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Jeff Clanagan Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: As an award winning producer and innovator in entertainment, he
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Speaker 1: currently holds roles as president and founder of Co Black
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Speaker 1: company dedicated to super serving the black community worldwide, and
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Speaker 1: probably didn't know about that, something that I've gotten involved
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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. My man Cafe Award, Cafe Moke Award.
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Speaker 1: Swagger was on a re Jeff Klanagan, what's up my brother?
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Speaker 1: How you done hey man man, Jeff jeffs is year
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Speaker 1: three as usual? You know, you keep you posted, you know,
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Speaker 1: left them The first year when we came on the
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Speaker 1: show was the twenty seventeen That's when laugh Out was
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Speaker 1: busting out, and also the you was about to launch
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Speaker 1: the the Kevin Hard uh Serious radio Show. All that
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Speaker 1: stuff was in this early stages. Give us an update
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Speaker 1: on where yet right now. I mean, we're in a
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Speaker 1: really good place and that's because of what's happening in
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Speaker 1: the industry. Um and you know, streaming is obviously you're
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Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of press about you know, people
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Speaker 1: are hanging streaming because a couple of nineteen celery but
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Speaker 1: it was it was already on on an upward trend. Unbelievable. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the past is like it's now like it's on fire
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Speaker 1: because the people are home and they're watching content. But
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Speaker 1: what's changed since the last time we talked, which has been,
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Speaker 1: which has been, which has been very a beneficial for
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Speaker 1: what I've been doing and for obviously for a lot
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Speaker 1: of other people looking at get into space, is that
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Speaker 1: when we talked last time, when we talked about streaming,
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Speaker 1: the notion was okay, you got Netflix. We know Disney
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Speaker 1: Plus is coming, we know HBO Max is coming, we
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Speaker 1: know who is coming. But those are all those are
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Speaker 1: all subscription streaming challenge. And what's happened is that with
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Speaker 1: the proliferation of the subscription challenge, meaning that I'm paying
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Speaker 1: ten dollars, I'm paying exactly, what happened a whole new
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Speaker 1: wave of a different model called a bar which is
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Speaker 1: advertising the video man which which merely means is like,
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Speaker 1: if you're watching it, you can watch it for free
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Speaker 1: with a commercial. So then you saw companies like if
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Speaker 1: you have a smart TV, you'll see you probably sell
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Speaker 1: all these acts on the TV pool, TV to Be
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Speaker 1: and in Roku and Amazon Fire, like what is all that?
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Speaker 1: They're basically the streaming platforms with audiences, but you don't
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Speaker 1: have to subscrip, right, And what ended up happening is
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Speaker 1: that Pluto, which is by by by Climb for like
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Speaker 1: four million dollars, and then two Be was just really
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Speaker 1: by box Kid. I started getting all these calls from
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Speaker 1: Pludo and to Be that like Leo in boundary, like, wait,
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Speaker 1: what's called on here? Because I learned my phone just
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Speaker 1: started blowing up the back phone looking for content, and
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Speaker 1: I just figured I figured out what I have to be.
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Speaker 1: You don't need a d you don't need to just
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Speaker 1: stop here right now. This is content King right here. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is black King King, content king I'm talking to
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Speaker 1: right now. And Jeff Clinic, you know, way back before
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Speaker 1: anybody thought about recording black people to put them over
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Speaker 1: on vhs, DVDs and blue rays or whatever, you were
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Speaker 1: doing it. So you are content King. So a lots
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Speaker 1: of want everybody know who I'm talking to right now,
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Speaker 1: continue stories, Jeff. Sometimes I got to interjective remind people
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Speaker 1: who I'm talking to him. Wasn't this as you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was the person the game for what
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Speaker 1: I call directed so with VH okay, so this is
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Speaker 1: that all over again. But here's what. Here's what when
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Speaker 1: when I started talking with the inbounds came out pretty
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Speaker 1: figured it out. Like I said, where you have all
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Speaker 1: these people, these companies running all the data, but here's
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Speaker 1: people when it comes to our people, is okay, the
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Speaker 1: average household for black folks, right, you probably have your
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Speaker 1: Netflix descriptions and you probably and you probably have an
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Speaker 1: Apple itubes for Spotify cause you're gonna listen to your music, right,
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Speaker 1: So you got you got me too, then if you have,
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Speaker 1: if you got kids kind of want to jump in
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Speaker 1: and Disney Plus it is Disney Plus also cousin with ESPN,
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Speaker 1: And so now you've got Now you've got three subscriptions.
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Speaker 1: Let's say you've got maybe one two other descriptions. But
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Speaker 1: then after that when you turn on your TV, you're
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Speaker 1: looking for free conquest. Absolutely, if you keep being on four,
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Speaker 1: you're living a good life. You're living a good life.
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Speaker 1: You shouldn't listen to my show. I'm sure you like you,
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Speaker 1: You're like you, You're good. What happened is that these
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Speaker 1: all these three AVI platforms that are now coming embedded
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Speaker 1: into the smart TVs are blowing up. I mean I
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Speaker 1: can tell you like right now, like so we so
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Speaker 1: we just launched l will well you know what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: I do it to TV, dude. I like the test
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Speaker 1: to see what's going on. So I'm rolling out by
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Speaker 1: the end of ill be on everybody. We launched on
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Speaker 1: Pluto first, because that was a big one. Like in
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Speaker 1: our first like I said yesterday, we had two point
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Speaker 1: seven monvilling minutes of people watching shows on the on
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Speaker 1: the on the channel um our first thirty days, like
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Speaker 1: we were over sixty one million UM views on the thing.
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Speaker 1: So people are people are watching. The number the numbers
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Speaker 1: are the numbers are crazy. But what it is is
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Speaker 1: that here's what the kids versus versus you're trying to
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Speaker 1: You started like a standalone channel and bring everybody to you.
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Speaker 1: I just said, Okay, I'm gonna go to where I
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Speaker 1: know people that I know. They're on Roku, I know
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Speaker 1: they're on Amazon, I know they're in Pludo. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you go to where there's an
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Speaker 1: audience that But what's happened on all these platforms is
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Speaker 1: that black content is over indexing versus versus mainstream content.
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Speaker 1: On all the pre papcorn black content is just overperformance
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Speaker 1: like like period. So that that just kind of tells
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Speaker 1: you where the market is. But at the end of
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Speaker 1: the days, when you buy these new smart TVs, people
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Speaker 1: are buy the TV. You can see these acts on
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Speaker 1: the TV and and and that's where we're at. And
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's what we're a that's it. That's all
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Speaker 1: you need. That's so that's that's exactly where it says.
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Speaker 1: So it's now obviously with COVID nineteen the numbers now
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Speaker 1: are just like it's really started. It's it's accelerating everything. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting that because that's that is
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Speaker 1: the case. Like you said, everybody got their little i G.
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Speaker 1: Talk shows. Now if you go at nighttime, the six o'clock,
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Speaker 1: everybody got a little talk show. You know, everybody tried
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Speaker 1: to come on my show. I don't even have to
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Speaker 1: book him no more. He just he's just he's just
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Speaker 1: he's self booking himself now. And so because people won't
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Speaker 1: that content now. But the beauty of it is that
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Speaker 1: this is what I like about it, is that you're
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Speaker 1: educating people to this form, this platform. And so because
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Speaker 1: once people when we're gonna get back to normal, well
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Speaker 1: this summer, people start going back to work, games to
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Speaker 1: start being played may not have fans, but there will
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Speaker 1: be games played this and so that means that these
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Speaker 1: athletes and these famous people who have all these at
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Speaker 1: night podcast at night i G. Platform, they're gonna go away.
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Speaker 1: Guess who gonna be left l O L l O
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Speaker 1: L left there wait knowing you come over here because
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Speaker 1: we're here every day, and and that I always love
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Speaker 1: talking to you because you have never been a person
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Speaker 1: to be stymied by the direction that you were going
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Speaker 1: to go, and seeing an opportunity to go over there,
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Speaker 1: you're quick to pivot. Why what? What? What? What makes
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Speaker 1: that work for you? Like that? You just are you're
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Speaker 1: a forecaster or you you have to say visionary in
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Speaker 1: some aspect, but you're not not afraid to pivot away
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Speaker 1: from the original plan. Well, I think you know, here's
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Speaker 1: the thing. What I find in an entertainment My background
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Speaker 1: is I have a business. Dogmen, I got an entertainment. Now,
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Speaker 1: I got an entertainment and learned business. So for me,
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Speaker 1: there's a bus the mindset. So I'm not attacked to
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Speaker 1: any one thing. If I'm doing this and you gotta go,
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Speaker 1: you gotta go from May to be at that, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. Where A lot of people will I
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Speaker 1: find out I gotta you know, even a lot of
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Speaker 1: business people. They get stuck in a box and if
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Speaker 1: you if it goes outside of the box, they have
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Speaker 1: trouble adjusting. I'm not like I'm gonna I'm gonna always
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Speaker 1: adjust to the business. But what happens is that with
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Speaker 1: you know, with technology and social media. Here's what people
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Speaker 1: are understand is that the consumer is going to drive
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Speaker 1: your business model. If they want to listen to rad Up,
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Speaker 1: they will listen. You have to go to what the
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Speaker 1: consumer saying. You can no longer push your business model
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Speaker 1: on the consumer because the consumer is going to tell
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Speaker 1: you how they want to consume content or or how
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Speaker 1: they want to even be entertained. And you have to
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Speaker 1: be able to be flexible and just. And you can't
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Speaker 1: be so caught up because you spent nine months putting
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Speaker 1: together a business plan and all of a sudden the
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Speaker 1: business change. You can't get so caught up. And then
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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to you gotta be able to
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Speaker 1: deflect and the justice I mean, I mean, look the
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Speaker 1: first thing, the first thing I did when when we
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Speaker 1: were in a quarantine, I put three animated projects in
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Speaker 1: productive and like, okay, I can't do the protectives who
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Speaker 1: animators said at all? I did, absolutely, absolutely, and that's
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Speaker 1: why I love it. But no, you know it is
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Speaker 1: my main master p days. You have to be able
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Speaker 1: to pivot up there, you know, n w A days,
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Speaker 1: these DVDs and all these three ways they were dropping
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Speaker 1: and so then then they became streaming. And so when
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Speaker 1: you look at all this competition and all these things
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Speaker 1: that you have out there, it really it's really important
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Speaker 1: that when I hear you go, look, Rosa, I'm frustrated,
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Speaker 1: just like everybody else. I didn't see the pandemic coming,
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Speaker 1: just like everybody else. But what I couldn't do it
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Speaker 1: just says I don't go oh always me okay. I
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Speaker 1: got animators, animators got computers, they got WiFi. Let's get busy.
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Speaker 1: Let's get busy. It's just like my staff. We do
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Speaker 1: zoom zoom meetings at eight thirty in the morning, and
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Speaker 1: we do zoom meets at four o'clock in the afternoon.
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Speaker 1: We do daily function big cause I'm in the digital
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Speaker 1: im in the social media. I'm into a podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: into like right now, I'm just gonna recording my show.
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Speaker 1: Somebody at their house is gonna chop this show up
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Speaker 1: thirty radio stations. And that's how it works. But you're
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Speaker 1: Jeff Clanican, that's you all as you all day long,
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Speaker 1: And you're listening to Rashan McDonald and you're also listening
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Speaker 1: to a good friend of mine. His name is Jeff Clanagan. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know we just talked earlier about pandemic. The pandemic
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Speaker 1: is affecting the way a lot of people are living
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Speaker 1: their lives. People could stay at home, and stay at
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Speaker 1: home has called shows like The Tiger King on Netflix
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Speaker 1: to become the emost watch documentary and the history of documentaries.
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Speaker 1: That means that streaming is there. So what also means
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Speaker 1: to us. You know, when you realize that this was
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Speaker 1: not going to be a short term stay at home,
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Speaker 1: did it cause you to move some production schedules up
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Speaker 1: or we arrange your content and to pull out old
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Speaker 1: content because you know, because people are watching more, that
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Speaker 1: means that you have to refresh a lot quicker. Correct
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Speaker 1: that that is correct. I mean, that's why I think
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Speaker 1: I had to make a real quick suggesting like I had.
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Speaker 1: I had six productions that were about to go into production,
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Speaker 1: like big production, and three of them were starring Kevin.
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Speaker 1: So what I did like it was it was it
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Speaker 1: was like a quick pivot. But so what I did
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Speaker 1: is in my said so in my two thousand one plan,
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Speaker 1: I had planned the boom moving to animation like a
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Speaker 1: big way from animates. Right, so I just okay, you know,
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Speaker 1: we have to the production the whole I call it
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Speaker 1: the animated up who were sitting at home with the
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Speaker 1: computers and internet, and we've got I've got I've got
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Speaker 1: three series in production, meaning and getting animated right now
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Speaker 1: because I already had writings and stuff right now. So
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Speaker 1: I just fast track. I put everything and everything in
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Speaker 1: fast track and started to focus on the animation right now,
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Speaker 1: right right now. And so that that's the part of
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Speaker 1: the platform that's working now now when I go to
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Speaker 1: the platform, because I'm gonna pull it up right here.
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Speaker 1: You know, you got colds Balls well season three, Kevin
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Speaker 1: Hard of course, and then you have you know, the
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Speaker 1: Kevin Best, the fresh episodes, your favorite episodes, Kevin's favorites.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just a it's just a
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Speaker 1: comedy in its finance. And so so are you chopping
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Speaker 1: up the specials? Are you are? You are you front
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Speaker 1: loading news specials, Where are you coming back? Because you know,
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Speaker 1: when they did that death Comedy jam, specially on people
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Speaker 1: doing comedy from their home, I was like, yeah, that
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Speaker 1: would work for me. So because everything everything's been shut down,
18:44
Speaker 1: your live events been shut down, so that you know,
18:47
Speaker 1: doing the animated is great, but you know, the hardest
18:50
Speaker 1: soul of what you do is tied to audience interaction
18:54
Speaker 1: exactly now. The thing about it, but I don't know
18:56
Speaker 1: if I haven't talked to you, but the ither think
18:59
Speaker 1: I had back into you may not. You probably don't
19:02
Speaker 1: know because I was playing above them, but I was
19:04
Speaker 1: actually producing um Nick Canon Wild Now Tour, which we
19:09
Speaker 1: had on the road. Yeah, we were playing and we
19:12
Speaker 1: were knocking out ten ten eleven us down. Yeah, we
19:18
Speaker 1: had to shut it down, But part of that is
19:20
Speaker 1: we were going to shoot that as a special at
19:23
Speaker 1: the end of the tour. That was the whole thing.
19:24
Speaker 1: We had cameras going during the tour. UM and I
19:27
Speaker 1: had some other life, so so obviously I had to
19:30
Speaker 1: put a pin in that UM Interns the special that
19:34
Speaker 1: was probably if I had to say, if anything to
19:36
Speaker 1: hit my business. The hardest was that because I was
19:38
Speaker 1: really going aggressively into the live business, with the Wild
19:43
Speaker 1: Now Tour being the first one. UM and and so,
19:48
Speaker 1: like you just admit to something. What's not working on
19:51
Speaker 1: social digital is comedians trying to do stand up comedy
19:55
Speaker 1: on I G and then musicians can do it and
19:57
Speaker 1: they can sing, but trying to do stand about our
20:00
Speaker 1: audience and just people try it. So it's just it's
20:04
Speaker 1: not working at all. It's just not UM. So my
20:08
Speaker 1: thing is, I've got attendant. I believe there's a window
20:15
Speaker 1: in gonna be July, Augusteptember. I gotta go back and shoot.
20:18
Speaker 1: But we don't know what's gonna happen in the fall.
20:20
Speaker 1: The food is gonna come back in the winter. So
20:22
Speaker 1: I when when we when we have this potential window,
20:25
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna knockout a budget productions, UM, stand
20:29
Speaker 1: up and everything and live stuff. In terms of touring stuff,
20:33
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a two thousand one because
20:36
Speaker 1: I just don't see it by fall. Letting you know,
20:40
Speaker 1: ten dialand people back in unless the league. I think
20:44
Speaker 1: the league, the NBA and the leagues are gonna take
20:46
Speaker 1: the front and they're the ones who gonna have to
20:48
Speaker 1: break the ground in terms. Okay, we can now go
20:51
Speaker 1: to an arena, we can go to a stadium and
20:53
Speaker 1: if if, if it's safe, then then I think you'll
20:55
Speaker 1: see the live touring stuff open. Baga. But I still
20:58
Speaker 1: think that's twenty one absolutely, especially when uh California said, hey,
21:03
Speaker 1: we canceling everything, everything, concerts, football, error, everything has a
21:08
Speaker 1: crowd and we cancel it. But I do believe I've
21:11
Speaker 1: been an advocate of Jeff of saying, hey, we gotta
21:14
Speaker 1: get back out there. We just gotta have the what
21:16
Speaker 1: are the rules to be able to socialize? You know?
21:19
Speaker 1: You know that's what That's what nobody's giving us right now.
21:22
Speaker 1: And so when I look at the program and it's
21:23
Speaker 1: being put out there and I've seen these stand ups online,
21:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand up. When I see him online trying
21:28
Speaker 1: to do stand up at the house, I go, this
21:30
Speaker 1: is not working. Who is tapping the folks from this
21:33
Speaker 1: just can't work. This can't work. And when they did that,
21:36
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a couple of people have called me,
21:38
Speaker 1: you know, we're sure you used to do that. Hey, hey,
21:40
Speaker 1: used to, used to used to and definitely like coming
21:43
Speaker 1: on on on your Instagram fee trying to do stand
21:47
Speaker 1: up with no crowd. Okay, So I don't need that
21:51
Speaker 1: level of an embarrassment in my life. So but but
21:57
Speaker 1: you do have some great productions that you have complete.
22:00
Speaker 1: It's the die Hard with you know, Jonathan and Kevin.
22:04
Speaker 1: That's well, y'all, I know what I'll do, a play
22:06
Speaker 1: on this man's last name, Kevin Hard die Hard talk
22:09
Speaker 1: to us about Ted and then ye y'all silly man,
22:14
Speaker 1: y'all you you silly Kevin Hard, silly, just silly people
22:18
Speaker 1: out there making a lot of money. Man. That's all. Well,
22:22
Speaker 1: you know what's funny was about that is that we
22:25
Speaker 1: did that with Quimby. Quimby is the new swinging platform
22:28
Speaker 1: that just launched about a month ago for promobile devices
22:32
Speaker 1: and it's it's killing movies. So basically basically shot in
22:36
Speaker 1: eighty minute narrative movie in chapel. So there's there's ten
22:39
Speaker 1: chat there's ten eight minute chapters. Um. The we finished
22:45
Speaker 1: I think you sinised the right in February. UM with
22:48
Speaker 1: the dynamic with Kevin and John was hilarious. That was
22:52
Speaker 1: to say, probably one of his best UM performances, just
22:57
Speaker 1: because the interact with John really raised level of the
23:00
Speaker 1: acting and the performance but it's it's once again we're
23:03
Speaker 1: experimented with new format with Quimby, which is the short
23:09
Speaker 1: short form exactly it was. It was, it was a
23:12
Speaker 1: great experience. It is a great we're actually working on
23:15
Speaker 1: die Hard too right now it came out the world
23:17
Speaker 1: or working on Dick Team. But now let's explaining about
23:21
Speaker 1: what Quimby really does. Okay, it could be like ten
23:23
Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes, and so that's what you said. Now,
23:25
Speaker 1: are they like um Netflix where you can just binge
23:28
Speaker 1: all the episodes or or they come out on a
23:31
Speaker 1: daily basis or a weekly basis. Well, we'll see. That's
23:35
Speaker 1: so what happened when they first started Um it was
23:39
Speaker 1: they want to do it on a daily basis of
23:40
Speaker 1: weeks versus bend. But I think the audience, you know,
23:43
Speaker 1: they're looking at the audience metics and request. I think
23:46
Speaker 1: that because I'm seeing some of the shows where they
23:48
Speaker 1: put them all up as ben and so once again,
23:50
Speaker 1: the audience, it's gonna drive how they're going to release
23:54
Speaker 1: the episode. So they came out with a model, but
23:57
Speaker 1: then they're getting the audience feedback on how they want
23:59
Speaker 1: to see. That's so I do believe they're gonna put
24:01
Speaker 1: stuff out from a bench at that point, because that's
24:04
Speaker 1: that's what the idea and how they used to watch
24:05
Speaker 1: and stuff on from the scream at that point. Yeah,
24:08
Speaker 1: that's really interesting because of the fact that you know, uh,
24:11
Speaker 1: you know, Disney was like that when Disney, because I
24:13
Speaker 1: have Disney Plus of course, and I got Disney Plus
24:15
Speaker 1: and uh Mandalarian, Okay, it came out every manner. It
24:20
Speaker 1: came out every week, so I had to wait the
24:22
Speaker 1: next week to see the episode. And it was really
24:25
Speaker 1: smart because it was a really good series. And so
24:28
Speaker 1: so I'm sure pretty sure that worked for them because
24:31
Speaker 1: guess what, every week I was right there. Otherwise they
24:33
Speaker 1: just have me for one one weekend and I was
24:36
Speaker 1: I was gone. And so but that was a really
24:39
Speaker 1: really great series, The Mandalarian. Of course Netflix has started
24:42
Speaker 1: the model of ben watching bench watching. But I think
24:45
Speaker 1: that because of quimbies. It's a short form. It forces
24:48
Speaker 1: you to want to see the next one to keep
24:50
Speaker 1: your energy going. You know, it's like, okay, let's fifteen minute,
24:53
Speaker 1: d I need to see something else here. I got
24:55
Speaker 1: time on my hands and so so so that's that's
24:58
Speaker 1: why it's really great. And when I look at Kevin
25:00
Speaker 1: and what he's done. I saw him, of course, so
25:02
Speaker 1: I mean Hobbs and Shaw and who's funny in that?
25:05
Speaker 1: And and this guy is just this just a great person,
25:08
Speaker 1: but a person who And I was doing some interview
25:10
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, I really believe that
25:13
Speaker 1: Kevin will with an oscar in his career because he
25:15
Speaker 1: really really can act. He has a he has an,
25:18
Speaker 1: he has a. He said, He's like our version of
25:20
Speaker 1: what Robin Williams was in that era, because Robin Williams
25:24
Speaker 1: could be very funny, he could act and very serious,
25:27
Speaker 1: and Kevin is to splaying those same qualities in his
25:30
Speaker 1: own way. I'm not saying he's Robin Williams, but he's
25:33
Speaker 1: Kevin Hot in his own way and with those qualities.
25:36
Speaker 1: But one of the qualities I really liked about you
25:38
Speaker 1: is that your ability to give back. And the last
25:40
Speaker 1: time we've talked about the internship program you created at
25:43
Speaker 1: l O L and how it would provide opportunities for
25:46
Speaker 1: young people to build their resume and experience. What is
25:48
Speaker 1: the update on that program, Jeff, Actually, since the last
25:52
Speaker 1: time we talked, I actually kept for my summer intern program,
25:56
Speaker 1: which is basically intern program for social media and market.
26:00
Speaker 1: Um you y'all bringing like four to six students and
26:03
Speaker 1: actually we're putting together our our team for this summer.
26:08
Speaker 1: But I actually I actually kept two of them while
26:12
Speaker 1: they were at school. Okay, okay, look they were doing
26:16
Speaker 1: so good. So I had them doing you could kick
26:18
Speaker 1: him to the curve, you could kick him to the curve.
26:21
Speaker 1: I had to keep him going like they were doing
26:23
Speaker 1: such a good job. They were doing such a good job.
26:26
Speaker 1: I kept two of them school. What's obviously is helping
26:28
Speaker 1: pay for their school. But they so they worked for me.
26:30
Speaker 1: They do like ten hours a week from you know,
26:33
Speaker 1: from school, and so they stayed on and then they're
26:35
Speaker 1: coming back the summer. But they were doing really well,
26:37
Speaker 1: they really picked up everything. Um, and I literally kept
26:42
Speaker 1: them on so help. What happened is those two will
26:45
Speaker 1: help lead this new team that I'm bringing in in
26:48
Speaker 1: the summer, right right, right right, And now you got
26:50
Speaker 1: to be the team leaders. Now is it the way
26:52
Speaker 1: that Okay, they have my listeners and other people. How
26:55
Speaker 1: could one can want participate to want to apply or
26:58
Speaker 1: how does this work? Yeah? Well, well let me tell
27:00
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I was I was on
27:03
Speaker 1: the way to doing. Um, we so we when we
27:07
Speaker 1: were shooting our Kenny the Baxtor. So when we finished
27:09
Speaker 1: that hard we were in Atlantic. Kevin had another movie,
27:13
Speaker 1: um he was gonna do, so he was gonna be
27:15
Speaker 1: in Atlanta until until Jeanne and so we were gonna
27:19
Speaker 1: shoot because we have an interview show that Kevin is
27:21
Speaker 1: doing kind of like the Dave Letterman show called Heart
27:23
Speaker 1: to Heart, and so we were gonna shoot these in Atlanta.
27:26
Speaker 1: But what I was going to do was set up
27:28
Speaker 1: a program at Spellman and more House to have students
27:32
Speaker 1: work on the work, actually work on the productions. Hemple
27:36
Speaker 1: was marketing like a whole curriculum because we were gonna
27:39
Speaker 1: be there for three or four months. So obviously we
27:42
Speaker 1: can't do that. So I gotta I gotta see some milk.
27:44
Speaker 1: But I was I was going to accelerate, like because
27:48
Speaker 1: we have a lot of productions and a lot of
27:50
Speaker 1: people in school don't get production. I was going to
27:54
Speaker 1: have a kind of a production internship program. Also. Um
27:59
Speaker 1: now I just I don't know if we're gonna go
28:01
Speaker 1: back on that, so we don't. Well, I have to
28:03
Speaker 1: figure out something else to do during the summer on it.
28:06
Speaker 1: But yes, there is the opportunity for other students to
28:08
Speaker 1: do to do different things right now, be centered around
28:12
Speaker 1: social media until I figure out what when the production
28:15
Speaker 1: strategy is gonna be Jeff, Uh, you know every okay,
28:19
Speaker 1: year four okay, I know it's gonna be a different
28:21
Speaker 1: Jeff clinic and story of success and pivity and uh
28:25
Speaker 1: and making a difference because I know that every year
28:28
Speaker 1: you've you know, because you pitched some ideas of me
28:30
Speaker 1: participating in certain formatics to reach on has changed and
28:33
Speaker 1: that doesn't. And I understand that I would relate to that,
28:36
Speaker 1: and I understand that you are clearly understanding that. Look,
28:40
Speaker 1: when I walk in this room, it may be Tuesday,
28:43
Speaker 1: but it may be a different tues than who it
28:45
Speaker 1: was last Tuesday, and be prepared to make those adjustments.
28:48
Speaker 1: And congratulations man. As always, I'm talking to Jeff Clanner,
28:51
Speaker 1: the president and founder cod Black Films and Digital cod
28:54
Speaker 1: Black Digital. That's when I met him. Now he's the
28:56
Speaker 1: president of Laugh Out Loud and Heartbaged Heartbeat Digital. He's
29:00
Speaker 1: changing the game and also changing lives. Jeff, thanks for
29:03
Speaker 1: coming on my show again. Man, thanks for having appreciate.
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