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Lyn and David E. Talbert creators of the Netflix hit musical "Jingle Jangle: A Christmas Journey," Areva Martin, civil rights attorney & CNN Analyst, Will Downing, the Prince of Sophisticated Soul, and Shonda Scott, CEO of 360 Total Concept · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: They are directing and producing the hit Netflix musical Jingle Jangle,
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Speaker 1: A Christmas Journey a Reba Martin. She's an award winning
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Speaker 1: Power Couple Land and David E. Tabo. They currently have
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Speaker 1: trending on Netflix. They told me already thirty two countries
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Speaker 1: they've been number one. They've got premiered in a hundred
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Speaker 1: and ninety countries. Netflix Jingle Jangle A Cristmas Story, a
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Speaker 1: live action musical. Their digital film critics include you may
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Speaker 1: be familiar with these first Sunday Back Exclaimed, Almost Christmas
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Speaker 1: and El Camino Christmas. They're also releasing two books, The
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Speaker 1: Square Root of Possible, A Jingle Jango Story is a
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Speaker 1: picture book for ages four through eight, and Jingle Jangle
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Speaker 1: with the Invention of Gerona Doronicus A Jangle is a
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Speaker 1: middle grade novel for ages eight through twelve. Please Work
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Speaker 1: with the money Making conversation My man and my Lady,
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Speaker 1: I said, I said my first lay the first lady
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Speaker 1: then and David E. Tawn. You know the beauty of it,
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Speaker 1: because I have a fantastic relationship with Netflix. They just
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Speaker 1: sit in the movie I put in the past where
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Speaker 1: I just get them first out. And so every since
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Speaker 1: this movie on a rate, I've been trying to get
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Speaker 1: to you. I've been trying to get to you because
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to, first of all, to let you
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Speaker 1: know how much I love you and also how much
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Speaker 1: I you know, even before I saw the movie, how
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Speaker 1: proud I've been up our relationship and what you've done,
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Speaker 1: you know, all the way back to Radio DJ. You know,
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Speaker 1: play right, you know, sitting in the l A go
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Speaker 1: just just making our own dreams come to. Many stories
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Speaker 1: we had back in you in l A when you
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Speaker 1: was when you was relaunching your your plays back and
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Speaker 1: then always been a fan of you and just watching
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Speaker 1: your story and then being introduced to Lend and her story.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to just tell you, Man, I love
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Speaker 1: you too. And meeting the first lady officially again, but
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Speaker 1: also with our history, Man has always been powerful and
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Speaker 1: just seeing the project that you put out and and
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Speaker 1: the thing I love about Netflix is that, you know,
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Speaker 1: we always have a hard time trying to get black
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Speaker 1: projects seen nationally internationally. You know, they always kicked out
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Speaker 1: as domestic products. And then when it goes internationally, oh well,
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Speaker 1: you know, we may take you to the Caribbean, we
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Speaker 1: may throw your bone and send you to South Africa.
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Speaker 1: But no, no, But Netflix A hundred and naty countries
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Speaker 1: is where your project premiers. Tell us about that that
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Speaker 1: response and the reaction, and it's been you know, Len
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Speaker 1: and I've been been caring this for a while, but man,
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Speaker 1: just go seeing your brother and thank you for everything
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Speaker 1: over the year. Brother, You've always reached out. You didn't
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Speaker 1: have to and and and and pull the brother up
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Speaker 1: man and gave me a voice and a platform. So
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Speaker 1: just thank you man for all the year what you've
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Speaker 1: done for artists like myself and giving him a voice
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Speaker 1: and the platform. So thank you brother. Well he has
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Speaker 1: a great voice to lend. You know, well, you know
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Speaker 1: the whole project you know of a musical, you know
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Speaker 1: that is always not that's that's non traditional. You know,
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Speaker 1: usually have action adventures in black movies, comedies and black movies,
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Speaker 1: but musical is non traditional. Tell us that whole setting
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Speaker 1: it up and selling it to the studios and bringing
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Speaker 1: it forth because this is not something that's done in
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Speaker 1: a year. This is a time consumed project. Well you
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Speaker 1: know it's it's uh the responsible and overwhelming man. You know,
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Speaker 1: we've been we've been working on this for decades and
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Speaker 1: you know with the vision was always to invite us
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Speaker 1: to the table of big event. Uh, the world's a
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Speaker 1: wonder in magic, you know, watching Harry Potter and watching
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Speaker 1: Willie Wonka and watching you know, Kitty Kitty Bangs Mary Coppins.
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Speaker 1: Ain't know none of us ever in in the world,
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Speaker 1: and so that was an idea too. You know, we
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Speaker 1: imagine we imagine for you know, kids that look like
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Speaker 1: us all around the world can see themselves as as
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Speaker 1: as wonderful and magical and all that stuff. So that
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Speaker 1: was really kind of the spirit. And when I got
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Speaker 1: a chance to watch, you know, growing up watching The
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Speaker 1: Wiz and that just you know, you know, that just
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Speaker 1: blew me away. With Michael Jackson and Diana Ross. I
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Speaker 1: always wanted to do something that was original, that that
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Speaker 1: could really you know, heighten our imagination and and and
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Speaker 1: the plays were musical that we've done for so many years.
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Speaker 1: They were musical, all musical based plays, been playing around
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Speaker 1: music for twenty years. And Netflix came along, you know,
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Speaker 1: when we had our son Lynn had we didn't have
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Speaker 1: our son Len had, but when he came along, it
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's time to put something out there
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Speaker 1: for him to see people that look like him. And
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Speaker 1: that was really when it started to become from doing
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Speaker 1: it as a Broadway play to doing it as a
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Speaker 1: future right. Yes, um, that's that's really the basis of
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Speaker 1: it all, you know, wanting to feed our inner child
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Speaker 1: as well representation. You know, it's very important, as you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: about being part of the world and not just domestically
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Speaker 1: and that's where we're getting most. A lot of the response,
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Speaker 1: you know, is from the world, and I mean moms
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Speaker 1: and mothers especially, but just everyone coming to me saying Lynn,
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Speaker 1: that is me as me. You don't know what that
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Speaker 1: means to me, you know, just in tears, grown men
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Speaker 1: in tears, being tapping into that inner child, something that
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Speaker 1: they didn't know that they wanted to see and feel.
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Speaker 1: So it's it's been amazing to have an opportunity like
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Speaker 1: this and Netflix really got behind us as far as
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Speaker 1: the story that we wanted to tell and the visual
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Speaker 1: that we wanted to see. And um, you know it,
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Speaker 1: I say, David's being modest, but I feel like we
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Speaker 1: did this project in record time. If you compare it
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Speaker 1: to many of the projects like this, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: in record time, like from where we didn't have a
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Speaker 1: song from day one to complete this in the matter
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Speaker 1: of two years. It's it's it's unbelievable. But it's our
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Speaker 1: theater background that has helped us, you know, maneuver through
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Speaker 1: things quickly and to get things done quickly because we
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Speaker 1: hadn't had the luxury a budget and time, you know.
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Speaker 1: So um, that's kind of how we roll and just
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Speaker 1: really grateful and exciting and proud when when you use
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Speaker 1: the word inner child, the young lady who played the
8:13
Speaker 1: role with Journey madlanles Um. You know, I get to
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Speaker 1: see talent, you know, the growing up talented. But what
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Speaker 1: did you guys find her? Was it the casting session
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Speaker 1: all you just said she's the one because she was phenomenal. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're flewing the new We did a worldwide talent search
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Speaker 1: flewing in New York. Um we live down to five finalists.
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Speaker 1: When we flew in there and I walked in there
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Speaker 1: with Seawan and she didn't come there to audition. She
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Speaker 1: came tore to take what was hers and it was undeniable.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't even a fair fight, you know. And that
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Speaker 1: little girl is everything. I mean, we're looking at Shirley
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Speaker 1: Temple and Judy Garland, we're looking at all of that
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Speaker 1: kind of magic and one there um and someone who's
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Speaker 1: like an old soul and a young person's body right right,
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Speaker 1: and you got it and then that's what you know,
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Speaker 1: like that build out and that that's what impressed me
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Speaker 1: so much. But like let's go with Lynn said, you know,
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Speaker 1: two years what sound stage did you guys use? What
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Speaker 1: was this shot at It was shot in London and
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Speaker 1: the stages were called arbor Field. We actually it used
9:24
Speaker 1: to be an army base and we took over the
9:28
Speaker 1: whole thing. You know. We had one section where certain
9:31
Speaker 1: sets were wrong. We had another section we were doing stunts.
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Speaker 1: We had another section for offices, another section for props.
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Speaker 1: So we had the full basis where they like Star
9:41
Speaker 1: Trek and Aladdin. Um So we were among good company,
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Speaker 1: you know, coming in there. But first of all, I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna let y'all be humble here on this project,
9:51
Speaker 1: you know, because that's why I wanted to say, what
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Speaker 1: sound stage, Because I know if you have not seen
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Speaker 1: the movie Jingle Jangle, it's on Netflix, a Christmas story,
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Speaker 1: you could this journey, excuse me, And it starts out
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Speaker 1: in the beginning with a very elaborate dance sequence that
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Speaker 1: just set the tone, you know, just like I said,
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Speaker 1: I wanted to guy, I'm just looking at your David Gorn.
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Speaker 1: You know, my wife and I love being who I
10:16
Speaker 1: am because you know, when you when you see people
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Speaker 1: at work, you go, that's my board right there, I see,
10:23
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm when I'm walking through the sequence.
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Speaker 1: How do you, David put the dance sequence there was
10:31
Speaker 1: on the ladder, they came down, they come off the ladder,
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Speaker 1: they're singing, just walking through that whole step process of
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Speaker 1: storyboarding out that. Then they go outside they dancing, you
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Speaker 1: know that all that. You know, like, you know, I'm
10:45
Speaker 1: just sitting up there. I'm just sitting up there, David going,
10:47
Speaker 1: you got to be kidding me. And then y'all sitting
10:49
Speaker 1: up at Linneau where you know we just get kids.
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Speaker 1: You're like, you're like my board known for forty years
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Speaker 1: and you seen me all my life. He's like, dude,
11:01
Speaker 1: he was like, son, this is like a real movie.
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Speaker 1: You made, like a real movie. I'm like, I made
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Speaker 1: a lot of movies and know, yeah, like this is
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Speaker 1: like a movie movie. But I took I watched the
11:15
Speaker 1: movie The Greatest Showman, which I loved the choreography. So
11:18
Speaker 1: I hired the choreographer, Ashley Walland who did that movie,
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Speaker 1: Brother from Australia, and so he came in and we
11:26
Speaker 1: just talked about scaled and scope, and we talked about
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Speaker 1: all those MGM musicals from you know, the early days
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Speaker 1: of the fifties and forties and all that you Oliver
11:39
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yeah, where you saw a full
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Speaker 1: body dancing, and that's what I said. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: be a spectacle. Um because if you ask any any
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Speaker 1: black person with their favor musical, and they're gonna all
11:52
Speaker 1: say the Wind, Yes, that's crazy. I mean that's forty
11:58
Speaker 1: years ago. So but I wanted to make something that
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Speaker 1: was a spectacle, something that was big, something that when
12:07
Speaker 1: you saw it, and I would tell my friends all
12:09
Speaker 1: the time, like, you know, this is something. You know,
12:11
Speaker 1: this is pretty big movie, like oh man, bless you, day,
12:14
Speaker 1: God bless you. It's gonna be one of the days
12:16
Speaker 1: place ain't doing one of his play you know, you know, Sean,
12:20
Speaker 1: I just couldn't put it in. But but when I
12:23
Speaker 1: showed that first scene and people doing back to cameras
12:28
Speaker 1: up here, you know, stepping off, then you get it.
12:34
Speaker 1: But it was it was just a vision of wanting
12:37
Speaker 1: to present us as in the best possible, the boldest,
12:42
Speaker 1: most beautiful, vibrant light. And when it came to the costumes,
12:46
Speaker 1: even then, um, you know it's a Victorian era. So
12:51
Speaker 1: our costume design was like, Okay, we're gonna do the
12:54
Speaker 1: costumes in the Victorian era, and then well, I look
12:58
Speaker 1: for us, we're looking at the period. So for me,
13:01
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we're only maybe one or two
13:03
Speaker 1: generations from your ancestors, so that to me would have
13:08
Speaker 1: been infused. And I just wanted to just glorify our
13:12
Speaker 1: beauty and our heritage and our hairstyles and fabrics and
13:16
Speaker 1: all of those things within this period. I wanted something
13:21
Speaker 1: original that you've never seen, but it was still as
13:24
Speaker 1: vibrant and colorful as The Wizard of Oz and all
13:29
Speaker 1: the movies that we would see that would just be
13:32
Speaker 1: it would just pop off the screen, you know, but
13:36
Speaker 1: so rooted in and grounded, you know, because if you notice,
13:40
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like like we would all wear those clothes,
13:44
Speaker 1: you know, look like a costume. It looked like there
13:49
Speaker 1: they're they're African in there, you know. And so that's
13:55
Speaker 1: really what it what it was. I wanted to highlight
13:59
Speaker 1: just the beauty of us so that it could be normalized,
14:03
Speaker 1: you know, and we see it every day walking on
14:06
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14:09
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Speaker 1: Well you you guys delivered on the big screen. You
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Speaker 1: delivered the humor, you delivered the heart. And then, like
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Speaker 1: I said, just throwback like far At Whittaker. Okay, so
15:30
Speaker 1: I was in Forest Whittaker way back in the day
15:32
Speaker 1: when he did Uh Jason's lyric. I had a little
15:35
Speaker 1: small role with far I'm just throwing a little credit back.
15:38
Speaker 1: And then I was fast fraid of the tap dancer,
15:43
Speaker 1: the crackhead tap dancers. So so I go a little
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Speaker 1: back back. But what I didn't know was that far
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Speaker 1: As Whitnaker hold a note. That's what I didn't though,
15:54
Speaker 1: I did not know that talk to us about you know,
15:57
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give away the story, but definitely
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Speaker 1: that that that that that moved me in a good way.
16:03
Speaker 1: The the the the special effects. You know, like I said,
16:06
Speaker 1: your boy, your boy was talking about this a movie movie.
16:09
Speaker 1: You know, when you see a Star Wars, that's you know,
16:13
Speaker 1: the special effects. That's a movie. That's that's not just
16:15
Speaker 1: a that's not like open range and you're riding on
16:17
Speaker 1: a horse. That's all he's saying. The special effects, the costume,
16:21
Speaker 1: the snow looked like snow. You know what I'm saying.
16:23
Speaker 1: The special effects look real, the singing was seamless, didn't
16:27
Speaker 1: look like they were lip sinking all that that. Nobody
16:30
Speaker 1: looked like that. They was out of sink. And all
16:32
Speaker 1: this was he That's all he was saying. It's the
16:34
Speaker 1: ultimate compliment. When you see something that's you know, it's special.
16:39
Speaker 1: You can't put a word on it. You know, professionally,
16:41
Speaker 1: you go, hey, man, whatever, you guys, whatever was invested
16:45
Speaker 1: in that movie. I saw it on the screen. I
16:47
Speaker 1: saw it in the storyline. I saw it in the edity,
16:50
Speaker 1: I saw it in the music. I saw in the
16:52
Speaker 1: in the in the in the you know, because every
16:53
Speaker 1: story has to have momentum, you know, and they had momentum,
16:57
Speaker 1: and they had reason to care that that that that's
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Speaker 1: beautiful man, that and so so. But you guys are
17:03
Speaker 1: the creators and I am the participant. What got you there?
17:07
Speaker 1: You know you said two years, but you know it's
17:09
Speaker 1: it's rewrites is sometimes questioning your decisions working with the
17:15
Speaker 1: studio in its case, Netflix, How how did that? How
17:18
Speaker 1: did that journey get you there? David? And well, well,
17:21
Speaker 1: for me, it's it's everything's attention to detail. Were talking
17:25
Speaker 1: about the visual effects, and you talked about the c
17:28
Speaker 1: g I character in the story book that the gears,
17:31
Speaker 1: that everything, the hair, the costume. You know when I
17:34
Speaker 1: when I would come to the studio with you, and
17:37
Speaker 1: if I was I remember one time I was about
17:40
Speaker 1: seven minutes later, we're going to break and I said, shot,
17:42
Speaker 1: I'm here and running a little bit. Ladies, I don't
17:44
Speaker 1: know what you missed it break brother here, Yeah, no,
17:48
Speaker 1: I understand, you'll get it next time. To the result,
17:50
Speaker 1: I got to sell tickets here. I understand that. I
17:52
Speaker 1: told you seven o'clock. We gotta business, we gotta file.
17:58
Speaker 1: But he let me know that that the detail in
18:02
Speaker 1: the level of knowing your worth, knowing your value, knowing
18:05
Speaker 1: what you're here to do, and making sure that you
18:08
Speaker 1: crossed every eye that you cross, every tea dot, every eye.
18:11
Speaker 1: That's who I went witnessed with you. When we're doing
18:14
Speaker 1: the place in l A. You would come sitting back
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Speaker 1: and that look here, brother, I like the scene. But
18:19
Speaker 1: now you can do blah blah blah blah blah blah
18:22
Speaker 1: and so but and so. What we took from from
18:26
Speaker 1: watching people like you build empires, build businesses detail and
18:33
Speaker 1: it's it's with this opportunity, with this budget, this landscape
18:39
Speaker 1: that Netflix gave us. I wasn't trying to just get
18:43
Speaker 1: in here and and and pop my collar and beat
18:46
Speaker 1: my chest about how big the budget was. You gave
18:49
Speaker 1: me ten dollars. Our goal was to make it look
18:51
Speaker 1: like a hundred dollars. It was a hundred dollars. Our
18:54
Speaker 1: goals and make it look like five hundred dollars. And
18:57
Speaker 1: so that's what that's what we did. We we we
19:00
Speaker 1: kept our nose to the grind. We didn't we didn't
19:03
Speaker 1: let up. And when it was time for the even
19:05
Speaker 1: the end credit so to see, well, let's let's do
19:07
Speaker 1: some name the movies. They don't want to people, uh
19:13
Speaker 1: turn off, like okay, y'alla stated to the end of
19:17
Speaker 1: the model. And I was like, oh, they do it
19:19
Speaker 1: sucking else and they and so and so we were
19:23
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have great partners and Netflix, great partners,
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20:06
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20:14
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20:22
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20:39
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20:58
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21:04
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21:07
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21:28
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22:41
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22:44
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22:47
Speaker 1: So so when it started trending, Okay, how is the
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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, David, come on, I go the
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23:55
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23:59
Speaker 1: I haven't talked too. And I can't tell you how long, man,
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Speaker 1: it is, just it's a it is. It is still
24:05
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24:09
Speaker 1: And I ain't never going back. I know, I tell
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24:15
Speaker 1: That's why I knew, man, Like I said, you know,
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24:24
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24:27
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24:32
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24:35
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24:41
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24:47
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25:21
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Speaker 1: So it's it's been kind of a mixed bag. I
38:52
Speaker 1: talked to some people they're doing great, like Gangbusters, and
38:56
Speaker 1: then other people who are literally just holding on by
38:58
Speaker 1: a thread. And I think that's kind of the reality
39:00
Speaker 1: across this country. That's from a business, very challenging, very challenging.
39:04
Speaker 1: Now from a personal statement, I gave me my little
39:07
Speaker 1: COVID and eighteen trying to adapt to the new norm
39:09
Speaker 1: back then. And I'm a lot more comfortable now. And
39:12
Speaker 1: actually have flown on the airplane one time and massed
39:15
Speaker 1: down and I said, in that chair and I scrubbed
39:17
Speaker 1: it down, my little parral. I'm telling you you two,
39:20
Speaker 1: I was a may I was doing made service on
39:22
Speaker 1: my seat. Let's put it, the teammates made service. How
39:25
Speaker 1: was it for you personally? You talked about the business,
39:27
Speaker 1: How was it personally? Good thing? So I, personally, I
39:31
Speaker 1: was going up. This is March. So I had started
39:34
Speaker 1: this really intense workout plan. I had, you know, lots
39:37
Speaker 1: of plans for the year in terms of my career.
39:40
Speaker 1: One of my personal goals, you know, was to get
39:42
Speaker 1: in the best shape of my life. And I was
39:44
Speaker 1: there and then when this all hit, uh, I said, well,
39:47
Speaker 1: you know, it's just gonna be gonna be locked down
39:48
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, so I don't have to
39:50
Speaker 1: worry about continuing this workout. I don't have to worry
39:52
Speaker 1: about continuing this really healthy eating, I think, And I
39:56
Speaker 1: didn't really even realize that I slid into kind of
39:58
Speaker 1: a state of depression after it went on for more
40:01
Speaker 1: than two or three or four weeks. I gained probably
40:04
Speaker 1: that COVID fifteen pounds that a lot of people. I
40:07
Speaker 1: found myself binging. I I'm not a big TV person.
40:11
Speaker 1: I've watched Queen of the South bene through it on Netflix,
40:15
Speaker 1: Ozark Higher Key one night, and this is when I
40:21
Speaker 1: knew I was at an all time low. I was
40:23
Speaker 1: up five in the morning beinging on Ozar. My dinner
40:26
Speaker 1: that night had been a bag of potato chips and
40:29
Speaker 1: several glasses of wine, and you know, something then hit
40:33
Speaker 1: me that, Okay, this is not temporary. This is gonna
40:37
Speaker 1: be here for a while. And you can't you know,
40:40
Speaker 1: drink your way through it with wine. You can't eat
40:42
Speaker 1: potato chips from dinner, you can't watch you know, every
40:45
Speaker 1: you know series on Netflix. You've got to figure out
40:48
Speaker 1: a way to get back to something that looks normal
40:51
Speaker 1: for you. So I dropped the fifteen pounds. I stopped
40:55
Speaker 1: eating the potato chips. I haven't had a drinking like
40:57
Speaker 1: five months. Not because it's a I just I'm just
41:02
Speaker 1: trying to just be super healthy. Got back to some projects.
41:05
Speaker 1: Started you know, my uh weekly try weekly show on Facebook.
41:10
Speaker 1: I'm working on a new book project, did a bunch
41:13
Speaker 1: of auditions for some new other you know, TV broadcast projects,
41:17
Speaker 1: and just have been trying to say how do you
41:19
Speaker 1: live with COVID and did not control you, but you
41:23
Speaker 1: take control of your life. And I feel like I'm
41:25
Speaker 1: kind of there there, but I'm feeling better, but I was.
41:30
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was upset because I was
41:33
Speaker 1: prepared for the two or three weeks which they told
41:35
Speaker 1: us originally the lockdown was going to be, and then
41:37
Speaker 1: as it went from March to April to May, by
41:40
Speaker 1: then I was like, Okay, this is some b S.
41:41
Speaker 1: I might really fatigued by it. And you know, I
41:45
Speaker 1: was just kind of rolling through the motions. I had
41:47
Speaker 1: a low point when I went to visit a friend
41:49
Speaker 1: and some pajama pants that was pajamas. Yeah, what's so?
42:00
Speaker 1: You know when you're walking out the house, getting in
42:01
Speaker 1: the car, driving your pajamas. Maybe it's time like pack
42:05
Speaker 1: yourself on the shelter and say, get it together, girlfriend,
42:09
Speaker 1: get it together. All those fantastic poses and images we
42:13
Speaker 1: see on your Instagram account. Now here's the thought process
42:16
Speaker 1: when you talk about just uh, you know myself personally,
42:20
Speaker 1: I gained ten pounds, okay, and I went from like
42:24
Speaker 1: eating one and a half meals a day. I was
42:26
Speaker 1: eating breakfast lunch and then breakfast lunch. And then my
42:29
Speaker 1: wife was saying, you want to yes, I want breakfast, Yes,
42:32
Speaker 1: I want lunch because we were locked down, and now
42:34
Speaker 1: of a suddenly I've done so much do dila just
42:36
Speaker 1: a losing like twenty five pounds Suddenly I was at
42:39
Speaker 1: two hundred and went whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
42:42
Speaker 1: Something is not normal here. You don't need breakfast, but
42:46
Speaker 1: you're eating it and you're not even going out to
42:48
Speaker 1: be able to burn it off because I was just usually,
42:52
Speaker 1: you know, get up before I'm out of the house,
42:54
Speaker 1: is sick. So physically I was moving. I was just
42:57
Speaker 1: getting up and just staying and eating and so so
43:00
Speaker 1: that translated into weight games. So know that you are
43:03
Speaker 1: you had a lot of individuals out there in America
43:06
Speaker 1: joining you in that weight game club because we're sitting down,
43:09
Speaker 1: Like you said, our lifestyles. You know me, I'm like
43:11
Speaker 1: super active, I'm out, I'm always doing something. And like
43:14
Speaker 1: I said, I worked out a lot. The gyms were closed,
43:17
Speaker 1: you know, so you needed that discipline to get up
43:19
Speaker 1: and do it outside on your own. And I just
43:22
Speaker 1: think psychologically was so new, like like what's going on
43:25
Speaker 1: and you're watching this these deaths. You know, you're just
43:28
Speaker 1: watching the numbers climb and watching the death You're talking
43:31
Speaker 1: to friends who are you know, have the virus, and
43:34
Speaker 1: it was just a lot emotionally, I think for all
43:36
Speaker 1: of us as Americans. That's why the food was comforted
43:39
Speaker 1: right there and Netflix was Jump. You said, Tiger King.
43:44
Speaker 1: I had to relate to you. I was the Tiger
43:46
Speaker 1: kid yet so from I would take some I saw
43:50
Speaker 1: when it came out. I was like, to everybody know,
43:52
Speaker 1: I didn't hear about that kick when it hit the stands.
43:55
Speaker 1: I was right there and viewing it from Jump and
43:57
Speaker 1: then it explode it because that was one of the
43:59
Speaker 1: most amazing, uh Doctor Docu soap oppers I've ever realized
44:04
Speaker 1: soap oppers I've ever seen in my life. But when
44:06
Speaker 1: do you think all of us would have been watching
44:08
Speaker 1: Tiger King but for the pandemic. Oh but you know
44:12
Speaker 1: it's like I don't think so, but I think that
44:14
Speaker 1: it still would have jumped out there strong, because that's
44:16
Speaker 1: that was some mess. That was something that was some
44:19
Speaker 1: high faluting mess that people are still look she wound
44:21
Speaker 1: up on Dancing with the Stars. Okay, so that's how
44:27
Speaker 1: another barfriend her husband that just got picked up on
44:32
Speaker 1: d U. I charged the other guy who had like
44:34
Speaker 1: the harem. You know, I think he got closed down.
44:38
Speaker 1: This is always it just keeps rolling and rolling, the rolling,
44:40
Speaker 1: the rolling. But but you we lived in life, or
44:43
Speaker 1: you know, our relationship is always tied to your authenticity
44:46
Speaker 1: and your auticy authenticity is always tied to journalism, your
44:49
Speaker 1: legal background and the special report and the reason I
44:53
Speaker 1: really wanted to bring you on the show about that
44:55
Speaker 1: because it's your voice that we need in this in
44:58
Speaker 1: this media and that era from a standpoint of who
45:02
Speaker 1: you are and what you bring to the table. How
45:04
Speaker 1: did the special report start and give us some background
45:07
Speaker 1: on how people are reacting to it. No, that's a
45:10
Speaker 1: great question. So what happened was that, like I said,
45:12
Speaker 1: I had that inside information that l A was about
45:14
Speaker 1: to have a lockdown order, so on like the second
45:17
Speaker 1: Friday in March, right before that order was going into effect.
45:22
Speaker 1: That next weekend, I said, I want to go live
45:23
Speaker 1: on Facebook and just talk to people that I knew.
45:26
Speaker 1: You know, I had a bunch of hundred thousand plus
45:28
Speaker 1: followers on Facebook and a big social media platform, and
45:31
Speaker 1: everybody was, you know, nervous. We didn't know what was coming.
45:36
Speaker 1: And because I had this inside information, I said, I'm
45:38
Speaker 1: gonna go on and just let people know this kind
45:41
Speaker 1: of calm their nerves, like this is okay, you know,
45:44
Speaker 1: get ready, it's coming. It doesn't mean you can't go
45:47
Speaker 1: to the grocery store, doesn't mean you can't go to
45:49
Speaker 1: your doctor's offices. And just trying to you know, cushion
45:52
Speaker 1: the blow, so to speak, for people. And the response
45:55
Speaker 1: was so positive that one time, and after about an hour,
45:59
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't enough time. So I said, don't worry,
46:01
Speaker 1: I'll come back on Monday and we'll continue this conversation.
46:04
Speaker 1: Because people were posting comments and we were going back
46:06
Speaker 1: and forth, and so I went back that Monday, uh
46:10
Speaker 1: and continued the conversation and people were saying Okay, are
46:14
Speaker 1: you coming back? And it was really because people say,
46:16
Speaker 1: can we tune in again? And I just said, you
46:19
Speaker 1: know what, right now, for the next again, two weeks,
46:22
Speaker 1: I'll show up every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and I'll
46:25
Speaker 1: tell you what I know from my friends that work
46:27
Speaker 1: at the county, my friends that worked for the City
46:29
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, you know, my friends that work in
46:32
Speaker 1: federal government. And I thought it was gonna be two weeks.
46:34
Speaker 1: Let me just telling people, you know, this inside information
46:37
Speaker 1: that I had gotten from all of these you know,
46:39
Speaker 1: high level elected officials, and that two weeks went to
46:42
Speaker 1: three weeks, and that three weeks went to four weeks,
46:44
Speaker 1: and here we are. We just celebrated one hundred shows.
46:46
Speaker 1: So we're like on our hundred and six shows. Because
46:50
Speaker 1: we went from the COVID crisis and that just kind
46:53
Speaker 1: of dovetail right into what was happening in the upcoming election,
46:59
Speaker 1: went from COVID it to George Lloyd because right there
47:02
Speaker 1: there you go the summer. We went from from we
47:05
Speaker 1: went for COVID to the summer the summer protests, the
47:10
Speaker 1: global protests that were happening all over the world. And
47:13
Speaker 1: so I was reporting on CNN and reporting on the
47:16
Speaker 1: special Report, talking to you know, the activists on the street,
47:19
Speaker 1: talking to uh, you know, law enforcement experts and legal experts,
47:24
Speaker 1: and again just trying to help people understand what was happening.
47:27
Speaker 1: And what I try to do with the special Report, Michelle,
47:29
Speaker 1: you know, I've worked with all of these national experts
47:32
Speaker 1: you know on CNN and different other networks, is to
47:35
Speaker 1: go through my contact list and say, hey, I know
47:38
Speaker 1: you on CNN, MSNBC, but I need you to come
47:40
Speaker 1: over here and talk to real people. And then I
47:43
Speaker 1: pair those national experts up with real people. So you know,
47:47
Speaker 1: it's about one of the questions, one of the issues
47:50
Speaker 1: that people who don't have access to these folks, and
47:53
Speaker 1: you know, they're not able to pick up the phone
47:54
Speaker 1: and call them. So it was really trying to bring
47:57
Speaker 1: those two elements together because again, people, you know, they
48:00
Speaker 1: turn on the news, they may get a three second
48:02
Speaker 1: sound bite, right, you know, and they're not getting to
48:05
Speaker 1: to post a comment and ask a question or to
48:08
Speaker 1: engage with that expert. So the whole premise of the
48:11
Speaker 1: show is giving real people that opportunity to have, you know,
48:15
Speaker 1: access to the nation's top experts on these tough issues,
48:18
Speaker 1: whether it's race, you know, like the George Floyd issue,
48:20
Speaker 1: whether it's public health with COVID, whether it was the election,
48:24
Speaker 1: and you know, the election from George Floyd, we went
48:27
Speaker 1: right into that, and all these issues have just gotta
48:30
Speaker 1: merge together, right, so we find ourselves and they've never
48:33
Speaker 1: had a defining moment of what was going on because
48:36
Speaker 1: it was all done under the President of Trump leadership.
48:39
Speaker 1: You know, the COVID, the denial, the uh you know,
48:43
Speaker 1: you can inject you know, uh poison into your blood system,
48:48
Speaker 1: You'll be all right, you know, you can. Don't have
48:50
Speaker 1: to wear a mask. And when you got to the
48:52
Speaker 1: George Floyd, when you got to lead that up into
48:54
Speaker 1: the debate, when you told the proud proud boys to
48:57
Speaker 1: stand back and stand down. Yeah, you know, ain't boy
49:00
Speaker 1: stand out? They put that on T shirts and then
49:03
Speaker 1: you but let's talk about race, because I really was
49:06
Speaker 1: you know, I have seen your your show and that
49:09
Speaker 1: the articulation and the race. I always talked to an
49:12
Speaker 1: individual like that because you didn't know, you know, from
49:14
Speaker 1: illegal this is your history of CNN, the racial makeup
49:19
Speaker 1: of the protests. Did that surprised you because we know
49:22
Speaker 1: it was a black issue, but it turned out to
49:24
Speaker 1: be more than a black response. You know, it didn't
49:27
Speaker 1: surprise me because we started to see some of that
49:30
Speaker 1: you know, coalition forming even after you know, trade by
49:34
Speaker 1: Martin's murder in Florida, after Mike Brown's murder in St. Louis,
49:38
Speaker 1: or Ferguson the Missouri So we had started to see
49:41
Speaker 1: justice allies as we call them, starting to take a
49:44
Speaker 1: more active role in the protests. I think with George
49:47
Speaker 1: Floyd and the summer, you know that the May June
49:49
Speaker 1: julyf period where the protests were at their biggest, you know,
49:52
Speaker 1: we saw the largest numbers, the number of non African
49:56
Speaker 1: Americans involved, not just locally in you know, Los Angeles,
50:00
Speaker 1: just in Georgia or New York, but literally across the
50:02
Speaker 1: globe probably hit an all time high. And there was
50:06
Speaker 1: polling cake that was out during that period that said,
50:08
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter for the first time was accepted
50:12
Speaker 1: by like over sevent of Americans that had never had
50:15
Speaker 1: such high acceptance levels. And I think George Floyd, you know,
50:19
Speaker 1: hit people in a different way. We've watched you know,
50:22
Speaker 1: people get shot in the back by police. We've watched
50:26
Speaker 1: such brutality, but there was something about that eight minute,
50:30
Speaker 1: you know, forty six second video, the smug you know,
50:34
Speaker 1: look on that cop space. The others standing around who
50:39
Speaker 1: you know, did absolutely nothing that I think that touched
50:41
Speaker 1: people in a different way and that's what propelled those
50:45
Speaker 1: huge numbers of people that we saw on the street.
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Speaker 1: I think one of the things was they've always had
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52:31
Speaker 1: and adjusted his knee. That was the part that really
52:33
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52:36
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52:39
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52:41
Speaker 1: so you're right in the midst of all lists of evil.
52:44
Speaker 1: You know, you know, your your your your show that
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52:54
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52:58
Speaker 1: And I think it was that kind of that moment
53:00
Speaker 1: they found me. Uh. And you know who. I spent
53:02
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking to your shado over the
53:04
Speaker 1: last three or four months of white women in suburbs,
53:08
Speaker 1: you know, because white women in suburbs, we saw them
53:11
Speaker 1: out at the protests. We saw moms across this country
53:15
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53:17
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen them before. Uh. And then we saw
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53:26
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53:38
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53:47
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Speaker 1: But white woman in the suburbs, you know, voted for
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Speaker 1: to win in some key cridervols. Your states always hit
55:42
Speaker 1: very hard to governor notion by Donald Trump. You know,
55:46
Speaker 1: I just read a message. I believe that you know,
55:49
Speaker 1: dining indoor and outdoor dining is being banned. Okay, you
55:55
Speaker 1: live there, what is the atmosphere? And I'll go back
55:59
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll remember when Kobe viron Bryant died
56:02
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately died whatever. That was just February this year.
56:07
Speaker 1: And I remember I came into l A and you know,
56:09
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56:12
Speaker 1: like a ghost town emotionally, you know. And then then
56:16
Speaker 1: this then this COVID hit and shut the city down,
56:19
Speaker 1: and then you know, uh, the amusement parks can't even reopen.
56:24
Speaker 1: And I was just there like two I came in
56:26
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56:30
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56:33
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56:38
Speaker 1: you know they're they're kind of like outdoors anyway, so
56:40
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Speaker 1: you know, you cannot eat indoor outdoor? How does in
56:48
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56:52
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Now? We got to be able
56:54
Speaker 1: to live? What what is too much? Too much? Here's
56:58
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57:01
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57:05
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57:08
Speaker 1: of this pandemic. Rather than Trump coming out being honest
57:11
Speaker 1: with the people, enacting uh, coming up with a national
57:14
Speaker 1: strategy and enacting that national strategy. He hid it from
57:18
Speaker 1: the people, He died about it. They kept moving the
57:21
Speaker 1: goal post. Uh. He failed to, you know, come up
57:24
Speaker 1: with a national strategy. He politicized something that simple was
57:27
Speaker 1: wearing a mask and socially distancing. And so now people
57:31
Speaker 1: are fatigued, they're fed up with it. You're right, we're
57:33
Speaker 1: about to go into another lockdown where you can only
57:36
Speaker 1: you can't dine outside. You'll only be able to do
57:38
Speaker 1: take out and pick up from restaurants. Restaurants are barely
57:42
Speaker 1: holding on. They're holding on by a thread. The money
57:45
Speaker 1: that was allocated, you know, from the Cares Act in
57:48
Speaker 1: the summer, all that money's gone basically, so restaurants are
57:52
Speaker 1: you know, many of them won't survive this shutdown. They
57:55
Speaker 1: won't come back. The restaurant industry is being forever change.
57:59
Speaker 1: But here the deal. Because we botched it, we now
58:03
Speaker 1: all have to pay a price. And you and I
58:05
Speaker 1: are in a social contract. I can't do you know,
58:08
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do anything that harms you. You shouldn't do
58:10
Speaker 1: anything that harms me. As much as I hate this,
58:13
Speaker 1: as much as everyone hates it, this is what we
58:16
Speaker 1: have at this moment. We don't have the vaccine. We
58:20
Speaker 1: don't have an ability to slow the spread other than
58:24
Speaker 1: to take some kind of public health measures. And the
58:26
Speaker 1: public health experts are saying, closing the restaurants because that's
58:30
Speaker 1: where this public spread happens is what we have available
58:33
Speaker 1: to us. Uh. It stinks. People are upset about it.
58:36
Speaker 1: There were protests outside of the mayor's house. They have
58:39
Speaker 1: been protests in the streets. People feel like their rights
58:42
Speaker 1: are being infringed upon. But what I try to get
58:44
Speaker 1: people to understand is, look, the government already is in
58:48
Speaker 1: our lives. Where a seatbelt right, that's the government. Don't
58:52
Speaker 1: go past sixty five on the freeway, that's the government.
58:56
Speaker 1: You can't drink until you're twenty one in most states,
58:59
Speaker 1: that's the govern a minute, you can't vote until your eighteen,
59:02
Speaker 1: that's the government. So this notion that wearing a mask
59:05
Speaker 1: and socially distances puts the government in our lives in
59:08
Speaker 1: an intrusive way, that's just false. You know, government is
59:12
Speaker 1: already in our lives. And when you look at those
59:15
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand people we've lost their lives.
59:18
Speaker 1: I say this is a small price to pay, although
59:21
Speaker 1: it's difficult, and I want to minimize the pain that
59:24
Speaker 1: people are feeling. The business owner someone who has you know,
59:27
Speaker 1: severe isolation and depression. But if we don't do something,
59:31
Speaker 1: or we will, will you know, are we willing to
59:33
Speaker 1: as a country to say five thousand people dead? Twenty
59:36
Speaker 1: million people in fact? It and until Biden and Harris
59:40
Speaker 1: get into office and get the scientists back in charge,
59:44
Speaker 1: we're all going to have to make tremendous sacrifices. And
59:47
Speaker 1: I just encourage people to look at it that way.
59:49
Speaker 1: The light is at the end of this tunnel. It's
59:52
Speaker 1: coming right now, is being blocked by Donald Trump. So
59:56
Speaker 1: if you can get him a slide left or right,
59:57
Speaker 1: we can see that light. Are you really interesting when
59:59
Speaker 1: you were saying that about you know, speed limits and
1:00:02
Speaker 1: because some people could say, you know, it's infringing them
1:00:05
Speaker 1: our rights because I never would drive past sixty five,
1:00:08
Speaker 1: you know, I never drive past fifty five. I drive
1:00:11
Speaker 1: accordingly in school zonns. While you why are you why
1:00:13
Speaker 1: are you forcing me to live like this? And that's
1:00:16
Speaker 1: very true. What you're saying is that look, there's there's
1:00:19
Speaker 1: there's a right and a wrong in life, you know,
1:00:21
Speaker 1: and we all put rules in place to protect the masses,
1:00:25
Speaker 1: not always saying the individuals you can live right, Like,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't own a gun, so I'm
1:00:29
Speaker 1: not more likely I'm not gonna shoot anybody in my lifetime.
1:00:32
Speaker 1: But there are people who do own guns, and you
1:00:33
Speaker 1: have to have gun loss to stop just shoot anybody
1:00:36
Speaker 1: when they feel like it. But you know, when you
1:00:38
Speaker 1: when you think about all the things that you're doing
1:00:40
Speaker 1: a rever and this special report, and and and being
1:00:43
Speaker 1: able to launch and you're saying congratulations over there one
1:00:45
Speaker 1: hundred episodes if you've taped so far, what's just the
1:00:48
Speaker 1: future of this opportunity that you're doing on Facebook. Well,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: you know, I hope that it continues to grow. We
1:00:54
Speaker 1: we've been growing, the audience we've been the guests have
1:00:57
Speaker 1: just been phenomenal. I've been blowing away myself by some
1:01:01
Speaker 1: of not just the experts, because, like I said, a
1:01:03
Speaker 1: lot of contacts with those, but some of the real people.
1:01:06
Speaker 1: I've had the most amazing conversation with Oscar Grant's mother,
1:01:10
Speaker 1: Wanda Grant. Uh. She you know, her struggle with her son, Oscar,
1:01:15
Speaker 1: who was killed by uh, you know, transit police. Uh
1:01:18
Speaker 1: in Northern California turned into that big movie, you know,
1:01:21
Speaker 1: Fruitville Station with Michael B. Jordan's Sandrew Bland's sister, you know,
1:01:28
Speaker 1: who talked about what that tragedy was like for her
1:01:31
Speaker 1: family and going through such a public funeral and having
1:01:36
Speaker 1: to grieve your sister in such a public way. Uh.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: There's like a guy named Keith Grant who's been on
1:01:40
Speaker 1: my show a couple of times. He lost his father
1:01:43
Speaker 1: and his grandfather on the same day from COVID, and
1:01:46
Speaker 1: he learned, you know, in that short period of time
1:01:49
Speaker 1: his mother had COVID and several of his brothers and
1:01:52
Speaker 1: sisters including him. So, you know, families like that just
1:01:56
Speaker 1: ravaged by COVID. One of the state legislators in Chikan
1:02:00
Speaker 1: who was in the Michigan State House when those armed
1:02:03
Speaker 1: militia came and threatened you know, the state legislators. So
1:02:08
Speaker 1: just having a chance to sit down and talk to
1:02:10
Speaker 1: those people and learn about their experiences has just been
1:02:14
Speaker 1: an amazing way for me to manage my own mental
1:02:17
Speaker 1: health issues during this period. So I just want to
1:02:20
Speaker 1: keep bringing those stories, you know, I just want to
1:02:22
Speaker 1: keep connecting with real people like that and giving them
1:02:25
Speaker 1: an opportunity to share their story. Some of the thank
1:02:28
Speaker 1: you notes I get from guests again and even my experts,
1:02:32
Speaker 1: you know, because the experts go on national television and
1:02:34
Speaker 1: local television and they get two minutes to talk, you know,
1:02:37
Speaker 1: but they come on a specially when they do a
1:02:39
Speaker 1: fifteen minute interview where they really get to explain themselves,
1:02:43
Speaker 1: uh and answer questions and again talk to real people.
1:02:47
Speaker 1: And one of the big issues now that I'm so
1:02:49
Speaker 1: focused on laser focused on, is the vaccine. Seventy percent
1:02:53
Speaker 1: of the African Americans say they won't take the vaccine.
1:02:56
Speaker 1: And unless we have you know, well over fifty percent
1:02:59
Speaker 1: of the may Orkans who take it, it won't be effective.
1:03:03
Speaker 1: And there's been not nearly enough a conversation is happening
1:03:06
Speaker 1: in the black community with experts, with influencers like you,
1:03:10
Speaker 1: with celebrities about the vaccine. So we just did a
1:03:14
Speaker 1: show this week. We've done multiple shows on the vaccine,
1:03:17
Speaker 1: and that's an area where you know, I'm dedicated to, uh,
1:03:20
Speaker 1: you know, helping people understand what the safety issues are,
1:03:24
Speaker 1: but hopefully helping people feel more comfortable once the data
1:03:28
Speaker 1: is out, once the research has been you know, vetted
1:03:31
Speaker 1: upwards and backwards, and left wards and right from people
1:03:34
Speaker 1: we trust, you know, people we trust getting people to
1:03:38
Speaker 1: understand how important it's going to be if we ever
1:03:40
Speaker 1: want to get back to anything that looks like normal.
1:03:43
Speaker 1: And I don't even know what the new normal will
1:03:44
Speaker 1: look like, but if we want to get you know,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: back to restaurants, back to movie theaters, you know that's
1:03:49
Speaker 1: movie theaters decimated, We're gonna have to, you know, increase
1:03:53
Speaker 1: the number of people in this country who are willing
1:03:55
Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, and black people in particular. Let's talk
1:03:58
Speaker 1: about Butterfly Health. You know Next Cube maul and Evans.
1:04:02
Speaker 1: I interviewed him on the show. So when I started
1:04:04
Speaker 1: pop up on your your just my Malan loves a
1:04:07
Speaker 1: Stanfford University. Let's talk about it. He's a he's a
1:04:12
Speaker 1: CEO of Next Cube when they go out there and
1:04:14
Speaker 1: they fund tech and health oriented platforms, and that's what
1:04:18
Speaker 1: Butterfly Health is a is a health oriented platform. Talk
1:04:21
Speaker 1: about how that relationship came together and exactly what is
1:04:24
Speaker 1: Butterfly Health. So you know Roshaun from knowing me. I'm
1:04:28
Speaker 1: a serial entrepreneur, so you know I can't sit down
1:04:31
Speaker 1: without you know, starting something new. So people ask me,
1:04:35
Speaker 1: what did I do you know in the quarantine, I've
1:04:38
Speaker 1: written a new book, I started a digital talk show
1:04:41
Speaker 1: and I started we're talking about butterfly health with my brother.
1:04:44
Speaker 1: My brother UH is a tech entrepreneur. He's had two
1:04:48
Speaker 1: successful exits from tech companies. And I had this idea
1:04:51
Speaker 1: because you know, the work I do around autism and
1:04:54
Speaker 1: special needs, I come into contact with so many caregivers
1:04:57
Speaker 1: and the issue of mental health. I really started thinking
1:04:59
Speaker 1: about this last year at the end of last year
1:05:02
Speaker 1: before COVID UH and just how impacted the families I
1:05:05
Speaker 1: dealt with were with mental health issues. And I called
1:05:09
Speaker 1: my brother and I said, hey, look, I got this idea.
1:05:11
Speaker 1: I said, can I send you this nondisclosure agreement before
1:05:14
Speaker 1: I tell you? Know? You didn't he said, I won't
1:05:20
Speaker 1: tell you what. He said yes. After a few choice words,
1:05:27
Speaker 1: I got him to agree that I could send him
1:05:29
Speaker 1: this sense and he would advise me on it talking
1:05:34
Speaker 1: about it, and he gave me a sense about you
1:05:37
Speaker 1: know why I needed someone like him because despite all
1:05:40
Speaker 1: of my himself to d A and so, he UH
1:05:47
Speaker 1: told me that, you know, for a percentage of my company,
1:05:51
Speaker 1: he would UH come in as a co founder and
1:05:55
Speaker 1: be the CEO. So that's what brought the brother's sister
1:05:58
Speaker 1: team together. But uh, you know, it's it's a digital
1:06:02
Speaker 1: therapeutic application available on iOS and Android, and it's targeted
1:06:08
Speaker 1: to the medicaid population. We grew up poor, you know
1:06:11
Speaker 1: my story North sawls on surviving on food stamps on
1:06:14
Speaker 1: medicaid ourselves. So we wanted to deliver and develop a
1:06:19
Speaker 1: product targeted specifically for that market place. And that's what
1:06:22
Speaker 1: Butterfly doesn't. And Next Queue, Uh, they invest in early
1:06:25
Speaker 1: start up healthcare companies and uh, one of our advisors
1:06:30
Speaker 1: referred us to Marlin and Next Cube and they, you know,
1:06:33
Speaker 1: we went through application process and so they now have
1:06:36
Speaker 1: invested in the company. We went through an accelerated program
1:06:39
Speaker 1: with them. We've gotten investments from start Up Health, We've
1:06:42
Speaker 1: gotten investments from investment fund in Tennessee called Jumpstart Foundery,
1:06:48
Speaker 1: and so we are building the company. We're in conversations
1:06:51
Speaker 1: with major health plans as well as health systems like
1:06:55
Speaker 1: Kaiser about rowing the platform out at the beginning of
1:06:58
Speaker 1: next year. All of these companies are clamoring for a
1:07:02
Speaker 1: solution to address health equity issues, to address you know,
1:07:06
Speaker 1: underserved populations. So from a timing standpoint, You've got a
1:07:10
Speaker 1: tsunami and mental health issues happening because of COVID and
1:07:12
Speaker 1: the social unrest, and you have health companies who said
1:07:17
Speaker 1: we are committed to diversity and inclusion in ways you
1:07:21
Speaker 1: know perhaps they hadn't been in the past. So you
1:07:23
Speaker 1: have those two things colliding creating some tremendous opportunities for
1:07:27
Speaker 1: us to one raise a lot of capital for Butterfly
1:07:30
Speaker 1: and then to roll it out and to have an
1:07:32
Speaker 1: impact on the lives of people who desperately needed. So
1:07:36
Speaker 1: super excited about that. Well, it's been thirty minutes of
1:07:40
Speaker 1: a good conversation with a friend. Uh, we've know this.
1:07:44
Speaker 1: I do a lot of national shows or Black News
1:07:47
Speaker 1: Channel has me on like once am U talking about
1:07:49
Speaker 1: the COVID and the financial situation and how Black America
1:07:53
Speaker 1: has to deal with the crisis that's not being funded
1:07:56
Speaker 1: properly by our Democrats or Republicans. So if you ever
1:07:59
Speaker 1: want me on your show, I'd love to come on
1:08:01
Speaker 1: your show. I watched it. Uh, you're such a highly
1:08:03
Speaker 1: respect yourself. Will work out the details work. I will
1:08:07
Speaker 1: come over there strictly talking about the financial side and
1:08:10
Speaker 1: the budgets and what's not happening and why they won't
1:08:13
Speaker 1: pass this bill, and they need to stop trying to
1:08:16
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get these foncations on dollars a week.
1:08:18
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you that right now, it's not
1:08:20
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But if they can't, they should be giving
1:08:22
Speaker 1: them something because there's some big tax bills that are
1:08:24
Speaker 1: gonna be coming this way. Twelve thirty one menth January
1:08:27
Speaker 1: is gonna really cripple not only America, because especially in
1:08:30
Speaker 1: the black community, because we are always the hardest hit
1:08:32
Speaker 1: as we're being the hardest hit by COVID. But I
1:08:34
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1:08:35
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1:08:53
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1:08:56
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1:08:59
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1:09:01
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1:09:12
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1:09:14
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1:09:17
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1:09:19
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1:09:24
Speaker 1: next guest is as a survivor, is a trooper as
1:09:29
Speaker 1: as as they say has a sultry voice? Is what
1:09:32
Speaker 1: has a voice that I don't have? By the way,
1:09:34
Speaker 1: my next guest is Will Downing with a creer expanded
1:09:36
Speaker 1: thirty two years in the music business and twenty three
1:09:39
Speaker 1: albums to his credit. The Prince of Sophisticated Soul has
1:09:42
Speaker 1: a repertoire that consists of signature interpretations of R and
1:09:45
Speaker 1: B classics life I go crazy wishing on their star
1:09:49
Speaker 1: and I try with original hits a million ways, Sorry,
1:09:53
Speaker 1: I and the show stopping duet with Rachel Farrell. Nothing
1:09:56
Speaker 1: has ever felt like this. Will is discussing his release
1:09:59
Speaker 1: of his this music project, So Many Good Die Young,
1:10:03
Speaker 1: a moving in powerful tribute song and video, as well
1:10:06
Speaker 1: as current events such as being an artist in the pandemic,
1:10:09
Speaker 1: coping with work stoppage, hosting this popular weekly radio show
1:10:13
Speaker 1: to wind down, Please Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I've
1:10:16
Speaker 1: seen him many times on stage in Houston, Texas at
1:10:19
Speaker 1: the Arena Theater, my man, will Donny, How you doing
1:10:24
Speaker 1: pretty good? My friend? Pretty good? I mentioned that, I
1:10:27
Speaker 1: mentioned I threw back some history on you the Houston, Texas.
1:10:30
Speaker 1: That's why I'm born and raised. Many times I've seen
1:10:33
Speaker 1: you in concert at the Arena Theater. Tell everybody what
1:10:36
Speaker 1: the arena theater is and some of the complications that
1:10:38
Speaker 1: it presents for a performer like you. Well, uh, first
1:10:44
Speaker 1: and foremost good to see you. I always loved playing
1:10:47
Speaker 1: in the Houston area, and in Houston, I mean I
1:10:50
Speaker 1: think I started my first show there was that like Rockefellers. Yeah, wow, forging,
1:10:56
Speaker 1: I know exactly, Oh yeah, I just looked this way. Yeah,
1:11:00
Speaker 1: my mind sort of works a little bit. I know exactly.
1:11:04
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah. Yeah. But the Arena Theater, for
1:11:08
Speaker 1: those who don't know, it's a theater in the Round.
1:11:10
Speaker 1: It's one of the few that still exists in the
1:11:11
Speaker 1: in the country. Uh, there's one in New York, and
1:11:14
Speaker 1: I think maybe the Arena might be the only. There's
1:11:16
Speaker 1: another one and and Arizona. But what I was gonna
1:11:21
Speaker 1: say is a theater. It's a it's a stage that rotates,
1:11:24
Speaker 1: so it rotates very slowly, so when you're performing, it's like, oh,
1:11:27
Speaker 1: there's that lady. Is that lady again? Is that So
1:11:32
Speaker 1: it's a rotating stage about three people. Yeah, yeah, and
1:11:37
Speaker 1: you have to entertain because basically you have to kind
1:11:40
Speaker 1: of cater to everyone. It's not like you're looking at them,
1:11:43
Speaker 1: you know, head on. It's like you gotta turn around
1:11:45
Speaker 1: and just look this way, to look this way and
1:11:47
Speaker 1: try to feel make everyone engage. So it's it's a
1:11:49
Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept, but if you're a good entertainer, Uh,
1:11:54
Speaker 1: it's it's a perfect you know setting, absolutely well. You
1:11:56
Speaker 1: know when we're talking about your career and that being
1:11:59
Speaker 1: a singer and that you in the time, I don't
1:12:01
Speaker 1: know what you consider the times we're living in right
1:12:04
Speaker 1: now with the pandemic and with the social unrest that's
1:12:07
Speaker 1: going about. Because I want to get to your song
1:12:09
Speaker 1: so many Good Die Young and includes some social unrest
1:12:12
Speaker 1: conversation in that in that tremendous song, where is it
1:12:15
Speaker 1: as an artist? Emotionally? Where are you at right now?
1:12:18
Speaker 1: Will Downy? Well, you know what I think that as artists,
1:12:23
Speaker 1: and I can speak for some of my other artists
1:12:25
Speaker 1: friends because we talk often. It's a roller coaster, Ryan,
1:12:29
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, we were riding high for
1:12:31
Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, you know, work was plentiful,
1:12:34
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden in March, this thing
1:12:37
Speaker 1: just sort of hit and most of us were kind
1:12:39
Speaker 1: of thinking like, oh, you know, we'll be out of
1:12:41
Speaker 1: work for maybe a month or so, you know, and
1:12:43
Speaker 1: then we'll get back. And here we are and you know,
1:12:47
Speaker 1: November and even the horizon, you know that that light
1:12:52
Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel, it's very dim, So
1:12:55
Speaker 1: you know, we're looking at you know, probably you know,
1:12:58
Speaker 1: the mid part of only one before we get back
1:13:01
Speaker 1: to work. So in the meantime, you know, we have
1:13:04
Speaker 1: to make do with what we have and find a
1:13:07
Speaker 1: new way. Right when has been challenging for something interesting
1:13:12
Speaker 1: for us. So when you say, because look, a lot
1:13:15
Speaker 1: of people look at a singer doesn't realize a singer
1:13:17
Speaker 1: or performer, like you're you're an entrepreneur, you're a business person,
1:13:20
Speaker 1: and so when you're looking at the business, you have
1:13:22
Speaker 1: to put together a budget, and other people depend on
1:13:24
Speaker 1: your your touring, your revenue that you bring to the table.
1:13:28
Speaker 1: Like I said, we all expected it to be as
1:13:30
Speaker 1: well as I. You know, I'm an entrepreneur own the
1:13:33
Speaker 1: business in the line of George, I've I have employees
1:13:35
Speaker 1: that look to me to deliver a paycheck at least
1:13:38
Speaker 1: twice a month when they expected to pay their own
1:13:41
Speaker 1: personal bills. And so when they when they told us
1:13:44
Speaker 1: to shut down for two months, I thought, like, you up.
1:13:47
Speaker 1: And maybe we've been back up and running. But then
1:13:49
Speaker 1: when all the advertising industry said, hey, we're gonna go
1:13:52
Speaker 1: away for the second quarter, and then the third quarter,
1:13:54
Speaker 1: and then we look now when we see the pandemic
1:13:57
Speaker 1: is spiking again. You know, we're over a hundred and
1:13:59
Speaker 1: fifty cases per day. So that's what you're saying, is
1:14:02
Speaker 1: that when it looks like it may be a potential
1:14:05
Speaker 1: to get turned around and live venues start opening back
1:14:08
Speaker 1: up and featuring consistent. There are some venues out there
1:14:11
Speaker 1: to open, but it's inconsistent because of the fact that
1:14:14
Speaker 1: all people willing are comfortable to go back into arenas,
1:14:18
Speaker 1: because right now the movie industry is dying because people
1:14:21
Speaker 1: are not comfortable with going into movie theaters. So what
1:14:24
Speaker 1: do you think is the big push that's gonna make
1:14:26
Speaker 1: a difference. Is that the vaccine? All you think a
1:14:29
Speaker 1: conference zone with people accepted the responsibility of wearing masks. Well,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of both. And unfortunately, uh,
1:14:40
Speaker 1: you know, people of color have been used as guinea
1:14:44
Speaker 1: pigs for you know, these vaccines in the past, and
1:14:47
Speaker 1: it hasn't really worked out well for us. So I
1:14:49
Speaker 1: am assuming that a lot of folks are sort of like,
1:14:52
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm gonna wait, you know, and
1:14:55
Speaker 1: and see what happens soon, you know, other folks, and
1:14:59
Speaker 1: and see how this you know, see how this vaccine works.
1:15:02
Speaker 1: So um and the plus you know, for my demographic,
1:15:06
Speaker 1: you know, my demographic is slightly older. Um that you
1:15:11
Speaker 1: get out of there, we know we will. But you're
1:15:13
Speaker 1: telling the truth, you know, because I'm gonna tell you
1:15:15
Speaker 1: when when the when the pandemic hit in Atlanta, Georgia,
1:15:19
Speaker 1: eight out of the ten cases that were in the
1:15:21
Speaker 1: hospital or African Americans and so that is why when
1:15:25
Speaker 1: I look at it, the whole situation right now, you know,
1:15:27
Speaker 1: that's where Donald Trump was out there campaigning. They didn't
1:15:30
Speaker 1: want to say it, but they know who has been affecting.
1:15:32
Speaker 1: This is affecting people of color, people over sixty five.
1:15:36
Speaker 1: And that wasn't his base, and so so he was
1:15:39
Speaker 1: just out there flaunting it again his base can get
1:15:42
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, but not like at the risk of like
1:15:46
Speaker 1: we can get it. And I said, we mean people
1:15:47
Speaker 1: of color, African Americans, especially when you say eight out
1:15:51
Speaker 1: of ten cases. So they all know from a standpoint
1:15:54
Speaker 1: that you know, that's why that that the minority community
1:15:58
Speaker 1: when I clude the minority, includers, Latinos. But this is
1:16:01
Speaker 1: our audience and so you know our audience dollars already
1:16:04
Speaker 1: stretched anyway will and so when you have us having
1:16:07
Speaker 1: to deal with you know, uh no stimulus package, uh
1:16:12
Speaker 1: venues that are not available for us to perform in.
1:16:14
Speaker 1: When I say us, you know, I I book venues.
1:16:17
Speaker 1: I booked talent. I've been up talent myself as a
1:16:20
Speaker 1: stand up comic, so I know what it takes and
1:16:23
Speaker 1: what it what it means when you go out there
1:16:25
Speaker 1: with these venues opportunities, venue opportunities. You make a difference
1:16:28
Speaker 1: when you used to come in to Houston because that
1:16:30
Speaker 1: venue was open and then people work through ticket booth.
1:16:33
Speaker 1: People did the ticket, you know, did soul drinks. And
1:16:37
Speaker 1: so you are like a machine and you are a
1:16:40
Speaker 1: revenue generator not only for the for yourself personally for
1:16:43
Speaker 1: the city of Houston. You know, you flew into town.
1:16:45
Speaker 1: You know, you had cast service your hotel. So you know,
1:16:49
Speaker 1: I don't know if you look at yourself at that perspective.
1:16:51
Speaker 1: So as you go from town to town, you're just moving.
1:16:53
Speaker 1: You just bringing your little revenue generating behind from each
1:16:56
Speaker 1: city and you're making a difference in the community. And
1:16:59
Speaker 1: that's not happening anymore. And that's a really big deal. Yeah,
1:17:05
Speaker 1: there's certainly a domino theory that you know, they're just
1:17:08
Speaker 1: speaking you know, um as you said, you know, I
1:17:11
Speaker 1: have eight employees that I you know, eight folks that
1:17:15
Speaker 1: travel with me. So band members who relying on me
1:17:20
Speaker 1: in some cases not exclusively to to feed their family,
1:17:23
Speaker 1: because musicians kind of jumped from you know, artists to artists. Uh,
1:17:27
Speaker 1: and they make it work in their calendars somehow so
1:17:29
Speaker 1: that no one gets screwed. You know, so if I'm performing,
1:17:32
Speaker 1: you know, more than likely there's someone that they're working
1:17:35
Speaker 1: with is not hitting at the same time or the
1:17:37
Speaker 1: same uh same same weekend, so we can get the
1:17:40
Speaker 1: same folks. So needless to say, eight or nine people
1:17:43
Speaker 1: I employed, uh and they you know, when this thing hit,
1:17:46
Speaker 1: they were looking at me like, you know, you want
1:17:49
Speaker 1: to take this chance. And as you just said, you know,
1:17:53
Speaker 1: this disproportionately hits our community. And as I was saying earlier,
1:17:58
Speaker 1: the age demo for if even if they did open
1:18:01
Speaker 1: up the venues, Now, if a lot of the people
1:18:04
Speaker 1: that come to my concerts check off all those boxes,
1:18:07
Speaker 1: you know, hot blood pressure of a certain age, uh,
1:18:11
Speaker 1: you know, had pre existing uh conditions. So if someone
1:18:15
Speaker 1: were coming through the arena theater to come see me,
1:18:19
Speaker 1: and if someone sneeze, people would be running up them
1:18:22
Speaker 1: out to get the freak out. And not to mention
1:18:26
Speaker 1: the potential loss it will, you might be running off
1:18:29
Speaker 1: the stage. I might be running good gentlemen, please good night. Yeah.
1:18:40
Speaker 1: I mean it's just a risk that uh right now,
1:18:44
Speaker 1: uh is I don't think that's a smart thing to do. UM.
1:18:48
Speaker 1: I think everyone just has to be patient, you know,
1:18:50
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1:18:53
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1:18:55
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1:18:59
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1:20:27
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1:22:26
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1:22:30
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Speaker 1: steps of that song coming about so Many Good Die Young.
1:22:52
Speaker 1: It was released November eleven, and one of the main
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1:22:58
Speaker 1: know about that song and get the word out and
1:23:00
Speaker 1: then the people start downloading and start living with it
1:23:03
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, well, thank you very much. Um. Once again.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: The song is entitled so Many Good Die Young, and
1:23:09
Speaker 1: the inspiration for it was I'm working with one of
1:23:13
Speaker 1: my band members. We've been doing the last about four
1:23:16
Speaker 1: or five records together, and we were doing this record
1:23:19
Speaker 1: and I just said, you know, we need something with
1:23:22
Speaker 1: a little bit more substance that we're missing a song.
1:23:24
Speaker 1: You know, I've pretty much been recording an album since
1:23:27
Speaker 1: we've been off, and you know, and listening to what
1:23:29
Speaker 1: we've had, I said, and we you know, we got
1:23:31
Speaker 1: all the dance stuff, we got all the you know,
1:23:33
Speaker 1: we got all the love songs. I said, we need
1:23:35
Speaker 1: a song of some substance. He said, I'm working on
1:23:38
Speaker 1: something right now. That's um, it's it's sad, he said,
1:23:43
Speaker 1: but it's a beautiful song. Is that you want to
1:23:44
Speaker 1: hear it? I just started on it and he started
1:23:47
Speaker 1: playing me so many good die young, and together we
1:23:50
Speaker 1: kind of penned, uh this song. The inspiration for it
1:23:54
Speaker 1: was the passing of Chadwick Boseman. You know. It was
1:23:58
Speaker 1: a shot to world as world and no one knew
1:24:02
Speaker 1: that he was sick, uh, and it kind of hit
1:24:05
Speaker 1: us all hard. And then it got both of us thinking, like,
1:24:08
Speaker 1: how many other people have died at this early age?
1:24:11
Speaker 1: And as you said, you know, people like Kaliyah, Um,
1:24:14
Speaker 1: Prince Michael Jackson was fifty tupart Hell, Martin Luther King
1:24:21
Speaker 1: and Malcolm were only thirty nine. The world Oh no, yeah, yeah,
1:24:31
Speaker 1: at thirty nine. Both of them gentlemen changed the world,
1:24:35
Speaker 1: you know, uh, and it makes you look at yourself
1:24:38
Speaker 1: and what you're doing with your life and how you're
1:24:40
Speaker 1: living your every day and all those old sayings that
1:24:43
Speaker 1: you used to hear your your aunts and your uncles
1:24:45
Speaker 1: and your grandparents and your parents say, like, you know,
1:24:48
Speaker 1: tomorrow is not promised. Live every day like it's your last.
1:24:51
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's sort of like thing, all
1:24:54
Speaker 1: that stuff starts to make sense to you, and you
1:24:57
Speaker 1: might start taking life a little bit more seriously and
1:25:00
Speaker 1: enjoying life and also adding something to society and giving
1:25:04
Speaker 1: something back, you know what I mean, leaving your mark.
1:25:07
Speaker 1: You know. With the advent of the Internet, which in
1:25:10
Speaker 1: my opinion, is one of the greatest inventions ever made,
1:25:14
Speaker 1: the great one of the greatest, but it is also
1:25:18
Speaker 1: one of the worst. There's so much information out there
1:25:22
Speaker 1: that yet when when something happens in the world today,
1:25:27
Speaker 1: if someone passes away, it's almost like like we've become desensitized.
1:25:32
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're here and then you're not.
1:25:36
Speaker 1: You know, so you're a blurb on a on a feed,
1:25:39
Speaker 1: you know, if you're on one of the social media platforms,
1:25:42
Speaker 1: you see it so and so passed away today, and
1:25:44
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this is terrible, and then
1:25:46
Speaker 1: it rolls up a little bit and then it's like
1:25:48
Speaker 1: literally just forgotten we were talking about. And when I'm
1:25:52
Speaker 1: feeling the video, when I was watching it and listening
1:25:55
Speaker 1: to the song, you know, there's a lot of things
1:25:57
Speaker 1: going on in there, you know, like I said, you know,
1:26:00
Speaker 1: because you know we have Kobe in there, where Chadwick
1:26:02
Speaker 1: you know his his untimely death. You know, we have
1:26:05
Speaker 1: Marvin Gaye, you have you know, uh civil rights leaders
1:26:08
Speaker 1: H Mart, Luther King and uh Malcolm X. And then
1:26:12
Speaker 1: you had a Tupacket in there, and then you got current,
1:26:16
Speaker 1: even more current. George Floyd's in there, Brianna Taylor's in there,
1:26:20
Speaker 1: so and and and and putting it in the inspiring
1:26:24
Speaker 1: layers together, because that's a lot of different things going
1:26:27
Speaker 1: on there. You know, when you have something with Michael
1:26:29
Speaker 1: Jackson and printing there, you know you could have went
1:26:32
Speaker 1: all all Luther and Ross is in there. And so
1:26:34
Speaker 1: I've seen this video several times a well, so I
1:26:36
Speaker 1: could I could just start rattling off, you know, my boy,
1:26:39
Speaker 1: I saw Gerald Leaverte I almost and Sean I took
1:26:42
Speaker 1: a seatback because Gerald's death was a shocker to Gerald
1:26:45
Speaker 1: LeVert that uh and so when I when I look,
1:26:47
Speaker 1: when it could have been all music? Okay, because you
1:26:51
Speaker 1: have wit mean and Leah, what made you start crossing
1:26:55
Speaker 1: genres as far as you know, because Chadwick and Kobe
1:27:00
Speaker 1: Obi sports, Chadwick is acting and then the the death
1:27:04
Speaker 1: of the several arts they led to major several arrest
1:27:08
Speaker 1: in the city of Louisville. Is Brianna Taylor and George Florida, Minnesota.
1:27:12
Speaker 1: When did you start saying, you know something, I gonna
1:27:13
Speaker 1: include everybody. I have to make sure this message goes
1:27:17
Speaker 1: across board and I'm not gonna make it just a
1:27:20
Speaker 1: celebrity driven piece. Well I decided to do that because
1:27:24
Speaker 1: all of these people really meant something to the world
1:27:28
Speaker 1: and change the world. I mean, no one, you know,
1:27:31
Speaker 1: the average person didn't know who George Floyd was. And
1:27:34
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the world is looking at
1:27:38
Speaker 1: the TV and they're saying this officer with his knee
1:27:41
Speaker 1: on his neck, and all of a sudden, people around
1:27:45
Speaker 1: the world got it, like, Okay, you know, maybe maybe
1:27:49
Speaker 1: we are leaning a little bit too hard on people
1:27:52
Speaker 1: of color. You know, it made the world pair attention.
1:27:54
Speaker 1: They had demonstrations around the world. So it changed, it
1:27:59
Speaker 1: changed all of thinking. The numbers eight, four or six
1:28:03
Speaker 1: in the time eight minutes and forty six seconds, all
1:28:06
Speaker 1: of a sudden means something to everyone around the world.
1:28:08
Speaker 1: It will almost be as iconic as nine A LEFTL
1:28:12
Speaker 1: you know. So when you think of something like that,
1:28:14
Speaker 1: that's big and you need to speak on that and
1:28:16
Speaker 1: let people know. And you know, and and it's funny
1:28:19
Speaker 1: in the video and it's not funny, but in the video,
1:28:22
Speaker 1: I put um the officer, you know, I put his
1:28:26
Speaker 1: picture in the video, and some and some people commented say, everybody,
1:28:29
Speaker 1: you put the space. It's like, I never want you
1:28:31
Speaker 1: to forget how this young man passed away. It was
1:28:33
Speaker 1: not of natural cause, you know, I always want you
1:28:36
Speaker 1: to as young folks say, stay whoke. I want you
1:28:39
Speaker 1: to stay awake, stay woke, you know, keep your eyes open.
1:28:42
Speaker 1: This man took this young man's life at this early age.
1:28:45
Speaker 1: But in a in a warp sort of a way,
1:28:47
Speaker 1: he's become a martyr, you know, because now people are awake.
1:28:50
Speaker 1: Every time they see that, they're kind of like, you know,
1:28:52
Speaker 1: maybe they'll they'll treat people that don't look like them
1:28:55
Speaker 1: a little differently, you know, and they'll wake up and
1:28:58
Speaker 1: kind of maybe I should give this person an our
1:29:00
Speaker 1: to me. Maybe I shouldn't be so nasty. Maybe I
1:29:02
Speaker 1: shouldn't you know what I mean, Let's treat each other
1:29:04
Speaker 1: a little bit more fairly. So you know that that's
1:29:06
Speaker 1: why I left that in then, So everyone that's on
1:29:08
Speaker 1: that video has changed the world in some sort of
1:29:12
Speaker 1: a way, right from a musical standpoint, from an acting
1:29:15
Speaker 1: stand from from I think Kobe from a from a
1:29:18
Speaker 1: parentee standpoint, as well as a sports figure, you know,
1:29:21
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career that he had with the l
1:29:23
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1:29:25
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1:29:29
Speaker 1: and the you you really got a lot of people
1:29:31
Speaker 1: in this in this in this video, and it really
1:29:34
Speaker 1: uh took me down memory lane. And also like you know,
1:29:38
Speaker 1: when you go from Luther, you go to Tupac, you
1:29:40
Speaker 1: go to to b I G. And then when you
1:29:42
Speaker 1: look at some of you, there's tragic because you know
1:29:45
Speaker 1: Tupac was killed, you know, by drive by situation, the
1:29:48
Speaker 1: same thing with Torris b I G. So a lot
1:29:50
Speaker 1: of these individuals were victimize and Marvin Gaye was killed
1:29:54
Speaker 1: by his brother. So a lot of the individually victimized
1:29:57
Speaker 1: by circumstances that that that they didn't see coming. Uh,
1:30:02
Speaker 1: didn't even have control of. It wasn't natural causes, you know.
1:30:05
Speaker 1: You know, we know that Lia was through a plane
1:30:07
Speaker 1: crash and so that's that they didn't get a chance
1:30:10
Speaker 1: to live their lives to the to the fullest because
1:30:13
Speaker 1: they all died young. And that's the name of the song.
1:30:16
Speaker 1: So many good die young that right now you can
1:30:19
Speaker 1: see it on YouTube. Uh. It was released November eleven.
1:30:22
Speaker 1: I'm putting in my news letter this week. We'll I
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1:30:27
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1:30:43
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1:30:45
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1:30:47
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1:30:49
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1:30:52
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1:30:55
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1:30:57
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1:31:00
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1:31:03
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1:31:05
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1:31:07
Speaker 1: Because you are iconic in this industry. You that's iconic.
1:31:12
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1:31:18
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1:31:20
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1:31:23
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1:31:26
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1:31:30
Speaker 1: That's a gift. That's it's true. Man. My uh, my father, uh,
1:31:36
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1:33:25
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Speaker 1: Please work the money making conversation, Shanda Scott, thank you
1:41:04
Speaker 1: for that wonderful introduction. Well, well, one point seven billion
1:41:08
Speaker 1: dollars Okay, this is a money making conversation, Miss Scott,
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Speaker 1: talk to us about being able to put that number
1:41:15
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Speaker 1: and my firm does work on mega projects to make
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1:41:34
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1:42:05
Speaker 1: So that tells you how much money is out there
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1:42:10
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1:42:12
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1:42:20
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1:43:16
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1:43:19
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1:43:25
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1:43:29
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1:43:31
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1:43:34
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1:43:40
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Speaker 1: by the pandemic, the consulting part of our business was
1:48:46
Speaker 1: we were able still to provide services for our clients
1:48:49
Speaker 1: and even help build more service with them because now
1:48:52
Speaker 1: we have this virtual world and since we also produce
1:48:56
Speaker 1: TV content, we were able to produce the meetings that
1:48:59
Speaker 1: we need to actually be a zoom that is now
1:49:03
Speaker 1: used as production because of the pandemic and the social
1:49:06
Speaker 1: distancing requirements. Really, um, first of all, congratulations, you know,
1:49:11
Speaker 1: because of the fact that that is that is a
1:49:14
Speaker 1: big turn. When you hear you know, Twitter to a
1:49:16
Speaker 1: much stay home Facebook said, you know, we're gonna we
1:49:19
Speaker 1: want everybody to be home with a certain period of
1:49:21
Speaker 1: their production character just just looking at the technical side,
1:49:24
Speaker 1: the paperwork side, and lets somebody out there physically, you know,
1:49:28
Speaker 1: putting something together. Then there is a thought process that
1:49:31
Speaker 1: they can be productive in an environment. But let me
1:49:35
Speaker 1: ask you this question, because I saw there's always an
1:49:38
Speaker 1: undercurrent of you know, you can work at home, but
1:49:40
Speaker 1: do you still how do you manage that person? How
1:49:43
Speaker 1: do you allow what are the raised opportunity as far
1:49:46
Speaker 1: as you know their work responsibility, their promotion within the company. Also,
1:49:53
Speaker 1: do they get paid a little less because of the
1:49:56
Speaker 1: fact that they're working at home. Facebook has said that
1:49:59
Speaker 1: where you'll take on this because you deal with these
1:50:01
Speaker 1: situations on the regular basis and people are asking you
1:50:04
Speaker 1: these type of questions. Facebook has said it publicly. Look,
1:50:07
Speaker 1: if you work from home, you're not don't expect to
1:50:09
Speaker 1: get paid the same amount of money if you come
1:50:11
Speaker 1: to work, well, well, well, I feel like when you
1:50:15
Speaker 1: start playing that with people's money, that's that may not
1:50:19
Speaker 1: be fair because I think I always believe that you
1:50:22
Speaker 1: should pay people their worth, you know, like I always
1:50:25
Speaker 1: say about equal pay. I was like for women, especially
1:50:28
Speaker 1: African American women, if you want equal pay, then start
1:50:31
Speaker 1: your own business because you're gonna pay yourself. You'll create
1:50:34
Speaker 1: you can create the environment that makes to pay fair.
1:50:37
Speaker 1: So I always believe in uh, you know, whatever are
1:50:41
Speaker 1: the firms, the people that work for us, the teams
1:50:44
Speaker 1: that were on, I'm gonna negotiate the highest and best
1:50:47
Speaker 1: for them that's fair and reasonable. And I think people
1:50:50
Speaker 1: shouldn't get paid their worth. So I I feel like
1:50:52
Speaker 1: a billion dollar company they should not then look at
1:50:57
Speaker 1: necessarily reducing someone's pay. Understand that now if you move
1:51:01
Speaker 1: out of California, they're starting to reduce your pay because
1:51:05
Speaker 1: of the cost of living. Because some people we're getting
1:51:07
Speaker 1: on this bandwagon where they're like, oh, I can get
1:51:09
Speaker 1: this California pay and then I can move to Nebraska
1:51:12
Speaker 1: and still well that almost is a way of kind
1:51:14
Speaker 1: of pimping the system, right, So like, no, I can
1:51:17
Speaker 1: understand where you may reduce it to the comparable area
1:51:21
Speaker 1: that you live in versus you getting paid California rates
1:51:25
Speaker 1: even if you live now moving to Nebraska. Now, if
1:51:28
Speaker 1: that's your business and you plan and you do that,
1:51:30
Speaker 1: that might be a good business move. But if you're
1:51:32
Speaker 1: working for someone and you're an employee, that I can
1:51:37
Speaker 1: understand that strategy is maybe relooking at how much you're
1:51:40
Speaker 1: paying people, because that would be an over compensation for
1:51:42
Speaker 1: the work they're doing based on the cost of it.
1:51:44
Speaker 1: And then then just to correct myself, that's what faithbook
1:51:47
Speaker 1: was doing. Based on the cost of living in the
1:51:49
Speaker 1: area that you're in, then you will be compensating accordingly,
1:51:53
Speaker 1: like if you're in New York, you might get nity
1:51:56
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas with the cost of living unless you
1:51:58
Speaker 1: might get seventy I believe that what there was referencing
1:52:00
Speaker 1: an article I was talking about, let's talk about being
1:52:03
Speaker 1: a black female and successful black female with a woman
1:52:07
Speaker 1: of color the president elect. Where what does that what
1:52:11
Speaker 1: does that line yourself of how proud are you are?
1:52:15
Speaker 1: Does it create a conference zone? There's it quite a
1:52:18
Speaker 1: conference zone? Or finally, because when she said, I'm not
1:52:21
Speaker 1: the last person to send on the stage and to
1:52:25
Speaker 1: send to the White House, what are your thoughts with
1:52:27
Speaker 1: that being the fact that you've been out there bumping heads, fighting, battling,
1:52:32
Speaker 1: trying to get respect, getting paid less than even your
1:52:35
Speaker 1: female white counterparts. Where are you here with their ms?
1:52:39
Speaker 1: Ms Scott? I think it was so amazing to see
1:52:42
Speaker 1: all the pictures of the young girls that we're looking
1:52:44
Speaker 1: and what that will do to their trajectory and how
1:52:49
Speaker 1: their confidence and how that feels like, how and so
1:52:51
Speaker 1: how important it is to really see people who look
1:52:54
Speaker 1: like you in these roles. I mean, I feel like
1:52:57
Speaker 1: I've seen my mentors who look like me. I work
1:53:00
Speaker 1: for an African American owned consulting firm, you know, years ago,
1:53:04
Speaker 1: so and my parents had businesses and my a lot
1:53:07
Speaker 1: of my mentors are look like me. They're African American women,
1:53:11
Speaker 1: So you know, to see a woman of color in
1:53:13
Speaker 1: the highest position and these young people see that, I
1:53:16
Speaker 1: think that is That's the part that feels my heart
1:53:19
Speaker 1: because I feel like everything that we're doing now is
1:53:21
Speaker 1: for the next generation. We're planning seeds for their for
1:53:25
Speaker 1: trees to grow, for them to sit under, you know.
1:53:28
Speaker 1: So things that we're experiencing now is that already happened.
1:53:32
Speaker 1: Like what we're experiencing now was work done in the past.
1:53:35
Speaker 1: So the work we're doing now is for the future generations.
1:53:39
Speaker 1: So what makes me feel good about all all the
1:53:42
Speaker 1: blessings in this moment is that this is planning seeds
1:53:45
Speaker 1: for our next generation. And that's our responsibility. Because I
1:53:48
Speaker 1: always tell my colleagues, if the younger generation aren't succeeding.
1:53:53
Speaker 1: That's our fault. You know, we are their mentors. We
1:53:57
Speaker 1: are there, We are leaving seeds for their for their
1:54:00
Speaker 1: legacy to build on. So I just get excited to
1:54:04
Speaker 1: see all the little pictures of the little girls with
1:54:07
Speaker 1: the with the cluff balls looking at the moment when
1:54:11
Speaker 1: you know the election was done. You know, I think
1:54:14
Speaker 1: that's all such a beautiful moment for those generations, and
1:54:17
Speaker 1: just I want to see how they'll turn out and
1:54:20
Speaker 1: what they'll what life would look like when that's them,
1:54:24
Speaker 1: you know, thirty forty fifty years from now. You know,
1:54:27
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you about myself, mscott Um when
1:54:30
Speaker 1: I look at you talk about generations and uh parents
1:54:34
Speaker 1: who are entrepreneurs and have owning property, and you know,
1:54:38
Speaker 1: I'm just a morning the hood you Uh. I can
1:54:42
Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid. We went to a
1:54:43
Speaker 1: wallerman a farm when I was a kid, and you know,
1:54:48
Speaker 1: our house may I don't even remember if it even exists.
1:54:51
Speaker 1: But I feel so fortunate to talk to people who
1:54:54
Speaker 1: family got it, you know, who who understood legacy, who
1:54:58
Speaker 1: understood value and and steward generational wealth, who understood generational opportunity.
1:55:03
Speaker 1: I guess I should say, and held on the things
1:55:06
Speaker 1: that have so much value, but also kind of like
1:55:10
Speaker 1: set you apart from other people who who the forty
1:55:14
Speaker 1: in the forty eacre and the Murle opportunity, the mural
1:55:17
Speaker 1: died and the land got sold. Okay, So how does
1:55:20
Speaker 1: that when you talk about your family opened up that
1:55:22
Speaker 1: where is that that with you? From a pride standpoint,
1:55:25
Speaker 1: From a legacy standpoint, well, well, I'm I'm happy that
1:55:30
Speaker 1: they were able to pass down, you know, wisdom and
1:55:33
Speaker 1: knowledge and that I'm able to collect from our family
1:55:36
Speaker 1: the history and put the pieces together to kind of
1:55:40
Speaker 1: evolve in paint a picture from my life. But it
1:55:43
Speaker 1: was not without struggle, and it was not without sacrifice,
1:55:46
Speaker 1: and it's not without loss. I mean, you know, as
1:55:48
Speaker 1: an African American in this world, no matter what level
1:55:52
Speaker 1: of success your family has had through the legacies, you've
1:55:55
Speaker 1: also had lost. I mean, my great grandfather was born
1:55:59
Speaker 1: a lave. I mean he was his mom was a slave,
1:56:02
Speaker 1: His dad was a slave owner, and that was his beginning.
1:56:06
Speaker 1: He had to work to become a developer. He just
1:56:09
Speaker 1: had a vision to do that. You know, it's by
1:56:12
Speaker 1: the grace of God that my grandmother kept the family
1:56:15
Speaker 1: some of the family property in our family for legacy
1:56:18
Speaker 1: and made a intentional approach to make sure that it
1:56:22
Speaker 1: stayed in the family and passed down. And now we're
1:56:25
Speaker 1: able to see that importance and do it developing measures
1:56:30
Speaker 1: to pass it down to the next generations. My family
1:56:33
Speaker 1: was very successful, but there was loss, you know, I mean,
1:56:36
Speaker 1: they had to figure out ways, and we all had
1:56:38
Speaker 1: to figure out ways from um not being able to
1:56:42
Speaker 1: pass down generational wealth light our white counterparts are able
1:56:46
Speaker 1: to do like they were able to do when they
1:56:48
Speaker 1: were owning slaves and passed And I went to the
1:56:51
Speaker 1: National Historic Museum of Black Coach African American Culture in Washington,
1:56:56
Speaker 1: z c. And you actually see where they bequeath people
1:57:00
Speaker 1: African people from generations. So they gave wealth to their
1:57:04
Speaker 1: family even in free labor, for for multi generations. My
1:57:08
Speaker 1: grandmother's a hundred and two years old in Houston on
1:57:11
Speaker 1: my mom's side, I mean, and you know, you just
1:57:14
Speaker 1: think about just in just her life, in our lives,
1:57:17
Speaker 1: that was all that generational of free wealth that was
1:57:21
Speaker 1: was slave wealth. So then we now have to build
1:57:24
Speaker 1: on each generation African Americans, even if you're passing down
1:57:28
Speaker 1: wisdom and knowledge. You may not be able to pass
1:57:30
Speaker 1: down all that you've had and all that you've gained
1:57:34
Speaker 1: for five and four generations. I mean that you probably
1:57:37
Speaker 1: can count the families in the in the United States,
1:57:39
Speaker 1: African America have done that. But what the blessing is
1:57:42
Speaker 1: is that families like ours have passed down wisdom and
1:57:45
Speaker 1: knowledge and the things that you cannot even pay for,
1:57:49
Speaker 1: and the and the ability to learn the best practices
1:57:52
Speaker 1: and learn lessons, learn from whatever they've done. And that
1:57:55
Speaker 1: part I passed down to my son, you know, so
1:57:58
Speaker 1: now he'll be like a fifth generation entrepreneur and then
1:58:02
Speaker 1: he can continue so like from our generations to my
1:58:05
Speaker 1: great grand children. We can see that these things will
1:58:08
Speaker 1: be in an hour at a point where the passing
1:58:11
Speaker 1: down of wealth we can do. But the generational gap
1:58:14
Speaker 1: and the racial wealth gap, I mean, it's still so vast.
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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald. He's so, maybe that's something slip
1:59:29
Speaker 1: out there. You said Houston. Did you say Houston, Texas? Right?
1:59:33
Speaker 1: My grandmother has lived in Houston for a hundred and
1:59:35
Speaker 1: two years. Okay, now I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas.
1:59:38
Speaker 1: Fit forward, So you letting little stuff slip out your
1:59:42
Speaker 1: young brother cast him and sister sister back in the day,
1:59:46
Speaker 1: and now your grandfather lives in Houston, Texas now right,
1:59:51
Speaker 1: and my mom was born there, okay, mom high school? Okay,
1:59:56
Speaker 1: Now she probably knows my oldest sister to them because
2:00:01
Speaker 1: because I was I was born and raised in fifth Ward.
2:00:04
Speaker 1: Oh wow, which is that area? So so we after
2:00:10
Speaker 1: then we moved into UH, to the northeast side of Houston.
2:00:13
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if we have connected alone
2:00:17
Speaker 1: the way, because Cashmere is where she went to school.
2:00:20
Speaker 1: She graduated cash Oh yeah, she probably does it. It's
2:00:24
Speaker 1: a so it's a powerful connection. Canvaina Gardenlum not? Oh?
2:00:27
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely so. So with that being said, she should
2:00:30
Speaker 1: be slipping out this just to be dropping. Let's talk
2:00:33
Speaker 1: about this. You co host your brother, he's an actor
2:00:36
Speaker 1: and uh sibling what sibling rivalry? Talk about that podcast?
2:00:41
Speaker 1: And why are you suddenly getting in front of the
2:00:44
Speaker 1: mic and you've been so productive so successful behind the mic?
2:00:48
Speaker 1: What I know your brother that's why he's made his dollars.
2:00:51
Speaker 1: You made your dollars, you know, slid, quiet, you articularly
2:00:55
Speaker 1: you beautiful? Why now why not? Misscott? Well, I had
2:01:00
Speaker 1: a show for fourteen years is our fourteene year now
2:01:03
Speaker 1: called Spotlight with Ghonda, and it was why how I
2:01:06
Speaker 1: celebrated success that came out of Oakland, California and all
2:01:10
Speaker 1: the legacy and the rich history and the positive stories
2:01:13
Speaker 1: in front of the camera. But you're right, I like
2:01:15
Speaker 1: being producer and behind the scenes, I'm like coming up
2:01:18
Speaker 1: with the vision and the creativity. But the what Sibling
2:01:21
Speaker 1: Robbery moved me because so many people wanted us to
2:01:24
Speaker 1: start sharing our story about our family, our legacy. My
2:01:27
Speaker 1: brother and I have you know, projects that are based
2:01:31
Speaker 1: on loosely based on our family and our different stories
2:01:35
Speaker 1: in our family. So the podcast just became like the
2:01:38
Speaker 1: right moment and the right time to start sharing our
2:01:42
Speaker 1: just position between me being a girl and him being
2:01:44
Speaker 1: a boy, and us being siblings, but us being close
2:01:47
Speaker 1: and the closest of our families. What people wanted to
2:01:50
Speaker 1: wanted to hear about and how it evolved because we
2:01:52
Speaker 1: always talked about when we were growing up. They called
2:01:55
Speaker 1: my mom Claire because they talked about our family was
2:01:58
Speaker 1: like the Huxtables, when we were to play, if everybody
2:02:00
Speaker 1: would come and hang out, and my mom was like Claire,
2:02:04
Speaker 1: she had to Claire attitude. She was professional, she was
2:02:06
Speaker 1: flied and she didn't like and so and my dad was,
2:02:10
Speaker 1: you know, comedy, fun and professional, but just really a card. Right.
2:02:15
Speaker 1: So we are now sharing the values of our family
2:02:19
Speaker 1: values and how we were brought up and the importance
2:02:21
Speaker 1: of that now. But then we also talked about the
2:02:24
Speaker 1: what sibling robbery is like sometimes we don't agree and
2:02:27
Speaker 1: we have different opinions and we share that too. And
2:02:29
Speaker 1: we're also being able to have you know, celebrity siblings
2:02:33
Speaker 1: come on the show to talk about their upbringing and
2:02:36
Speaker 1: how they became successful and how those same family values
2:02:39
Speaker 1: were it's still in them. So it's just fun and
2:02:42
Speaker 1: it's it's fun, funny and informative. Is what sibling rivalry? Well,
2:02:47
Speaker 1: the thing about it that is so many ways. That's
2:02:49
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why Maya talking to you, because you
2:02:53
Speaker 1: are headed the curb with a lot of ways what
2:02:56
Speaker 1: people are and you've been able to manipulate it to
2:02:59
Speaker 1: a business model. Everything tends to go back to you
2:03:02
Speaker 1: from an entrepreneurial standpoint. You know, you look at the
2:03:05
Speaker 1: model you say, I kind of use this the market
2:03:07
Speaker 1: and brand and build on my brand or my messaging,
2:03:11
Speaker 1: and so what is the message and you're trying to
2:03:13
Speaker 1: tell us about you know, your company h three total concepts. So,
2:03:19
Speaker 1: like I said, I built the founder of the company
2:03:21
Speaker 1: based on being a part of the solution. You know,
2:03:23
Speaker 1: so many times you hear about the racial disparity, the
2:03:28
Speaker 1: racial disparity gap. You hear about how we are struggling
2:03:31
Speaker 1: as a community. You hear about how we're left out
2:03:33
Speaker 1: and not have a seat at the table. And I'm
2:03:35
Speaker 1: always saying, well, let's build our own table and invite
2:03:38
Speaker 1: people to have a seat with us. So the the
2:03:41
Speaker 1: by Company is about bringing opportunity to others in a
2:03:47
Speaker 1: major way. You know, like I said, these major bond
2:03:50
Speaker 1: programs and these infrastructure projects are billion dollar projects that
2:03:55
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to be at the table and
2:03:58
Speaker 1: participate in the construct ouction area and the consulting area
2:04:02
Speaker 1: in so many areas on these projects, and there's such
2:04:06
Speaker 1: a vast disparity, but how we're underutilized that my company
2:04:10
Speaker 1: is like the bridge that help businesses that are historically
2:04:13
Speaker 1: underutilized actually be able to be a part of these
2:04:16
Speaker 1: projects and build equity and build capacity so that their
2:04:21
Speaker 1: firm can be bigger and better and do the same
2:04:24
Speaker 1: thing for other firms. That's what we really are about.
2:04:27
Speaker 1: We're about equity and operat to be in that bridge
2:04:29
Speaker 1: of opportunity. You know, here's the interesting thing about it,
2:04:33
Speaker 1: and letna just read right here. You know, you're creating
2:04:35
Speaker 1: a premier consulting firm specializing in program management, in area monitoring,
2:04:40
Speaker 1: and contract compliance, which is really, really, really, that's really
2:04:47
Speaker 1: you know, let's put when I when I look at
2:04:49
Speaker 1: job opportunities, you know, you don't just see a black
2:04:51
Speaker 1: person think about that as an option, you know, monitoring,
2:04:55
Speaker 1: contract compliance, logistics and facilities management, every one of those
2:05:00
Speaker 1: things I just said, say screams, white squeeze white opportunities.
2:05:06
Speaker 1: White people got to know lockdown. How did you in
2:05:10
Speaker 1: your mindset see an opportunity and how did you get
2:05:13
Speaker 1: the door cracked open and then and stay in the
2:05:16
Speaker 1: door once they closed behind you. So so my opportunity came,
2:05:21
Speaker 1: like I said, from Africa where what I just said, though,
2:05:24
Speaker 1: you are absolutely telling the truth right what you mean
2:05:28
Speaker 1: the perception that it is a white because like what
2:05:32
Speaker 1: what and that's why I'm not upset about how white
2:05:35
Speaker 1: men network because it becomes your network, like the move
2:05:39
Speaker 1: when you know the people you trust. If you need
2:05:41
Speaker 1: to call someone who, you're gonna call the people someone
2:05:43
Speaker 1: that you know as for a reference, so that's what
2:05:46
Speaker 1: their reference looks like. Right. So it's important that we
2:05:50
Speaker 1: do the same thing for our community. And I've been
2:05:52
Speaker 1: blessed to have had black women, including my mom and
2:05:56
Speaker 1: other black women business owners cracked the door open for me,
2:06:00
Speaker 1: and that's why I feel it's important for me to
2:06:02
Speaker 1: keep the door kicked open, wide open for others who
2:06:05
Speaker 1: look like me and like I always say. There's a
2:06:08
Speaker 1: study in Mackenzie that they came out in two thousand
2:06:10
Speaker 1: nineteen and it said that black business success is success
2:06:14
Speaker 1: for America because there's no time in history where we're
2:06:18
Speaker 1: successful where we're not inclusive. We're always inclusive. So black
2:06:23
Speaker 1: business is doing well, everybody is doing well. So it's
2:06:27
Speaker 1: important to us to make sure that black businesses are
2:06:30
Speaker 1: doing well so that America does well. So that's where
2:06:34
Speaker 1: my the the passion for my company, and the passion
2:06:38
Speaker 1: for the work we do comes from. And it's important
2:06:41
Speaker 1: that just as people who look like me open doors
2:06:44
Speaker 1: for me that I do the same thing. And that's
2:06:46
Speaker 1: where my family had My brother and I raised on
2:06:50
Speaker 1: that concept. And you know, and that's what really is
2:06:53
Speaker 1: so compelling to hear you talk because when you were
2:06:56
Speaker 1: talking about racism, which really confuses me because being a
2:07:00
Speaker 1: young man who grew up in the community, all I
2:07:02
Speaker 1: was taught was to uh, to achieve the white lifestyle,
2:07:07
Speaker 1: you know, get an education, you know, to follow the rules,
2:07:11
Speaker 1: you know, to provide a lifestyle that's be better than
2:07:14
Speaker 1: lifestyle I already had, which means you have to pay taxes,
2:07:17
Speaker 1: but he hadn't. Still Racism rears his ugly head. Racism
2:07:21
Speaker 1: still wants to block you. Racism still wants to deny
2:07:25
Speaker 1: you your real opportunity or your value, and that being
2:07:29
Speaker 1: that you not only are female, but your black female,
2:07:32
Speaker 1: which means that you get to experience sexism and get
2:07:35
Speaker 1: to be put in uncomfortable situations because you are attractive.
2:07:39
Speaker 1: And talk to us about that, and and just the
2:07:43
Speaker 1: ability to keep your head up, to keep your head
2:07:46
Speaker 1: under understanding that your mission and your goals can be achieved,
2:07:50
Speaker 1: and you have achieved your goals and you will continue
2:07:52
Speaker 1: to achieve your goals. Talk to us about that, well,
2:07:55
Speaker 1: I am a woman of faith, you know what I mean.
2:07:58
Speaker 1: So so my spirits, reality and my faith in God
2:08:01
Speaker 1: is what really is my north star? Like literally north
2:08:05
Speaker 1: star right, because I tell people I don't see me
2:08:09
Speaker 1: like I'm looking at me on zoom. I can see me,
2:08:11
Speaker 1: I can reflection me in the mirror, but when I
2:08:13
Speaker 1: walk into the room, I don't know, I'm not looking
2:08:15
Speaker 1: at me. You're looking at me, right, So I'm looking
2:08:17
Speaker 1: at me from the inside out. So I my it's
2:08:20
Speaker 1: important to me that my internal mechanisms are strong and
2:08:25
Speaker 1: together and that looks like nothing that looks like that's
2:08:28
Speaker 1: a spirit that doesn't look like one black woman, black
2:08:31
Speaker 1: white male, you know. So you know, that's the only
2:08:34
Speaker 1: defense that I have to overcome any obstacles that come
2:08:39
Speaker 1: my way, be it based on race, being based on
2:08:43
Speaker 1: you know, my gender, are being based on just you know,
2:08:47
Speaker 1: the opportunity, because sometimes you can be excluded because you know,
2:08:51
Speaker 1: you didn't go to the same college someone too, or
2:08:53
Speaker 1: you didn't do this the right way, or you know
2:08:55
Speaker 1: you didn't get this education and degree or whatever. But
2:08:58
Speaker 1: you see how there are people who have succeeded with
2:09:02
Speaker 1: less than that. So it's beyond just you know, what
2:09:05
Speaker 1: people see of each other. And I just feel like
2:09:08
Speaker 1: I always come from a place of hope because if
2:09:11
Speaker 1: we continue to allow how others feel about us become
2:09:15
Speaker 1: who we are and and define who we are, we
2:09:18
Speaker 1: will never you know, amount to all the possibilities God
2:09:22
Speaker 1: has for us, which is beyond anything a man could
2:09:26
Speaker 1: project on me. So I you know, and there's benefits
2:09:29
Speaker 1: to being a woman, and there's benefits. I'm glad now
2:09:31
Speaker 1: that African American you can you can talk unapologetically about
2:09:36
Speaker 1: black businesses and supporting black businesses now, you know, where
2:09:39
Speaker 1: there were times where you couldn't even say black without
2:09:42
Speaker 1: feeling nervous, you know. And it's like it's about time,
2:09:45
Speaker 1: because like I said, our benefit is going to benefit everyone,
2:09:51
Speaker 1: you know. Really, Uh, First of all, I'm so enjoying
2:09:54
Speaker 1: my conversation with you because the fact that, um we
2:09:59
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of similar journeys in the in
2:10:01
Speaker 1: the in the world of relationships, you know. And I
2:10:04
Speaker 1: firmly believe that racism is often tied tied to placement.
2:10:08
Speaker 1: I would tell people, you know, decisions are made when
2:10:11
Speaker 1: people conceive you. You have to always keep yourself in
2:10:13
Speaker 1: the in the line of sight of the decision makers.
2:10:16
Speaker 1: I always say, if you decisions are made left right
2:10:18
Speaker 1: and then front, if you're standing behind somebody when the
2:10:22
Speaker 1: decision is being made, and that's your career path, then
2:10:24
Speaker 1: guess what. Don't blame that on racism, Blame that on effort,
2:10:27
Speaker 1: Blame that on positioning. And you said something similar to
2:10:31
Speaker 1: that in the beginning of our conversation. And when you
2:10:33
Speaker 1: talk about I just bought a business in the Atlanta
2:10:36
Speaker 1: brought a building first, and like I would tell which
2:10:40
Speaker 1: you know, we buy houses, we buy jewelry by clothes,
2:10:43
Speaker 1: we buy cars by the building. It's not something normal,
2:10:47
Speaker 1: especially for African Americans or people of color. And so
2:10:50
Speaker 1: in my Google they if you go, if you if
2:10:53
Speaker 1: you put yourself in Google, then now have a little
2:10:55
Speaker 1: box you can check if you're black owned business that
2:10:59
Speaker 1: was not there. Proud to that you can click and
2:11:02
Speaker 1: say you are a black owned business. So now being
2:11:05
Speaker 1: a black owned business suddenly has value and recognition and
2:11:09
Speaker 1: you're telling the absolute truth. Sometimes there's a black owned
2:11:11
Speaker 1: business you didn't want to tell people. Sometimes you might
2:11:13
Speaker 1: want to let them think I'm white. You know, I
2:11:16
Speaker 1: don't want to lose no opportunity racism might stop me.
2:11:18
Speaker 1: Racil still might stop me, but least it's allowed me
2:11:21
Speaker 1: the opportunity to recognize myself and be proud of the
2:11:24
Speaker 1: fact that I'm a black man by purchasing the building,
2:11:27
Speaker 1: employing people paying taxes, paying taxes in this country. And
2:11:31
Speaker 1: that's important. And so when I I shifted that because
2:11:35
Speaker 1: three things I want to close out talking to you
2:11:36
Speaker 1: about is the fact that you know, black lives matter.
2:11:40
Speaker 1: I want to talk about COVID and eighteen and your
2:11:42
Speaker 1: work with Barack Obama. So where do you want to start?
2:11:48
Speaker 1: My lives matters? You know, I got you know, we're
2:11:49
Speaker 1: gonna go in there on the Black lives matter. You're right,
2:11:53
Speaker 1: Black lives do matter, and they've always mattered. Like the said,
2:11:58
Speaker 1: black lives built this country. You know, we are our
2:12:01
Speaker 1: forefathers were the hands that built the White House, where
2:12:06
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama famously says, you know, she thought about that
2:12:09
Speaker 1: every time that she was there as our first lady,
2:12:12
Speaker 1: that black slaves built this house. You know. So black
2:12:16
Speaker 1: lives matter and they've always mattered. And I'm happy to
2:12:19
Speaker 1: say that we can say that unapologetically, and I'm glad
2:12:23
Speaker 1: that that movement stayed with it and became not just
2:12:27
Speaker 1: a movement but the opportunity to make black lives understand
2:12:31
Speaker 1: that they matter, because us saying that to everybody else
2:12:34
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if we don't feel it ourselves. And so
2:12:37
Speaker 1: the way that black lives turned out at the polls
2:12:40
Speaker 1: this year and they can see the impact of it
2:12:43
Speaker 1: is so important to understanding that black lives matter and
2:12:46
Speaker 1: that we know black as black lives that we matter.
2:12:50
Speaker 1: And COVID nineteen opened up the door to just show
2:12:54
Speaker 1: that moment that how black lives have been disparity, the disparity,
2:13:00
Speaker 1: and the impact that we've had in all the bad areas,
2:13:04
Speaker 1: you know, health disparity, wealth disparity, education disparity. I mean,
2:13:08
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on and on. All COVID
2:13:10
Speaker 1: did was give a moment that stopped the world to
2:13:15
Speaker 1: see a pandemic, to see how it's disapproportionately impacting the
2:13:20
Speaker 1: Black lives that are dying at you know, huge numbers
2:13:24
Speaker 1: from this disease. At the same time, opened up a
2:13:27
Speaker 1: door with the moment with George Floyd to see how
2:13:31
Speaker 1: racive and reasonable was impact in our lives as well.
2:13:34
Speaker 1: So even in the midst of a pandemic, God is
2:13:36
Speaker 1: still blessing to reveal things to show how black lives
2:13:41
Speaker 1: do matter and that we know that we matter. And
2:13:45
Speaker 1: your work with former President Barack Obama and President Obama
2:13:49
Speaker 1: and Mrs Obama, I will always say, consistently with the
2:13:54
Speaker 1: most authentic, genuine and amazing human beings, but definitely public
2:14:00
Speaker 1: officials that I've ever seen. And the and the part
2:14:02
Speaker 1: about it was is that they weren't like the bushes
2:14:05
Speaker 1: that were generationally raised to be prepared to be in
2:14:09
Speaker 1: the White House, but they were authentic human beings. Every
2:14:14
Speaker 1: time you saw it, engaged with them, they were the
2:14:16
Speaker 1: same way if whatever you see on TV about them
2:14:19
Speaker 1: is who they are in person, and that says a
2:14:21
Speaker 1: lot about a person. I mean, it's it made me
2:14:24
Speaker 1: even double check me as a person to make sure
2:14:27
Speaker 1: that I'm always operating at my highest level, that if
2:14:30
Speaker 1: I'm always in an opportunity to use a platform to
2:14:34
Speaker 1: help others, that I'm doing the same thing. Just in
2:14:36
Speaker 1: the way that they elevated us as a people, as
2:14:41
Speaker 1: a nation, as an entity, in the way they took
2:14:45
Speaker 1: on the roles and the sacrifice they made for us,
2:14:47
Speaker 1: and they served for eight years in the White House.
2:14:50
Speaker 1: I mean there is no other moment in life that
2:14:54
Speaker 1: you could ever feel that much pride in respect the
2:14:57
Speaker 1: way they opened it up for the world to see
2:15:00
Speaker 1: how we can operate at our best and we know it,
2:15:03
Speaker 1: but to know how they then reflected that in the
2:15:06
Speaker 1: roles that they were in, because they could have come
2:15:08
Speaker 1: in in any way they were, they were presidents, they
2:15:10
Speaker 1: could have been You see how you can act anyway.
2:15:12
Speaker 1: You gotta power, the control, you do whatever you want, right.
2:15:15
Speaker 1: They used that for the good and the betterment of
2:15:18
Speaker 1: all human beings and they continue to do that. So
2:15:22
Speaker 1: just just amazing to have seen in this lifetime that happened.
2:15:26
Speaker 1: It's just a blessing for all of us to see
2:15:29
Speaker 1: uh in our lifetime, which we thought. I know for
2:15:31
Speaker 1: a fact that I thought I I would thought to
2:15:33
Speaker 1: share this story which I remember. I got an opportunity
2:15:35
Speaker 1: to Steve Harvard and I was in the e Read
2:15:38
Speaker 1: Penthouse and they were doing a fundraiser for President of
2:15:42
Speaker 1: the Brock Obama. I remember where jay Z was there,
2:15:44
Speaker 1: Beyonce was there and everything, and and Steve asked me,
2:15:49
Speaker 1: he said, what do you think. I said, he never
2:15:51
Speaker 1: went not with a name like Barack Obama, because I
2:15:54
Speaker 1: didn't feel this country with his race bait bated personality,
2:15:58
Speaker 1: which we've seen so much done during the run of
2:16:01
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm gonna call him Donald Trump because what
2:16:04
Speaker 1: he's done is a president has been a disgrace for
2:16:06
Speaker 1: our country, for me too. And I told my French
2:16:10
Speaker 1: stephen a spirit, I said, man, look, I said, I
2:16:12
Speaker 1: he gotta lose. I can't. I can't get out of
2:16:15
Speaker 1: my I can't go down the street wondering if somebody
2:16:18
Speaker 1: can just drive by me, drive by me and feel
2:16:21
Speaker 1: they have a right to be able to abuse me
2:16:23
Speaker 1: because he's now the president, because he's given the right
2:16:26
Speaker 1: to say that I have no value just but it's
2:16:28
Speaker 1: not about a job. And sometimes when you make money,
2:16:31
Speaker 1: you have to make sacrifices. You know, I'm wanting to
2:16:34
Speaker 1: pay taxes if it's gonna enable a person who has
2:16:36
Speaker 1: less opportunity to me to live a better lifestyle. Because
2:16:39
Speaker 1: we see what's happening now, you know they're playing lives
2:16:42
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2:16:45
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2:16:48
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2:16:50
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2:16:52
Speaker 1: able to say that and dismiss you like that, Ms Scott.
2:16:56
Speaker 1: That lets you know that this country has a long
2:16:58
Speaker 1: path of racism, of discrimination that is beyond just being
2:17:04
Speaker 1: people of color, but just people in general, and it's
2:17:07
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2:17:10
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2:17:14
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