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- 0:45Speaker 1: you will hear today, will provide you, as a consumer
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- 0:51Speaker 1: of those. She's a CEO, she's an entrepreneur, and most importantly,
- 0:54Speaker 1: she's an industry decision maker. My next guest is Laurie
- 0:58Speaker 1: and Gibson. She's an Emmy nominating creative visionary, choreographer, director, producer,
- 1:03Speaker 1: and entrepreneur. Her new book is Dance Your Dance. Eight
- 1:07Speaker 1: Steps to leash your passion and live your dreams. The
- 1:09Speaker 1: book was packed with personal antidotes and messages of empowerment.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Dance Your Dance highlights Gibson's evolution from a young dancer
- 1:17Speaker 1: training in New York City to a well respected, in
- 1:19Speaker 1: demand industry leader with an eye for cultivating music artists
- 1:23Speaker 1: from the ground up. The book unveils the ultimate blueprint
- 1:26Speaker 1: to achieving your dreams, a blueprint she's implemented to develop
- 1:30Speaker 1: some of the world's greatest superstars, including Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj,
- 1:34Speaker 1: Katie Perry, and the Jonas Brothers, among others. Please walking
- 1:38Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversation for the very second time. She's
- 1:40Speaker 1: a good friend of mine to have on this show
- 1:42Speaker 1: and I'm happy to promote her new book. Laurie Anne Gibson,
- 1:45Speaker 1: how are you doing? Ms Gibson, Hi, You're fantastic. Thank
- 1:50Speaker 1: you for having well. First of all, you know, welcome
- 1:52Speaker 1: to my new studio. I want them to happen because
- 1:54Speaker 1: last time we did to be a podcast and we
- 1:56Speaker 1: didn't get to see each other, but you know, life
- 1:59Speaker 1: is changing a good way, and a lot of success
- 2:01Speaker 1: that you've had in despite the COVID nineteen, How did
- 2:04Speaker 1: they det affect your life or the COVID nineteen the pandemic,
- 2:07Speaker 1: and how did that impact you in and pro motivated
- 2:11Speaker 1: you for well? The interesting thing is I was told
- 2:15Speaker 1: when it was first happening that creatives would excel, and
- 2:19Speaker 1: I kept hearing this and I kept saying to myself,
- 2:23Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think that's right. You know,
- 2:25Speaker 1: when everything shuts down, when people's idea of what it
- 2:29Speaker 1: takes to make it shifts, that's when we do excel.
- 2:32Speaker 1: And I have the opportunity to really dig into the
- 2:35Speaker 1: book and understand the purpose in the book. So I
- 2:39Speaker 1: was able to take more time to really flush out
- 2:43Speaker 1: my methodology that I used in helping big superstars becoming
- 2:48Speaker 1: their very best, and I was able to inspire it
- 2:52Speaker 1: in eight steps to unleash your passion and live your dream.
- 2:54Speaker 1: So for me, COVID was a blessing. There was an
- 2:58Speaker 1: opportunity to shift and shift and be prepared for what's
- 3:02Speaker 1: ahead of us, and a part of that is shifting
- 3:05Speaker 1: the narrative and creating inspiration and actual transformation and how
- 3:10Speaker 1: people dance their dance and no one else's well, you know,
- 3:14Speaker 1: I definitely want to I want to walk you through
- 3:17Speaker 1: you telling your story. Right. I read the book, enjoyed
- 3:20Speaker 1: the book. I read a lot of motivational book, a
- 3:22Speaker 1: lot of books, said uh, but each book and fascinating.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Read your book because you have to share personal personal angles,
- 3:30Speaker 1: and sometimes you're not happy to share those angles, like
- 3:32Speaker 1: your relationship we had with the the Greek restaurant owner
- 3:35Speaker 1: as a young girl. You you know, you share it
- 3:37Speaker 1: and laid on you realize you's the food. But that's
- 3:40Speaker 1: part of the process. It didn't destroy you. And and
- 3:44Speaker 1: one of the big things that you say, life is
- 3:46Speaker 1: a dance, and I bring that moment up that was
- 3:49Speaker 1: emotionally dark for you. But life is a dance. Explain
- 3:53Speaker 1: why you say life is a dance in your book.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Life is a dance because it's about different rhythms, it's
- 3:59Speaker 1: about different steps that you have to take. And again,
- 4:03Speaker 1: I believe greatness is in the process. It's not overnight,
- 4:07Speaker 1: it's not an insta it's in the process of becoming,
- 4:10Speaker 1: of shedding and receiving and building. So for me. It
- 4:16Speaker 1: was dark, but I was faced with the opportunity to
- 4:19Speaker 1: overcome insecurities. I talked about step four staying in there yet,
- 4:26Speaker 1: so that means to me when I faced the adversity,
- 4:29Speaker 1: when I faced the feeling of being in a position
- 4:33Speaker 1: where I was vulnerable in the relationship with the restaurant owner,
- 4:38Speaker 1: he did approach me in a sexual manner, and I
- 4:41Speaker 1: was uncomfortable that I wasn't ready to receive it. It
- 4:44Speaker 1: didn't align itself with the feeling of my dream, and
- 4:48Speaker 1: I talked about that being a flag, something that redirects
- 4:52Speaker 1: you to what will help cultivate your dance and create
- 4:57Speaker 1: the confidence that you need to sustain what it is
- 5:02Speaker 1: you have to endure in order to live the dream.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Um So it was difficult. When I did the audio
- 5:08Speaker 1: book and I heard myself speaking the experience, I was like,
- 5:14Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna find out things about me,
- 5:17Speaker 1: and for a moment I was like, did I write
- 5:20Speaker 1: this and is this really coming out? Very quickly, I
- 5:24Speaker 1: understood that my passion to connect directly with entrepreneurs and
- 5:29Speaker 1: visionaries as a result of what I went through. It
- 5:33Speaker 1: gave me revelation to write the steps in order for
- 5:36Speaker 1: them to not only be inspirational, but effective that you
- 5:41Speaker 1: could go back to a step when you were faced
- 5:43Speaker 1: with the challenge that would take you out of your dance,
- 5:47Speaker 1: out of your rhythm, and ultimately making it longer for
- 5:51Speaker 1: you to achieve that goal. So it was worth it
- 5:54Speaker 1: in the end because I was able to write a
- 5:56Speaker 1: book that would be effective for visionaries. Of the thing
- 6:00Speaker 1: about it is that it's effective in a lot of
- 6:02Speaker 1: ways because you have to be honest with these books.
- 6:04Speaker 1: I always I hate reading books to tell you how
- 6:07Speaker 1: to be wealthy, but they don't have money in the bank,
- 6:10Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so you can't tell
- 6:12Speaker 1: somebody how to be successful if you can't tell them
- 6:14Speaker 1: how you came out of a dark moment or you
- 6:16Speaker 1: came down from the basis of the mountain to climb
- 6:19Speaker 1: that mountain. And that's what your book is. But throughout
- 6:21Speaker 1: the book, you know, you talk about your dad was Electrician.
- 6:24Speaker 1: You've born in Canada Ja Jamaican immigrants. You know your
- 6:28Speaker 1: mom worked at Zeros, but that wasn't her passion, you know.
- 6:31Speaker 1: And the thing I like about it is that like
- 6:34Speaker 1: your mom's passion was to be a fashion design and
- 6:36Speaker 1: her mom said, no, that just an impossibility. And then
- 6:40Speaker 1: Mr Christopher and dance school, you talk about those dream
- 6:43Speaker 1: killers when and and like you you might hear. Always
- 6:46Speaker 1: tell people you know that leave with your gifts. Don't
- 6:49Speaker 1: let your friends, family members, or your age stop you
- 6:52Speaker 1: from living your dreams or planning your life. I say
- 6:55Speaker 1: that all the time. And that's basically the mantra for
- 6:58Speaker 1: your book. And I love it because of the fact
- 7:00Speaker 1: that a dream killer tried to stop you as a
- 7:03Speaker 1: young dancer because you didn't fit the structure or the
- 7:05Speaker 1: physical structure of a ballerina. Talk about dream killers because
- 7:09Speaker 1: we encountered them, and guess what, they are clothed in
- 7:12Speaker 1: so many different disguises, as loved ones, as children, as
- 7:17Speaker 1: as religious leaders. That's what this book. I got excited
- 7:21Speaker 1: when I started reading that part of because I said,
- 7:23Speaker 1: she gets it, and she's telling the truth exactly. And
- 7:28Speaker 1: I'm very humbled by the fact that you do get it,
- 7:30Speaker 1: because that's very special to me, because that is the goal,
- 7:35Speaker 1: that is the intention, and I think too many people
- 7:40Speaker 1: are afraid to talk about the process, and they're afraid
- 7:44Speaker 1: to let you know that there will be a fight.
- 7:47Speaker 1: There are dream killers, and there is a fight, and
- 7:51Speaker 1: through the fight, once you persevere and you hang onto
- 7:56Speaker 1: the feeling of your dream, it will produce what you
- 7:59Speaker 1: need to endure the time that you need to become
- 8:04Speaker 1: the dream. So a lot of people don't talk about
- 8:09Speaker 1: the dream Killers because there is a lack of conversation
- 8:17Speaker 1: about the fight and about the process. Here's a book
- 8:22Speaker 1: that is unafraid to talk to you while you're in
- 8:25Speaker 1: the process, to celebrate you while you're in the process,
- 8:30Speaker 1: to inspire you to dance your dance and not someone else's,
- 8:34Speaker 1: and that the fight will be there. But it's the
- 8:37Speaker 1: fact that I had to get back up, that I
- 8:39Speaker 1: had to bob and we've dodge and turn, and through
- 8:43Speaker 1: dancing my dance, it created a confidence, a clarity, a
- 8:48Speaker 1: level of perseverance, and a level of clarity that would
- 8:52Speaker 1: enable me to stand strong now at the best and
- 8:57Speaker 1: biggest time of my career. And I think some people
- 9:00Speaker 1: like to just talk about the glossiness. They're afraid to say.
- 9:04Speaker 1: I was curled up in a ball after I got,
- 9:08Speaker 1: you know, in a big fight with Boffy I'm making
- 9:09Speaker 1: the band. I was curled up in the ball after
- 9:11Speaker 1: I left my pop star at the biggest moment in
- 9:14Speaker 1: her career. But it's those moments where I had to
- 9:17Speaker 1: hang on to the feeling of the dream and define
- 9:20Speaker 1: myself by staying in my yes. And so if you're
- 9:24Speaker 1: at the position and the business doesn't look like it's
- 9:26Speaker 1: about to prosper, but you have this feeling of the dream,
- 9:30Speaker 1: then you have to take the opportunity to stay in
- 9:35Speaker 1: your yes and hang onto that dream and go through
- 9:38Speaker 1: the pain, get back up, choose to fight, choose to
- 9:43Speaker 1: train again, choose to take another route. But refused to
- 9:47Speaker 1: give up, refuse to give up. I want the narratives
- 9:51Speaker 1: to change. Refused to give up. Well, Lorien, how do
- 9:54Speaker 1: I do that? I'm facing eviction. Face it. Once you
- 10:00Speaker 1: face it and you acknowledge that your dream is bigger
- 10:03Speaker 1: than the eviction, that the feeling of the dream is
- 10:06Speaker 1: bigger than the eviction. Notice, then you will find a
- 10:10Speaker 1: way out because you've chosen your dance over somebody else's dance,
- 10:16Speaker 1: and so the dream killers are there to force you
- 10:21Speaker 1: to dance your dance. Get it from the visionary perspective.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Why am I facing this? Why did the door close?
- 10:30Speaker 1: It closed? Because that is not in alignment with the
- 10:34Speaker 1: feeling of my dream. That door ultimately wasn't going to
- 10:39Speaker 1: create the greatness in me or produce the greatness in me. Wow.
- 10:45Speaker 1: You know the thing about greatness is a word that's
- 10:48Speaker 1: used a lot now because of the pandemic, the word pivot.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And when you'll read this book, you the queen of pivoting.
- 10:56Speaker 1: You know you are. When you got on that bus
- 10:59Speaker 1: with your teen thousand plus dollars and thirteen thousand was
- 11:03Speaker 1: going to your tuition at an a Lee, you know,
- 11:06Speaker 1: and the rest was going to you don't know where.
- 11:08Speaker 1: That was your pivoting moment because there was no destiny.
- 11:10Speaker 1: But when you got there, you you balanced to pivoty.
- 11:13Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is that, you know, I laugh
- 11:16Speaker 1: at my life because I a lot of terms that
- 11:19Speaker 1: I just naturally did it did in my life. They
- 11:21Speaker 1: are common terms, not branding. Pivoting. You were you know,
- 11:25Speaker 1: uh dream book boards and stuff that people put on
- 11:30Speaker 1: that's you. But you did it naturally. Talker walk us
- 11:33Speaker 1: through those steps, you know, even till the discovering the
- 11:36Speaker 1: world of hip hop, that was a pivot moment for
- 11:38Speaker 1: you. You You didn't come to New York to be a
- 11:40Speaker 1: hipop dancer and so so talk about the power of
- 11:44Speaker 1: pivoty naturally before it became a term that people use
- 11:48Speaker 1: like it's something that was discovered overnight. They just well,
- 11:51Speaker 1: pivoty you when you did it? In this book tells
- 11:53Speaker 1: you how you did it. There weren't at the time
- 11:57Speaker 1: when you were pivoting, they were not. You were doing
- 11:59Speaker 1: it by yourself as a young lady in New York City.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I lived in New York City in eighty nine. I
- 12:04Speaker 1: was there in a D eight. I lived And when
- 12:06Speaker 1: you talk about the railroad apartment, I lived in the
- 12:09Speaker 1: apartment where guess what I looked at the window. The
- 12:11Speaker 1: garbage truck stopped every night, woke me up at three am.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I got right below my window got killed. I can
- 12:17Speaker 1: go shower with ten other people because guess whether there
- 12:19Speaker 1: was a giant shower. So I know exactly the struggle
- 12:23Speaker 1: when you talk about pivoty, you have to do some
- 12:25Speaker 1: things that guess what, dude, you tell the story because
- 12:28Speaker 1: goof what God has allowed you with your faith to
- 12:31Speaker 1: be able to tell this story. But let's talk about
- 12:33Speaker 1: pivoty when it was not something you could read in
- 12:36Speaker 1: the book, that you had to go just on your faith,
- 12:39Speaker 1: your belief in your dreams. Oh my god, that's so
- 12:45Speaker 1: beautiful what you just said, because basically you said it
- 12:49Speaker 1: for me, and I'm so grateful that you have felt
- 12:53Speaker 1: the purpose of the book Evening is a dance moved.
- 12:56Speaker 1: It is changing the direction and headed into a better flow.
- 13:01Speaker 1: I start out in the book talking about step one,
- 13:05Speaker 1: dare to dream. And I used the word dare because
- 13:09Speaker 1: when you're producing something that hasn't been done before, you
- 13:13Speaker 1: won't see it in the world. You won't see the
- 13:17Speaker 1: reflection because you are the very thing that you're looking for.
- 13:22Speaker 1: It's in you. So there isn't dare. There isn't a
- 13:25Speaker 1: risk to dream. But I talked about it early so
- 13:28Speaker 1: we can get it out the way, and so you
- 13:31Speaker 1: can establish a confidence in the passion and in the dream,
- 13:36Speaker 1: so that you can hang onto that feeling when a
- 13:39Speaker 1: pivot hits you. So when I went to New York
- 13:42Speaker 1: and I thought I was studying at alban Elly, and
- 13:45Speaker 1: all of a sudden I went to a hip hop
- 13:47Speaker 1: audition and I began to feel something more and there
- 13:51Speaker 1: was a pivot. But yet I was like, how can
- 13:53Speaker 1: I do hip hop? When I was studying technical dancer,
- 13:56Speaker 1: I thought I was supposed to be at alban Elly.
- 13:58Speaker 1: But in trusting the feeling of the dream, I realized
- 14:02Speaker 1: that I had to pivot because it wasn't just about
- 14:06Speaker 1: dancing his great works. It was about being inspired by
- 14:10Speaker 1: Alvan Elly, J Famis and Katherine Dunham. It was the
- 14:14Speaker 1: fact that when I first saw Ailie, I saw a
- 14:17Speaker 1: man who spoke about tribulation and oppression through dance. I
- 14:23Speaker 1: realized that his work as a visionary was what was
- 14:27Speaker 1: speaking to my purpose, to my soul. It was moving
- 14:31Speaker 1: me towards me understanding how to create movement and artists
- 14:36Speaker 1: that would speak to the circumstance. So the pivot was necessary.
- 14:41Speaker 1: And so the fact that we're even talking about the
- 14:45Speaker 1: pivot from a real place like it's gonna feel uncomfortable.
- 14:50Speaker 1: There will be a moment where you're out there and
- 14:53Speaker 1: you have no confirmation that the pivot is right. But
- 14:57Speaker 1: what you do know is where you were didn't feel
- 15:01Speaker 1: like all you could be, which is why you have
- 15:05Speaker 1: to hang onto the feeling of the dream, because it's
- 15:07Speaker 1: in the pivot that there will be a moment where
- 15:09Speaker 1: you're sustaining evidence of that dream and you're becoming it.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And so to be able to pick up a book
- 15:17Speaker 1: that will give you strength during your pivot or while
- 15:21Speaker 1: you're pivoting. Is key because God gives each enevy, one
- 15:27Speaker 1: of us a different dreams so that we can help
- 15:29Speaker 1: each other to further empower each other, so that we
- 15:34Speaker 1: could live our perfect dreams are individual dreams. So I
- 15:38Speaker 1: think the pivot is not something that's just to be
- 15:41Speaker 1: taken lightly. Oh it's easy. Go ahead and pivot and
- 15:45Speaker 1: don't feel nervous. Go have it and pivot and don't
- 15:48Speaker 1: feel sick in your stomach when you're walking away from
- 15:51Speaker 1: your nine to five to open your own business. No,
- 15:56Speaker 1: understand that those are all flags that are directing you
- 16:00Speaker 1: directly into the dream. And it is scary. You do
- 16:04Speaker 1: have to dare to dream, but you already established that
- 16:07Speaker 1: in step one. So continue to dance because the next
- 16:11Speaker 1: step will present itself. You'll get confident in the idea
- 16:16Speaker 1: that pivoting needs to write the evidence of what you
- 16:19Speaker 1: will become, and it will get easier to dance those pivots. Then,
- 16:23Speaker 1: the thing about it is interesting about your book. I
- 16:26Speaker 1: I I turned Mr Christopher. Every time a dream killer
- 16:30Speaker 1: came in your life, it was Mr Christopher. You know
- 16:32Speaker 1: what I'm saying so too, So be patient with me.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Like the Mr Christopher started way in your life and
- 16:37Speaker 1: you ignored him, and I called the restaurant owner. He's
- 16:40Speaker 1: a Mr Christopher, Okay, the person who who basically parted
- 16:47Speaker 1: you and you missed out on that opportunity in the
- 16:49Speaker 1: Malcolm X movie, that was a Mr Christopher. How do
- 16:52Speaker 1: we recognize the Mr Christopher's in our world because your
- 16:55Speaker 1: book talks about them. We call him dream killers. There
- 16:58Speaker 1: are individuals, these dream killers, and they are people that
- 17:02Speaker 1: sometimes you don't recognize them, but they came into your life.
- 17:05Speaker 1: You didn't let them win. They call emotionals. They were
- 17:10Speaker 1: never physical setbacks because you have your health. They were
- 17:13Speaker 1: emotional moments. Say, but you learn from you talk about
- 17:17Speaker 1: how you learned. But the thing I like consistently about
- 17:20Speaker 1: your book, hard work was never something you ran away
- 17:25Speaker 1: from you. You admitted your thoughts, you admitted your errors,
- 17:30Speaker 1: and you were responsible towards correcting them in another situation.
- 17:35Speaker 1: And just talk about that because I think that's important
- 17:37Speaker 1: because a lot of people, when they make mistakes, Your
- 17:40Speaker 1: book discusses how to overcome or not let that mistake win,
- 17:44Speaker 1: because it's a mistake that we all can make talk
- 17:47Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I call them mishaps. You know, you
- 17:51Speaker 1: follow out the dance, you follow out the eight cap,
- 17:54Speaker 1: but as a result of the falling, something in you
- 17:58Speaker 1: gets louder. The voice of the dream, the feeling of
- 18:02Speaker 1: the dream. Now you're able to hear it because you're
- 18:05Speaker 1: in a misstep. So now you're like, Okay, I'm acknowledging
- 18:09Speaker 1: it as a misstep because I don't feel good making
- 18:12Speaker 1: that decision. I didn't feel good being late. I didn't
- 18:16Speaker 1: feel like what was inside of me was aligning itself
- 18:20Speaker 1: with what Mr Christopher said. He said I couldn't be
- 18:25Speaker 1: a ballerina. My feet were too flat, my back was arched.
- 18:29Speaker 1: He literally said that I wouldn't be a great dancer.
- 18:34Speaker 1: But my dream told me different. The feeling inside of
- 18:36Speaker 1: me told me different, and I hung on to that feeling,
- 18:41Speaker 1: and as a result of me being obedient to that feeling,
- 18:44Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of the work that I needed to
- 18:46Speaker 1: develop that level of ability. I talked about training to
- 18:51Speaker 1: sustain getting as much information as you need to be
- 18:55Speaker 1: able to persevere through a dream killer. It's the raining,
- 19:00Speaker 1: it's the work you put into becoming that sustains you.
- 19:04Speaker 1: When someone doesn't see what it is you're meant to
- 19:08Speaker 1: become because you're the one of the ones. You're a prototype.
- 19:13Speaker 1: So how how was Mr Christopher supposed me? He never
- 19:17Speaker 1: saw a young black girl with that much belief, power
- 19:21Speaker 1: and authority when she danced. He was in a very
- 19:26Speaker 1: ignorant phase of his dance. So I tell those people too,
- 19:31Speaker 1: that our dream killers to get out of their period
- 19:35Speaker 1: of oppression and rejection to the greatness and others, because
- 19:39Speaker 1: they're ruining their own greatness in themselves. But the most
- 19:43Speaker 1: important thing as a visionary is to understand that you
- 19:47Speaker 1: must do the work, you must train get as much
- 19:51Speaker 1: knowledge to sustain the dream killers, because what you carry
- 19:57Speaker 1: maybe something original. You may be a prototype, and in
- 20:01Speaker 1: most cases, everyone's dream is unique to themselves, and we
- 20:05Speaker 1: are all prototypes. We have something you neique to offer,
- 20:09Speaker 1: and in understanding that philosophy and that methodology, you will
- 20:13Speaker 1: be less inclined to design yourself by what someone else
- 20:17Speaker 1: does and begin to embrace the conversation that I'm a prototype.
- 20:22Speaker 1: I gotta dance my dance because what I have to
- 20:24Speaker 1: do hasn't been done the way I'm going to do
- 20:27Speaker 1: it right, right, you know? That you know this this
- 20:30Speaker 1: is no time wherever, time limit here. But I want
- 20:34Speaker 1: to ask you one more question. It's a couple of
- 20:35Speaker 1: things I wish I saw that I had sat a
- 20:38Speaker 1: picture of you and you go with black old cowboy
- 20:40Speaker 1: boots because I'm a Texas boy. So I fell in
- 20:42Speaker 1: love when you went out and thought you had to
- 20:44Speaker 1: help a pair of black cowboy boots. And when you
- 20:46Speaker 1: went for that audition and heavy d and did in
- 20:49Speaker 1: how you change and walk down hip hop se There's
- 20:52Speaker 1: a lot of things that I love about this book.
- 20:54Speaker 1: And the thing I love about this book the most
- 20:56Speaker 1: is that see, fear stops a lot of people. I
- 20:59Speaker 1: always tell people they don't want to change jobs or
- 21:01Speaker 1: they don't want to end relationships. You know, fear could
- 21:04Speaker 1: have stopped you with Lady God God, they keeping nags
- 21:07Speaker 1: to call you, got with Michael Michael Jackson, you was
- 21:10Speaker 1: working with Brandy. These are not these are not trivial
- 21:13Speaker 1: names that are thrown around in the book. They're just
- 21:15Speaker 1: examples to let you let people know that that you
- 21:19Speaker 1: had to make decisions and you couldn't be afraid when
- 21:21Speaker 1: you was making these decisions. And before I wrapped this interview,
- 21:25Speaker 1: I like to if you can just explain to people, yes,
- 21:28Speaker 1: you are afraid, your fear was in you, but faith
- 21:32Speaker 1: got you through that. But talk about that whole process
- 21:35Speaker 1: because a lot of people are stuck at jobs right
- 21:38Speaker 1: now that you quit their relationships they could walk away
- 21:41Speaker 1: from They're living in conditions that they can do better,
- 21:44Speaker 1: like you said, but they refused to figure out a plan.
- 21:47Speaker 1: This book is about a plan and they if they
- 21:49Speaker 1: follow this plan. They realized that this book might have
- 21:53Speaker 1: a lot of famous names in it. Just remove the
- 21:55Speaker 1: famous names and write their names, and the people that
- 21:58Speaker 1: are blocking them are helping them there in this book.
- 22:02Speaker 1: That's why I love this book, miss Gibson, and I
- 22:04Speaker 1: want to thank you for writing it. But before I leave,
- 22:06Speaker 1: if you can expound on overcoming fear when great opportunities
- 22:09Speaker 1: are presenting themselves but you don't know the expectations of
- 22:13Speaker 1: what could happen. You're so awesome. I really am grateful
- 22:18Speaker 1: for you and your guidance and helping me express the
- 22:23Speaker 1: power of this book. So thank you so much for
- 22:26Speaker 1: dancing your dance, but most importantly for being your great self,
- 22:30Speaker 1: because it is blowing me away how much you're helping
- 22:33Speaker 1: people to understand the power of this book. So I'm
- 22:36Speaker 1: so humbled by that. Thank you. I believe and I
- 22:41Speaker 1: know that I wrote this book for the very reason
- 22:45Speaker 1: that if I can speak to your dream, I can
- 22:47Speaker 1: speak to your circumstance. So I know that fear did
- 22:51Speaker 1: not live in me. It lived around me, but faith
- 22:55Speaker 1: lived in me. Once you dare to dream, then the
- 22:57Speaker 1: possibilities of the beautiful power of that dream is about faith,
- 23:03Speaker 1: and faith is in the dream. So very early I
- 23:06Speaker 1: realized that faith was something that was around me, that
- 23:11Speaker 1: was something that was being projected towards me, and that
- 23:17Speaker 1: if I gave it life, if I said yes to it,
- 23:21Speaker 1: then that would actually become something I had to then
- 23:25Speaker 1: experience versus staying in my yes, which is an important
- 23:33Speaker 1: step four. It's a hard step to work because you
- 23:38Speaker 1: have to stay in something that you cannot see. You
- 23:41Speaker 1: have to stay in something that is deeply rooted in
- 23:45Speaker 1: the passion that you feel when you think about your dream,
- 23:51Speaker 1: and in doing so, you choose your dream over the fear.
- 23:55Speaker 1: And now you're saying to life, unfold according to God's plan, Unfold,
- 24:04Speaker 1: according to the plan of my dream, my purpose, and
- 24:07Speaker 1: my destiny unfold according to my dance unfold according to
- 24:13Speaker 1: who I am, And again you choose the dream over
- 24:20Speaker 1: the fear, and suddenly what starts to rise in you
- 24:25Speaker 1: is confirmation and the faith gets you to the next step.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Suddenly the phone rings, You pick up the phone, and
- 24:35Speaker 1: it reflects you staying in your yes and not the
- 24:39Speaker 1: fear of losing, but the faith of winning. So it
- 24:44Speaker 1: is about working the steps. It's not about expecting something
- 24:49Speaker 1: to happen magically overnight. No, it's about understanding when you're
- 24:55Speaker 1: facing it and you refuse to choose it, it's to come.
- 25:01Speaker 1: When when when I had to pay that bill and
- 25:04Speaker 1: I didn't have a job and my grand was due,
- 25:05Speaker 1: I was like, okay, God, where am I? When I
- 25:08Speaker 1: was going to the foreign officer, she was like, you
- 25:10Speaker 1: have to go home. I was in that bathroom on
- 25:12Speaker 1: my knees, like you gave me this dream. I'm gonna
- 25:14Speaker 1: need you to help me understand what I'm gonna have
- 25:17Speaker 1: to say when I go downstairs and they want me
- 25:19Speaker 1: to produce this paper that I don't have. And as
- 25:23Speaker 1: soon as I went downstairs to test me on this
- 25:29Speaker 1: foot path, I got your foot. Okay. I was the
- 25:37Speaker 1: very woman that he expected me to produce a paper
- 25:40Speaker 1: that I did not have, a paper that would send
- 25:43Speaker 1: me home. Got fired. Yes, yes, and they were like, look,
- 25:50Speaker 1: miss Wanton is not here. I need you to go
- 25:52Speaker 1: back to your class. And what did that do? It
- 25:56Speaker 1: brought me time to do what I needed to do
- 25:59Speaker 1: to stay in my dreams. So I talk about these
- 26:03Speaker 1: situations to support another dreamer at that particular junction where
- 26:08Speaker 1: they need evidence of the yes, evidence of someone staying
- 26:11Speaker 1: in there. Yes, not just the celebrating materialistically being bold,
- 26:18Speaker 1: being like braggadocious about what you have. This is not
- 26:22Speaker 1: what this book is about. This is about the coming
- 26:24Speaker 1: which you are. And at certain times I have to
- 26:27Speaker 1: talk about what I don't have and what I didn't have,
- 26:31Speaker 1: so that you can understand the power of staying in
- 26:34Speaker 1: your yes, the power of your dream. So I'm so grateful,
- 26:38Speaker 1: but it is really important, especially now that I speak
- 26:42Speaker 1: to fear being around you, not in you, so that
- 26:46Speaker 1: you can understand how to stay in your yes, which
- 26:49Speaker 1: completely produces the faith and the confidence and the perseverance
- 26:53Speaker 1: you need to get to what you already are. Geez,
- 26:58Speaker 1: Laurie and Gibson dance your dance. She shares numerous inspirational
- 27:01Speaker 1: stories and antidotes, including coming up with dancing with Jenni Loaf,
- 27:04Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, first time meeting Lady Gaga, working with the
- 27:08Speaker 1: late Michael Jackson, the early days of bringing Nicki Minaje
- 27:11Speaker 1: Barbie World to life. A long time collaboration is p
- 27:14Speaker 1: Diddy and You're fantastic. I want to thank you for
- 27:16Speaker 1: taking the time again. I'm supporting this book, Laurie Gibson.
- 27:20Speaker 1: Dance your dance. Thanks for coming on. Money Making Conversation.
- 27:22Speaker 1: You're amazing, you look amazing and one will be awesome
- 27:26Speaker 1: for you because you're blessing us with this book. Thank you.
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- 30:45Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations with your host, Rashaan McDonald.
- 30:50Speaker 1: My nixt guest is Ryan Sir Hand. He's a coach
- 30:53Speaker 1: star Bravo's hit show Million Dollars Listing New York and
- 30:56Speaker 1: the author of the national bestseller Sell It Like Sir Hand.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Ryan May just nine thousand dollars. He talked about it
- 31:02Speaker 1: in this book The first Year in the business twelve years.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Lady averages the billion dollars in sales every year, making
- 31:08Speaker 1: him one of the most successful real estate brokers in
- 31:10Speaker 1: the world. His social media platforms gets the combined average
- 31:13Speaker 1: of three million eyeballs. His real estate company, which launched
- 31:17Speaker 1: in and is the most followed real estate brand in
- 31:20Speaker 1: the world. He was discussing this new book b m E.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Big Money Energy, How to Rule It, Work, Dominated life
- 31:27Speaker 1: and make millions. People who possess b EMMY, which is
- 31:31Speaker 1: big money Energy, get that way because they are committed
- 31:34Speaker 1: to making their vision for themselves and reality, and their
- 31:38Speaker 1: vision is big b I G. Please working to money
- 31:41Speaker 1: Making conversation. He is b m E himself, Ryan, Sir Hud,
- 31:46Speaker 1: How you doing, sir? Pretty good? Let's talk about this
- 31:50Speaker 1: book man. You know, Uh, In some ways I felt
- 31:53Speaker 1: it was like a refresher course for me, which is
- 31:55Speaker 1: really good because sometimes we could get how to be successful,
- 31:59Speaker 1: we could get the journeys and a book like this.
- 32:02Speaker 1: If you don't know, you learned. If you do know,
- 32:05Speaker 1: it really forces the path that you've taken is the
- 32:08Speaker 1: right path? Correct? Correct? You know? I came to New
- 32:13Speaker 1: York City, uh in two thousand six after I graduated school,
- 32:18Speaker 1: and the one thing I always wanted to do was theater.
- 32:22Speaker 1: I wasn't good at too much else. I wasn't good
- 32:24Speaker 1: at school. I wasn't good at sports. My parents really
- 32:28Speaker 1: really pushed me to do both of those things, take
- 32:31Speaker 1: as many different courses as it could, uh, play every
- 32:35Speaker 1: single sport imaginable. But the only thing that I was
- 32:38Speaker 1: kind of okay at was theater. And so I've always
- 32:43Speaker 1: believed that I rather regret the things I did and
- 32:45Speaker 1: the things I never tried. And so I moved to
- 32:48Speaker 1: New York City and gave myself two years. You know,
- 32:51Speaker 1: I've been working odd jobs in the summers and after
- 32:55Speaker 1: school since I was like seven years old. Um. And
- 32:58Speaker 1: so I had a little and the money saved up,
- 33:01Speaker 1: and that was my New York City money, um. And
- 33:04Speaker 1: it lasted me a couple of years. And at that
- 33:07Speaker 1: point I ran out of money in the summer of
- 33:09Speaker 1: two thousand eight, and it was get a job or
- 33:12Speaker 1: move home. Uh. And when I decided to become a
- 33:16Speaker 1: real estate agent, I realized I had no competence as
- 33:19Speaker 1: a real estate agent. Who who Who's going to buy
- 33:22Speaker 1: or rent an apartment from me? I'm not from here.
- 33:24Speaker 1: I was born in Houston, Texas. I grew up a
- 33:27Speaker 1: little bit in Long Island outside Boston. You know, I
- 33:30Speaker 1: bounced around eight times before fourth grade. Um, uh. You know,
- 33:35Speaker 1: I had very, very very low self esteem. Um. And
- 33:38Speaker 1: when you come to a city like New York, you know,
- 33:41Speaker 1: New York is run by New Yorkers, and I definitely
- 33:43Speaker 1: was not a New Yorker. I wasn't I didn't go
- 33:46Speaker 1: to the schools here and I grew up here. Um.
- 33:48Speaker 1: But I saw all these people walking around on the
- 33:51Speaker 1: streets and events who carried themselves with a certain level
- 33:55Speaker 1: of confidence that just proved that they were successful. You know,
- 33:58Speaker 1: the type of person that would walk into a room
- 34:01Speaker 1: and everyone would gravitate towards them. You know, they had
- 34:04Speaker 1: this big magnetic energy and I wanted that. Um uh.
- 34:10Speaker 1: And that's really what this book is. Big Money Energy
- 34:12Speaker 1: is all about how to become the person you want
- 34:16Speaker 1: to become. If you're the type of person who looks
- 34:18Speaker 1: at other people's success and says, why not me? That
- 34:22Speaker 1: was me? That was me? And I used to say
- 34:25Speaker 1: the same thing, and then I figured out how to
- 34:27Speaker 1: get there, and so I put it all into the book. Well,
- 34:30Speaker 1: you know, the thing about the book is that this
- 34:32Speaker 1: is what I really liked. I like the book in
- 34:33Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. Like I've told you, I
- 34:35Speaker 1: love chapter five when you talk about dominating the look
- 34:38Speaker 1: of dominant look. It's important, don't trivia lize to look
- 34:41Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about we first sale was tied
- 34:44Speaker 1: to the look and how you know, how you used
- 34:46Speaker 1: as a manifestation to who you are to day brand
- 34:49Speaker 1: selling you look great? Look at you, you look beautiful.
- 34:51Speaker 1: I cannot read chapter five and not come on an
- 34:55Speaker 1: interview any other way but that this, this had to be.
- 34:58Speaker 1: This is my dominated look. Now I'm gon dominator to
- 35:00Speaker 1: day interviewing you into my dominating style. Now, I love it.
- 35:04Speaker 1: The reason I liked your book was that a lot
- 35:06Speaker 1: of books I read they talk about entrepreneurship, they talk
- 35:08Speaker 1: about small business owner. You're talking about everyday people, how
- 35:12Speaker 1: they can rule it work, how they can rule in
- 35:14Speaker 1: a regular forty all week job. How also they can
- 35:17Speaker 1: turn around by just changing their attitude, by changing their look,
- 35:21Speaker 1: which in turn means they can dominate in life and
- 35:23Speaker 1: make millions. But so many people look at that forty
- 35:25Speaker 1: all week job and treat that that's all they can be,
- 35:28Speaker 1: and not looking at the nuances of what they can
- 35:30Speaker 1: change in their life to be successful. That's why this
- 35:33Speaker 1: book is really a must read book for just everyday
- 35:36Speaker 1: people as well as entrepreneurs. Correct, yeah, no, it's it's
- 35:41Speaker 1: not just for entrepreneurs. Um. And entrepreneurs are people who
- 35:44Speaker 1: don't have forty error a week jobs. They don't have
- 35:47Speaker 1: jobs at all. You know. I I am an entrepreneur,
- 35:49Speaker 1: but I am unemployed. You know, I make money if
- 35:53Speaker 1: I sell a house. That's it. You know, there's no
- 35:55Speaker 1: no one pays me hourly. I don't. I don't have
- 35:57Speaker 1: a monthly retainer. I don't have salaries. Are better fits
- 36:00Speaker 1: for everyone. If I sell a house, I get a
- 36:03Speaker 1: small percentage of that house sale and that's it. Um.
- 36:06Speaker 1: If you have a job that is paying you by
- 36:09Speaker 1: the hour, or you have a salary, you're one step
- 36:12Speaker 1: above any entrepreneur. To be an entrepreneur, you have to
- 36:15Speaker 1: be a little bit crazy because you're basically cutting out
- 36:18Speaker 1: the net. That's the only way I know how to live.
- 36:20Speaker 1: I need to have my back up against a wall
- 36:23Speaker 1: an order for for me to really really fight and
- 36:26Speaker 1: to get as much I want to add a life
- 36:27Speaker 1: as possible. But if you are working that forty hour week, UM,
- 36:33Speaker 1: just know that any of your superior's positions are possible
- 36:36Speaker 1: for you too, you know. And that's what having big
- 36:39Speaker 1: money energy is really really all about is having that
- 36:41Speaker 1: big confident energy to start being the role before you
- 36:45Speaker 1: are the role. Okay, start assuming that position before someone
- 36:51Speaker 1: even has to give it to you. I think so
- 36:52Speaker 1: many people sit and wait and say, well, I'm not
- 36:54Speaker 1: going to do that. I'm not going to know. That's
- 36:56Speaker 1: not my job. That's not my job. That's not my job.
- 36:58Speaker 1: That's if you're the type of person who says that
- 37:00Speaker 1: it's not my job, then then you're not going to
- 37:02Speaker 1: go anywhere anyway. Like I still to this day. If
- 37:06Speaker 1: I got to, I'll go paint and apartments. I'll paint
- 37:09Speaker 1: all our place in microwave. Because nothing is above me.
- 37:12Speaker 1: My job is to get the job done, regardless of
- 37:16Speaker 1: who's doing it. Now. Ideally other people do it, but
- 37:19Speaker 1: if they don't, I'm going to do it. Um So
- 37:22Speaker 1: you can look at the people that are above you
- 37:24Speaker 1: at work, either the better sales people or your manager
- 37:27Speaker 1: or the boss, and know that it's possible for you
- 37:30Speaker 1: to be in that position. You just have to want it,
- 37:33Speaker 1: and then you have to work for it, and then
- 37:35Speaker 1: you have to work into it. We know. The thing
- 37:37Speaker 1: about it is that a lot of people are in
- 37:39Speaker 1: your business the real estate business. But I've never seen
- 37:42Speaker 1: the social media favor that you get in social media
- 37:46Speaker 1: because they're all my guests. I always look at the
- 37:47Speaker 1: social media at the traction follow their feeds. Why do
- 37:50Speaker 1: you think that your followers are so engaged with your brain?
- 37:53Speaker 1: Is because your youth, because of your your tone, your style,
- 37:57Speaker 1: You're confident, you care, you got a swagger about let's
- 38:00Speaker 1: go and right, let's go in bed. You have a
- 38:01Speaker 1: swagger about you and there's a fun swagger. Is that
- 38:04Speaker 1: tied to the fact that you wanted to be an
- 38:05Speaker 1: actor and you and U just like play act in
- 38:08Speaker 1: the world at the success and that's why bame works
- 38:11Speaker 1: for you big money and talk about that. Why why
- 38:14Speaker 1: are you so popularly in social media? Oh man, Well,
- 38:18Speaker 1: I think that's for one. People like real estate. They
- 38:21Speaker 1: like looking at beautiful houses, they like seeing inside wealthy
- 38:25Speaker 1: people's homes, So people follow me for the real estate.
- 38:29Speaker 1: I think to one of the reasons million are listing
- 38:32Speaker 1: works so well as a show is because it is
- 38:35Speaker 1: such a crazy career. Like the fact that you could
- 38:39Speaker 1: live in New York City and sell these insane homes
- 38:43Speaker 1: and deal with these crazy people. That's a that's a
- 38:46Speaker 1: wild job. And so there's like this voyeuristic thing about
- 38:52Speaker 1: following me. You know, what is my life like? My
- 38:55Speaker 1: life is not normal whatsoever, between the filming, the books,
- 38:59Speaker 1: the showing the apartments to houses, the flying around, all
- 39:03Speaker 1: the craziness um. And so I think people like that.
- 39:05Speaker 1: They like being able to take a step back and
- 39:08Speaker 1: and seeing what what what our lifestyles are like. And
- 39:12Speaker 1: I think that I also try to have fun with things.
- 39:15Speaker 1: I don't take myself too seriously. I don't care how
- 39:17Speaker 1: much I sell. Life is way too short. Well that's
- 39:21Speaker 1: what I love about you, you know, because you you
- 39:23Speaker 1: don't take yourself serious, but you're you're shark. You know
- 39:26Speaker 1: that you know how to close. And uh, let's talk
- 39:29Speaker 1: about that whole start, because I want to give away
- 39:31Speaker 1: the book. But this book is kind of like a
- 39:33Speaker 1: journey from you know, becoming a novice who didn't understand
- 39:37Speaker 1: its value and understood and then just a gift from
- 39:41Speaker 1: God fell into your lap and you adjusted to it
- 39:44Speaker 1: and you rose to the occasion. And you kind of
- 39:46Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. A lot of people who who tend
- 39:49Speaker 1: to say I will do that, or is that's not
- 39:51Speaker 1: my cup of tea or nobody, Nobody put that as
- 39:54Speaker 1: my work schedule or my opportunity. That is what you
- 39:58Speaker 1: didn't do. And that's what this book is telling people.
- 40:01Speaker 1: When the opportunity comes to you, don't push it this side,
- 40:04Speaker 1: challenge yourself. This book is a challenge yourself book. And
- 40:07Speaker 1: I am I reading it correctly, Oh yes, thousand percent.
- 40:12Speaker 1: The book is not for people that are going to
- 40:14Speaker 1: read it and then go back to life the same
- 40:17Speaker 1: way they were they were doing it yesterday, right. The
- 40:20Speaker 1: book is for anybody that wants to do better, get
- 40:22Speaker 1: to a place tomorrow that they otherwise wouldn't be today. Right.
- 40:27Speaker 1: The whole idea is, how do you become the person
- 40:30Speaker 1: you're gonna be in ten years tomorrow? How do you
- 40:36Speaker 1: start becoming future you? I think about Ryan all the time.
- 40:42Speaker 1: That's the person who motivates me. That's the person I
- 40:45Speaker 1: look up to is myself, because look at what happened.
- 40:50Speaker 1: We can't control anything, right, we can't predict anything in
- 40:56Speaker 1: life is so so so delicate. I want to make
- 40:59Speaker 1: sure that whatever I do today, it's going to make
- 41:01Speaker 1: my life in nine years awesome, So that that guy
- 41:07Speaker 1: is so successful that he can buy a time machine
- 41:10Speaker 1: go back in time and pat me on the back
- 41:12Speaker 1: today and I'll be like, what's going on? Oh wow,
- 41:15Speaker 1: that's me in the future, so much older now, Like
- 41:18Speaker 1: that's what I want, right, more than anything, you want
- 41:20Speaker 1: to be future year, right, you want that knowledge. But
- 41:23Speaker 1: also when I'm reading your book, here's this's This's the
- 41:26Speaker 1: cool thing about reading your book is that I like
- 41:29Speaker 1: to believe I'm a successful person. Okay, and because of
- 41:32Speaker 1: that success, then I've learned some tricks of the trade.
- 41:35Speaker 1: And to see it written out somebody who follows that
- 41:38Speaker 1: same path, because you're a successful person and a very
- 41:41Speaker 1: successful person by the way, it follows those paths. What
- 41:45Speaker 1: made you say, you know some I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 41:48Speaker 1: reveal this path to millions who could potentially buy this book.
- 41:52Speaker 1: What made you say I want to reveal I want
- 41:54Speaker 1: to help people. Is that part of your DNA? Yeah,
- 41:59Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think it was um. But over
- 42:02Speaker 1: the past couple of years it has become that. You know,
- 42:05Speaker 1: we were we were quarantined, like all of us. I
- 42:08Speaker 1: was in New Hampshire in the woods in the snow,
- 42:12Speaker 1: talking to our our course members. We do a big
- 42:14Speaker 1: online sales course. Talking to my team members, all the
- 42:17Speaker 1: people that work with me UM and talking to fans
- 42:20Speaker 1: and people all over the world, and everyone was so scared.
- 42:24Speaker 1: People were nervous. No one had any idea what the
- 42:26Speaker 1: answers were. We were all in limbo um and people
- 42:29Speaker 1: were being fired and people are being furloughed, and so
- 42:32Speaker 1: many people were connecting their self worth to their income
- 42:38Speaker 1: or lack thereof, to their level of income. And I
- 42:42Speaker 1: remember thinking that way until I stopped thinking that way,
- 42:45Speaker 1: and so I just started writing. You know, with my
- 42:47Speaker 1: first book that kind of happened to say went, and
- 42:49Speaker 1: so I just started writing. And out of those experiences
- 42:52Speaker 1: and those conversations and those talks came big money energy
- 42:55Speaker 1: And how many different ways can there be that I
- 42:58Speaker 1: get back? To get back with money, I get back
- 43:01Speaker 1: with time. I am only successful because New York allows
- 43:05Speaker 1: me to be successful. I'm only successful because I've been
- 43:09Speaker 1: super fortunate. It's super lucky, and I completely understand that.
- 43:14Speaker 1: And so what I know is also another way that
- 43:17Speaker 1: I can get back. It's like, okay, let me put
- 43:19Speaker 1: what I know about how to be successful. Let me
- 43:21Speaker 1: put in a book so people can copy it. Like,
- 43:23Speaker 1: go ahead, just do exactly what I did. Top me
- 43:25Speaker 1: worked for me. It could possibly work for you too.
- 43:29Speaker 1: But if it doesn't, take take the best and leave
- 43:32Speaker 1: the rest right. And you did that, let's talk about
- 43:36Speaker 1: starting the business in which is the pandemic. A lot
- 43:39Speaker 1: of people ran to the wolves, a lot of people
- 43:41Speaker 1: felt sorry for themselves, a lot of people were afraid
- 43:44Speaker 1: to come out of their homes. I know. That's why
- 43:46Speaker 1: I say I love your book because I bought a
- 43:48Speaker 1: building during the pandemic. I'm bet on myself. And like
- 43:52Speaker 1: I said, your book. You know, I don't want to
- 43:55Speaker 1: act like I'm just saying things to make you feel good,
- 43:57Speaker 1: but your book really alliance with a lot of my
- 44:00Speaker 1: easton I bet on myself, And you talk about betting
- 44:03Speaker 1: on yourself, trusting your instincts. And I bought up building
- 44:06Speaker 1: and I had a plan and it has been a
- 44:08Speaker 1: plan that has led me to a tremendous amount of
- 44:10Speaker 1: momentum and led to this new studio that I built
- 44:12Speaker 1: out for myself because I have a plan. And so
- 44:16Speaker 1: talk about betting on yourself, because this book starts out
- 44:20Speaker 1: when you was only making nine thousand dollars a year,
- 44:23Speaker 1: and you start betting yourself, you start taking risks, you
- 44:25Speaker 1: start ignoring what other people said you should do and
- 44:29Speaker 1: did the things you felt you wanted to do, and
- 44:31Speaker 1: someone them surprised you. Yeah, yes, yeah, My whole life
- 44:36Speaker 1: has been a bunch of a bunch of surprises. Um,
- 44:40Speaker 1: good surprises, Ryan good surprises. Okay, yes, good surprises. It's
- 44:45Speaker 1: one of the most important things about finding success, especially
- 44:52Speaker 1: when you don't think that success is for you, because
- 44:56Speaker 1: you think success is reserved for everybody else good looking,
- 45:00Speaker 1: that educated, the well connected, etcetera. Right, understand that that's
- 45:04Speaker 1: all You just have to become an opportunist. You cannot
- 45:08Speaker 1: wait for opportunity. You can't wait for the future. You
- 45:12Speaker 1: need to make the future now. You need to start
- 45:15Speaker 1: creating situations that will create opportunities. You need to start
- 45:20Speaker 1: riding the waves of all your little individual successes and
- 45:24Speaker 1: shouting them from the mountaintops. Remember that people who are
- 45:28Speaker 1: successful only work with other successful people because there's there's
- 45:33Speaker 1: too much risk in working with anyone else. So the
- 45:36Speaker 1: reason I work now with billionaires, helping them buy and
- 45:40Speaker 1: sell property all over the world is because they know
- 45:44Speaker 1: that I've helped other billionaires. They don't even talk to
- 45:47Speaker 1: anyone else now. They just call me because they know
- 45:49Speaker 1: all right, he's been able to figure it out. Other
- 45:52Speaker 1: people have used him. That that's good enough for me, Ryan,
- 45:54Speaker 1: I need there's any dat you know. And so it's
- 45:58Speaker 1: it's that level of just sort of betting on my
- 46:01Speaker 1: own abilities, um and being able to play the game.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Like you already have the money in your pocket, right,
- 46:10Speaker 1: like you already you already want any time you go
- 46:12Speaker 1: into a meeting, any time you go into work, you
- 46:14Speaker 1: already want. You already won the day, right, you've already
- 46:17Speaker 1: been paid. What else can you do? What's gonna separate
- 46:20Speaker 1: you from everybody else? But you know the thing about
- 46:24Speaker 1: it is there now hear what you're saying. And then
- 46:26Speaker 1: you talk about in the book because you play the game,
- 46:29Speaker 1: but you better have your facts together, you better do
- 46:32Speaker 1: your homework. I remember when you, Steve Harvey. I was
- 46:34Speaker 1: sitting down in the meeting in l A and we
- 46:37Speaker 1: met Janet. She's a billionaire, and we were talking about
- 46:40Speaker 1: some deals. And I've always had that gift of being
- 46:43Speaker 1: able to I guess b asked my way up to
- 46:45Speaker 1: a point, and guess what. She called me on it,
- 46:48Speaker 1: and she said, you're telling it, but I know what
- 46:51Speaker 1: you're doing. Stop it. Stop it. At that point on
- 46:54Speaker 1: when I realized and that's that's that moment you have
- 46:57Speaker 1: in your book that you discussed when you got called
- 46:59Speaker 1: on it, when you came in with those generic responses,
- 47:02Speaker 1: you thought you would get away, and he kept digging
- 47:04Speaker 1: into you, going he don't know, he don't know. Talk
- 47:07Speaker 1: about that moment because I don't want people. That's what
- 47:09Speaker 1: I don't want people take away from this book, big
- 47:11Speaker 1: money energy. That you can address a certain way and
- 47:14Speaker 1: you can win. That you can be as your way
- 47:17Speaker 1: with a personality and you can win. That is none
- 47:19Speaker 1: of Ryan's skills. This is a person who does his work.
- 47:23Speaker 1: He's willing to put forth the effort to accomplish the task.
- 47:27Speaker 1: He knows a look, if you're gonna if you're gonna
- 47:29Speaker 1: play with billionaires, don't walk up there like you're about
- 47:31Speaker 1: to cut their yard. That's what he's saying in this book.
- 47:34Speaker 1: And so I remember when when I was reading that
- 47:36Speaker 1: portion of your book about your encounter, it flashed back
- 47:39Speaker 1: to my encounter because all I'm saying, Ryan, is that
- 47:42Speaker 1: in your book, my man, you're hitting so many home
- 47:45Speaker 1: runs with relatable information that people like me and people
- 47:50Speaker 1: who aren't's successful like me. People wh aren't imploying in
- 47:52Speaker 1: for the all week job will take this information and
- 47:55Speaker 1: win with it. And that's all you're saying. Yes, a
- 47:59Speaker 1: thousand percent, everything takes work, but if you put the
- 48:03Speaker 1: work in, the work will take care of you. The
- 48:07Speaker 1: work will make you money, will make you more money,
- 48:09Speaker 1: will allow you to lead a better lifestyle. But you
- 48:12Speaker 1: cannot fake it. This isn't fake it till you make it.
- 48:14Speaker 1: This is why not me. This is being future you. Okay,
- 48:21Speaker 1: there's a very, very very big difference between the two.
- 48:24Speaker 1: Faking it till you make it is what you were
- 48:26Speaker 1: just talking about that I did that once. I sold
- 48:29Speaker 1: one apartment, one home one for just over two million dollars,
- 48:34Speaker 1: and I thought I was the man. I thought I
- 48:37Speaker 1: was the best. I just sold this apart all I do.
- 48:39Speaker 1: I did it with a Chinese investor, buying an apartment
- 48:43Speaker 1: for a baby that wasn't even born yet. I am
- 48:46Speaker 1: the man. And so I got a meeting with a
- 48:49Speaker 1: big developer who sows buildings all over the city. I
- 48:52Speaker 1: was like, wow, dude, I'm it's me. Okay, I just
- 48:56Speaker 1: sold that apartment. I'm gonna go meet with this developer.
- 48:59Speaker 1: Of course, I'm just gonna get this. And I went
- 49:01Speaker 1: in there prepared to crush it, and he started asking
- 49:04Speaker 1: me all these questions about the market, the history of
- 49:07Speaker 1: New York City, what I thought about this developer, that developer, this,
- 49:12Speaker 1: and I froze. I had no idea what he was
- 49:14Speaker 1: talking about. I just thought, you know, he wanted to
- 49:17Speaker 1: meet me, and that, like I was that I didn't
- 49:21Speaker 1: have to do any work. That I was just gonna
- 49:22Speaker 1: go in and use canna say, Ryan, we've got this building.
- 49:24Speaker 1: You know you're a star broker. You just sold that
- 49:26Speaker 1: apartment so that Chinese and pstor you know, what do
- 49:29Speaker 1: you think about our building? Would you like to sell it?
- 49:33Speaker 1: I can't believe that I was so naive, but that
- 49:35Speaker 1: was that was bullet money energy. That was a BS
- 49:39Speaker 1: money energy. Um uh. That that carried me into that meeting.
- 49:44Speaker 1: And when I left, the feedback I got from the
- 49:47Speaker 1: friend who connected us was he basically just said Ryan's
- 49:52Speaker 1: got a lot to learn. Nice kid, though, And that
- 49:57Speaker 1: that was that moment where I was like, Okay, you
- 49:59Speaker 1: know I just messed that up big time. I gotta
- 50:03Speaker 1: fix this going forward. It's all about what you know,
- 50:06Speaker 1: It's all about what you know, you do your homework,
- 50:08Speaker 1: your preparation. That's where the confidence comes from because then
- 50:12Speaker 1: you don't need the experience if you know more than
- 50:14Speaker 1: the next guy. And that's how you're better than the internet,
- 50:17Speaker 1: right for all of us that are selling against the
- 50:19Speaker 1: Internet all day long. Really interesting that that was a
- 50:23Speaker 1: that was a tough meeting for It was a tough meeting,
- 50:24Speaker 1: but that was a meaning that woke you up because
- 50:27Speaker 1: it was two things I took away from that meeting. One,
- 50:29Speaker 1: you didn't you do your homework, but to close your
- 50:31Speaker 1: first deal with Joan, who was pregnant at the time,
- 50:35Speaker 1: by you did your homework. You learned New York. You learned.
- 50:39Speaker 1: You learned that you did one of the great one
- 50:42Speaker 1: of the great moves that I tell people everyway. I say,
- 50:44Speaker 1: if you want to be a star, go make a
- 50:46Speaker 1: consistent appearance of the restaurant loading major d when you
- 50:49Speaker 1: come in there and say hello with Sean. How you
- 50:51Speaker 1: doing those techniques? Like I said, Man, this is one
- 50:55Speaker 1: of my favorite books. Man is gonna be on my
- 50:57Speaker 1: book share because all those things you're talking about un
- 51:00Speaker 1: natural you don't have to pay for. You don't have
- 51:02Speaker 1: to if you're like going out to eat, go to
- 51:04Speaker 1: the restaurant, the same restaurant all the time. Once you
- 51:07Speaker 1: just have a relationship, guess what, they give you the
- 51:09Speaker 1: best table. They'll welcome you in front of a line.
- 51:12Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with being a millionaire. And that's
- 51:14Speaker 1: all I'm saying about. This is everyday people rules. If
- 51:17Speaker 1: you just work in a regular job, you can become
- 51:19Speaker 1: a superstar. You can come to start big money energy
- 51:22Speaker 1: how to rule it, work dominated like and make millions.
- 51:25Speaker 1: That's all you're saying is that everyday people can win
- 51:29Speaker 1: with this book. Am I correct? You are one percent? Correct, sir?
- 51:34Speaker 1: With that being said, why is it so hard to
- 51:36Speaker 1: buy houses? Right there? Why is it? Why is the
- 51:38Speaker 1: real estate market flying off the chart? Why is it
- 51:41Speaker 1: everywhere I look every part of the country, people are
- 51:44Speaker 1: buying homes like they're running out of style. Right, you're
- 51:46Speaker 1: the expert coming, Yeah, because, Uh, in March of um,
- 51:53Speaker 1: the federal governments spent six trillion dollars on what was
- 51:59Speaker 1: effectively at pr campaign for buying new homes. Because there's
- 52:06Speaker 1: nothing like being locked inside your current crappy house to
- 52:12Speaker 1: convince you to go get a new one. And that's
- 52:15Speaker 1: exactly what happened. People, really, listen, this isn't a financial crisis.
- 52:20Speaker 1: Look at the stock market, like I mean, look at
- 52:21Speaker 1: look at bank accounts, look at interest rates. It's like
- 52:24Speaker 1: the greatest buying environments ever. Right. Yes, there was massis unemployment,
- 52:29Speaker 1: but as COVID restrictions lifted, everyone wanted to get back
- 52:32Speaker 1: to work. Right, there's a lot of unemployment because people
- 52:35Speaker 1: actually got fired from jobs they don't like. So they're
- 52:38Speaker 1: they're trying to wait to figure out what exactly they
- 52:40Speaker 1: want to do. A lot of them are getting the
- 52:42Speaker 1: real estate. To be honest, we've seen a lot of
- 52:44Speaker 1: people just joined up to our course. It's been totally crazy.
- 52:48Speaker 1: Um uh you know. And so everyone want to end
- 52:51Speaker 1: decided to buy new homes. And remember we still haven't
- 52:53Speaker 1: totally recovered from the great recession that started in two
- 52:56Speaker 1: thousand eight. Right, the world is we're still in that,
- 53:01Speaker 1: Like we're still trying to figure out how we're crawling
- 53:03Speaker 1: out of that. Like that was a massive collapse. Um
- 53:07Speaker 1: that is, this is a shock wave from and so
- 53:09Speaker 1: a lot of people still haven't upgraded their homes from
- 53:13Speaker 1: prior to two thousand and so now they're doing his
- 53:16Speaker 1: because now they're trapped, you know, and they don't want
- 53:19Speaker 1: to be trappedick again, if there's gonna be a second wave,
- 53:21Speaker 1: a third wave, who knows now its own problem? Uh?
- 53:26Speaker 1: Do they have to that that show is part of
- 53:29Speaker 1: your I guess you want to say brand now, Okay,
- 53:32Speaker 1: what does that for? Nine years? Right? It's part of
- 53:34Speaker 1: your brain? What what is the future do you? What
- 53:37Speaker 1: do you? You just go to uh? And and what
- 53:40Speaker 1: I say that part of your brain is that it
- 53:42Speaker 1: gives you a vehicle to promote who you are and
- 53:46Speaker 1: to validate who you are and also build your company.
- 53:49Speaker 1: And a lot of people, like you said in the
- 53:50Speaker 1: book of your Friend, our friend thought you were crazy
- 53:55Speaker 1: for trying not to be a reality star. Talk about
- 53:58Speaker 1: that friend now and also would be in a reality stuff.
- 54:05Speaker 1: All my friends thought I was crazy, My family thought
- 54:08Speaker 1: I was crazy. Everyone thought I was crazy. I remember
- 54:11Speaker 1: this was two thousand and ten. Reality TV in two
- 54:14Speaker 1: thousand and ten. It wasn't for building a business. It
- 54:17Speaker 1: was for Dog the Bounty Hunter. It was for the
- 54:20Speaker 1: real world American Idol survivor. You know, the Kardashians had
- 54:25Speaker 1: only just started. Like it was you know, it was
- 54:28Speaker 1: kind of you know like that you know, Real Housewives.
- 54:30Speaker 1: It's what Bravo was really known for. Some people are like, oh,
- 54:32Speaker 1: you're gonna go be a male real housewife slinging real estate.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Uh and so, and people said, listen, New York is
- 54:40Speaker 1: a really serious city. It's very serious. It suits like
- 54:43Speaker 1: no one's gonna take you seriously. But listen, I'd only
- 54:45Speaker 1: been in the business for a year. In a year
- 54:48Speaker 1: and a half, I guess, And so I just thought
- 54:51Speaker 1: the more people who knew what I saw, the better.
- 54:53Speaker 1: You know, there's almost eight billion people on this planet.
- 54:55Speaker 1: If I could do a TV show and let people
- 54:57Speaker 1: know I'm selling real estate, that maybe some bit will
- 55:00Speaker 1: call me. And for anyone that doesn't want to work
- 55:02Speaker 1: with me because they're super serious and I'm on a
- 55:05Speaker 1: TV show, Um, I don't want to work that person either.
- 55:08Speaker 1: There's way too many fish in the sea. I'll deal
- 55:10Speaker 1: with my Chinese investors all day long. I don't care
- 55:13Speaker 1: who you are. I'll buy and still real estate with anybody. Um.
- 55:17Speaker 1: Those friends now, I think are proud and I think
- 55:20Speaker 1: everyone's just surprised. It's like anything like a millionar Listening
- 55:23Speaker 1: was not supposed to work out, you know. It was
- 55:25Speaker 1: a spin off show of a franchise. Um uh, just
- 55:31Speaker 1: sort of that people just sort of took to, you know,
- 55:33Speaker 1: and here we are still doing it. It was season nine.
- 55:36Speaker 1: That is what I'm feeling right now. And one of
- 55:38Speaker 1: the studios shooting those interview scenes where we sit there
- 55:41Speaker 1: for the camera and they're like, WHOA really, thank you
- 55:45Speaker 1: that for like hours on Mondays and so I'm here
- 55:47Speaker 1: in between that. So season nine will be out in
- 55:50Speaker 1: the next couple of months, I think, right, your star man,
- 55:53Speaker 1: Just a second time I've gotten a chance the interview.
- 55:55Speaker 1: First time, I didn't have your book. This time I
- 55:57Speaker 1: made sure they got the book to me so I
- 55:58Speaker 1: could read it. Rullior read man, and I'm a fan.
- 56:01Speaker 1: And uh again I'm recommending this and putting into my newsletter,
- 56:05Speaker 1: putting on my social media. I got one point six million.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Eyeball was looking at me. I don't have three million,
- 56:10Speaker 1: but I got enough to believe in the brand of
- 56:12Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald, your brands of success, man. And from a
- 56:15Speaker 1: fellow Houstonian to another Houstonian living in my favorite city,
- 56:19Speaker 1: keep winning, my friend. All right, thank you man, thanks
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- 57:53Speaker 1: and the ad Council. I have two of the biggest
- 57:55Speaker 1: INDI decision makers on my show today. My next two
- 57:58Speaker 1: guests are Many Boom, well known director, and Solomon Onneita Jr.
- 58:04Speaker 1: Bennie Boone is one of the executive producers of Tasmanian Devil,
- 58:07Speaker 1: and Solomon Noneia Junior is the writer and director of
- 58:09Speaker 1: Tasmanian Devil. Here's a little history of my man, Benni Boom.
- 58:12Speaker 1: He's a member of Appli Phi Apple As it Is. Solomon,
- 58:16Speaker 1: he directed a much anticipated two pop cool bio pick out,
- 58:19Speaker 1: All Eyes on Me. He has dominated the television and
- 58:22Speaker 1: streaming platforms. Benny's directed episodes of n c I, s
- 58:26Speaker 1: l A, Black Lightning and All American The Quad and
- 58:29Speaker 1: Tales at bt Lee Daniels Empire on Fox Now. In
- 58:33Speaker 1: August twenty the Tasan Tasmanian Devil earned Solomon Onneita Jr.
- 58:38Speaker 1: The inaugural John Singleton Director Award for the Best First
- 58:41Speaker 1: Feature at the tw twenty American Black Film Festival. Tasmanian
- 58:45Speaker 1: Devil was streaming on all platforms, especially Amazon, iTunes and fandego.
- 58:49Speaker 1: Please welcome to My Man to money making Conversations Bennie
- 58:52Speaker 1: Boone and Solomon Oneita Junior. How you doing, fellas? Are
- 58:56Speaker 1: you doing? Man? I got a couple of apples on
- 58:58Speaker 1: the call right here. I think that's important to say
- 59:05Speaker 1: this because we're talking about the more by pledging and
- 59:08Speaker 1: and if they you know, I've seen a lot of
- 59:11Speaker 1: different versions. Uh, I know, I was fortunate. Uh I
- 59:14Speaker 1: should do sitcoms and I used to. I wrote an
- 59:16Speaker 1: episode with Sister Sister when it was on the air
- 59:19Speaker 1: and we did. Uh my man, Brian McKnight, he was
- 59:22Speaker 1: a starter in the sitcom and we and you know,
- 59:25Speaker 1: when you start talking about fraternitys and sororities, and if
- 59:29Speaker 1: you if you make anybody walking the straight line or
- 59:32Speaker 1: anybody to do something against their will, then no national
- 59:36Speaker 1: branch for turning to mess with you, because that's hazy.
- 59:38Speaker 1: That's you know, if you said walking the straight line,
- 59:41Speaker 1: if they bied out to you and they say yes, sir,
- 59:43Speaker 1: that is a form of hazing. I just want to
- 59:45Speaker 1: explain to people, well why they didn't use a f
- 59:47Speaker 1: I and you can't. That's hazing. And if you acknowledge
- 59:50Speaker 1: that use in a movie, then they can come and
- 59:53Speaker 1: can come back and bite them into some form of
- 59:54Speaker 1: a lawsuit because they can use that where you acknowledge
- 59:57Speaker 1: this portrayal in the movie here. So that's why even
- 59:59Speaker 1: though they members of A five, they can't use it
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: because guess what the images that they're portraying in this movie,
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: which are very realistic by the way. And I'm not
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: saying anything negative because guess what it happened to me
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: when I pledged to make a fire. In fact, it
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: was pretty much worse in certain situation. But you know
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: I have nothing negative about that, Benny and Solomon when
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: I talk about this, because I will tell you this
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: pledge it to makea sat fire. As you probably say,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: pledge in A five, It changed my life, how about you, guys? Uh?
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: For me, a hundred percent changed my life. I pledged
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: spring one at Temple at University Piro. I was a
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: solo pledge, so it was a very very very difficult
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: or deal for me and UM, it definitely changed me
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: from a boy to a man. I was nineteen years
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: old and I had UH, I was a freshman, you
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: know a lot of those things you know that I
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: was grappling with as a young man. I was molded
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: and guided by by my bros, you know, the big
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: bros at the time, and so it really changed life,
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: guided me, matured me really quickly, and I appreciated every
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: single day. You know what I was, what I went
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: through when I was able to make it through. How
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: about you, Solomon? For me, I had a very similar
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: experience with with pledging Alpha fi offa. UM. What I
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: showed in the film is not necessarily my exact experience,
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: you know. I made it a fixtionalized version for entertainment purposes.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: But the lessons and the values that these organizations UH
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: give young men is what I was trying to depict
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: through film. UM. And so the journey that my lead
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: character takes throughout Tasman and Devil, it's something similar that
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: I experienced, you know, gaining self confidence, gaining that brotherhood
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: factor that UH that you know, really propels you to
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: that next phase of your life, especially as a young man.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: We know, it's interesting Benny, you said you played you
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: when you was a freshman. I was a senior when
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: I played So you know, they hit me hard. Why
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: you wat you long? Why you long? Oh dude, trying
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: to pledge all these young people. And but and I
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: say that because I was lost, man, And that's what
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: I see in this movie. Tasmanian Devil was a young
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: man who's loss, trying to find himself. He's from a
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: foreign he's from another country. His mom is back in
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: the country where he's coming from. His dad. I guess
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: it's a disconnect because his dad wasn't with him as
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: he grew up and became a man. And so he
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: comes over here, and the manhood he receives is really
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: from the relationship he creates with these young men in
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: the in the in the fraternity. He's trying to pledge,
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: and I am I reading it right, that's um, that's
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: exactly right. I think that the one thing for me
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: when I read the script. You know, Solomon Uh, Solomon's producer,
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: Trisia Woodard, got the script to me and and my
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: company and we're looking for um producers and financing and
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: stuff like that. And so when I read the script,
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: I was so familiar with the pledge process that that
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: wasn't the first thing that jumped out of me. The
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: first thing that really jumped out of me was the relationship,
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: the father's son relationship in the film, and I felt
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: like reading that script. You know, whenever you read a
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: piece of material, UM, you try to find the commonality
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: of the story that that you think everyone can relate to.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: So everybody can relate to for pledging or hazing, or
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: the Black week life or black colleges, but everybody can
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: relate to their own relationship or dynamic with their mother
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: or father. And to me, that is the strength and
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: the foundation of this film, Um, that relationship that you know,
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: um where where where Diode comes to America thinking that
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: you know, he looked as his dad as a god,
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: you know, and he comes to America and he's falls
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: very short of that. You know, you're also talking about
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: in the film. He's a man of God, he's a
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: missionary and a pastor, and so we have that dynamic
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: of faith um in the film, which is also something
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: that uh, you know, I I'd like to talk about
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: in the film because I think it's an important factor
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: when when in this story, well you know, it was
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: important to me because you know, here's a guy he
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: left his family, right, he left his wife. His wife
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: had to raise a young man, and we all know
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: the dynamics of it importance the men in the boy's life,
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: and he wasn't there in those important formative years. And
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: basically he was the only reason he came to him.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell the story. It was. It was
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: it was kind of like happens that that he actually
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: was in the States to be with his father. But
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: his father explaining me, Solomon, what were you trying to
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: achieve in the in the in the ark of the
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: character with the father, because you're the writer and the director,
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: what were you achieving in that relationship? Because I hear
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: what Benny said, and I'm agreeing with what you're saying, Benny,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: And because my father was a disconnect with me, you know,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: even I loved him to death, you know, and uh,
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: but we were not that type father some relationship. Uh.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: For me, when it came to the father of Tasmane
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: in Devil, Uh, it kind of mirrored my relationship with
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: my father. My my dad is also in the ministry
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: and often and often he would leave to Nigeria to
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: other countries on missionary trips to uh you know, because
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: he he works in um and like radio broadcast and
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: in order to kind of you know, spread the message
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: of Christ. And so I was looking at that when
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: I was when I was growing up, and I was thinking,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: you know, he's leaving his family in order to push
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: the gospel, and so you know, his his attention is
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: being carried away from things that I thought he should have,
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: you know, been at home trying to nurture us as
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: we were coming up, but he was instead doing other things.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: So for me, it's like that was the most interesting
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: part of of of the character for me, because I
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: thought the art there was he puts more value in
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: this out is in this external system of religion versus
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: his own family, and that's what I was trying to portray. Well,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: you know, we're not being you know, you know, I
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: mentioned a different channel as she shows, you've done success
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: in the film industry and then you get a project
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: that comes to your production company, Tasmanian Devil. You know,
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: is it is it the character structure or is the
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: content of what the script brought to the table that
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: really excited you the most? Or we're just the favorite
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: meter ority of the background because you are remember I'm
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: aphro firephon. Well, it was a combination of things. I
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: think part of um, part of our responsibility as uh
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: in these fraternities is something that's important, and I think
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: over the years it has gotten lost on on all
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: of us, you know, not just alpha's, not just cues.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: All of us we've we've sort of we've taken a
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: back seat to what we're supposed to be doing. And
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: what we're supposed to be doing is giving back to
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: the community. UM, we're supposed to reach back and bring
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: other people up. Regardless of what I mean, I would
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: have had this film come to me Solomon not been
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: an alpha and he was you know, a queue or
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: new I would have been involved in the same way
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: because that that wasn't the reason why I UM. What
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: I wanted to do was to be able to help
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: a young man who wanted to be or who is
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: a filmmaker tell his story and not be held back
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: by what happens when you make a studio movie. When
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: producers who've never made a movie before, or never directed
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: or never written have all these notes and ideas and
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: thoughts and all this stuff and it goes against what
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: you want to do creatively, right, So what I what
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: I wanted to do was help shepherd him in this
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: into this industry in a way where his full vision
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: can be achieved. The way he thought about the scenes,
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: the way he wrote the scenes, the way he directed
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: the scenes, or his vision. At the same time, because
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: of the experience I had, I wanted to give him
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: some notes and some ideas, But never was I in
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: a position where I said, Yo, you gotta take these
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: notes or it's gonna be whacked. No. I would offer
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: my ideas to him, some he took something he didn't,
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: and I respected the respect of them both the same way. Um,
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: Because the point of the matter is when you make
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: a film, you have to as the director and writer,
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: you have to live and die by that film. So
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: I was I just wanted him to make sure that
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: he was solid and stood solid on the ground and
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: the decisions that he made. And my whole goal was
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: to be here to support him. And I think it's
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: really important to Solomon that you did have someone who
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: had the fraternal experience, the pledge experience, because I would
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: tell you so Man really enjoyed the movie. I was.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: I smiled because it brought back memories, you know, Zomba trying.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: You know when it was past, you know, when it
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: was greed. It was like, you know I was going through,
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: if I was going through, see it through, I was
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: going it was like you can keep your heading all
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: about your losing theirs and blame it wing you. I'm
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: going who you know, it was like it was. It
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: was the reason I'm excited about it. I wanted to
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: highly recommend this movie is because you know it's a
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: collegiate journey, because you know that people on the outside
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: saw what we experience and then you have the people
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: who experienced it and can share that that that firm believed.
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: But this is why I feel it was important that
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: Benny was part of this, this this bootoo seen in
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: uh process because it didn't go over the top. Nothing
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: in this movie. I went, that's some crap, what are
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: you doing? And we were never do that, dude. It
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: stayed on the level plane field. It didn't go to
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: the extreme because you know where it can go. But
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: it was not nobody's jumping out of a plane, somebody
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: dumping out of a call, somebody robbing the store because
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: they're trying to get something. Everything that was asked in
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: this movie by the young man actually happened to me,
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: or I asked somebody to do it for me when
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: I became a big brother. That's important, Solomon, and I
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: believe it. What's your what's your thoughts on that? Uh? Yeah?
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: I just wanted to show almost like a standard view
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: of what hazen is. I mean a lot of people
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: have seen hazen from other black films like Stump the
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: Yard and Spike Lees movie, so we have a knowledge
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: of hazing already. I didn't want to get too deep into,
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: you know, what different organizations do, because that's not what
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: this is about. You know, I created it. I created
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: a film that's outside of m P a C. So
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: I just wanted to show a generic hazing process or
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: pledging process, to use that as a vehicle to to
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: show what it's like to to enter this organization and
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: then uh comparing, comparing, contrast that to the religious aspects
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: of it and to the you know him trying to
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: assimilate to American culture. Uh So that's why I kept
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: a very surface level. I just showed stuff that people
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: probably already know about hazing or pledging. Well, are you
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: doing someone? I don't want to. I don't sell yourself short. Um,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: it's about an experience. And and you know as a person,
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: and you both you growth air players, you have any
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: players by myself, I played with three other brothers. I
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: players with a fifth one. But we're going to run.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: And he jumped out of the car while I was
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: still moving. So we went down the flour So that's
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: how extreme pledging can beat, you know. And then ran
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: back to the door when he wasn't gonna get out
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: of his bed. I quit. I quit, I'm done. And
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: I know the first day, just sharing some experience. I
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: did get hit on the first day that were the board.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: I got paddled, you know, because my my, my lyon
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: brothers knew. I didn't know them. We're just all pleasure.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: At the same time we're playing cards. They said, look
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: look at me, serious now, however many points y'all lose by,
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: that's a man time, we're gonna hit him. They were
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: really okay. They just the points kept totally. And in
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: my mind, I'm going, are they seriously up a hundred
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: points here? Damn? You know what I'm saying. And and
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: then all real it was a hundred and eighty four
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: points they lost. Come on, Come On Down. And I
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: got hit a hundred and eighty four times on my
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: first day. And I'm not saying that's a badge of courage.
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that in that point of life,
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: you make decisions. And I think that that's what this
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: movie is about. It's a decision making movie. It's a
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: decision about relationships. It's a decision about his dad, this
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: decision to come over there, it's decision how people look
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: at you. When he finally stood up, the homeboard that
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: told him he know started calling him names, and he
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: stood up for him the first time because he found
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: he was soft, because he had a soft tone and
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: he wasn't aggressive. This is a really great movie, Solomon.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: And it's not about the levels that you deliver. It's
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: the story that you're telling. Man. And Viney, I'm sure
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: you played a major role, and I'm and I'm not
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: trying to undersell it. I'm just selling it right. Man.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: I enjoyed. I would watch it again because I watched
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: it this morning. Whenever I do interviews like this, I
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: don't want like to watch a movie three days or
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: four day. I like to watch it the day of.
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: So I got up at four o'clock this morning and
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: I watched the movie and it's entire to the one
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: hour and fifty nine minutes. I know. I watched it
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: and I enjoyed, and I went, wow, this is really
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: good because and the lead character is amazing. That plays
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: d He's amazing. Abraham. Yeah, you know one thing too.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: I want to say, the culture of the cultural aspects
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: of this film are important. And you know when when
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: we made this movie, we didn't. You know, this was
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: pre pandemic, this was pre George Floyd and all these things.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: And I think one interesting factor about it is that
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: um as as Africans in this diaspora of America, we
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: we are finally, I think now, have finally come together
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: as one unit where we can look at each other
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: as real brothers. And I mean, you know, um Russia.
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: You know, we were probably not that far in age,
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: and we grew up in a time where, you know,
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: if you was African or Haitian or Jamaican or something
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: like that, Southern Southern brothers and brother people that grew up.
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: I grew up in Philly, but my parents, my father's
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: from the South, you know, from Virginia, and my mother's
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: from Philly, but she's her parents are from Virginia, North Carolina,
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: so southern roots. And we always looked at Africans or
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: blacks coming from other places and a little weird, a
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: little weird way the way they sounded, the food they
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: ate and all these things. And so this is this
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: film showed. It showed a little bit of that, but
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: it showed the respect factor too. He was like, you're
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: from Africa, right, and he says, you got a four
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: point oh. And I think that right there showed a
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: lot because it changed that little scene changed the dynamic
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: of what African Americans think of Afrikaans, right. And I
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: think that's important given what we are all going through
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: uh in this country right now. And in terms of
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: you know, when when that policeman stopped you, he's not
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: asking you if your parents are from Nigeria or Houston
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: or or Charlotte or you know, or Southfield, Virginia, He's
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: they're looking at the black skin. And I think, now
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: we we uh at a point in in in this um,
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: you know, in this journey of of African people that
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: we all together now you know, we could look at
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: each other and respect each other. It takes a Lloyd
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: took a long time for that, but now we probably
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: you know, we can respect each other when we see
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: each other, you know. Not when I think about this
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: when at four, I remember that scene because they mentioned
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: that four point four point or great point that like
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: three times in the movie. When I took away from that,
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: Solomon and being a would always tell people when you
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: have value, when you create value, then there's a need
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: or want for you, you know, because people wants to
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: be a millionaire, but what's your value? Everybody wants to
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: be active? Can you act? And with more basketball? Can
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: you dribble? You know? Can you show up for practice
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: on time? And to me, that was a strong moment
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: for me, for for just young black people in general,
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: especially black men. If you create value, then there's a want.
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: You create want, then there's a desire to make you
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: part of I'll make you a whole part of something
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: that's bigger. And that's the whole thing about the tas
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: Medon and day of experiences that you know, being our
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: players to make as fire. You know, we had the
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: cute pearls and all that's all these different layers the
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: A K s and all that stuff. I remember the
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: scene when there was at the UC Center. We all
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: know Wednesday. I don't care what campus you on in America,
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: Wednesday noon, Brother, on the campus, that's where you got
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: to be on any camps black, h B, c U, White,
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: Wednesday noon, not Tusday, Thursday, but Wednesday New So I
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: had so many flashbacks in this movie, but it was
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: tied to the realism and the portrayal of the college experience,
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: because you really gave me the college experience, not only
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: from his point of view, for the other young men
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: who wanted to fit in. Because you can agree with this, Ben,
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: and you went to Temple. I went to the University
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: of Houston. So even though it was like we thought
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: it was a lot of black people on campus, it
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: was only liked of us, right, you know what you
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: thought it was. You thought we was like of the campus.
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: You know, do you realize it? Thirty five thousand white
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: people on this campus. We only and but but that's
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: the black experience. But also I remember I became vice
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: president's student body and that was because of the black
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: sperience allowed me to experience that. But truly, I'm talking
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: to you saw the black experience, just talking about what's
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: happened in and seeing what happened to Georgian Floyd, George Floyd,
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: and watching black men talk you know, used in word
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: like they're supposed to us in word on the streets,
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: you know, being comfortable in using that. What was your
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: whole ultimate goal besides being a personal story that you
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: can relate to use a fternity. Remember your dad was
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: in the ministry, did radio some form of entertainment. What
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: was the ultimate journey for the movie Tasmanian Devil, Um
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: with Tasmanian Devil, and also hopefully as I progressed in
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: my career, my goal is to show Black people ask
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: who we truly are. Um, there's a lot of like
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: most of the stuff that that depicts African American culture
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: and film is us having to overcome some type of
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: system or like racism or slavery. Something that is uh,
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: that's something that to fight against. But I just wanted
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: to us living our lives, like doing things that we do.
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: You know. That's that's that's my voice as a filmmaker.
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: That's that's my contribution. I want to make films for
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: black people that that that that's just us existing in
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: our everyday lives and showing the different things we can do,
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: not just having to overcome a white system or being
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: inferior to some other kind of race or something like that.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: So with Tasmanian Devil, that's what I was going for
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: as I created, As I continue to make films, that's
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: what I'll continue to do. So I'm glad that you
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: saw that in Tasmanian Devil, because I hope to do
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: more of it. Hey, man, I believe me. I saw
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: that and more. I saw a talented young man, and
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: I'm so happy that, Benny, you're doing that. You know,
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: Basically I created money making conversation because so many people
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: would ask me to mentor it, you know, and I
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: just can't mentor everybody. So I kind of like use
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: these interviews I'm doing with you guys as a form
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: of mentory. People listened an interview, they grab your experience
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: being they grab your experience Solomon, and it becomes a
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: possibility those nuggage that you guys dropped doing end you
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: Now you talked about script to come your way. You
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: created a production company with a fellow fra trading brother,
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Benny talk tell us about your production company. Well, we
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: have Groundwork Studios, and it's uh, we created myself and
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: Gerald Rawls, who's brother alpha brother from my chapter who
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: I pledged, and we you know, from day one, we
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: always um said that we we have you know, we
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: know that there's something greater that can be done in entertainment.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: So while I was directing videos and having the opportunity
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: to do movies and television, I'm also uh opening myself
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: up to the next voices and the important It's interesting
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: to hear Solomon say that because it's it's funny. This
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: is the first time I'm actually hearing his mission statement
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: funny enough of what he of what he sees himself
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: as a filmmaker, which I think is great because you know,
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: when I was trying to come up and make you know,
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: from transition from music videos to film, the knock was
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: that we didn't want to do anything that was black
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: sub jack matter because it really wasn't popular then, right,
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: So we were trying to fit in, get in somewhere.
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: Um that didn't really happen for me. So the first
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: film I did was Next Day Air, which was the
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: first feature of Mike's Mike EPs and Wood Harris and
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: Ormary Hardwick, which is a very black, very very funny,
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: dark comedy. You know that that kind of dealt with
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: the drug subject matter, and it was very relatable to
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: my life growing up in West Philly in a way. Um.
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: And so that although you know, the film is funny
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: and people talk about it, you know, had I made
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: that film in this climate, it probably would have been
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: received more or better or bigger, you know, something like that,
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: had more interest in it. But it was just very
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: hard at that time to get people interested in black movies.
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: And I'm just so glad that I'm able to sit
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: here now, um, you know, some fifteen years later from
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: that movie almost and be able to help a young
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: filmmaker tell his story the way that he wants to
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: tell it to too, and give it to the world,
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: and and the other great thing. Um, and it's not great,
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: But something that's come out of COVID is that we
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: don't we don't have to be hampered by the idea
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: of um of what you call on theaters of theatrical release.
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: And so we can put this film out and give
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: it to the audience without having to go through the
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: trades and say, oh man, we only made you know,
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: three million the first weekend or two million the first
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: week those kind of things. That is which I'm really
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: happy about. We can actually actually service the audience with
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: a great movie and not be worried about, um, what
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: the perception is of it based on how many people
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: saw it the first weekend. Well, you know exactly what
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: it was. What I'm saying, we said all eyes on me.
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: It was considered a black movie. It was only basically
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: domestically released. It was limited released into foreign selected markets
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: maybe England, the Caribbean, maybe South Africa, or Africa in general.
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: Where this movie when it's released February nine, it's gonna
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: be on the entire it's worldwide release. That's that's what
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: I really love about streaming. I'm glad you brought that
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: up because our champions streaming, especially when it comes to
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: black products, because we're not limited to what somebody says
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: we should be seen by only these people really want
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: to see your movie. Now. People are everybody seeing your movies.
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: And that's important because it's premiering on Amazon, it's premiering
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: on that tune and these are international platform Fandango, Google
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: Play Off the Horizon. That is the beauty of why
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I was a part of
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: this interview. You know, I'm gonna put it all my
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: social media, I'm gonna put it in my newsletter because
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: my man, you know, like Bennie said, you are our future.
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: And I'm not saying being and not ready to die.
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: I'm not saying that solid okay, but you are our future.
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: And it's important that we let you understand. Man. Look,
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: it's a whole different game out there because he's right.
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: You know, Next Day are funny boy. That ended, but
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: they were shooting up everybody that ended, you know, how
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: something the movie it's so, but it was, it was,
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: it was. It was funny Mike Ebs, that's my boy, Harvard, Harvard,
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: all these things, and so it's all about timing. But
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: guess what if that moving back there was released domestically,
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: if every movie is released right now, the options of
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: being able to say I don't like that deal, I'm
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: gonna take that deal over here because I want my
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: product to see be seen by everybody, China, uh, Russia, England, Germany,
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: all of Africa, Italy, you know, Brazil. That's what's gonna
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: happen to your project. That's why I like your project,
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: because you're telling the story to me that's very honest
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: and very relatable. And I just want to say congratulations
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: Mr Writer, Mr Director, and I'm glad you had an
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: EP like Mr Bennie Boone to show you the state
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: truth in your story because your story related was relatable
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: to me, even at my age. You made me smile.
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: That's great. Cool well by, I wanna thank you for
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: coming on the show, Solomon or Nita Jr. I'm sure
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: here you do in the future. Brother, you'll start on
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: the rise. Man, don't stop, man, I appreciate you are
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: coming on some money making conversations. Thank you, Rush. I
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: appreciate the sign. Man, Thank you so much. Hey man,
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: many you know. I know you're gonna have projects in
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: the future. I always know you can come to me. Okay,
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that. Man. All right there, appa
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: appa omega man. We all fraternity to brothers. Okay, Alrighty'll
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- 1:27:13Speaker 1: She's a committed person. Brittany Nicholson pickings the Juice Girl.
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: The Juice cair definitions. When life gives you lemons, you
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: make lemonade or in this case, you get to juicing.
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: She's a food blogger and created eating Anonymous that allows
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: her to review restaurants, and she is a serial entrepreneur.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: She started up and off now she's down in the South.
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: The Juice Girl business offered the variety of products and
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: energize you, boost your immune system, reduced risk of sickness,
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: and increase your fruit and vegetable intake. They all ingredient,
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: all natural ingredient, rich envitamins, minerals and antioxidants. Please welcome
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: to money making Conversation. Brittany Nicholson pickings. Yes, I loved
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: that intro. Well, you know I was struggling for some reason.
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: I'm gon struggling day. I don't know why, but I've
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: I've gotten through the intros. So make sure I have
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: a great interview with you. So I'm looking at this
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: fantastic I'll see some I'm assuming those are juices in
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: front of you. Four tax of juices. I'm asuming right there,
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: what type of juices are they? So, okay, let's just
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: go through it. Okay, consider the wanted all pack. Okay,
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: this one in all pack. I always suggest everybody to
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: take if they want to start um detoxing. That's the
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: first step on detoxing is the water off. Let's stop
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: right there. What's exactly a detoxic detoxing? Basically, it's just
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: gonna cleanse your body, take all the toxins out. So
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: a lot of times we use natural juices. It just
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: right away, like right if your body is not used
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: to eating, help, So it basically flushes your system out,
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: system out. Just I'm talking about shot mcdonaldad because sometimes
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: I feel a little bloated, Like after I came out
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving weekend, I felt a little bloated, detoxed. Okay, cool, okay, cool,
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: okay cool. Definitlybe the times. So let me just go
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: through what we have here. So this is the Green Goddess.
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: This has five fruits and vegetables. It has kale, kiwi, cucumber, lemon,
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: and pineapple. You know, it sounds a little nasty because
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: it has a lot in it, but it tastes very
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: very good. This is the Carrot Paradise. So the care
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: Paradise has pineapple, lemon, and carrots in it. It has
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: the beat berry. The beat berry is a little bit
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: hard to drink because it has ginger in it. It's
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: just it means you're a little harder to drink because
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: it has ginger. And what does gender? What does ginger
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: doing to make it harder to drink? Is it tangy
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: or is it u? Ginger is very strong, especially to
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: ginger that I use. But it has like I think
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: it's ninety two minerals, vitamins and minerals in it. Um
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: it's very very good for your immune system. I love gender.
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: So like this is like one of the ginger shops
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: that I I always that I suggest. It's called of
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: Boost Me Up. Basically has the honey, the lemon, and
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: it also has the ginger in awesome the wheat grass.
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: So the wheat grass has wheat grass and ginger. I've
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: been here about wheat grass, you know, for I remember
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: Steve Harvey used to always drink way back in two
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: thousands when everything wheat grass. Okay, I've tried the wheat grass.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: Now what exactly does the wheat grass do for you?
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: Uh So, basically what a reat grass do for you
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: is it has a lot of vitamin and middles as well,
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: and it definitely helps boost your immune system. A lot
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: of things green cleans you out. Like immediately here is
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: the Kickstar. So this one is a little tangy. So
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: if you like citrus, which is oranges which has vitamin C,
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: really like this one. You would like this one. And
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: it has oranges, lemons and then also pineapple juice in
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: it fresh pineapple, um fresh. I use a lot of
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: fresh pineapple, you know people. So one thing about my
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: business is I customize your juices. So I want pineapple,
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: I won't put pineapple if you do not want If
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: you want more ginger, just say in the notes I
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: want more ginger. You just let me know and I'll
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: make it how you are. Okay. So if I wanted
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: just so, you show me four juices. If I wanted
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: juice number one and juice number four of what you
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: presented to us, I can just order those. Yes, so
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: everything you can order one of one M minimum order
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: for delivery. So I out here in Atlanta, I have
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: a delivery service. Okay. I make sure I come to
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: your door and I drop off your juices. UM. Minimum
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: to juices per order. Most likely a lot of people.
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: Usually these are my top sellers. Artists and the Care
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: Paradise are my top sellers. Um. A lot of people
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: think they're the top sellers. Why do you think there's
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: two of the top sellers, and remind people what they
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: have in them that makes them the top sellers. Um.
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: I think it's because they taste really good and there's
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: a lot of benefits. So this one has five roots
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: and vegetables, and then this one has three, but both
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: of these together. A lot of the time, if people
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: buy them as their detoxing, and they buy them in
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: the gallon. I sell them in the gallon as well.
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: Now there's one detox does that is that considered weight
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: loss when you detox. So also with detoxing is weight loss.
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: So you can lose a few inches to your stomach. Okay,
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: I can always do with that. I'll just let you
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: know that. So if I have to go through the process,
- 1:32:27Speaker 1: how much is each bottle? And if I bought more
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: than one bottle, are there any discounts? So there there
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: aren't any discounts. Some times I do like I'll add
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: it like I should drink shot time. So each juice
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: cost twelve dollars, and when I sell the gallon, the
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: gallon is seventy dollars. So the gallon is like a
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: huge gallon of juice. And it's usually you can you
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: can detox for about a week or two with the GAG.
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: The shelf life is three to five days. So you
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: wouldn't want to get a you wouldn't want to like
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: to get like fifteen bolls. You want to bottom like
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: on a weekly or two week basis right by. So
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: what I'm gonna start within the new year is I'm
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: going to do a membership program where everyone can because
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: they can't described and every week they will get a
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: delivery of juicing. Wow, that's pretty hot. That's pretty hardy.
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about Let's go back down. We
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: know you got the product. How did all this get started?
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: I'm talking to the Brittany. You know, she's the founder.
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: She is the juice girl. She has a fantastic poster
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: of her in the background. She has these roses in
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: front of her. She has four fantastic popular juice drinks
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: in front of her. The first two that she talked about.
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: It just reminded of her popular ones in the Atlanta area.
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: That's where you based. You can deliver that. Okay? What
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: is each bottle? The cost of each bottle? The cost
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: of these fallows swall dollars? Okay, cool? Okay cool. So
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: I if Rushane McDonald said, hey, I finued this interview,
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: I said, look, I want to order two bottles. I
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: can get them delivered to my office today. Yes, you
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: can get them to that. Well, you'll be hearing from
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: me after this call. Perfect. I mean then I also
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: have on my website. I don't want to forget those.
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: I have two other drinks pineapple ginger. And then I
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: also have a it's called a sunrise, was it? Why
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: don't I forget it? A Paradise Sunrise basically has pineapples
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: and strawberry. I use that more so as a refreshing drink.
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: So you can add alcohol if you want to to
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: that one, because a lot of people lying fresh juice,
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: they go healthy and drunk. Healthy drunkness. That's what you
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: picture right there. Brittany on peaches, So I also had peach.
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: It was it was delicious. So like for certain events
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: where they want my juices, I usually add Georgia peach
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: basically had fresh peaches hair, and then it had peach rock.
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: And then you did an Apple crisp and it had
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: fresh apples pineapple in apple's rock. So I do go
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: for like a special of it. Okay, cool. Now I
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: want to come back to the question. I kind of
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: like stumbled over it and was asking how did all
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: this get started? You know, well, you're working a full
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: time job and you quit your four time job talking
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: about what you're doing in part time developments while you're
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: working four times Because I want to tell people, don't
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: quit your four time job. Do you have an option
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: that the job you're going through the opportunity to go
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: into it's real. So talking about hot just let's go
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: through the history of how Juice Girl got started. Okay,
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: So when Juice Carl got started. UM, so background story.
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: In February, my mother passed away. I'm sorry to hear
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: that my mother passed away. And I was working a
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: full time job as executive assistant for a CEO of
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: a global manufacturing company. Looking in corporate. I've been working
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: in corporate for about fifteen years, and I all of
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: a sudden decided what am I here in New York for, Like,
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: I need to start a new life. I want to move.
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: So I decided to move to Atlanta. I feel like
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunities out here in Atlanta and
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: it's more progressive for you know us and um and
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: I love to see I just love to see so
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: many black entrepreneurs and like, let's let's just go and
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: only child. I don't have any kids, so I said,
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: let's go. So I moved to Atlanta in July and
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: I started the Juice Girl literally in July or more
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: towards August, and I was just like, okay, let's go.
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: So I've already did always did the food blogging for
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: the longest on my charge for food blocks. On my blog,
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: it's called Eating Underscore Anonymous, and basically I travel around
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: different cities and give you a real reactions for reviews
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: to different restaurants and what's good in their on their
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: menu and stuff like that. So then I just said, hey,
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: we're in during a pandemic. One thing, I realized a
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: lot of restaurants were closed. The only thing that I
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: really see that was open were juice places. I was
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: just like, this is something we need to boost our
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: immune system. Is mainly boosting your immune system with a
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: lot of fruit and vegetable intake. All my juices have
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: all fruits, all vegetables, no water added. A lot of
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: businesses put water in their juices and they're not a natural.
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: A lot of business don't you put sea moss and
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: their juices. All my juices have sea moss. That's why
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: the prices at twelve dollars. So I just I just
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: started it and I just decided let's go with it.
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: And it's actually been going and I'm excited. They're just
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: starting your kitchen. You start in a lab. How did
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: this just start in my kitchen. I started actually in
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: this kitchen. Actually I started in this kitchen and then
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: now I just brand a space in a shared kitchen
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: to make all my juices. Okay, so you make your juices,
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: are you you've not gotten to a distributor yet or
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: the trash. The next step within the new year is
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: UM I have a manufacturing working on my UM ingredients
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: to perfect my juices. Because what the next step is.
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: I wanted to be in Hopefoods, So I'm going to
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: change the label and everything like that and hopefully within
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: January Febora and hopefully. Let's just so not that's about
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: that's about marketing in Brandon, getting up your volume of
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: sales and things like that. But it's something you're saying.
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: It's very important. We all know when the COVID right now,
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and it a virtually affects overtly affects the
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: African American community of people of color. And you you
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: decided to launch Okay, what made you? I know your
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: fact you, Sery Shane. I saw juice places open up
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: there and it's good for your immune system. But that's
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: a degree of fear. That's a degree of unknown. What
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: made you the step path, the fear and the unknown.
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: I'm fearless. One of those people is like, let's just
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: let's just go and I know what's you know? So
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: a lot of the times, a lot of one thing,
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: I've realized a lot of people aren't. You don't know
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: about juicing. They don't know the benefits. They don't know
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: about sea moss, they don't know about ginger, they don't
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: know about health. You know, it's important, not even just
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: boosting your immune system is important to start eating right.
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: Once we get a certain age, we have to change
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: our eating habits. We really have to eat differently. These
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: you won't even think. This green juice right here can
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: make clean out your system, get rid of the toxins,
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: and just make you feel a lot better. So if
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: you drink this juice, you take a vitamin daily vitamin
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: they has mass in it. You should you should be okay.
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: You know, the COVID thing is very very serious. It's
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: it's not it's not even a game. Um. Getting a
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: cold or getting the flu is serious, very serious as well,
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: because then it changed, it goes into pneumonia. It's just
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: like all these different steps we need to you know,
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: chop out. You know, we avoid, we need to void.
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: So it's really important to really just really realize, Hey,
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: this this is real. We need to boostar immune systems.
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: We need to either if taking sea moss every day
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: if you don't want to juice. So another thing is there.
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: In the new year, I'm going to have like a
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: twenty dollar subscription. Every week, I'm gonna come out with
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: a new juice, the new ingredient. I'm gonna show everybody
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: how to juice because a lot of people are like,
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: they don't think it's a necessity. They don't think it's important.
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, I have a juice at home.
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: I could juice. Yeah, I juice. A lot of people go, oh, yeah,
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: I juice. I choose, but then they try my juice
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: and they're like, wait, this is good. I'm like, but
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: what did you put in it? I'm like, hey, hold on.
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: In the year, I'm going to have a system where
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: you guys can subscribe and I can show you how
- 1:40:48Speaker 1: to juice. I'm gonna give you the tools of juicing.
- 1:40:51Speaker 1: Because you're not giving away any secrets, Like McDonald didn't
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: give away these secret songs. You know, so you know
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: it's this is good, this is different because I have
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: a juicer. Look at it, it's brand new. Your boy
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: has never juiced. Okay, in theory, that's why I told you.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: We we finished his interview, I will be calling you
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: because I I like to, because I immediately when ran
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: through my mind was I need to I need to
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: free the toxins in my body. You know, I felt bloated.
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: I actually picked up five pounds over the over the
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: thanks to even holidays, and so I didn't know what
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: to do and so but I also knew that I
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: wanted to flush my system basically what I'm doing with
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: the toxin. And so again, tell everybody again because I
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: want people. Every year, a lot of people hear stuff.
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: In the beginning, they want to, then they forget. They
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: subscribe each one of the four juices that you have
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: on display in your store online. Okay, so everything is
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: based off online. Um. So basically, here is the Cara Paradise.
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: So the care Paradise has carrots, clemming in pineapple. Here
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: is the Green Goddess. The Green Goddess has kal kiwi, cucumber,
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: lemon and pineapple. That's a little bitter than the first
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: one right from a thing the good. They're both good
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: because kale and q comba okay, sale is very bitter,
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: but the pineapple over a pineapple and the lemon just
- 1:42:11Speaker 1: cover it over. You're not even gonna know that. Okay,
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: And those first two you just mentioned are your most
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: popular brands. Most popular, um, A lot of people bodies
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: in the gallon for de tap so the de tacting
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: so basically they can drink the green for breakfast, the
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: orange the carrot for for lunch, and they have like
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: a light sound, have an oatmeal for breakfast. You know,
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: it's just certain things, you know. I even started eating
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: veggie burgers. I don't eat I eat less meat. I
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: love steak though, but I love start eating more like
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: vegetarian plant based pace. But I love the steak, so
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: you know, you gotta cut it down. Like I love
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: Coca Cola, I don't anymore. I use it as I
- 1:42:59Speaker 1: consider it as actual. So when I stay for Christmas,
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: I'm having a Coca Polar just to look in ask
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: and you know, not too much, but I love the
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: taste of it tastes with steak. But now we have
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: the beat berries has freshly pressed beef and it has ginger.
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: And then it also has blueberries and strawberries. You can't
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: take the brulberries and strawberries more so on the beatberry,
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: we just taste strong ginger. This is the only drink
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: that has well. This drink and the ginger pineapple have
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: ginger in it. And I'm gonna tell you a funny
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: story right after this. So then also we have the Kickstart.
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: The Kickstart has it's more the citrus dividing and seed.
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: It has the oranges, the lemon, and the pineapple. So
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: and then the weak Crash that sounds like my favorite
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: right there with the oranges, the lemons and the pineapple.
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: That sounds like my favorite right there, Brittany. It's very
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: very tangy because this this freshly pressed oranges is so
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: like like it wakes me up. So I always tell
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: everybody drink this in the morning as a morning bra.
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: I think I would want that one for sure, for
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: sure that that was because I love oranges, I love pineapples,
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: and I know lemon that's acidic, Like I said that
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: that's acidic right there. That would knock down that sweetness
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: in there. But that's uh, you got three out of four,
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: I'm I'm all over, I got I gotta punch. I
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: want to buy a button of this is considered the
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: one and all past. So this is a three to
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: four day detox. So I always tell everybody the first
- 1:44:33Speaker 1: two days of us trying to detox a body and
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: tell them I want you to drink a juice and
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: a shot all. So basically, once you do your purchase,
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: I give you guys, I send you guys a message
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: telling you exactly what I want you. So, so you
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: gotta send me not only a juice but also a shot. Yes,
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: well you did. Now you got some extra stuff coming
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: on the side here. So I get a juice in
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: the shop per day with this want wanted all pack,
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: you get too shots and you get four juices. Okay, cool?
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: So this shop talking very serious here because I want
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: to get our to day is Monday, okay, so I
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: have I'll be able to do a Tuesday win is
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: the Thursday Friday of this week? Correct, So on Tuesday,
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: I get my package today. Okay, what would I do
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: when I wake up in the morning. So when you
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: wake in the morning, the first juice I want you
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: to drink is the green Okay, I want you to
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: do a green juice, and I want you to do
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: the boost Me up shot because I want us to
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: get your body ready for what's next. So then the
- 1:45:35Speaker 1: second day, I always say the care of Paradise and
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: the weak Grass shot, right okay. Then the third day
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: I always say, in the morning, I want you to
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: drink the Beats. You cannot drink the Beats. You would
- 1:45:48Speaker 1: drink the Bet for breakfast or the Beat for lunch.
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: I do not want you to drink the Beats at
- 1:45:54Speaker 1: night because it will keep you up, okay, but I
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: can still eat normal food. You can still eat normal food.
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: That ginger is very strong. So every so after you're
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: doing that, the fourth day, I want you to drink
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: the Kickstar. Right in between of all the drinking the juice.
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: In the morning, I want you to drink water. I
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: prefer essentia water because it's alkaline. You don't have to
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: have essentia per se, but I want you to drink
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: alkaline water because alkaline helps flesh your body. So so
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: this normal bottom water wouldn't do it. I like alkaline
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: is the piece diff Your pa is different. I'm trust
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: me your pea and cleaning out your kidneys is so
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: much different when you start drinking alkaline water. The only
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: water I drink is either core or essential. Now I
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: drink a lot of water period. I love drinking water,
- 1:46:47Speaker 1: you know. That's a big thing with me, drinking water.
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: And so when I'm looking at this plan you have
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: in place, you know, you got a product. How did
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: you get to the point that you can mix all
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: these together though? And realize that you you know, you know,
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: you know. I got to ask these questions, you know,
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: because you know, just a regular person walking around and
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: all of a sudden you got an idea and you're
- 1:47:07Speaker 1: mixing juices and you got a product line. How did
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: the product line get started? Did you experiment idea? Okay,
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: I was an idea, and then I took myself to
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: the farmer's market. I said, okay, let's buy a bunch
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: of fruits. What goes with what? So at first, when
- 1:47:28Speaker 1: I first it was so funny. It was the construction
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: workers outside of my building. He see me all these
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: bottles and he said, what are you doing? I said,
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: I'm the juice girl. Mind you, I didn't even start
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: the juice girl. I didn't even start it, but I
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: knew once I said it. He said, oh yeah, well
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: when did you juice? When are you ready? I said, Monday,
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: mind you. I didn't have any idea on what was
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: going with what, but I had a plan. So on Monday.
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: So on Sunday I got all these fruits. I started
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: mixing all these fruits. I had all these jugs with
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: different fruits in them. So then I'm like, okay, let's
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: put this with this. Put up one cup. I have
- 1:48:00Speaker 1: muddering cups and everything. I'm measuring everything. I'm just trying
- 1:48:03Speaker 1: to figure out what goes with what. So the first
- 1:48:06Speaker 1: round I put ginger in everything. Obviously, by the way
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: you said that, that wasn't a good move. That wasn't
- 1:48:14Speaker 1: a good move. So then I realized, wait a minute,
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: hold on, we cannot put ginger in everything because it
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: burns like it's burning like it's just it's it's automatically
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: making you go to bathroom. So this is not gonna work. Um,
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: So now I started again. I said, okay, round two,
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: let's try it again. So then I just started mixing
- 1:48:31Speaker 1: with So for me, pineapple is like my natural sugar,
- 1:48:36Speaker 1: so that we'll just take take away the taste for
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: the care and the green and make it taste much better.
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: They mean, it's just something that needs to be basically everything. Okay,
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: because like this boost me up. Shot, if you have
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: a cold, this ginger lemon and honey is going to
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: knock that cold out. You're not You're no longer going
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: to have a cold. So like two or three days
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: of this to three days of a ginger pineapple juice,
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay, you know. I mean it's all natural.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: You have to really start going into the more of
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: the natural route instead it's depending on medicine, you know, absolutely,
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: Now you have to I want to transition a little
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: bit because I know before a wrapper for any of
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: you are we missed. We talked about you being a
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: blogger food blogger, and we talked about that. We all
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: know you're serial entrepreneur out there making juices in your kitchen.
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: Now you also have a uh all purpose seasonal. Rob,
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: tell us about that and how that got started? How
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: did I bring it? Hold on, I gotta gonna get it.
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Okay, Now she's got
- 1:49:40Speaker 1: an all purpose to see, Rob, there's really popular. And
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: now she didn't know I was gonna bring it up
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: obviously now because I'm a I'm a big cook guy,
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: and so I love rubes. I love seasonal. When you
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: p your water all pat, I'll make sure I'll playing
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: a pre person. Let's talk about this all season in row.
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: How did they get started? Oh my god. So I'm
- 1:50:01Speaker 1: a foodie. I love to eat um. I always like
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: seasoning on my food. I like who that has it
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: taste to it. I like to see the seasoning. So
- 1:50:13Speaker 1: that's why I like steak because like during the quarantine
- 1:50:17Speaker 1: on Sundays, I always used to have steak on the
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: groom like it was like my thing, are you are
- 1:50:23Speaker 1: your medium or what type of level of steak person
- 1:50:26Speaker 1: are you? I like it, Christie, so just do me
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: me and well you know you're you're a well done person.
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: I like it burn like burn. Some people get mad
- 1:50:37Speaker 1: at you. You go in the steakhoumes, they get mad
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: at you. They always mad at me when I go
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: to steakhouse. My lamb chops because I like the bird.
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: But I just like the seasoning. I like I like
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: when there's burn and it tastes fresh women on there.
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: So my of purpose seasoning rug basically had a little
- 1:50:54Speaker 1: bit of everything. So every I sold almost eighty bottles
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: already of this. It sells for twenty dollars um. It
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: literally has fresh cilantro garlic. The list goes on and
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: on everything that's in here. I think it's about twenty
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: three ingredients that are in here. Um. I basically came
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: up with this because I said, Hey, I have a
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: food blog. I love to eat. I love steak, I
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: love fish, I love lamb chop, birch steak, birch steak. Okay,
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: every time I'm like, excuse me to make sure burn
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: like that. I work at Burger King, and the people
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: will come through there, they go, okay, run it through that.
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: They've patty through the through a little grillo. No, run
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: it through again. They asked me to run it through
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: four times. They wanted burn, they wanted like crispy, I
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: mean charred, and then she because I just get people
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: a background on steaks. Now you go to a steak place,
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: they really want you to do rare are are a medium.
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: Once you start going past medium, they start frowning on you.
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: When you start using the word well done. They go,
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: while you come here, while you come you just use
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: just cooking all the juices and the flavor out of
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: the meat. So what she says she wants well or
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: done a charge. They look, they go back in the kitchen,
- 1:52:26Speaker 1: go got another one out there? Why she here? Because
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: it just drives all the juices. And I'm not saying
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: nothing wrong with what she does, because you buy, you
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: buy your you have your flavor, you're paying for you
- 1:52:36Speaker 1: get what you want. But that's what they want to steakhouse.
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: They want you to have a rare selection or a
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: medium selection. Once you get past that, they started telling
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: you in the sense that you're you're you're drying the
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: steak out. You you're losing all the juices out of it,
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: and your meat is gonna be dark. And once you
- 1:52:53Speaker 1: get to a dark meat, then you have nothing but
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: just tough meat. And so but you love that every time.
- 1:52:59Speaker 1: I hear it every time. But I just say cool.
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: Before we get on, let's wrap it up, juice girl.
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: We're talking about talking to Brittany about her wonderful success
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: and starting to the kitchen. She moved from up North.
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: Now she's in the Atlanta tearing it up. If you're
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: in the Atlanta area, she can deliver this. If you're
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: buy at least two bottles, bottles of twelve, nine and
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: nine each, right, and we discussed twelve each and then
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: she says a little shot. If you buy the four pack,
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: you get two shots, allow you to She has a
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: system in place that you can win with. I myself,
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald will be investing in her four pack
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: so I can get by two shots. She's gonna throw
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: in a little free ball com from her battle of Rub,
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: so I'm winning twice. She had to go off camera
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: to get the rub to come back on fourteen kitchen
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: start that big, so she got back real quick. Thank
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: you coming on the show. You have a website, Tell
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: us about your website and your social media. So my
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: website on social media is ww dot the Juice Girl
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: Dot Store. Thank you, I appreciate you. If we'ren hear,
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