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Forcing Dems to Choose Israel or Hamas, plus Protecting IVF with a Federal Law & Media Panicking over Trump's Trial · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Center. Nice to be with you.
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Speaker 2: As always, Joe Biden thought it was a good idea
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Speaker 2: this week to head to a college campus, give one
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Speaker 2: of those grand commencement speeches and throw Israel under the
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Speaker 2: bus in the process, all the gain votes of young people.
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Speaker 3: Well, it really is sad.
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Speaker 4: Every day every week we see the Democrats getting worse
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Speaker 4: and worse. They are abandoning Israel and the droves, and
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Speaker 4: they are embracing Hamas. And they're doing it because they
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Speaker 4: think they get political advantage. They're doing it because that's
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Speaker 4: where their radical base is. We're going to talk about that,
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Speaker 4: but we're also going to talk about legislation that I
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Speaker 4: filed this week to force every Democrat in the Senate
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Speaker 4: to vote and to choose between Israel and Hamas. Where
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Speaker 4: do you stand. We're going to force them and get
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Speaker 4: them on record. We're also going to talk about major
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Speaker 4: legislation that I'm filing today actually in the US Senate
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Speaker 4: concerning IVF in vitro fertilization protecting IVF. IVF is an
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Speaker 4: incredibly powerful technology that has enabled millions of parents to
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Speaker 4: have children, and right now the Democrats are engaged in
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Speaker 4: a lot of political deception and attacks suggesting IVF is
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Speaker 4: in jeopardy. I'm filing legislation today to ensure that IVF
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Speaker 1: Let's really get into this week.
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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say that Joe Biden proved
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Speaker 2: the American people there is nothing he's not willing to
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Speaker 2: do to undermine Israel if it means getting the thirty
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Speaker 2: thirty five and under vote that is upset with him,
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Speaker 2: over standing with Israel early on, to stick with him
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Speaker 2: through election day, and it got a lot worse this week.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's right, the Democrats more and more captive of
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Speaker 4: the pro Hamas wing of their Democrat party. And pause
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Speaker 4: for a second and reflect on how utterly insane it
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Speaker 4: is that there is such a thing as a Prohamas
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Speaker 4: wing of a major political party in America. But that's
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Speaker 4: the simple reality. And young people in particular, Look, this
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Speaker 4: is the consequence of our universities being twisted and taken
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Speaker 4: over by the radical left, taken over by the cultural
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Speaker 4: Marxist who are poisoning our young people. It's what I
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Speaker 4: wrote about in my latest book book, Unwoke, how to
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Speaker 4: Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. But these young people are
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Speaker 4: being taught that Palestinians are victims and the Jews are oppressors,
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Speaker 4: and that the answer is violence and revolution against the
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Speaker 4: so called oppressors and its absolute vicious lies. But unfortunately
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Speaker 4: in the Democrat Party it seems there are no adults.
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Speaker 4: There is no one who will actually stand up and
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Speaker 4: point out there's not a moral equivalency between Hamas terrorists
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Speaker 4: murdering civilians and raping children, and the IDF attacking and
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Speaker 4: killing terrorists to protect civilians. Those are not the same.
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Speaker 4: One is evil and one is good. There is no
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Speaker 4: Democrat Joe Biden's not capable of that clarity, and so
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Speaker 4: instead he went this past week to Morehouse College and
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Speaker 4: take a listen to what he had to say.
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Speaker 5: Innocent Palestinians caught in the middle of all this, men,
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Speaker 5: women and children killed, are displaced in despit, in desperate
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Speaker 5: need of water, food, and medicine. It's a humanitarian.
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Speaker 1: Crisis in God.
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Speaker 5: That's why I've called for an immediacyaswire, an immediacy. Squire
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Speaker 5: stopped the fighting.
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Speaker 2: To be clear, he's saying, Israel stopped defending yourself, Stop
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Speaker 2: killing the terrorists that came after you. You know where many
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Speaker 2: of them are, You're continuing to try to find them.
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Speaker 2: And kill them because you understand that they're going to
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Speaker 2: keep coming after you if you don't kill them. They've
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Speaker 2: declared war on you. And he's saying, hey, cease fire.
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Speaker 2: And it's really a talk to Israel, not so much
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Speaker 2: to Moss.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's actually a talk to American radicals. It's a
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Speaker 4: talk to young people. And listen, Joe Biden. You listen
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Speaker 4: to what he just said there. You know, if someone
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Speaker 4: didn't know anything, they'd be like, gosh, why did Israel
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Speaker 4: attack those poor, helpless people. Well, there was this thing
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Speaker 4: called October seventh that somehow doesn't seem to be very
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Speaker 4: relevant to Joe Biden, to the Democrats calculus where Hamas
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Speaker 4: terrorists deliberately carried out the greatest mass murder of Jews
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Speaker 4: in a single day since the Holocaust. They deliberately targeted civilians,
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Speaker 4: They targeted children, that they mutilated, corpses. It was horrific.
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Speaker 4: Those Hamas terrorists are monsters. And Israel responded quite naturally,
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Speaker 4: quite rightly, by saying it was going to utterly eradicate Hamas. Understand,
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Speaker 4: Israel is not attacking civilians. Israel is attacking Hamas terrorists.
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Speaker 4: Now there are civilian casualties. Those civilian casualties happen because
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Speaker 4: Hamas wants them to happen, because they use human shields.
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Speaker 4: They use Palestinian civilians, they hide the terrorists. They put
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Speaker 4: their headquarters in Gaza, in the basement of a hospital
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Speaker 4: to use Palestinian mothers and babies as human shields. They
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Speaker 4: put missiles in the basements of elementary schools to use
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Speaker 4: Palestinian children as human shields. And it is Hamas that
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Speaker 4: wants Palestinian civilian casualties. Why Because useful idiots like Joejoe
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Speaker 4: Biden and the rest of the Democrat Party and the
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Speaker 4: rest of the liars in the corporate media will then
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Speaker 4: say what Joe Biden just said, which is Israel is
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Speaker 4: the bad guy.
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Speaker 2: And Hamas lies a lot. And I think that's part
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Speaker 2: of what people really need to understand. Hamas slied about
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Speaker 2: the attack on the hospital, for example, early on, and
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Speaker 2: they said that Israel bomb the hospital. We found out
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Speaker 2: it was a rocket that Hamas shot and a rocket
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Speaker 2: that basically misfired, landed in the parking lot, blew up
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Speaker 2: in that parking lot thing goods.
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Speaker 1: It didn't actually hit the hospital itself.
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Speaker 4: It was reported there were five hundred casualties in the hospital.
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Speaker 4: It turns out there were zero. I understand zero and
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Speaker 4: five hundred are often confused. It was reported that Israel
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Speaker 4: fired the rocket. That's kind of sort of right, except
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Speaker 4: it was actually Palestinian Islamic Jahad and actually it was
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Speaker 4: fired from inside guys. And understand, look, Hamas and Palastinian
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Speaker 4: Islamic Jahad they don't have technology. So Israel uses smart bombs,
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Speaker 4: bombs that are targeted, so that when they're aiming at
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Speaker 4: a terrorist, they hit the terrorist. Hamas does not. Hamas
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Speaker 4: fires thousands and thousands of rockets that have no guidance.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they say, away is Israel a.
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Speaker 4: Tube with some propellant and some explosive and often shrapnel
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Speaker 4: to kill civilians, and they'll fire it up in a
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Speaker 4: general direction. But a substantial percentage of the rockets Hamas
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Speaker 4: fires end up hitting Gaza because they don't know where
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Speaker 4: it's going. They're just throwing them in the air. And
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Speaker 4: by the way, they're also not aiming at military targets.
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Speaker 4: It's not like they're aiming in Israel and saying those
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Speaker 4: are soldiers, let's shoot at them. They just fire him
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Speaker 4: in the direction of Israel. And their view is if
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Speaker 4: I'm killing.
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Speaker 1: Jews, it's good, it's a good rock.
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Speaker 3: Hamas is happy if we are murdering Jews.
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Speaker 2: Well, and Hamas lies about their numbers. Yes, John Kirby
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Speaker 2: at the White House this week, he gave numbers. He
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Speaker 2: was asked about numbers, numbers that have multiple times been
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Speaker 2: proven to be lies from Hamas about their casualties, civilian casualties,
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Speaker 2: specifically trying to turn the world against Israel. And yet
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Speaker 2: he's taking these numbers as if they are truth. Take
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Speaker 2: a look at him at the White House.
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Speaker 6: I've a question about the death toll of Gaza.
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Speaker 1: Does President Biden.
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Speaker 7: Have confidence in the casualty numbers coming out Gaza. The
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Speaker 7: President watches this very very closely, and you've heard him
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Speaker 7: talk about the more than thirty thousand people that have
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Speaker 7: been killed, and he said the majority of women and children.
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Speaker 7: He's also said that's unacceptable. And as we've maintained time
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Speaker 7: and time again, the right number of civilian casualties out
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Speaker 7: to be zero. But in terms of you know what
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Speaker 7: specific number we're quoting or citing on any given day,
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Speaker 7: I mean, we're doing the best we can working with
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Speaker 7: the Israelis to ascertain the scope of the civilian suffering,
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Speaker 7: but it's obviously immense.
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Speaker 6: Is his confidence in the numbers come out of Gaza
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Speaker 6: increased since late October when he said he had no
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Speaker 6: confidence in the numbers.
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Speaker 7: You've heard the President talk about the numbers and talk
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Speaker 7: about the concern and the most important thing, aside from
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Speaker 7: obviously how tragic that is, is what we're doing to
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Speaker 7: alleviate and help improve conditions in Gaza, including through this
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Speaker 7: temporary here today.
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Speaker 2: This is how much they're pandering. It was, the numbers
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Speaker 2: are terrible. We don't trust them us, they're lying to us.
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Speaker 2: But now, well, well we need these numbers to be somewhat
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Speaker 2: high so we can justify demanding a seasfire from Israel.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's interesting as you listen to John Kirby,
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Speaker 4: have you noticed that Kareem John Pierre has been utterly sidelined. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: that she's a terrible liar. And I'll give Kirby credit.
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Speaker 4: He's a much better liar than she is. He's much
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Speaker 4: more skilled at it. He sounds more reasonable as he's
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Speaker 4: sitting there repeating Hamas's propaganda, and he says, well, you've
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Speaker 4: heard Joe Biden do it many times. Yes, that's the problem.
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden amplifies hamas propaganda, and that is part of
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Speaker 4: the strategy. That's something we've talked about on this podcast
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Speaker 4: a lot. Hamas's strategy. They are not strong enough alone
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Speaker 4: to defeat Israel. Their strategy is to put out lies
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Speaker 4: and also to use human shields to have Palestinian civilian
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Speaker 4: casualties that Hamas wants. In fact, when Palestinian civilians try
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Speaker 4: to flee harms way, Hamas will stop them and say no,
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Speaker 4: we need you there to die. And the reason they
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Speaker 4: do it is they know the useful idiots will repeat it. Look, listen,
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Speaker 4: listen to Joe Biden and back again at his commencement address.
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Speaker 5: What rights of the policy and people have. I'm working
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Speaker 5: to make sure we finally get a two state solution.
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Speaker 1: The only solution, the only solution center.
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Speaker 2: So the only solution is if the terrorists are involved,
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Speaker 2: they got to have their own state. And we got
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Speaker 2: to keep saying this no matter what Hamas does, no
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Speaker 2: matter how horrific the next attack is, they have to
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Speaker 2: have his two state solution.
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Speaker 1: And that's and he said it out loud.
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Speaker 2: He said, what we've been implying here for quite some
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Speaker 2: time that this is the president of United States of
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Speaker 2: America undermining Israel every chance he gets.
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Speaker 4: And that has happened literally from day one when Joe
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Speaker 4: Biden was sworn in. Understand Joe Biden has spent his
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Speaker 4: entire career in public life, over fifty years, consistently undermining Israel.
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Speaker 4: This has been constant. Now the media repeats, O Biden's
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Speaker 4: a friend of Israel. Look, you and I talked about
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Speaker 4: in this pod before, how in nineteen eighty two, when
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Speaker 4: I was eleven years old and you were an infant,
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden was threatening to cut off weapons to Israel
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Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty two in the Senate. He has been
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Speaker 4: doing this a long long time. When he came into
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Speaker 4: the White House, they systematically attacked Israel. They also funneled
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Speaker 4: over one hundred billion dollars to Iran. They funded Iran,
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Speaker 4: They funded Hamas. Now they funded Hamas both through Iran
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Speaker 4: because ninety percent of Hamas's funding comes from Iran. They
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Speaker 4: funded Hesbela through Iran because ninety percent of Hesbela's funding
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Speaker 4: comes from Iran. But they also sent hundreds of millions
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Speaker 4: of dollars to Gaza, which they knew would go directly
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Speaker 4: to Hamas and be used for terror killings. Joe Biden,
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Speaker 4: which he somehow didn't tell this to the college kids
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Speaker 4: in the commencement address, in a very real sense, funded
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Speaker 4: the death squads that murdered Jews. And you know what,
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Speaker 4: some of those radicals if he told them I paid
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Speaker 4: for the October seventh death squads, some of those campus
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Speaker 4: radicals would cheer for that, because if you look at
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Speaker 4: what they're cheering on their takeover on campuses, they are
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Speaker 4: cheering the mass murder they are promising from the river
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Speaker 4: of the sea more October seventh, October seventh, every day.
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Speaker 4: Now here's some good news, which is we're going to
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Speaker 4: force Senate Democrats to go on record. So this past week,
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Speaker 4: the House of Representatives passed legislation to force Joe Biden
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Speaker 4: to provide the weapons to Israel that it needs to
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Speaker 4: defend itself. Now, I remember Joe Biden lied to the
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Speaker 4: American people and lied to Congress when we were having
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Speaker 4: the big fight over the supplemental a couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 4: He said, we got to do this to get weapons
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Speaker 4: to Israel as soon as Congress passes it.
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Speaker 3: What did he do?
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Speaker 4: He said, oh, we're not going to give weapons to Israel.
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Speaker 4: Psych I mean, he's like Charlie Brown with Lucy in
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Speaker 4: the football. That's exactly what he's done. So he is
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Speaker 4: blocking the weapons to Israel. And by the way, listen
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Speaker 4: to John Kirby, he's still blocking him. Give John Kirby a.
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Speaker 7: Listen son a withholding. There was a pause put in
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Speaker 7: place on a shipment of the two thousand pounds bombs
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Speaker 7: and that pause is still in place.
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Speaker 3: So it's still in place.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, do you know what they're freezing
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Speaker 4: the precision guided munitions what actually lets them hit the
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Speaker 4: terrorists and not civilians. So understand, because the Biden White
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Speaker 4: House is so unhappy about civilian deaths, they want to
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Speaker 4: take away the precision guided munitions that allow Israel to
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Speaker 4: avoid hitting civilians that only hit terrorists.
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Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 4: These are a bunch of Israel hating left wing radicals
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Speaker 4: that are setting government policy. The House passed legislation this
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Speaker 4: past week that would force the Biden administration to provide
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Speaker 4: the weapons that Congress has already appropriated and directed to
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Speaker 4: be given. Now in the House, virtually every single House
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Speaker 4: Democrat voted. Now, it was very close to a party
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Speaker 4: line vote. Come over to the Senate.
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Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen in the Senate.
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming Schumer is going to say, we don't like
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Speaker 1: any of this.
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Speaker 4: Schumer has already said he will not allow a vote.
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Speaker 4: So understand Chuck Schumer. If Joe Biden is the greatest
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Speaker 4: friend Hamas and Hesbela has ever had, Chuck Schumer is
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Speaker 4: the second greatest friend Hamas and Hesbel has ever had.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, and historically, Schumer's always said, oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm an Israel guy.
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Speaker 4: He's defined himself as the defender of Israel. Yeah, and
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Speaker 4: he is right now defending Hamas and supporting Joe Biden
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Speaker 4: and cutting off weapons to Israel. Like Chuck Schumer, the
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Speaker 4: language and words he said for thirty years are all
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Speaker 4: being turned on their head because Schumer, just like Biden,
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Speaker 4: just like the rest of the Democrats, is terrified of
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Speaker 4: the radical left that is their base. Now Schumer is
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Speaker 4: majority of leader controls whether we have votes. He said,
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Speaker 4: I will not allow a vote on what the House
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Speaker 4: has passed to force the weapons to be delivered to Israel.
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Speaker 3: Here's the good news.
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Speaker 4: Last week I filed two different pieces of legislation one
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Speaker 4: legislation in the Senate to force the Biden administration to
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Speaker 4: provide those weapons to Israel.
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Speaker 3: It's called the Armact.
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Speaker 4: Now, Schumer's not going to allow a vote on that either,
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Speaker 4: he doesn't want to vote on that. But secondly, I
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Speaker 4: filed what is called Warpwers resolution focusing on the Biden
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Speaker 4: administration that has built this floating peer in Gaza. Several
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Speaker 4: hundred million dollars. It sent the military in to build
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Speaker 4: the floating peer. The purpose of the peer is to
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Speaker 4: be able to fund quote aid to Gaza to Hamas.
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Speaker 4: They basically have built this so that they can get
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Speaker 4: supplies to Hamas because Joe Biden is very focused on
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Speaker 4: resupplying Hamas while while he's boycotting Israel. Now, why does
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Speaker 4: it matter that it's a war powers resolution, Because because
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Speaker 4: the legislation, the War Powers Act, has a provision that
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Speaker 4: makes a war powers resolution privileged. Now that sounds like
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Speaker 4: a lot of Senate gobbledegook, but it's important. What it
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Speaker 4: means is I can force a vote and Schumer can't
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Speaker 4: stop it. That the Majority leader has no ability to
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Speaker 4: stop a vote once you fire file a war powers resolution,
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Speaker 4: Because what it's focusing on is cutting off US military
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Speaker 4: action without congressional authorization. And in this case, the military
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Speaker 4: is who Biden used to build theer. And by the way,
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Speaker 4: Biden is saying to Israel right now, hey, the Israeli
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Speaker 4: military's got to protect this peer that we built. You've
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Speaker 4: got a risk is Raeli soldiers to protect the peer
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Speaker 4: that is there to resupply Hamas, and we're going to
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Speaker 4: have US soldiers also at harm's way. So the War
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Speaker 4: Powers resolution within two weeks, we will have a vote
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Speaker 4: on the Senate floor, and Schumer has no means of
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Speaker 4: stopping it. By the way, it's also a voter to
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Speaker 4: threshold of fifty and not sixty, which means if two
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Speaker 4: Democrats actually decided they supported Israel, we could prevail and
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Speaker 4: pass my resolution on the floor of the Senate.
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Speaker 2: So a guy like John Fetterman, for example, who's been
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Speaker 2: very outspoken on Israel, is somebody that you could say, hey, you.
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Speaker 4: Never know, look I'm gonna try. I don't know how
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Speaker 4: he'll vote, but this is a vote. The Biden administration's
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Speaker 4: policy is they've decided they support Hamas and not Israel.
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Speaker 4: That is exactly backwards what any rational policy would be
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Speaker 4: this v I'm going to force is going to let
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Speaker 4: every Senate Democrat decide which side are you on? Do
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Speaker 4: you want to support Hamas or do you want to
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Speaker 4: support Israel. Now, my prediction is we'll lose on a
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Speaker 4: party line vote or close to party line vote. That
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Speaker 4: I think the Democrats are quite happy today being the
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Speaker 4: party that supports Hamas. That they agree with what Joe
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Speaker 4: Biden told those college kids.
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Speaker 2: And that's because their data says, if you want to
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Speaker 2: get reelected, you need younger voters, and they're afraid they're
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Speaker 2: going to stay home, but they don't go anti Israel.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Look, part of it is political.
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Speaker 4: Part of it is as we've talked about a lot
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Speaker 4: of times, Trump broke the Democrat Party. Their minds have
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Speaker 4: hard hard left. And the cultural Marxist worldview divides the
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18:51
Speaker 4: are oppressors. And importantly, ben I did not say israelis Yeah,
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Speaker 4: great point. If you look at what the radicals on
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19:03
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Speaker 4: that's evil, it is grotesque, but that is what they
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19:46
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Speaker 4: Israeli flag were not themselves Israeli, but it didn't matter
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Speaker 4: to her. If they were Jews, they should be murdered.
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Speaker 4: And she was by all appearances not Middle Eastern, she
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Speaker 4: was Palestinian. She's just a blonde, white liberal who's been
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Speaker 4: told Jews are oppressors, so they should be killed. It
20:08
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20:14
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20:18
Speaker 4: the ones who created the sickness, who inculcated the students,
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Speaker 2: You know, Boebe, you understand Israel right now? How concerned
22:08
Speaker 2: are they about not getting these munitions and being paused?
22:10
Speaker 1: And how long could this pause last?
22:12
Speaker 4: Look, I think Israel will fight and will continue to
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Speaker 4: fight to defeat Hamas regardless of what Biden does. Israel
22:18
Speaker 4: is a strong nation with a strong industrial base, and
22:21
Speaker 4: they'll continue fighting.
22:23
Speaker 3: This is about.
22:24
Speaker 4: Domestic politics for the Democrats. This is about Michigan. This
22:27
Speaker 4: is about Nevada, This is about dearborn Michigan. This is
22:30
Speaker 4: about young people. There's a reason Biden went to a
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Speaker 4: college campus to give this speech because he's trying to
22:38
Speaker 4: speak to the radicals, the people that are waving HEZBLA
22:42
Speaker 4: flags sadly at BioMA Mater Princeton. That's whose votes Biden wants,
22:47
Speaker 4: that's whose votes the Democrats want, and nobody speaks with
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Speaker 4: any clarity. He didn't stand up and say, let me
22:53
Speaker 4: tell you right now, if you threaten the safety of
22:55
Speaker 4: another student, if you threaten to harm someone because he
22:59
Speaker 4: or she is Jewish, you will be arrested, You will
23:02
Speaker 4: be prosecuted, you should be expelled, and if you're a
23:05
Speaker 4: foreign student, you will be deported. That's actually what a
23:08
Speaker 4: real president would do. He didn't do what Dwight D.
23:10
Speaker 4: Eisenhower did when bigoted Democrats, and by the way, it
23:15
Speaker 4: was Democrats then too, would not let African Americans be
23:19
Speaker 4: integrated into school.
23:20
Speaker 3: Dwight D.
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Speaker 4: Eisenhower set in the National Guard. Joe Biden hadn't sent
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Speaker 4: in the National Guard. Joe Biden hadn't sent in the
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Speaker 4: Civil Rights to Department to protect the rights of Jewish students.
23:29
Speaker 4: He hasn't sent in the FBI to investigate the foreign
23:33
Speaker 4: funding we've talked about in recent podcasts. The Chinese communists
23:36
Speaker 4: funding behind this, the Cuban communists funding behind this. Also,
23:40
Speaker 4: how much is this tied up with international terrorist networks?
23:45
Speaker 4: He's not investigating any of this. Instead, when given a choice,
23:49
Speaker 4: Joe Biden, the Democrats choose Hamas over Israel.
23:52
Speaker 3: It's tragic.
23:54
Speaker 2: I want to move out on to something else that
23:56
Speaker 2: also is really important. There's been a lot of conversation
23:59
Speaker 2: around I protecting IVF. My three kids are from in Vitro.
24:04
Speaker 2: Without it, I don't think we would have the family
24:06
Speaker 2: we have now. It allowed us to have a family,
24:09
Speaker 2: and it is such an important issue. You understand that
24:13
Speaker 2: and are moving forward with some really I say, cool
24:17
Speaker 2: legislation bipartisan to protect IVF, and that's going to be
24:22
Speaker 2: coming up. Tell us about that and how this came about.
24:24
Speaker 3: Well, look the broader context.
24:26
Speaker 4: This really started to become a political issue when the
24:28
Speaker 4: Alabama Supreme Court issued decision a couple months ago, and
24:32
Speaker 4: that case concerned a couple who had used IVF and
24:36
Speaker 4: had frozen embryos and the clinic negligently allowed those embryos
24:41
Speaker 4: to be destroyed. So they were supposed to preserve those embryos,
24:43
Speaker 4: and the clinic screwed up, and so the couple was
24:46
Speaker 4: in a lawsuit and the Alabama Supreme Court concluded that
24:50
Speaker 4: the embryos should be protected. And what happened was, look,
24:54
Speaker 4: that was a decision protecting the rights of parents to
24:57
Speaker 4: have IVF, but the media to go nuts and to say, oh, well,
25:02
Speaker 4: this is the Alabama Supreme Court saying you can't do IVF,
25:06
Speaker 4: and then the Democrats leapt on it and it became
25:08
Speaker 4: a major national issue that this is all about. Republicans
25:13
Speaker 4: want to ban IVF, which is a flat out and
25:15
Speaker 4: total lie. And my view, I strongly and unequivocally support IVF.
25:20
Speaker 4: I think IVF is an incredible technology. You know Bennett's
25:23
Speaker 4: amazing two percent of all live bursts in America.
25:27
Speaker 3: Are through IVF.
25:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, millions of babies have been brought into the world,
25:32
Speaker 4: have seen life, millions of parents have become moms and
25:35
Speaker 4: dads because of IVF. It is an amazing technology and
25:39
Speaker 4: I strongly supported And the Democrats made a very cynical
25:44
Speaker 4: political decision, which is listen for today. For Democrats, abortion
25:49
Speaker 4: is front and center after hating Israel, It may be
25:52
Speaker 4: their most important issue. But Democrats also realize their position
25:57
Speaker 4: on abortion is wildly unpopular. Crats support unlimited abortion with
26:02
Speaker 4: zero restrictions, partial birth abortion right up until the moment
26:06
Speaker 4: of delivery. That is so radical and extreme. Only nine
26:09
Speaker 4: percent of Americans agree with that. Ninety one percent of
26:12
Speaker 4: Americans say that's too much. So Democrats can't defend their
26:17
Speaker 4: actual position, by the way, that is the position of
26:20
Speaker 4: every single Democrat in the Senate, because they voted in
26:22
Speaker 4: favor of legislation striking down every single restriction on abortion
26:27
Speaker 4: right up until the moment of birth. So what they
26:29
Speaker 4: do instead is they want to talk about IVF and
26:31
Speaker 4: they want to say, ooh, the big bad Republicans.
26:34
Speaker 3: Want to take away IVF.
26:36
Speaker 4: And so they engage deliberately in deception, and then the
26:40
Speaker 4: corporate media is eagerly complicit in doing so because they
26:46
Speaker 4: share the same radical views on abortion that they don't
26:49
Speaker 4: want to talk about the radical views, so they want
26:51
Speaker 4: to talk instead about IVF. Well, today I've introduced legislation
26:54
Speaker 4: in the Senate called the IVF Protection Act. I teamed
26:57
Speaker 4: up with Katie Britt, Senator from Alabama, she's a good friend.
27:01
Speaker 4: The two of us have drafted it. It's very simple legislation.
27:04
Speaker 4: It's straightforward, and it says that no state or local
27:08
Speaker 4: government can ban IVF that IVF is fully protected at
27:12
Speaker 4: the federal level, that it will be a decision of
27:15
Speaker 4: parents if you want to have children using IVF, that
27:18
Speaker 4: will be a federally protected right. This bill should be easily.
27:24
Speaker 3: A bipartisan bill.
27:26
Speaker 4: This bill, if enacted and written into law, would put
27:30
Speaker 4: into law the protections that protect Look, look, your kids
27:36
Speaker 4: came through IVF.
27:37
Speaker 3: What did that mean mean to you? What did that
27:40
Speaker 3: mean for your family?
27:41
Speaker 1: I mean it got to be a father and my
27:43
Speaker 1: wife got to be a mother.
27:44
Speaker 2: And we tried for four years to have kids, and
27:46
Speaker 2: you keep going to doctors, and you keep going to
27:48
Speaker 2: these visits, and then finally they're like, look, we think
27:50
Speaker 2: probably your only option is going to be IVF.
27:52
Speaker 1: Let's hope this works.
27:53
Speaker 2: And we went through it and we prayed, and you
27:56
Speaker 2: saved money because it wasn't covered by insurance. It's very
27:58
Speaker 2: expensive and it was one of those It was probably
28:01
Speaker 2: the hardest time I think in our life, in our
28:03
Speaker 2: marriage because you know, my wife want to be a mom.
28:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and when you.
28:08
Speaker 4: Go that's a huge part of both of your lives
28:10
Speaker 4: and and everything your legacy as much as you do
28:17
Speaker 4: in life nothing will be important than the children you
28:20
Speaker 4: raise and the legacy that goes forward.
28:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to protect it. I'm thankful that
28:24
Speaker 2: you're doing this. I'm thankful that you're teaming up. I
28:26
Speaker 2: hope that Democrats will say this is a non political
28:29
Speaker 2: issue and we should push for this because everybody needs
28:33
Speaker 2: to be able to have this and that wright and
28:34
Speaker 2: be protected.
28:35
Speaker 1: Have you heard from Democrats? Are they going to get
28:38
Speaker 1: on board? Because this doesn't seem political to me.
28:40
Speaker 2: I know so many people that have voted for Joe
28:42
Speaker 2: Biden that have done IVF, voted for Bernie Sanders that
28:45
Speaker 2: did IVF.
28:46
Speaker 1: It's not political. It's one to have a family.
28:48
Speaker 4: So we filed the legislation today. Today, Katie Britt and
28:51
Speaker 4: I have an op ed in the Wall Street Journal,
28:53
Speaker 4: So you should go and read the op ed we
28:54
Speaker 4: wrote in the Wall Street Journal. It's in today's journal today.
28:59
Speaker 4: I'm I'm in New York on Monday. I'm going to
29:01
Speaker 4: be in New York City with Katie. We're going to
29:03
Speaker 4: do a number of media interviews starting early in the
29:05
Speaker 4: morning talking about this legislation. I think it is really
29:08
Speaker 4: important legislation. This should be legislation that passes the Senate
29:13
Speaker 4: one hundred and nothing. Every senator agrees with the substate policy.
29:19
Speaker 4: Katie and I are going to try to pass it,
29:20
Speaker 4: and we're going to go to the Senate floor and
29:22
Speaker 4: seek to pass it. And what I do not know
29:25
Speaker 4: is if the Democrats will block it. And if they
29:27
Speaker 4: block it, it would be, even for today's Democrat party,
29:32
Speaker 4: an incredibly cynical move, because what it would be is
29:36
Speaker 4: the Democrats saying, you know what, we want to have
29:39
Speaker 4: the issue. We want to accuse Republicans of trying to
29:42
Speaker 4: ban IVF, and so we're going to prevent you from
29:46
Speaker 4: protecting IVF so we can say you want to ban it,
29:48
Speaker 4: so then we can falsely claim you want to ban it.
29:51
Speaker 4: That would be the only conceivable reason the Democrats could
29:54
Speaker 4: object is if they do not want to protect IVF. Now,
29:58
Speaker 4: the Democrats have their own bill that claim is about IVF,
30:01
Speaker 4: but it actually is an abortion bill focused on their
30:04
Speaker 4: broader abortion agenda, and they know that this is a
30:06
Speaker 4: very narrow bill that puts in clear, ironclad protections for IVF.
30:13
Speaker 4: As I said, every senator, Republican and Democrat agrees with
30:16
Speaker 4: that policy. So the only question is will the Democrats
30:21
Speaker 4: play politics so much that they will oppose a policy
30:24
Speaker 4: that they agree with because they don't want to give
30:26
Speaker 4: up on the issue. I don't know. I hope not,
30:29
Speaker 4: but we'll see. We'll see what the Democrat reaction to
30:32
Speaker 4: it is.
30:32
Speaker 2: Is this one of those moments where vertical listeners, people
30:36
Speaker 2: that share this show on social media should definitely reach
30:38
Speaker 2: out to their senators and say, hey, this is a nonpartisan,
30:41
Speaker 2: non political issue we're asking to support it, and call
30:45
Speaker 2: with that spirit in mind to their senator no matter
30:47
Speaker 2: where they live.
30:48
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, Look, this is something IVF has support. Nearly
30:52
Speaker 4: ninety percent of American support IVF. IVF is profoundly profamily
30:57
Speaker 4: is it is a miracle. Look for most of human
30:59
Speaker 4: hell history, if parents are not able to conceive that
31:03
Speaker 4: they're just left childless and in sorrow, and it is
31:07
Speaker 4: through the miracles of science that that that that parents
31:10
Speaker 4: who struggle with infertility are able to be moms and
31:16
Speaker 4: dads and raise raise babies and children. That that is
31:19
Speaker 4: a wonderful, beautiful thing. And and and I hope we
31:23
Speaker 4: see some bipartisan unity the next week or two.
31:27
Speaker 3: We'll find out.
31:28
Speaker 1: Center.
31:29
Speaker 2: I hope you have great success on this built We're
31:30
Speaker 2: going to keep everybody updated on it as it moves forward. Finally,
31:34
Speaker 2: I do have to call out the media. This week
31:37
Speaker 2: was one heck of a week in New York City
31:39
Speaker 2: where you're headed. Uh And it made me laugh because
31:42
Speaker 2: the media now seems to be hedging their bets that
31:45
Speaker 2: Donald Trump may win in a New York court because
31:49
Speaker 2: of the disaster that's been this trial with brag at
31:51
Speaker 2: the end and with Cohen, to the point where even
31:54
Speaker 2: CNN said this, take a look.
31:56
Speaker 8: If I'm enjoying, I've been warned that Michael Cohen lawes.
31:59
Speaker 8: The prosecutors have said this, They've set it up. I'm
32:01
Speaker 8: prepared for that. I'm prepared for. He's lied in the
32:04
Speaker 8: past repeatedly. I don't know if a jury is prepared
32:08
Speaker 8: for he lied to this jury two days ago, but
32:12
Speaker 8: now he's really telling the truth.
32:14
Speaker 6: If you have a cooperating witness that can't tell the
32:16
Speaker 6: truth of a plea allocution, that means that that witness
32:19
Speaker 6: is basically worthless.
32:20
Speaker 8: He test fright. He lied to the judge in this
32:24
Speaker 8: priority case.
32:25
Speaker 6: And then Todd blanches cross examination. So basically, whenever you
32:27
Speaker 6: get into a problem, it's always blamed somebody else. Blame
32:30
Speaker 6: President Trump, blame the judge. How many places do you
32:33
Speaker 6: have to go where this guy has lied many times
32:36
Speaker 6: under oath and it's always somebody else's fault, it's not
32:39
Speaker 6: his fault. And that's pretty powerful evidence to a jury
32:43
Speaker 6: to say, you shouldn't believe anything this guy says. And
32:45
Speaker 6: if you have to rely on his testimony in any
32:47
Speaker 6: fashion whatsoever in order to convict Donald Trump, ie, in
32:51
Speaker 6: order to fix Donald Trump's intent, you have a reasonable doubt.
32:54
Speaker 6: You can't have anything else but a reasonable doubt.
32:57
Speaker 2: Seven people are on that panel. Seven And this is
33:00
Speaker 2: how they've been covering the Trump trial the entire time.
33:02
Speaker 2: It's the center of the world for Democrats. They wanted
33:05
Speaker 2: to be guilty. They've gone all in with their most
33:07
Speaker 2: brilliant minds, and now at the very end they're like, yeah,
33:09
Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna happen because this guy's.
33:11
Speaker 1: A liar and the whole case is a joke.
33:13
Speaker 3: Look, they are obsessed with the Trump trial.
33:16
Speaker 4: CNN covers it from from dawn to dust, constantly, breathlessly.
33:20
Speaker 4: They get so excited when Stormy Daniels is on the
33:23
Speaker 4: stand and talking about sex with the president. Oh, that
33:26
Speaker 4: that makes their their their cold little hearts go pitter
33:30
Speaker 4: Pat's at CNN. But it says something when even Cianna
33:35
Speaker 4: is like, wow, this case is weak and it only
33:37
Speaker 4: takes one. They are getting very, very nervous. And and
33:42
Speaker 4: here play the second clip. Anderson, let me ask you,
33:44
Speaker 4: if I could put you in the jury box, having
33:47
Speaker 4: just witnessed that piece of cross examination, do you.
33:50
Speaker 2: Have doubts that that conversation happened the way Michael.
33:53
Speaker 8: Cohen testified on his direct examination that I think it's
33:58
Speaker 8: absolutely absolutely, I think devastating. I mean for Michael Cones's
34:02
Speaker 8: credibility on this, I mean, in this one particular topic,
34:04
Speaker 8: whether it's you know, he just didn't. I mean, it's
34:08
Speaker 8: it's hard to I don't know. Yes, I think if
34:12
Speaker 8: I was a juror in this case watching that, I
34:15
Speaker 8: would think this guy's making this up as he's going along, right,
34:18
Speaker 8: or he's making this particular story up. You know, Todd
34:22
Speaker 8: Blams was pointing out you were testifying just on Tuesday
34:26
Speaker 8: in this court, you know, and all morning along he's
34:30
Speaker 8: been pointing out, you know, inconsistencies in Michael Conees's testimony,
34:35
Speaker 8: or at least questionable aspects of Michael Cone's testimony, but
34:39
Speaker 8: nothing that you would necessarily as a juror think, Okay,
34:42
Speaker 8: that's clearly a lie. Maybe that's just a miss he
34:46
Speaker 8: was misunderstanding, or you know, he was bragging or whatever.
34:51
Speaker 1: This one.
34:52
Speaker 8: Todd Blam's clearly saved this to write before the lunch break.
34:56
Speaker 8: I'm assuming because it was just so well pres and
35:01
Speaker 8: just point by point walking through the story, which at
35:04
Speaker 8: first seemed you know why this seems like a ridico's story.
35:08
Speaker 8: It's some fourteen year old at sending him, you know,
35:10
Speaker 8: nasty text messages and he's gonna call it Keith Schiller
35:13
Speaker 8: about it. And then you realize you look at that
35:15
Speaker 8: he showed the phone lines that the prosecutor had shown,
35:18
Speaker 8: and it's the phone call that that that that Michael
35:21
Speaker 8: Cohen had previously talked about. I think it is severely
35:24
Speaker 8: damaging to Michael Cohnes's testimony.
35:26
Speaker 2: I mean, this has got to be like their worst
35:28
Speaker 2: day ever at CNN went to watch this and they're saying,
35:30
Speaker 2: they're going, look, Mike Cohen's a liar.
35:32
Speaker 1: The whole case is a shanged.
35:33
Speaker 3: Look.
35:33
Speaker 4: I'm actually wondering if CNN, like like if the hosts
35:36
Speaker 4: had become day drinkers now, like like if they're slamming
35:39
Speaker 4: back to Kila shots, the sadness that they're saying it now,
35:43
Speaker 4: now listen to be clear, Trump could still be convicted. Sure,
35:47
Speaker 4: this is a wildly left wing prosecutor, this is a
35:49
Speaker 4: wildly left wing judge, and this is a jury drawn
35:52
Speaker 4: from a New York jury pool, so presumably it is
35:55
Speaker 4: an overwhelmingly democrat jury. I don't believe any conviction. If
36:00
Speaker 4: there is one, we'll stand up on appeal. But look,
36:03
Speaker 4: given how bad things went, we could see an acquittal.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely not? Zero points zero zero zero percent chance?
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Speaker 3: Why uh?
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Speaker 4: Number one, the criminal defendant has no burden approof It
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Speaker 4: is the prosecution that has the burden of proof. The
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Speaker 4: defendant committed the crime.
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Speaker 3: Number two.
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Speaker 4: Any defendant has a Fifth Amendment right protected in the
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Speaker 4: Constitution not to testify at his own trial, and most
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Speaker 4: defendants choose not to. But number three, for any lawyer
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Speaker 4: to put Donald J. Trump on the stand under oath
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Speaker 4: and to open him up to cross examination, and by
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Speaker 4: the way, cross examination about damn near anything, particularly with
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Speaker 4: a left wing judge who's a partisan, who is not
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Speaker 4: going to corral in the cross examination, you are inviting disaster.
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Speaker 4: To be clear, there is no chance Donald Trump would
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Speaker 4: be put on the stand. It would be lunacy to
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Speaker 4: do so. I don't know if the Trump team will
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Speaker 4: have other witnesses they put on or not. They might,
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Speaker 4: they might not, but it is an absolute certainty Trump
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