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Wilder-Chisora and Tim Tszyu's return · Boxing B-Sides

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fucking fights. Etalma, Fundora, we'll get to
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that next time right now. Saul, Josh, my boys,
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how we doing? Glad to be back for another week
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of Boxing B -Sides. Oh, yeah. We are back. We
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got lots of news and not many fights. I am very
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good at scheduling us. I'll have you know. I
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like the news. The news parts are always the
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highlights. Yeah, I want to see. I feel like
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the news parts are the best parts now. It's like
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reading The Onion, except at the very end of
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the headline, you can attach before Virgil Belt.
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And it's funny every time. You know what? I hope
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fucking Trump bombs. Fucking Canada. Oh, my God.
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See, look, we have Mexicans for Trump in this
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podcast. Look at this. Look, he's saying, this
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Virgil, that Virgil. Man, second egg, bro. Jesus
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Christ. Well, I got one for you. You remember
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the cartoon character Speedy Gonzalez that was
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canceled a while back? Well, again, the Mexicans
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brought him back. And now he has a movie. That
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has been greenlit. Speedy Gonzalez returns for
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a movie before Virgil Belt. How's that? Actually,
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it's crazy. I support that. I love that. I love
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Speedy Gonzalez. That's what I wanted to ask
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you guys. What are we feeling about the quote
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-unquote Mexican minstrel show caricature getting
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a movie? Getting a movie? Oh, man. You know what?
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Yeah, I actually like Speedy Gonzalez. What am
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I saying? I liked him. I'm literally one of those
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people. I liked him a lot. I thought he was funny.
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I think it's just representation. It's not the
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most offensive cartoon I've ever seen against
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Mexicans. The old Kreek Kreek cartoons were made
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in Mexico and still more offensive. I just think
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I just see myself as Speedy Gonzalez. I actually
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see myself in that little guy. Weedy Gonzalez.
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Weedy Gonzalez is crazy. He runs on burritos.
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I am him. I am him. I run on burritos. I can't
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help myself. I just wanted to get your thoughts
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on Speedy Gonzalez getting his movie. Fuck yeah,
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dude. I'm still a little miffed that the goddamn
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Chihuahua, Taco Bell Chihuahua, got pulled. I
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hate it just because it's a Chihuahua. So if
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it had been some other type of dog, it would
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have been fine? Yeah. Eh, well. I feel like it,
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yeah. I feel like a Chihuahua represents us the
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best, though. you could have done one of those
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like, uh, annoying. No, like the small guys with
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a Napoleon complex. Yeah. Yeah. There's that,
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um, like that Aztec breed. That's like hairless.
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And it's like a big fucking Doberman looking
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thing. Could have done one of those, but if you,
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if you want it to look more tough anyway. Let's
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move on. A little bit of MMA talk. March 20th,
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One Friday Fights 147. I had to bring this one
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up because my guy Nabil Anand got beat. Holy
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shit. Rambo -like whooped his ass. And he claimed
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the bantamweight Muay Thai title. I think that's
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135 over on their side of the house. Also, in
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the main portion of the card, because they're
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doing like a paid segment and a free portion
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now. Asadula Imangazaliev. Knocked out Nong -O
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is his name. There were a lot of good fights
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on this card. I always recommend them. Because
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Muay Thai, if you like, just... If you're willing
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to deal with a little bit of kicking, a little
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bit of knees, a little bit of elbows, Muay Thai
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is 100 % for you. But Iman Gazaliev, he did not
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come in on weight. So he did not win the title.
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So he's like the number one contender at this
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point. But enough of that. One Friday Fights.
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All of the One Friday Fights cards are free on
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YouTube. I highly recommend them. They're on
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Fridays, no shit. But I recommend checking them
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out. Into the boxing news. Josh, your guy, David
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Allen, will be head... Yes, Mr. Piss Jugs. Mr.
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Piss Jugs himself will be headlining a Queensbury
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card with a quote -unquote top 15 opponent. I
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saw it was Filip Hergovich today. Really? Excellent.
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Yeah. So it's someone he can actually beat. Yeah.
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That's crazy. Hergovich is very beatable. Yep.
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Against a guy like Dave Allen? I don't know about
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that. No one's beatable with Dave Allen. But
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it's more beatable than Zhang. just breaking
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his hand on his head. Like, let's be real, with
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Herkovich, he's plenty vulnerable that, like,
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yeah, Alan can probably just tough it out because
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Herkovich looks like he's sweating all the whiskey
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out in round three. But, like, Zhang would have
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broken, like, the only hope for Alan was for
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Zhang to break his left hand on his skull. And
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there would still be a few rounds to go. Yeah,
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you'd still have to last those rounds cardio
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-wise, too. Well, speaking of Brit stuff, Zufa
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Boxing signs a multi -year deal with Sky Sports.
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Not that much of a surprise when they signed
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Conor Benn. It seemed like the logical direction
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they were going to try to get a foothold in the
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UK. But like Sky Sports, whatever, they've been
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out of the boxing game for a little bit. So it's
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kind of, I don't know. It's a little surprising
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that Sky Sports would sign a boxing deal with
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anyone just because they've been out of the game.
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But I don't know. What do you guys think? Bring
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it on, motherfuckers. You're worst. Here is something
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that I found interesting. Teofimo tweets and
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deletes. Quote, I may never fight again. End
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quote. He does this every fight he loses. Does
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he? Every time he loses, he goes on this. He
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was already doing it before Camposos. These kinds
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of weird breakdowns. I say it every time. My
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man is straight up bipolar. And I say it on Boxing
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Before Dark, but if I ever got a chance to shake
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hands with Teofimo Lopez, I would have a Zoloft
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pill in my hand. I would shake his hand like,
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you want this. I promise you. You want this.
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This will fucking really get you straight. It
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will. I'll just feed him a Big Arch. Big Arch
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burger. I still need to try that. I've heard
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mixed reviews. It's like corduroy couch, honestly.
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It's okay. It does the job, I guess. It's fine.
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Apparently. Pretty much all I've gotten from
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it. I think it's something else. Jared Anderson
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is going to be signing with Queensberry. I had
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heard that there's an opponent already selected,
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but I don't remember who it was that was on the
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rumor mill. Do you guys remember? Actually, don't.
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Who's the... For Anderson? Yeah, Jared Anderson.
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Yeah. I mean, Atama's so obvious. Like, this
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is so obviously, like, let's prop him up for,
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like, two fights and then, like... Let Atama
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murk him? Yeah, basically. Like, it's... Queensbury
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does this a lot. It's not like they're being
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slick about it. I know that they're trying to
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prop him up for sure. Like, they're trying to
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rebuild him. Yeah, it's just... It's kind of
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sad that, like, Top Rank dropped him after the
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one fight with Bacoli, like, what, because he
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went against their suggestion that he shouldn't
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take it? Yeah, like... I think it's mainly after
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that last fight with Martin. Yeah. The hijinks,
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mainly that fight. I think, obviously, after
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Bacoli, I think they were trying to rebuild him.
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He seemed just interested in that rebuilding.
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Well... We'll see. He might be decent again.
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Armando Resendiz will be defending his WBA super
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middleweight title against Jaime Munguia. Apparently,
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like, since we last convened, Resendiz was supposed
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to fight Munguia. That fight dropped out. He
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was supposed to fight Charlo. That fight dropped
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out. And now he's fighting Munguia again. This
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is supposed to be on the Zurdo -Benevides, I
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think the co -main. So that's pretty cool. That's
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a good fight. I like that. I know what we talked
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about last time. I think Munguia wins. I genuinely
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think Munguia takes the fight. Real quick. Is
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Munguia with Goldenboy still or no? I don't know
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what the heck's happening with that. Or is he
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still a top rank? Yeah, I don't know what's happening
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with that right now. Well, his base promoter
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is Xanfer. Who his US affiliate is has changed
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from time to time. It's a good question to wonder
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who the fuck are you with these days. Either
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way, I think Munguia becomes champion after this.
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I don't think Armando Resende's really... I'd
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say it, but Caleb Plant was not a fluke. Well,
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yeah, he was washed. Munguia's chin is cracked,
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though. It's cracked, but at the same time, I
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mean... The Reynoso style, it did work for Munguia
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with his cracked chin, like when he rematched
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Saras. Well, I mean, you also have PEDs, but,
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I mean, that's besides the point. I mean, at
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the end of the day, also, I mean, Resendiz, we're
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also not bringing up how Resendiz lost to Elijah
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Garcia. Elijah Garcia, dude. Do you think? Maybe
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I'm putting too much stock into Garcia that,
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like, maybe people are holding it too much against
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Resendiz to have that loss. I'm sorry, dude.
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I can't imagine a world where Elijah Garcia win
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is better than a Bruce Ross win. Again, Bruce
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Ross is from France. I get it. But Elijah Garcia,
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we know who he is. We know that PBC is propping
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him up. His last fight, I forgot. I think it
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wasn't. Who did he fight? J -Rock? Does it really
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matter? He fought someone, and they robbed the
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other fighter. The other fighter beat him, and
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they robbed him. Because Elijah Garcia freaking
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isn't that great of a fighter. All respect to
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him, but he's kind of not good. Buns? Buns, yeah.
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If he had a hot dog, he'd be the buns. He wouldn't
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be the meat. He'd be the buns. If he was a cheeseburger,
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he wouldn't even be the meat. He wouldn't be
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the tomato. He would be the buns. The buns. Fucking
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metaphors are fantastic. Yeah, I think Munguia
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wins. I don't know. Resendiz, he looked decent
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that last fight, but he didn't look world -beating.
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Bear Knuckle Boxing signs Victor Ortiz and John
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Molina. I'm sure... Go on. This is way better
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than the Pauly Maladagi type that was previously
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getting signed. Yes. This is an upgrade. Yeah,
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these are two better fighters than Pauly. But
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BKB is the... BKB is the retirement league, it
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seems. BKFC, it seems. That when a boxer still
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has just a little bit left, they go to BKFC.
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Because like Austin Trout, Jamel Herring are
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doing work. But BKB is not quite at that level.
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I try to avoid watching bare knuckle shit as
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much as I can anyway. I catch the highlights.
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Oh, yeah, if they come across my... The highlights
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are great when they... Yeah, yeah. Luis Neri
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vs. John Riel Casimero will be happening in April.
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This is a... I think in Kazakhstan, the Kamedas
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are putting on another two - or three -day fight
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festival that includes concerts and stuff. I'm
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not sure what it is that they witnessed for the
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ring or the Riyadh season, rather. What did they
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watch there that they thought was a good idea?
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Because this shit is not. Stop mixing these two.
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Put on a concert? Go ahead. Put on fights? Go
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ahead. Stop fucking mixing them. Nobody likes
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it. Lanier Pero versus Jarrell Miller will be
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taking place in Las Vegas in late April. I think
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Miller just signed a deal with Mattroom. Yeah,
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Miller's kind of... Here, let me verify. He is...
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It's all bullshit about this haircut. Let's see.
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I think it's Matchroom, yes. I'm pretty sure
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it's Matchroom. I had said... I don't remember
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where I said it, but... This hair piece situation
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is like the greatest thing that could have happened
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for his career. At this stage, this is fucking
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perfect. So, of course, he gets signed to a major
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promoter at this point. Chris Colbert vs. Tevin
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Farmer. Washed versus Washed. Yeah, I was trying
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to think of a good way to put it. I hope Farmer
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wins that. It'd be really... I'd never want to
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see Colbert in a huge fight again because it'd
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be hilarious if the last time we saw Colbert
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was the OnlyFans logo on his trunks up after
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Ryo... Sparked him? Yeah, after Ryo ran him over.
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Man, I was thinking I would prefer to see Chris
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Colbert win. I remember when Tevin Farmer was
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first starting to catch notice from the boxing
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social media landscape. We had talked about it
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before, where it's like, discount his first four
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losses, because that happened before anybody
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even knew who it was. Oh, that was here. We talked
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about it here. Yeah, exactly. But since that
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point, like, I was always, I always had a little
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bit of, like, hesitation with accepting Farmer
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as, like, a real contender, you know what I mean?
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So, Chris Colbert is fucking ass. Like, I'm sure
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his chicken joint is better than his boxing,
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but I would prefer to see Chris Colbert, like,
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bounce off of Tevin Farmer trampoline. And get
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himself back into the mix and get fucking sparked
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again. But still, like, just Tevin Farmer, like,
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come on. He has plenty of money. Chris Colbert,
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I don't know if he's sitting as pretty as Tevin.
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No mas. All right. Jordan Martinez, he was on
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the Nav Nunez card. He's a local kid out of Phoenix.
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I wanted to make sure that he got a shout out.
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He got signed to Matchroom, so congrats to him.
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Love to see a local kid doing good. Brandon Lee,
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if you remember him, he signed with Zufa. Well,
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he says he has signed with Zufa. Zufa has not
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confirmed that he has. Zufa might be ashamed.
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Man, it sucks that you're right, because I like
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Brandon Lee. I've always been a fan of his. But
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going to Zufa, I think, is the best move for
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him. As we have said with guys like Mark McSio
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and all the rest of them, steady work. You're
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not going to be challenged all that much. You
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get to be a bigger, not big fish in a little
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pond, but a bigger fish in a small pond. So I'm
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just glad to see Brandon Lee still getting work.
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I like him. But I know he's not great. Hard pill
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to swallow. Part of the fun of a bad bust prospect
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is seeing them step up and lose and find their
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place. And going to Zufa, it's just never going
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to happen. So you're not going to see the bubble
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burst, like, for real? You rob, like, I know
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it's bad to, like, wish the downfall, but that
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just happens with bust prospects, right? But,
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like, the big part of you see, you watch a prospect
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either to see them prosper or to see them crash
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and burn. And when, by going to Zufa, you kind
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of rob whatever fans the guy had of either. I
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think you're right. It's bad. We like to show
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respect to fighters for getting in the ring,
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but as entertainment and personalities. You want
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it to go either to the top or you want it to
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boom or bust. In regards of a facet of the sport,
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which we can separate from just the concept of
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getting into the ring, period. Like you said,
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a boomer bust is what you want and not just he
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doesn't fight for four years and then he goes
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to a promotion where he'll never lose but never
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actually succeed. He's going to stagnate. It's
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not interesting. There's no progress. He's been
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at that point in his career where it's obvious
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he's a bust. It's just he has to step up to be
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exposed. his bust has not been proven yet just
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because he got bailed out a few times so yeah
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you're right um man even still i'm just even
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though he he is a um i'm trying to think like
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a bust mirage i guess like yeah so it's just
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one of those it's like an nba player who like
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instead of like making it to the playoffs and
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choking and everything, he ends up on the team
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that never contends but never tanks either, and
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they pay him way too much. Like, think of Josh
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Giddey. Devin Booker? No, Devin Booker made it
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to an NBA Finals. True, he did. But I'm saying
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Josh Giddey. Josh Giddey's a guy on the Bulls.
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They're so bad, but they're still not trying
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to tank. Like, they think they can actually do
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it. He's getting paid 23... Like, he's getting
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paid a very significant part of their salary
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cap. And it's just to be, like, stats guy. But
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it's not... There's no progress in his career,
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and there's no progress in the team. And, like,
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it's more frustrating than exciting. Because,
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like, there's a difference between, like, you
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overpay a guy... super super much and then they
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bust in the playoffs like there's a storyline
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there so are we in this instance is connor ben
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the guy that you're talking about where you overpay
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him and then he busts in the playoffs like regis
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pro gray fucking sparks connor ben and i like
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that see that's what you demand See? That's what
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I mean. But you see how the storyline is great
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there. Even the prospect of it is entertaining.
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It's just desserts for Connor. Like here, Brandon
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Lee's getting overpaid to go fight bums on Zufa
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and maybe one of them sparks him out. Or he's
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just going to can crush. And then he's going
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to get old and then he's going to retire and
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it's going to be like... Oh, he's going to be
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the Zufa 135 champion or whatever the fuck. Yeah,
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like, who cares? He fights at 140. Right, that's
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what I mean. Like, he's either going to go up
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or down. And the thing is that 140 has been such
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a pretty stacked weight class with the amount
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of people going through it that, like, you would
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have thought he would have been, like, let's
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say, like, when GAR lost to Apoyo. Like, he needs
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a rebound. He could have been the guy for Nahir
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Albright. Like, there's lots of, like, those
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guys that, like, Lee could step up to and, like,
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that, yeah, sink or swim. Oh, yeah. Like, you're
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the trampoline. Like, they're either going to
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bounce off you or you're going to catch them.
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Hmm. Well, kind of, I don't know if we mentioned
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it last time, but Richardson Hitchens. Is allegedly
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going to the dark side. Good riddance. Yeah.
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I'm happy he's gone. See ya, bro. Don't let the
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door hit you on the way out, buddy. Go out and
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find a Zufa where you're going to be paying peanuts.
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He's good. It's just like he's such a negative
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fighter to use. josh's phrase like he's such
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a negative fighter like i can't fucking stand
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him god and it's because he's he has the talent
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he just chooses not to employ it and it's not
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like it's not even like oh he has no power or
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like he's unaware like it's it's so deliberate
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right exactly he's too he's too good you can
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tell he's deliberate in not engaging with George
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Camposos until he has nothing left. I'm not saying
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get hit, but I'm saying... You can do more. You
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can do more against worse opponents. Well, speaking
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of doing more, do you remember Sam Noakes? Good
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old Sam Knows Fod. Unfortunately. Yeah. He will
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be making his return on top -tier boxing on DAZN.
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So that's nice. I think I brought this up. I
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don't know if you guys knew Drip, but he used
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to be on B -Sides with Shanada and myself before
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you guys. Yeah. We met. We reunited on Boxing
27:30
Before Dark, and I brought up top tier, and Drip
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was like, who the fuck are you talking about?
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So they looked it up. It's this promotion. They
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go off on Sundays just to avoid getting in the
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way of major cards, right? But their primary
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matchmaker is Ali Drew. social media personality
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around the like combat sports in the UK. And
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I, I, I had just mentioned like, Oh yeah, I,
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uh, on Canelo triple G three, the fucking fight.
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Nobody wanted to see, but I was still there in
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a media capacity and I was sitting next to Allie
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drew. And it was like, yeah, well, there you
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go. Her and her cameraman. He was upset with
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how salty the popcorn was. Oscar Duarte versus
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Angel Fierro in negotiations for the Zerto Benavidez
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undercard. This is like fucking fireworks. I'm
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really excited about this. Actually, I think
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this is outdated because I think it was actually
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announced to be on the card itself. Oh, so it's
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confirmed. Yeah, it was confirmed along with
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Munguia and Resendiz. And Resendiz, yeah. All
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right, cool. So it's not in negotiations. It's
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actually happening. I think that's what I saw,
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because you know the posters they post? Yeah.
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Their whole card. Sometimes it has projected
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fights, not always what is firm. Yeah. Yeah,
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I got you. But this fight is fucking fireworks.
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Fierro put up an awesome fight against Pitbull.
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And Duarte is going to do what Duarte does. Duarte's
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pretty fun. Yeah, he's going to do what he does.
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So that's a good fight. Last bit. Oleksandr Usyk
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has outlined his last three fights. Number one.
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Rico Verhoeven. Number two, the winner of Fabio
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Wardley versus Daniel Dubois. And number three,
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Tyson Fury Trilogy. What are we thinking? Yeah,
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man, I'm sorry. I don't want to see those fights,
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man. I don't want to see fucking any of those.
30:11
Yeah, I'm sorry, dude. That's Daniel Dubois for
30:15
the third time. He doesn't deserve it. See, I'm
30:17
not defending him. on the selection of fights,
30:20
but I think people are too up in arms over, like,
30:25
the other fights he could have. Like, the contenders
30:28
he does have are not good enough to complain
30:31
about to this extent. You don't think Caballel's
30:35
worth replacing the Wardley Devolver? No, not
30:37
at all. I was watching Caballel get pieced up
30:40
by his last opponent in the second round. Yeah,
30:46
but that's an unknown fight versus... We've already
30:49
seen Tyson Fury. No, I know. I get it. I get
30:53
it. But it's like... Caballel is not good enough
30:58
to be screaming that Usyk is a fraud from the
31:03
top of the rafters. I'm not saying he's a fraud.
31:08
No, I know. I don't approve of the fights, but
31:10
it's a big thing I've seen. Like, on Boxing Twitter
31:14
or Boxing Reddit, where it's like, oh, this affects
31:16
his legacy. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. It's,
31:20
like, let's be real. Like, Muhammad Ali had this
31:24
quality of fights when he was on his way out.
31:27
The only difference is that he actually lost
31:29
one of them. Yeah. He lost to Leon Spinks. Three
31:35
of them, actually. Yeah. Like, you know, but
31:37
I'm saying, like, the actual, like, realistic
31:39
title. Like, during his title run. Near the end
31:43
of his reign. The Leon Spinks duology was like,
31:46
he lost to a guy who was 7 -0 and never all that.
31:52
Well, I mean, I got a pretty crazy take, but
31:57
I mean. Go ahead. What's your take? Actually,
32:02
this is kind of horrendous. But, I mean, if Benavidez
32:06
wants to be, you know, Philly. Go to heavyweight
32:11
fight Usyk. That's some silly shit, but I mean,
32:14
it's not out of the reach. It's not like... I'm
32:18
looking at the fights he had right at the end
32:20
of his career. Yeah, he fought Shavers Norton
32:23
for the third time, but he had those two fights
32:28
with Leon Spinks. He fought Alfredo Evangelista.
32:32
He fought Richard Dunn. These are similar quality
32:35
opponents. Mike, what Usyk's looking at. Like,
32:40
at least... Yeah, but they're all new fights.
32:43
But who cares? But the point is that the contender
32:46
that you're demanding he fight instead is not,
32:48
like, good enough. Like, I'll say the winner
32:51
of Wardley -Dubois is a legitimate world champion,
32:53
unfortunately. Well, I would like to see if Wardley
32:57
wins against Dubois. Yeah, if Wardley wins...
32:58
I wouldn't want to see that one. Yeah, I want
33:00
to see that one. Fury 3 is the only one I'm really
33:03
mad about, honestly. Yeah, I'm more... Yeah,
33:07
my one's definitely... So you get the right to
33:10
your gimmick fight, right? That's Rehoovan. You
33:14
get your gimmick fight, like, I'm sure, like,
33:17
what is it, like, Chuck Wepner was, like, about
33:21
the same quality, right? Yeah, probably, yeah.
33:26
Like, Chuck Wepner's about the same level of
33:29
skill. Like, this Wardley Dubois winner I'm fine
33:33
with because it's a legit contender. Say what
33:35
you will about it being a third fight against
33:37
Dubois. Dubois keeps winning the fights he needs
33:39
to, right? So has Caballel, though. If it's Wardley,
33:44
cool. But if Dubois wins, I prefer Caballel.
33:50
See, I prefer Caballel, too, in Germany. That
33:53
would be crazy. But I also acknowledge that he's
33:57
also just not a good enough contender to be like,
33:59
ah, he's ducking. Like, the legitimate era parent.
34:04
No, it's not to say he's ducking. It's just,
34:06
like, I don't want to see Dubois 3. That's all.
34:09
Yeah, that's fair. Like, I think Cabell has been
34:14
the beneficiary of good matchmaking. True. In
34:19
his high -profile fights. Because, like, technically,
34:23
like, his prime was, like, robbing Derek Chisora.
34:31
Was that really a robbery, though? Yes. And the
34:35
German commission, and the commission in Monte
34:38
Carlo prevented Chisora's team from entering
34:40
the country. I don't think that was really a
34:43
robbery. Have you watched the fight? Well, I've
34:47
seen the fight. It was a long time ago. I've
34:48
seen the fight. I mean, honestly, I think that
34:50
was also before his other fights, too. And you
34:53
could improve as a fighter as well. Yeah, I just
34:56
think, like, Sanchez with one knee, Mahmouda,
34:59
like, guys who are, like, like, cards to be knocked
35:03
down by a style just like Caballos. I mean, I
35:08
agree to a sense that Caballos is benefiting
35:11
from a good match. It reminds me of the Dillian
35:13
White run. Like, when, before, right, before
35:18
Povetkin, like, killed him. Yeah, I don't know.
35:23
I see what you're saying. It reminds me of the
35:25
Dillian White run where he had a good promoter
35:27
who gave him really beneficial matchmaking that,
35:31
like, it looks good, and then you can start complaining
35:34
that the champion is ducking him. Like, at the
35:40
time, Joseph Parker, Oscar Rivas, like, Robert
35:44
Helanious, Lucas Brown, like, they all look pretty
35:46
good. Chisora twice. like it looks good but also
35:55
like you know he's not going to be competitive
35:57
in the slightest with the actual champions fury
36:00
is the one right draw the line i think that was
36:01
ridiculous win loser draw with the fight we're
36:06
going to talk about i would rather see if like
36:10
if we're having to pick between the fury trilogy
36:13
i would rather see usik fight wilder regardless
36:17
of whether he loses to chizora well i thought
36:21
yes was gonna be doing the first place but you
36:22
know that's what i thought too but here we are
36:25
ducking wilder ducking wilder would be a crazy
36:31
take in 2026 oh shit that's um i hope we get
36:37
a youtube comment about that one well you know
36:41
if someone comments about that i guess they don't
36:43
understand freaking satire yeah man i think you're
36:48
right You're not catching the irony in what we're
36:54
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37:00
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reviews, starting with, there's only really one
42:14
fight that I want to point out on this one. MF
42:18
Pro on Friday, March 20th at the SSE Arena in
42:23
Belfast. Michael Conlon retires after dropping
42:28
the ball to Kevin Walsh. Even if he won that.
42:33
He should have retired. Yeah, fuck yeah. Even
42:36
if he won that. That was dog shit. That was straight
42:38
ass, dude. I have come around on Mickey. I had
42:46
previously always held him up as this is a person
42:51
for some reason I do not like. And I cannot give
42:56
you a valid reason why. But... I think it's just
43:00
the entitlement to a... Like, the whole career
43:05
has been entitlement since the Olympics. Or at
43:07
least the perception of entitlement. Since he
43:10
got jobbed at the Olympics, which is fair. Like,
43:12
he showed up entitled to, like, world title shots
43:16
and everything. That might be it. And it's always
43:21
felt... Like, top rank has carried him, like...
43:24
Like, he's owed the world, even though, like,
43:27
he got jobbed once at the Olympics. It's really
43:32
not a big deal. Mayweather got jobbed. Roy Jones.
43:38
Roy Jones Jr. got jobbed by nine judges. In Korea,
43:46
one of them quit, and so did the guy who robbed
43:49
him. The guy who... The guy who benefited from
43:54
the robbery gave him his gold medal. And quit
43:57
boxing forever. This is bullshit. I can't do
44:01
this. Moving to Saturday, March 21st. We are
44:09
starting with Britslop at the Copperbox Arena.
44:15
Just the top two. Jimmy Sainz gets the majority
44:19
decision over Derek Osaze. And George Ladard
44:23
retains his... Maidstone Glovekin, what was it?
44:29
I don't know. Lynn, what did you call him? He
44:34
retains all of his trinkets over Tyler Denny.
44:45
ProBoxTV. In San Bernardino, California. We talked
44:52
about it last time. Jocelyn Camarillo. Camarillo.
44:56
Fuck. Remember your roots, dog. KO1 over Isis
45:02
CEO. Yes, this one. That was the one where we
45:06
were talking about, like, remember that these
45:09
people are putting their lives on the line for
45:12
our entertainment. Isis. It may have developed
45:18
for the better or for the worse at this point.
45:21
I don't know. When you're listening to this,
45:24
the last news that we had was that she's out
45:27
of the coma, eating, off the ventilator, talking,
45:32
responsive. Everything is going well, the last
45:36
that we heard. But by the time you're hearing
45:38
this, I don't know. We can only hope that she's
45:42
doing better. Jocelyn, fucking awesome knockout
45:47
homegirl. Like, good on you, dude. Like, the
45:51
chicks don't often get big KOs like that. Keep
45:57
doing your thing. Yep, keep doing it. Maybe don't
46:01
put people in Tacomas, but... I don't know, man.
46:05
We've cheered on Subrio Matias for too long to
46:07
give this kind of advice. Too fair. Well, Subrio
46:11
Matias also got knocked out himself, so... Yeah,
46:14
but he also killed a guy. Yeah. I can't even
46:19
lie. He just killed a guy. Moving up the bill,
46:28
Sammy Contreras, the guy that we were talking
46:31
about before a few weeks ago that signed with
46:35
Top Rank just recently, they put him out. to
46:39
work on uh pro box and he beat the shit out of
46:43
caesar con 2 damn yeah dude it was fucking rough
46:48
uh albert gonzalez gets a stoppage in one over
46:54
brandon chambers uh joshua anton uh kudratilo
47:00
abdukakarov retires after the first It was weird.
47:06
He was, like, pointing at his head like he had
47:08
a migraine or something. I don't know. He just
47:11
kind of, like, quit, to be honest. So, whatever.
47:20
In the main event, Lester Martinez wins the interim
47:25
WBC super middleweight title over a very tough
47:30
Emmanuel Aleem. That's great. He did. He looked
47:35
really good. Something that Shanada had pointed
47:38
out that I thought was really poignant was this
47:43
is an instance of Lester Martinez demonstrating
47:46
his finesse. Like, he wasn't just going for,
47:50
like, clobber mode. And I think people were,
47:54
because it's Probox, people were expecting clobber,
47:58
rock 'em, sock 'em robots. But. Yeah. Lester
48:04
looked awesome. He looked good. I think, like,
48:07
it's good. And he's carrying on this sort of,
48:10
like, he started picking it up halfway through,
48:12
like, the Nbili fight, where, like, it wasn't
48:15
just the rock him, suck him, club him, but he
48:17
started, you know, slipping shots, finding counters,
48:21
and here it was. Like, I'm not saying Emmanuel
48:25
Aleem is the greatest opponent of all time, but
48:28
I'm saying this is a perfect guy to... have lester
48:32
continue to evolve against because he did he
48:35
gets better as the fight goes on no matter what
48:38
like he's very much a sponge of knowledge for
48:41
his coach yeah bomac um really did he continued
48:47
to prove that lester is like you said a good
48:52
sponge and he executes perfectly on a very good
48:56
game plan and he adjusts perfectly on a good
48:59
coach Lester, it's not as easy to say, based
49:09
on this performance, that Lester would have beaten
49:13
Mbili in a rematch. It's not as easy to say.
49:17
But I still think Martinez has Mbili's number.
49:23
Mbili's a one -trick pony. He did not rate. being
49:28
elevated without having the run back with Martinez.
49:32
Lester, he is what you want in a champion. Like
49:44
we've been saying, he's coachable, he's adaptable,
49:48
he's a really nice dude, just a really good person.
49:55
This is what you want in a champion. I think
49:58
Lester fucking runs the fade on Mbele. Absolutely.
50:06
Last one for the recaps. Only four fights on
50:13
this one. Matchroom at the Caribe Royale in Orlando,
50:17
Florida. First things first. Tara Moana stops
50:23
Curtis Harper in the first. Holy shit. Curtis
50:28
Harper, it's a joke that I like, that I like
50:33
how it worked out. So I had said that when Curtis
50:38
Harper sees Tara Moana doing the haka, he's going
50:42
to walk out of the ring the same way he did against
50:45
F .A. Ajagba. Now, it didn't work out in that
50:48
sense because he got knocked out in the first
50:51
round. But once Tara Moana started doing the
50:54
haka, if you watch the replay. You can see Curtis
50:58
Harper walking out of the ring. I fucking called
51:03
that shit, baby. The Haka was going to send Curtis
51:07
Harper walking. Good shit. Terry Moana knocking
51:12
over the cans as he continues to pile up the
51:17
wins, as you would expect from a 9 -0 fighter.
51:22
Whatevs. Corey Marksman impressed the ever -loving
51:29
fuck out of me. He beat Jacob Gomez by unanimous
51:34
decision. I'm trying to think. He reminds me
51:43
of Keyshawn Davis mixed with Shakur Stevenson.
51:48
I know this is very hyperbolic, but I was that
51:54
impressed. He looked so fucking good. I'm going
51:58
to try to get in touch with his team because
52:00
I want to talk to him. Hopefully. He seemed pretty
52:06
good. He was fucking fantastic. Holy shit. Good
52:12
asset to have. His punch selection, his defensive
52:18
work, his ring generalship. Holy shit. This guy
52:24
is like a the complete package already. I feel
52:29
like that. Obviously, his opponents need to get
52:32
better so he can demonstrate it a little bit
52:34
more, but I'm all in. His name is really fucking
52:40
cool, so that really does help. Do you have a
52:44
good nickname? It's too smooth, which is not
52:49
cool, but Corey Marksman? Come on. How did you
52:53
not go with the sniper or something like that?
52:57
Yeah, the sniper. Yeah, I was about to think
52:59
the sniper. Well, in the co -main, Omari Jones
53:06
plays it safe, gets the UD over Christian Gomez.
53:13
I expected better from Omari, just because he
53:18
had this dude figured out in the... first or
53:21
second round like what like why are you just
53:23
playing with your food but what are you gonna
53:28
do i think it's an off night for him honestly
53:32
you think so yeah i think so i think he just
53:38
needs to to be in a better fight to obviously
53:41
get you know better experience become more knowledgeable
53:44
yeah exactly better opposition make him fight
53:49
better Exactly. Fair enough. Well, Carlos Adamas,
53:55
the WBC middleweight champ, he just UD'd Austin
54:01
Williams. I am surprised that it didn't get stopped,
54:07
but Austin Williams was tough as I've ever seen.
54:15
We were talking last week. Before we started,
54:21
Saul, you and I were talking about this is an
54:24
instance where people will want to call Ammo
54:28
a bum, but this dude just... I wonder who would
54:33
say that. I don't know. Who would ever say that?
54:36
Not me. But he carried... He comported himself
54:44
well enough. Uh, he, he faced a world champion
54:50
and he gave a really good effort. He tried his
54:57
best. Um, like, do I want to give him a gold
54:59
star for effort? Yes, I do. Um, it's the best
55:03
I can do. I don't know. Josh, do you want to
55:07
like dunk on him or something? Oh, absolutely
55:09
not. I just like my, my main point about this
55:12
fight is like, what is Emma Williams's corner
55:14
think they're accomplishing? I don't know. They
55:18
could have stopped it, like, rounds earlier.
55:20
Full respect, like, fantastic heart from Emma
55:25
Williams hanging on to the end and still trying.
55:28
It's not like he phoned it in. Adamas was really
55:31
putting belt to ass, too. But in that case, like,
55:35
after round five, where, like, it's so obvious
55:38
that, like, there is, like, you're not even tickling
55:41
him, and he's just turning your fighter in the
55:44
paste. What are we doing? Pull him out. A loss
55:49
is a loss. Round eight or nine, at best, is when
55:53
they could have held him in. Five, it was obvious.
55:56
Eight or nine is giving your fighter benefit
55:59
of the doubt. Letting him go all 12 is negligent.
56:02
I got to say that the ammo, he was landing even
56:07
bombs in round 12. He landed a couple hard shots
56:11
on Adames, and Adames was visibly hurt. See,
56:15
I understand that, but there's also a whole rest
56:17
of the fight that he spent taking punishment.
56:22
They believed in him. Simple as that. They just
56:24
believed in him that he could get a knockout.
56:27
You know? I don't know. It's like sometimes it's
56:30
not worth it. Oh, no, not at all. I do got to
56:33
say myself that Adame's looked a league above
56:38
Ammo in this fight. He looked fantastic. I got
56:41
to say. His head movement, Adama's head movement,
56:44
and the ability to cut off the ring, it's really
56:46
good. You know? I was watching it, and even there
56:51
were some points in the final, like, damn. Like,
56:53
that double right hand knockdown, beautiful.
56:57
Beautiful. Very, uh, I'm excited to see Adama's
57:01
again next year. Oh, yeah, because he's a once
57:06
-a -year fighter. Yeah, he's a once -a -year
57:08
fighter. He's the new Lara. He's the new Lara.
57:10
Yeah, he's a new R. You know, we get him once
57:12
a year, then we get R once a year. He said he's
57:14
moving to 168, actually. Yeah, I was going to
57:16
break that up. He's moving it to 168, so there's
57:19
a lot better competition. I wonder if having
57:24
that caliber of fighters around you is going
57:28
to make you come out and fight more often. I
57:32
think it will. I'll say this right now, that
57:35
if he goes up and fights Christian Billy, Oh,
57:38
my God. That would be gangbusters. That is an
57:41
awesome fight. I would love to see that fight.
57:46
Which one's gangbusters? The Adamas and Lester?
57:50
No, Adamas and Billy. Okay. Adamas and Billy's
57:55
good. I like Adamas and Lester, too. Yeah, but
57:59
that one's... I feel like Lester might probably...
58:02
Lester might just beat the shit out of him, but
58:05
the thing is that it's fun. At that point, these
58:07
matchups are fun. I feel like with him and Mbili,
58:10
they're both similar styles, similar size. I
58:14
think Lester and Adamas is more a case of similar
58:17
styles. Maybe not size. Similar styles, similar
58:19
skills. Because I will say Mbili probably outsizes
58:23
Adamas, but also... Adamas is more technical
58:26
than Mbili is. The number one thing that you
58:30
could tell at the start of the ammo fight? The
58:34
jab. The jab. just oh yeah ammo getting pieced
58:38
up by the jab alone it was the like the first
58:42
like that's the first red flag that this is not
58:45
going to be competitive because you have no answer
58:49
for like the jab like the most foundational punch
58:53
in boxing yeah like there's no there's no shot
58:57
that like no wonder he's able to start throwing
59:02
double right hands and everything like Imagine
59:06
this fight was going to be on the Shakur card.
59:10
That would have been stacked. More stacked. They
59:17
could have moved this back a week for the Fandora
59:23
Thurman card since Sanchez Torres got canceled.
59:30
Yeah, and Adamez is PVC. Right. That was, I don't
59:34
know. We're not talking about that particular
59:37
card just yet. We have a pretty stacked preview
59:44
section. So, do you guys got anything more for
59:46
Adamas and Ammo? Not at all. Man, Ammo, I think
59:54
he can't... Do you think... Let me pose it to
59:58
you guys. Do you think it's possible in a...
1:00:01
Such a weak division, especially with a guy like
1:00:04
Adamas moving up. Can Ammo maybe snag a title?
1:00:11
I think so. 160 is dog shit. He can do it. Janabek,
1:00:16
if he's going to continue fighting, he's moving
1:00:19
up. So there are no real threats. I feel like
1:00:25
he could probably snag a title. He probably could.
1:00:28
I think he could. By the way, Carlo's zombies
1:00:32
look pretty damn good. Honestly, I think they
1:00:34
had a round of the year in that fight as well.
1:00:37
It was a really good fight. They had a particular
1:00:39
round of the year. I think it was round four.
1:00:42
I don't even track round of the year. Keep track,
1:00:46
though. I'll try. I think I'll forget about it.
1:00:50
Listen, nothing's getting this out of my head.
1:00:54
It's going to be something from the Provox fight
1:00:58
last week. Oh, the Najee, yeah. Yeah, Najee Lopez.
1:01:04
It's going to be Lopez Galegos for everything
1:01:06
this year. Like, I doubt. I think the only fight
1:01:09
that can really get to, like, that for me is
1:01:12
going to be Wardley Dubois. Or Zerto Benavidez.
1:01:16
I don't know. I think it's going to. That's like
1:01:18
a whole, like, my take is on Benavidez being
1:01:21
pretty firm. We'll see. But we'll see. But, like,
1:01:27
in terms of, like, things I expect to be close
1:01:29
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1:01:32
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1:01:35
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1:01:38
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Starting quickly with Friday, April 3rd. We have...
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There's not a whole lot going on here. Pat Brown.
1:05:26
A 10 -round cruiserweight fight versus Vasil
1:05:29
Dukar. Pat Brown was an Olympian, I think. So,
1:05:35
Team GB doing what they do. Boxer. At the Cardiff
1:05:43
International Arena in Wales, not a whole lot
1:05:47
doing here either. Lauren Price, the IBF, WBA,
1:05:52
WBC welterweight champion, is facing Stephanie
1:05:56
Aquino. So isn't that nice? Queensberry at the
1:06:03
O2 Arena in London. I'm going to go from the
1:06:07
bottom up. As of today, Ashton Silva, still TBA.
1:06:14
That might change by the time you hear this.
1:06:18
Moving up, moving up. Interim WBO middleweight
1:06:22
title, Denzel Bentley versus Andre Saavedra.
1:06:26
In the co -main, Vidal Riley versus Matus Musternak.
1:06:32
And main event, Deontay Wilder versus Derek Chisora.
1:06:37
They're calling this 100. This is both of their
1:06:42
50th fights. So that's pretty cool. Let me say
1:06:48
the Vidal Riley Matus Masternack one that the
1:06:54
winner of this fight might end up being elevated
1:06:56
to the IBF world title now that it is... Now
1:07:00
that Jai Okataya is... This might be... Because
1:07:05
this is... The IBF was making this one the eliminator
1:07:09
for Jai. Might be the manager, the vacant. It's
1:07:14
the interim now, and now they might elevate that
1:07:18
interim to full titleist. So, congratulations,
1:07:23
Vidal Riley. Hilarious career, by the way, because
1:07:28
he started his career by training professionally.
1:07:32
He had a good amateur career, but he started
1:07:34
with training KSI. Really? Yeah, he was KSI's
1:07:38
trainer for the Logan Paul fights. All right.
1:07:42
Well. Fun fact. Well, Deontay Wilder versus Derek
1:07:47
Chisora. What are we thinking? Personally, I
1:07:54
will be goddamned before I'm going to cheer for
1:07:57
a Brit over a red, white, and blue American.
1:08:01
But at the same time, I don't actually believe
1:08:04
he's going to win, to be honest. I'm riding with
1:08:08
Wilder. I'm going down with the ship, but I really
1:08:13
think Chizora is... As the funny adage goes,
1:08:18
Chizora has more experience being washed. Yeah.
1:08:25
Listen, I think it'd be really funny and in character
1:08:28
if Chizora was up on all the cards and putting
1:08:31
the pasting on Wilder and Wilder just memed him
1:08:34
in, like, round 11. That would be perfect. And
1:08:38
they both retire after the fight. There's been
1:08:42
talk that Chizora has been saying, if he wins,
1:08:47
that he's not going to retire. He's been saying
1:08:50
one more fight for years. I remember when Kubrat
1:08:55
Pulev, like the Pulev fight, was supposed to
1:08:57
be his last fight at the O2. And then he fought
1:09:02
twice. He's fighting... Counting Wilder, it's
1:09:05
three more times at the O2 after his last fight
1:09:07
at the O2. Perfect. Of course. Like, it's always
1:09:15
one more fight. I've been hearing retirement
1:09:17
talks since, like, Caballel beat him. And that
1:09:21
was in 2017. And we're nine years on. Go on,
1:09:26
my son. Go on my son, exactly. That being said,
1:09:29
Wilder and Eighth. Wilder and Eighth. Wilder
1:09:36
and Eighth. For the culture, Wilder and Eighth.
1:09:39
All right, I'm going for it. Last thing on Saturday,
1:09:44
April 4th, PBC on Prime in Wollongong, Australia.
1:09:52
I almost said New Zealand there. It's New South
1:09:55
Wales. Pardon me. What do we got on the card
1:09:59
here? In the co -main, Sam Goodman over Who Gives
1:10:02
a Shit. And we got Tim Zhu facing Dennis Nuria.
1:10:14
So, isn't that nice? Let's roll on Sunday, April
1:10:21
5th. First thing. MVP on ESPN Plus in London.
1:10:31
It's MVPW making, I think this is their second
1:10:37
card. But they've got, as MVP tends to do, a
1:10:45
lot of the ladies on here. Chantel Cameron versus
1:10:48
Mikaela Kotaskova for the vacant WBO super welterweight
1:10:54
title. Who else we got here? Irma Garcia, the
1:11:00
IBF super flyweight champ versus Emma Dolan,
1:11:03
the number one contender. Ellie Scottney, the
1:11:08
IBF WBC, WBO super bantamweight champ, is going
1:11:17
undisputed with Mayeli Flores, the WBA champion.
1:11:22
And in the main event, Caroline Dubois, And Terry
1:11:27
Harper are unifying their WBC, WBO lightweight
1:11:32
titles. So, a lot of hardware. Last thing we
1:11:39
got on Sunday. I don't know the entire undercard
1:11:44
yet, but Zufa Boxing 5. The three fights I do
1:11:50
have. Crazy A. Azat Hovhanissian. versus Eduardo
1:11:56
Baez, Mark Maxayo versus Fairgold McCrory, and
1:12:02
Andres Cortez versus Erickson Garcia in the main
1:12:08
event. This sucks. This sucks. You can be honest.
1:12:13
This sucks. Crazy A and Mark Maxayo, I like those
1:12:20
guys, but yeah, this ain't it. These are not
1:12:24
great fights. You can't support this. This is
1:12:25
not the future of boxing, dude. It's not. No.
1:12:28
Yeah, like, come on. It isn't. Good. But, yeah,
1:12:33
that's Zufa. Well, with all of that, we are heading
1:12:41
into Chizora, Wilder, and Tim Zoo weekend. Parting
1:12:50
words. It's going to be an interesting weekend.
1:12:54
Hopefully, Deontay Wilder wins. I need Wilder
1:12:58
to pull this out, dude. One last time. We cannot
1:13:03
have Derek Chisora kicking in 2026, entering
1:13:08
2027. He needs to go home. Go on, my son. Go
1:13:14
on, my son. So I've been... I came across this
1:13:22
post on threads. It was like a, one of those
1:13:27
like smart ass types of posts. Where's the go?
1:13:31
What battle did Napoleon Diane? The answer, his
1:13:36
last one, like his last one. Yeah. Yeah. That
1:13:40
type of. bullshit you know what i mean so i went
1:13:43
on bullshit that's based as fuck i went on a
1:13:47
little bit of a tirade in response to that like
1:13:51
why do we park on driveways but drive on parkways
1:13:55
that type of nonsense so um i asked last time
1:14:01
about number two pencils and why are they still
1:14:05
number two if they're the most used one of my
1:14:08
favorite ones Do Roman paramedics refer to IVs
1:14:13
as fours? Oh, Jesus. Jesus Christ. It gets worse
1:14:23
every week. I like it. I like it. It's nice.
1:14:31
Me and dad jokes. It's like cats going into boxes.
1:14:37
It's just what we do. Well, on that one, that
1:14:45
is it for this edition of the Boxing B -Sides.
1:14:50
Holy shit, we will see you on the other side
1:14:53
of Chisora and Wilder. Yay.