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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
- 0:07Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and
- 0:10Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me
- 0:13Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke.
- 0:17Speaker 1: You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry
- 0:20Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what
- 0:23Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from
- 0:25Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here we come.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. I am your host,
- 0:33Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions
- 0:36Speaker 1: of success. For real, for you, it may be the
- 0:39Speaker 1: size of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish
- 0:42Speaker 1: their goals and live their very best life. That's why
- 0:44Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, basically, it's time to
- 0:47Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stores and start writing your own.
- 0:50Speaker 1: People always talking about purpose or gift. If you have
- 0:52Speaker 1: a gift, lead with your gift, and most importantly, don't
- 0:56Speaker 1: let your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning
- 0:58Speaker 1: or living your dream. My guests will show that they
- 1:01Speaker 1: are Tiffany Halls in Tiana Harrison Tea and Tea. They're
- 1:05Speaker 1: starting a new original unscripted series for own ladies who
- 1:09Speaker 1: list Atlanta real estate. You know, I tell you something,
- 1:12Speaker 1: you know you know that's that's the whole world for
- 1:15Speaker 1: So this is really gonna be a really informed with
- 1:17Speaker 1: the interview, but really one of the few interviews I
- 1:19Speaker 1: get on the show that really they got answer to
- 1:21Speaker 1: the personal questions about myself. Because I've been designed the paper,
- 1:24Speaker 1: I don't know what I've been designed in all those years.
- 1:26Speaker 1: This show is about six top notch female real estate
- 1:29Speaker 1: professionals who sell the city of Atlanta while juggling active,
- 1:32Speaker 1: social and personal lives. But in the business where relationships matter,
- 1:36Speaker 1: drama often comes with the territory. Let me die more
- 1:40Speaker 1: detail about my guests. Tiffany Hawes graduated from Atlanta's John
- 1:43Speaker 1: Marshall Law School in December thirteen and prior to that laws.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Prior to law school, Ms Halls worked as a real
- 1:50Speaker 1: estate paralegal for more than eight years. Tina Harrison is
- 1:54Speaker 1: a rising superstar, as they say. She is attending Tennessee
- 1:57Speaker 1: State University of the tract and Field Scholarship. Let me
- 2:00Speaker 1: see if she can steer sprint now, okay, and before
- 2:03Speaker 1: receiving her Georgia Bulldog degree from their University of Georgia.
- 2:06Speaker 1: You know she's bragging both weights hbc U and national championship,
- 2:09Speaker 1: So we gotta talk about that. We'll be discussing about
- 2:12Speaker 1: key themes in the show real estate, success, friendship, businesswomen,
- 2:17Speaker 1: which is really really important especially with you know, women's history.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Money had becoming so prominent, which is the month of
- 2:23Speaker 1: March every year on the calendar, motherhood, which is also important,
- 2:27Speaker 1: Marriage and love. Please walking to Money Making Conversation master
- 2:30Speaker 1: Class from their own series, Ladies Who List Atlanta, Tiffany
- 2:34Speaker 1: Halls and Tiana Harrison, how are you doing, Ladies? That
- 2:39Speaker 1: was a lot? There was a lot, wasn't it. I
- 2:44Speaker 1: know I missed the superstar, the superstar super Bowl husband.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Remember I missed him. But we're gonna talk about it.
- 2:50Speaker 1: So let's start with you. Tiffany, how is life treating you?
- 2:54Speaker 1: Before the show? Because what I try to do on
- 2:56Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass, I try to get nuggets of
- 2:59Speaker 1: information people and the want to be you in a
- 3:02Speaker 1: sense before you came on television a lot of people
- 3:05Speaker 1: inspire to do what you do. What are some of
- 3:08Speaker 1: the mistakes that people make? Are soon when they get it,
- 3:12Speaker 1: when they get an opportunity to pursue your career type UM,
- 3:18Speaker 1: I think in the number one, thank you so much
- 3:21Speaker 1: for having me on your show, I do want to
- 3:24Speaker 1: show you my appreciation for that. But I think what
- 3:27Speaker 1: in the world of social media, a lot of people
- 3:31Speaker 1: think it's easy or think that success comes overnight. So
- 3:35Speaker 1: in order for me to have went to law school,
- 3:38Speaker 1: I first had to graduate undergrad So this law school
- 3:42Speaker 1: thing and me becoming a lawyer started back in two
- 3:44Speaker 1: thousand and six and so ten years from that is
- 3:48Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, you know, and now we're in
- 3:50Speaker 1: two This is years and years of work just to
- 3:55Speaker 1: get to where I am. And I think that in
- 3:58Speaker 1: the world of social media, people think that it happens overnight.
- 4:01Speaker 1: So when their dream is not happening fast enough, they
- 4:05Speaker 1: think that maybe other people had like a hand up,
- 4:08Speaker 1: or somebody like you know, gave them what they had.
- 4:11Speaker 1: But in reality, anything, um, any type of success comes
- 4:16Speaker 1: with time, and it comes with a lot of work
- 4:18Speaker 1: and a lot of focus, and a lot of dedication
- 4:21Speaker 1: and just simply sticking to the path. And so what
- 4:24Speaker 1: I would want people to know from me is that
- 4:27Speaker 1: this is definitely not a dream that happened overnight. This
- 4:31Speaker 1: is something that I've been working on for years, for
- 4:34Speaker 1: almost twenty years at this point. Well, congratulations Tiana Harrison.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Uh they list to show, as you know, they have
- 4:42Speaker 1: a Kiana, she's a broker, Crystal she's a closing attorney.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Robin she's a broker. And a Tiffany she mentioned her
- 4:48Speaker 1: law background, she's a closing attorney. And Tianna you are
- 4:52Speaker 1: a luxury agent and Cure as a luxury agent. Now
- 4:56Speaker 1: what what what did the word luxury because is that
- 4:59Speaker 1: a a certain cut office five hundred thousand dollars and
- 5:02Speaker 1: up luxury a million dollars in up luxury. What is
- 5:05Speaker 1: the word luxury pop into the real estate business? I'm like,
- 5:09Speaker 1: I want to know if I'm in the luxury house basically, So, Rishan,
- 5:14Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I will dive right into it.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Um and I have actually adopted this from my counterpart
- 5:22Speaker 1: Um Tiffany, that luxury is the ability to purchase, period
- 5:28Speaker 1: especially because there have been so many different disparities within
- 5:31Speaker 1: our community. So for me luxury is being able to
- 5:36Speaker 1: get to the closing table to accomplish a dream up
- 5:40Speaker 1: home ownership. You say that that you have purchased real
- 5:44Speaker 1: estate on the commercial and residential side, so that is
- 5:47Speaker 1: a luxury in general. We are in the South, so
- 5:52Speaker 1: it could be subjective to price point. There are certain
- 5:55Speaker 1: areas that you can go to where luxury right might
- 5:59Speaker 1: mean five thousand dollars up, and then other areas where
- 6:03Speaker 1: luxury is a million enup. So it just depends. Because
- 6:07Speaker 1: still with being in the South, you can definitely get
- 6:10Speaker 1: more for your money as opposed to our alternative bigger cities.
- 6:15Speaker 1: I want to just tell you, ladies. First of all,
- 6:17Speaker 1: I find you both compelling and so I want to
- 6:20Speaker 1: bring you back on my show. We're gonna do this
- 6:22Speaker 1: interview because I love having both of you. But I
- 6:25Speaker 1: also want to give you your value because each one
- 6:27Speaker 1: of you I could have spoken to individually. That's how
- 6:30Speaker 1: compelling you are because of the fact that I've done
- 6:32Speaker 1: my research. And then it's it's you know, the whole
- 6:35Speaker 1: television show is a component that as to why we're
- 6:38Speaker 1: doing this interview today. But what you're accomplishing is black
- 6:41Speaker 1: women is equally powerful because of the fact that you know,
- 6:45Speaker 1: we all know discrimination the issues out there. You are
- 6:48Speaker 1: a woman, you are attractive women, and so that means
- 6:51Speaker 1: that there's a certain stereotype that can come with that,
- 6:55Speaker 1: unfortunately from men and also from women. Okay, so when
- 6:59Speaker 1: you you when you're rolling through the whole process, especially
- 7:02Speaker 1: on the legal antiffany, what what do you find this
- 7:05Speaker 1: disappoints you as far as what people the perception that
- 7:09Speaker 1: people have about you. And maybe not, maybe I'm wrong,
- 7:12Speaker 1: but I've been black all my life, so I know
- 7:14Speaker 1: what I know what the racism is, and I know
- 7:16Speaker 1: what stereo types is, and I know I've been underpaid
- 7:19Speaker 1: and I know I've been discarded because of the color
- 7:21Speaker 1: of my skin. Talk to us about your journey, which
- 7:24Speaker 1: I would led to this television show. But there has
- 7:25Speaker 1: been a journey, like you said in your earlier speaking
- 7:29Speaker 1: early appresentation, talk about that. Okay, So we can talk
- 7:34Speaker 1: about this UM in two ways. And this is actually
- 7:37Speaker 1: something that is kind of on the surface of what's
- 7:40Speaker 1: going on in my life right now. But we will
- 7:43Speaker 1: talk about just being a black woman attorney UM in Georgia.
- 7:47Speaker 1: And so sometimes we are looked at as if we
- 7:51Speaker 1: don't have enough education to be able to make proper decisions.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I've had times where I would be at the close
- 7:59Speaker 1: and tape people and somebody would say to me, or
- 8:03Speaker 1: prior to the closing table, I'm gonna call so and
- 8:07Speaker 1: so white law firm to see if what you're saying
- 8:10Speaker 1: is legitimate because I don't believe you. I don't think
- 8:14Speaker 1: that you know what you're doing. Which is fine. You know,
- 8:17Speaker 1: this is what I tell people all the time. We
- 8:18Speaker 1: all passed the same bar, you know, and so that
- 8:21Speaker 1: part that bar is what equalized all of us. It
- 8:24Speaker 1: didn't matter what school you went to, it didn't matter
- 8:27Speaker 1: your level of education. In order to become an attorney,
- 8:30Speaker 1: you had to pass that bar, and I did so
- 8:33Speaker 1: on the first time with flying colors. So when people
- 8:36Speaker 1: want to um, stay that maybe I'm not as educated
- 8:41Speaker 1: because the color of my skin, or maybe because how
- 8:44Speaker 1: I look, um, you know, I just take it with
- 8:47Speaker 1: a grain of salt because I know who I am,
- 8:50Speaker 1: and I know my education, and I have a successful
- 8:54Speaker 1: black law firm in Atlanta that are that is doing wonderfully,
- 8:59Speaker 1: not just monst people who look like me, but amongst
- 9:02Speaker 1: my other counterparts. They still support, UM, my business and
- 9:07Speaker 1: I'm just as successful because of them as well. Um
- 9:10Speaker 1: within our community, there is so since the last episode,
- 9:14Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been able to get caught
- 9:16Speaker 1: up me and the other clothes an attorney. It's not
- 9:18Speaker 1: that we like each other or we dislike each other.
- 9:22Speaker 1: We've just never grown into having a friendship. And viewers
- 9:27Speaker 1: of the show have turned that into maybe possibly me
- 9:31Speaker 1: not liking Crystal because of the color of her skin,
- 9:35Speaker 1: because she's darker than me, And so you're they're bringing
- 9:39Speaker 1: in this whole colorism thing. I did a lot with
- 9:42Speaker 1: my mother, which if people see my mother, my mother
- 9:45Speaker 1: is darker than every castmate on Ladies Who List. Colorism
- 9:51Speaker 1: was a huge thing um with her and with the
- 9:56Speaker 1: upbringing of me. It is something that we talked about.
- 10:00Speaker 1: My mother was in a household where all her siblings
- 10:03Speaker 1: were lighter than her. Her mother and her father were
- 10:05Speaker 1: lighted than her, and so she grew up being the
- 10:09Speaker 1: black child, and this shaped her into not even wanting
- 10:14Speaker 1: dark skinned children because she felt like the darkness of
- 10:18Speaker 1: her skin was negative, which is why you have me
- 10:23Speaker 1: a mixed child, you know what I'm saying. So it's
- 10:25Speaker 1: really deeply rooted. It's a really big issue, and it
- 10:30Speaker 1: has affected my family seriously, and to have viewers try
- 10:35Speaker 1: to accuse me of doing so, which I never respond
- 10:38Speaker 1: to any of the entertainment opinions, but this kind of
- 10:42Speaker 1: hit me hard because I know personally what I've gone through,
- 10:45Speaker 1: So you kind of get it from both sides. But
- 10:48Speaker 1: in all of it, you have to I have to
- 10:50Speaker 1: remain positive and grateful that Number one, I even have
- 10:54Speaker 1: this platform to be able to discuss issues like this,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and I have this platform to show people it doesn't
- 11:00Speaker 1: matter if you're black, it doesn't matter if you're white.
- 11:03Speaker 1: You can succeed and and do what's necessary to get
- 11:06Speaker 1: to wherever you want to go. Wow, And I understand that.
- 11:09Speaker 1: And I have six sisters, two brothers, you know, and
- 11:12Speaker 1: it's interesting in the black family, nobody's the same shade.
- 11:15Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We'll be right back with more Money Making
- 11:19Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money
- 11:26Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. That when I interview
- 11:31Speaker 1: people who on these type of shows, these unscripted shows,
- 11:34Speaker 1: you know, you can become a victim of editing. You
- 11:38Speaker 1: can become a victim of the story. You know, that's
- 11:40Speaker 1: not that's not how where they went. But they're trying
- 11:43Speaker 1: to be entertainment and you have to deal with it
- 11:45Speaker 1: on social media, have to explain yourself sometimes. Now you know,
- 11:49Speaker 1: I know why we do this. You know, we try
- 11:51Speaker 1: to broaden our career. We try to build our brand.
- 11:53Speaker 1: We're trying to build our social media. Also, these basically
- 11:57Speaker 1: can be giant info commercials if it works out right,
- 12:00Speaker 1: that's correct. Okay, Now, you being who you are, you
- 12:03Speaker 1: know you already come from I would say a celebrity
- 12:07Speaker 1: type background because of your your husband. You know, he's
- 12:10Speaker 1: high profile football players, super Bowl champion twice. This Bridge Dealers,
- 12:14Speaker 1: by the way, my favorite team. Okay, enough, so I
- 12:16Speaker 1: throw that out there and so so talk about you know,
- 12:20Speaker 1: because that can come into your into this conversation. And
- 12:24Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, you know that was a
- 12:27Speaker 1: huge part of your bio, was him, and I cut
- 12:30Speaker 1: it out. I would I ain't we ain't gonna, they
- 12:33Speaker 1: got nothing to do and what people want to throw
- 12:36Speaker 1: that in? So so, but you're trying to build you
- 12:38Speaker 1: who you are, your brand. Talk about that leveling of
- 12:41Speaker 1: trying to build your brand and while you're doing this
- 12:44Speaker 1: show all right, So you know it's it's a little
- 12:50Speaker 1: bit of a challenge because while my brand is something
- 12:54Speaker 1: that I had to get out there and work at
- 12:58Speaker 1: and work on, my husband is an integral part of
- 13:03Speaker 1: my journey. So if you know me, you understand that
- 13:07Speaker 1: I'm so inclusive, totally inclusive of the black male leadership
- 13:12Speaker 1: influence like that is my thing. So I never want
- 13:16Speaker 1: to exclude him from my story. I was wrong. You
- 13:22Speaker 1: were absolutely on top of it and that, and I'm
- 13:25Speaker 1: glad that you brought that up. But I have to
- 13:27Speaker 1: tell you how much I promote um men in your position,
- 13:32Speaker 1: I promote men and my husband's position because he supports
- 13:36Speaker 1: who I am and he supports what I do, and
- 13:39Speaker 1: he would have had the same response that you did.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Wait a minute, this is a dominant black female who
- 13:46Speaker 1: was doing amazing things, so that is his stance as well.
- 13:50Speaker 1: So when it came down to that, you can't negate
- 13:53Speaker 1: the story exactly. But as you're stating, I have to
- 13:56Speaker 1: put in a lot of groundwork to get me where
- 13:58Speaker 1: I am right now. I had to cultivate a lot
- 14:01Speaker 1: of different relationships. I had to make sure that the
- 14:05Speaker 1: respect was mutual on both sides of the fence as
- 14:09Speaker 1: far as you know, within my clientele and as far
- 14:12Speaker 1: as our households. So having that having that respect from
- 14:17Speaker 1: him and for him has totally been a been instrumental
- 14:24Speaker 1: in my progress, in my development and the success that
- 14:28Speaker 1: I've had. So I hope that answers it a little bit.
- 14:31Speaker 1: He's great at what he's does, what he does and
- 14:33Speaker 1: what he has done in the past. But we have
- 14:36Speaker 1: um triumph through some very difficult times. So I didn't
- 14:40Speaker 1: come into this, you know, with the financial status that
- 14:44Speaker 1: some may feel. But we work together throughout those transitions
- 14:50Speaker 1: of football to get to where we both are. Right now,
- 14:53Speaker 1: there you go. I love it. I love it now.
- 14:55Speaker 1: I gotta this is what the end of. You become selfish,
- 14:58Speaker 1: nep you know, because I bought of the few houses
- 15:00Speaker 1: in my time. I'm talking to the closing the turney here, okay,
- 15:04Speaker 1: and then you slide that big old piece of paper
- 15:07Speaker 1: in front, I mean a piece of I wish it
- 15:09Speaker 1: was a piece of paper. I may take the time
- 15:10Speaker 1: to read it. It's about it's a Bible. It's really
- 15:14Speaker 1: a Bible. Nobody reads a Bible in one day, Okay,
- 15:17Speaker 1: And you gotta close on the day that they tell
- 15:20Speaker 1: you too. So could you please tell me, Tiffany Halls, No,
- 15:26Speaker 1: first time ball passed it, Georgia law, you know it,
- 15:31Speaker 1: black and white. You're the best. What is it that
- 15:35Speaker 1: deck of pages that I can't under? I can't take time?
- 15:38Speaker 1: What the end if the order because of that? Or
- 15:42Speaker 1: who your cousin named by being there? You don't know?
- 15:46Speaker 1: Help me out? Okay, So let me let me break
- 15:48Speaker 1: this down. If it's if you're buying a property cash
- 15:51Speaker 1: and the paperwork is not gonna be that heavy. It's
- 15:54Speaker 1: gonna be about ten documents, and those documents are gonna
- 15:57Speaker 1: be in favor of the law firm. If the law
- 16:00Speaker 1: all firm messes up, this is how we can get
- 16:01Speaker 1: our money. This is how we can fix the issue,
- 16:03Speaker 1: and you have to agree to fix it. So when
- 16:07Speaker 1: you are and it's it's pretty much that simple. When
- 16:09Speaker 1: you're getting financing, that's when we're having these Bible stacks
- 16:13Speaker 1: of paper. And so the way that I try to
- 16:17Speaker 1: tell my first time home buyers is this, These are
- 16:20Speaker 1: all the ways the lender camp for close on you
- 16:23Speaker 1: if you stop paying for your mortgage. Every document is
- 16:27Speaker 1: here because at some point a lender was sued and
- 16:32Speaker 1: they want or maybe a lender tried to foreclose and
- 16:36Speaker 1: they couldn't. So all the documents are in favor of
- 16:40Speaker 1: the lender to make sure that if you don't pay
- 16:42Speaker 1: your mortgage that they can get their money back. So,
- 16:45Speaker 1: as a buyer, what is important to you out of
- 16:48Speaker 1: this hundred and fifty page stack of paper, what is
- 16:52Speaker 1: important to you? Number one? What's important to you is
- 16:55Speaker 1: going to be your clothes and disclosure or your settlements,
- 16:57Speaker 1: and this is what outlines all the numbers. So you
- 17:01Speaker 1: want to make sure that your credits are there. If
- 17:03Speaker 1: the seller is giving five thousand dollars and closing costs,
- 17:06Speaker 1: you want to make sure that's there. If you have
- 17:08Speaker 1: put down earnest money, you want to make sure that
- 17:10Speaker 1: that's there. You want to make sure the lender is
- 17:13Speaker 1: not overcharging you. You want to make sure that the
- 17:15Speaker 1: attorney's office is not overcharging you. And what you expected
- 17:18Speaker 1: to bring to closing is on that closing disclosure. The
- 17:22Speaker 1: next big document that you want to make sure is
- 17:24Speaker 1: correct is your note. This is your promise to pay
- 17:28Speaker 1: back this loan and it has your interest rate on there.
- 17:31Speaker 1: So if the whole time you've been speaking to your lender,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and your lender has said that you were getting a
- 17:35Speaker 1: two point five percent interest rate, But you get to
- 17:38Speaker 1: my closing table and that note says five percent. Your
- 17:42Speaker 1: interest rate is five percent. You want to make sure
- 17:45Speaker 1: that on that note it has your proper interest rate,
- 17:49Speaker 1: and so that is a document that you care about.
- 17:52Speaker 1: You also care about the title to your property. You
- 17:55Speaker 1: want to make sure that your name is spelled correctly.
- 17:58Speaker 1: You want to make sure that the legal scare shins
- 18:00Speaker 1: correct so that you're buying and purchasing the correct property.
- 18:04Speaker 1: You want to make sure that if you have a
- 18:05Speaker 1: spouse that's supposed to be on that d, that they
- 18:08Speaker 1: are on that D. Okay. You also want to look
- 18:11Speaker 1: at your amortization. This is the most scariest document out
- 18:15Speaker 1: of all of them, right, it's all scary. I'm sorry,
- 18:19Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now, this one's scary scary because you're borrowing
- 18:24Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousands, but yet you're having to
- 18:26Speaker 1: pay back seven hundred thousands. So this amortization outlines that,
- 18:31Speaker 1: and it shows you how your scheduled payments go over
- 18:35Speaker 1: the full life of the loan. And most of the
- 18:37Speaker 1: time people are getting dirty years for the loan. But
- 18:40Speaker 1: I also educate you that if you pay more down
- 18:43Speaker 1: on your principle, now this amortization it switches, it changes,
- 18:47Speaker 1: and now you're not paying as money back with the
- 18:50Speaker 1: additional interest as you should after that. Honestly, doesn't matter
- 18:54Speaker 1: what you're signing, you're either gonna agree to it and
- 18:57Speaker 1: get your house or you're not. The lender is not
- 19:00Speaker 1: going to negotiate anything. So I have I have to
- 19:07Speaker 1: that inside now, Tiana. Now, so you're walking me into
- 19:10Speaker 1: this door. You know, you know, I've never met Tiffany
- 19:13Speaker 1: in my life. Usually that's the case, you know what
- 19:15Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I've been working. You run me all
- 19:17Speaker 1: over the neighborhood, walk me to some properties. I kind
- 19:21Speaker 1: of like, I don't like you know, you know, you
- 19:23Speaker 1: might have oversold some stuff and not walking in and
- 19:26Speaker 1: go okay, really, I don't know about that. You tell me,
- 19:30Speaker 1: you know, they might say a million. I said, I
- 19:33Speaker 1: want five hundred thousand. You said, look, you might will
- 19:35Speaker 1: get out this building because anybody gonna give you that
- 19:37Speaker 1: price for that. So you try to keep a certain
- 19:39Speaker 1: level of sanity in my purchasing mind. Now, when you're
- 19:45Speaker 1: dealing with a person and they how do how do
- 19:48Speaker 1: you establish that relationship with a potential client. Just walk
- 19:52Speaker 1: us through that step process that you do, Tiana. Okay,
- 19:55Speaker 1: so you know, first things first, we have to have
- 19:58Speaker 1: a consultation. I have to see where you are and
- 20:01Speaker 1: you have to you know, go through my processes, UM
- 20:05Speaker 1: and see if it works for you. And you're you know,
- 20:08Speaker 1: you could be you, it could be you and your family,
- 20:10Speaker 1: it could be you and a significant other UM, and
- 20:14Speaker 1: so it just has to work for you. We have
- 20:16Speaker 1: a consultation, we discuss the things that are important to
- 20:19Speaker 1: your purchase. UM. We we talk about whether you're gonna
- 20:24Speaker 1: finance the property or whether you're going to purchase the
- 20:26Speaker 1: property cash or whatever. You know, way you're going to
- 20:31Speaker 1: UM get the property conveyed to you. Typically it's finance.
- 20:35Speaker 1: And as Tiffany discussed, once we get there, you're gonna
- 20:38Speaker 1: get that stack of papers. But prior to we're gonna
- 20:41Speaker 1: go out and we're gonna look at homes whichever you're
- 20:44Speaker 1: you feel comfortable that approval mount is. Then we're gonna
- 20:48Speaker 1: go look at homes within that realm and decide on
- 20:53Speaker 1: what's the best property for you investment wise, Because I
- 20:56Speaker 1: oftentimes when people purchase their first property, it's not there
- 21:00Speaker 1: forever home, and you have to understand that you may
- 21:03Speaker 1: not get everything that you want within that first property,
- 21:07Speaker 1: but it is your tool to building wealth for the
- 21:10Speaker 1: next property or for the properties succumb down the line.
- 21:14Speaker 1: So it's vitally important that you speak with a reputable
- 21:18Speaker 1: agent who understands the market and who is knowledgeable in
- 21:22Speaker 1: the market because markets change and trends change. So once
- 21:27Speaker 1: we find the home of that you want, or find
- 21:30Speaker 1: a home that's best fit for you, then I link
- 21:35Speaker 1: you with my preferred closing attorney, Tiffany, and her the lender,
- 21:40Speaker 1: and myself we get together so that we can successfully
- 21:44Speaker 1: get you to the closing table. When you meet Tiffany
- 21:47Speaker 1: Um as a first time HomeBuyer, she walks you through
- 21:50Speaker 1: every single step of the thick stack of paper that
- 21:55Speaker 1: you'll go through, and you're gonna say, why am I
- 21:58Speaker 1: signing a document? Or four times it says that if
- 22:02Speaker 1: this property for a close, it's got done, And it's
- 22:05Speaker 1: because they have to tell you over and over again
- 22:08Speaker 1: what it is that you're signing. And so we just
- 22:10Speaker 1: basically I'm a calming I'm a calming agent to get
- 22:14Speaker 1: you through this process because it can have a lot
- 22:17Speaker 1: of ups and downs, and so I'm gonna hold your
- 22:20Speaker 1: hand the hallway, girl, and make sure that you're okay
- 22:24Speaker 1: even when we get to the bumps of the road.
- 22:27Speaker 1: I am enjoying this interview. I'm talking to two of
- 22:29Speaker 1: the stars and six of them, but I'm talking only
- 22:31Speaker 1: too of the ladies who list Atlanta is uh six
- 22:35Speaker 1: top notch females in the real estate of profession seld
- 22:38Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta. And you know, it's a reality
- 22:41Speaker 1: show docuseries, so they have drama, they talk about their
- 22:44Speaker 1: personal lives and sometimes arguments, which I always hate. And
- 22:47Speaker 1: I see arguments on the show, you know, they always
- 22:49Speaker 1: want to always want to magnify the argument, you know,
- 22:52Speaker 1: like there's confrontation that's uh. That that drives my my
- 22:56Speaker 1: reason to watch. What drives my reason to watch his intellect,
- 22:59Speaker 1: Roger rides my reason to watch is being able to
- 23:02Speaker 1: get information. And I think that's what we've advanced. And
- 23:05Speaker 1: I appreciate this conversation and you're delivering exactly what I
- 23:08Speaker 1: thought I would get from you. You guys have educated me,
- 23:11Speaker 1: educated my audience because of the fact that this show
- 23:14Speaker 1: has value and and a lot of people don't understand
- 23:17Speaker 1: that because they don't get caught up into the looks
- 23:19Speaker 1: to close the houses. The tone of the show where
- 23:23Speaker 1: the tone of the show, it's about six intelligent women
- 23:26Speaker 1: who are making inroads into this business. I'm fortunate that
- 23:29Speaker 1: I'm getting to speak to two of them. And if
- 23:31Speaker 1: you listen to this show, watching this show, I hope
- 23:33Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway is I want her to be my
- 23:35Speaker 1: closing attorney. I want her to be the person that
- 23:38Speaker 1: shows me to my next home in the city of Atlanta,
- 23:41Speaker 1: all the state of Georgia. Because relationships, you want somebody
- 23:45Speaker 1: who sells you your home to go into a room
- 23:48Speaker 1: with a closing determinant that they know. That is very
- 23:53Speaker 1: key because of the fact that if you're going and
- 23:55Speaker 1: and I have been at the something in Texas and
- 23:58Speaker 1: bought homes and Texas about homes and Houston, Georgia as well.
- 24:02Speaker 1: And I've been in the room where you know, at
- 24:04Speaker 1: persons sit across who's through the title attorney because they
- 24:08Speaker 1: have these big companies around it. You walk around it
- 24:10Speaker 1: like there's like two or three companies just dominate all
- 24:12Speaker 1: the title signings, you know, and they just strange the
- 24:14Speaker 1: like h and R block of titles. Can you shouldn't.
- 24:17Speaker 1: They don't even know who you are and they're just
- 24:19Speaker 1: gonna push the paper around you. I really appreciate the
- 24:21Speaker 1: relationship that you have and you that you bring it
- 24:24Speaker 1: into a family. I call it a family. Do you
- 24:27Speaker 1: do you agree with what I'm saying, Tiffany Um, Yes.
- 24:31Speaker 1: So it's kind of the same here. A lot of
- 24:33Speaker 1: people look at this as a process that the business transaction.
- 24:37Speaker 1: I've worked for several um different attorneys where it was
- 24:40Speaker 1: it was just the meal, like we get people and
- 24:43Speaker 1: we get them out. I kind of even though we
- 24:46Speaker 1: do the same thing here, I've kind of slowed it
- 24:49Speaker 1: down a little bit. I implemented closings where we actually
- 24:53Speaker 1: celebrate the buyer and the seller. So we'll have champagne here,
- 24:57Speaker 1: we will have parties. Sometimes we will have just different
- 25:00Speaker 1: celebrations to let the buyer know, like you made it
- 25:03Speaker 1: this far, this is a celebration. This is not just
- 25:06Speaker 1: a business transaction. We take um pictures of the buyers
- 25:11Speaker 1: when they're here, and we have a key chain where
- 25:15Speaker 1: we document their closing and we give that to them
- 25:19Speaker 1: as a gift. It's a personal, small gesture, but it
- 25:22Speaker 1: lets them know that you're not just another person walking
- 25:26Speaker 1: in here. We appreciate you, we are excited for you,
- 25:29Speaker 1: and we are going to celebrate you at the Halls
- 25:32Speaker 1: Law Firm. So yeah, you do have these big title
- 25:35Speaker 1: companies where it's just business. Well here it's not just business.
- 25:39Speaker 1: You become a part of our family and we celebrate
- 25:42Speaker 1: your family. And you're closing on your home. Well, you know,
- 25:45Speaker 1: I want to close interview, but just switching over to
- 25:48Speaker 1: Tianna Harrison, I said, earlier in your academic career, you
- 25:52Speaker 1: spend time at Tennessee State University. We all know now
- 25:55Speaker 1: you graduated from Georgia and Athens bulldog National champion. But
- 26:00Speaker 1: also know that the publicity UH and the HBC s
- 26:04Speaker 1: you are getting HBC schools are getting factor also a
- 26:06Speaker 1: weekended to HBCU game. And so when you look at that,
- 26:10Speaker 1: what do your what is your take on the surge
- 26:14Speaker 1: of information is being distributed and being promoted by HBCUs.
- 26:19Speaker 1: I think that it is amazing that they're getting this
- 26:22Speaker 1: publicity um for HBC USE because I think it's a
- 26:26Speaker 1: long time coming. Um. I am a My mother attended
- 26:31Speaker 1: an h VCU. She attended Tennessee State University. Um, my
- 26:35Speaker 1: cousins are I mean down the line. My cousin is
- 26:41Speaker 1: Wilma Rudolph, who is an Olympian. Um, a famous Olympian
- 26:46Speaker 1: who attended Tennessee State University. And so as far as HBCU,
- 26:52Speaker 1: HBCUs and the attention that they're garnering, I think that
- 26:55Speaker 1: it's just a long time coming and I am excited
- 26:58Speaker 1: to see what the future holds because of what has
- 27:03Speaker 1: existed within the you know, collegiate realm of athletes that
- 27:09Speaker 1: have gone to predominantly white universities. And now there's a
- 27:13Speaker 1: switch up. And at a certain point in time there
- 27:16Speaker 1: must always be a pivot and a switch up. And
- 27:18Speaker 1: we're gonna see what happens next. That's awesome. Also, I
- 27:22Speaker 1: want to thank both of you guys who are coming
- 27:24Speaker 1: to your ladies give that pass. We've seen guys Ladies
- 27:27Speaker 1: who List Atlanta Tiffany Haws and Tiana harrison Is on
- 27:30Speaker 1: the own network. They're fantastic. I know we talked more
- 27:33Speaker 1: about them than this show, but they are the show.
- 27:35Speaker 1: They are two of the fantastic stars of the show's
- 27:39Speaker 1: Ladies who List Atlanta please come back on my show.
- 27:42Speaker 1: I really appreciated the time and the energy and y'all
- 27:45Speaker 1: good talkers too. I love that again, if you want
- 27:49Speaker 1: to listen to you, we appreciate your Rishi because you
- 27:53Speaker 1: know when we when the two of us get together,
- 27:55Speaker 1: we will be here all days. Well that's my mom
- 27:58Speaker 1: will bring y'all back. Y'all. I love talking to y'all.
- 28:01Speaker 1: We will be right back with more money Making Conversation
- 28:04Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned into the money
- 28:08Speaker 1: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. I'm with
- 28:13Speaker 1: Sean McDonald for Money Making Conversation masterclass with your daily
- 28:15Speaker 1: Made of Inspiration. I sat down with Olympic medalists, entrepreneur
- 28:19Speaker 1: and author empty Hab Mohammed. She details what inspired her
- 28:23Speaker 1: as a youth, her journey and having a young reader's
- 28:26Speaker 1: version of her book. Well, it's always been important for
- 28:30Speaker 1: me to hopefully inspire our youth, in particular with my journey,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and I thought, what better way to do that than
- 28:38Speaker 1: to have a young reader's position. I remember, you know,
- 28:42Speaker 1: growing up and having these moments where you know the
- 28:45Speaker 1: behavior of your friends and the people around you can
- 28:48Speaker 1: affect how you feel about yourself, and we all, you know,
- 28:52Speaker 1: need that push sometimes maybe you can find inspiration, maybe
- 28:56Speaker 1: in my story from someone in in your life. You
- 29:00Speaker 1: can listen to the four interview with empty Hard Mohammed.
- 29:03Speaker 1: It's available on money Making Conversation dot com. Now let's
- 29:06Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald. Let me
- 29:09Speaker 1: introduce everybody who I'm talking to. Uh, he's a little brother.
- 29:13Speaker 1: He's a friend for turning to the brother. He's my
- 29:15Speaker 1: next guest on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. He's Terrence Jay.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Give a little background on him. He's three times Emmy nominated.
- 29:22Speaker 1: There's no stranger to the entertainment world. With seventeen years
- 29:25Speaker 1: in the industry, from hosting to acting in worldwide box
- 29:28Speaker 1: office hit films like Think Like a Man, Think Like
- 29:31Speaker 1: a Man to The Perfect Match Star You know the floor.
- 29:34Speaker 1: On BT he has hosted from everything from the Oscar's Grammys,
- 29:40Speaker 1: Gloden Globe. He's been on the sidelines of BT Awards.
- 29:44Speaker 1: He just finished. If you hadn't saw him on Power Confidential,
- 29:47Speaker 1: you know that took him do another level. Here's a
- 29:49Speaker 1: Power Confidential. But I can't get too excited because we're
- 29:52Speaker 1: doing our NPR. You gotta say at the third level,
- 29:54Speaker 1: but more important he's a graduate level HBCU and more importantly,
- 29:58Speaker 1: he's a person who is in brand ambassador for the
- 30:00Speaker 1: Thurgood Marshall College Front. Please walking to Money Making Conversation Masterclass,
- 30:04Speaker 1: the one and only Terence Jay. Always a pleasure, brother.
- 30:09Speaker 1: How you doing well? I'm doing because I'm very excited
- 30:11Speaker 1: to get you on the show, Terrence one. Just watching
- 30:14Speaker 1: you grow as a as an individual, just watching you
- 30:17Speaker 1: your career. You know we've had times and set aside,
- 30:21Speaker 1: uh what we talked about, how you got here. And
- 30:23Speaker 1: one of the things that I do on Money Making
- 30:25Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass, I always like to people to hear stories
- 30:28Speaker 1: about overcoming the odds and persevering. And you will host
- 30:32Speaker 1: to one of the longest running countdown shows in BT history,
- 30:35Speaker 1: one of those six in Park. And if you have time,
- 30:38Speaker 1: I love for people for you to share with my
- 30:40Speaker 1: viewers and my listeners in this case my listeners, how
- 30:44Speaker 1: that came about, how you went against the odds it
- 30:47Speaker 1: was able to land the opportunity to be the host
- 30:49Speaker 1: of that show. Oh man, I appreciate it, and it's
- 30:53Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure, uh talk with one of my
- 30:56Speaker 1: personal mentors. Um you so uh so, yeah, So I
- 31:00Speaker 1: I graduated UM from college and I was working at
- 31:04Speaker 1: a job that I didn't love, and everybody told me that,
- 31:08Speaker 1: you know, I needed to just work someplace where I
- 31:10Speaker 1: can have a you know, four O one K and
- 31:13Speaker 1: have my bills paid on time. But I wasn't really
- 31:15Speaker 1: following what I was passionate about. So my friend told
- 31:19Speaker 1: me that there was an audition happening in New York
- 31:22Speaker 1: for b ET, and I took all the money on
- 31:25Speaker 1: my savings and I just flew up there and went
- 31:28Speaker 1: to the audition. But on the first rounds of the auditions,
- 31:32Speaker 1: I was super nervous, uh and I fumbled it. You know,
- 31:35Speaker 1: I went in there, I kind of stuttered through the
- 31:37Speaker 1: script and they handed everybody um papers with either a
- 31:43Speaker 1: green check or a red X. And I got a
- 31:46Speaker 1: red X on my paper, and you know that means
- 31:49Speaker 1: I didn't make it to the next round. But the
- 31:51Speaker 1: guy that was in front of me in line got
- 31:54Speaker 1: a green check on his paper, And I said to myself, Man,
- 31:58Speaker 1: if the guy right there can make it to the
- 32:00Speaker 1: next line, I had to the next part of it.
- 32:04Speaker 1: I at least got to try to get over the
- 32:07Speaker 1: first you know, the first round, and so I drove
- 32:12Speaker 1: from New York down to Atlanta and I tried it again,
- 32:15Speaker 1: but this time I knew what to expect. I knew
- 32:18Speaker 1: what they were gonna ask me. Um, and all I
- 32:21Speaker 1: was trying to do, I wasn't trying to get on
- 32:23Speaker 1: the show. I was just like, I just want to
- 32:24Speaker 1: make it to the next round, and just going that
- 32:27Speaker 1: extra step. I made it from that round to the
- 32:31Speaker 1: next round, to the next round to the next round,
- 32:33Speaker 1: and then eventually, UM, you know, I got the show
- 32:35Speaker 1: and my life changed. But I always tell people, don't
- 32:38Speaker 1: try to build a wall, just try to individually lay
- 32:42Speaker 1: down each brick day by day, and um, and you know,
- 32:45Speaker 1: my life changed from there after I got that that
- 32:48Speaker 1: that one gig. Well, your life changed also because you
- 32:51Speaker 1: went to an HBCU. And before we respond to that,
- 32:54Speaker 1: when I see the explosion of media about HBC he
- 33:00Speaker 1: US and you know, you've always bragged about coming from
- 33:03Speaker 1: an HBC ever since I've known you. That's that's been
- 33:05Speaker 1: at the time, you know, And so now you see
- 33:08Speaker 1: it coming out and you see the like this recently
- 33:12Speaker 1: this weekend, they had uh ANHBCU game during the All
- 33:15Speaker 1: Star weekend, So what are you talking when you here
- 33:18Speaker 1: HBCUs being promoted and being being being finally getting this
- 33:23Speaker 1: academic place in the conversation of education. Oh, I love it, man,
- 33:29Speaker 1: you know, better late than never, right. Uh. These institutions,
- 33:33Speaker 1: you know, for over a hundred years, Uh in some
- 33:36Speaker 1: cases have been doing amazing work, uh with African Americans
- 33:42Speaker 1: in in the community. UM, providing opportunities. You know, I
- 33:46Speaker 1: didn't get I applied when I was in North Carolina.
- 33:49Speaker 1: I applied to NC State and North Carolina UNC, and
- 33:53Speaker 1: I didn't get accepted into either school because I wasn't
- 33:57Speaker 1: academically where I needed to be. But a t took
- 34:00Speaker 1: a chance on me. And because in HBC you took
- 34:03Speaker 1: that chance on me, you know, it led to all
- 34:06Speaker 1: the things that came after it in my life and
- 34:08Speaker 1: in my career. And so I love that, you know,
- 34:12Speaker 1: the national spotlight is finally kind of on HBCUs right now.
- 34:16Speaker 1: I love every time I see somebody like j R.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Smith who started going to a T or you know,
- 34:22Speaker 1: Chris Paul, you know, wearing HBCU stuff at games. I
- 34:26Speaker 1: love seeing the explosion that's taking place now. And I
- 34:29Speaker 1: just hope you know, more and more good students go
- 34:32Speaker 1: so that we can get more and more sponsorship and
- 34:35Speaker 1: funding and endowments and uh, you know, our schools can
- 34:39Speaker 1: just continue to thrive. The first you remember a mega
- 34:41Speaker 1: sci fi fraternity incorporated. We know what that's based on.
- 34:43Speaker 1: It for cardinal principles and the one of the one
- 34:47Speaker 1: of the basis of this community and one of the
- 34:49Speaker 1: basis of this uplift and so thurgand Marshall was about
- 34:53Speaker 1: uplifting young students academically and giving them so they won't
- 34:57Speaker 1: leave school with college debt. What brought you into that
- 35:00Speaker 1: relationship with the third of Marshall College from Terrence Ja
- 35:04Speaker 1: so Sean. So, when I was a freshman at A
- 35:07Speaker 1: and T, I, like I said, my school work wasn't
- 35:11Speaker 1: where I needed to be. I was so interested in
- 35:14Speaker 1: you know, other things and party and hanging out that
- 35:17Speaker 1: I wasn't where I needed to be academically. Um. So,
- 35:20Speaker 1: I was on academic probation and I had a professor
- 35:24Speaker 1: who you know, I was gonna get kicked out of school.
- 35:27Speaker 1: And I had a professor that said, listen, there's something
- 35:30Speaker 1: special about you. You know I was. I was already
- 35:34Speaker 1: interning at the on campus radio station, and she said,
- 35:37Speaker 1: I need you to focus on your school work. I'm
- 35:40Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna uh set you. I'm gonna write your
- 35:43Speaker 1: letter to get this internship, but you gotta promise me
- 35:46Speaker 1: to turn your grades around. And so I was a
- 35:49Speaker 1: member of the Thurgood Marshall College from I received an
- 35:52Speaker 1: actual scholarship that kept me in school. And that next semester,
- 35:57Speaker 1: um I met some you know, some really interesting people
- 36:00Speaker 1: and started my grade started changing around. By the time
- 36:04Speaker 1: I graduated college, I had a three point a g
- 36:07Speaker 1: p A. I was student body president and then like
- 36:10Speaker 1: the Omega side five, you know, the scholarship and changed
- 36:13Speaker 1: my life. I had some I got some really smart
- 36:16Speaker 1: lawn brothers that really helped, you know me changed my life.
- 36:19Speaker 1: And so the third and Marshall College Fund is what
- 36:23Speaker 1: kept me in school. And so I always said, the
- 36:26Speaker 1: moment I get on, the moment I you know, got
- 36:29Speaker 1: got my foot in the door, I wanted to continue
- 36:31Speaker 1: to get back. And so now it's just it's a
- 36:33Speaker 1: privilege to work with Andrea and the whole organization. Um
- 36:37Speaker 1: uh and and you know I love giving back and
- 36:40Speaker 1: and doing programs with them every year. Great when she's
- 36:44Speaker 1: on the whole she's been listening to this interview. I'm
- 36:46Speaker 1: gonna bring on board so we can just share the
- 36:48Speaker 1: thoughts together. Here. She's been on the show before, by
- 36:51Speaker 1: the way, Terence J. And she knows what I my
- 36:54Speaker 1: passion for HBCUs and my belief that you don't if
- 36:58Speaker 1: you can't help people, that they don't know what you're
- 37:00Speaker 1: trying to do. And that's the purpose of interview, you know,
- 37:03Speaker 1: to learn about because people doubt so much because you know,
- 37:06Speaker 1: through promotion and hype, it gives incredibility. And so by
- 37:10Speaker 1: getting you on the show today, you know hearing your
- 37:13Speaker 1: story and it's an incredible story that you're revealing to
- 37:16Speaker 1: us because all we know is celebrity Terrence J. All
- 37:19Speaker 1: we know is hosting no TV Terrence Jay, executive producer,
- 37:22Speaker 1: Terrence J. Not that journey. That's why I started out
- 37:25Speaker 1: and let everybody know how he how he turned it
- 37:29Speaker 1: around through Max effort. He got rejected to New York,
- 37:31Speaker 1: then drove down to Atlanta audition all over again, not
- 37:35Speaker 1: knowing he's gonna make it happen. So let's bring in
- 37:38Speaker 1: Andrew Horton. How are you doing, miss Horton? I good
- 37:43Speaker 1: after now, well, great first of all Ms Horton, Uh,
- 37:47Speaker 1: welcome back. You know you on you on the phone
- 37:49Speaker 1: with uh, you know with two Omega man, Uh, Terence
- 37:53Speaker 1: J a young Maga man and old old Maka man
- 37:57Speaker 1: and ray Sean McDonald. How are you doing. I'm doing fantastic. Well,
- 38:03Speaker 1: your your graduate spellman. Tell us about that the experience
- 38:07Speaker 1: of miss Horton coming from the expellment. Already, Terence and
- 38:10Speaker 1: already told us he's a graduate of North Carolina. North
- 38:13Speaker 1: Carolina and t talk about that whole world of being
- 38:16Speaker 1: in the HBCU and an importance of just black seeking
- 38:19Speaker 1: a higher education and achieving black excellence. Oh. Absolutely, so,
- 38:24Speaker 1: it's fun, It's ironic. I just returned from Cleveland from
- 38:27Speaker 1: the All Star Game, and I'm from the Cleveland area
- 38:30Speaker 1: of a small town called Aleria, and I had a
- 38:34Speaker 1: chance to go home and visit my high school and
- 38:37Speaker 1: just had a really great experience in my hometown. But
- 38:40Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is I went to a
- 38:42Speaker 1: predominantly white high school, lived in a predominantly white town,
- 38:46Speaker 1: and I did very well, enjoyed my upbringing. But as
- 38:49Speaker 1: I advanced academically and um socially, I really wanted to
- 38:57Speaker 1: learn more about my culture as I I'll continue to
- 39:00Speaker 1: challenge myself academically. So for me, the only choice was
- 39:05Speaker 1: Spellman and that's the only institution I applied to early decisions,
- 39:10Speaker 1: and I was fortunate enough to be accepted, uh and
- 39:14Speaker 1: was able to join the ranks of other Spellman women
- 39:17Speaker 1: seaking the same thing. Now, now, Terrice, You're you're from
- 39:20Speaker 1: New York right? Uh? Yeah? Yeah, I was born in
- 39:24Speaker 1: New York. Okay, were you living in New York? Were
- 39:26Speaker 1: you applied for North Carolina Anti? No? So I moved
- 39:30Speaker 1: down to North Carolina when I turned a teenager. When
- 39:34Speaker 1: I was a teenager, so I was already in states,
- 39:37Speaker 1: um when I applied for ANTI. Okay, was that your
- 39:39Speaker 1: only option that you you like? Like, Miss Horton just
- 39:43Speaker 1: said chief you know, let me just let everybody know.
- 39:45Speaker 1: Miss Horton is the chief marketing Officer for the third
- 39:48Speaker 1: third Good Marshall College Fund, and she's on the show
- 39:51Speaker 1: because the fact we're trying to get the word out
- 39:54Speaker 1: and we're also just letting everybody with the third Good
- 39:56Speaker 1: Marshall College Fund is doing. But more important, we try
- 39:58Speaker 1: to bring on relatable people, people that have recognizable names
- 40:02Speaker 1: and doing recognizable causes and we need to let everybody
- 40:05Speaker 1: know that these causes that they that they represent can
- 40:08Speaker 1: benefit your child and actually can benefit you depending on
- 40:11Speaker 1: your age. And so when you had the opportunity to
- 40:14Speaker 1: go to North Carolina Anti, where you looking at other
- 40:15Speaker 1: schools like like she said, Spellman, was that what was
- 40:18Speaker 1: what was your point of view? We'll see. Ms. Horton
- 40:21Speaker 1: is way much more buttoned up than I am. He's
- 40:29Speaker 1: a very impressive person when you need very impressive. I
- 40:36Speaker 1: was just hanging on by a my mom, my mom
- 40:42Speaker 1: who's also you know, very impressive. She wanted me to
- 40:45Speaker 1: go to college and I, you know, I didn't and
- 40:48Speaker 1: so I applied to a bunch of schools, but you know,
- 40:51Speaker 1: I didn't get accepted, and so uh yeah, A and
- 40:54Speaker 1: T took a chance on me. And that's why I
- 40:56Speaker 1: love HPCU so much because if it wasn't for them,
- 41:00Speaker 1: I never would have had the experience in Sern of
- 41:02Speaker 1: my life around well I you know, so I know her.
- 41:05Speaker 1: I met her at the on the campus of who
- 41:07Speaker 1: was doing an event, uh HBCU College Day that we
- 41:10Speaker 1: were producing and what's the Salem what's the Salem State?
- 41:13Speaker 1: And that's where I met her and she impressed me
- 41:16Speaker 1: so much that we've been friends. You know, she might
- 41:18Speaker 1: not consider me a friend, but she my friend. Though
- 41:21Speaker 1: she's my friend because because I've drug her on the radio,
- 41:25Speaker 1: just the second time I drug. She can't say no
- 41:27Speaker 1: to me because I believe so much and what we're
- 41:29Speaker 1: trying to do. Because in the end we all know,
- 41:33Speaker 1: like I said, I was that same guy. You know,
- 41:35Speaker 1: I didn't go to HBCU, but I'm very much aware
- 41:37Speaker 1: of the brand association with and what they're creating at
- 41:40Speaker 1: a Black excellent. I always tell people, you know, fifth
- 41:42Speaker 1: percent of the high school teachers are from HBCUs, eight
- 41:45Speaker 1: percent of the doctors from HBCUs, eight percent of the
- 41:48Speaker 1: dentists from HBCU, sent percent of the lawyers, you know, hbcent,
- 41:53Speaker 1: eight percent members of Congress from HBCUs. Those numbers don't
- 41:56Speaker 1: lie of the STEM graduates from HBCUs. Those numbers of
- 42:01Speaker 1: my is my mission. Those numbers are my goal because
- 42:04Speaker 1: the fact that if people don't know that, then they
- 42:07Speaker 1: don't think all they think of when the HPC is
- 42:09Speaker 1: the marching bands, they think of the football, they think
- 42:11Speaker 1: of the revelry, when it's really the academics. That's the key.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Here because of the fact that you said that you
- 42:18Speaker 1: you graduated with honors. That was a turnaround from you
- 42:22Speaker 1: because somebody saw something in you. Correct, Terrence JA, Correct, Yeah,
- 42:26Speaker 1: that's that's it. You know, somebody like Ms Harton honestly
- 42:30Speaker 1: who who saw the potential um and and gave me
- 42:33Speaker 1: the opportunity. And then once you have that opportunity, it's
- 42:36Speaker 1: up to you to take it, you know. Now it's
- 42:39Speaker 1: at the basis of the core why the third Orld
- 42:41Speaker 1: Marshall College Fund exists, Miss Horton. So, um, yes it is.
- 42:49Speaker 1: And we have other other you know, other parts of
- 42:52Speaker 1: our mentioned that we strive for as well. But I
- 42:56Speaker 1: do want to go back and share something about hbc
- 42:58Speaker 1: S in general. It's the magic of HBCUs is that,
- 43:03Speaker 1: as Terence Jay said, um, HBCUs can take the student
- 43:09Speaker 1: who is academically advanced to an average student, to a
- 43:14Speaker 1: below average student and really help them find themselves and
- 43:19Speaker 1: really come into their own identity. One of the big
- 43:22Speaker 1: things that I love about HBCUs is that they take
- 43:26Speaker 1: students from all backgrounds and really help them become their
- 43:30Speaker 1: best outs. HBCU students are fifty one more likely to
- 43:37Speaker 1: end up in higher income quince House upon graduation. So
- 43:42Speaker 1: no matter where you start, whether you start from UM
- 43:45Speaker 1: an average income family and below average income family or not,
- 43:49Speaker 1: HBCUs have that holistic education that really help you academically, socially,
- 43:55Speaker 1: professionally and really position you to be successful after graduation.
- 44:00Speaker 1: And that's the magic of HBCUs. As far as the
- 44:02Speaker 1: they're good Marshall College Funds, our goal is really one
- 44:06Speaker 1: to support the institutions HPCU institutions and make sure that
- 44:11Speaker 1: they are sustainable because they are important, UM highly important
- 44:15Speaker 1: to our community and all those who have a dream
- 44:18Speaker 1: of attending college. And then secondly we want to support
- 44:22Speaker 1: the students and scholarships is a huge way that we
- 44:26Speaker 1: support students to ensure that they can complete their college
- 44:30Speaker 1: degree with minimal student on debt. We'll be right back
- 44:33Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now
- 44:41Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald,
- 44:46Speaker 1: talk about scholarship opportunities. Where can we go as a
- 44:49Speaker 1: number we can call or when I said, we am
- 44:51Speaker 1: talking about myself so I can have access to it,
- 44:53Speaker 1: to put it on my social media, to put it
- 44:55Speaker 1: on my email, on my newsletters and things like that
- 44:58Speaker 1: to promote the opportunit because the worst thing in the
- 45:01Speaker 1: world is to go to college and walk away with debt,
- 45:03Speaker 1: and this is a scholarship will allow you that opportunity
- 45:06Speaker 1: to do that. So help me out a little bit
- 45:07Speaker 1: by giving me information on how these scholarship opportunities can
- 45:10Speaker 1: be reached. Sure, you can go to our website www
- 45:15Speaker 1: dot t MCF dot org and you click on students
- 45:21Speaker 1: slash alum nine and then click on scholarship and then
- 45:25Speaker 1: that scholarship portal um your listeners can really see all
- 45:29Speaker 1: of the scholarship opportunities that we have available. Over the
- 45:33Speaker 1: last twelve months, we more than double the amount of
- 45:36Speaker 1: scholarship programs that we have available for students attending HBCUs
- 45:41Speaker 1: and we even have a few scholarships for students who
- 45:44Speaker 1: decide to attend other institutions, but the money follows them
- 45:47Speaker 1: where they decided to go. Now I'm going Terence, I
- 45:50Speaker 1: want to just ask you one question as we as
- 45:52Speaker 1: we close out this interview, what what what makes you feel?
- 45:56Speaker 1: What's the passion? You know? Because you mentioned the fact
- 45:59Speaker 1: that you are a recipient of a third Good Marshall
- 46:03Speaker 1: College funds scholarship, So what what what what? What? What?
- 46:07Speaker 1: What drives that? And what what encouragement do you give
- 46:10Speaker 1: somebody who's listening to a parent or maybe even a student. UH.
- 46:15Speaker 1: And the benefits of this type of scholarship outside of
- 46:18Speaker 1: just paying for your classes allowing you to graduate from
- 46:23Speaker 1: school debt free, well, you know, tim's hard. You know,
- 46:28Speaker 1: the the economy is in a very difficult place, you know, UM,
- 46:32Speaker 1: and every bit helps, and when you have programs, you know,
- 46:36Speaker 1: set up to assist, it's important to take advantage of them.
- 46:39Speaker 1: You know, these student tuitions are really high, these books,
- 46:42Speaker 1: these programs, they're really expensive, and so you know, to
- 46:46Speaker 1: alleviate some of that stress, there's incredible organizations like the
- 46:50Speaker 1: Third Good Marshall College Fund that that can can help
- 46:54Speaker 1: and assist. And they don't just have programs that are
- 46:56Speaker 1: just for you know, your your school work. They also
- 46:59Speaker 1: have internship programs, job placement programs. You know, we do
- 47:04Speaker 1: mentors ship programs. I had an intern come from it
- 47:08Speaker 1: came to l A and and and you know, spent
- 47:11Speaker 1: the whole summer with me. You know, because there's a
- 47:13Speaker 1: bunch of different UH programs. If you go to the
- 47:17Speaker 1: Third and Marshall UH College from website the TMCF dot org.
- 47:21Speaker 1: So I just for me, I made a promise to
- 47:23Speaker 1: myself back then, UH that I would always I would
- 47:26Speaker 1: never forget where I came from, and I would never
- 47:28Speaker 1: forget those that helped me. And this organization has been
- 47:32Speaker 1: a pleasure for me because they always find incredible students
- 47:36Speaker 1: and they always you know, I know all I know
- 47:38Speaker 1: when I do donate, all of the money goes to
- 47:40Speaker 1: the right place. And I think for all of the
- 47:43Speaker 1: parents out there, you know, if your students are are
- 47:46Speaker 1: about to go to high school, I mean, are just
- 47:48Speaker 1: graduating high school and about to go to college, you
- 47:51Speaker 1: should strongly, you know, consider and make sure that TMCF
- 47:55Speaker 1: dot org is on the top of your browser because
- 47:58Speaker 1: they have so many different programs of that that you
- 48:00Speaker 1: should take advantage of. I want to share a story
- 48:04Speaker 1: before we go with if you can share it with us,
- 48:06Speaker 1: Miss Horton. We was in Western Salem State campus and
- 48:09Speaker 1: were doing my HBCU College Day event. He was talking
- 48:12Speaker 1: about the applications where you guys really take the time
- 48:16Speaker 1: to read the applications and so this is not one
- 48:20Speaker 1: application you should be doing a cookie cutter or just
- 48:23Speaker 1: grab something you put in another application and put over there.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Talk about the screening process for these applications. Sure, that's
- 48:29Speaker 1: an important piece. And then the first thing I want
- 48:32Speaker 1: to really stress for your listeners is that our scholarships,
- 48:37Speaker 1: and many of them when you go on our website
- 48:38Speaker 1: will say our need based, so need based scholarships, but
- 48:44Speaker 1: me doesn't mean you have to be in a certain
- 48:46Speaker 1: income bracket. So although I was academically prepared for college,
- 48:51Speaker 1: I was not financially prepared for college. So I need
- 48:54Speaker 1: a financial support. And even though my parents had a
- 48:58Speaker 1: pretty good income, there was still a significant amount of
- 49:01Speaker 1: my cost of attendance that was not covered by scholarships
- 49:05Speaker 1: or any grant funding. So that means a large portion
- 49:08Speaker 1: of my my college educations had to be self paid
- 49:11Speaker 1: or paid by loans. If you're like me, you qualify
- 49:16Speaker 1: for our scholarships. You have a need. Even if your
- 49:20Speaker 1: parents make you know, three hundred thousand dollars and you
- 49:23Speaker 1: are self pay you still qualify as having need for scholarships.
- 49:29Speaker 1: So once we've established that and you go to our
- 49:32Speaker 1: portal to apply, please know that every application is read
- 49:36Speaker 1: and scored on a rubric, so that means everybody has
- 49:40Speaker 1: a chance, not about who you know, who you're connected to,
- 49:44Speaker 1: is about the quality of your application. You have too.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Many of our applications now either require an essay, but
- 49:51Speaker 1: most of them require a video response to an essay question,
- 49:55Speaker 1: so you're really verbally responding to a question. Are applications
- 50:00Speaker 1: will ask you for a letter of recommendation and then
- 50:03Speaker 1: we'll give you a score on your academic So whatever
- 50:07Speaker 1: what your g p A is, once we sort of
- 50:10Speaker 1: score all those components, the highest scores receive the scholarship.
- 50:15Speaker 1: So again, everybody has an opportunity. And I can't tell
- 50:18Speaker 1: you how many students have come up to me and said,
- 50:21Speaker 1: I started not to apply to the scholarship, but I
- 50:24Speaker 1: decided to take a chance and I got it. And
- 50:28Speaker 1: you can if you take the time to really apply
- 50:31Speaker 1: and think about the answers to your questions UH and
- 50:35Speaker 1: put your best foot forward. You really can't receive a
- 50:37Speaker 1: scholarship through the third Good Marshall College Funds. Terence J.
- 50:41Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to come on my
- 50:44Speaker 1: show one the main composition Master Glance to tell your
- 50:47Speaker 1: story and motivate. I'm motivated because you know, it's interesting
- 50:50Speaker 1: when you talk to people you think that you know
- 50:52Speaker 1: their story and you're learning more special things about it,
- 50:55Speaker 1: which makes me know why you are very special. You've
- 50:57Speaker 1: overcome the odds. Hey man. Really it's just the sincere
- 51:02Speaker 1: nature why you are successful. Just just screams in this
- 51:06Speaker 1: interview because you don't give up. You know you you,
- 51:08Speaker 1: and you know you. You've been helped along the way
- 51:10Speaker 1: and you understand that I gotta reach back and extend
- 51:13Speaker 1: the hand to pull somebody maybe even further than I've achieved.
- 51:17Speaker 1: And that's a blessing man, and you will continue to
- 51:19Speaker 1: be blessed with that thought process. And thank you for
- 51:21Speaker 1: coming on my show today. Oh man, I appreciate you
- 51:24Speaker 1: guys both. Man. I'm so excited to get the word
- 51:26Speaker 1: out and keep on doing the incredible work you're doing.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Brother um ms Horton h CMO third good match of
- 51:33Speaker 1: College Fund. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
- 51:37Speaker 1: As always, you articulated better than I can and you especial.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Just give out that website one more time for we
- 51:42Speaker 1: say goodbye www dot t m c F dot org.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Thank you both for coming on Money Making Conversation master Class.
- 51:51Speaker 1: Love you both. Thank you terms j Wow, you know
- 51:55Speaker 1: you you do this show money Making Conversation Masterclass. And
- 51:59Speaker 1: I'm just taking aback by what's happening on this show. People,
- 52:04Speaker 1: the people calling in with Dwayne Sullivan. Wow, what a story.
- 52:10Speaker 1: What a story about overcoming the odds, uh, overcoming the
- 52:14Speaker 1: prison system, overcoming and getting the education and then um
- 52:20Speaker 1: when they when they didn't hire even with the education,
- 52:22Speaker 1: that didn't qualify getting the bachelor bachelor's degree, that didn't
- 52:26Speaker 1: help him out, and then he could go online and
- 52:30Speaker 1: take a course and then he goes to a just
- 52:35Speaker 1: based on just watching observation, what you what you've learned
- 52:38Speaker 1: on this show is that it's not where people expect
- 52:41Speaker 1: you to go, it's where you wind up going. And
- 52:44Speaker 1: if you're hit in the direction, what rules are you
- 52:47Speaker 1: putting in place for you to win? That's what I'm
- 52:50Speaker 1: taking from these interviews. Then I'm getting on the show,
- 52:52Speaker 1: especially in that bragging segment, and and then to hear
- 52:56Speaker 1: about Terrence j. And his journey, you know, academic suspension
- 53:01Speaker 1: and the third grade Marshall College Fund and somebody seeing
- 53:04Speaker 1: something in him and telling him that he can be better,
- 53:07Speaker 1: he can do better, he can be special. That happened
- 53:09Speaker 1: to me, you know, somebody saw that in me because
- 53:12Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to college. I didn't want to.
- 53:14Speaker 1: I want to. I graduated from high school and got
- 53:17Speaker 1: a job as a forklift driver because I thought that's
- 53:20Speaker 1: what I that's all I saw myself was being a
- 53:23Speaker 1: forklift driver. That was my that was my that was
- 53:26Speaker 1: my peak of who I thought I could be because
- 53:29Speaker 1: the people around me who I admired, they were forklift drivers.
- 53:34Speaker 1: So it's really about the environment. And despite Dwayne Sullivan
- 53:38Speaker 1: being in an environment that was negative to him and
- 53:42Speaker 1: he was being stereotyped, he would not allow that to
- 53:45Speaker 1: happen to him, and then he developed this business all
- 53:48Speaker 1: fixed up. And it's just about the business about and
- 53:51Speaker 1: I asked to people the call in and tell them
- 53:53Speaker 1: about the tell that story when you when you hear
- 53:56Speaker 1: the story, then you you admire the accomplishment. If you're
- 54:00Speaker 1: mind accomplishment, then you want to support the cause and
- 54:03Speaker 1: the causes that you can do anything you want if
- 54:06Speaker 1: you believe in it and you have a network of
- 54:09Speaker 1: people around you, in this case was his wife who
- 54:11Speaker 1: believed in him and supporting him. And then to go
- 54:15Speaker 1: to a location not in a prominent side of the
- 54:19Speaker 1: hound where you know they can afford a cell phone repairs.
- 54:23Speaker 1: Not in the side of town where they breaking phones
- 54:26Speaker 1: left and right. He went as he said, the hood,
- 54:29Speaker 1: which we know is a less privileged community. We know
- 54:32Speaker 1: about the neighbors. I grew up with what I would characterized.
- 54:35Speaker 1: I was born in the hood Fifth War, so I
- 54:38Speaker 1: know exactly what he is talking about. An undesirable side
- 54:41Speaker 1: of town with low tax dollars. Education for blacks or
- 54:45Speaker 1: minorities are less privileged. And when you in your stereotyped.
- 54:50Speaker 1: He brought in a business and he says it's been
- 54:52Speaker 1: in seven years, But that's that's not how it started
- 54:55Speaker 1: out for Mr Duyane Sullivan. He went into a space
- 55:00Speaker 1: that they told him four previous businesses did not last
- 55:06Speaker 1: more than six months. In fact, they told him that
- 55:09Speaker 1: location that he was renting out was cursed. Seven years later,
- 55:16Speaker 1: I think he's broken the curse. You know why he's
- 55:19Speaker 1: broken the curse because he persevered. He had a network
- 55:24Speaker 1: of people around him. They believed in him. But that's
- 55:27Speaker 1: not that's just one story. Charlie Shabaz, when she came
- 55:30Speaker 1: on the show, talked about her but bakery business, and
- 55:37Speaker 1: I asked her, are you a baker? She said, Uh,
- 55:39Speaker 1: does rolling on cookie dough and cutting it up? Does
- 55:42Speaker 1: that count as a baker? Which means that she's about
- 55:46Speaker 1: to open her second location because she's done our homework,
- 55:51Speaker 1: not because somebody said this is what she's supposed to do.
- 55:54Speaker 1: She made the decision. In fact, her background is accounting.
- 55:57Speaker 1: In fact, she mentored or I guess the intern was
- 56:03Speaker 1: a c PA to learn business accounting. She gave up
- 56:07Speaker 1: for free time. And she's not even from this area.
- 56:11Speaker 1: She's from the Philadelphia area I remember correctly, and moved
- 56:14Speaker 1: down here to make a living. And now she's about
- 56:17Speaker 1: to open the second location. Not because she's an award
- 56:20Speaker 1: winning baker. Because I can I tell people I'm award
- 56:23Speaker 1: within the baker. I canna assure you I'm not opening
- 56:25Speaker 1: up a restaurant or bakery. I'm just posting pictures on
- 56:28Speaker 1: my social media. She put together a business plan, She
- 56:32Speaker 1: went to a location that she felt the business could exist,
- 56:36Speaker 1: could win at. She went over there, talk to the person,
- 56:41Speaker 1: then convinced them that she was the right person, even
- 56:43Speaker 1: though she didn't have a background as a baker, and
- 56:48Speaker 1: they came back and tour and said, okay, we're ready
- 56:50Speaker 1: for you. Then she had the race and find a location,
- 56:54Speaker 1: find a franchise that would fit for her. Now she's
- 56:59Speaker 1: about to open us like a location. And then my
- 57:01Speaker 1: other third story, I just want to bring back that
- 57:04Speaker 1: we just heard recently on Moneymaking Conversation master Class and
- 57:08Speaker 1: that bragging segment. That's a segment where I asked people
- 57:10Speaker 1: to tell us their story. I asked people to tell
- 57:13Speaker 1: us their background about why this is working for them.
- 57:18Speaker 1: Why should people be motivated to to to go outside
- 57:22Speaker 1: the world, walk through walk through that fear to stop
- 57:25Speaker 1: so many people and that fear I'm talking about the
- 57:27Speaker 1: fear of the unknown. It's Thomas Barnes. You know Apple
- 57:33Speaker 1: and UH and UH cell phone iPhone repair store. I
- 57:39Speaker 1: asked him, I said, uh. I told him my front
- 57:41Speaker 1: to look, I'm not an Apple and he said, of
- 57:44Speaker 1: his business is Apple and iPhone repairs, iPhone repair. And
- 57:49Speaker 1: I told him my front, I said, brother, I am
- 57:51Speaker 1: a PC guy and I'm an Android guy. And he
- 57:55Speaker 1: went me to which means that he did the research
- 58:03Speaker 1: in this business, not because it was something he saw
- 58:06Speaker 1: a business opportunity, but he did the research and he
- 58:10Speaker 1: bought the location, a franchise location that the top employee
- 58:16Speaker 1: is still working there and he did the research on
- 58:19Speaker 1: the traffic, He did the work research on the foot traffic,
- 58:23Speaker 1: the car traffic, he did all these things. This is
- 58:26Speaker 1: Thomas Barnes talk about his business. And I mentioned just
- 58:30Speaker 1: these three names because these three names are recent to
- 58:33Speaker 1: the show that lets me get excited about it that
- 58:36Speaker 1: I can't I can't forget. Also, Mrs Joey Johnson, the
- 58:41Speaker 1: owner of in the Craft Room, you know, just sold
- 58:44Speaker 1: her first TV show to a I. B. Plato, you know,
- 58:49Speaker 1: using playto as a craft turning into the TV show
- 58:52Speaker 1: selling it. Now she's learned, I'm not selling my shows anymore.
- 58:56Speaker 1: I'm not selling my content. I'm a license my content.
- 59:00Speaker 1: So we're gonna bring our back. This is all I'm
- 59:02Speaker 1: talking about when I talk about money making Conversation Masterclass,
- 59:06Speaker 1: I just want you to build a plan. Build your plan,
- 59:09Speaker 1: and when you build that plan, I want you to
- 59:11Speaker 1: write down your goals because you gotta be able to
- 59:13Speaker 1: say what you're gonna do. And when you write down
- 59:15Speaker 1: your goals, that starts. If your person who who doesn't
- 59:19Speaker 1: have relationship, you have to create relationship. If your person
- 59:21Speaker 1: who's a poor communicator will bring somebody in the world
- 59:24Speaker 1: that knows how to communicate. If you're the person who
- 59:26Speaker 1: who doesn't get up at a consistent time, you gotta
- 59:29Speaker 1: start getting up at a consistent time. If you're the
- 59:31Speaker 1: person that doesn't know how to balance the book, hire
- 59:33Speaker 1: somebody who knows how to balance their books. And then
- 59:35Speaker 1: when you're doing this, you have to learn how to
- 59:37Speaker 1: measure your progress. I want to thank you for listening
- 59:40Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. You've been listening to Money
- 59:43Speaker 1: Making Conversations with Rashan McDonald. Please join us next week
- 59:46Speaker 1: and always remember leading with your gifts. Money Making Conversations
- 59:50Speaker 1: is a presentation of thirty fifteen Media Incorporated. You are
- 59:56Speaker 1: now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. I Rushan McDonald for Money Making Conversation
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: Masterclass with your daily Made of the the Inspiration. I sat
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: down with the producer of the iconic BT Awards, Jesse Collins.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: He talked about believe it in yourself and making you
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: learn the lessons from things that don't turn out the
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: way you expect. That's really the way you gotta be
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: because you know, if if you don't believe that you
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: can do and then certainly no one else is going
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: to and no one is ever going to give you
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: the opportunity. What do you really what do you really
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: have to lose? You know, maybe maybe not everything's gonna
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: work out. Even if it doesn't succeed, at least you're
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: gonna walk away with some lessons that you wouldn't have
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: had before. And you take those lessons and you move
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: on to the next thing. You know, you look at
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: everyone around you that is uh, extremely successful, and you
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: can probably find some failures somewhere in that reson You
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: can listen to this full interview with Jesse Collins. It's
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: available on Money Making Conversations dot com