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Overcoming the Odds: Jackson Dunbar, Race Matters in Pain Medicine: How I Made Money, Lost 90lbs. and Thrived in Chronic Pain. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 2: Now, let's give it to business. My guess he's on
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  Speaker 2: the call and I had him on the show before
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  Speaker 2: and it really dealt into chronic pain, mental stress, overcoming
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  Speaker 2: the odds. His name is Jackson Dunbar. He triumphed by
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  Speaker 2: earning a comfortable living after having lost it all. Dumbbar's
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  Speaker 2: committed to creating a new normal life for himself, deliberately
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  Speaker 2: focused on his physical health and strength continue to earn
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  Speaker 2: an income while still in chronic pain and without his knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: was teaching himself and possibly the world a masterclass in survival.
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  Speaker 2: In this book, he gives a first hand account on
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  Speaker 2: how he made money, lost Danty Palce, and thrived in
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  Speaker 2: chronic pain in the financial and health care worlds. Please
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  Speaker 2: welco with the money Making Conversation master class again, the
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  Speaker 2: one and only Jackson Dunbar.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, sir, great? Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 3: having me.
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  Speaker 2: When I invite you and I meet people like you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm being educated, Jackson. I'm being confronted with information I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know about, and I'm just going to share something
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  Speaker 2: I was on vacation. I hurt my knee, Jackson, and
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  Speaker 2: right now it's hurt right now, my left knee, and
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  Speaker 2: so I continue to walk up the heels, I continue
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  Speaker 2: to do everything with my family, and that ice packed it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm dealing with a degree of pain as we speak.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted to get into detail and talk about
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  Speaker 2: the pain that you you were dealing with. I would
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  Speaker 2: like to believe you're dealing with it currently.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I am. I am a chronic pain patient
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  Speaker 3: due to a car accident, chronic paying patient to someone
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  Speaker 3: that's in constant Paine over six months. I've been in
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  Speaker 3: Constant Paine since twenty fifteen. That was when my accident occurred.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I just have to deal with it when you.
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  Speaker 2: Say that now, right now, there's a you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: had pain. I was in the hospital for thirty days.
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  Speaker 2: My lung collapsed, and I remember, I'll share this story
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  Speaker 2: with everybody. I remember when I went into hospital, it
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  Speaker 2: was in an emergency and the doctor pulled back the
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  Speaker 2: curtain and he said, we don't do immediate surgery on you.
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  Speaker 2: You will die. I can always remember that statem when
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  Speaker 2: you said that, because my lung had collapsed so much
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  Speaker 2: that I you know, you know, it's interesting how you're long.
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  Speaker 2: You when it collapsed, it becomes the size of a quarter,
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  Speaker 2: that's how That's how big it was when it collapsed.
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  Speaker 2: And he had to so they had to do so
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  Speaker 2: on me by making an incision or right above my
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  Speaker 2: or along my small ribcage to insert a tube. Well,
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  Speaker 2: guess what, they couldn't dead in anything. I had to
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  Speaker 2: feel the incision. I had to feel the two being
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  Speaker 2: inserted in me and deal with the pain. And I remember, Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: it was just it was a moment where you just
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  Speaker 2: had to deal with it, otherwise the results wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: came out that it would allow me to talk today.
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  Speaker 2: How did you because that was just an incident, but
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  Speaker 2: you're dealing with it twenty four hours a day.
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  Speaker 3: How I think the hard part, and this took a
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  Speaker 3: few years for me, was I was focused on what
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  Speaker 3: I lost. Late the summer before the accident, I ran
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  Speaker 3: the peach tree. I ran the peach tree with my wife, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I used to bike around Thrown Mountain all
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  Speaker 3: the time with my son. So I think the first
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  Speaker 3: three years of this I focused on that, and then
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  Speaker 3: what happened. I started I met a minister and she
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  Speaker 3: told me, hey, why don't you start focusing on the
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  Speaker 3: things you can do? And then and suggested I get therapy,
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  Speaker 3: on which I did. I got to say, if you're chronic,
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  Speaker 3: paying patient and you don't have a good mental health
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  Speaker 3: team that can help you focus on those things that
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  Speaker 3: can keep your focus and moving forward, yeah, you're missing
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  Speaker 3: a great piece of something that's going to make you
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  Speaker 3: healthy long term. So after after I got the tools
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  Speaker 3: in order to figure out how to focus on what
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  Speaker 3: I could do, what I could do for myself, what
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  Speaker 3: I could do for my family, what I could do
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  Speaker 3: for my community. Then it became like any other problem
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  Speaker 3: I was solving business, I myself. I have always been
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  Speaker 3: told I'm I create a problem solver. Problem became Hey,
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  Speaker 3: how do I make How do I make money even
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  Speaker 3: though I can't leave my house? How do I lose
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  Speaker 3: weight even though I'm on pay meds that make me
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  Speaker 3: gain weight? How do I thrive in crime pain even
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  Speaker 3: though I'm on meds that make me suicidal? How do
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  Speaker 3: I deal with the racism that singdemic and pain medacine treatment?
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  Speaker 3: As a middle aged black man who often yeah, even
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  Speaker 3: though eighty percent of the people that die from opiate
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  Speaker 3: overdoses are white men, and when between the ages of
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  Speaker 3: twenty five and thirty two, I'm stereotyped often when I
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  Speaker 3: go in order to get my medications. He's the reason
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  Speaker 3: I wrote my book Race Matters and Pay Medicine, How
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  Speaker 3: I made money, lost ninety pounds and driving from pain.
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  Speaker 2: He was interesting because a lot of sickle cell patients
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  Speaker 2: get stereotype as drug users when they come in and
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  Speaker 2: try to seek drug medication because they know what they're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to get and they know they know why they
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  Speaker 2: should be getting it, and people will call them or
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  Speaker 2: accuse them being drug users, so that a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it is due to the fact because they are people
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  Speaker 2: of color, they are offering the minority community and people
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  Speaker 2: are stereotyping them. So I would have to say that
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  Speaker 2: you oftentimes was a victim of stereotyping.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, even despite the numbers that most of the
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  Speaker 3: people who are dying from this do not look like us.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Now it was something you put out there that
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring back because in twenty twenty, doing
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  Speaker 2: COVID therapy became a rise in the black community, you know,
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  Speaker 2: became a normal part of the conversation, the mental health conversation.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of famous people started confessing their issues, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of athletes started confessing their issues or with mental health,
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  Speaker 2: and they COVID really sent people over the edge. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of relationships were lost during the COVID period due
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  Speaker 2: to mental strain. Now you said the word therapy. Now
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  Speaker 2: with that a word, did you could share publicly with
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  Speaker 2: your friends, with your people that you cared about as
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  Speaker 2: strangers without being looked upon as a person with a problem.
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  Speaker 3: You know what my favorite chapter in this book is
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  Speaker 3: real Black men don't do therapy. And what's funny about
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  Speaker 3: that is that I've ownly well met Atlanta. We're a
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  Speaker 3: group of African American child and adolescent psychiatrists that work
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  Speaker 3: in the Greater Atlanta area. So I'm surrounded by a
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  Speaker 3: psychiatrists and for whatever, and they were telling me, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 3: something's off with you. I think you need therapy. And
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  Speaker 3: I just wasn't hearing it. And it wasn't until what happened.
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  Speaker 3: I was taking my daughter to the hair store. Sally's right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: closed the door in my face. I started yelling at him.
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  Speaker 3: He called me an old man. This old man can
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  Speaker 3: kick it butt, and my daughter was afraid of me.
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  Speaker 2: And he little Jackson, that was you talk about the
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  Speaker 2: old man could kick your butt.
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  Speaker 1: That was you.
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  Speaker 3: And I was in a scooter saying this.
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  Speaker 5: I can imagine that I was in a.
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  Speaker 3: Scooter telling some twenty year old pump okay that could
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  Speaker 3: beat him down. And I had my nine year old
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  Speaker 3: daughter there right right, and she looked at me like
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  Speaker 3: I was crazy. And I came home. I told my wife, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know what you're right, Adam minimal all the work
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  Speaker 3: that I put into at that time. I put a
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  Speaker 3: lot of work into my diet, dropping weight in order
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  Speaker 3: to manage the pain, had to put any work into
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  Speaker 3: my into my mind. So she helped me. If I'm
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  Speaker 3: a therapist that focused in chronic pain, and the psychiatrist
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  Speaker 3: that did as well, and the psychiatrist wasn't saving grace
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  Speaker 3: because what she was able to do was lay out
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  Speaker 3: all my meds. At this time, the pain doctor was
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  Speaker 3: giving me meds, the PCP was giving me meds, the
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  Speaker 3: neurologist was getting I was getting meds from everybody, but
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  Speaker 3: there was no one serving as as a quarterback, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to basically say, hey, these meds should go here, these
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  Speaker 3: meds shouldn't be here. Whatever psychiatrists did all that, she
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, this is what's making you crazy, it's
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  Speaker 3: making you gang weight. Yeah. So basically she got rid
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  Speaker 3: of some things, auted some mothers, and then finally.
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  Speaker 5: Think right and be myself again.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was almost as if hey, the person
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  Speaker 3: that I was was gone for years and the finally
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  Speaker 3: I could think the way the way I normally did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of people who deal with I
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  Speaker 2: get there. I hear this bipolar you'll says complain about
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  Speaker 2: the meds. They often the time they will drop off
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  Speaker 2: of him, you know, our will downing and his daughter
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  Speaker 2: was bipolar and she committed suicide. And so because of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she got off of meds and because
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  Speaker 2: of that uncomfiden zone, she went into isolation and of
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  Speaker 2: course isolation. So recently I say that we're about to
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  Speaker 2: we're going to go to a break. But when I
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  Speaker 2: come back, I want to talk about your support groups
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  Speaker 2: that got you through it because of the fact that
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  Speaker 2: when you came back home after that incident that your daughter,
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  Speaker 2: so you spoke to your wife and that was an
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  Speaker 2: important conversation because that led you to the better life
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  Speaker 2: that you lived today. We'll be right back for more
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  Speaker 2: money making Conversation talking to mister Jackson Dunbar. We'll be
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  Speaker 2: getting to financial fire financial literacy later on this show,
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  Speaker 2: but more importantly How I Made Money his chapters How
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  Speaker 2: I Made money, lost ninety pounds and thrived in chronic pain.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more money making Conversation.
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  Speaker 2: You know, within the black community, we are you know
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  Speaker 2: we you know last hire first fire lads to get
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  Speaker 2: the information on the financial and end lads to get
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  Speaker 2: information on therapy or shut the responsibility to deny the
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  Speaker 2: gay community within our household, deny. There's age in our
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  Speaker 2: household with such an in denial community that we're in
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  Speaker 2: the end, we are only hurting ourselves by being misinformed
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  Speaker 2: about what we can do. And when you write a
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  Speaker 2: book like this, which I feel is a very very
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  Speaker 2: purposeful book, How I Made Money. You know, it's one
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  Speaker 2: of the chapters in your book, what profit do you
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  Speaker 2: should like investing as a money maker?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think what I did, and I think any
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  Speaker 3: chronic pain patient in my position should do this as well.
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  Speaker 3: Come to the reality that you are limited in what
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  Speaker 3: you can do.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: If you're lucky with the payments, you may have a
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  Speaker 3: few hours of lucidity at best. So the question is
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  Speaker 3: is what's the best way to make money the biggest
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  Speaker 3: bang for the buck in that short amount of time.
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  Speaker 3: And for me, it was investing. Let's see, because of
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  Speaker 3: because I have a lot of great in the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time crunching numbers and analyzing
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  Speaker 3: trends in my career, so I thought, hey, why why
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  Speaker 3: can't I use that for the stock market. So essentially
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  Speaker 3: what I did was, I said, Hey, how much money
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  Speaker 3: could I afford to lose on a trip to Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking hotel, airfare, gambling and whatnot. I'll without losing
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  Speaker 3: any sleep. So I took those funds and I started investing.
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  Speaker 5: I think so.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying, maybe let's give us a number of day.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how what's your trip to Vegas? Are
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  Speaker 2: you on softwares or your first plans on Delta? Do
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  Speaker 2: you roll with a do you roll with an off
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  Speaker 2: strip motel?
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  Speaker 4: Or you on the strip?
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  Speaker 2: You know in Caesar?
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  Speaker 4: Please please let us know.
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  Speaker 2: What is your version of a Vegas trip? Jackson?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So hey, I'm way too over Southwest. I'm blind.
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  Speaker 5: I'm staying at Casons.
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  Speaker 3: There you go when I.
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  Speaker 2: Get there, there you go, there you go, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So so let's say five to ten grand.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, you working there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so five to ten grand and at the
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  Speaker 3: time when I started, interest rates were zero, so everybody
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  Speaker 3: was making money, right, so I figured, hey, I had
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  Speaker 3: more credentials than my financial planner, why not give it
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  Speaker 3: a shot. First month I turned that I what tripled
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  Speaker 3: that money? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Now now then when you say that, now you gotta
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  Speaker 2: slow it down my team, because that's when they get
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  Speaker 2: into this money made conversations massacre. How did you triple
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  Speaker 2: your money? Was it crypto? Because that was a big
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of like the raisee there, Crypto money
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  Speaker 2: get flipped real quick bigcoin? Did you what? What made
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  Speaker 2: you make decisions on? Will you tech? Where were you
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  Speaker 2: at with your money?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Where was I at? Neo? I made most of
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  Speaker 3: that money on Neo, and and I did get on
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  Speaker 3: I did get on bigcoin at four thousand, so TOCI
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  Speaker 3: by accident to this day, if I put that money
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  Speaker 3: on ethereum, yeah, life that would have been life changing.
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  Speaker 3: But bigcoin is one of those things is that you
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  Speaker 3: get on at at a low let's you had a
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  Speaker 3: low cost bashes, leave it alone. You'll time back a
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  Speaker 3: year and bam, there's all this money. That was what
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  Speaker 3: happened to me there at the state At the same time, anything.
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  Speaker 2: You need to stop, Jackson need Do you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying? You hurt my feelings over here? Bam, all
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  Speaker 2: that money, it's some people out there, they're by ready
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  Speaker 2: to commit suicide. Listen to this call. I'm telling you
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  Speaker 2: we're not trying to put people in the stress lane
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  Speaker 2: when you can't say, bam, all that money, that that
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  Speaker 2: that that hurts my feeling. I'm gonna be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: jack that hurts my feeling.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's funny?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? When I started investing, within a month, I went
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  Speaker 3: from my wife leaving the house. I'm on the sofa
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  Speaker 3: in pain. You know how your wife can look at
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  Speaker 3: you if.
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  Speaker 5: You're not working, She's got to go to work, right right, right,
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  Speaker 5: right right. My wife understands the pain I'm in, but
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  Speaker 5: still like, why is this guy on the couch and
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  Speaker 5: I gotta go out? I went from that and a
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  Speaker 5: month too.
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  Speaker 3: Baby, you've had this skill set our whole life and
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  Speaker 3: you never once thought about using it.
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  Speaker 5: And Jackson, Jacks you're funny, she said, baby like that, baby, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And thirty days I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: She went from cutting to evili You rolled around in
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  Speaker 2: the wheelchair the baby. You got a skill set I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know you had. Come on over here, come over here.
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  Speaker 2: Let let's talk.
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  Speaker 5: But that.
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  Speaker 2: But that skill set, you know, God is good in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ways because of the fact that you
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  Speaker 2: took advantage of You could have sat in the corner
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  Speaker 2: and complained, took your drugs, not do therapy and embarrass
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  Speaker 2: your daughter every year on her birthday because you were
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  Speaker 2: mad at the life, because you felt sorry for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because of the fact that you know, right
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  Speaker 2: now my knee hurt, but it's not in chronic pain.
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  Speaker 2: Because right now, when I get up, I'm gonna feel
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  Speaker 2: the pain because my knee is at an angle and
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  Speaker 2: I start to walk, I'm a feeling. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I tend to want to get a clearer understanding if
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  Speaker 2: you could help me and my listeners. What is a
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  Speaker 2: day in the life of a person who's in criminal
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  Speaker 2: pain from when they get up or what they try
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  Speaker 2: to sleep? What is that? And how does that feel?
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  Speaker 2: And how do you how do you how do what's
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  Speaker 2: that day to day out our experience?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well it starts out with you wake up, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: how do I get out of bed? And at least
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  Speaker 3: the amount of pain. Then you go to, okay, how
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  Speaker 3: do I do number one or number two and at
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  Speaker 3: least the amount of pain? Then then it's okay. You
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  Speaker 3: have to remember your meds. And I've been taking the
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  Speaker 3: same mass for years, ship for whatever reason, that time
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  Speaker 3: of the day I always forget. It's always hard to remember,
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  Speaker 3: which means the tape had some for the morning, some
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  Speaker 3: for the afternoon, and then some at night. It takes
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  Speaker 3: about an hour, and kind of groggy from my morning
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  Speaker 3: managed to kick in. Typically I'm on Mama Recliner and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sort of in between let's see, and then all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, bam, I'm lucid, and I'm that way
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  Speaker 3: for the next few hours. That's when that's when I'm trading.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at crypto, I'm looking at crypto based box,
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it. Well here, Karon Hunter had me
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  Speaker 3: on her show. I told her Ribbean, is she it?
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  Speaker 3: I hope she listened to me. Because she did, she
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  Speaker 3: would have more than she would have almost tripled her money.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was straightening her by nine dollars to
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  Speaker 3: share again. I think it's somewhere around twenty five twenty
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: six now, so I so I look at the trends,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and then I told everyone, hey, hey, listen, if you
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: want to trade, find other people who like the trade
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: as well, because what ends up happening is that y'all
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: former community. And I might be a car guy, you
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: might be a commodities guy. You may have them on up.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: That's a crypto guy. Anyway, we're all looking at different
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: aspects of the market, and you may find something that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that makes money, and vice versa.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: So we have a meeting, we discuss all of that, right,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: and then I go about the business of making some money. Afterwards,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the meds were off, the pain becomes sharp. I wait
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: until about four or so to take my afternoon meds.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Then the pain is really bad. I will hopefully make
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: it to the pool swim stretch, and then by around
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: eight nine o'clock I'm just on the floor waiting to
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: take the afternoon meds that will put me to sleep
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: maybe around midnight, and then do it all over again.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you for sharing that that story.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: That's an honest story, and I want you to stick around.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And I want to get back to the financial investing
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: because we only tip tip of the ice, creare. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: want the people understand your value. And also you're in
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the healthcare field as well, correct Jackson.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, psycho psychiatry, child and adult psychiatry.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: We want to talk about that a little bit. But
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: more importantly, I just wanted to talk to my audience
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: for a minute about not only fiscal responsibility, but mental responsibility. Well,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I look at my life, you know, it was really interesting, Jackson.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I will start thinking about what I didn't do in
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: my life. You know, that's a that's a that's a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: place man, where you can wallow and pity. And if
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I had done this, this could have happened. If I'd
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: done this, This could have happened if I'd have went
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: over here, if I wouldn't, And we can never get
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: into that point in our lives and regret what we've done.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We should only was on what we can do and
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: plan a better life, not only for yourself but for
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: your family. And that was one of the primary reasons Jackson.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring you back on the show because
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I felt our interview was fantastic, but I really wanted
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: people hear the sacrifices that your family makes due to
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: this accident related injury that came into your life. You
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: didn't plan on living a life of chronic praining. Like
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you said, you was bike riding, he was done the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Peach Tree five k race, and so you was active.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: But you did not let a negative win in your life.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And that's important and that's part of your motivation. Now
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I would assume correct.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and and when you get I call it
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: the dark and the light side of the force. Okay,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: standing on that dark side, only focus on the things
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: you can't No nothing but misery over there. When you
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: make your life one hundred percent about what can I
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: do to maximize my life in the three or four
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: hours I have a day, You'll be you'll be shocked
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: at just what your mind comes up with. If you
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: have time to be us around or any of this
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: other stuff. You got to get you to get the business.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: And that's how and that's how I focused myself.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Remember this. If you planning a vacation, think about it twice.
• 22:28
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• 22:30
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• 22:32
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