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Parental Rights vs. Gender Ideology plus First 100 Days Border Update from the White House · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: First up, let me just say it has been a
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  Speaker 2: pleasure to be at the White House doing some interviews
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  Speaker 2: celebrating the firste hundred days of the Trump administration. And
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  Speaker 2: joining us a little bit later is going to be
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  Speaker 2: Tricia McLaughlin. She is going to give us an update
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  Speaker 2: of what's happening when it comes to the border issues.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security, and
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  Speaker 2: she's going to join us to talk about that important issue.
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  Speaker 3: So stay around for that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, before I get to that, I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you about a very important case at the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: It is a case that is getting virtually no attention
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  Speaker 2: right now, and it's a case about parental rights. Do
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  Speaker 2: parents have the right to protect their kids from gender
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  Speaker 2: ideology in public schools? Now, there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different things that have happened in our public schools that
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  Speaker 2: we're now finding out about.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you an example.
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  Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is hearing these oral arguments and Mohammed
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  Speaker 2: versus Haler, and it considers whether religious parents can opt
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  Speaker 2: their young children out of mandatory readings of LGBTQIA story books. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the books in the case, and
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  Speaker 2: it is this what are your words question?
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  Speaker 4: Mark.
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  Speaker 3: My pronouns are like the weather.
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  Speaker 2: The book says, they change depending on how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I just use one set of pronouns, it shows
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  Speaker 2: with one child. Then the next thing it says, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I change my pronouns, and it shows that person changing
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  Speaker 2: clothing to something else. Then it says, sometimes I use
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  Speaker 2: all of the pronouns I can think of. And then
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  Speaker 2: the next page it says, my pronouns are like the weather.
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  Speaker 2: They change depending on how I feel, and that's okay
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  Speaker 2: because they're my words. That is one example of the
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  Speaker 2: books that are being given to your children and grandkids
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  Speaker 2: to indoctrinate them in our public schools. Now, the question
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  Speaker 2: is for parents, should you have the right, based on
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  Speaker 2: your faith to say, hey, this mandatory reading in the
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  Speaker 2: public school is something that I should have the right
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  Speaker 2: to pull my kids out of. Obviously, I believe, of course,
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  Speaker 2: because this is not education, this is LGBTQI in doctrination.
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  Speaker 2: And as the Supreme Court is diving into Mohammad versus
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  Speaker 2: Taylor debating this, if religious parents can skip the story
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  Speaker 2: books for kids. It's a clash of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different issues one faith, two parental rights, and three they
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  Speaker 2: say on the left school inclusivity policies.
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  Speaker 3: And the decision is expected to come down.
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  Speaker 2: This summer before school would go back into session in
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  Speaker 2: the fall. Now, there were some very interesting moments at
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. And this is why I hope you
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  Speaker 2: listen to the show, because I bring you things like
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  Speaker 2: this that no one else is covering. I want to
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  Speaker 2: I want you to listen, and please share this on
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  Speaker 2: social media. All right, share this podcast, this show wherever
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  Speaker 2: you are in social media. And I want you to
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  Speaker 2: listen this exchange between Justice Gorsaic and a lawyer that
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  Speaker 2: is representing a transsexuality pushing Maryland school district.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got the Maryland School District.
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  Speaker 2: They're pushing transsexuality down the throats, mandating the.
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  Speaker 3: Curriculum to these kids.
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  Speaker 2: And the discussion that you're about to hear is about
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  Speaker 2: forcing sexual material on elementary school kids, even three year
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  Speaker 2: old kids. Now, this is a back and forth the
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  Speaker 2: audio from the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 3: Listen carefully, souscorsage.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I understand a few
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  Speaker 4: fact things. And then a law question, what aage do
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  Speaker 4: you in Montgomery County? Teach students normally about human sexuality.
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  Speaker 1: I think that it begins in either fourth or fifth grade,
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  Speaker 1: the human sexuality class, Family Life and Human Sexuality the curriculum.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure.
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  Speaker 4: It starts in fourth or fifth grade. I think, is
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  Speaker 4: there anything you can point us to in the record
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  Speaker 4: on that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so?
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  Speaker 4: Okay. And second, these books are being used in English class.
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  Speaker 1: The division between English class and other things and a
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  Speaker 1: second grade classroom doesn't really exist. You're sort of in
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  Speaker 1: a room with a teacher.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes I appreciate that I went to second grade too,
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  Speaker 4: but it's it's part of the English curriculum that these
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  Speaker 4: books are being used in. That's I thought that was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not fighting the premise. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: saying it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not a math class. It's it's not the human sexuality class.
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  Speaker 1: It's it is certainly not the human sexuality class. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just sort of fighting the premise that there's a neat discimery.
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  Speaker 4: And they're being used in English language instruction at age three,
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  Speaker 4: some of them.
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  Speaker 1: So Pride Puppy was the book that was used for
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  Speaker 1: the pre kindergarten curriculum. That's no longer in the curriculum.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one where they are supposed to look for
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  Speaker 4: the leather and things and bondage things like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's not bomb sex a woman and sex worker, right, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not correct. No thought, gosh, I read it queen.
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  Speaker 1: The leather that they're pointing to is a woman in
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  Speaker 1: a leather jacket and one of the words is drag.
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  Speaker 4: Queen, and they're supposed to look for those.
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  Speaker 1: It is an option at the end of the book.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, And you're you've included these in the English
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  Speaker 4: language curriculum rather than the human sexuality curriculum to influence students.
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  Speaker 4: Is that fair? That's what the district court found.
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  Speaker 1: I think to the extent the district court found that
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  Speaker 1: it was to influence. It was to influence them towards
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  Speaker 1: civility then natural consequence of being exposed whatever, but to
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  Speaker 1: influence them in the manner that I just mentioned.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and responding to parents who are concerned. You agree
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  Speaker 4: that there was some intemperate language used.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that those were respond to parents who
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  Speaker 1: were concerned. This was after the fact for most of
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  Speaker 1: these comments, and this was in a very public setting,
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  Speaker 1: which obviously got heated. And some intemperate comments were used, certainly.
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  Speaker 4: And I wanted to understand your context that you are
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  Speaker 4: giving about the statement that some Muslim families it's unfortunate
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  Speaker 4: that this issue puts some Muslim families on the same
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  Speaker 4: side of an issue as white supremacists and outright bigots,
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  Speaker 4: I think in response to justice. So, Tomayer, you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to give some context to that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I was speaking directly about that comment.
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  Speaker 1: I think that comment was given or was made in June,
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  Speaker 1: which was several months after the decision to withdraw the
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  Speaker 1: opt outs was made. I don't have context for that
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  Speaker 1: savement now, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And then the legal question, why isn't discrimination against religion
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  Speaker 4: a burden on religion? If a state, now this is hypothetical,
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  Speaker 4: not moving away from there, if state actors intentionally discriminate
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  Speaker 4: against religion, what secular purpose, valid secular purpose could that serve?
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  Speaker 4: And how how wouldn't that be a burden?
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, it depends on the
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  Speaker 1: hypothetical what the state is doing and whether there's a
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  Speaker 1: secular purpose that's hard to imagine one. But if this
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  Speaker 1: state is discriminating.
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  Speaker 4: Against Muslims or Catholics or Protestants or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I think this court has recognized that when an enactment
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  Speaker 1: that discriminates on its face, or has recognized with respect
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  Speaker 1: to an enactment that discriminates on its face, it is
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  Speaker 1: intrinsically coercive. That's how the Court has performed the burden inquiry.
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  Speaker 1: If you are privileging one religion over another, you are
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  Speaker 1: coercing people to subscribe to that particular set of beliefs
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  Speaker 1: in order.
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  Speaker 4: That's a burden.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: This is just absolute psychotic insanity from this public school district.
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  Speaker 2: That attorney there for the Montgomery Public School system, his
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  Speaker 2: name is Alan. He's a guy that's saying no, like you, really,
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  Speaker 2: as a parent, you don't have any say show over
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  Speaker 2: your kids.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get decide if.
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  Speaker 2: What we're teaching your three year old kid about a
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  Speaker 2: chick being a dude or do being a chick, or
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  Speaker 2: bondage or books that say find the leather for the
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  Speaker 2: for the bondage and sexuality, and this indoctrination of perverting
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  Speaker 2: your kid's minds at an insanely young age of three
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  Speaker 2: and up. You don't have a say so in saying oh,
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  Speaker 2: just because of my faith, you can pull your kid
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  Speaker 2: out of this mandatory curriculum. Now, the other way to
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  Speaker 2: look at this is you can literally fail the child.
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  Speaker 2: The child could be could fail over and over and
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  Speaker 2: over again if the parent does not give in to
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  Speaker 2: this type of indoctrination. And what the Supreme Court is
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  Speaker 2: saying there, and this judge is also saying, is that
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  Speaker 2: we believe that a parent has really.
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  Speaker 3: No rights over their kid. They are properly of the state.
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  Speaker 2: And what Gorch I think was getting to there, and
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  Speaker 2: the point he was made making so clearly is you
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  Speaker 2: guys actually really do believe this, Like this is what
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  Speaker 2: you think that the parent doesn't matter, that the parent's
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  Speaker 2: faith literally has no bearing on protecting a child from
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  Speaker 2: anything you want to indoctrinate that child on. I also
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  Speaker 2: want to play for you another example of how radical
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  Speaker 2: the left is in this case. And again no one's
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  Speaker 2: talking about this outside in the mainstream media because they
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  Speaker 2: don't want you to know that this is even a thing,
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  Speaker 2: so that you can.
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  Speaker 3: Have a voice in it, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Brett Kavanaugh also had another back and forth and Brett
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  Speaker 2: Kavanaugh spot on in what I'm about to play for
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  Speaker 2: you during his question at the Supreme Court, And I
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  Speaker 2: do want to just put this into perspective here so
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  Speaker 2: you understand just how far the radical left has gone.
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  Speaker 2: Fifteen twenty years ago, the LGBT community, the activist basically,
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  Speaker 2: their line was just like, leave us alone, let us
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  Speaker 2: live our lives, our private lives. That was the argument.
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  Speaker 2: Just leave us alone, leave us alone, leave us alone.
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  Speaker 2: What is it today today is well, if look, if
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  Speaker 2: you don't bake me a cake, then I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: sue you and shut down your restaurant right because there's
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  Speaker 2: no such thing as you having the rights to say
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  Speaker 2: no for religious reasons. If you don't allow us and
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  Speaker 2: we will force your children to sit through our curriculum
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  Speaker 2: regardless of your religious beliefs, then we're just going to
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  Speaker 2: fight and try to take those kids away from you
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  Speaker 2: and turn the government against you. Like, think about how
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  Speaker 2: far we've gone twenty years ago. Leave us along and
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  Speaker 2: let us live our private lives. Today, you will bake
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  Speaker 2: me that cake. You will force and you will force
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  Speaker 2: your children to sit through our curriculum or they'll be
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  Speaker 2: kicked out of school, regardless of your religious beliefs.
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  Speaker 3: That is how far the pendulum has gone.
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  Speaker 2: So listen to Kavanaugh and what he said to the
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  Speaker 2: attorneys there on this case.
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  Speaker 3: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 5: But in the country has opt outs for all sorts
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  Speaker 5: of things. The county has opt outs for all sorts
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  Speaker 5: of things. The other Maryland counties had opt outs for
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  Speaker 5: all sorts of things, and yet for this one thing
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  Speaker 5: they change in mid midyear and say no more opt outs.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just not understanding feasibility.
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  Speaker 1: So again, I think what's in the record is that
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  Speaker 1: with respect to these books, as they were deployed in
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  Speaker 1: the classroom, there was high absenteeism in some schools, for example,
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  Speaker 1: dozens of students being opted out in I think mister
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  Speaker 1: Baxter said the average size of an elementary to Montgomery
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  Speaker 1: County is seven hundred students, so each grade is one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. If you have dozens of students
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  Speaker 1: walking out, making arrangements for those students to have adequate
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  Speaker 1: space and supervision and alternative instruction, I think is infeasible.
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  Speaker 4: And that's do it for all sorts of other opt outs.
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  Speaker 1: They don't do it for all sorts of other opt outs.
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  Speaker 1: There's a limited universe of things that students can opt
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  Speaker 1: out from, the family life and healthy sexuality curriculum stands alone.
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  Speaker 1: It is mandated by the state. It is something where
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  Speaker 1: you are able to predict precisely when the curriculum is
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  Speaker 1: going to be deployed.
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  Speaker 5: There's a four the most similar substantively to what we
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  Speaker 5: have here, and there's an opt out allowed there. I
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  Speaker 5: guess I'm not understanding why Montgomery County school Board stands alone.
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  Speaker 5: I think in the country, you can tell me if
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  Speaker 5: there's another school board that's done something like this.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, both.
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  Speaker 5: The kind of books that are being used and prohibiting
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  Speaker 5: opt outs, and I guess I'm just not understanding the
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  Speaker 5: whole goal. I think of some of our religion precedents
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  Speaker 5: is to look for the win win, to look for
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  Speaker 5: the situation where you can respect the religious beliefs and
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  Speaker 5: accommodate the religious beliefs while the state or city or
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  Speaker 5: whatever it may be can pursue its goals. And here,
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  Speaker 5: they're not asking you to change what's taught in the classroom.
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  Speaker 5: They're not asking you to change that at all. A
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  Speaker 5: lot of the rhetoric suggests that they might have that's
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  Speaker 5: a written that they were trying to do that, but
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  Speaker 5: that's not what they're trying to do. They're only seeking
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  Speaker 5: to be able to walk out so that they don't
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  Speaker 5: have to The parents don't have their children exposed to
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  Speaker 5: these things that are contrary to their own beliefs.
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  Speaker 1: I understand your honor, and there may well be circumstances
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  Speaker 1: where a school can.
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  Speaker 3: Or I mean, it's just incredibly bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why I play this audio for you
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  Speaker 2: so that you understand you need to be checking what
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  Speaker 2: your kids are being indoctrinate at at three, like they're
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  Speaker 2: doing this before your kid can even know like this
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  Speaker 2: is wrong. They're doing this before your kid even understands
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  Speaker 2: what's happening.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not by accident. That's on purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Because if they can get control of your kid's mind
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  Speaker 2: to believe that you know Heshi them, they pronouns are normal,
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  Speaker 2: and that you can change your pronouns every day, just
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  Speaker 2: like that book I was reading for you earlier, then
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  Speaker 2: they're like, all right, we're good to go here now
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  Speaker 2: that these moments are not just bizarre, but but they're insane.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you another example.
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  Speaker 2: Justice Jackson yesterday had this back and forth when it
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  Speaker 2: dees with the case.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to play it for you and then I'll
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  Speaker 3: commentate on the other side.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, and I guess I'm struggling to see how it
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  Speaker 6: burdens a parent's religious exercise. If the school teaches something
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  Speaker 6: that the parent disagrees with, you have a choice.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to send your kid to that school.
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  Speaker 6: You can put them in another situation.
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  Speaker 2: You can put them in another situation. Let me let's
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  Speaker 2: let's dissect and go through that quote. If the school
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  Speaker 2: teaches something that the parent disagrees with, you have a choice. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I wish she was actually saying that she's in favor
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  Speaker 2: of school choice, right, but that's not what she's saying here.
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  Speaker 2: She's saying, then pound sand, then take your kid out
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  Speaker 2: of school. Good luck figure it out, because you're the
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  Speaker 2: crazy one because you don't want your three year old
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  Speaker 2: indoctrinated with this trans ideology. So again, back to her
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  Speaker 2: exact words, you don't have to send your kid to
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  Speaker 2: that school. You can put them in another situation, all right,
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  Speaker 2: So choice right.
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  Speaker 3: For justice Keanji Brown Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Is is have your three year old sit through trans
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  Speaker 2: story hour without question, or pay for expensive private.
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  Speaker 3: School or shift to homeschooling.
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  Speaker 2: Not an actual choice, by the way, quote unquote for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of working families or single mothers, and your
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  Speaker 2: tax dollars is what is funding this radical school, whether
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  Speaker 2: your kid goes there or not, so they keep your money.
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  Speaker 2: This is why I'm in favorite school choice. This is
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  Speaker 2: why I'm in favorite vouchers. This is why we as
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  Speaker 2: a community need to understand. Okay, like we need to
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  Speaker 2: understand that this is something now that is going to
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  Speaker 2: happen forever if we don't stop it, because they're already
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  Speaker 2: doing it. I'll give you another example. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: play another part of the argument in the Supreme Court. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is Eric Baxter, the attorney for Muhammad, explaining how
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  Speaker 2: Muchtgomery Public Schools undermined parental rights and religious freedom. And
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  Speaker 2: he said this was clearly targeted the school district at
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  Speaker 2: religious parents. Okay, so this is he's saying, there's no
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  Speaker 2: disguising this. They wanted to come after Christians, they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to come after religious people and say to them, Pound Sand,
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  Speaker 2: we own your kid.
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  Speaker 3: They are property of the state, not you a nation.
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  Speaker 5: And then I guess I am a bit mystified as
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  Speaker 5: a lifelong resident of the county how it came to this.
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  Speaker 5: Can you just tell us what happened when in March
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  Speaker 5: of twenty three, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: Happened in terms.
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  Speaker 5: Of the objections and how the school board responded to
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  Speaker 5: give us a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I share your concern.
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  Speaker 7: My kids you graduated to my kids graduated from MOCO,
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  Speaker 7: and we're opted out when they when they asked on
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  Speaker 7: their own accord to opt out of some instruction on
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  Speaker 7: sex education. And what happened is we're not even entirely
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  Speaker 7: sure because for the entire first year, the board promised
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  Speaker 7: in multiple places on Fox News and other media, the
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  Speaker 7: parents would be be notified and then they would be
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  Speaker 7: opted out.
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  Speaker 3: The last notice.
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  Speaker 7: Happened on March twenty second, twenty twenty three. The very
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  Speaker 7: next day, overnight, with no explanation, the board came out
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  Speaker 7: and said, we're changing the rule because we want every
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  Speaker 7: all students to be instructed on inclusivity. That's at five
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  Speaker 7: point forty seven in the appendix, that emphasis on all
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  Speaker 7: students have to receive this obstruction, nothing about administrability.
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  Speaker 3: And then from there on, even then they said.
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  Speaker 7: If we've already told you you can opt out, we'll
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  Speaker 7: let you do that, but more parents can't ask, And
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  Speaker 7: then it wasn't until later in the year when they
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  Speaker 7: actually revised their guidelines which still allow certain religious opt
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  Speaker 7: outs and just not others. This was clearly targeted at
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  Speaker 7: religious parents, objective.
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  Speaker 5: And complaints were raised.
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  Speaker 4: Right, That's right. Hundreds of parents complained.
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: These were mostly, according to the news articles, mostly families
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: from Muslim faith and Ethiopian Orthodox who are objecting. When
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: they spoke to the board, the board accused them of
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: using their religious beliefs as another reason to hate, accused
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: a young Muslim girl of parroting her parents' dogma, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: then accuse the parents of aligning with racist xenophobes and
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: white supremacists. And so again, there's no question in this
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: case that there is a burden, that it was imposed
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: with animosity, and that it's discriminating against our clients because
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: of their religious beliefs.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it again, if you're not involved
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: in your kids in their schools and what's happening, this
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: is probably the craft that's happening, and you have no
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: idea what's going on, and you can tell the Supreme
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Court at least some of these justices are saying, I'm
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: sounding the alarm.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Parents.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You need to get in your libraries, and you need
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to see what your kids are being forced to listen
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to and what they're been doctoring your kids with during
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: their reading hour as early as the age of three.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Because I mentioned earlier.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Tricia McLaughlin, the Assistant Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: join us at the White House to talk about what's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: going on with border security issues.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And here is what she had to say.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: One of the big issues that so many Americans care
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: about right now is the issue of what's happening at
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the southern border. We have done a lot to secure
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the border in a President Trump and in the first
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: hundred days, but then there's the issue of all the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants that are in this country and how we're
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: going to deport them, especially those that are in MS
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: thirteen gang members and Trey de la Laga gangs. This
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: is still a major issue for safety for so many Americans.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: So join me now to talk about this is Trician mclofflin.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: She is the Assistant Secretary Department of Homeland Security. Tricia,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it's a pleasure to have you here and to talk
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: about this. Let's go to the headlines and start there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: You've got this story of a MS thirteen gang member,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: who even his own wife was making sure that his
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: knuckles were that had the tattoo of the MS thirteen
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: gang symbol, was not on social media in some of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: her postings. Then the media tried to say that he
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: was not a gang member, that this was terrible, that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: we kicked him out of this country, and that we
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: send him out Salvador, and they're domating him back.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And now Democrats have.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Gone all in on this, like there's delegations using taxpayer
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: dollars to go and meet with this person, not meet
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: with family members and victims in this country, those that
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: have been terrorized, those have been killed, those have been
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: raped and murdered by this gang that is a terrorist organization.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: And now we're also seeing lawfare in the courts trying
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to say no, no, no, President Trump, you can't keep American
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: safe as.
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: Well, exactly Ben, And there really is a concerted effort
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: by the media and Democrats to whitewash the story, whitewash
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: who this guy is, that he's some innocent marilynd father,
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: when he's anything but. First and foremost, he is in
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: the country illegally. He had final deportation orders. But let's
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: go through the timeline a little bit to describe who
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: this guy Abrego Garcia actually is. When he was initially
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: arrested in twenty nineteen, he was found among other MS
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: thirteen gang members, decked out in MS thirteen gear having
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: different MS thirteen symbols on it. He was found with
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: drugs and rolls of money as well. Two separate immigration
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: judges found that he was an MS thirteen gang member
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: as well as the Prince George's County gang unit. Keep
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: in mind, Prince George County, Maryland isn't exactly some red haven,
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: it is very blue. They found that he is in
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: MS thirteen as well. Flash forward to twenty twenty one.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: His wife, his own wife, who like you said, was
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: covering up his knuckles, was filed a domestic restraining order
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: against him for slapping her, for ripping off her shirt,
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: for pinching and scratching her sheet, and her own written
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: testimony said how she feared for her children and tried
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: to take them away from him, and then man if
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: I may one more time is In twenty twenty two,
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: he was pulled over by the Tennessee State Highway Patrol,
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: during which he was allegedly taking eight individuals from Texas
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: to Maryland on a three day journey. On a three
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: day journey with eight people, and there was not a
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: single piece of luggage in that vehicle that reeks of
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: human trafficking.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: That is textbook.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: And so we're left to believe that, oh, no, this
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: is an innocent guy.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that let's be queer the Biden administration.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: The FBI said no, no, no, just let him go.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about that.
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: There's certainly more to the story and I'd love to
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: hear more from the FBI and what went down there.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: So you look at this guy and he's over there,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and now the media has become like he's some sort
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of folk.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Hero or hero for them.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: The Democratic Party is spending taxpayer hours to go down
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: there and meet with him like he's a celebrity. You
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: have centers that are holding his hand like he's been
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: persecuted by the Unitstates of America and demands to bring
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: him back. What so we can deport him to another
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: country as soon as he gets here, because that's exactly
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: what could happen.
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: It's remarkable to me that this is the hill that
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: the Democrats and media are willing to die on that
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: they have one small shred of any credibility left and
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: this is what they're going to burn it on. Is
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: this MS thirteen gang member. Americans should remember who MS
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: thirteen is. It is a vicious gang that sex traffics,
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: that human traffics, that mames, rapes, and kills Americans for sport.
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: These are people who should not be in our country
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: and should be hunted down and locked up immediately.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You just look at some of the things that apparently
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: were found on his devices. And that's one of the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: things that I found interesting on the reporting is you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: look at what they share MS thirteen game members. They
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: share the pictures of beheadings, the butchering of humans, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: then yet they're trying to say, oh, this guy's a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: victim who broke into America.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: Anything but and that is I mean, if you look
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: at the crime on American streets and the crimes by
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: these illegal immigrant gangs, so much of the time they're
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: done by MS thirteen, they're done by Trendy Aragua, they're
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: done by these other vicious gangs. They shouldn't have been
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: here in the first place because they're in the country illegally.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: Much less the fact that with impunity, they've been allowed
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: to rain terwer on American streets for the last four years.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the court system now, and we've seen
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: these activist judges who are stepping in and using law
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: fair to say, Hey, the President can't do this anymore.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You can't just ship people off to the other countries.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: We're going to stop you every step of the way.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: What is the administration's response to that. How long is
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it going to take for this.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: To play out.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: I think ultimately President Trump, Secretary Nomen, this entire administration
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: are going to be victorious on this issue. On November fifth,
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, there is a clear mandate from the
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: American people that we need to get criminal, illegal aliens
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: out of this country. There was likely ten to twenty
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: million illegal aliens who came into this country under Joe Biden.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: The American people are done with it. Look, whether Garcia
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: is in an American detention facility or an La Salvador,
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: what matters really is that he's locked up. But I
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: do think ultimately this will be sorted out. We will
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: ensure that these individuals have due process. That was what
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: the Supreme Court was most concerned about was the amount
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: of time these individuals were given notice. But we're going
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: to be very clear that despite the fact that these
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: are terrorists and these are criminal gang members, this is
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: still the United States of American. We guarantee due process
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: under the US Constitution.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So when you look forward after, we're at the one
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: hundred day mark in essence, and this is pretty awesome
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot that's been done. The border is
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: now more secure than it's been in decades, the number
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of people are coming across. I think the message the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: present sent loud and clear was you come here now,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it's game on. We're saying that the number of crossings
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: have dropped significantly, but there's the big question of Okay,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that got in under the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Biden years.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: There's literally millions. How are we going to unwind all
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: of that in an orderly fashion?
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that we're working to do just that.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: Secretary Nome was handed a tough task and she's taking
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: it on miraculously. Look at the border, as you just mentioned,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: we virtually have operational control of the border. Crossings are
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: down ninety five percent. That is, i all counts the
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: most secure border and American history. That's in less than
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: ninety days. It's pretty remarkable. But we also have to
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: look at our legal immigration system as well. The Biden
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: administration majorc has use parole programs, temporary protected status, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: these other programs to allow illegal immigrants to come into
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: this country unvetted. We don't know really who's in this country,
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: so we have to really take a pause and go
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: through who did we let in for the last four years.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: So I think it's going to take also a unleashed ICE.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Secretary name has been remarkable in that, but the fact is,
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: for the last four years, Biden did not allow these
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: ICE agents to actually do their jobs. They were disincentivized
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: for making any of these arrests, whether it be just
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: illegal aliens to criminal vicious aliens like these MS thirteen members,
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: as we've mentioned before. So we have a tall task
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: and we've got to get these arrests numbers up. But
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: that's part of the reason why Secretary Nome is on
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: the ground on a weekly basis with our enforcement officers
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: from Border and Protection Patrol and from ICE to make
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: sure that we're getting them the resources they need to
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: be successful to get these arrests numbers up and to
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: make sure.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: They're safe on the job.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about detention detainers that the ICE needs in
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the court systems. They need these courts still alert them
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: when they have somebody in custody that is clearly needs
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to be deported. We still are seeing activists that are
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: not allowing for that to happen. How big of an
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: issue is that going to be moving forward and is
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: there more than the White House can do to stop
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that from being a thing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the Department of Justice under Attorney General
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: Pam Bondi is definitely looking at options with these sanctuary cities,
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: like you mentioned, if ICE isn't able to lodge these
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: detainers against these criminal aliens, that they could be released
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: into American communities and go out and commit the same act. Actually,
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago, Secretary Nome was in New
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: York City and a lot of listeners will probably remember
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: this really heinous crime at Coney Island, the subway station
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: there where this illegal immigrant lit this woman on fire
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: and killed her. It was incredibly depraved. ICE tried to
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: lodge a detainer, and we are not sure if that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: going to be honored. So we don't know if, if,
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: and when this guy will get out, but if he's not,
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: he could be released back into New York even though
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: he's in this country illegally. That's the kind of cases
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: we have to end and that's what I mean case
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: in point why sanctuary cities are so so dangerous.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Final question for you on moving forward in the next
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: one hundred days, what do you expect the headlines to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: be from this administration on this issue. Obviously, the border
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: is secure, we can check that box. We're doing more,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: but where is this going to go and what can
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the American people expect.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: I think you're going to see ramped up deportation numbers.
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: I think you're going to see more agreements with third
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: party countries. Whether you see that with Al Salvador that
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: they're taking some of our most vicious, worse, the worst
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: criminal aliens. I think you're going to see more of
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: that from other countries to make sure that these guys
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: are off of Americans, loyal and take and take part
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: in getting their.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Their folks folks back.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: I also think we're going to see more, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: we're going to see more action with these the courts
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: and some of these activists judges, but we're not gonna
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: let it stop us. We have deportation flights going almost
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: every single day, and Alien and Newmies Act is only
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: one tool in our arsenal. We have a lot of
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: authorities to get these people out of the country.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: It's incredible.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You guys are doing great work, and your boss is
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: doing great work as well. It's nice to have leadership
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: at the Department of Home in Security that actually knows
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: who the bad guys are and they're willing to go
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: after them. Chrisia mcoffin, she is the Assistant Secretary Department
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: of Homelandsecurity.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. Thank you for coming on this monor
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 29:28
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