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Rushion Interviews the Queen of Crypto, Tavonia Evans | Celebrity Seafood Chef and Food Activist, Chef Natasha B! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: guest on the show is Tavanna Evans. She's the forty
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Speaker 1: seven Uh you know New York and New York. Uh mom, mom, Panura.
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Speaker 1: Let me get that at mampau. She didn't just put
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Speaker 1: a new word out there, and I can't even say it.
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Speaker 1: She has been called the Queen of Crypto due to
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Speaker 1: being an established crypto experts and the founder of the
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Speaker 1: decentralized cryptocurrency known as rob Corn. She was featured on
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Speaker 1: Glamor Magazines in May of eighteen Women in Crypto c
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Speaker 1: and then Bloomberg, Complex, tv C, NBC Recount, mclaire and
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Speaker 1: uh liveaty anything that has to do with talking about
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Speaker 1: this new money that we as African America, we as
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Speaker 1: people of color, need to be aware of it. I
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Speaker 1: got on the shoulder today to eat. Continue to educate
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Speaker 1: me on it. Please work with the Money Making Conversation
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Speaker 1: Master Class. Tavannah Evans. Well, two things when I bring
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Speaker 1: an expert like you, Tavana, because I'm gonna tell you,
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Speaker 1: I I am a credit card person, I am a
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Speaker 1: cash person. I am a guy who uh knows the
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Speaker 1: banking systems that I've been raised on. And so now
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Speaker 1: you're introducing a digital currency platform that some people and
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Speaker 1: even myself when it came out, I said, oh, this
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Speaker 1: is a scam, how you because I couldn't I couldn't
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Speaker 1: hold my money, I couldn't hold a credit card, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't hold five dollars, ten dollars or coins. What has
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Speaker 1: been is that the is that the world that you
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Speaker 1: hear a lot from a person like me or people
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Speaker 1: like me when it comes to cryptocurrency. Absolutely, But I
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Speaker 1: love the way you started out by saying new money
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Speaker 1: because most of us in our community don't realize that
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Speaker 1: this is actually money, right. Um. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: people think that crypto is either a stock or just
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Speaker 1: simply an investment instrument or you know, uh, like you said,
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Speaker 1: a scam, um. But what they failed to realize is
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Speaker 1: that it's been around for well aware a decade now,
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Speaker 1: and the rest of the world is using this every day,
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Speaker 1: and we're behind as Americans, and then we're even further
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Speaker 1: by as Black Americans. Well here's my whole thought to
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Speaker 1: try to simplify the world. When people say, well, cryptocurgy,
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Speaker 1: I don't live like that because, like I go to
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Speaker 1: this uh kind of like fast food restaurant called Quava
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Speaker 1: Guava Carver. Carver C, A v A. You can't even
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Speaker 1: use cash, so I gotta use the credit card to
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Speaker 1: do business in there. So I'm already in the digital
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Speaker 1: currency world. The crypto is living in Okay. And then
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Speaker 1: when you have a credit card, you have a credit card,
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Speaker 1: let me put on there so you can So you're
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Speaker 1: already in that digital currency world because you're spending money
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Speaker 1: technically that you are being granted based on your credit reach.
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Speaker 1: And so there's a huge difference. Okay, cool understanding. I'm
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Speaker 1: just trying to trying to wrap my head around people
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Speaker 1: who are listening so they can know they're kind of
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Speaker 1: dealing in this digital space already right there. And then
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Speaker 1: I broke you on the show, Diviner can kind of
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Speaker 1: transition us to this new space, this new money space
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Speaker 1: that's happening that we need to be a part of.
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Speaker 1: So that's I wanted to. I was gonna stop right there.
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Speaker 1: So then you can take us or explain with Sean.
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Speaker 1: Good good example, but the wrong example. Right. It's a
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Speaker 1: great example, don't get me wrong, but there's a huge difference,
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Speaker 1: and it's that actual difference that we kind of fall
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Speaker 1: behind on. When you're talking about credit, you're talking about
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Speaker 1: a centralized system that's not really your money. Right, So
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Speaker 1: you talked about you mentioned limits, you mentioned UM. You know,
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Speaker 1: we all premit credit limits, and you know even when
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Speaker 1: we're using the debit card, we still have debit card limits.
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Speaker 1: But when it comes to cryptocurrency, you are the bank.
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Speaker 1: So this is your money. There are no limits to
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Speaker 1: what you can send and what you can spend. So
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Speaker 1: that's the huge difference between UM crypto, the crypto digital currency,
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Speaker 1: and the digital currencies that we're using is that this
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Speaker 1: is your money. There is no intermediary between you and
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Speaker 1: your money when it comes to decentralized crypto. And that's
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Speaker 1: why people love it so much because it's the is
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Speaker 1: disrupting the power structure, structure that exists between you and
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Speaker 1: your money. Right. And so now I know it's real because,
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Speaker 1: like I said, the Staples Center was just named crypto
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Were the Lakers and the Clippers play
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. So nobody's going to give naming rights
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Speaker 1: to something that's a fad or scam, and so so
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Speaker 1: that that that has a huge air of legitimacy. We
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Speaker 1: talked about all these billionaires that have made went through cryptocurrency.
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Speaker 1: Now How did you get involved in crypto? Because, like
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Speaker 1: I said, we met several years ago while I was
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Speaker 1: still managing Steve Harvey, and you have a tech background,
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Speaker 1: and we were trying to develop a dating app and
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Speaker 1: also an app tied to the to that famous strawberry
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Speaker 1: leather at the time. So I know you have the
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Speaker 1: tech background. And so now you in the crypto world
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Speaker 1: called the crypto queen. How did you make that transition?
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Speaker 1: Because that was more just techie techie. Now this is fintech. Well,
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Speaker 1: in found it a company calls safe to Me and
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Speaker 1: which was a peer to peer verification platform. And it
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Speaker 1: was during that time when I came into the knowledge
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Speaker 1: that black people don't get funded by vcs. Right, Um,
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Speaker 1: not only black people, but black women. Black women get
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Speaker 1: less than a percentage point. So when it came to
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Speaker 1: time to time for us to actually scale our m
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Speaker 1: v P, there was no money to do so. Right,
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Speaker 1: So that caught my attention. Crypto caught my attention a
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Speaker 1: little more because I saw that they were actual tech
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Speaker 1: companies out there that were using crypto to raise funds
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Speaker 1: for their projects. Right, So it clicked to me, Wow,
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Speaker 1: crypto is money, because believe it or not. I was
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Speaker 1: introduced a big point a long time ago, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't quite understand that big point was actually money, right,
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Speaker 1: So it was at that point that I realized that
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Speaker 1: this is money. And in our community, we've been talking
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Speaker 1: about the black dollar for so long, but we really
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Speaker 1: technically don't have a black dollar. But what if we did,
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Speaker 1: and what if we had a black dollar that could
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Speaker 1: ride on on the rails of a blockchain and it
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Speaker 1: be transparent and then have more trust and and it
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Speaker 1: would have government intervention. That was like a light went
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Speaker 1: off in my head. So not only did I see
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Speaker 1: crypto as an opportunity for me to be able to
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Speaker 1: get capital for all my great tech ideas, but I
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Speaker 1: also thought as an opportunity for us to use in
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Speaker 1: our community and have greater access to money outside of
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Speaker 1: vcs and banks, et cetera. That you know, of course,
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Speaker 1: are you know, very not fair to our community. And
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Speaker 1: if we hear the word fair, we hear the word education,
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Speaker 1: and hear the word uh lasting line. You know, that's
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Speaker 1: what people of color are at, tied to those you know,
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Speaker 1: last hired, you know, last and first to let go
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Speaker 1: or first fire that some people may use the terminology
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Speaker 1: how can we as African Americans, because that's what I
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Speaker 1: am and as an African Americans, how can we how
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Speaker 1: can we start catching up? Well, one of the ways
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Speaker 1: that we can start catching up is we have to
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Speaker 1: start having more value in ourselves and having more value
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Speaker 1: in what we offer. The black tech community has is
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Speaker 1: rich when it comes to solutions to our condition. However,
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Speaker 1: we suffer from a lack of support, you know. So
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Speaker 1: you know, we may come up with a platform that
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Speaker 1: might be a social media platform, but people are preferred
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Speaker 1: to be on Facebook, which is predatory, or they may
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Speaker 1: prefer to be on Instagram or whatever, right, and they
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Speaker 1: don't really we don't really give our own affair shake
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Speaker 1: when it comes to tech. And I mentioned that you
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Speaker 1: know before the show. Tech is very buggy and initially
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Speaker 1: not the prettiest looking thing. It's not the pretty tech
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Speaker 1: that actually goes on to being the more successful. It's
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Speaker 1: the more functional. Right. So we tend to have a
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Speaker 1: lot of patients with these um new tech that we
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Speaker 1: put out m v P S or whatever it's and
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Speaker 1: we we might compare it to other larger funded projects
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Speaker 1: out there. There are projects out there UM for instance,
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Speaker 1: UM the guy who started we work. Right, his his
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Speaker 1: company almost went under, but then he was refunded again
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Speaker 1: a couple of hundred million dollars for a new project. Right,
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Speaker 1: So in block tech, we have to come out and
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Speaker 1: compete with these guys who are coming in the coming
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Speaker 1: in the space with hundreds of millions of dollars even
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Speaker 1: billion dollars evaluations, when we can't even raise a million dollars,
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Speaker 1: you know. And what we have to understand is that
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Speaker 1: what gets us this money is to support people. In
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Speaker 1: tact equal data, data equals currency equals money. So we
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Speaker 1: need people to support our projects so that we can
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Speaker 1: get to that level to where we can solve the
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Speaker 1: problems and issues in our community and we can also
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Speaker 1: flourish and close the wealth gap. Well, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: talking to uh Tavana evans Um. She is the Queen
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Speaker 1: of Crypto since seventeen, she has been an expert global
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Speaker 1: voice for blockchains, UH Language, big corns, n f t s.
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Speaker 1: Because that's what I've been trying to bring on this
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Speaker 1: show where you have money making conversation Maskacage. You've better
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Speaker 1: to talk about money and you better to tell people
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Speaker 1: how to understand money, because we all know how to
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Speaker 1: spend it to a certain degree when inflation, every times
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Speaker 1: you go up to a gas pump and you don't
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Speaker 1: know if you can fill it up or halfway or
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Speaker 1: quarter tank or just here's five dollars and five dollars.
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Speaker 1: Basically we'll just get you home. Nowadays, so with that
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Speaker 1: being said, in the in the world that we live in,
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Speaker 1: how does one get into the cryptocurrency world. That's gonna
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Speaker 1: be my first question to Tavana. Well, the first thing
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Speaker 1: you want to do, and it depends on where you're
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Speaker 1: coming from. Some of us won't come from a creative side,
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Speaker 1: like we're interested in maybe using this as a solution,
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Speaker 1: and the others we're just consumers. We want to see
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Speaker 1: how we can use this more efficiently. So if you're
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Speaker 1: coming in just as a basic person coming new to crypto,
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Speaker 1: the first thing you want to do is get a wallet, right,
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Speaker 1: and not only that, let me back up. The first
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Speaker 1: thing you want to do is get a little education. Right.
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Speaker 1: So we talk a lot about their not being crypto education,
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Speaker 1: but yes, there nowadays there is more crypto education out there.
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Speaker 1: There are more programs out there to get the basics.
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Speaker 1: So start out with a little crypto education, just a
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Speaker 1: little bit. But the main thing that you want to
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Speaker 1: do is you want to get a wallet. Wallets are easy,
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Speaker 1: they're free, and that's how you get. That's like the
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Speaker 1: doorway or the gateway into crypto. You know, I know,
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Speaker 1: in the in the community is like a little southern thing.
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Speaker 1: You say, you have a wallet. You know you're gonna
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Speaker 1: eventually have money to fill it up, right, so you
11:20
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you but but you gotta
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Speaker 1: get a wallet first. So yes, and crypto, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get a wallet. And it's not a physical wallet. It
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Speaker 1: is a software, it is digital, and they're all kind
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Speaker 1: of wallets. You have non custodial wallets, and you have
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Speaker 1: custodial wallets. US crypto heads we prefer that you get
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Speaker 1: a non custodial wallet. And what that means is you're
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Speaker 1: getting a wallet that truly is connected to the blockchain
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Speaker 1: and is not owned by someone else. So for instance,
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Speaker 1: if you go on, if you sign up to point based,
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Speaker 1: for instance, you're gonna get a custodial wallet. That's almost
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Speaker 1: like having a bank account, meaning you got to prove
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Speaker 1: who you are and they they actually hold your wallet,
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Speaker 1: it's not yours. And a front of mind. Another crypto
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Speaker 1: person he goes bitcoin, is that he goes it's not
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Speaker 1: your keys, it's not your cheese. So basically, if you
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Speaker 1: don't have your keys or your wallet key, then someone
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Speaker 1: else is holding it and they actually hold your funds.
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Speaker 1: So you want to have a non custodial wallet which
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Speaker 1: they're going to give you keys. So that means if
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Speaker 1: you decide that you want to take your money somewhere else,
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Speaker 1: or even if you want to take your crypto offline
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Speaker 1: and store it on a paper somewhere, you always have
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Speaker 1: your keys and you can do that. So we always
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Speaker 1: suggest that you get a non custodial wallet to start
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Speaker 1: out with so you truly own your money. Now. Glop Corn, well,
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Speaker 1: that's something that started in twenty seventeen and you wanted
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Speaker 1: the inspirations when it was launched. Is a decentralized cryptocurrency
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Speaker 1: is similar to big corn. Okay, so let's let's talk
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Speaker 1: about big corns because I want to, like, at the
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Speaker 1: end of the end of view, hopefully I simplify some
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Speaker 1: of the terminology. You know, we talked about the wallet,
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Speaker 1: you talked about Constoleio, non constolio. That's an education point
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Speaker 1: there becaustorial means you don't have ownership of your money
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Speaker 1: basically you opened a bank account. A noncstorial means you
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Speaker 1: have control. You can take your money what you want
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Speaker 1: to take offline to keep it online. Now let's go
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Speaker 1: to this crop corn, which is a decentralized cryptocurrency. Well
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Speaker 1: decentralized again, Beach always stressed that because that means that
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Speaker 1: there's no middleman, no company or anything running it. This
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Speaker 1: is a cryptocurrency is strictly owned by the people. And
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Speaker 1: what I mean by the people is when you get
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Speaker 1: a wallet, then you become an owner, a stakeholder in
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Speaker 1: this whole project, right, And that's what makes it similar
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Speaker 1: to bitcoin, because Bitcoin is also a decentralized crypto. That
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Speaker 1: means that there's no owner, there's no company running pulling
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Speaker 1: the streams in the background. There's nobody you can call
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Speaker 1: for customer service. And bitcoin if you have a problem
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Speaker 1: and um, you have to participate in the company. So
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Speaker 1: that I'm sorry, in the community, because that's what these
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Speaker 1: cryptos are about. Decentralized cryptocurrencies are about community. They're based
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Speaker 1: on community. So the commune unity gets to share and
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Speaker 1: rr and and tell everybody get this crypto and all
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Speaker 1: of that because they're all equal stakeholders in this thing.
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Speaker 1: No one can just come and pull the plug. That's
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Speaker 1: the difference with a decentralized crypto as well. No one
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Speaker 1: can come and pull the plug and say, hey, this
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Speaker 1: project is gonna get shut down and we're gonna just
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Speaker 1: take it and we're gonna run. No one can take
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Speaker 1: your money because that is your you are having in
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Speaker 1: a non fostodial wallet, right and you have say, you
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Speaker 1: get to vote a lot, you know, you get to
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Speaker 1: be a partner community, and you have say in the
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Speaker 1: direction of the crypto in the future. So this is
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Speaker 1: the model that we chose for wild coin because this
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Speaker 1: really truly gives us autonomy when it comes to money,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to breed trust in the community when
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Speaker 1: it comes to money as well. We'll be right back
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Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushan McDonald.
14:53
Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know face book changed their name to Meta, you know, which, uh,
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Speaker 1: nobody saw that coming, and so you have this whole
15:05
Speaker 1: method and it's really interesting how you know, you watch
15:09
Speaker 1: these marvels and DC, like I watched I watch The
15:12
Speaker 1: Flash on c W and so that's where metaverse comes
15:16
Speaker 1: to my world, all these different metads. So that's the
15:18
Speaker 1: first introduction into the world of metaverse was do this, uh,
15:22
Speaker 1: you know, this action adventure series. And so when I started,
15:25
Speaker 1: when I heard that Facebook was changing their name to
15:28
Speaker 1: meta And then you know when you start talking about
15:30
Speaker 1: crop cities and echoes, sustate of metaverse in real life
15:32
Speaker 1: smart city which focuses on educating the citizens on land ownership.
15:38
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that smart city. Let's talk about the metaverse.
15:41
Speaker 1: Let's talk about all these of terminology which tends to
15:43
Speaker 1: jump from fantasy land to reality. And when it becomes reality,
15:48
Speaker 1: that's where the education comes on, and that's when you
15:50
Speaker 1: need to go. Then there's just a just read when
15:54
Speaker 1: when a major company, a billion dollar company, says call
15:57
Speaker 1: us meta now we need to start listening, especially when
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Speaker 1: they control the social media platforms that we all participate in.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean as a geek, I'm a total
16:09
Speaker 1: metaverse geek. Been involved in the metaverse for a long
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Speaker 1: time as well. It's not a new thing, been around
16:14
Speaker 1: for quite a bit um but the metaverse, we felt
16:18
Speaker 1: it is not going to solve our problems so solely
16:21
Speaker 1: as African Americans and as the global diaspora, because a
16:25
Speaker 1: lot of our problems exist offline. We don't even have
16:27
Speaker 1: the money, the resources as a collective to even catch
16:31
Speaker 1: up to where they are in terms of building the
16:34
Speaker 1: metaverse and those products. Right, So we have to solve
16:37
Speaker 1: both problems. And we also have to solve problems that
16:40
Speaker 1: are coming, whether it's the recession, whether it's food and security, um.
16:44
Speaker 1: And we also have to solve the problem of educating
16:47
Speaker 1: our folks to be become more sustainable and and UM
16:51
Speaker 1: so that we can survive, you know, um, the things
16:54
Speaker 1: that are coming. So these are these are um problems
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Speaker 1: that we feel any unique to us that also can
17:00
Speaker 1: go hand in hand with the metabors. So we've been
17:03
Speaker 1: acquiring land in Georgia, uh and you know, basically we
17:07
Speaker 1: brought it up under the Monica Block City. So we're
17:10
Speaker 1: trying to build a sustainable city and a sustainable city
17:13
Speaker 1: model which will function as a framework that other people
17:17
Speaker 1: can use to create sustainable cities, whether it's UM in
17:20
Speaker 1: another state or whether it's in another country. So so
17:24
Speaker 1: our whole thing is to build this foundational model that
17:27
Speaker 1: is governed by the blockchain, which is what we call
17:30
Speaker 1: dolls or decentralized autonomous organizations, which allow people to vote
17:35
Speaker 1: on practically everything you need to do when it comes
17:38
Speaker 1: to a city, right, and not only vote, but vote
17:41
Speaker 1: in a transparent way, in a undisruptible way, so there's
17:45
Speaker 1: no somebody's tampering with voting papers and all of that,
17:49
Speaker 1: but you can actually vote on the immutable blockchain, which
17:52
Speaker 1: creates more security. So, um, the concept of the DOW
17:57
Speaker 1: is kind of sort of still new, right, and we
18:00
Speaker 1: don't want our folks to be left behind that as well,
18:03
Speaker 1: you know, because of you know, the technology gap that exists.
18:06
Speaker 1: So we're opening up this world to um, you know,
18:09
Speaker 1: to African American and global diaspora so that we can
18:13
Speaker 1: you know, not only just catch up, so we can
18:15
Speaker 1: also thrive when it comes to building smart cities and
18:19
Speaker 1: and also building metaverses, because that's what we're doing. We're
18:22
Speaker 1: building metal versus. There's actually not a metaverse. There is
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Speaker 1: metavers is. Anyone can create a metaverse, and that's a misunderstanding.
18:31
Speaker 1: Um that's kind of been put out there a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's putting put out there so we can kind
18:36
Speaker 1: of you know, be yanked up into one construct by somebody.
18:40
Speaker 1: But anyone can build a metaverse. It's not just a
18:43
Speaker 1: one thing, you know. So we were trying to dispel
18:46
Speaker 1: a lot of the myths out there about these technologies
18:49
Speaker 1: as well that may potentially um cause a disadvantage to
18:54
Speaker 1: us because we number one, we have great social capital
18:58
Speaker 1: and a lot of these companies would love to be
19:00
Speaker 1: able to tap into our social capital to push along
19:03
Speaker 1: their agendas and their platforms and stuff, and we want
19:05
Speaker 1: to own ours. So you know that's the difference. Well
19:08
Speaker 1: you know that, Yeah, I got to go to the
19:10
Speaker 1: other page. Because people see money, um and they see
19:15
Speaker 1: an opportunity. They poorly educated or not educated enough. So
19:19
Speaker 1: how does want evolved the wrong relationship or the scam
19:23
Speaker 1: relationship or the relationship is not a scam. You just
19:27
Speaker 1: invested in their w own direction to open your wallet
19:30
Speaker 1: on the wrong platform. Let's start with the wallet, Well,
19:34
Speaker 1: you should open it in I think the best protection
19:37
Speaker 1: is community. That's why I said that the foundation of
19:40
Speaker 1: these projects are community. You should be joining communities that
19:44
Speaker 1: align with your core principles, you know, and not just
19:48
Speaker 1: joining the community because of money. A community that says, yeah,
19:51
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a ton of money by joining our community. No,
19:55
Speaker 1: you should be joining communities that align with your four principles,
19:58
Speaker 1: that are working on real life solution things that impact
20:00
Speaker 1: you in a real life way, you know, and and
20:03
Speaker 1: that's going to, you know, again, make you want to
20:06
Speaker 1: delve a little bit deeper, make you more comfortable in
20:09
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're not a fish out of water.
20:11
Speaker 1: You're not just joining on some project that you know
20:13
Speaker 1: nothing about, but they're promising you all of these payments
20:16
Speaker 1: in in um you know, future riches and etcetera. That's
20:21
Speaker 1: not what we're promising work LaPoint. We're promising a tool
20:24
Speaker 1: that we can all use to come together and build
20:27
Speaker 1: a financial community and then build a data community and
20:32
Speaker 1: use our resources to reinvest in our offline communities. So,
20:37
Speaker 1: you know, you want to find something that you can
20:39
Speaker 1: align with, and that's what people were doing earlier on.
20:42
Speaker 1: Earlier on, there were many projects and people would find
20:45
Speaker 1: projects that they really were interested in. That it could
20:48
Speaker 1: be something like save the dolphins, you know, but you
20:50
Speaker 1: were really interested in this this project, So you join
20:53
Speaker 1: the project and you put your your not only invested
20:56
Speaker 1: your money, but you invested your interests and you invested
20:59
Speaker 1: your time in these projects. So I think that's the
21:03
Speaker 1: big key. The key is to align with those projects
21:07
Speaker 1: that align with you, right, And so it's all about,
21:11
Speaker 1: like I said, relationships, which is just which is typical,
21:16
Speaker 1: and trying to establish credit. You know, you have to
21:18
Speaker 1: work for a company, the developer understand that that company
21:22
Speaker 1: has a long term investment in you. You invest your
21:24
Speaker 1: time into the company. In order the good credit, you've
21:27
Speaker 1: got to pay people on the time of the basis.
21:29
Speaker 1: But in this cryptocurrency world, I guess the word is
21:32
Speaker 1: just digital. It guess old habits are hard to break.
21:35
Speaker 1: I guess that's the term I should put into this conversation.
21:39
Speaker 1: And then the comfort zone. You know, we're already as
21:41
Speaker 1: African Americans, we don't invest enough in the stock market enough.
21:45
Speaker 1: We know we're not We're low in participants in that world.
21:49
Speaker 1: Uh we you know, we still go to these check
21:51
Speaker 1: cashing places to cash our checks. We don't have the
21:54
Speaker 1: banking facilities and African American neighborhoods. Even though the younger
21:59
Speaker 1: generation of US are very prone to use and prone
22:02
Speaker 1: in a very positive amount of apps, which they still are.
22:05
Speaker 1: The generations that may start investing in the cryptocurrency. I
22:09
Speaker 1: asked you this question and not saying you're the expert
22:11
Speaker 1: to say this, but is the older generation lost in
22:16
Speaker 1: trying to understand the cryptocurrency world? Not at all. My
22:20
Speaker 1: grandmother was ninety nine years old. She passed away in January,
22:23
Speaker 1: and she was one of my biggest supporters with black Point.
22:26
Speaker 1: She very well understood what we were trying to do
22:29
Speaker 1: in terms of creating a currency that we could use
22:31
Speaker 1: in our community. She understood totally. So I felt that
22:35
Speaker 1: my year old grandmother can get it. Anyone could get it.
22:38
Speaker 1: Of course, the younger generations, they're more socially savvy, and
22:42
Speaker 1: really this is you know, you talked about how we
22:45
Speaker 1: we haven't really invested in these other things, but we're
22:48
Speaker 1: fully invested in social media, don't don't you know? We
22:51
Speaker 1: can't discount that, you know, we're fully invested in social media.
22:55
Speaker 1: Like if we were to pull out of Instagram and
22:57
Speaker 1: that would include all of the celebrities that we know tomorrow,
23:00
Speaker 1: then we're with Instagram. Graham b um Snoop already said
23:05
Speaker 1: that he was one of the first celebrities on Instagram
23:08
Speaker 1: and pulled in a lot of people with him when
23:10
Speaker 1: he came. So we have to understand that we've already
23:13
Speaker 1: been investing with our social capital. So we're savvy enough
23:17
Speaker 1: to now take our social capital capital and lead to
23:20
Speaker 1: another system and actually monetize our social capital, because that's
23:24
Speaker 1: what crypto does. Crypto gives us the ability to monetize
23:27
Speaker 1: our social value and our social capital. People always ask well,
23:30
Speaker 1: where does it come from? Where does the value come from?
23:32
Speaker 1: That it comes from you. It comes from your social value, right,
23:36
Speaker 1: and when you do that, you know you win. I'm
23:39
Speaker 1: talking to Vada uh Evans. She is the She's called
23:43
Speaker 1: the Queen of Crypto, which I think is the title
23:46
Speaker 1: most appropriate. And like I said, when I bring people
23:49
Speaker 1: on my show Money Making Conversation Master Class, I a
23:52
Speaker 1: working history or working relationship. It's very important. She reminded
23:55
Speaker 1: me Ra Sean we met before and said to thousand nine,
24:01
Speaker 1: I was doing an app for you on your data
24:02
Speaker 1: NEP which really comforted me because when I never tell
24:06
Speaker 1: you something dividor when I because people listen to me,
24:08
Speaker 1: people have would trust to me. And when I bring
24:10
Speaker 1: individuals on this show and they start talking about cryptocurrency,
24:13
Speaker 1: you know it comes with a warning label. You know,
24:15
Speaker 1: because of the fact that do your research. Just so
24:18
Speaker 1: just because I'm bringing somebody on there, you know, I
24:21
Speaker 1: understand there's risk. You know, there's no risk when you
24:24
Speaker 1: get on the airplane's risk when you drive your car.
24:27
Speaker 1: But this is direct risk because it involves your money.
24:30
Speaker 1: How can they reach out to you? How could they?
24:33
Speaker 1: Do you have courses? Do you have online of setups
24:37
Speaker 1: where people can take monthly page subscriptions to be educated
24:41
Speaker 1: because Bible big walk away from this interview is that
24:44
Speaker 1: they need to find you educate themselves based on your
24:48
Speaker 1: legacy that you put out there and your reputation. Yeah. Absolutely,
24:54
Speaker 1: Well it's two ways. I am a masterclass teacher on
24:58
Speaker 1: a platform called Class Rebel as Class Rebel dot com
25:02
Speaker 1: um and we have free introductory crypto classes that lead
25:06
Speaker 1: into a longer, more intensive couple of day crypto classes.
25:10
Speaker 1: So if you follow me on social media um, whether
25:13
Speaker 1: it's LinkedIn Tavannah Evans or or Twitter Tavannah Evans or
25:17
Speaker 1: even guappoint, you'll see your way to get into our
25:21
Speaker 1: free crypto um class. And then also we have an
25:25
Speaker 1: initiative called one million Wallets dot com and one million
25:29
Speaker 1: Wallace is Our is our effort to go out anywhere
25:32
Speaker 1: someone asks us to show up and instruct the people
25:36
Speaker 1: on crypto. So whether it's your church, or whether it's
25:38
Speaker 1: your organization, or if you could get together twenty to
25:41
Speaker 1: fifty people, we will show up. I will show up
25:45
Speaker 1: personally and educate you on cryptocurrency. UM. So that's one
25:50
Speaker 1: of our other initiatives as well. One million. It's one
25:53
Speaker 1: million wallets dot com um and you can visit us
25:56
Speaker 1: at gawpoint dot org and we have some links. Will
25:59
Speaker 1: have links also to one million wallet. But that's our
26:02
Speaker 1: big initiative. We want to go. You know, I decided
26:05
Speaker 1: like six months ago, I want to get on the streets,
26:09
Speaker 1: like I want to be right there on the streets
26:11
Speaker 1: educating people about this, you know. And you know that's
26:14
Speaker 1: where we came up with one million wallets, because we're
26:17
Speaker 1: going to get a million people to get a wallet.
26:19
Speaker 1: It's free, just get a wallet, you know. And in
26:22
Speaker 1: the process of getting a wallet, you help us to
26:25
Speaker 1: be able to grow to a point where we can
26:27
Speaker 1: help you and we can teach you all you need
26:30
Speaker 1: to know about crypto and answer all of your questions.
26:33
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm excited, UM. I want you to
26:36
Speaker 1: do me a favor. I have a newsletter that goes
26:39
Speaker 1: out every Wednesday at ten a m. It goes out
26:41
Speaker 1: to six or six thousand plus. We have an open
26:45
Speaker 1: rate about thirty six, so that means that they don't
26:48
Speaker 1: discard my newsletter when it comes across their desk. The
26:51
Speaker 1: industry standard, I think it's like fifteen percent open rate.
26:55
Speaker 1: And I like to those free classes. If you have
26:57
Speaker 1: a banner that you can email to me, so we
27:01
Speaker 1: can put that in a newsletter. And I love that
27:03
Speaker 1: one million wallets. I like to I like, I like
27:06
Speaker 1: to become an advocate, if you don't mind, because I
27:08
Speaker 1: like to be able to to to educate myself and
27:12
Speaker 1: educate my base. But the free h the free crypto classes,
27:16
Speaker 1: I think you can really get them in and I
27:18
Speaker 1: like to put it dropping in my newsletter if you
27:20
Speaker 1: don't mind. Thank you awesome. Yeah. So so get with
27:25
Speaker 1: the Marissa or who hands all the bookings on this
27:28
Speaker 1: show for this particular segment. And I really am sincerely
27:31
Speaker 1: telling you Devon Emands. I may not have remembered you
27:34
Speaker 1: from two thousand nine, but I remember you in two
27:37
Speaker 1: I want your help, I want to use your talents.
27:41
Speaker 1: I want to use your abilities to help turn that curve.
27:44
Speaker 1: Like you said, just sign up for a whilet it's free.
27:47
Speaker 1: I need to put my name on the wallet. You know, Telford,
27:50
Speaker 1: who's my producer and this for this show every week,
27:52
Speaker 1: he needs to put his name on a wallet. So
27:54
Speaker 1: we can start at least creeping into that world and
27:57
Speaker 1: develop some level of comfort that we can be participant.
28:01
Speaker 1: And it's not a scam, it's not something that you
28:04
Speaker 1: that you should avoid. You should avoid it. You should
28:07
Speaker 1: run to it, run to it with a with proper
28:09
Speaker 1: family guidance. That so I took away from you family
28:12
Speaker 1: and visionary, and I consider your visionary. But Tavana, most importantly,
28:16
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations master Class.
28:19
Speaker 1: Thank you you've been wonderful. And again this is a
28:23
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28:28
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28:31
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28:34
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28:39
Speaker 1: don't stop yourself from being a part of the economic
28:42
Speaker 1: gains that are being made out there, especially in the
28:44
Speaker 1: digital currency world. The murder version is real, y'all, And
28:47
Speaker 1: she said metavers is absolutely We'll be right back with
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29:22
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29:34
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29:39
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30:04
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Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have different definitions of success.
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Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.
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Speaker 1: Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals and live
30:15
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30:18
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30:21
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30:24
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30:34
Speaker 1: My next guess is the underground Seafood Chief Natasha billups
30:41
Speaker 1: are Natasha a little my little superman, my little MegaMan
30:46
Speaker 1: failed when I said her name, that's how hot, mama.
30:49
Speaker 1: She's a beautiful, beautiful Chief Natasha beat You've heard about
30:54
Speaker 1: her Fried her Keen, Fried Fried King Legs and Fried
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Speaker 1: Lobster tails and Jack Daniel Real Bible where she is
31:01
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about them and how it
31:03
Speaker 1: all started when she was just selling plates to get ahead,
31:06
Speaker 1: get her attention. Chef Natasha be As an award winning
31:09
Speaker 1: celebrity chef, a single mom the three children starting eight
31:12
Speaker 1: years and younger, she experienced some big changes in her
31:15
Speaker 1: life divorce, moving back in with her parents. I did
31:17
Speaker 1: that in college. I know about that experience, getting kicked
31:20
Speaker 1: out of nursing school, learning to well, I love. This
31:24
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great story. Listen to how she
31:26
Speaker 1: took her experiences and her passion and turned them into
31:29
Speaker 1: a business. She alcer stairs was coming up in a
31:31
Speaker 1: pipeline for expiring chefs and how and what she does
31:35
Speaker 1: to help them out. Please Welcome to Money Making Conversations
31:39
Speaker 1: Masterclass the One and Only Chef Natasha B. How you
31:42
Speaker 1: don Tasha say Tasha, say Natasha say Natasha. Yes, that's perfect, Okay, cool,
31:50
Speaker 1: because you know quickly, you know, you know, because you
31:53
Speaker 1: seem so so relaxed. You seem like a you know,
31:56
Speaker 1: because perception, when you hear the words chef have to
32:00
Speaker 1: come at birth people with a certain angle or you know,
32:02
Speaker 1: kind of like be a little bit more stiff, but
32:04
Speaker 1: you seem like you're really down the earth for a
32:07
Speaker 1: natural person who listens to good music, know how to
32:10
Speaker 1: dance and have a good time. Am I seeing the
32:13
Speaker 1: right person off? Just? Uh? If I missed the boat
32:16
Speaker 1: by a hundred bombs, you know you have me. I
32:22
Speaker 1: can't dance. I have two left feet. Wow. Wow, now
32:26
Speaker 1: let's talk about Okay, now, why can't you do the
32:30
Speaker 1: time too? Because you don't understanding? Is that? Because in
32:32
Speaker 1: the kitchen is a rhythm to kitch cooking? You know
32:35
Speaker 1: that you're getting a rhythm? You know? Uh? Like I
32:38
Speaker 1: don't listen to when I cook. I cannot listen to music.
32:41
Speaker 1: I tried to listen to sports on and destroyed so
32:44
Speaker 1: many meals. I realized, Okay, you have to be focused
32:47
Speaker 1: when you're in the kitchen. So what is your tone
32:50
Speaker 1: of your kitchen when you're in there? Or do you
32:52
Speaker 1: listen to anything? Or you just focus on the mill
32:55
Speaker 1: at hand. You don't like people talking to you? What
32:57
Speaker 1: is the role that you play as a chef when
33:00
Speaker 1: you're preparing meals? Oh, I definitely want to hear music.
33:06
Speaker 1: I definitely want to hear music. Um, So I will dance,
33:11
Speaker 1: especially if my clients are dancing, I'll catch their vibe
33:15
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm going with them slow, but I
33:18
Speaker 1: definitely want music. It helps me just just good music, though,
33:22
Speaker 1: it helps me saying a place of love and stay happy.
33:25
Speaker 1: So all of that transfers to the food, right, And
33:28
Speaker 1: so when you when you talk about music, you know,
33:31
Speaker 1: and because the music is emotion and the food and
33:35
Speaker 1: everybody know, food emose emotion. Good foods, you know, makes
33:38
Speaker 1: you smile, make you talk, make you make you just
33:41
Speaker 1: want to share good stories. And some people say good
33:44
Speaker 1: food make them go to sleep if they eat too
33:45
Speaker 1: much of it. What type of music do you do?
33:49
Speaker 1: You feel kind of like um equates to your brand
33:52
Speaker 1: of vote of the culinary works that you deliver, as
33:56
Speaker 1: far as desserts, as far as as far as meals,
33:58
Speaker 1: as far as andre that you delivered to the general public. Um.
34:05
Speaker 1: I most always listen to some gospel before okay, okay, okay.
34:11
Speaker 1: I usually always pray and it's a gospel song at
34:15
Speaker 1: some point before you, uh, the food, before the gets
34:19
Speaker 1: to you. Well, you know, I think it's because you know,
34:21
Speaker 1: we're supposed to pray before we break bread. Anyway, so
34:24
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting a double blessing with your meals.
34:26
Speaker 1: You you got the spirit. Then you're going in the
34:28
Speaker 1: kitchen with the spirit, and then when you serve the meal,
34:31
Speaker 1: we pray again. We got double dose of the of
34:34
Speaker 1: the large blessing on top of this meal. Is that
34:38
Speaker 1: is that? Is that a particular reason why you've chosen
34:41
Speaker 1: this direction of because you seem like a person based
34:44
Speaker 1: on your resume, they could do a lot of things.
34:46
Speaker 1: Because you talked about nursing school, why did they eventually
34:49
Speaker 1: become Natasha? Why became food? The direction being in the kitchen?
34:54
Speaker 1: What what what clicked for you that makes you say
34:57
Speaker 1: this is why I'm the most comfortable. This is where
35:00
Speaker 1: I feel my dreams should be built out of. Yeah,
35:05
Speaker 1: so um, I had started two journeys. I had the
35:10
Speaker 1: journey of nursing school and it was something that I
35:14
Speaker 1: always wanted, you know, as a new single mom. The
35:18
Speaker 1: job security was just there. It's like, you know, get
35:21
Speaker 1: that nursing degree. And while I pursued nursing school, I
35:24
Speaker 1: also started cooking and it's selling plates. And as you
35:29
Speaker 1: take a step, you know, God's gonna basically He's gonna
35:33
Speaker 1: order your steps. So as you take a step out
35:35
Speaker 1: in space, not knowing, hey, what's gonna click nursing school
35:40
Speaker 1: died out and I kicked out of nursing school, and
35:43
Speaker 1: I literally was like, Okay, God, if cooking is what
35:46
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do, then you're gonna open up this
35:49
Speaker 1: door for me, and it's gonna work. And literally, the
35:52
Speaker 1: moment that I got kicked out of nursing school, cooking
35:56
Speaker 1: just it was. Cooking was already building. But once nursing
35:59
Speaker 1: school was no longer an option, cooking took off. I
36:02
Speaker 1: began traveling every single month. Um this month April is
36:07
Speaker 1: my first time that I'm like, hey, I'm gonna sit
36:10
Speaker 1: down in April, guys, I'll see you back in May.
36:13
Speaker 1: I'll be traveling again in Bade. But as a traveling chef.
36:17
Speaker 1: UM April is right now is my first time I'm like, hey,
36:20
Speaker 1: I'm not traveling this month now because you you you
36:24
Speaker 1: used to work, get you got kicked out of nursing school.
36:27
Speaker 1: I'm just reasoning from your bio, how do you get
36:30
Speaker 1: kicked out of nursing school? Natasha be Oh my goodness,
36:34
Speaker 1: because nursing is about following directions. So you bake. Yeah,
36:40
Speaker 1: so you know when it comes to bacon, there's a
36:42
Speaker 1: certain time that you have to make sure wet together
36:45
Speaker 1: and make sure drive together. It's the same thing with nursing.
36:47
Speaker 1: You really have following directions. And for me, it's not
36:51
Speaker 1: about knowing the right thing. It's about the rules. And
36:56
Speaker 1: you know, um so I didn't call the rules on
36:59
Speaker 1: their stay the first day. You know, I'm like, hey,
37:03
Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to do. I'm helping my patient. Well,
37:07
Speaker 1: the nurse, my my charge nurse, she's like, I need
37:10
Speaker 1: you to step out my patients laying in the bed
37:13
Speaker 1: like she was the best nurst. I But it's not
37:18
Speaker 1: about being the best in doing what you know it's
37:21
Speaker 1: the right thing. It's about following the rules. And also
37:25
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, my steps are ordered
37:28
Speaker 1: kicked on on the first day, right right right, right,
37:32
Speaker 1: right right right. But like I said, you know, my
37:35
Speaker 1: degrees in mathematics, gotta do in mathematics. I'm not doing
37:38
Speaker 1: anything related to mathematics other than counting money because I
37:41
Speaker 1: don't even do my own taxes. Okay, because I'm fearful
37:44
Speaker 1: of doing my taxes. That's how you know. That's my
37:48
Speaker 1: my my my numbers amount to my degree. Very smart dude,
37:52
Speaker 1: got a degree. It's on the wall. I can brag
37:54
Speaker 1: about it. So when you said nurse it wasn't you.
37:57
Speaker 1: That's a good thing because you did get so down
37:59
Speaker 1: for fall down the line. It frustrated you from seeing
38:02
Speaker 1: what you really were capable of, what your destination should be.
38:05
Speaker 1: Why did you choose nursing? So, like you said earlier,
38:09
Speaker 1: nursing was just felt like it was a a place
38:11
Speaker 1: where you get a valued education, a secure job for
38:15
Speaker 1: you and your family. Was that the reason that did
38:18
Speaker 1: someone else tell you girl you should go there? And
38:21
Speaker 1: you were following their lead? Um, it's a little bit
38:25
Speaker 1: of both. You know. I tried nursing school back in
38:29
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and then I got married and
38:32
Speaker 1: moved away and that so it just burned down. And
38:35
Speaker 1: then the divorced it was like, hey, what are you
38:37
Speaker 1: gonna do now? It's like, remember you had the passion
38:40
Speaker 1: caring for people, you're so loving, you're so smart, Just
38:44
Speaker 1: go back to school. And it really helped me get
38:47
Speaker 1: back on track. So I don't just credit any of
38:51
Speaker 1: the time that I spent, you know, pursuing that degree,
38:54
Speaker 1: because it kind of helped me refocus and become disciplined again.
38:57
Speaker 1: And um, it gave me something to do after the divorce.
39:01
Speaker 1: You know a purpose again, right, which which is really well,
39:06
Speaker 1: let's go to the others because you said, Richard, you
39:08
Speaker 1: know I didn't want to follow the rules. Now are
39:11
Speaker 1: you a self taught chef? Did you go to culinary school?
39:16
Speaker 1: So I am a self taught chef. I have no
39:19
Speaker 1: official culinary training. I am just a foodie foodie. Okay,
39:25
Speaker 1: see that, I'm self taught. But you so you are
39:29
Speaker 1: a different level though, So you are you're doing some things.
39:33
Speaker 1: I look at your I look at your your your Instagram,
39:36
Speaker 1: I look at your pictures, a video. I go, okay,
39:39
Speaker 1: she is this? This is some natural gifts? What? Okay?
39:44
Speaker 1: Let me use me as an example. Why are you
39:46
Speaker 1: so different from me as a self taught person? Because
39:49
Speaker 1: you know, all your all your final presentations looked so polished,
39:54
Speaker 1: so elegant, all users person that looks in the magazine
39:58
Speaker 1: or looks in a book, and you able to replicate that. Look,
40:01
Speaker 1: how are you able to do that? Natasha? Be um?
40:06
Speaker 1: I want to call it like it's it's a little
40:08
Speaker 1: bit of an obsession. So I um, I love presentation,
40:16
Speaker 1: you know, going a little bit back to the nursing,
40:20
Speaker 1: being a nurse and just going through that school and
40:22
Speaker 1: knowing when you look at food, like your brain and
40:26
Speaker 1: your body, it already figures out how it's gonna digest it.
40:30
Speaker 1: So you start eating your food before you start eating
40:32
Speaker 1: your food. So for me, as a way of like, okay,
40:36
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be a chef, if I'm gonna sell
40:38
Speaker 1: my food, I want people to look at my food.
40:41
Speaker 1: I want to look at my food and and and
40:44
Speaker 1: want to eat it before I smell it or taste
40:47
Speaker 1: it or anything. So that really separates me. I know
40:51
Speaker 1: when I first got started, a lot of chefs they
40:54
Speaker 1: were using like aluminium pants, and you think there's really
40:59
Speaker 1: there's no new food. So how do I separate myself
41:02
Speaker 1: from the next shop. It's like, okay, my presentation and
41:05
Speaker 1: my service, So I make sure whenever I present my
41:09
Speaker 1: food to you that it is in the best way
41:15
Speaker 1: food to you, outstanding, there's no doubt about it. That's
41:18
Speaker 1: why I asked you had you any formal training, because
41:22
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like and that's an ultimate compliment
41:24
Speaker 1: to your natural skills. Now, but thank you. Now, the
41:29
Speaker 1: brand that you go under is Underground Seafood. Now, yes,
41:35
Speaker 1: underground always seems to me like, you know, you you
41:38
Speaker 1: working to undercover. People don't know about you. You just
41:41
Speaker 1: blaze in this reputation, but you underground and and once
41:45
Speaker 1: people find out about you, they're just blown away. That's
41:47
Speaker 1: when I hear the word underground. Now, obviously there's a
41:51
Speaker 1: term that you put together underground and seafood. Tell us
41:54
Speaker 1: about the brand underground seafood. Okay, um, you really just
42:00
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. When I got divorced,
42:04
Speaker 1: my confidence dropped. It just did you know I'm literally
42:08
Speaker 1: rebuilding myself and I know that with food. It's like
42:13
Speaker 1: even though I'm still being shy and you're still embarrassed,
42:17
Speaker 1: and you're still like, I don't want people to really
42:19
Speaker 1: know about me, but you're like, I want you to
42:21
Speaker 1: eat this good food. Though, So I wanted to stay underground.
42:26
Speaker 1: I wanted to stay low key, fly under the radar.
42:29
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I have this food, you know, just you know,
42:35
Speaker 1: playing small um, and that's how I got my name.
42:40
Speaker 1: And it didn't stay small at all. As soon as
42:44
Speaker 1: people found out that I had fried king crab legs
42:47
Speaker 1: and fried lobster. You know, words spread fast, but it's
42:52
Speaker 1: spread even that. It kind of spread underground because I
42:55
Speaker 1: would still tell people. It's like hey, they would ask me,
42:58
Speaker 1: can I share your menu? And I'll be like, okay,
43:01
Speaker 1: you can share here, but don't see here. So I
43:04
Speaker 1: try to stay low key. I tried to stay low key. Okay,
43:08
Speaker 1: now you try to stay low key? Now see that?
43:12
Speaker 1: See that that word try. You know, I think on
43:14
Speaker 1: on social media videos don't trying to figure out how
43:19
Speaker 1: the word try and social media they don't go together.
43:23
Speaker 1: You posting videos that go fire on the Tosha be,
43:26
Speaker 1: how are you trying to be low key? You know
43:30
Speaker 1: it's a mental thing, mental thing, a mental thing. Huh.
43:35
Speaker 1: I'm looking at they videos going I should wish my
43:38
Speaker 1: video could go viral. So when you first, when you first,
43:45
Speaker 1: you know, I'm inspired by you first of all, the
43:47
Speaker 1: Trisha Be because because I think that when I created
43:50
Speaker 1: this platform, Money Made Conversation Masterclass, it was designed for
43:54
Speaker 1: people to show that everybody's journey is different and it
43:58
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be quote unquote the proceved path
44:02
Speaker 1: and the perceived path is that you know, you go
44:05
Speaker 1: to school and and then you get this job and
44:08
Speaker 1: and then wail and there are no flaws to that path.
44:13
Speaker 1: To me, the everyday person. Path is a path filled
44:15
Speaker 1: with flaws. And I always tell people your kids not
44:18
Speaker 1: to make the same mistake at least twice. Don't make
44:21
Speaker 1: it twice. Okay, you can make it one time. Making
44:23
Speaker 1: it twice you borderline. Just don't give a hoop. But
44:27
Speaker 1: in your case, you know you know. It all started
44:31
Speaker 1: selling plates. Now, when I go to here in the
44:34
Speaker 1: words selling plates, I go back to my church days,
44:38
Speaker 1: I go back to my fraternity days in college where
44:40
Speaker 1: we're just selling plates to to to raise money, just
44:44
Speaker 1: a little bit of money. And it wasn't a lot
44:45
Speaker 1: of money, but because I'm time, it was more work
44:48
Speaker 1: making the plates and the money you got out the plates. Okay,
44:51
Speaker 1: so let's talk about hot all started to the evolution
44:56
Speaker 1: where the month of April you ever take time off
44:58
Speaker 1: for yourself in and back and made you back in
45:00
Speaker 1: the ground, Mother's day back in the ground. So just
45:04
Speaker 1: talk about that early start, because like you said, when
45:07
Speaker 1: you got your divorce, you lost all your confidence. You
45:10
Speaker 1: you you were insecure, you didn't have any direction. You're
45:13
Speaker 1: just reaching out. You reach You reached out to nursing school.
45:16
Speaker 1: That wasn't the direction. And so when did that whole
45:20
Speaker 1: I'm a count on me. I don't depend on me.
45:23
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down being me. Um. So just you know,
45:30
Speaker 1: just a little background. I during the divorce, I found
45:34
Speaker 1: that cooking was such a passion for me and it
45:39
Speaker 1: brought me so much joy. So really, um, I started
45:43
Speaker 1: selling place because I annoyed my whole family. They're like,
45:46
Speaker 1: you're cooking lobster again, like you know, like kid crab again.
45:51
Speaker 1: Can we get something else? So I had offered it
45:53
Speaker 1: up on social media, Hey does anyone to want to
45:56
Speaker 1: buy plates from me? And when a but I think
46:01
Speaker 1: I sold ten plates and those ten people literally told
46:07
Speaker 1: probably another set. Okay, okay, Natasha, you sold templates where
46:14
Speaker 1: I sold ten plates out of my parents home. So
46:17
Speaker 1: people drove up to your parents home and got the food. Yes, yes,
46:23
Speaker 1: they came and got it. They came and it was
46:27
Speaker 1: like a little little plastic plate and you know you
46:29
Speaker 1: put a little a little moon fall on top or
46:31
Speaker 1: plastic spoons, and I, um, you know, I'm kind of
46:35
Speaker 1: heavy handed with my portion sizes. So they got yeah,
46:40
Speaker 1: And I did this red snapper, so fried the fish
46:44
Speaker 1: pole with the onions pepper celantra. I have the special
46:48
Speaker 1: sauce that I use mac and cheese, which is now
46:51
Speaker 1: smack and cheese and some stir fried cabbage. And it
46:55
Speaker 1: was so good that they literally told all of their friends,
46:58
Speaker 1: like at least ten. Everybody told another set of ten people.
47:02
Speaker 1: And the next week they asked me to do the
47:04
Speaker 1: same thing, and it just continued to grow every single time,
47:09
Speaker 1: every single time. We'll be right back with more Money
47:12
Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to
47:20
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. So, who was
47:26
Speaker 1: ready to kick you out of the house first? Okay?
47:29
Speaker 1: You know you turn their house into a into a
47:33
Speaker 1: a stop and go okay, eat the go uh, get it,
47:37
Speaker 1: get it wild hot go okay people. Did you have
47:40
Speaker 1: a like our window thinking only come intending to or
47:45
Speaker 1: for the six What were the rules did you put
47:47
Speaker 1: in place for this food business? Did you set up
47:50
Speaker 1: at your at your parents home? So it was something like, Hey,
47:56
Speaker 1: it was maybe like a four hour window because we're
47:59
Speaker 1: starting small, so it's like a four hour window. Hey,
48:02
Speaker 1: between these hours you can come get your plate. So
48:06
Speaker 1: now look, if I do it now, everyone has an
48:10
Speaker 1: exact time. I don't do the one though, anymore because
48:14
Speaker 1: then everyone one time and you know, um, I have
48:17
Speaker 1: you have an exact time that you can pick up now,
48:20
Speaker 1: like you come at one fifteen with maybe three other
48:23
Speaker 1: people who are allowed to come at one fifteen, and
48:24
Speaker 1: you guys can get a plate. I've never heard this
48:28
Speaker 1: story before, and this is so original to me and
48:31
Speaker 1: such a story filled with blessing and also support because
48:35
Speaker 1: you have to have support for that to happen. And
48:38
Speaker 1: so then then people coming and there's trust there too,
48:41
Speaker 1: because you know, people come in your house. You know
48:44
Speaker 1: that looks looks kind of like okay, she in a house, Okay,
48:47
Speaker 1: is it right? Coming out there? Right? And then but
48:51
Speaker 1: they then they told other people, so that I mean
48:53
Speaker 1: that they had to convince these people you need to
48:55
Speaker 1: try this. I know this sounds crazy, she's over there
48:58
Speaker 1: cooking out up my house, but this it's worth going
49:02
Speaker 1: over there. So at what point did you realize you
49:04
Speaker 1: had something special in your talent? The underground seafood brand,
49:09
Speaker 1: the chef Natasha b at the time Natasha Billups was building. Um,
49:16
Speaker 1: I think when I started, when I fried came crab,
49:22
Speaker 1: it was good. I told my mom was like, that's it.
49:26
Speaker 1: A millionaire She's like, okay, you may fire hunt it out,
49:29
Speaker 1: like we are you talking about? And it was like
49:32
Speaker 1: this is it. It's like I know, only bad time hundred.
49:35
Speaker 1: But I'm like, mom, I'm a millionaire. I'm a millionaire.
49:37
Speaker 1: And then I would you know. I got to a
49:40
Speaker 1: month where the income was a thousand, and it's like, Mom,
49:43
Speaker 1: I told you, look, I'm a millionaire. Like I got it,
49:47
Speaker 1: Like I don't know when I'm gonna get it, but
49:49
Speaker 1: I got it. You get to two thousand and you like,
49:52
Speaker 1: I do you hear what I'm saying? Like I could
49:54
Speaker 1: keep flipping this thing. I got something. Yeah, so once
50:00
Speaker 1: it once I did King Crab, you know that was
50:03
Speaker 1: it for me. But the King Crab wasn't what caused
50:06
Speaker 1: me to go viral. Like I'm known in Maryland for
50:10
Speaker 1: doing fried King Crab legs. But I have this thing.
50:13
Speaker 1: Once I started doing private dinners, I'm always thinking about
50:17
Speaker 1: how I can make this dinner better? And I would
50:20
Speaker 1: do these fruit displays and I would always look at it,
50:24
Speaker 1: this fruit display is beautiful. How can I make this better?
50:27
Speaker 1: So I started doing watermelon fruit displays and I would
50:30
Speaker 1: do them for free, just over deliver every time. I
50:34
Speaker 1: go on a client's home, and that's what actually caused
50:36
Speaker 1: me to go viral. Um And I like to tell
50:41
Speaker 1: this story because it's like, hey, no one was asking
50:44
Speaker 1: me for a watermelon display when I did it. My
50:46
Speaker 1: clients weren't paying before it. I literally just figured out
50:50
Speaker 1: how to over deliver, and it's what's caused me to
50:53
Speaker 1: go viral. It caused me to get even more clients,
50:56
Speaker 1: so now I can charge for it. Now. There's two
51:00
Speaker 1: things you're hearing this conversation. First of all, when she
51:02
Speaker 1: says she was selling the plates, she kind of over
51:05
Speaker 1: delivered on the food, which means that you know, our
51:09
Speaker 1: black people they like getting extra You know, if you
51:11
Speaker 1: go to any restaurant, black people will take a dog
51:13
Speaker 1: get bag out of a restaurant. They I don't care
51:17
Speaker 1: if it's fries, it's rise, that's a win. That's a
51:20
Speaker 1: win right there. So she knew that. So then when
51:23
Speaker 1: she started on these caterings catering opportunities, she realized that,
51:27
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do these free watermelon decorations and
51:32
Speaker 1: they wouldn't asking for But it also made her brand
51:36
Speaker 1: bigger and more thoughtful, and people saw extra value and
51:41
Speaker 1: they supported her. More so as a young entrepreneur. These
51:44
Speaker 1: is just natural talent that you picked up on as
51:48
Speaker 1: a marketer. Correct, m h yes, I'm always thinking about
51:54
Speaker 1: you know, what does this look like? Now? You you
51:57
Speaker 1: work for a lot of different people, so there you're
51:58
Speaker 1: working with comedians. I'm a former comedian. So what funny
52:03
Speaker 1: people have you worked with in this business that have
52:06
Speaker 1: eaten your fantastic food and made you do I guess,
52:10
Speaker 1: I guess once you can say the your celebrity chef,
52:13
Speaker 1: you really are, and because you're a celebrity chef, you're
52:16
Speaker 1: able to start naming your ticket. You travel a lot.
52:20
Speaker 1: What's the next step in the type of guests that
52:22
Speaker 1: you have? As far as I know, this beyond comedians,
52:25
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurs, their corporations, they're all types of people. But
52:29
Speaker 1: what's the goal. But first, let me already just know
52:31
Speaker 1: some of the working comedians you've been you've been uh
52:34
Speaker 1: you know feeding lately eating. My favorite footy comedian is
52:40
Speaker 1: Timothy Shropshire in Charlotte, North Carolina. Um he put me
52:45
Speaker 1: in contact with uh Dasi Banks, so I got to
52:49
Speaker 1: cook for Jasi Banks. Um. I always have followed DC
52:54
Speaker 1: Irvin on social media. I saw him when he was
52:57
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and I'm telling him like, hey, get cheese
53:00
Speaker 1: snacks from here, but when you ever, whenever you come
53:03
Speaker 1: to Maryland, I have to cook for you. So it
53:05
Speaker 1: just so happened kind of around this time last year
53:08
Speaker 1: he was in Maryland and I reached out to him again.
53:10
Speaker 1: So I got to cook for DC Urban and Marlon
53:13
Speaker 1: made so like as far as some of my favorite
53:16
Speaker 1: comedians them, and then I have my social media comedian,
53:20
Speaker 1: um Curran Claiborne. I just cooked from him in Baltimore
53:26
Speaker 1: and he's hilarious, hilarious. So yeah, those are my favorite.
53:32
Speaker 1: You know, the beauty of what you do. I'm just
53:35
Speaker 1: gonna ask this question, and um, what about the food specialty?
53:39
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, I love hamburgers, I love
53:42
Speaker 1: pizza's pizza and uh and so anything that looks like
53:47
Speaker 1: a piece of fried chicken. I mean, okay, why seafood?
53:50
Speaker 1: Why why why why why did that become your food specialty? Seafood? Oh?
53:55
Speaker 1: Because I it's two things. Personally, I of seafood. So
54:02
Speaker 1: really I could be a Pestytarian because I can eat fish,
54:06
Speaker 1: you know, shrimp, I can eat that every day of
54:09
Speaker 1: the week. So that for me is a passion. And
54:11
Speaker 1: then I also look around me to see just to
54:16
Speaker 1: know the climate of what everybody else is doing. Everyone
54:19
Speaker 1: is doing the hot honey wings and you know the
54:23
Speaker 1: Jamaicans they got the ox tails. The Africans they got
54:26
Speaker 1: the food food and the peanuts food. You know, so
54:28
Speaker 1: it's like, what can I do to stand out? That's
54:32
Speaker 1: also a passion of mine. And seafood is definitely it
54:36
Speaker 1: like one, I'm in Maryland, so Maylanders we love seafood.
54:41
Speaker 1: So if I can present amazing quality seafood and I
54:45
Speaker 1: can hone in on that, then when you think about seafood,
54:48
Speaker 1: you think about fried king crab legs, fried lobster, You're
54:51
Speaker 1: gonna think of me, right. You know. The beauty of
54:55
Speaker 1: this interview is that I see a person who, Um,
54:59
Speaker 1: It's about empowerment. It's about being able to look in
55:03
Speaker 1: the mirror and see a lot of strength. At one
55:06
Speaker 1: point you may have not seen that strength, but you
55:09
Speaker 1: see it now and I'm sure you willing to share
55:11
Speaker 1: that strength, especially with women who may feel like you,
55:14
Speaker 1: especially single moms who may feel they don't understand where
55:18
Speaker 1: they can go with their lives. Talk about that discovering
55:21
Speaker 1: that self empowered with within yourself and how do you
55:24
Speaker 1: share it outside of the world of cooking. Um. Just
55:29
Speaker 1: cooking became a source of empowerment for me because it
55:32
Speaker 1: gave me control over my life again, it increased my
55:37
Speaker 1: finances and increase myself esteem. UM. And then I found
55:42
Speaker 1: that people, through my pain and what I've been through,
55:46
Speaker 1: people begin to look at me as like a source
55:48
Speaker 1: of inspiration. And I never want you just to look
55:52
Speaker 1: at me and think, oh, that was so great for Natasha.
55:55
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I did that for Natasha. But like you,
55:59
Speaker 1: you know, my situation is it's so common. It's so
56:04
Speaker 1: common to so many people. So many people have gone
56:07
Speaker 1: through what I've gone through. So I don't want you
56:08
Speaker 1: to look at me and just think, oh, inspiration. But
56:11
Speaker 1: I would love for you to take my story and
56:15
Speaker 1: to be empowered as well. I would love to help
56:17
Speaker 1: you as well. I have so many other chefs that
56:21
Speaker 1: have culinary training, they've graduated, they already have working, um
56:26
Speaker 1: successful catering businesses, and they've reached out to me and
56:30
Speaker 1: asked me to be their mentor. And it's like, wow,
56:35
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at you like you have something
56:37
Speaker 1: that teach me and you went to school, you know,
56:40
Speaker 1: but they're still even with college training, they're still looking
56:43
Speaker 1: for that empowerment and that mentorship. So I'm actually working
56:48
Speaker 1: on a mentorship program now that will be available later
56:52
Speaker 1: this year, and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna take
56:55
Speaker 1: other people and we're gonna empower them, especially women and
56:59
Speaker 1: especial helping um children and teens. If they want to
57:03
Speaker 1: get into cooking, I want them to know that, like,
57:05
Speaker 1: you can do this as well, you can do this
57:08
Speaker 1: as well. Well, you're you're an inspiration. I'm very happy
57:12
Speaker 1: I got the interview to today on Money Main Conversation Masterclass.
57:15
Speaker 1: You know, her brand is Underground Seafood. Believe me, the
57:19
Speaker 1: word underground is just a just a phrase now because
57:22
Speaker 1: she's not underground no moment. She's very much above ground.
57:25
Speaker 1: And she's out there doing the thing on social media.
57:28
Speaker 1: She's traveling in this country. And and when you get
57:30
Speaker 1: that that that conference together, please come back so we
57:33
Speaker 1: can talk about that. And we're we're focused on that
57:36
Speaker 1: part of your life, which I think it's going to
57:37
Speaker 1: become a major part of the blessing that you're gonna
57:41
Speaker 1: be sharing with people. Right now, you're sharing your blessings
57:43
Speaker 1: stroggl in that kitchen. But I think your your next
57:46
Speaker 1: journey is going to be outside the kitchen, but using
57:48
Speaker 1: the strength that you gained through seafood and the color
57:52
Speaker 1: of the world that you were not trained in. That
57:55
Speaker 1: God just gave you that talent to you and you
57:57
Speaker 1: stuck with it in you. You took a a person
58:00
Speaker 1: who didn't believe there was a future that she could shape,
58:04
Speaker 1: but you're shaping in my friend. So Natasha be Chef
58:07
Speaker 1: Natasha B. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
58:12
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58:15
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58:21
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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to lead with your gifts.
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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a presentation of thirty fifteen
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Speaker 1: Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan
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Speaker 1: McDonald for money Making Conversation masterclass with your Daily Minute
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Speaker 1: of Inspiration. This week, I sat down with financial motivator
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Speaker 1: and founder of mind Right Money Management Ash Cash. He
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Speaker 1: talks about the importance of not letting your pass and
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Speaker 1: how people view you determine your future. Um. I have
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Speaker 1: a bunch of my friends who are dead or in
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Speaker 1: jail because they were they too had the similar background,
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Speaker 1: but instead of you know, taking their destiny in their
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Speaker 1: own hands, they listen, you know. And and so for me,
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons why I wanted to
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Speaker 1: write this book was because, um, there's somebody right now
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Speaker 1: who's going through something right who you know, who thinks
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Speaker 1: they're not worthy. Someone who looks at me and says,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, look at this guy's got This guy
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Speaker 1: like this is the guy who's doing all this false
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Speaker 1: and stuff. I believe I could do it, and so
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Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons why I decided that
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Speaker 1: it was time to tell the story. If you want
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Speaker 1: to listen to this full interview with Ash Cash is
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