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John Hope Bryant and Shopify, creating one million new black businesses. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: present to you. My next guest, John Hope Bryant, is
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Speaker 1: the founder, chairman, and chief executive officer of Operation Hope, Inc.
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Speaker 1: A global nonprofit headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia. Birth just under
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Speaker 1: three decades ago in response to the despair and destruction
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Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Riots and Spurson starts at home.
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Speaker 1: We should all understand that at such an early age,
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Speaker 1: the fact that his mother told him she loved him
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Speaker 1: every day ensured that he didn't have a self esteem problem.
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Speaker 1: The fact that his dad was a business owner for
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Speaker 1: fifty four years gave him a real example of being
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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. So through him he had the sense of this,
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Speaker 1: yes I am, and yes I can. John Holt brian
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Speaker 1: work has been recognized by five past US presidents and
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Speaker 1: he has served as an adviser to three past sitting
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Speaker 1: US presidents. A mentor too many, Brian is dedicated to
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Speaker 1: sharing his failures and successes in life and business to
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Speaker 1: empower the next generation of entrepreneurs and world changers. Please
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Speaker 1: work with the money making conversation, my friend John Hope,
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Speaker 1: Brian here with Shaw to be with you. Man. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for doing what you're doing, but thank you for getting
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Speaker 1: on this call. So where yet right now? And what's
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Speaker 1: at the top of the list in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the pandemic. For you. I am in Atlanta, Georgia, which
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Speaker 1: I believe is the moral center for America. Is the
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Speaker 1: moral capital for America. That's where we got our It's
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Speaker 1: where the Civil War was concluded, the March to the Sea,
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Speaker 1: the battle for the March of the Sea, is where
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Speaker 1: civil rights for black people, where it was born with
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Speaker 1: the civil rights movement. Uh It's where the largest population
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Speaker 1: of black wealth is today, which I think is the
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Speaker 1: beginning of what I call the silver Rights movement. S
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Speaker 1: I L V E. R. Moving in the in the
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Speaker 1: suites about economics, power, ownership, and opportunity that matches and
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Speaker 1: movement in the streets, which is about basic decency and
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Speaker 1: dignity respecting access. Uh So, I just think we're sitting
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Speaker 1: in the moment in history, my man, but we don't.
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Speaker 1: We don't see it for what it is at the moment. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about the black wealth, you
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Speaker 1: know the Tulsa riots, I shouldn't say the riots of
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Speaker 1: the massacre when he had a black wall Street in
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Speaker 1: Tulsa and the blacks were being um stopped from achieving
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Speaker 1: success financially, socially and being recognized for their intelligence, their
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Speaker 1: ability to be entrepreneurs. And that's what we're fighting today.
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Speaker 1: We're fighting the message that we participate. How can we
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Speaker 1: overcome the stigma that you know, I want to have
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Speaker 1: to say this right America keeps trying to say black
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Speaker 1: people don't participate. Well, we gotta get our minds right, man.
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons that I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do your show, and one of the one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons I bought. I wrote the book, Uh it's now
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Speaker 1: bestseller that came out a little in a month ago,
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Speaker 1: called Up From Nothing. They untold story of how we
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Speaker 1: all succeed. It's all about mindset. Let's go back from
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the Tulsa example you gave. You know,
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Speaker 1: I get frustrated with people saying Tulsa, oklah Home the
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Speaker 1: black Wall Street, because that's every street in white America.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was nothing, you know, posted the community,
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Speaker 1: which was a devastation, which was horrible, which was which
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Speaker 1: was humiliating, disgusting, every negative thing you can think about
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Speaker 1: what was done to us. But the aspiration that we
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Speaker 1: achieved on that street, and it was just a just
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Speaker 1: a few blocks. It was a community, a local community
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Speaker 1: that should be every community in America, not one middle
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Speaker 1: place in Oklahoma that we point to from a hundred
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Speaker 1: years ago. The fact that the blacks of white families
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Speaker 1: passed down wealth and generation and generation, and it's in
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Speaker 1: wealth creation has become a habit with our mainstream Caucasian friends. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And the differentiation between making money and building wealth is everything.
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Speaker 1: You know. Making money you do from nine to five.
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Speaker 1: Building wealth it's what you do from nine to five,
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Speaker 1: nine pm to five pm. Me. So you hustle, you
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Speaker 1: you earn your listing from nine to five. You may
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Speaker 1: have a part time hustle from five to nine, but
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Speaker 1: you actually build wealth in your sleep from nine to five,
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Speaker 1: nine pm to five am. It stocks its bonds, it's
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Speaker 1: business investment, it's entrepreneurship. It's education because it compounds in
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Speaker 1: your sleep. It's compounding its rental income. You build welcome
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Speaker 1: your sleep. Nor ever taught us this. We're we as
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Speaker 1: you already know, we are brilliant. When the rules are
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Speaker 1: published in the plane to this level, we succeed. But
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Speaker 1: it's what we don't know that we don't know this
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Speaker 1: killing is, but we think we know. And Ambassador Andrew
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Speaker 1: Young who was on that balcony with Dr King when
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Speaker 1: he was assassinated. My mentor and friends said, to live
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Speaker 1: in a system of free enterprise and not to understand
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Speaker 1: the rules of free enterprise just must be the very
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Speaker 1: definition of slavery. Wow, let me let me ask you
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Speaker 1: did John again? Thank you for coming on to show
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Speaker 1: the discuss. What we're talking about is a black entrepreneurs
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Speaker 1: and black recognition being saying that we are we're good citizens,
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Speaker 1: we pay taxes, we want the same thing you want,
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Speaker 1: you know, living in an environment where we could be
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Speaker 1: saving come home and nobody's broken in our homes. And
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Speaker 1: as soon as that that message doesn't get resonated enough
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Speaker 1: because it keeps being blindsided, Le'm gonna go back a
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Speaker 1: little bit. In I moved to Los Angeles from New
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Speaker 1: York in two I was actually living in l A.
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Speaker 1: I was on the morning show on Steven Won this
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Speaker 1: radio station on KJL are my best friend, Robin Group,
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Speaker 1: that's what we're doing that And so I got to
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Speaker 1: drive down Crenshaw when it all was going down, and uh,
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Speaker 1: that's where I first encountered black people without a fear
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Speaker 1: or trying to save their business. Started saying, Uh, this
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Speaker 1: is a black owned business. This is a black owned business.
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Speaker 1: This is the black owned business. Now that's the nineteen
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Speaker 1: as two. We had the vivid video of a black
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Speaker 1: man and beat several times by several police officers, and
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Speaker 1: then we see a black man eight minutes being strangled
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Speaker 1: to death on video, same video. Yeah, what I say
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Speaker 1: that the city of Los Angeles set on fire the
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Speaker 1: country like whole military was sent in to shut it down.
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Speaker 1: What do you think is making a difference today? Because
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Speaker 1: white people didn't participate in any civil change, but now
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Speaker 1: you see white people participating in civil change. And change
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Speaker 1: can only happen if everybody recognizes there as a problem. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so you've you've unpacked, as I would expect from from
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Speaker 1: a high frequency thinker like you. You unpacked, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, Marilla, And a huge question, um, and I'll
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Speaker 1: try to answer it succinctly. There's a question within a
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Speaker 1: question within a question. Right. Uh So, in my in
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Speaker 1: my book I talked about so life is ten percent
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Speaker 1: with like does to you and not even how you
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Speaker 1: choose to respond to it. I put that in my book. Well, leaderships,
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Speaker 1: what's your response going to be? So let's just go
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Speaker 1: back permitted to the trauma because because we've been traumatized,
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Speaker 1: we've been we've been abused in this country as as
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Speaker 1: African Americans. But my Jewish friends were, as an example,
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Speaker 1: were also likewise not only abused. There was attempted extermination.
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Speaker 1: The third of them were targeted for extermination by Hitler.
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Speaker 1: But so, but they went into that that battle with
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Speaker 1: different tools and we had. They came out of that
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Speaker 1: battle with different tools and we had. They decided to
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Speaker 1: fight that battle with ownership, capitalism, economics. Uh. In fact,
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Speaker 1: they were not allowed to own land in Europe. Jews work,
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Speaker 1: so they created finance so they could finance for land
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Speaker 1: and create portable wealth literally finances portable wealth. And they
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Speaker 1: went into that battle with five what I call five
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Speaker 1: pillars of success. As much educations you can shove down
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Speaker 1: your throat, understanding the math, economics, ownership, entrepreneurships. In trammidacy
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Speaker 1: of all things, you talk about family structure and resiliency,
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Speaker 1: self esteem and confidence. As you know those two things
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Speaker 1: are different. Self esteem is how you esteem your self. Confidences,
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Speaker 1: how you think your competence, and leading it into the
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Speaker 1: world in role modeling an environment. Right, So they had
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Speaker 1: those things tight going in and they and they have
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Speaker 1: them tight coming out. But they decided to fight because
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Speaker 1: they're Jews today are being stabbed and murdered and enlynched
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Speaker 1: around the world. But they decided to fight their fight
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Speaker 1: with economics, ownership and opportunity in in my opinion, uh,
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Speaker 1: in an economic world. So that was the right response. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And they and they've demanded you know, even respect, you
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Speaker 1: could say earned it whatever with our ourn respects. They
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Speaker 1: demanded respect. You had poor whites who came here from
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Speaker 1: Britain who came here the same time as we did
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Speaker 1: as indigenous servants. Um, and they're still poor today. No
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Speaker 1: one taught them to be industrious, but they had the
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Speaker 1: benefit of being white. The word white was a made
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Speaker 1: up word, literally the European royal class. No one made
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Speaker 1: this word up but us in America in a way
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Speaker 1: to differentiate in their early sixteen hundred's poor whites from
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Speaker 1: their poor black brothers and sisters, so they wouldn't collaborate together.
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Speaker 1: We're on time for that story, will put it aside
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Speaker 1: for a minute. So African American who as you know,
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Speaker 1: came here as geniuses of the land. That's why we
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Speaker 1: were brought here from Africa because we were agricultural geniuses.
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Speaker 1: We get plant seed, soil and grow crops anywhere in
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Speaker 1: the world. So we weren't dummies. We were geniuses. But
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Speaker 1: when they got we got here, they dumbed this down.
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Speaker 1: They stripped us of that self esteem and that confidence.
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Speaker 1: They demanded us they they demanded, they denied us the education.
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Speaker 1: The Freedom's Bank of eighteen sixty five that Abraham Lincoln
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Speaker 1: created the teach free slaves about money. After the Civil War,
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Speaker 1: he was killed the next month. The bank fell into disrepair,
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Speaker 1: even though further Douglas tried to run it. People don't
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Speaker 1: even know uh that that that the further Thoas was
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Speaker 1: a business man that he owned real estated Baltimore, Maryland.
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Speaker 1: They just think he was an abolitionist um and he
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Speaker 1: and he put ten thousand odors on money in that bank.
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Speaker 1: But that bank sales, and no one taught us to
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Speaker 1: netual literacy on our family structure was was destroyed. Our
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Speaker 1: resiliency as a result of that was denied. Or says
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Speaker 1: it was never built. Self esteem in the toilet wrote
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Speaker 1: confidence came from the wrong sort of things, which were
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Speaker 1: things that blame, things that shine uh in role models
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Speaker 1: were you know, Okay, let's put at our role models
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Speaker 1: the two areas we succeeded, and I'll shut up here.
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Speaker 1: We're really at scale the arts. You know, you work
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Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey who was also friends the arts and
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Speaker 1: professional sports. Why the rules were published and the plane
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Speaker 1: field was leveled, so we killed it because the rules
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Speaker 1: were published in the plane there was level the capitalism,
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Speaker 1: which is nine of the GDP of this country in
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Speaker 1: the world that's left over nowhere were taught of that game.
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Speaker 1: So you combine the five pillars we didn't get with
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Speaker 1: the game that we don't understand, and you end up
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Speaker 1: in the situation that you find we find ourselves in
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Speaker 1: where these in place black murders by police and unfortunate shootings,
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Speaker 1: where it's five hundred credit score neighborhoods. We have a
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Speaker 1: check casher next to a payday loan lender, next to
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Speaker 1: a rent to own store, next to a title lender,
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Speaker 1: next to a liquor store, next to a pawn shop,
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Speaker 1: and at the church down the street, trying to make
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Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better once a week. I
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Speaker 1: called that an official psychologist because we want admit that
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Speaker 1: we Craig Craig, we won't go get real health. And
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Speaker 1: I think that if you're black today, therefore COVID nineteen
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Speaker 1: of us would be clinically undiagnosed depressed for good reason.
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Speaker 1: So what so COVID just just sort of took it
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Speaker 1: even made you more resilient, and you double down on
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Speaker 1: the right mentality called a winning mentality. You have that,
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Speaker 1: you've got a winning mentality and you've got a hunter's roll.
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Speaker 1: You se, you got that, and that's why that's why
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Speaker 1: you continue to succeed. But most of our people have
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Speaker 1: a surviving mentality and in an observer spectators role, that's
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Speaker 1: the problem. We've got to get our heads back in
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Speaker 1: the game. We gotta Malcolm exit. We've been bamboozer, we've
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Speaker 1: been tripped, we've been cooled, right, come on now, hoodwink.
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Speaker 1: So that's why that's why I'm all about financial literacy
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Speaker 1: at scale, black ownership of businesses and the way to
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Speaker 1: social justice at scale. I'm all go ahead, So let
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Speaker 1: me ask you this, John. You know that because what
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Speaker 1: you're saying is absolutely correct, and what I wanted to
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Speaker 1: get on the additional response to you was that we
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Speaker 1: had a video in ninety two Rodney King. And then
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Speaker 1: we had a video of two thousand and twenty UM
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Speaker 1: George Flare, George Gloria. The nation saw the same video
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Speaker 1: in l a burn down. The Bush sent in the
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Speaker 1: military to shut down the situation and then move forward
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Speaker 1: in people are white? People are reacting differently. Was it
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Speaker 1: COVID being shut down being a seein of being able
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Speaker 1: to talk amongst each other, or society has become more
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Speaker 1: interracial now they're willing to be able to communicate honestly
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Speaker 1: about the flaws of America. What made this movement different?
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Speaker 1: It's fear. It's fear in your own house. And what
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Speaker 1: I mean by that is and by the way, there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of uh what I call, you know,
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Speaker 1: very very good Caucasian collaborators and supporters out there that
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Speaker 1: we should give them credit for. I mean the Partment
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Speaker 1: with the Urban League, that was when the urban was
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Speaker 1: created through blacks and whites, the Responsible Whites Partment with
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Speaker 1: the in the creation of the Indo acp Responsible White
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Speaker 1: departnered with blacks, in the creation of Operation Hope and
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Speaker 1: so many other organizations. So I want to make sure,
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Speaker 1: just sure that that that that statement is out there,
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Speaker 1: that this is not a white versus black conversation. But
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Speaker 1: your question, once again is very insightful, and the answer
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Speaker 1: is that they understand where at the where at the
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Speaker 1: end of kicking this can down the road, that it's
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Speaker 1: not going to hurt them if we don't we don't
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Speaker 1: solve this. That in Europe, you had the European families
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Speaker 1: taken over when wealth got to one or two percent
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Speaker 1: of concentration of all wealth. That's not sustainable. And they
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Speaker 1: until we were before COVID and before the economic crisis
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Speaker 1: and before the Swarded Earro Social Justice recording, you had
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Speaker 1: this this widening of the wealth and income inequality gap.
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Speaker 1: But you know it was it was five percent, it
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Speaker 1: was ten. But we now realize that every hundred years
15:53
Speaker 1: you have you have a reset in this country. So
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Speaker 1: you had the independence from Britain in seven Circus seventy seventeen,
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Speaker 1: circuit seventeen seventy let's be fair at A seventeen sixty five,
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Speaker 1: seventeen seventy five. Then you had the Civil Rights Movement
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Speaker 1: Circus six a hundred years later, sixty sixteen. Uh, sorry,
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Speaker 1: let's go and sorry, the story the Civil War my
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Speaker 1: bad eighteen eighteen five. Then you had the civil rights
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Speaker 1: movement the sixties, nineteen sixties. Every hundred years, this one
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Speaker 1: is early. This was early. By thirty years. Everybody realized
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Speaker 1: that the moment is pregnant and what the question is,
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Speaker 1: what are we gonna give birth to? Is it chaos
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Speaker 1: to call Dr King? Or is it community? His last book?
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Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? So anybody who's thinking
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Speaker 1: right now, anybody who's thoughtful, anybody who has wealth and
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Speaker 1: wants to keep it, anybody who wants democracy and wants
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Speaker 1: to sustain it, is looking at a society that's coming across,
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Speaker 1: coming coming apart at the scenes. Because hope is not
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Speaker 1: equal be distributed to all of God's children. We're not
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Speaker 1: keeping the competition to building right, not even not not
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Speaker 1: even by a liberal definition of that is not sustainable.
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Speaker 1: So my I tell my rich friend, my rich friends
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Speaker 1: state rich. So there's there's enough police to save you.
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Speaker 1: If police have I'm sorry if people have lost hope.
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Speaker 1: So I think that is the short answer, is that
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Speaker 1: not a hand out strategy. It's about recognizing black folks
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Speaker 1: as untapped GDP gross domestic product. That discrimination racism against
20:25
Speaker 1: blacks has cost this country sixteen trillion dollars with the
20:28
Speaker 1: t and lost GDP in the last twenty years. City
20:32
Speaker 1: Group report of two weeks ago. It also showed that
20:35
Speaker 1: they just knocked it off right now, the country would
20:38
Speaker 1: gain another five trillion dollars of GDP over the next
20:41
Speaker 1: five years. That's enough to pay off the care at
20:44
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen stimulus money for the whole country. So I'm
20:48
Speaker 1: looking at this this challenge through an economic lens. I
20:52
Speaker 1: think that's the right lens to solve it, to get
20:54
Speaker 1: everybody on deck. And so if you have three million,
20:57
Speaker 1: just under three million black businesses in America. But nine
21:02
Speaker 1: percenters they don't have an employee. Pause. I want people
21:07
Speaker 1: to think about that, all right, how could you get
21:10
Speaker 1: the Care Act money, the PPP money, which was designed
21:13
Speaker 1: for employers who have employees with overhead. If you're working
21:18
Speaker 1: from home with no employees, you missed that boat. Altogether.
21:21
Speaker 1: It struck me that we have no books and records.
21:25
Speaker 1: We've got no business manager, we've got no accountant, no
21:29
Speaker 1: cp A, we've got no proper banker. I don't mean
21:32
Speaker 1: to teller at the local bank branch. I mean a
21:35
Speaker 1: private banker who knows who you are and curate your involvement. Welcome.
21:45
Speaker 1: We we don't, we're not We're not building well. We're
21:49
Speaker 1: on a tread mill, trying to get paid, getting paid,
21:52
Speaker 1: getting some money, getting some paper. All that's these phrases
21:55
Speaker 1: that we use is winning the battle and losing the war.
21:59
Speaker 1: We need to be built building wealth. You can't build
22:01
Speaker 1: wealth without compound, and can't compound without something other than you,
22:05
Speaker 1: in this case, employees, technology, infrastructure systems. So I decided
22:11
Speaker 1: to not just complain about it, to trying to do
22:12
Speaker 1: something about it. So we partnered together with Shopify, the
22:17
Speaker 1: second largest e commerce retailer in the world, the largest
22:21
Speaker 1: company in Canada, and they committed a hundred and twenty
22:24
Speaker 1: seven million dollars at our Whole Global Forum last week,
22:27
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty seven million dollars over ten years
22:30
Speaker 1: to help Operations Hope stand up one million new black businesses.
22:35
Speaker 1: So people people can go to one MBB operating type.
22:39
Speaker 1: They can type into computer one mbb is searchable now,
22:43
Speaker 1: or go to Hope one mbb dot org or Operation
22:47
Speaker 1: Hope dot org and right now step into the new
22:51
Speaker 1: reality of business ownership for themselves and their children and
22:58
Speaker 1: their children's children, the creation of Well, I'm gonna get
23:03
Speaker 1: into what that all this means, but that's the back
23:06
Speaker 1: story of what we're doing. And we're and and Shapifi
23:08
Speaker 1: is not the only company involved. It's made that first
23:11
Speaker 1: major commitment. We're doing wrap around services which include accountants.
23:17
Speaker 1: We're giving us time bank commitments of two hours for businesses.
23:22
Speaker 1: We know. Just really interesting that you're saying this because
23:26
Speaker 1: I remember na need to open a comedy club. I
23:28
Speaker 1: just opened it, John, Okay, I didn't have an accounting
23:31
Speaker 1: in place, I didn't understand by human resources. I didn't
23:35
Speaker 1: even have job applications and I was hiring people. Okay,
23:38
Speaker 1: I had no system in place. And that's what you're
23:39
Speaker 1: talking about. As far as being an entrepreneur, you have
23:42
Speaker 1: to document that you're an entrepreneur in order to be
23:44
Speaker 1: recognized as an entrepreneur. In order to get loans, you
23:47
Speaker 1: have to have separate bank accounts. In other words, if
23:50
Speaker 1: you have a personal bank account, you should need to
23:52
Speaker 1: open up a business bank account. This is how you
23:54
Speaker 1: become recognized as a business person. And I used that
23:57
Speaker 1: named to an example because just like you, I'm on
24:00
Speaker 1: to tell people how I've made mistake in order to
24:02
Speaker 1: tell people how I recovered from those mistakes that I made.
24:05
Speaker 1: Nobody's perfect as a as an entrepreneur. I don't care
24:08
Speaker 1: who you're talking to. Talk to Bill Get You, talk
24:10
Speaker 1: to Warren Buffet. They've all made miscalculations on the stock
24:13
Speaker 1: or miscalculation on business position. But we have to understand
24:16
Speaker 1: that that happens. But you have to have to understand
24:18
Speaker 1: that you have to have the infra infrastructure in place
24:21
Speaker 1: in order to be respected and ought to be recognized
24:24
Speaker 1: as an actual business. And that's where black people in
24:26
Speaker 1: general get frustrated and they're quick to call racism because
24:30
Speaker 1: they're not giving the same opportunity. But they're also not
24:32
Speaker 1: giving the same opportunity because they don't have the right
24:34
Speaker 1: plan in place. And that's what you're talking about. What
24:36
Speaker 1: we're talking now, we're talking so so as racism real.
24:40
Speaker 1: And then this is again, this is what I go
24:42
Speaker 1: I go through deep in my book for nothing is
24:46
Speaker 1: it's a certain degree. We're shooting ourselves in the foot. Now.
24:49
Speaker 1: Racism is absolutely real. Racism like rain, it's either fall
24:52
Speaker 1: into place or gathering. Okay, unbrelling the color you're like
24:57
Speaker 1: and start strolling too it because it's not gonna change,
24:59
Speaker 1: but you so you must. But why does our Nigerian
25:02
Speaker 1: black friends come here and kill it in three years?
25:05
Speaker 1: Why do our Ethiopian black friends are are you know?
25:09
Speaker 1: Jamaican black friends come here? They're blacker enough. They come
25:12
Speaker 1: here and they and they in three years they own
25:14
Speaker 1: the whatever little you know, three three three Uber cars
25:18
Speaker 1: their own. We all get a relation as a as
25:21
Speaker 1: a hard worker, a person who's willing to hold down
25:25
Speaker 1: fifteen jobs. And that's what you were talking about earlier,
25:27
Speaker 1: nine to five, five to nine, nine to nine, twenty
25:31
Speaker 1: four hours. They learn how to use each hour and
25:34
Speaker 1: that's what black people are not being being, not taking
25:37
Speaker 1: that mantle of acceptance that you know, we're willing to
25:40
Speaker 1: work hard to achieve our dreams, where the mantle in
25:43
Speaker 1: the streets is that black people are lazy. Black people
25:46
Speaker 1: are always looking for handouts. Well, when you say when
25:49
Speaker 1: you talk about Africans, or you talking about Jamaican from
25:51
Speaker 1: the Caribbean or all these other people who look like
25:54
Speaker 1: us tend to come over here and accept the accept
25:57
Speaker 1: criticism they walk through that you criticize me, that's not
26:00
Speaker 1: gonna stop me from my dreams. And that's all you're
26:03
Speaker 1: saying right now is that we have to change the
26:05
Speaker 1: mindset and also be willing to say that's not me.
26:08
Speaker 1: Let me show you who I am. That's right, Wow, John,
26:12
Speaker 1: come on, man, keep talking preaching. Not one, not one
26:16
Speaker 1: to answer to. My self worth and self esteem depends
26:19
Speaker 1: on your acceptions of me. That's Quincy Jones. Is not
26:22
Speaker 1: what people call you? Is what you answer to toe
26:24
Speaker 1: That's important. Never ever answer out of your name. That's
26:27
Speaker 1: Dr that's Dr Chip Murray First Davie Church in Los Angeles. Uh.
26:32
Speaker 1: Life is not what life does to you, is how
26:35
Speaker 1: you respond to it. That's me I take no for vitamins. Okay,
26:39
Speaker 1: that's me. You know, an entpreneur works eighteen hours thing
26:43
Speaker 1: to keep getting your job. That's me. You know, uh,
26:46
Speaker 1: you know, success is going from failure to failure without
26:48
Speaker 1: loss of enthusiasm. That's me. The point is that you've
26:52
Speaker 1: got to have the right mental uh recruitment and mental
27:00
Speaker 1: activity and mental and mental standing and mental and mental
27:04
Speaker 1: tie a tunement. You gotta be teen to succeed. So
27:09
Speaker 1: this in the book I talked, I talked about this
27:12
Speaker 1: this U I make the story real quick. But this guy,
27:14
Speaker 1: Mike Maples, I was saying, you know, he's one of
27:17
Speaker 1: the top ten ntual capitalist and Silicon Valley man. Tell
27:19
Speaker 1: me about your story. Oh nothing, he said, A just
27:21
Speaker 1: a normal story. I said, I'd ask you that. Tell
27:23
Speaker 1: me your story. He said, Well, my dad, you know,
27:25
Speaker 1: worked at Microsoft. What did he do? Oh, he worked
27:27
Speaker 1: with bial Games. Okay, everybody worked at deal gags technically,
27:29
Speaker 1: what did your dad do? So it gets around to
27:31
Speaker 1: the short version of the story. He was number three
27:33
Speaker 1: in Microsoft under the real Gags to the president of products.
27:36
Speaker 1: So he's a big deal in Microsoft. So he's at
27:39
Speaker 1: home and he started a video game business. At thirteen,
27:43
Speaker 1: at sixteen years fairly successful. So he goes to his
27:46
Speaker 1: dad and he says this, Hey, dad, I think about
27:49
Speaker 1: selling this company to Disney. Now. Uh, you and me,
27:53
Speaker 1: if we had a child, or even a fifty year
27:56
Speaker 1: old cousin who said that, we would be sean we
27:59
Speaker 1: would be up plotting them. Right, Okay, they started this
28:03
Speaker 1: disness against they got the audacity to say, you're gonna
28:05
Speaker 1: set up the Disney so unite agreement. We'd be applauding that, correct. Okay,
28:11
Speaker 1: the father said, I'm ashamed of you. The father told
28:15
Speaker 1: Mike Lagel's Jr. I'm ashamed of you. We don't think
28:17
Speaker 1: like that in our household. And lou Mike, what do
28:20
Speaker 1: you mean that? He said, young man in our house.
28:23
Speaker 1: So we don't. We don't follow the agenda we said it.
28:25
Speaker 1: You're not gonna use your company to be to be
28:29
Speaker 1: sold to Disney. You're gonna use your company to buy Disney. Now. Now, now,
28:41
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether the kid was gonna buy Disney
28:43
Speaker 1: or not. It's relevant. The point is that now the
28:46
Speaker 1: kid thinks he can buy Disney. Yes, yes, so the kids.
28:52
Speaker 1: So the kid grew up to be somebody who who
28:55
Speaker 1: is now one of the top ten venture capitalists in
28:57
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley who's financing everybody else us his dreams of
29:00
Speaker 1: people who believe they can buy Disney or build Disney.
29:03
Speaker 1: My point is we've got to get our here. We
29:05
Speaker 1: we've been, We've been sucker punch Man. As a group
29:08
Speaker 1: of people, we are brilliant, we are amazing. Again, look
29:12
Speaker 1: at the arts and look at sports where we have
29:14
Speaker 1: that confidence, that self esteem, and we got all the
29:16
Speaker 1: tools right, we kill it. We've been killing it in
29:19
Speaker 1: if one racing now, I mean, what the mascar if
29:23
Speaker 1: one raising tennis of it? We're all in the golf. Uh.
29:27
Speaker 1: But but no one stopped to give us the rules
29:29
Speaker 1: of the game. And you're trying to unpack that. I'm
29:33
Speaker 1: dealing with the book up from nothing, the work of
29:35
Speaker 1: Operation Hope, the financial coaching sessions in twenty states of
29:39
Speaker 1: Operation Hope, the work of one million black business initiatives,
29:42
Speaker 1: this thought leadership of the of the New Marshal Plan.
29:45
Speaker 1: I believe this is the third reconstruction. Right now, two
29:49
Speaker 1: things before before we wrap up here. One, I want
29:52
Speaker 1: to make a statement about how can people participate in
29:56
Speaker 1: the one m b B Because you can search you
30:00
Speaker 1: go on Google to tap it in. But I want
30:02
Speaker 1: to make a statement about when you said his dad said,
30:05
Speaker 1: looks on you should want to buy Disney because you
30:08
Speaker 1: look at YouTube. When they sold, they thought they were
30:11
Speaker 1: selling for a lot of money. But then you look
30:13
Speaker 1: at what YouTube is now when they look back, they
30:17
Speaker 1: go wow, okay, okay. And you can even go to
30:23
Speaker 1: to the selling the b T. That was a lot
30:25
Speaker 1: of money. But when you look at what what When
30:28
Speaker 1: you look at what what the infrastructure of content, the
30:30
Speaker 1: infrastructure of streaming, how people are, how black content is
30:34
Speaker 1: restling in the nationwide, the value or b T is phenomenal. Okay,
30:39
Speaker 1: So what he's saying makes sense. You can shut you
30:43
Speaker 1: you're just short selling your dream for a quick check.
30:47
Speaker 1: That check may have millions attached to a billions attack
30:50
Speaker 1: to it. But son or young lady, look at the future.
30:55
Speaker 1: When when Bob Iger Bob Marvel, I didn't I didn't
30:59
Speaker 1: see why he bought Marvel. Look at Marvel now, the
31:02
Speaker 1: biggest franchise a universe, not DC is trying to implement,
31:07
Speaker 1: you know, trying to try to copy. I should say
31:09
Speaker 1: what Marvel has accomplished with that franchise. So it's the
31:13
Speaker 1: visionary part that we are lacking in the black community.
31:17
Speaker 1: We have to become visionaries, not just visionary in the
31:20
Speaker 1: church because we got that lock we got we got
31:23
Speaker 1: the Bible on lock. But from a business perspective, we
31:26
Speaker 1: don't have that on lock because we tend to pray
31:28
Speaker 1: too much and we tend to hope for opportunity into
31:32
Speaker 1: the creed and change. That's what you're talking about with
31:34
Speaker 1: your whole platform, correct, John Well. I wanted to continue
31:38
Speaker 1: to pray, but I wanted also to be dr. Dr
31:40
Speaker 1: Dorothy Heights said, you need to be a dream with
31:42
Speaker 1: a shovel in your hand. And we've got to be
31:44
Speaker 1: as as expert in the suite as we are in
31:46
Speaker 1: the streets. I mean, we're expert at protesting and marching,
31:49
Speaker 1: but that doesn't pay a bill. Being angry with your
31:52
Speaker 1: neighbor doesn't make you any wealth here. You've got to
31:54
Speaker 1: move from the streets to the suite. So three years ago,
31:57
Speaker 1: we don't we don't we run on the time. I know,
31:59
Speaker 1: three years ago, maybe come back to your show. Three
32:01
Speaker 1: years ago. I got you gotta first, John, you gotta
32:03
Speaker 1: come back because I knew nothing about the book. This
32:05
Speaker 1: interview was set up to talk about the one MBB.
32:08
Speaker 1: So I wanted because the end of the year. We're
32:10
Speaker 1: in November right now, so I want to bring back
32:11
Speaker 1: in December because I've read every book that comes to me,
32:14
Speaker 1: and I'll I'll be buying your book to read it
32:15
Speaker 1: because I think that's a great book for us to
32:18
Speaker 1: use the launch lunch of program of what one should
32:22
Speaker 1: be like for young entrepreneurs. But continue your thought. Yeah,
32:25
Speaker 1: so I'll be happy to come back. But the three
32:28
Speaker 1: years ago I decided for those who still didn't think
32:32
Speaker 1: that what I was saying applies to them all, John,
32:35
Speaker 1: you did that in a nonprofit sectors here, But I
32:37
Speaker 1: was an entrepreneur before I did. Okay, never minded me
32:39
Speaker 1: to show you. Three years ago I went and created
32:41
Speaker 1: a real estate company had no assets zero. Today it's
32:45
Speaker 1: the largest minority controlled institutional quality owner of single family
32:51
Speaker 1: rental homes in America, called the Promise Homes Company. I
32:54
Speaker 1: own a hundred and ten million dollars with the real estate.
32:56
Speaker 1: I didn't say a hundred ten thousand, hundred millions in
33:00
Speaker 1: three years with five of my time, because I spend
33:04
Speaker 1: most of my time on this this this paying your
33:06
Speaker 1: rerian operation. Hope not the profit, which I love, but
33:10
Speaker 1: I spend most of my time in the community. I
33:12
Speaker 1: build a hundred ten million dollar portfolio in three years
33:16
Speaker 1: part time of seven hundred rental homes, and I'm running
33:19
Speaker 1: it out to my people at you know, affordable housing
33:23
Speaker 1: rates twelve dollars and months and rent. I'm building that.
33:25
Speaker 1: The point is, what if everybody in the who's listening
33:28
Speaker 1: to your audio podcast is who watched you your videos.
33:32
Speaker 1: What if they decided to buy three homes over the
33:36
Speaker 1: next three years, one to rent and want to live in,
33:40
Speaker 1: to the buy rehab and rent by rehabing holds because
33:45
Speaker 1: they aren't growing anymore land my first bought home, they're
33:48
Speaker 1: worth eighty million dollars. Then they're worth ninety millions, then nineties.
33:52
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything special, nine millions, hundred millions, now
33:55
Speaker 1: now hundred ten millions. If I keep holding it compounding
33:59
Speaker 1: interest in paying for itself, they're paying for themselves with
34:01
Speaker 1: reddly go. The longer I hold it, the longer I
34:05
Speaker 1: keep from cashing out trying to fly little more wealth
34:08
Speaker 1: I create so uh and the more well I create,
34:11
Speaker 1: the more contract I can give. The black four pc
34:15
Speaker 1: of my vendors are black. The landscapers, roofers, lighting companies,
34:20
Speaker 1: painting companies. Uh imaned. So the bigger I grow the portfolio,
34:25
Speaker 1: the more home, the more living way jobs I can provide,
34:28
Speaker 1: the more contracts I can let to black little businesses,
34:31
Speaker 1: the more wealth you create. Absolutely, how can I participate
34:34
Speaker 1: in the one MBB program? John, they go to they
34:38
Speaker 1: start by saying, I'm chicking, tired and kicking type you
34:42
Speaker 1: go to operating hope, put that on the mirror. Put
34:45
Speaker 1: that mantra on your mirror. I'm sick of tired of
34:47
Speaker 1: being sticking ties because you gotta start somewhere, and you
34:50
Speaker 1: have to believe that's why you want to do it.
34:51
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people don't understand the amount of
34:53
Speaker 1: work that's tired. I would tell people, or for the
34:56
Speaker 1: our week job, it's just preparation for you to be
34:58
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. So stop com plainly by what a person
35:01
Speaker 1: is asking you do for the hours a week. Master
35:03
Speaker 1: it and once you master it, then you can become
35:05
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur because you understand how to do business and
35:09
Speaker 1: want you understand what it means to be a professional. Yeah,
35:12
Speaker 1: and understand another good comes easy. So there's gonna be
35:15
Speaker 1: very tough day you want to do this thing we're
35:17
Speaker 1: talking about here. Understand that love is work. Non love
35:20
Speaker 1: is laziness, and anti love is evil. Evil exists with
35:23
Speaker 1: it's very rare. Most people just don't want to do
35:24
Speaker 1: the work. So once you decide that you're willing to
35:27
Speaker 1: do the work of raising a child, of being responsible
35:30
Speaker 1: on the job, in the business, only your own business,
35:32
Speaker 1: whatever it is, being spiritually fit, whatever your think it
35:36
Speaker 1: takes work, then call us. We will put you into
35:39
Speaker 1: will make an investment in you when you when you
35:41
Speaker 1: make an investment in yourself, we will make it. Will
35:43
Speaker 1: make an investment in you. Uh. The investment that per
35:46
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36:24
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36:28
Speaker 1: and we've got Now, we've got these professionals, these accountants
36:31
Speaker 1: and bankers and lawyers who are gonna give you wrap
36:33
Speaker 1: around services. Somebody said to me, what's the hitch, what's
36:37
Speaker 1: the catch? I don't get it. It's real simple. We've
36:40
Speaker 1: sold these companies on the vision that black folks are
36:44
Speaker 1: better than a consumer. We are a trillion dollar consumer
36:46
Speaker 1: spending for us. You know these numbers better than most,
36:49
Speaker 1: But why aren't we at ten trillion dollar economic ownership
36:52
Speaker 1: for uce? When you own that kind of wealth, you
36:56
Speaker 1: spend money, you your vendor, you so versus an accountant
36:59
Speaker 1: giving you free services. In two years, you'll be hiring
37:01
Speaker 1: that account hiring that banker, hiring that insurance professional, and
37:05
Speaker 1: paying shopify versus them giving you a hook up. So
37:09
Speaker 1: I've sold these companies and I'm gonna sell more that
37:13
Speaker 1: we are a good investment, not a handout factory. So
37:18
Speaker 1: you step into your dream and if two years you're successful,
37:21
Speaker 1: you'll be paying for the various services that you're being
37:24
Speaker 1: vested with for free. Right now, that's my bet that's
37:27
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37:30
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37:33
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37:43
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37:54
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37:57
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37:58
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