Speaker 2: accountability for the son of the President of the United
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  Speaker 2: States quote unquote. Now, since opening the probe, House investigators
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  Speaker 2: have revealed that Joe Biden received lots of money direct
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  Speaker 2: payments that were directly tied to money that was coming
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  Speaker 2: into the Biden crime family. That is another lie from
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden who said he never made a dime off
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  Speaker 2: of any of his brother or son's business dealing. We
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  Speaker 2: know that a dozen Biden family members have received payments,
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  Speaker 2: including the President of the United States of America, directly
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  Speaker 2: from his son and directly from his brother. Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: received money from James and Hunter Biden. That's a fact.
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  Speaker 2: The White House lied to the American people about that,
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  Speaker 2: and James and Hunter Biden apparently lied under oath about
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  Speaker 2: it as well. They also showed the nine additional Biden
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  Speaker 2: family members received payments from the family's foreign business ventures,
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  Speaker 2: including two of Joe Biden's grandchildren. That is what we
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  Speaker 2: call money laundering. Now, the House Oversight Committee has just
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  Speaker 2: released their letter that has gone to Merrick Garland, the
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General, as well as the Honorable David Weiss, the
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  Speaker 2: US Special Council and United States Attorney in Delaware that
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be in theory investigating some of the
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  Speaker 2: Biden crimes. I have that letter and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: read it for you for the first time as I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting it in front of me. It seys and this
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  Speaker 2: comes again from Congress, from the Oversight Committee to your
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General Garland and Special Council Weiss. The House Committee
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  Speaker 2: on Oversight and Accountability, the House Committee on the Judiciary,
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  Speaker 2: and the House Committee on Ways and Means are investigating
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  Speaker 2: whether sufficient grounds exists to draft articles of impeachment against President.
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  Speaker 1: Biden for consideration by the full House.
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  Speaker 2: Specifically, the committees are investigating the present's role in and
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  Speaker 2: knowledge of his family's international influence peddling schemes that have
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  Speaker 2: generated over eighteen million dollars for the Biden family members
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  Speaker 2: and their related companies, and over twenty seven million when
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  Speaker 2: including the payments to their business associates, who often were
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  Speaker 2: used to transfer funds directly to Biden family members. The
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  Speaker 2: figure does not include additional eight million in loans, most
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  Speaker 2: of which have not been repaid to Robert Hunter Biden,
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  Speaker 2: known in parentheses as Hunter Biden and James Brian Biden
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  Speaker 2: parentheses James Biden, the President, son, and brother respectively. In total,
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  Speaker 2: since twenty fourteen, the committees have accounted for over thirty
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  Speaker 2: five million dollars received by Biden family members, their companies,
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  Speaker 2: and business associates, which include financial transactions described.
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  Speaker 1: As quote unquote loans.
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  Speaker 2: Despite much effort, the committees have not identified legitimate services
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  Speaker 2: warranting such lucrative payments. The amount of money the Biden
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  Speaker 2: family has received from concerning companies and individuals is alarming,
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  Speaker 2: the Judiciary Committee, Ways and Means Committee and Oversight Committee
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  Speaker 2: say in this letter. They go on to write this,
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  Speaker 2: in furtherance of the impeachment inquiry, the Oversight Committee and
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  Speaker 2: the Judiciary Committee have interviewed multiple witnesses regarding President Biden's
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  Speaker 2: knowledge of and involvement in his family's business dealings, including
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  Speaker 2: Biden family associates and Biden family members themselves, namely Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden in and James Biden. On February twenty fourth, the
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  Speaker 2: letter states, twenty twenty four, the Oversight Committee and the
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  Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee conducted a transcribed interview with James Biden, who
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  Speaker 2: was accompanied by Council. On February the twenty eighth, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, the Oversight Committee and the Judiciary Committees conducted
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  Speaker 2: a deposition with Hunter Biden, who testified under oath and
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  Speaker 2: also was accompanied by Council. The Committee's attached to this
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  Speaker 2: letter a referral for criminal charges.
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  Speaker 1: Let me read that again.
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  Speaker 2: The Committee's attached to this letter a referral for criminal
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  Speaker 2: charges again hunter Biden and James Biden under eighteen USC
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  Speaker 2: false statements and additionally for Hunter Biden under eighteen us C.
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  Speaker 2: Dash sixteen twenty one perjury. As the attached referral shows,
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden and James Biden made provably false statements to
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  Speaker 2: the Oversight Committee and the Judiciary Committee about key aspects
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  Speaker 2: of the impeachment inquiry and what appears to be a
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  Speaker 2: conscientious effort to hinder the investigation's focus on President Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: So what they're saying clearly this letter is you guys
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  Speaker 2: lied to Congress trying to cover for your brother, to
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  Speaker 2: cover for the president of the United States of America.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they're accusing them of now, and they're saying,
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  Speaker 2: we have the proof to back it up. The letter
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  Speaker 2: goes on to say this, specifically, Hunter Biden falsely distanced
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  Speaker 2: himself from a corporate entity, Rosemont Seneca Boa LLC and
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  Speaker 2: its bank account Rosemont Seneca Boa Bank Account in parentheses
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  Speaker 2: that was the recipient of millions of dollars from foreign
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  Speaker 2: individuals and foreign entities who met with then Vice President
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  Speaker 2: Biden before and after transmitting millions to the Rosemont Seneca
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  Speaker 2: Boa Bank account and then transferred the funds to Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden directly. Hunter Biden made additional false statements as to
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  Speaker 2: whether he held positions at Rosemont Seneca Boa LLC. After this,
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  Speaker 2: deposing Hunter Biden, the committees obtained documents showing that Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden represented that he was the corporate secretary. Additionally, Hunter Biden,
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  Speaker 2: during his testimony relayed an entirely fictitious account about threatening
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  Speaker 2: text messages he sent to his Chinese business partner, while
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  Speaker 2: invoking his father's presence with him as he wrote the messages.
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  Speaker 1: Now you may remember, by the way, the DOJ.
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  Speaker 2: Refused to allow with those messages GPS coordinates to find
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  Speaker 2: out if, in fact, Hunter Biden was sitting next to
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden when he sent that message and they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: allow it, as the deep state, the DOJ protected the President.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go back to the letter.
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden told the Oversight Committee and the Judiciary committees
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  Speaker 2: that he had transmitted this threat to an unrelated individual
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  Speaker 2: with the same surname, so he directly and flat out
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  Speaker 2: lied to Congress to protect Daddy. However, the letter says,
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  Speaker 2: documents released by the Committee on Ways and Means demonstrate
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  Speaker 2: conclusively that Hunter Biden made this threat to the intended individual,
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  Speaker 2: and bank records prove Hunter Biden's Chinese business partners wired
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars to him after his threat of his
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  Speaker 2: father coming after them in his position of power. A
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  Speaker 2: portion of the proceeds had been traced to Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 2: bank account as well, meaning there was a direct payoff
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  Speaker 2: for Joe Biden. With respect to James Biden, he stated
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  Speaker 2: unequivocally during his transcribed interview that Joe Biden did not
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  Speaker 2: meet with mister Tony Bobolinsky, a business associate of James
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  Speaker 2: and Hunter Biden, in twenty seventeen while pursuing a deal
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  Speaker 2: with a Chinese entity known as CEFC China Energy. Specifically,
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  Speaker 2: James Biden stated he did not attend a meeting with
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and Tony Bobolinski I made the second,
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. These statements were
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  Speaker 2: directly contradicted not only by mister Bobolinski, but also Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 2: So to be clear, Hunter Biden has now busted accidentally
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  Speaker 2: his own uncle in the lie to try to cover
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  Speaker 2: for Daddy. Mister Bobolinski also produced text messages that established
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  Speaker 2: the events leading up to and immediately following his meeting
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  Speaker 2: with Joe Biden on May the second of twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: So that also says that you guessed it. The presence
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  Speaker 2: brother directly lied to Congress. All right, let me take
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  Speaker 2: I want to get back to the letter now and
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  Speaker 2: what they continue to say. As they sent this over
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  Speaker 2: to the DOJ and to the Attorney General Merrick Garland
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  Speaker 2: and the Special Prosecutor David Weiss, Hunter Biden and James
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  Speaker 2: Biden made materially false statements. The letter continues to the
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  Speaker 2: Oversight Committee and the Judiciary Committee, as demonstrated by the
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  Speaker 2: evidence presented in the attached referral. The nature of these
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  Speaker 2: false statements is not lost on the committees. Every instance
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  Speaker 2: implicates Joe Biden's knowledge of and role in his family's
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  Speaker 2: influence pedaling skills. Hunter Biden denying his affiliation with Rosemont
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  Speaker 2: Seneca Boa Bank accounts scates, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can never say that damn word.
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  Speaker 2: I can hear it in my head, but I can't
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  Speaker 2: say it. Offuscates the account to which foreign individuals who
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  Speaker 2: met with Joe Biden transmitted the funds. Similarly, Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: creating from whole cloth a fiction in which he transmitted
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  Speaker 2: a threat to the wrong individual appears to be an
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  Speaker 2: attempt to hide the fact that invoking Joe Biden succeeded
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  Speaker 2: in coercing his Chinese partners to send him money. It
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  Speaker 2: also calls an a doubt Hunter Biden's other testimony about
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  Speaker 2: that event, such as his contention that his father was
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  Speaker 2: not in fact sitting next to him when he transmitted
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  Speaker 2: the message. James Biden's denial that Joe Biden's meeting with
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  Speaker 2: James Biden, Hunter Biden, and Hunter Biden's business associates for
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  Speaker 2: a Chinese transaction is also a problem. Tony Babolenski took
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  Speaker 2: place with that meeting de despite evidence being placed in
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  Speaker 2: front of him and being given multiple opportunities to amend
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  Speaker 2: his response, appears to be a clumsy attempt by Hunter
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  Speaker 2: to protect Joe Biden from the reality that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: has indeed met with his family's business associates Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 2: The letter continues, and James Biden provided false testimony to
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  Speaker 2: the Oversight Committee and the Judiciary Committee in what appears
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  Speaker 2: to be a conscientious, calculated effort to insulate Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: from the duly authorized impeachment inquiry. The committees recommend that
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  Speaker 2: both Hunter and James Biden be charged under eighteen USC
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  Speaker 2: one zero zero one false statements, and additionally that Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden be charged under eighteen Uscix D sixteen to twenty
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  Speaker 2: one perjury. The Department of Justice should consider Hunter Biden's
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  Speaker 2: prior alleged criminal activity when evaluating whether to charge him
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  Speaker 2: for the false statements described in the attached Because Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Biden was federally indicted in two different jurisdictions at the
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  Speaker 2: time of his congressional deposition, he was also subject to
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  Speaker 2: two federal court orders stating that he could not commit
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  Speaker 2: any crimes while on federal supervised release. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: your prompt attention to this matter. That going to the
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  Speaker 2: Honorable Merrit Garland and the Honorable David Weiss from the
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  Speaker 2: House Oversight, Judiciary and Ways and Means Committee. So let
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  Speaker 2: me just recap for you, simply putting it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Lie Number one is this during his deposition, Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: made false statements about holding a position at Rosemont Seneca, Boa,
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  Speaker 2: corporate entity that received millions of dollars from foreign individuals
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  Speaker 2: and then entities that met with the then Vice President
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden before and after he left office. So that's
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  Speaker 2: line number one. Just so you understand Lie number two.
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, during his testimony, relayed an entirely fictitious account
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  Speaker 2: about these threatening messages he sent to his Chinese business partner,
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  Speaker 2: demanding millions of dollars that were then wired within ten
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  Speaker 2: days after invoking his father's presence with him as he
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  Speaker 2: wrote the messages. That is lie number two and then
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  Speaker 2: line number three. During James Biden's transcribed interview, he stated
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  Speaker 2: that Joe Biden did not meet with Tony Bibolenski, a
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  Speaker 2: business associate of James and Hunter Biden, in twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 2: while pursuing a major deal with the Chinese energy firm
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  Speaker 2: entity known as CEFC China Energy. His statements were contradicted
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  Speaker 2: by Hunter Biden himself.
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  Speaker 1: Health they were lying the entire time, and.
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  Speaker 2: They were selling access to their dad and brother to
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  Speaker 2: the highest bidders in the world. That is what was
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  Speaker 2: actually happening here. Now that's not the only problem that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: has now come about. There is another problem that has
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: also happened, and it was a problem today that came up.
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  Speaker 2: It was a problem under the House Judiciary Committee with
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the Attorney General Merrick Garland there and it involves the
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  Speaker 2: issues of the audio tape recordings with a special prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: her when he was questioning the President of the United
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  Speaker 2: States of America about his documents classified documents have been
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: holding for decades that were found at multiple places, including
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: his garage next to his corvette. I want you to
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  Speaker 2: listen to this back in fourth when he was questioned
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  Speaker 2: about this. Uh again, this happening at the same time
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  Speaker 2: that this colonel referral was going over, Garwin was in
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  Speaker 2: front of Congress.
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  Speaker 1: Listen carefully.
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  Speaker 6: The reality is mister Herr, special counsels her found that
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  Speaker 6: Chris then former Vice President President Biden, had retained and disclosed.
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  Speaker 7: Classified information. Isn't that true? Mister Herr has presented a
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  Speaker 7: long report. Isn't that true?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, come on, I'm practically quoting right from and you.
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  Speaker 7: You wouldn't disagree with.
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  Speaker 8: All necessary with I'm not going to comment on his report.
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  Speaker 8: He sets forth. I appointed him to investigate my locations
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  Speaker 8: about classified documents.
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  Speaker 6: So the reason that we end up talking over you
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  Speaker 6: is because a simple question like that goes unanswered.
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  Speaker 7: You're non responsive.
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  Speaker 6: You're non responsive to the question because that is what
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  Speaker 6: what mister Hurr found. And then he also found and
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  Speaker 6: you're not going to like this because I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna quote from it from.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: This he said.
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  Speaker 6: He basically says here that he found mister Biden to
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  Speaker 6: be sympathetic, and uh there. He is a well meaning
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: elderly man with a poor memory, and so he made
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: a prosecutorial decision that he wasn't going to prosecute.
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  Speaker 7: Are you going to dispute that. You're not disputing that,
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  Speaker 7: are you mister HER's report?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, you're gonna say it stands on his own. Okay,
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: so it stands on no, because you don't. You're not
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: intent on answering. You want to be non responsive. You
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: want to filibus.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: I like to answer your question. Do you dispute that?
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  Speaker 6: So let's just face it, mister Biden has not been prosecuted.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, That's correct.
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  Speaker 6: And the rationale given by mister Her is because he
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: was a sympathetic, well meaning elderly man with a poor memory,
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  Speaker 6: and he thought the jury would have sympathy towards mister Biden.
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  Speaker 8: It was one of the long list of reasons that
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  Speaker 8: mister hur gave for his decision.
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  Speaker 6: Give me one more reason.
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  Speaker 8: He found that I don't want to go get into
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  Speaker 8: a discussion about this, but I will say one of
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: them was that the president was completely cooperative in this matter.
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  Speaker 6: That that's the reason.
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  Speaker 8: Huh okay, all right, well that's the issue of the
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: reason issue.
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  Speaker 1: That was the issue, the issue.
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  Speaker 7: That we have here.
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  Speaker 6: You don't want to give us the audio tape, you
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: don't want us to have the recording, But ultimately the
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: issue is whether the transcript actually supports the Special Council's determination. Now,
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: your office has has basically played two things in court,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: claiming number one executive privilege and number two this kind
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: of interesting novel approach saying fake deep fakes AI? Right,
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: did you did they consult? Did you did your stafford
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: who filed that? Did they consult with you about the
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: deep fake AI rationale for not providing the audio to us.
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  Speaker 8: You're mischaracterizing the filing that was one of us. Again,
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: a substantial number of arguments made in a freedom of information.
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  Speaker 6: To consult with you, specifically about that idea, that notion
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: where they were going to say something like quote this
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  Speaker 6: is from the pleading the passage of time and advancements
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: in audio, artificial intelligence and deep fake technologies only applied
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  Speaker 6: concerns about malicious manipulation of audio files close quote did
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  Speaker 6: they consult with you about that provision?
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  Speaker 8: I'm not going to talk about internal department deliberations.
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  Speaker 7: That was one of a large number.
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  Speaker 8: Of explanations in the document you're talking.
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  Speaker 6: About, and I'm talking specifically about that particularized rationale, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: you don't want to discuss it, which is why you're
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: non responsive, and that's why we need the audio. And well,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: let me explain why, because your attorney also said that
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: you did alter the transcript, and they said it was
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: filler words, repeat words and and I I. But you
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  Speaker 6: know what, we don't know whether they're the blank he
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: said there were blank times where there was silence. We
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: don't know whether those were one minute long, two minutes long.
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  Speaker 6: We don't know if he sputtered for and and and
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: and and because those were edited out. We do not
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: know whether this supports and substantiates mister Hurr's findings. By
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: the way, you want to rely mister Herr, you need
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: to go back and listen to his testimony. Mister Hurr
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: was pretty conclusive there that we have that this that
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: he had a poor memory, He was not able to
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: answer all the questions substantively. The transcript may be accurate,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: but you know what the audio would tell us so
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: much more, which is why, which is why the Supreme
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Court in the case that you poop pooed when mister
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: fitz Fitzgerald was asking about they said, look, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: if they're editing that's gone on here, that's the rationale.
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  Speaker 7: And there was editing. Your own office.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: Admitted it, but you won't admit it today. You've been
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: non responsive and that's why we need the audio, and
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: that's why you're here.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: You'll back.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, this is what a full blown cover up looks like.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: From your Attorney General of the United States of America.
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  Speaker 2: They edited the tape or edited, i should say, the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: transcript so that it wouldn't give us accurately what's on
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  Speaker 2: the tape, and now they're refusing to let us hear
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the tape to see exactly what happened.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: This is corruption at the highest level. I'll say it again.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Take everything I'm giving you and put it everywhere on
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: social media. Share the podcast so that people can hear
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: this because the media is not going to play for
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: you what I just did. I'll see it back here tomorrow.