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DNA Tests Reveal Widespread Fraud, Billions Lost from Tax Payers: Inside Minnesota’s Somali Aid Scandal · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about important story, and that
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: is Somali refugees that are taking billions of dollars from you,
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  Speaker 1: the taxpayer. We know just how much money and how
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: many of them are taking your dollars, especially in Minnesota. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now the Treasury Department is ratcheting it up with investigations
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  Speaker 1: targeting the Somali community for fraud, specifically in Minnesota. The
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  Speaker 1: Treasury Department targeting businesses they say that people use to
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  Speaker 1: wire money to family members abroad, as the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: is investigating the fraud within Minnesota's Somali community, the Treasury
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of Scott Dissent, confirming on Friday. Now these new
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  Speaker 1: actions have been prompted by a series of fraud cases,
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  Speaker 1: including a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future that is accused
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  Speaker 1: of stealing pandemic aid meant for school meals. Prosecutors have
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  Speaker 1: put the losses from the case at three one hundred
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. The CENT has pointed to report by conservative
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  Speaker 1: news outlet City Journal, which claims the taxpayer dollars from
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  Speaker 1: defrauded government programs flowed to Al Shabab, an al Qaeda
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  Speaker 1: linked militant group that controls parts of Somalia. The report
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  Speaker 1: sides unnamed sources, and the allegations have not been substantiated.
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  Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors have not charged any defendants with supporting terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: On Friday, set on social media.
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  Speaker 1: That the Treasury Department will soon issue an order requiring
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  Speaker 1: money wire services that people use to send money to
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  Speaker 1: Somalia to submit additional verification to the Treasury. The Financial
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  Speaker 1: Crimes Enforcement Network, a Treasury arm that combats financial crimes
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  Speaker 1: like money laundering and terrorism financing, will also deploy to
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  Speaker 1: assist in the efforts, the Treasury Secretary stated. He added
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  Speaker 1: also that the Internal Revenue Serve would also be involved
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  Speaker 1: in looking into firms accused of engaging in fraud. Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: Treasury personnel are on the ground working hard to uncover
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: the facts, he said about why so many American tax
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  Speaker 1: dours have been going to fraud, including going to terrorist
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  Speaker 1: organizations and the money going literally back to Somalia. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Democrats were hoping that this entire scandal would disappear. It
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  Speaker 1: certainly doesn't look good for Democrats, including the governor in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: who knew that this was going on. CBS even putting
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  Speaker 1: out a report saying this way as they're describing how
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  Speaker 1: bad the abuse is.
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  Speaker 3: A honeymoon in the Maldives, a fleet of luxury cars.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars in cash. This was all evidence from a
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  Speaker 3: Neutrova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how a
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  Speaker 3: group of convicted Minnesota fraudsters spent taxpayer dollars. One text
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  Speaker 3: message reads, you are going to be the richest twenty
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  Speaker 3: five year old.
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  Speaker 4: We're not even at the end of the beginning of
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  Speaker 4: our pursuit of the stolen money and of the people
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  Speaker 4: who stole it.
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  Speaker 3: US Attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the
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  Speaker 3: wave of covid era fraud that hit Minnesota. So how
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  Speaker 3: much money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer?
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  Speaker 4: I can say with great comfort, well and excessive a
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  Speaker 4: billion dollars.
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  Speaker 3: In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged,
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  Speaker 3: sixty one convicted. The majority of them are Somali American
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are
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  Speaker 3: accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed
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  Speaker 3: low income kids, house the disabled, and provide services to
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  Speaker 3: autistic children.
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  Speaker 2: This was a get rich scheme.
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  Speaker 3: Andy Luger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud.
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  Speaker 3: He left in January.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things we discovered is that a number
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  Speaker 5: of the people involved we're buying investment property, resort property
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  Speaker 5: in Kenya.
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  Speaker 3: Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than
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  Speaker 3: one million dollars went to Chinese banks. The Trump administration
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  Speaker 3: has said it's investigating whether any of the money fell
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  Speaker 3: into the hands of terror groups like al Shabab and Somalia.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to that CBS report and you can see
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  Speaker 1: just how bad the corruption is. Not only how bad
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  Speaker 1: the corruption is, but also the fact that there has
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  Speaker 1: been a long history of it and the governor was
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  Speaker 1: looking the other way. Tim Waltz now on Defense saying
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  Speaker 1: this about the Somali community at a press conference today.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to hear.
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  Speaker 6: More from members of leaders from the small community to say,
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  Speaker 6: we need to hold our we need to look at ourselves,
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  Speaker 6: we need to pull our own neighbor's cowls a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: The damage that this is donst What do you want
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  Speaker 6: to hear more from a said I just saying don't
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  Speaker 6: blame us.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to see.
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  Speaker 3: More O oversight?
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  Speaker 5: Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of white men. Should be holding a
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  Speaker 5: lot of white men accountable for the crimes that they
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  Speaker 5: have committed. I think for the community to maybe educate
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  Speaker 5: their population, because I think what you're seeing here is
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  Speaker 5: there are secondary victims in this, that there's dividers inside
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  Speaker 5: the community that are then victimizing the community himself by
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  Speaker 5: signing them up. Because when we're going to some of
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  Speaker 5: these people, they're like, I had no idea I was
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  Speaker 5: in this program. So I think it's asking us, then,
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  Speaker 5: you know, for every crime, which of course the majority
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  Speaker 5: being committed by white men, asking us to do more
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  Speaker 5: about that. I think it's crime in general. And I
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  Speaker 5: think the biggest thing on this is is just making
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  Speaker 5: sure that we're educating the population. And again, this is
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  Speaker 5: eighty people or so that have been convicted in this,
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  Speaker 5: maybe some more in that out of.
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  Speaker 1: A you listen to Waltz there if some alli communities
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  Speaker 1: should hold their own accountable. Quote, a lot of white
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  Speaker 1: men should be holding white men accountable. This is still
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  Speaker 1: a governor that is trying to turn this into some
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  Speaker 1: racial issue instead of a massive fraud issue. There is
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  Speaker 1: fraud in the smalling community. They figured out how defraud
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  Speaker 1: a federal government. The people that are coming into Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: are understanding how to grab American dollars and send them
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  Speaker 1: back home to not only family members, but to literal
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  Speaker 1: terrorist organizations Al Shabab. Tim Waltz saying this as well
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  Speaker 1: as TV owner, is.
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  Speaker 6: The welch and spoiled or can you count on flow
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  Speaker 6: issue with the Usury's.
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  Speaker 5: Office here one hundred percent that well is not spoil.
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  Speaker 5: I would let Drew talk to that, and I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to say that in the midst of what's very clearly
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  Speaker 5: a vindictive attack on Minnesota from this administration, I will
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  Speaker 5: say this, the bright point on this has been the
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  Speaker 5: US Attorney's Office, and you saw that when Andy Lueger left,
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  Speaker 5: we never missed a beat to Joe Thompson and they
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  Speaker 5: have been good part And I'll let Drew talk by
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  Speaker 5: that he worked with them and we have talked about this,
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  Speaker 5: and look, I have to assess this too. I understand
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  Speaker 5: when I speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness
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  Speaker 5: to Minnesota. And this is all about coming and attacking us.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't know anything about this. He doesn't know how
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  Speaker 5: medicaid program works. The only thing he knows about is
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  Speaker 5: going to double the cost over the next week. But
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't know how these programs work or anything about it.
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  Speaker 5: So he heard and somebody told him the Somalis are
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  Speaker 5: stealing money and they're not doing anything about Throw it
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  Speaker 5: up there. That's not how the US Attorney's office works.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to Tim Waltz and he's saying it yet again,
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  Speaker 1: this is vindictive. So all the waste, all the fraud,
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  Speaker 1: all the abuse, sending many to terrorists. Tim Waltz is
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  Speaker 1: telling you, he's telling the American people, no, no, no, this
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  Speaker 1: is really about vindictive Donald Trump. So then if that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, why did moments later he say this, So if.
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  Speaker 5: You try and commit fraud Minnesota, and there's folks out
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  Speaker 5: there listening right now, you are going to prison eventually.
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing on this is is you'll
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  Speaker 5: hear from some of the experts here. Many of these programs,
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  Speaker 5: especially federal Medicaid and medicare plagues every state, And when
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  Speaker 5: you set down and dig into this, it takes weeks
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  Speaker 5: and weeks and weeks, and actually it takes years to
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  Speaker 5: become experts in this. These are programs that have been
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  Speaker 5: layered up in a spider web over the years. That
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  Speaker 5: makes it incredibly difficult, and I think unwinding those are
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  Speaker 5: bringing about the integrity. It's the reason why we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: federal agencies under the Trump administration acknowledge the work that's
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  Speaker 5: being done, acknowledge that these things are better, and actually
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  Speaker 5: suggesting in other states when I talk to them about
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  Speaker 5: implementing that, because they're going to deal with it. COVID
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  Speaker 5: moved a lot of money very very quickly, and our
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  Speaker 5: goal was to make sure we were moving that money
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  Speaker 5: so that people ate that they were housed, that they
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  Speaker 5: had vaccines. But it also opened up the door to
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  Speaker 5: relax the guardrails and to have fraud be committed.
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  Speaker 1: So there it is the governor yet again blaming everybody
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  Speaker 1: else but himself, and that is why this has become
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  Speaker 1: such a massive problem yet again, when there's very clear
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  Speaker 1: fraud at a level that is a scanner that is broken,
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  Speaker 1: that is putting his governorship in real peril. He's saying
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  Speaker 1: this is somehow just Donald Trump's fault. It's vindictiveness, but eventually,
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  Speaker 1: as he describes, if you're breaking law, yeah, okay, you'll
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  Speaker 1: go to jail, and then immediately goes back to playing politics.
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  Speaker 1: I look at this governor and he goes back to
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  Speaker 1: say one final thing, giving another excuse for why this happened.
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  Speaker 1: This time, he's not blaming the fact that he and
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  Speaker 1: the people around him refuse to look at the Somali
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  Speaker 1: community for what they are doing in the crimes of
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  Speaker 1: committing No, no, you want to know what he says.
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  Speaker 1: The real problem is, you know, he's actually blaming for
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  Speaker 1: the waste, fraud and abuse and the money going to
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  Speaker 1: terrorist organizations. He says, it's a e's fault. I'm not joking.
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  Speaker 1: This is his final excuse.
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  Speaker 5: Any amount of fraud is too much. That's where over
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  Speaker 5: the last several years, we've made many systematic changes to
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  Speaker 5: state government to both detect fraud and hold thoseccountable after
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  Speaker 5: it happened year after year. We brought new ideas to
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  Speaker 5: the legislature to stay ahead of the evolving tactics, and
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  Speaker 5: they are evolving. AI poses immense challenges in the fraud space.
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  Speaker 5: We sought top to bottom change in state government to
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  Speaker 5: create stronger oversite. We leveraged outside experts, we modernize technology
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  Speaker 5: and hold criminals accountable.
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  Speaker 1: So there it is a governor seeing billions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: stowing from the American people, and he says it's a
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy and Trump is the problem by trying to crack
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  Speaker 1: down on it. He then says, it's not actually happening,
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  Speaker 1: but if it is happening, eventually you will get put
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  Speaker 1: in jail eventually. And then he says, it's really AI's
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  Speaker 1: problem that this is happening, not the government for allowing
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  Speaker 1: it to happen in Minnesota. If you want to know
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  Speaker 1: how broken Minnesota is, this is a perfect example of
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  Speaker 1: it and exactly why the Treasury Department, the IRS, and
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  Speaker 1: the federal government is involved under Trump's leadership, to stop
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  Speaker 1: your tax dollars from going to this abuse and going
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  Speaker 1: to terrorists as well. The White House making it very
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  Speaker 1: clear that we have a real problem with immigration from
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  Speaker 1: third world countries and is it adding to the United
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: States of America or is it actually putting you and
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  Speaker 1: many other lives at risk. That is part of the
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: question that we must be asking and for far too long.
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  Speaker 1: If you ask that question, people immediately say things like
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  Speaker 1: your racist or your bigot or that's not what America
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  Speaker 1: is about. But the data is showing that we do
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  Speaker 1: have a crisis in this country, and so how do
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  Speaker 1: we deal with it? Stephen Miller talking about this from
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  Speaker 1: the White House on Fox News Channel and clearly telegraphing
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  Speaker 1: what may be coming from the White House. Listen carefully
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  Speaker 1: the words he chooses.
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  Speaker 7: So one last question, Stephen, I think you and I
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  Speaker 7: could have and should have this conversation out of much
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  Speaker 7: longer skill. This is something that is incredibly important and
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  Speaker 7: worthy of a half hour together. But such as the
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  Speaker 7: nature of television as it is right now, I'm working
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  Speaker 7: on that, but this will be quickly my last question
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  Speaker 7: for you.
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  Speaker 8: What can we do? Stephen?
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  Speaker 7: You know, this was something America addressed in the nineteen twenties.
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  Speaker 7: They had these debates, they had these conversations openly, and
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  Speaker 7: they chose in the nineteen twenties to say we are
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  Speaker 7: going to put strict quotas on people coming from different
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  Speaker 7: parts of the world. Sixty five did away with what
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  Speaker 7: we did in the twenties. So do we need something
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  Speaker 7: like the nineteen twenty four Act.
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  Speaker 9: Clearly we need to have in this country exactly what
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  Speaker 9: President Trump called for which is that we need a
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  Speaker 9: moratorium on immigration from third world countries until we can
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  Speaker 9: heal ourselves as the nation, solve our education issues, solve
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  Speaker 9: our healthcare issues, our public safety issues, our assimilation issues,
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  Speaker 9: our cultural issues. So the nineteen twenty four Act is
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  Speaker 9: such a good example because so we had large immigration
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  Speaker 9: from Europe from.
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  Speaker 8: Eighteen eighty to nineteen twenty.
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  Speaker 9: So, in other words, we went from a country that
• 12:54
  Speaker 9: had immigration from part of Europe to immigration from many
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  Speaker 9: other parts of Europe, but even other European cost entries
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  Speaker 9: post enormous stresses on the US system, both economically and
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  Speaker 9: in terms of security. There's a lot of crime, a
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  Speaker 9: lot of threast in public safety and order, and those
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  Speaker 9: who are addressed with very strict immigration quotas. What they
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  Speaker 9: don't teach you in school is that from nineteen twenty
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  Speaker 9: to nineteen seventy there was negative migration. There was a
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  Speaker 9: half century of negative migration. The foreign born population declined
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  Speaker 9: by forty percent for half a century. During that same
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  Speaker 9: time period, will the US population doubled from natural childbirth.
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  Speaker 9: That was the cauldron in which a unified shared national
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  Speaker 9: identity was formed.
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  Speaker 8: They went through.
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  Speaker 9: A depression together, they went through World Wars together, they
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  Speaker 9: landed on the Moon together. This great period in American
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  Speaker 9: history happened at a time when there was negative migration.
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  Speaker 9: They don't teach that to our kids in school, and frankly,
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  Speaker 9: I would submit very few politicians serving in Congress probably
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  Speaker 9: know that.
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  Speaker 1: Will very few politicians in Washington serving know that as well.
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  Speaker 1: Going back to talking about the nineteen twenty four Act
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  Speaker 1: is a good example. As he described it, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: done there, by the way, Stephen Miller also talking about
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  Speaker 1: Somalia specifically. Now again, if you talk about Somalia and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we need to cut back or we need to
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  Speaker 1: look at what we've done here in this country and
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  Speaker 1: how many people are letting in from Somalia, you will
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  Speaker 1: immediately be called a bigot and or a racist for
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  Speaker 1: even trying to have the conversation. I want you to
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  Speaker 1: hear what Stephen had to say about what we're finding
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  Speaker 1: out about what may be one of the biggest frauds
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  Speaker 1: we've ever seen with a number of people coming into
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  Speaker 1: this country from Somalia.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I can have as long as I'm willing to
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  Speaker 2: work for.
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  Speaker 5: That's the American drill.
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  Speaker 7: My next guest has been a driving force behind President Trump'
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  Speaker 7: immigration policies. He is White House Deputy chief of Staff
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  Speaker 7: for Policy, Steven Miller, Stephen, great to see you. You know,
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  Speaker 7: the interesting thing about hearing from a guy like Geene
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  Speaker 7: Simmons right there and what he had to say, when
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  Speaker 7: you do talk to someone who is either the child
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  Speaker 7: or the direct legal immigran the United States, they often
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  Speaker 7: share that type of love of America, wherein when we
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: look at in illegal population, you don't often hear that
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  Speaker 7: same type of patriotism.
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  Speaker 8: Well, first of all, thank you for having this conversation.
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  Speaker 5: Will.
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  Speaker 9: I think there's been an incredible lack of honest, truthful
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  Speaker 9: candidate conversation in American media for a very long time
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  Speaker 9: about immigration policy.
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  Speaker 8: And you're right, of course that immigrants who come here
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  Speaker 8: I legally.
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  Speaker 9: Engage in an act of spite against America from the
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  Speaker 9: moment they cross that border and then continue to break
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  Speaker 9: our laws and flat our system and defy our rules
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  Speaker 9: every single day they're here, and continue to plunder and
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: pillage off the system and of course their children as
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: a result of so called birthright citizenship, which is the
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: greatest scam in history. Get unlimited welfare for life that
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: goes to the benefit of legal alien parents.
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  Speaker 8: But I want to address your monologue specifically.
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  Speaker 9: About the nineteen sixty five Immigration Act and what that
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  Speaker 9: means in American history. So, during the Civil rights era,
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  Speaker 9: and this is the civils way I can put it,
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  Speaker 9: there was a thought, in effect. You can go back
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  Speaker 9: and you can read the transcripts of the debate at
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  Speaker 9: the time of applying civil rights to immigration policy for
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  Speaker 9: the globe and to create a civil right for people
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  Speaker 9: from every part of the world to.
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  Speaker 8: Come to America in ever growing numbers.
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  Speaker 9: And so a system that for years, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 9: had been tightly restricted, suddenly established this global ability of
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  Speaker 9: people in every part of the world to come to America,
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  Speaker 9: to bring their families to America, and then eventually empty
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  Speaker 9: out their entire towns and their entire villages to the
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  Speaker 9: United States of America. And so what you saw between
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  Speaker 9: nineteen sixty five and today was the single largest experiment
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  Speaker 9: on a society, on a civilization that had ever been
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  Speaker 9: conducted in human history, not just the seventy six million
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  Speaker 9: immigrants that were brought in largely from the Third World,
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  Speaker 9: but their descendants too. So you see with a lot
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  Speaker 9: of these immigrant groups. Not only is the first generation unsuccessful,
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  Speaker 9: and Somalia as a clear example here, not only is
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  Speaker 9: the first generation unsuccessful, but you see persistent issues in
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  Speaker 9: every subsequent generation. So you see consistent high rates of
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  Speaker 9: welfare use, consistent high rates of criminal activity, consistent failures
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  Speaker 9: to assimilate. But they shouldn't be a surprise. Will, It's
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  Speaker 9: just common sense. If Somaldians cannot make Somalia successful, why
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  Speaker 9: would we think that the track will be any different
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  Speaker 9: in the United States? Go third world country by third
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  Speaker 9: world country. No one's saying, Look, there are people all
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  Speaker 9: over the world that are great people, but you look
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  Speaker 9: at the society.
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  Speaker 8: If Libya keeps failing.
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  Speaker 9: If the Central African Republic keeps failing, if Somalia keeps failing. Right,
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  Speaker 9: if these societies all over the world continue to fail,
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  Speaker 9: you have to ask yourself. If you bring those societies
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  Speaker 9: into our country and then give them unlimited, free welfare,
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  Speaker 9: what do we think is gonna happen. You're going to
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  Speaker 9: replicate the conditions that they left over and over and
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  Speaker 9: over again. And we mask the impact of immigration every
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  Speaker 9: public policy issue we discuss, we talk about test scores.
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  Speaker 9: Will if you subtract immigration out of test scores, all
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  Speaker 9: of a sudden, our test scores skyrocket. If you subtract
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  Speaker 9: immigration out of healthcare, all of a sudden, we don't
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  Speaker 9: have near the size of the healthcare challenges our country faces.
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  Speaker 9: If you subtract immigration out of public safety, all of
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  Speaker 9: a sudden, we don't have violent crime in so many
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  Speaker 9: of our cities. Issue after issue, we talk about these
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  Speaker 9: things that just they just happen to us. The schools
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  Speaker 9: just suddenly fail by the crime just suddenly explodes, the
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  Speaker 9: deficit just suddenly skyrockets. These are a result of social
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  Speaker 9: policy choices that we made through immigration.
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  Speaker 1: You notice what he said, and if you listen to
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  Speaker 1: how he said it, he said, Look, we need legal
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: immigration because illegal immigration is completely underminding. People are doing
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  Speaker 1: it the right way. That is important. And number two,
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at the issue safety. That is
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  Speaker 1: a conversation that everyone in this country deserves to have
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  Speaker 1: that conversation, and why would we do something there's hurting
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  Speaker 1: Americans that are in this country, including immigrants who have
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  Speaker 1: come to this country, on a multitude of issues as
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  Speaker 1: basic as.
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  Speaker 2: Housing and jobs.
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  Speaker 1: These are the conversations that need to be had because
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  Speaker 1: All of this is coming as a former ICE official
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  Speaker 1: has now blown the whistle saying Somali immigration to the
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  Speaker 1: US marked the greatest refugee fraud crisis in modern times.
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  Speaker 1: A whistleblower coming forward explaining just how bad things are
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  Speaker 1: with Somali migration to the United States of America should
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  Speaker 1: be a front page news story. It is not. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this story and I hope
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  Speaker 1: you'll share it everywhere on social media. Share the podcast
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: wherever you can on social media so people can hear this.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: This is what is being told is it's a plague
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  Speaker 1: of mass fraud the federal government and a retired Immigration
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  Speaker 1: Customs Enforcement official is revealing now the secrets that apparently
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  Speaker 1: the government does not want you to know about the
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  Speaker 1: P three or PDAs three refugee pipeline. It was created
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  Speaker 1: by the Refugee Act of nineteen eighty.
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  Speaker 2: What did it do?
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  Speaker 1: It allowed refugees to apply for their spouses, their unmarried children,
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  Speaker 1: and parents to also receive refugee status in the US.
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  Speaker 1: From two thousand and three through two thousand and eight, Africans,
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  Speaker 1: including Somalis, represent more than ninety five percent of refugees
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  Speaker 1: who arrive in the US through the PDAs three program.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that again, Africans, including Somalis, represent
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  Speaker 1: more than ninety five percent of the refugees who arrived
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  Speaker 1: in the US through this government PEDS three program.
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  Speaker 2: That is insane.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the rest of the world, you
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  Speaker 1: should be angry if you're from anywhere else in the world.
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  Speaker 1: In March of eight, after some thirty six thousand, they
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  Speaker 1: say mostly Africans have entered the US as a PEDS
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  Speaker 1: three refugees, the majority of whom resettled in one place, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: So now this explains a Somali fraud that is happening
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  Speaker 1: in Minnesota. The people coming in this country from Somalia,
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  Speaker 1: mostly Africans, are going directly to Minnesota where they have
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  Speaker 1: set up a nation state in essence that is now
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: fleecing American tax dours of billions of dollars in fraud
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  Speaker 1: which has all been uncovered now. The program was halted
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  Speaker 1: by then President George W. Bush after the State Department
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  Speaker 1: unveiled back in eight mass fraud. The State Department published
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  Speaker 1: a report in November of eight detailing how the agency
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  Speaker 1: had started requiring the PDS three refugees from Somalia, Ethiopia,
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  Speaker 1: and Liberia to take DNA tests to prove they were
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: bred relatives of the US bound refugees sponsoring them for
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  Speaker 1: such status.
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  Speaker 2: So guess what happened? And again, how the hell did
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  Speaker 2: we not know this?
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  Speaker 1: The DNA tests revealed the State Department was only able
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  Speaker 1: to confirm all claimed biological relationships in fewer than twenty
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  Speaker 1: percent of the cases aka the family units. So more
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  Speaker 1: than eighty percent of the people coming into the US
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  Speaker 1: from Somalia, Ethiopia, and Liberia were lying about even being
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the family members. Their ticket to America was being sold
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: on the black market by the families many times that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: were in this country already taking advantage of US through
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: government aid.
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  Speaker 2: Quote.
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  Speaker 1: We initially tested a sample of some five hundred refugees,
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  Speaker 1: primarily Somali and Ethiopian, in Nairobi, Kenya, under consideration for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: US resettlement through the pedestree program. After these samples suggested
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: high rates of fraud, we expanded testing to Ethiopia, Uganda, Ghana, Guinea,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Gembia and others. Most of the approximately three thousand refugees
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  Speaker 1: tested are from Somalia, Ethiopia, and Liberia. Note that the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: initial DNA testing was limited to members of the families
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: only applying for the pedestri program, and not between the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: applicants and the anchor relative. In the United States, the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: retired ICE official Fillinger published a thirty page brief in
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: July of eighteen regarding what he called the greatest refugee
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: fraud crisis in modern times and possibly the biggest blunder
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in immigration history anywhere. Thousands and thousands and thousands and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: thousands of fraudulent P three refugees, most using false identities,
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  Speaker 1: streamed into the United States of America.
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  Speaker 2: So these are people just fake names. We don't even
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  Speaker 2: know who the they are.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: We don't know what they're wanted for in these countries
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  Speaker 1: that they committed hanes crimes, and we're allowing them in
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  Speaker 1: with fake IDs. Not only did we allow them in,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: but they streamed in the US for years before the
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  Speaker 1: suspension of the program. Quote, when twenty five percent of
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  Speaker 1: the US workforce was unemployed in the nineteen thirties, it
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: was called the Great Depression. With nearly one hundred percent
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: fraud levels in the failed P three program, it is
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: accurate to call it the greatest refugee fraud crisis. In
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  Speaker 1: modern times. Now here's the part that will even blow
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: your mind more than that. We knew the program was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: corrupt as hell. We knew people were lying about who
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: they were. We knew they were coming to America and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: at record rates they were taking government aid. And then
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: we find out that former President Barack Obama reinstated the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: P three refugee pipeline in twenty twelve after making a
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: number of reforms, including requiring DNA testing for applicants to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: prove family ties to the refugees in the United States
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  Speaker 1: of America. Just let that sit in. You look at that,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and you look at these numbers, and what we are
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: now witnessing is two things. One, the amount of corruption
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: is just massive. Two, like you're selling family members on
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the black market. Three we haven't even fixed the people
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that are in this country that we could go back
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and easily deport and get rid of who defrauded this country.
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  Speaker 1: Four we know that the amount of fraud is historic levels,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: costing US billions of dollars. And five we know that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the majority of people coming in are going straight to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: wear Minnesota to literally set up their own country. They're
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: not assimilating into the United States of America. They're saying, Hey,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: we're just going to raise our numbers by thirty six thousand, right,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and we'll just like do that and it's going to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: be fine, and then we're just going to elect our
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: own to Congress, which is exactly what we've seen with
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Elamo mar and others. Just take a look at Rashid
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to Leave, for example, and look at what she's done
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: in this set of Michion where there's another large population
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of immigrants have come in. She is protecting them. You
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: want to know what she's doing. She's not representing America
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: in any capacity. I want to make that clear. She
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: literally introduced a resolution recognizing what she described as the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: genocide of the Palestinian people in Goss. It not the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: attack on the Jews, not the worst attack on the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Jews since the Holocaust.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, she's.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Out there standing up for the terrorist organizations Hamas and hesblah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: This is just another example of what was being said
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: there by Stephen Miller talking about if and again, this
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: is something that may be politically incorrect, Okay to say
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: it right, people are going to lose their minds, but
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it's a conversation we should have.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Again, stee Miller.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: If some Audians can't make some allys successful, why we
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: think that the track would be any different in the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: United States of America. There are people that are going
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to go berserk at that comment. I think it's a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: comment that should have a grand debate around it. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: think we should be having a conversation after what we
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: just witnessed with billions of dollars of fraud that is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: happening before our very eyes in Minnesota, about this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I also want to make sure that when people are
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: coming in to the United States of America, they want
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to be a part of this country. They're not coming
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: in just to take advantage of this country. They want
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to assimilate into this country, not set up their own
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: country that they just in essence came from. That's another
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: part of the equation, another part of the conversation that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I believe should be had. And I'll say one last
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: thing about this, If we don't have the conversation that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: clearly needs to take place, when Democrat get back into power,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: they are going to flood this country yet again. They
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: are going to flood this country as fast as they
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: can with illegal immigrants that are coming in because they
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: want to fundamentally undermine and change this nation. We know
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that they've told us that's their plan. Believe them when
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: they tell you this. Don't forget to share this podcast,
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