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Desperate DOJ comes after Trump AGAIN w New Election Interference Tactic · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the polls has actually gone up a
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Speaker 1: little bit.
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Speaker 2: What does that mean.
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Speaker 1: It means if the election was today, there's a better
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Speaker 1: chance that he wins than Kamala Harris. But we all
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Speaker 1: know the election isn't today. It's a little more than
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Speaker 1: a month from now, and so Democrats are trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out what do we do to get rid of
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Speaker 1: this possible victory for Donald Trump and insert lawfair. Yet again,
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Speaker 1: a desperate Department of Justice, clinging to power, has come
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Speaker 1: out with another attack on Donald Trump. The judge has
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Speaker 1: released Jack Smith's latest filing in the Trump election interference case.
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Speaker 1: This is simple lawfair and is a lawfair revival that
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Speaker 1: has come on the hills of vance trouncing Walton.
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Speaker 2: The VP debate.
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Speaker 1: Now, you may ask yourself, and we've talked about it here,
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Speaker 1: did the VP debate actually matter? Does it have a
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Speaker 1: chance to influence people? Well, here's what we know about
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Speaker 1: the number of people that watched more than forty three
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Speaker 1: million people watched Tuesday's vice presidential debate. That concerns Democrats
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Speaker 1: because you saw a very likable and a guy that
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Speaker 1: seemed to connect with a lot of Americans in the
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Speaker 1: name of JD Vance.
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Speaker 2: They are not happy about this.
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Speaker 1: This is the forty three point one five million viewers
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Speaker 1: across the fifteen networks that were running this debate. Let
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Speaker 1: me also say this, the debate was the fourth least
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Speaker 1: watched of the twelve vice presidential debates throughout the presidential cycle,
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Speaker 1: to put it in perspective. But with that being said,
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Speaker 1: it is a large number in general, especially knowing how
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Speaker 1: many clips then are watched online and go viral afterwards. Now,
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Speaker 1: the four big broadcast networks and then throw in DNN,
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Speaker 1: Fox News, and MSNBC accounted for about thirty eight million
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Speaker 1: of the total viewers. What does that mean. It means
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Speaker 1: that the president of the United States of America right now,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are very concerned about where
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Speaker 1: this election is trending, which brings us back to the
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Speaker 1: lawfare that is now coming out of right nowhere, right
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Speaker 1: and just oh, all of a sudden, this is just
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Speaker 1: going to happen, and the timing of this is perfect.
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Speaker 1: What's even funnier about the report is it's clearly not
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Speaker 1: a report that is being done, or a case that's
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Speaker 1: being done, or the redactions in the court filings that
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Speaker 1: are being done to stop people from connecting political dots.
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Speaker 1: On CNN, as they announced this, CNN's Jake Tapper really
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Speaker 1: just started cracking up at the redactions in this new
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Speaker 1: DOJ filing. Now, redactions are done so that you don't
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Speaker 1: know certain information, right, It's to protect witnesses and to
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Speaker 1: protect others. But this isn't a traditional and or a
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Speaker 1: normal indictment.
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Speaker 2: This is lawfair. It's warfare.
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Speaker 1: It's to take out Donald Trump and anyone else around
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Speaker 1: him who the Left doesn't like. And they put these
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Speaker 1: reactions in there. But these reactions are just a joke.
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Speaker 1: They want you to know who they believe is involved
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Speaker 1: in a grand conspiracy with Donald Trump, so you can
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Speaker 1: slander all the people that are around him. I want
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Speaker 1: you to listen carefully to exactly what Jake Tapper had
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Speaker 1: to say about these reactions, because it is hilarious and
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Speaker 1: even he's laughing at it, going this isn't normal. This
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Speaker 1: is clearly being done on purpose so that you can
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Speaker 1: listen to Jake Tapper cracking up is he's describing what
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Speaker 1: is nothing more than a hit piece on Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: and his associates when they try to redact information so
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Speaker 1: you won't know who they're talking about, when they clearly
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Speaker 1: want you to know exactly who they are talking about
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Speaker 1: in the Trump world.
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Speaker 3: So, Paul, let me just ask you about some of
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Speaker 3: these reactions because again I'm a lay person, I'm not
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Speaker 3: a lawyer like yourself and the wise people involved in
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Speaker 3: this case, but they don't really make a whole lot
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Speaker 3: of sense to me. For example, P one is quite
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Speaker 3: obviously Steve Bannon just to read, and this is page seven,
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Speaker 3: so I haven't really gotten very.
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Speaker 4: Far in it.
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Speaker 3: But by October twenty twenty, P One, a private political
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Speaker 3: advisor who had worked for the defendant's twenty sixteen presidential campaign,
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Speaker 3: began to assist with the defendants reelection later effort. Three
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Speaker 3: days before election day, p One described the defendant's plan
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Speaker 3: to a private gathering of supporters. Quote and what Trump's
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Speaker 3: going to do is just declare victory. Right, He's going
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Speaker 3: to declare victory. That doesn't mean he's the winner. He's
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Speaker 3: just going to say he's the winner.
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Speaker 5: Quote.
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Speaker 3: Now that quote exists on video, we know it's Steve Bannon.
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Speaker 3: Why even redact it?
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Speaker 6: So here you do see redactions, mostly of specific names
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Speaker 6: of witnesses. Again, this is highly unusual to release the
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Speaker 6: kind of evidence that you have uncovered any criminal investigation,
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Speaker 6: any filing like this that is made public.
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Speaker 1: So, by the way, it is unusual unless you're trying
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Speaker 1: to just come after someone politically, and you've weaponized the
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice to take out your political opponent. The
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Speaker 1: reason why Jake Tapper laughed there is they're not trying
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Speaker 1: to hide who the people are they're wanting to destroy.
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Speaker 1: They're literally leaving you the crumbs in this indictment, so
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Speaker 1: you know exactly through googling these exact quotes who it
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Speaker 1: is that they're talking about.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: They're trying to indict Donald Trump and every one of
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Speaker 1: his friends that they hate right before the election day
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Speaker 1: by putting together a basically a fake filing which is
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Speaker 1: nothing more than a witch hun and a hip piece
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Speaker 1: on these individuals. And that's why Jake Tapper was laughing.
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Speaker 1: That's why this lawyer is laughing. Keep listening.
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Speaker 6: These are the types of redactions. Though, any one who
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Speaker 6: has covered this case, this investigation, and who's followed this
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Speaker 6: story we're given a little bit of time, is going
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Speaker 6: to figure out who most of these people are, because,
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Speaker 6: as you said, this has been something that's been out
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Speaker 6: in the open. There's of course the January sixth Committee,
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Speaker 6: They've been other cases related to this, so it's going
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Speaker 6: to be pretty easy to figure out who said what.
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Speaker 6: But the court here making some attempt to protect the
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Speaker 6: identities of officials in this.
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Speaker 1: Case, by the way, I will by they say they're
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Speaker 1: making some attempt to try to protect the identities of
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Speaker 1: these people, know they're not. They deliberately gave quotes that
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Speaker 1: you could google and the quote would go directly back
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Speaker 1: to the person that they're trying that they claim they're
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Speaker 1: trying to protect in the court filing, which is absurd.
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Speaker 1: Keep listening is a laugh about this because they're laughing
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Speaker 1: at it. But they also understand why the DOJ did this,
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Speaker 1: which makes even funnier. It's warfare, it's law fair, and
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Speaker 1: they hate Trump and everybody around them.
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Speaker 2: So let's just screw.
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Speaker 6: Them all witnesses, right, because these were people who either
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Speaker 6: testified before the grand jury or spoke to investigators. I
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Speaker 6: just I want to underscore this is an extraordinary thing
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Speaker 6: to get a filing like this, and this is part
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Speaker 6: of the court's efforts to try to protect those witnesses.
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Speaker 6: But like you said, you only got to paid seven
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Speaker 6: and you already knew who one of the witnesses was.
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Speaker 3: Well, for anybody at home who's doing this, that kind
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Speaker 3: of like a bingo game page eighteen, it refers to
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Speaker 3: Georgia Governor P seventeen. I believe that's probably Brian Kamp.
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Speaker 3: I'm no master strategist here, but I mean it would
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Speaker 3: that be your reading as well.
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Speaker 6: Yes, I think this is an easy mad libs if
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Speaker 6: you look at it that way. And again, what we're
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Speaker 6: looking for specifically is any new evidence things that we
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Speaker 6: haven't actually heard before, specifically new evidence from former Vice
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Speaker 6: President Mike Pence.
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Speaker 1: I mean they're telling you every name because when they
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Speaker 1: made the filing this was not to keep at private.
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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we'd redacted it, but you guys figured
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Speaker 1: it out.
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Speaker 2: Good job.
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Speaker 1: No, they're handing you the quote to then Google to
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Speaker 1: then make sure you know exactly who they're talking about.
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Speaker 1: This is how corrupt the Department of Justice, Jack Smith,
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, Joe Biden are to try to take out
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump because apparently the last two assassins didn't do it,
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Speaker 1: so now they're going back to lawfair here and it's
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Speaker 1: pure communism, that is what this is. So if you
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Speaker 1: look at this game plan, it's like, all right, we're
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Speaker 1: thirty plus days out from election day.
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Speaker 2: We need to hit Donald Trump hard.
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Speaker 1: He is stabilized in the polls and Kamala Harris has
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Speaker 1: come down a little bit. We need to go back
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Speaker 1: to lawfair because that always seems to work. We tell
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Speaker 1: everybody he's this evil guy, and Jack Smith's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I got this. We got to protect our corruption at
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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. So the wash DCUs District Judge
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Speaker 1: unsealed the Special Council Jacksmith's latest motion and is in
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Speaker 1: his salvage case against Trump for interference in the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty election. I can't believe we're having this conversation, but
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Speaker 1: here we are. And they released of this quote redacted
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Speaker 1: motion filed last week follows Trump's surge and swing state
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Speaker 1: polls and comes the day after Vance just shined in
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Speaker 1: the VP to debate. That is why they decided to
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Speaker 1: do this now now. Under a local criminal rule forty
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Speaker 1: seven e okay of the US District Court for the
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Speaker 1: District of Columbia, motions of this type are limited okay
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Speaker 1: to forty five pages. That, by the way, doesn't even apply, apparently,
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Speaker 1: because the judge allowed Smith to file a mammoth one
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five page motion, which is far outside
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Speaker 1: of the forty five pages, which is normally allowed. Again,
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Speaker 1: this is how you know this is corruption. You might
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Speaker 1: as well just call this motion the Steele dossier. We're
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Speaker 1: going to just bring up a bunch of random crap
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Speaker 1: right before the election, and we're going to try to
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Speaker 1: use it to our advantage to say, see, Donald Trump's
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Speaker 1: the worst person in the world, and we need to
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Speaker 1: remind you of that before election day. And so here
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Speaker 1: you go. Now we're going to remind you right now,
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Speaker 1: that's what this is. This is this Steele dossier two
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Speaker 1: point zero, but it's on the letterhead of an official
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Speaker 1: judge and a court in the District of Columbia, so
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Speaker 1: it's a lot more official, right than the Steele dossier
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Speaker 1: that worked last time. So well, so here's one hundred
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Speaker 1: and sixty five pages that we are going to release
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Speaker 1: to you.
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Speaker 2: And in these one hundred and.
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Speaker 1: Sixty five pages, we're going to throw out a bunch
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Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories and attack Donald Trump so that he'll
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Speaker 1: have a really, really hard time in the last thirty
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Speaker 1: thirty five days. And the media can pick up on this,
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Speaker 1: and that is exactly what happened.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like there's a.
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Speaker 1: Grand conspiracy between the state sponsored media and Biden and
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Speaker 1: Harris and this White House and the Department of Justice
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Speaker 1: and the FBI to conspire together to try to hurt
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Speaker 1: their political opponent, who so far they haven't been able
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Speaker 1: to murder him. And so now they're like, all right, well,
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Speaker 1: we got to go back to law fair because that's
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Speaker 1: what we did before, and you know, the bullets had
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Speaker 1: hit him, and so we'll just go back to the
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Speaker 1: law fair.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Smith's motion included some egregious, one sided allegations that turned,
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Speaker 1: by the way, on Trump's quote state of mind, repeating
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Speaker 1: that Trump's claims regarding the election were knowingly false and deceitful,
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Speaker 1: without allowing the possibility that actually Donald Trump at the
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Speaker 1: time believed what he was saying, had reason to believe
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Speaker 1: what he was saying because of those around him and
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Speaker 1: lawyers and others that were talking about corruption. Now, you
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Speaker 1: can debate that all you want in a court of law,
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Speaker 1: but in this filing they're basically saying Donald Trump is
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Speaker 1: a criminal because Donald Trump believes something that we have
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Speaker 1: decided is not true. Now, let's also put in perspective
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Speaker 1: for you, and let me remind you, the same people
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Speaker 1: that are telling you this are the same people that
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Speaker 1: told you that the Stele dossier was real and authentic,
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Speaker 1: even though they'd already classified as user generated, right, they
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Speaker 1: knew that it was provided and paid for by the
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Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee in Hillary Clinton's campaign. And these are
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Speaker 1: the same people that also lied to you and told
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Speaker 1: you that the Hunter Biden laptop was not real and
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Speaker 1: that that was somehow Russian disinformation. So they want me
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Speaker 1: to now believe, in a one hundred and sixty five
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Speaker 1: page report that's supposed to be no more than forty
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Speaker 1: five pages, that Donald Trump is the worst person in
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Speaker 1: the world, and that Donald Trump deserves to not be
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Speaker 1: the president but go to jail and be a felon
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Speaker 1: and have his right to even vote taken away from him. Now,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has emphatically denied these charges coming from Smith,
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Speaker 1: and obviously I understand why, and many commentators profess that
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Speaker 1: Trump since he believed that he would have won if
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Speaker 1: all the relevant laws were faithfully enforced. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing conspiratorial about believing that with it, especially at
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Speaker 1: the time, like there's nothing wrong with that. So what
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Speaker 1: do the Democrats do? The Democrats come out with one
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five page document. It is unusual. It
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Speaker 1: is outside the norm. It is far outside the number
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Speaker 1: of pages you're supposed to file. And then you time
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Speaker 1: it at the exact moment when Kamala Harris is dropping
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Speaker 1: the polls and JD Vance had a very big VP
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Speaker 1: debate by the way, that Kamala Harris released knowingly thousands
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Speaker 1: and thousands of rapists and murderers into America that they
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Speaker 1: knew were rapists and murderers that were convicted rapists and
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Speaker 1: murderers when they crossed our southern border when we caught them. Now,
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Speaker 1: this judge, by the way, and if you want to
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Speaker 1: know how corrupt the judge is here, this is the
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Speaker 1: entire government standing up to Donald Trump going against him, saying, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we don't want you back here, and we are afraid
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna, you know, blow everything up in the
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Speaker 1: corruption of this communist government that we've set up and
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Speaker 1: the power that we have set up at the CIA
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Speaker 1: and the FBI and the DOJ.
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Speaker 2: And so this judge right could have kept the.
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Speaker 1: Motion under seal until after the election, all one hundred
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Speaker 1: and sixty plus pages.
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Speaker 2: Guess what the judge.
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Speaker 1: Said, No, No, because I need influence the election. I
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Speaker 1: want to make sure, Donald Trump has never sworn in again.
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Speaker 1: So instead, this activist district judge in Washington, DC released
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Speaker 1: a quote highly redacted motion that appears to have redacted
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Speaker 1: little other than names and the names, which goes back
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Speaker 1: to what I played for you on CNN and Jake
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Speaker 1: Tapper earlier that they redacted. It's a joke, you know,
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Speaker 1: and you can figure out who every single person is.
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Speaker 1: In fact, as I was reading this document when it
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Speaker 1: came out, one of the texts I sent, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to read it to you verbatim. And I sent this
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Speaker 1: to a lawyer friend of mine and I said, is
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Speaker 1: redaction supposed to be to protect people? And he responded
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Speaker 1: with yes, unless your name is Donald Trump or you
18:03
Speaker 1: worked with or around Donald Trump, that's the truth. Like
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Speaker 1: he's not lying. And I texted another friend that's a lawyer.
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Speaker 1: I said, Okay, explain this to me. What is the
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Speaker 1: point of a reaction if what the name that you're
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Speaker 1: redacting is connected directly verbatim to the as I described it,
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Speaker 1: to the actual blanking. I was mad, I didn't about
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Speaker 1: the whole word. I should get a little credit for that, right,
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Speaker 1: ideas I says, directly connect to the blanking quote that
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Speaker 1: you can find in the New York Times. The response,
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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this in my twenty four
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Speaker 1: years as a lawyer. This is all about election interference,
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Speaker 1: something the Democrats say that they can't stand. They're trying
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Speaker 1: to interfere with the upcoming election by influencing you, you
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Speaker 1: and influencing others by saying, here's a bunch of redacted
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Speaker 1: things that you can figure out. Trump's team, by the way,
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Speaker 1: argued more redactions were necessary if the judge chose to
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Speaker 1: release the motion publicly. They also objected the timing, noting
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Speaker 1: that early voting had already begun, so clearly this is
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Speaker 1: being done to influence election outcomes, and what did Smith's
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Speaker 1: team do. They rejected any accusations of political motivation behind
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Speaker 1: the filing or its timing, saying that despite the timing
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Speaker 1: that being so close to the election day quote, they
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Speaker 1: have no role or interest in partisan politics. If you
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Speaker 1: believe that, you're an idiot, you can look at the quotes.
19:44
Speaker 1: You can look at who they've voted for. You can
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Speaker 1: look at the party where they gained their power. You
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Speaker 1: can look at Jack Smith and all of his filings.
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Speaker 1: If there's anything I'm sure of it's that he's that
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Speaker 1: he hates Donald Trump and he wants to put him
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Speaker 1: in jail, and he also wants to make sure that
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump never becomes president, and he wants to make
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Speaker 1: sure that Donald Trump is persecuted for his beliefs because
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Speaker 1: this is what communists and socialists do each and every
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Speaker 1: single day.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 1: I want to move to another issue that is really
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Speaker 1: important right now, and is the fallout from something that jd.
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Speaker 1: Vance said that the left is really upset about. And
20:28
Speaker 1: he said, and they were trying to turn into like, oh,
20:30
Speaker 1: you're a racist because he said, well, you let twenty
20:33
Speaker 1: million American or legal immigrants come into America. What the
20:37
Speaker 1: hell do you think was going to happen? We're going
20:38
Speaker 1: to have higher home prices. And they immediately were like,
20:42
Speaker 1: that's not true, that's not true. Right, it is true.
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Speaker 1: We know it's true.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Tim Waltz is out there saying in these one on
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Speaker 1: one interviews, Oh, we're going to make housing more affordable
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Speaker 1: again without a plan. But he keeps saying it over
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Speaker 1: and over again. Apparently everybody believes him.
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Speaker 4: We're here in Ashville. This is one area of the
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Speaker 4: state where we've seen housing.
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Speaker 6: Prices skyrocket here, there's very little affordable housing.
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Speaker 4: It's the story you see time and again. How do
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Speaker 4: you think your plan can help?
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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, the Vice President's plan starts by
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Speaker 7: that this this shortage of housing units in general is
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Speaker 7: three million new units. And she understands this is making
21:17
Speaker 7: sure that we're not seeing banks by these things up
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Speaker 7: keep money inventory, and then that down payment assistance for me.
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Speaker 4: I use the GI bill.
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Speaker 7: I think she's starting about making sure you tax credits,
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Speaker 7: that we're able to make sure people have the money
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Speaker 7: to go forward.
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Speaker 2: I love this.
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Speaker 1: So they say, well, we just seed a bunch more
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Speaker 1: houses and we're going to give you money to do it, right,
21:35
Speaker 1: And so then they came out with its plan. They're like,
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Speaker 1: all right, we're just gonna give you like twenty five
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars Kamoa Herrison a big, big one on one
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Speaker 1: exclusive within MSNBC with this type of propaganda, and she said, well,
21:48
Speaker 1: we're going to housing more affordable, right, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: make sure they enough price gouging you. And they blame everybody.
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Speaker 1: They blame the boogeyman, the evil big banks, the private investors, right,
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Speaker 1: And so then.
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Speaker 2: They come out.
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Speaker 1: They're like, God, we're gonna give you money for houses, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna give you a bunch of cash.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you twenty five thousand highest bidder if
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Speaker 1: that's what you want, We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: give you, you know, twenty five thousand and and and
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Speaker 1: that's gonna, you know, fix your problem. Well, every economist
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Speaker 1: came out like, if you give a twenty five thousand
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Speaker 1: our check first time home buyers, that's gonna happen. The
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Speaker 1: price of every home in America is just gonna go up.
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Speaker 1: Like everybody knows this, it's basic economics. And and you
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Speaker 1: have this idea now that oh, well, we're just gonna,
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Speaker 1: you know, randomly build a bunch of houses that the
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Speaker 1: government's gonna subsidize. And that's somehow going to fix the problem.
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Speaker 1: Harris is gonna kill housing, is what the experts have said.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna kill housing.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Not only are they gonna kill it with they're planned,
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Speaker 1: but they're killing the American dream of owning a house
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Speaker 1: because of all the illegal immigrants they've led into this country.
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Speaker 1: And during the debate, the well that's not true, and
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Speaker 1: J D Vance wrote back pretty quickly, right to the
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Speaker 1: If you think that illegal immigrants aren't rising the prices
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Speaker 1: are not causing the prices of housing and rent to
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Speaker 1: go up, let's just also hammer down on this twenty
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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars that she just randomly says is like
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Speaker 1: magic money that she's going to give out to everybody
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Speaker 1: that wants to buy a house. It's never going to happen,
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Speaker 1: number one, and number two, it is not going to
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Speaker 1: lower the price of housing or make housing more affordable,
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Speaker 1: which is what she's claiming. It's just going to make
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Speaker 1: the price of every house cup twenty five grand because
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Speaker 1: everybody knows, well, you got the twenty five grand. The
25:34
Speaker 1: government just gave it to you, which means the taxpayers
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Speaker 1: we are subsidizing everybody else's house.
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Speaker 5: Listen, I want to talk about Harris's got Kamala House's
25:43
Speaker 5: economic plan. You've got a tweet out there saying that
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Speaker 5: Harris is either financially illiterate, incompetent, or she believes her
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Speaker 5: voters are.
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Speaker 2: You really don't like her plan?
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Speaker 4: Do your grant?
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Speaker 8: No, because I know it won't work. Okay, she's going
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Speaker 8: to kill housing. Okay, I don't know why she's I
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Speaker 8: guess I understand why she's not giving people like you
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Speaker 8: a moment to ask her a question. Why would you
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Speaker 8: want to build or three million homes when you know
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Speaker 8: your four point two million home short. Why would you
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Speaker 8: want to give a twenty five thousand dollars first time
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Speaker 8: tax credit or buyer's credit when you know that's going
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Speaker 8: to inflate housing? Okay. Margage applications had a spike this week,
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Speaker 8: and we're still lower than two thousand, two thousand and
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Speaker 8: eight twenty ten literally the lowest levels in twenty four
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Speaker 8: years of martgage applications. The housing market is getting slaughtered,
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Speaker 8: and nobody's talking about it. And if she thinks twenty
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Speaker 8: five thousand dollars is going to somehow, you know, relieve
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Speaker 8: the system, she's crazy.
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Speaker 4: So she's either lying to.
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Speaker 8: The public or worse, she doesn't know what she's talking
26:47
Speaker 8: about or her her team does. Now now I know Mark
26:50
Speaker 8: Cuban's a huge fan of hers. Right now, he's at a
26:52
Speaker 8: pimpinger like every minute of every day. But and Mark
26:57
Speaker 8: knows a lot about a lot of things. But housing
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Speaker 8: is not going to get fixed. Because she promises to
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Speaker 8: build three million homes, she doesn't even know what it
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Speaker 8: would cost, how long it would take, who would build them,
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Speaker 8: who would get the homes. And by the way, it's
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Speaker 8: six percent interest. You can't afford a loon anyway, because
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Speaker 8: the interests alone is two thousand dollars a month.
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Speaker 1: Grant caught on the interest alone is two thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: a month. So this idea that I'm just going to
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Speaker 1: hand out twenty five k and it's going to fix
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Speaker 1: the problem. And you're gonna and you're gonna build three
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Speaker 1: million homes. Now, in my lifetime, we've never had a
27:30
Speaker 1: conversation about building three million homes, Like, that's never been
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Speaker 1: a conversation. And I think the real reason why we've
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Speaker 1: never had that conversation is because we've never had to
27:47
Speaker 1: deal with the possibility of being three million homes too short, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: we've never had to have that conversation. Why are we
27:56
Speaker 1: even having the conversation. It goes back to what Jdvan said,
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Speaker 1: and it's the fact that we have a housing crisis
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Speaker 1: in this country because we have an immigration crisis that
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Speaker 1: is skyrocket the cost of rent and homes. So called
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Speaker 1: policy experts quote unquote at the libertarian Kiddo Institute, known
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Speaker 1: for its defense of open borders, are admitting now that
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Speaker 1: center JD. Vance is correct when he says immigration increases
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Speaker 1: increases housing prices for Americans. We don't want to want
28:30
Speaker 1: to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do
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Speaker 1: want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of
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Speaker 1: illegal aliens in this country, which does drive up costs.
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Speaker 1: Vance said it Tuesday Evening's vice president of Debate, twenty
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Speaker 1: five million illegal aliens are competing with Americans for houses
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Speaker 1: for homes, and it's one of the most significant drivers
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Speaker 1: of home prices in the country. It's why we have
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Speaker 1: massive increases in home prices and have happened right alongside
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Speaker 1: massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership. Also,
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Speaker 1: you want to know where home prices of skyrocket the
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Speaker 1: most and heavily populated areas where illegal immigrants are living. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that is the truth. So when JD. Vance said what
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Speaker 1: he said, he wasn't lying. He was speaking truth to power,
29:21
Speaker 1: which is exactly why they hated what he said.
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Speaker 4: Tim just said something that I agree with.
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Speaker 9: We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices,
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Speaker 9: but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting
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Speaker 9: in millions of illegal aliens into this country.
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Speaker 4: Which does drive up cost him.
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Speaker 9: Twenty five million Illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce
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Speaker 9: homes is one of the most significant drivers of home
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Speaker 9: prices in the country.
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Speaker 4: It's why we have massive increases in.
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Speaker 9: Home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in
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Speaker 9: illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership. Now, Tim just
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Speaker 9: mentioned a bunch of ideas. Now, some of those ideas
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Speaker 9: I actually think are and some of them I disagree with.
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Speaker 9: But the most important thing here is Kamala Harris is
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Speaker 9: not running as a newcomer to politics.
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Speaker 4: She is the sitting vice president.
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Speaker 9: If she wants to enact all of these policies to
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Speaker 9: make housing more affordable, I invite her to use the
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Speaker 9: office that the American people already gave her, not sit
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Speaker 9: around in campaign and do nothing while Americans find the
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Speaker 9: American dream of home ownership completely unaffordable.
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Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I think this moment was
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Speaker 1: so effective for him is because if you were listening
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Speaker 1: and you're looking at buying a house, or you're looking
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Speaker 1: to rent, or you decided not to buy a house,
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Speaker 1: is because you understood what he was saying there.
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Speaker 2: Jade Vance is correct.
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Speaker 1: Immigration increases housing prices, and that's just the truth. It's
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Speaker 1: okay to admit that, but the media doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: talk about that. The intersection of supplying demand determines housing prices,
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Speaker 1: like all prices.
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Speaker 2: Quote.
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Speaker 1: When housing supply curves are upward sloping, increased demand from
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Speaker 1: immigrants will increase housing prices. Immigrants are people who want
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Speaker 1: to roof over their heads after all. So when you're
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Speaker 1: going to the market to rind er buy, does the
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Speaker 1: market care if you're an illegal or not? The answer
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Speaker 1: is no, it doesn't matter. Bringing the discussion back to
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Speaker 1: Springfield and Ohio, where Vans started, housing prices have increased
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Speaker 1: there as more Haitian migrants have moved in. According to redfin,
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Speaker 1: the medium sale price of a single family hold sold
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Speaker 1: there has increased from seventy eight thousand, five hundred dollars
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Speaker 1: in August of twenty nineteen to one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: eight thousand in August of twenty twenty four. That is
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Speaker 1: a one hundred and one percent increase in nominal terms.
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Speaker 1: By the way, the nationwide increase was forty six percent
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Speaker 1: in nominal terms during the same period. And what happened
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Speaker 1: during that period a massive influx and ellegal immigrants by
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Speaker 1: the millions coming across the southern border that has made
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Speaker 1: renters and first time home buyers worse off than Springfield
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Speaker 1: and homeowners who are mostly native born quote better off.
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Speaker 1: At a recent House Oversight Committee hearing, the Center for
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Speaker 1: Immigration Studies director set his analysis has found that a
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Speaker 1: five percent point increase in the recent immigrant share of
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Speaker 1: a metro area's population is associated with a twelve percent
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Speaker 1: increase in the average US born household rent relative to
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Speaker 1: their income. What do they note The high levels of
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Speaker 1: immigration particularly increase rents. Adding this, very large numbers of
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Speaker 1: people added to the country are significantly impacting housing prices
32:52
Speaker 1: by driving up demand for rental properties. The Census Bureau
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Speaker 1: reports of the increase in rents in twenty twenty three
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Speaker 1: was by far the large just in the past decade.
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Speaker 1: And what happened during that period of time. We had
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Speaker 1: the largest increase of the immigrants, illegal immigrants coming across
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Speaker 1: the southern border. And the fact that the media even
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Speaker 1: tried to argue with him over this is insane. Make
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