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162. Nordics, Greys, Insektoider o Reptiloider i kongressen · Ufo🛸Bortom Rimligt Tvivel

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Hey, Udiga comrade Liten uptatheren de Hoye Vorit
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Alpurov, who's Jorogan of de Hovorit, Matt Brown,
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whistleblosseran Bokom Immaculate constellation or Eric
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Davis, a prototom insectary de Reptilier or Nordics or Grace E
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embarrassment of riches at the examples of pins some mikko
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valiapo there at least probably and if there's a him.
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What this is maybe not even the possibility of it, but but
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addressing that there's something going on.
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So what is it? Is it interdimensional?
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Is it intergalactic? Like what is it?
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That's that's just such an excellent question because the
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problem is there's an embarrassment of riches.
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These craft you know which in the old days, you know farmer in
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the fields that someone streaking across.
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The sky and you know. I don't know what to think.
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You know, you could sort of blow it off, but because our own.
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Detection equipment. Has really marched up into.
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Unbelievable sophistication. And so now we have these really
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advanced sensor systems, Fleer forward-looking infrared.
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Radar, high quality radars, satellites.
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Ratcliffe has admitted. That satellites have picked up.
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Evidence of these of. These craft and these craft.
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Have interfered with military exercises.
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As we all know from. I say.
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The Nimitz and the Gimbal Go Fast videos and, you know, made
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it out into the public in 2017. So it's really out there now at
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that point that there's that, there's that.
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There's a reality here. And so.
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That's where we are. At this point, one more
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spectacular ones you talked about.
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You almost send Gordon go to hell to Bocca for a time.
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Can she insert an interest word before again or to build up a
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bottle at an wheel. Fact is for a some toilet videra
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and here's some clothes of ET huputias and some.
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Back to the question that you mentioned a little earlier,
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though, about, you know, what's the source of this?
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Like I said, it's an embarrassment of riches.
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There's so much observation. You know, the idea that it may
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be a scout coming by from some other planet and checking us out
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and heading off or whatever. I mean, it's much more than
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that. And of course, as you know, from
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interviewing Jacques Valet, he dug into literature and found
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out, you know, you can go back millennia and see descriptions
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of exactly what we're talking about today.
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So as as far as where they come from, what they're doing here, I
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myself have written a paper called Ultraterrestrials where I
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try to cover the gamut and I cover everything.
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Yeah, they could be spacecraft from some other Galaxy whipping
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through here, or maybe there's some Atlanteans leftover from
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eons ago. And they're just kind of hiding
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out in the seabed or. On some mountain range
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someplace. Or maybe some ET group showed up
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here thousand, 2003 thousand years ago and they're hiding out
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with some bases locally and so on.
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And of course we have a fellow by the name of a professor, but
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they have masters who who thinks that, well, maybe it's time
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travellers from the future coming back.
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And then there's the whole idea, since physicists like to talk
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about in additional dimensions. I mean, you know, maybe.
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They come from another. Or the holy cow hung groups, the
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wholener of it of a chlorine and some styles emote.
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I'll say Ella de Camora from Atlantis.
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So anyway, then in my ultra terrestrials paper, I.
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Everyone I can think of. And say.
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You know we should be. Exploring all of these.
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So at this point I would say we know it's NHI, non human
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intelligence, but it's not clear what the source is.
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Maybe at a higher level of? Classification than I had access
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to. Maybe it's it's known, but right
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now I'd say we, we, we don't. Do you have a suspicion?
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I guess my suspicion that it's likely non human intelligence
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from some other Galaxy or far out in our own Galaxy that have
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come here with some time back and that there are stations
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here. Come they were So what 1 then
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seeing us there quoted in her harbor yet little boy empty at
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the propaganda you know I mean one of our remote viewers that.
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Was that was really good. I came up one day and said I was
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looking around and, and I think I found a UFO base on Earth.
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One of the plays he came up with was Mount Zeal in Australia.
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And so my CIA contract monitor says, well, I know the station
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keeper, CIA station keeper out in Australia.
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I think I'll call him and I won't tell him why I'm asking,
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but I'll ask him about Mount Zeal area.
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So he gave him a call. I'd like to ask you about that
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Mt Zeal area, he says. Oh, you mean where the UFOs are
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always flying? Around remote viewing whatever
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I cleared from and it Matthew Brown into USA weaponized
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podcast Jorge Napo, Jeremy Corbell Pentagon unrelated or
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top secret SCI clearance Sahana Tilgong til the internal network
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at the Dota network at J Wix odar the time for Immaculate
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constellation of ebiquity and plus there is some last info
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video on Europaea. I'll say that I riskier are
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lifted fingers Ella Dutstraf or the yelps of the ninja
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an unacknowledged special access programs on scar pressed hotels
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and oh don't if they lose or hope or New York Times or they
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are out that is public. It examples mamre teram rat
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a van Terra triangle some fronting stance, some of them of
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them that brand and ET UFO also some hovre dehar yenke ask if
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it's a futon. And you'd for betrayed the home
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of de some quete de fish tamai. Some of the offer one at Tom at
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European Disclosure Fund Anonada and it's Penny and some tall E
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Congressman mad Congress leader Mata Nervoranda Eric Berlisom,
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Lana to Anapolina Luna Luis Elizondo Avilov Team Guldea,
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Eric Davis, som sotok protera on specific Utah muldinger.
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And then they're insectoids, Nordics, Grays or reptilians.
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heart, they had to sit and Micky Frankenstein Dukti Wietenkop's
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man, some Proctor on specific Eutem Udiska Rosser till
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Congress leader murder Eden and Mikoska Congress.
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Then you know some flare over with some body valid all it
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you'd we don't have some Tolen OC a quartet.
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Eric Burleson Congress leader muten some hard Grush some
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staffer Hannah Frogger on Eric Davis can comment here at the
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harmed on the Havorat Ulika Rosser somewhere at pollute for
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Eric Davisaura tip is set so the flair Oleg author some folk
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proterone the Grayson Nordics or folk parte revenom reptiler
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insectuider or the interferate R reptiler Ellie insectuid reptili
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Nadan tipinov Humanoider, Burleson Frogger humonga.
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I am besetting or davisora and shenriand or grace from
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crascheni corona somkelas crascheni Roswell or at the dad
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of a grace sodamo fiera footlonga Anna intertonora huifo
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de lemire. Do you have or can you comment
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on whatever species have been piloting these crafts?
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How are they large? Are they, are they multiple
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species? Are they are they like what was
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their size and how many are usually on a craft?
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They're typically the multiple species people are familiar
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with. The Greys, the Mortons.
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People have talked about reptilians and insectoys.
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It's not that they're reptilian or insectoid and stuff.
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They resemble to the precipient of that tile or an insect type
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human world because they have this I had in 4 limbs and torso.
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So large. Small human size, human scale,
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and. Are there are there having your
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crew? Well the great well the greys
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I'm familiar with from investigating the crash at
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Corona, which is mis misnamed the the crash of Roswell.
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It's not the crash of Roswell, it's the.
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Crash of the road in Mexico. Those were appraisals were 4
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foot tall, and the Nordics are typically human size, probably
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actually 5-6 feet tall. And same with the people who
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mislabel reptilian and insect where they're roughly that top
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height too. I haven't heard anything about
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anything 7 or 8 feet in the right foot tall of that nature.
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hagotillo. Come and say yeah, I'm Popeker
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supermarket horse Enigma crash retrieval program, some Latin
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or Yum. Tommy Sansliga Hemdiga.
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I am from Atahari Mir Vale under Yum and Manhattan protected the
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human race. Basically the world's biggest
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governments like the United States, our adversary.
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China and Russia, at least as far as I know, have had the
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occasion to recover craft that have either landed or crashed or
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both in their territory or even outside of their territories and
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have taken those back to their more the most sensitive of their
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programs that they've ever had. These programs are even more
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sensitive and more well hidden than Manhattan Project was dumb.
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Absolute must have the Abrahamas of hints the Altiwa Tianda from
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Congress has ever seen President Eisenhower Hans Scott Barrevas
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Ancilla's presidential emergency action directives on the MO
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and had fought from a pelute whatever offered to demonstrate
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soccer when they have already at the for this rich much circular
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that used felt some he and his winkle suits some and at TF Ford
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How do you plot that's Mikkom. What are you seen at some of
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some Stephen Green street or MIC West or troll contener PO Evo
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So Eddie ET factum at Dunplanet Varrier the men Huna of Grace
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Nordics Altupa. The some some did it.
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You're like a poor Shugifer Minutera of Eric Davis Proctor
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from Congress son, will they see here lots of things.
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They link yours in this beginning.
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They have a little, they have a little altitude for a little
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better. For those who don't know, Doctor
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Davis was, and I'll let him answer this was, it was
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submitted into into into the matter of record for Congress a
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couple years ago, the Wilson Davis memo.
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It was alleged that he was the author of it.
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And if you don't know what that is, I'd encourage you to look it
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up. It has been entered as a matter
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of public record in the Congressional Record and it is
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extremely significant. This is the man.
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I won't say he did or he didn't. I'll let him tell you who
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offered that potentially and furthermore I know has had
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involvement in the UAP program specifically from a crash
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retrieval perspective. Now may be mindful here.
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Doctor Davis, please be careful of security classification, but
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do you mind sharing to the degree you're comfortable with
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your involvement with information related to crash
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retrievals and? And your experience?
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Sure. Another good.
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Call. Thank you.
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I've been, I'm an astrophysicist and also a what we worked on
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this at NASA and I called the breakthrough propulsion
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physicist who worked at breakthrough propulsion together
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from 1996 to 2002. And then we continued after that
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to develop a book that we published in the AI AA Press in
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2009, Frontiers of Propulsion Science.
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So my background is in advanced deep space and interstellar
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Space Flight, mostly faster than light propulsion during the use
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of general relativity theory and quantum field theory, as well as
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advanced nuclear propulsion like nuclear fission and nuclear
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fusion and the energy propulsion which I worked on as a principal
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investigator for the Air Force research lab I took on Air Force
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Base. So I've got quite a broad
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background and I began my work in UFOs or UEP started in 1996.
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Robert Bigelow hired me to work for him as his director of
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aerospace physics and astrophysics at the National
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Institute for Discovery Science. And that was a, that was a
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pretty transformative job for you because as a physical
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science, as I'm seeing for the first time, I've been on, I'm
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investigating it using forensic science techniques in the field,
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interviewing witnesses, collecting data.
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And I have a team of colleagues on the staff that I work with,
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also pH DS. And we have a little class
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science Advisory Board, which my former boss in Austin helped put
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off. I was on the was on the board of
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direct, was on that science Advisory Board, who was the last
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chairman of that board. Actually, we also had Apollo 14
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astronaut at Mitchell and for a short time Apollo 17 astronaut
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Jack Schmidt. And we had many, many
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academicians and former CIA national intelligence officers,
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social psychologists, psychologists, medical doctors
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and nuclear engineers and the list goes on.
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We had chocolate primarily as well.
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So it was a really transformative because I grew up
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in the 60s and 70s and I became familiar with Carl Sagan.
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Carl Sagan and Strong reported Page co-authored a book called
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UFOs, a Scientific Debate, which was published by the AAA S
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Press. The AAA S is the American
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Association for the Investment of Science, and Science is their
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prestigious journal that they publish.
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And so that was a prestigious publication.
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Every chapter was authored by experts in the field, in
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academia who have studied UFOs and some angle of it from the
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scientific data standpoint, data that was collected, data that
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was analyzed, and so they presented it and published the
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book for bizarre reason. In the 1980s Carl Sagan had this
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wonderful astronomy show called Cosmos and the companion book
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for that. And what's ironic is that he
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changed 180°. He all of a sudden went from
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being UFOs. We have in this book that I
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co-author or Co edited with Portland page all of this
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wonderful data that's been collected that is not
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explainable due to conventional astronomical weather or man made
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explanations or events or objects.
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I'm I'm now calling it pseudoscience.
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It's French science. People are mistaken.
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Pilots have poor vision, military pilots especially, and
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I've heard that from Leonard David, who's a site aerospace
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engineering, aviation, space exploration writer and people
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like him who said that our military pilots, especially the
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ones that the USS Nimitz during its encounter of the Tic Tac UAP
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back in November 2004, oh, yes, those pilots have poor vision.
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They're flying what, $20 million fighter aircraft and they have
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poor vision. How did they get through the
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Naval Aviation program in Top Gun School with poor vision?
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Doctor Davis, could you could you elaborate a little bit on?
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Your. Again, to the degree that
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you're. So.
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So it was a transformative issue for me.
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Or or a job. It transformed my worldview.
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It opened up my worldview to a lot more possibilities than what
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I was used to thinking as a trained PhD physicist.
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I earned my doctorate in astrophysics at the University
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of Arizona in 91. And so I worked on three space
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missions in Graduate School. The IRS, which is the infrared
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astronomical satellite program and the two boy drew issues
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together. So as pertaining to the topic
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that Lou. Wants me to talk about.
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I'm not trying to avoid it. It is a sensitive subject.
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So it's due to Astronaut Ed Mitchell, Dr. Ed Mitchell,
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Captain US and retired because of him and I won't go into a
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long story, but it's because of him that I got on the trail of
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looking for the so-called legend within the UFO community.
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The retrieval of crashed or landed UAP craft or UFO craft is
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even known back in those days. And by the way, UAP, the term
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unidentified aerophenomenon goes back to the 1940s.
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Even so. So I followed this trail and I
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ended up over the course of the following 2 1/2 decades working
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for Bigelow, working for the Air Force Research Lab, working for
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how cut off at Ertech International Incorporated and
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then and then working at the Aerospace Corporation.
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So we're, we're working in a combination of industry and
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classified programs that we were contracted to do on behalf of
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the for the Defence Intelligence Agency and for the Pentagon
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agencies that we worked up and the UAP task force that Jay
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Stratton LED at the Office of Naval Intelligence.
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And so a Long story short is that I came into contact with
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industry leaders, technical scientists, both active duty and
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later retired, as well as intelligence officers, generals,
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Admirals, colonels, people who directed intelligence or human
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intelligence collection analysis directorates at the DIA and the
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Central Intelligence Agency who reached out to me to have me do
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some foreign UAP intelligence analysis and assessment.
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And so I have been exposed to so much in the classified room that
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I can tell you definitively that there isn't there there the
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human race, basically the world biggest governments like the
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United States, our adversary China and Russia, at least as
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far as I know, have had the occasion to recover that have
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either landed or crashed or boat in their territory or even
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outside of their territories and have taken those back to their
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more the most sensitive of their programs that they've ever had.
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These programs are even more sensitive and more well hidden
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than Manhattan Project was or, or the modern nuclear weapons
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industry and, and the US military and the Department of
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Energy programs to maintain and, and upgrade and modernize our
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nuclear weapons arsenal. And so this is one of the, this
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is one of the most well hidden programs.
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It is hidden from congressional oversight and always has been,
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and it was hidden by the action of the President Eisenhower, who
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instituted Presidential Emergency Action directives
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during his administration. These directives are not sharing
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with Congress. They are classified they and
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when the Freedom and Information Act was instituted in the 70s,
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it is not subject those are not subjected to the Freedom and
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Information Act request this. These directives provide cover
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for actions that are associated with the with the retrieval of
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these vehicles and the and the scientific engineering study of
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them and that takes place within the industry.
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What happens is the Department of Defense offices, CIA offices,
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they create shell companies. They give a sole source contract
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to the shell company who passes the money to a selected group of
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defense industry firms. And those firms will take that
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contract money and turn them around and use that as internal
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things called internal research and development funds, which
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they give to their own people inside their company, their own
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employees to do the reverse engineering and analysis and
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study of of these recovered fields.
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And so this avoids all congressional oversight that
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avoids the game baby. And it's one of the most clever
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techniques used to hide it. And as far as I know, only one
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four-star general and one three star admin were able to locate
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these programs. And and that's about as much as
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I can say they located the programs and they uncovered
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them. One got a lot of resistance and
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hostile reception and was told that he found who he was looking
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for. They were who they were
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suspected of being yesterday were a UFOUAP crash retrieval
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and reverse engineering program. The other one I have a lot more
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political power behind him because of his statue as a
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four-star general and he was able to get into the program and
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use his authority and his access.
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I think they call that a super user. the Super user have access
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to all ways as your own specialized access programs.
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So he had his capability to deal with him and that whole thing.
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I was fortunate to meet Dave Rush that the behest of Jay
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Stratton. Dave was ANRO liaison officer to
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the UAP Task force and Dave was working for his boss at the NRO
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which is situated in the second four skips of the Aerospace
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Corporation building in Colorado Springs.
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And I was assigned to work at the Aerospace Corporation
31:26
facility in Huntsville, AL because I was supporting NASA
31:29
space nuclear propulsion program office.
31:31
So Jay put Dave and and Dave's boss and I'm together and I
31:37
briefed them for 2 1/2 days just a week before COVID struck.
31:41
And Gabe took all of my classified and proprietary
31:46
information of all the investigations I did at Noon's
31:48
Afro and working for helping up at her tech.
31:51
And he took that data around with it and let you now know the
31:55
aftermath of that was his classified whistleblower
31:58
complain to the IG of the IC. And so there is a there, there
32:04
we have had this program going on in various guises, various
32:07
code names. Code names change roughly every
32:09
three years. They often shift around to the
32:12
major office and programmatic reorganizations for presidential
32:17
administration, presidential administration maybe every 5 to
32:20
10 years in some cases. And so these things are are very
32:24
old. They, they come in like time,
32:26
but they're still around. And the God lady that's been
32:29
involved I would say since the beginning in 1944 with the first
32:34
recovery of the building of the US Army's recovery of the craft
32:38
that crashed in Italy back in 1933. the United States aren't
32:41
even invaded Italy and pushed the Third Reich out.
32:45
They were able to cover that craft and bring it back to right
32:47
airfield. And all of the crash retrievals
32:50
that have taken place generally on land have gone to right
32:52
airfield. The majority of the crash
32:54
retrievals or recoveries or whatever situation was take
32:59
place in the maritime environment and I'm not sure
33:01
where that is going. I think they're probably also
33:03
going to write were in those days right airfield.
33:05
I don't know where they're going today though, because I've only
33:08
worked on the legacy history of this part of it up until about
33:13
the early twenty 10's and ever since the end of the OSAP and
33:17
the a tip. I don't know where that those
33:20
operations are going on these days.
33:23
So I think that's about it. If there was a question, I would
33:31
always ask, and I'll just say this really easily, Nestle King
33:34
and Ralph Blumenthal asked me this for an interview I gave
33:37
them in July of 2020 for the New York Times argument they
33:41
published. They interviewed Lou and Senate,
33:45
former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
33:47
I think Harry was already retired then, wasn't he?
33:49
Yeah. OK.
33:51
So I said basically my interface with the leadership at the
33:55
industry, which were a number of individuals is the following.
34:00
The crowd that have been recovered are not of the serve.
34:03
They're not mean by human beings.
34:04
They are not from this planet. They are not human.
34:08
They are an alien technology, whatever the word alien means,
34:12
are they extraterrestrial? We don't know.
34:14
We don't know what motives do they have?
34:17
Well, we need anthropologists and social psychologists and
34:20
philosophers to figure that out because they haven't
34:22
communicated that to us. So this is just like me and
34:26
Abby. We cannot answer questions like
34:28
motive. We just need to take data.
34:30
We, we call it measurements and signals intelligence in the
34:32
intelligence industry. And Abby, I support 1000%
34:36
because we need him to do what he needs to do.
34:39
UAPX is another group up from the University of Albany and
34:43
Albany, NY. They're doing that as well.
34:45
And there are other groups out there building up their own
34:47
sensor speeds to try and scan the sky full time 24/7 to look
34:52
for something that's high and definitely not weather,
34:54
definitely not an aircraft, and definitely not a kids blow.
34:58
Quite Cocker well. Thank you.
35:02
Doctor Davis, my recommendation would be at some point here to
35:05
get you in a classified setting like some of the rest of us
35:07
have. You've already done that before
35:09
and have a friend conversation with some of the representatives
35:12
who I think would be very interested to hear the other
35:16
part of that conversation which I'm aware of and.
35:18
And part of. The question goes to Doctor
35:23
Davis or Davis. We've had discussions at length
35:27
in certain settings in former official settings.
35:30
You know I've been part of. When we talk about exotic
35:32
material, I think it might be very helpful to the degree you
35:35
can. Can.
35:36
You please explain. What is?
35:39
What makes? Exotic material that has been
35:42
recovered from the US government exotic what makes it different
35:47
from. Atomically and chemically, it's
35:50
actually a very simple answer. It's the way it's fabricated.
35:54
It's the way it's fabricated. That's what makes it exotic.
35:56
It's not a new element that's never been discovered and placed
36:00
on the periodic table of elements.
36:02
No, no, the materials are in the periodic tables.
36:06
They're either radioactive isotopes that we already know of
36:10
or there are any of the other non radioactive, non actinide
36:12
elements on the table. It's just the combination of the
36:16
materials is unusual. It could be that you could say
36:19
that that's exotic, but it's the composition.
36:22
It's how you use built the crowd, the materials that form
36:26
the crowd and everything inside the crowd.
36:28
It's, it's quite exotic because one of the companies leadership
36:32
was a young material scientist when he graduated with his
36:36
doctorate in material science from one of the university, one
36:39
of the universities in Illinois back in 1970.
36:43
And he was hired by Ben Rich to work with him and a team at
36:47
Scopeworks. That was the advanced projects
36:50
development agency, I think is what blocking aircraft company
36:53
called him back in those days. So, so basically this is what he
36:59
was telling me. He's an advanced internal
37:01
scientist and he said, well, we didn't use the best diagnostic
37:05
equipment we had back in those days, which was 60s, seventies,
37:09
80s and 90s. And we could see the elements
37:14
through mass spectroscopy that compose these structures.
37:20
But when we look at how they're composed and structured, it's,
37:24
it's like nothing we've been able to fabricate on Earth.
37:27
We've never been able to reproduce it on Earth.
37:29
And we have no extrapolated engineering or physics
37:32
technology to tell us or inform us on how we can possibly learn
37:37
how to fabricate this on Earth. So they they understood that
37:40
it's the combination of the elements was very unusual.
37:43
It's counter intuitive, but it's the way the materials are
37:47
fabricated that's what makes it exotic.
37:51
So we have good ideas about these things and we can
37:53
speculate on what the best approach to take to build a work
37:57
bubble or the show of negative energy that would create a
38:00
traditional world, which would be a shortcut used based by
38:03
equal 2 distant points. But we have we have craft in our
38:08
possession. There are no physicists
38:11
literally working in those programs.
38:13
So basically mechanical aerodynamics, aerospace, thermal
38:16
control engineers, electronic electrical engineers and
38:19
material scientists. And material science is a part
38:21
of engineering overlaps chemistry as well.
38:25
And they've never had a physicist like him or I, they've
38:29
never had an applied physicist or an experimental physicist.
38:32
And so they are really lacking in the ability to understand.
38:37
Sir, the legacy program has been very insulated and insular.
38:40
So unfortunately it's, it's a bit of a figured my approach
38:44
here, but a bit of an incestuous community.
38:47
There's not a whole lot of outside involvement because it
38:50
is so highly classified. And that's been some of the
38:52
frustration and I think challenges, technologically
38:56
speaking, because we haven't been able to recently apply new
38:58
talent, new ideas, new theories to what may be what the US
39:04
government may be in possession of.
39:06
What about the energy potential? The energy is a question of
39:11
accomplishments. We're seeing.
39:13
Right. Yeah, we I haven't been able to.
39:15
Access that. Doctor Davis, can you talk for a
39:17
moment? Sorry about the Nimitz incident.
39:19
The calculations for the object to go from 80,000 feet within
39:23
less than a second, 50 feet over the water, what?
39:26
What type of energy requirement? We're talking about hundreds of
39:29
times the total electrical energy produced in the United
39:33
States annually. That's the kind of energy that
39:36
is representative of the observed features and
39:39
performances of UAP craft, especially the Tic Tac that the
39:43
new it's encountered in November of 2004.
39:46
And so it's hundreds and hundreds of times with the with
39:50
the United States produces annual electric and the
39:52
electrical power. And so that that compares really
39:56
well with the interstellar spacecraft that would travel
40:00
relativistic, ultra relativistic, ultra relativistic
40:03
being. Anywhere from 90 to 99% of the
40:07
speed of light. The energy just is
40:08
astronomically huge. So these craft, I have not been,
40:15
I don't have the security clearances I need to know to get
40:17
access to the technical details. But I made to understand that
40:20
the craft are consistent in size with the Tic Tac.
40:24
Even double in size of the Tic Tac, that would be up to about
40:28
100 feet long by 50 feet diameter of that type, boomerang
40:33
shaped craft, arrow shaped craft, triangle shaped craft and
40:37
so forth. The biggest one that had been
40:39
observed especially that we investigated at the end in 1999
40:43
involving Sky Air Force Base, that one was a 600 foot long
40:46
craft and it was about roughly 100 feet tall.
40:49
And so they don't have possession of craft like that.
40:53
I've never been told that. It's usually the more manned
40:56
scale something. They couldn't do Yeah, so.
40:59
We might be able to. Yeah, so, so we, we can only
41:03
speculate. I know Jim Mccaskey wrote in his
41:07
book, I don't remember the title of it, but anyway, it was
41:11
clocking with Colin Kelleher, who I worked with and George now
41:15
of KLASTV in Las Vegas. And so Jim mentioned, and I, Jim
41:19
was the program manager for the AAS, the ASAP, the AASWAPI think
41:27
it was. And, and so basically he
41:31
described in his book somebody, I, I don't know if it was him
41:34
because he never, I think he said it was him when inside one
41:37
of these craft that he had access to and they couldn't
41:41
recognize any propulsion or power devices or systems inside
41:45
the craft. It was completely unusual.
41:47
Travis Taylor and I have speculated that possibly they're
41:50
teleporting energy from a remote distant location where the
41:53
energy is produced. It's teleported to the craft and
41:56
that's how the craft can move around without having to carry a
41:58
propellant or rocket engine or or an advanced work drive engine
42:03
on it. That's one possibility that
42:05
we've speculated on, on the material so.
42:09
What you have me thinking is carbon can take multiple forms,
42:13
right? And are you saying that that is
42:15
the same with other material, other elements, the way in which
42:20
what we found is different forms of these elements that?
42:24
We it would be different. It would be different
42:26
combinations of the elements. Is the.
42:29
Ratios as well, correct, Yeah. So you're, you're, you're going
42:33
to have a variety of whatever structural part of this that
42:37
came off of the UAP. And I don't know because I
42:39
wasn't, I didn't have this. We've done it going just AP
42:43
access. I only have TSSCI.
42:45
So at the STI level, I was informed that there would be
42:48
combinations of elements from the periodic table, combinations
42:51
of their isotopes. So you have a variety of
42:53
elements as they naturally per or some isotopes of them mixed
42:57
together in a certain way. And then they're structurally
43:00
built in a very unusual way that even today we have no equivalent
43:04
or antelog to them. So these were these.
43:07
This is about as much as I was given information on Sai.
43:11
And do you have or can you comment on whatever species have
43:15
been piloting these crafts? How are they large?
43:23
Are they are they multiple species?
43:26
Are they are they like what was their size and how many are
43:30
usually on a crap? They're typically the multiple
43:32
species people really with the graze.
43:34
The Mortix people have talked about reptilians and insectoys.
43:38
It's not that they're reptilian or insectoid, it's that they
43:41
resemble to the precipitant of reptile or an insect type
43:46
humanoid because they have this I had in 4 limbs and torso.
43:53
So large. Small human size, human scale,
43:56
and. Are there are there having your
43:59
crew? Well, the well the Grays I'm
44:01
familiar with from investigating the crash at Corona, which is
44:06
mis misnamed the the crash at Roswell.
44:09
It's not the crash at Roswell, it's the crash at the Grove in
44:11
Mexico. Those were Grays.
44:13
Those were 4 foot tall, and the Nordics are typically human
44:18
size. Probably I've heard 5-6 feet
44:21
tall. I'm sitting with the people who
44:25
mislabel reptilian and insect where they're roughly that top
44:29
height too. I haven't heard anything about
44:32
anything 7 or 8 feet in a 90 feet tall of that nature.
44:38
So folks, what we're going to do here for a time, I think I
44:43
stepped down at the wrong time. We are going to take a 3 minute
44:49
break for a change here of the panel.
44:51
We're going. To roll right into it, I.