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Rushion Interviews Shaun Robinson details her transition through the film and television industry. From Hosting Access Hollywood to Executive Producing, · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host with
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions
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  Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of
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  Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals
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  Speaker 1: and live their very best life. It is time to
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  Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.
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  Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose a gift. If you
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  Speaker 1: have a gift, leave with your gifts and don't let
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  Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning or
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  Speaker 1: living your dream. My next guest is Sean Robinson. She's
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  Speaker 1: an Emmy Award winning journalists, television personality, author, producer, philanthropists,
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  Speaker 1: and she has a group, an Amazing Girls Activities empowerment
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  Speaker 1: activist organization. She's a proud graduate of an HBCU Spellman
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  Speaker 1: University in Atlanta, Georgia. Sean established the Seawan Foundation for
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  Speaker 1: Girls with Nurtures and supports underserved underrepresented girls and young
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  Speaker 1: women in the areas of stem health, arts, unity, and neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 1: Sean is the executive producer of the very entertaining a
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  Speaker 1: seven Deadly Sin series on Lifetime. We've been discussing her
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  Speaker 1: two new films that can currently be seen on Lifetime
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  Speaker 1: Wrath a seven and seven definitely sin story and Greed
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  Speaker 1: a seven deadly sinning story. Please work with the money
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  Speaker 1: making conversation Masterclass, my differend and good person. It always
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  Speaker 1: leads me down the road of happiness. Sean Robinson, how
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  Speaker 1: are you? You know? These are always really really cool
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  Speaker 1: conversations because you know, we've known each other, we have
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  Speaker 1: to say, twenty years, twenty plus years, and we've seen yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen each other, uh, we shape ourselves. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: each other being able to pivot, and we've seen each
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  Speaker 1: other get a clear understanding of finding our voice. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I know when I in twenty six two,
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  Speaker 1: when I stop managing Steve, it was a struggle for
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  Speaker 1: me to find my voice, you know, because I would
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  Speaker 1: say two year, two and a half years, I was
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  Speaker 1: still managing to Steve Harty and not receiving checks because
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  Speaker 1: that brand has been so established. And so you you
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  Speaker 1: had a similar You had established a relationship with an
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  Speaker 1: entertainment magazine that was that was a blessing and occuraged
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  Speaker 1: because people knew you from that, but then you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get away from that. But now as part of
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  Speaker 1: your resume. So now the blessing is part of your
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  Speaker 1: asset because your brand is now unders So many different
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  Speaker 1: positive umbrellas talk about pivoting and then being able to
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  Speaker 1: being able to, you know, work really hard to build
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  Speaker 1: a brand, and then redirecting that brand. Shawn, Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think that when you reach what is considered by
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  Speaker 1: many as the pinnacle, and you were staying there and
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  Speaker 1: you think that that is all the world is. And
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  Speaker 1: so I was. I was at a you know, a
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  Speaker 1: successful entertainment show for sixteen years. It was a long time,
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  Speaker 1: and it was, you know, I found myself after a while,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of coasting. You know. I came in when
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  Speaker 1: entertainment shows were that they had a different type of
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  Speaker 1: influence than they have today. Like, for example, if you know,
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  Speaker 1: if Beyonce had a new album out, or if George
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  Speaker 1: Clooney had a new movie out, we were one of
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  Speaker 1: the very few stops that they could make to promote
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  Speaker 1: their material because this was before social media, before Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: Twitter and all that. Now, Beyonce sends out a tweet
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  Speaker 1: that she's got a new album out and that's all
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  Speaker 1: the publicity she needs. And George Clooney, you know, gets
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  Speaker 1: on his social media and that's all the publicity they need.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a it's a lot different today and there
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  Speaker 1: are many, many, many different platforms. So I was very
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  Speaker 1: blessed to come to the show that I was on
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  Speaker 1: at a time when it held a power position in
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood that was different than it is today. So that
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  Speaker 1: was and I was a little black girl from Detroit, Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: and I was at hot in Hollywood and it was
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  Speaker 1: a really super super big deal and so I did everything.
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  Speaker 1: I squeezed everything out of that position that I could
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  Speaker 1: possibly squeeze. There was nothing else I could do that
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  Speaker 1: would be a challenge for me. Um, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I look at what is now the additional chapter. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even say the next chapter. I said, what is
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  Speaker 1: the additional chapter? And so you know, I still do
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  Speaker 1: my television work on on you know, Night to Day
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  Speaker 1: Fiancee and which is a behemoth and yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a that's seen in a hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: eight countries and territories. So it was very it's huge,
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  Speaker 1: but also like what is it what? I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be a content creator? I wanted to be an executive producer.
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  Speaker 1: So I started talking to producers people were much smarter
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  Speaker 1: than I was, and and said how do I do this?
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  Speaker 1: And I started thinking of different types of shows that
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  Speaker 1: I could produce, and so the seven Deadly Since series
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  Speaker 1: that it was started as a book by author Victoria
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Murray was really interesting, and so I optioned the
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  Speaker 1: entire series is to pitch them around town, which at
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  Speaker 1: a Lifetime in different places. Lifetime finally said yes, we
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  Speaker 1: want to do this, and um the partner was Bishop
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  Speaker 1: td Jake's, which was couldn't get a bigger producing partner
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  Speaker 1: in this type of uh, in this type of situation.
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  Speaker 1: And so Lust and Envy aired last year. This year
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  Speaker 1: it's Wrath and Greed. So um, yes, and so to
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  Speaker 1: see my name as an executive producer was was thrilling
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  Speaker 1: for me. Will you please slow down? We talked. This
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  Speaker 1: ain't no like a five minute of you. We talked,
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  Speaker 1: We talked, were talking. We'll be right back with more
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return
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  Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations master Class with Rushan McDonald. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen every one of them. Okay, it's four so far,
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  Speaker 1: like you said one. That's when you first came on
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  Speaker 1: the show talking about it, and we was excited. And
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  Speaker 1: this is seven we said, why are we And hopefully
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  Speaker 1: we've to do them all at the same level of
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  Speaker 1: you know, promotional push and excitement and the quality of
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  Speaker 1: actors and and this time around, you know, you have
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  Speaker 1: my boy, Eric Binet, you know, he's in Greed, and
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  Speaker 1: then you have Michelle Weird that's my girl from Destiny's Child.
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  Speaker 1: She's in uh, you know, Wrath. Okay, And the reason
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  Speaker 1: I bring these two people, these people are known for
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  Speaker 1: singing and they and they have major In fact, Michelle
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  Speaker 1: Willis is the star of that particular and is a major.
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  Speaker 1: Eric ban is a major player. Okay. He if he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't do his character right, the show does, the film
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work. Now he sells it. He sells it. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my goodness, he's very good. And of course the incredible
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Ray McCoy in that she played that play. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and and and and so. And I say this because
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  Speaker 1: you know when I watched when I consider your friend
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  Speaker 1: shop and I know when I see your name on
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  Speaker 1: the screen single card by myself, I just smiled. I
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  Speaker 1: smiled because I know there's a lot of hard work.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I don't want anybody to say what
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  Speaker 1: she said. Well, optioned out the book and then bitsh
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  Speaker 1: if TV Jakes was the only person that he came
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  Speaker 1: into this particular genre. Okay, this didn't happened over nineteen
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  Speaker 1: This is years. This was years, and it was it
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  Speaker 1: was It was tied to trust, It was trying to faith.
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  Speaker 1: It was tied to saying, I know this project. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna somebody's gonna find this, somebody's gonna enjoy it, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be frustrated by it because I'm Sean
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  Speaker 1: Robinson and I want to win. That's the story. I
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure people here very clearly. Can we
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  Speaker 1: talk on me. You have to you have to be
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  Speaker 1: ready for a lot of nose, okay, in this business,
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  Speaker 1: and you can't get frustrated by the nose. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've pitched so many projects even with this. I optioned
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  Speaker 1: these books in two thousand sixteen, and so I mean
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  Speaker 1: think this is twenty twenty two. So it's been a minute. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a minute. And along the way, there were
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  Speaker 1: many many struggles convincing people that this was going to
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  Speaker 1: be a great project. And actually people, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: the networks that I pitched it too, they really love
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  Speaker 1: the concept. But there was like, oh can we do it?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of I don't know if we could do it?
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  Speaker 1: You know, do we want this star? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: we thought we had a certain person and we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: And then that took a long time, and then the
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  Speaker 1: pandemic hit. I mean there were a lot of challenges, roadblocks,
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  Speaker 1: um that could have derailed the project and just not
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  Speaker 1: only derailed this project, but made me so you know,
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  Speaker 1: weary of this process that I could could upset. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this isn't for me. So you know it it
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  Speaker 1: takes a lot of tenacity, It takes faith, It takes endurance,
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  Speaker 1: It takes for civiliance, per severance, it takes strategic planning
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  Speaker 1: and just not being um, not being deterred. So don't
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  Speaker 1: be deterred. You know, if you feel that you have
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  Speaker 1: a vision, if you feel this is something that you're
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  Speaker 1: passionate about, keep on pushing. Just you have to keep
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  Speaker 1: on pushing. I mean there is another There was another
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  Speaker 1: project that I have been literally working on for probably
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  Speaker 1: about eight at least eight years, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: got real close and then it didn't happen, and then
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  Speaker 1: somebody just called back, oh, hey, do you still have
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  Speaker 1: that project we might be interested in. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I still have it. So just still
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  Speaker 1: got it. So just know that there's certain things that
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  Speaker 1: are going to take longer to materialize. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: case may bake in five minutes and this cake may
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  Speaker 1: bake in five years. Okay, so it just depends on
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  Speaker 1: what the project is. But keep pushing. Now, these two
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  Speaker 1: projects that we're talking about, these two films, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: Wrath and Greed, let's let's let's talk about exactly what
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  Speaker 1: that seven deadly Seen series is and why it is
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  Speaker 1: important because each one came from a different style standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: because because because the Wrath was a straight on acting
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  Speaker 1: and then you had voiceover a lot more so in Greed,
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  Speaker 1: because it was like telling the story how you can
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  Speaker 1: make it was it was. It was a different way
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  Speaker 1: of presenting it, but it was still world received by me.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that whole presentation and how you picked the
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  Speaker 1: the writers and the directors and all that for each
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  Speaker 1: one of these different projects. Yeah, and at the center,
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  Speaker 1: the seven deadly sins that people know um are morale
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  Speaker 1: the tales. Okay, you know the wages of sin is death,
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  Speaker 1: but there is redemption, and so these are stories of
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  Speaker 1: there there's going to be redemption in our films. So
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  Speaker 1: um so that's where we're starting with. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: are um, you know, we are presenting these to our
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  Speaker 1: faith based audience. Um and if you are not faith based,
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  Speaker 1: you might be after you watch our movies. So um
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  Speaker 1: So that was a really important and you know each
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  Speaker 1: story is going to be told a little differently. Then
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  Speaker 1: is going to be told a little differently, but at
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  Speaker 1: the key, at the basis to all of them, there
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  Speaker 1: is um there that these are morality tales and these
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  Speaker 1: are faith based stories. So that's what you have to
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  Speaker 1: be prepared for. But their fun, rise, their sexy, it's thrilling,
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  Speaker 1: um it is. You know, you never know what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen next. You think, you go, okay, this this,
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  Speaker 1: I bet you this happens, and then something totally different happens.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I got a call Michelle Williams. You
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  Speaker 1: know that there's a couple of seeds. I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to call and teaser because she's like my love, little
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  Speaker 1: love docter. You know, a little you right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, she got trade sexy up in there,
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  Speaker 1: and and then she got sexy and it did. It
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  Speaker 1: was fun, I was it was fun watching it. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to just say this, when you when you
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  Speaker 1: hear the word faith based, people tend to run, oh
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  Speaker 1: I want preaching to meet. No. Yes, she's absolutely correct,
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  Speaker 1: but it's written so organically. Did when I hear them
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  Speaker 1: delivering that statement or that message of what Wrath is
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  Speaker 1: all about, the point of view of why we're doing
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  Speaker 1: this particular film, the message underlying message we're trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: I have not taken aback. It's really that well done.
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  Speaker 1: I I I can't forget Romeo Miller's in there, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the one with with with Michelle Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Uh, you know, Beyonce's mom is in that
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  Speaker 1: Tina Knows Lawson, who I know for my days of Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: I go way back with her, way back, and I've
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  Speaker 1: been knowing her since ninety two because I brought because
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  Speaker 1: I had a comedy club called Hip Hop Comedy Stopping
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  Speaker 1: and I brought Destiny Child on stage. That's how far
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  Speaker 1: back I go. Of course, way back then, Michelle Williams
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  Speaker 1: was some part of the group. I met Michelle later
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  Speaker 1: when she joined the group, but I've been knowing Destiny
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  Speaker 1: Child all the way back to two, so that my relationship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just just seeing that whole Just seeing Tina, I just
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  Speaker 1: laughed and smiled at myself because she had a really
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  Speaker 1: big beauty song. That's how I met her in Houston
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  Speaker 1: at the time, and then she was making a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money. She was very popular, I believe the name
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  Speaker 1: of his headliners in Houston, Texas at the time. And
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  Speaker 1: just see how you can again pivot and then readjust
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  Speaker 1: your career and move forward. And but each one of
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  Speaker 1: these was different. How does the cast process happened? And
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  Speaker 1: do you participate in the casting process? Shot? Oh, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: as uh one of the executive producers. I definitely participate
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  Speaker 1: in the casting process. So you know, we think about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, who the character is and who you know,
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  Speaker 1: who are a list of people who would be good
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  Speaker 1: playing them, but also you've got to think about their
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  Speaker 1: relationship with the other characters. So when we you know,
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  Speaker 1: when we knew we had Michelle, we were so excited
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we were thinking, Okay, who would be
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  Speaker 1: a good mother figure to because the mother is very
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  Speaker 1: important in her life. Oh can we get her? You know,
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  Speaker 1: So then that process started, so uh and then then
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  Speaker 1: you do you want good chemistry between the leading lady
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  Speaker 1: and the men in her life. And so you know,
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  Speaker 1: Romeo was just absolute fantastic. They had great chemistry. And
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Coupo also with Michelle, they were just they were
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  Speaker 1: just handing it up on set. It was really funny.
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  Speaker 1: So um and so yes, you have to think about
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  Speaker 1: the character's relationship to other characters in the movie and
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  Speaker 1: how that would play. So yeah, we think we get
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  Speaker 1: did a good job. We have a really great cast
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  Speaker 1: both on Wrath and on Greed. We'll be right back
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  Speaker 1: with more money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't share her name, and she's the
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  Speaker 1: lead in in Greed. That's Monique cole That's Monique Coleman.
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  Speaker 1: That's my girl. She can I go past this and
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  Speaker 1: not act like I didn't see her in this film?
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  Speaker 1: You know, lady down, Yeah, greeds lapter in the face
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  Speaker 1: several times. She found the facts of life. We just
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  Speaker 1: don't just laying at there and that. But it was
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  Speaker 1: all again organic, it was all very realistic. It was
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  Speaker 1: all the characters I found relatable. A boar friend and
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  Speaker 1: how she kind of disconnected from him because he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: living a lifestyle and everything made this kind of nighting
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  Speaker 1: shign and armor who everything. He was older, he was worldly,
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  Speaker 1: he could jump on a private jet and go to
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  Speaker 1: any way he wanted to go. And he found this
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  Speaker 1: young lady who wanted these things. And that's what this
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  Speaker 1: series is about. You know. It's like, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things. Be careful what you wished for.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not always what you expect. That was
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  Speaker 1: That's what makes this That's I saw both movies back
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  Speaker 1: to back, and I didn't see him being similar at all. Bravo,
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  Speaker 1: Bravo excellent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're very different, very different.
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  Speaker 1: But at the key, like I said, it's that, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know what happens when you commit one of these sins.
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  Speaker 1: This is what can happen. So hopefully people will think
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  Speaker 1: twice you know, um, somebody said, uh, somebody asked me, well,
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  Speaker 1: so what's up. What's the message and greed and what's
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  Speaker 1: the message in Wrath I said, don't be greedy, don't
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  Speaker 1: have wrath. That's about that's the bottom line, right, and
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  Speaker 1: then ignore the signs of when it is happening to you.
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  Speaker 1: And that's so that's that's what it really abounts to
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  Speaker 1: as well, because we all deal with these decisions that
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  Speaker 1: we have to make and we, like I said, the
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  Speaker 1: morality is the base of what we all make our decisions.
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  Speaker 1: When you venture into these different sins, then it tells
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  Speaker 1: you or is it are you being consumed by it?
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  Speaker 1: And each movie you will see in Wrath an individual
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  Speaker 1: is consumed by that rap and how that wrath affects
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  Speaker 1: other people around that person. We is consumed when that
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  Speaker 1: person is consumed by that greed. You will see how
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  Speaker 1: that greed not just impacts them, but the people they
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote care about and the people that they call
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  Speaker 1: their rinds and business association. That's what I loved about
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  Speaker 1: these episodes their own lifetime right now, please please watch
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  Speaker 1: them with your friends, your family, you know, take a screenshot,
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  Speaker 1: tell us somebody and posted on social media, let them
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  Speaker 1: know you're watching it so they can get a good
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  Speaker 1: feel for quality program and being done by incredible African Americans, producers,
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  Speaker 1: my man Bishop T d J. And my favorite person
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  Speaker 1: in the world, Sean Robinson. But the thing I always
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  Speaker 1: loved a boy Sean is that it always goes beyond
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  Speaker 1: what she does as an entertainer. Impactful your program, Sean,
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  Speaker 1: you know that we're talking about this several years. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us what's going on with it and and impact that
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  Speaker 1: you're making. And I've rant into New York one day
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  Speaker 1: at the London Hotel were talking about it, so I
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  Speaker 1: know how long this has been going on and how
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  Speaker 1: you would travel to Great Lens to get the word
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  Speaker 1: out about it. Yeah. So my foundation is called the
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  Speaker 1: Sean Foundation for Girls. I created it back in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen after I left Access Hollywood for so long.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, my my parents always taught me, if
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  Speaker 1: God gives you a platform music to get back, and
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  Speaker 1: so that's what I did. I created this foundation and
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  Speaker 1: what we do is we support UH small nonprofits that
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  Speaker 1: are doing work in five key areas of girls issues,
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  Speaker 1: and those areas are represented by the acronym of my
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  Speaker 1: name s j U n SO s A STEM science, technology, engineering,
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  Speaker 1: and math, ages, health as arts. You is unity and
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  Speaker 1: in his neighborhood. So if there is a nonprofit that
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  Speaker 1: is doing work in one of those five key areas,
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  Speaker 1: we would possibly goose for them. So and Sean, what
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  Speaker 1: I hope to my vision and what I hope to
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  Speaker 1: continue to grow the Sean Foundation for Girls as it's
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  Speaker 1: really a go to resource for these small nonprofits that
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting raising money is tough for any You've
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  Speaker 1: been in many charity events and they got a big
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  Speaker 1: folk to give the money. So it's hard and when
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  Speaker 1: you are a small nonprofit, a small charity, it's even
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  Speaker 1: harder because a lot of times you don't have the resources.
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  Speaker 1: And so I felt compelled to help those organizations that
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  Speaker 1: are working directly with girls, predominantly girls of color, underserved
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  Speaker 1: in underrepresented girls, and to help them in their mission.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, uh, I was just at this philanthropy
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  Speaker 1: conference and it was it was with women who were
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  Speaker 1: philanthropists like myself, and one of the things that we
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  Speaker 1: had talked about and you probably know this is very
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  Speaker 1: important for Sean because you run into business. You know
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  Speaker 1: how many how all the line items there are to
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  Speaker 1: running a business, and so a lot of times when
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  Speaker 1: people give to charity, a lot of times you know,
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  Speaker 1: when people give grants to charity, small nonprofits, they're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we want our money to go to this, this and this. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to go just to this mission, just to that.
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  Speaker 1: And so let's say you have, um, you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: say you have a homeless shelter. Let's say you have
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  Speaker 1: a shelter for homeless and so somebody might give you
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  Speaker 1: money and say, Okay, I want this just to go
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  Speaker 1: for clothing for the women in the homeless shelter. That's
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  Speaker 1: just an example. Well that's great, But here's what happens
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  Speaker 1: with Sean is that what are the other what are
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  Speaker 1: the other line volumes that you need when you're running
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  Speaker 1: a business, and a nonprofit is a business. You've got
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  Speaker 1: to keep the lights on, Okay, you have to have
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  Speaker 1: food for the people that um you know that you serve,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the secretary, the cleaning people to come and
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  Speaker 1: clean your business. You've got the telephone bill. All of
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  Speaker 1: those are line items, and it's hard to get money
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  Speaker 1: for that because a lot of people they when they
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  Speaker 1: give the money, they okay, I just want I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go to this one thing. So what we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about at this Philanthropy conference that we just
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  Speaker 1: had just so many great, great women talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's the importance of giving unrestricted funds to nonprofits. Unrestricted
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  Speaker 1: means they can use them in any areas. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: not and granted, there has to be there has to
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  Speaker 1: be checks and balances in the nonprofit world because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't you want to make sure that the nonprofit
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  Speaker 1: you're doing, you vet them, and that's what we do.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the Sean Foundation for Girls us. We we
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  Speaker 1: we we vet these organizations. We make sure they're doing
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  Speaker 1: the work. We'll make sure we are making sure they're
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  Speaker 1: impactful and they're they're impacting girls lives, uh for you know,
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  Speaker 1: for the positive. And then we say, okay, so we
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  Speaker 1: want to help you with your mission, so we're giving
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  Speaker 1: you these funds so that you can continue your mission.
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  Speaker 1: And I used to say, Okay, you gotta use it
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  Speaker 1: in this area, and then I realized, like many people
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  Speaker 1: are realizing, in what's called trust based philanthropies, Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: trust you. Okay, I'm gonna trust you to use this
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  Speaker 1: money in the best way possible so you can continue
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  Speaker 1: helping the people helping the girls and young women that
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  Speaker 1: you served, So that was that, that was that was
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  Speaker 1: my growth as a philanthropist and how I want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that my foundation helps as many organizations and
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  Speaker 1: as many people as possible. Well, that's just an example
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  Speaker 1: of that. Like Mackenzie Scott, she gave four or four
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  Speaker 1: one billion dollars to HBCUs with no restrictions. That's what
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  Speaker 1: she's starting exactly. You know, she trust one trusted them.
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  Speaker 1: She said, hey, here's the money. Here's fifty million dollars
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  Speaker 1: prey of you them. Do what you need to better
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  Speaker 1: serve your community, the students, the infrastructure, and put it
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  Speaker 1: and we trust that you're going to do the right
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  Speaker 1: thing with this money. Exactly. She could have said, here's
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  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars and it's got to go to scholarships.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's got to go to scholarships for fifty
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  Speaker 1: people whatever. You know, he said, I trust you because
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  Speaker 1: I vetted you already and I know that you're doing
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  Speaker 1: the work, so I trust you to take this and
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  Speaker 1: do what you need to do to continue that mission.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what she's saying. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: give clarity exactly what that you know I just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: word HBCUs you know, you're you're graduate one of the
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  Speaker 1: great ones and schools in this country that deliver black
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  Speaker 1: excellence on the regular basis Spellman I always like, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I know spelling College, you know, and uh, you know
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: there's only with Benedict College. There's only two all female hpcus, right,
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  Speaker 1: Benedict College. I believe in spell you know I should
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  Speaker 1: know that, but I think he's on the Wow, I'm
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  Speaker 1: used to know it all. I'm used to know it all.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna just throw out information that I
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  Speaker 1: claim to be correct. The beauty of going to that school,
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  Speaker 1: can you just tell my listeners and my viewers. You know,
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  Speaker 1: spell in College really taught me the value of sisterhood
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  Speaker 1: and that when you invest in a girl, she can
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  Speaker 1: change the world. And also, like, you know, I graduated
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago and I can meet a Spellman
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  Speaker 1: sister today and still have a connection. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: the value of going to that school has has really
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  Speaker 1: shown me. It's about you will always have a connected
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  Speaker 1: I I you know, see people, uh, women will say
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  Speaker 1: I'm your Spellman sister, your spelling sister, and it's just
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't go to school at the same time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Or anything. But it's just a connection that we have
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: because we love our school and we knew that our
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: school taught us that you will have a connection to
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  Speaker 1: each woman that walks out of these doors after having
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  Speaker 1: this experience. So that's yeah. I do anything I can
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  Speaker 1: to promote Spellman, and she does a great job promoting
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  Speaker 1: her too, incredibly uh A series overall, she's already done two, one,
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  Speaker 1: three or four. That's Wrathing Breeders out right now on
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• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but more important by my friend, uh Sean Robinson. Please
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show, and that's always
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I support you and keep moving the head and keep
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: delivering black excellence because you've been doing it, then I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: can say it. You know you still look fantastic over
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: several decades. Appreciate you. If you want to hear, thank you.
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