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Bow to the Goddess: Dawna Lee Heising's Hollywood Odyssey · Cinema Yūgen

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G'day. That's right, it's that time again. Time for Cinema Yugen good.
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Yes welcome back cinema you're going to a town built on legends.
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She became one from over
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255 feature films to
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900 plus film festival awards
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Dawna Lee Hasing isn't just Hollywood
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royalty she is a cinematic force of nature a 540 time best actress winner living
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legend award honoree action star martial artist and VP of Mustard Seed Media
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Group, Dornut Blends, Brains, Beauty,
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and the brute screen power with an MBA from Pepperdine and fists trained in Tang Soo Do.
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Sharing the screen with Eddie Griffith, Tom Arnold, Daniel Baldwin,
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and more in a legacy link to Silence of the Lambs legendary cinematographer
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Tack Fujimoto, this is the goddess of Hollywood Unleashed.
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This episode mandatory listing and
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now ladies and gentlemen of cinema yugen please
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bow down bow your heads to her majesty here she is at a hundred degrees the
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living legend the goddess of hollywood miss dawna lee hay sing welcome to cinema yugen dawna.
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Well, thank you. It's an honor to be here. It is an honor for us to have you.
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I was just like looking at your website.
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Everyone can check out everything that Dawna has done, doing.
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Everything she's got going, all the information you could want at dawnaleehasingofficial.com.
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I was just looking at some of the awards and we were talking before we started recording,
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you're a legend in hollywood and you've won the
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living legend award like there's
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so many awards do you have like a separate house
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to keep all of your awards oh no i've been
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very very blessed and very very honored to to win these awards it it means a
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lot to me and i'm grateful for every single one it's in absolutely incredible
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the list just goes on and on and on and on and on I'm like someone who doesn't
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really know what they're talking about.
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But it is, look, I'm not a gambling man, but if there was a line on this in
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Vegas, I'm willing to bet you have stories.
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We could probably do a podcast episode every day for the next year,
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and we probably couldn't get through all of the stories that you have from your
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storied historic career. Would I be wrong in saying that?
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Oh, no, I've been doing this quite a long time. So I do have a lot of stories,
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depending on what you want to talk about. We could probably write a biography.
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We'll have enough for a really good book, you think.
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Well, hopefully, you know, we'll do a script together.
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That'd be awesome. So listen, Donna, I was looking through all of your credits
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and look, we'll be here for days talking to,
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if we tried to talk about them all, but I just noticed there's a movie in here
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that is really close to the warm heart of my heart and that's My Science Project.
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Can you tell us what you remember about being in My Science Project?
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Well, actually, that was obviously in the early stages of my career,
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and I have a really small part in it.
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When I first started in the business, I did small parts in huge films.
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Right, sure, sure. So obviously, my science project is a huge film. Yeah.
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I remember I worked for numerous days on it, but I'm on screen for like a second,
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you know, playing a ghost. Right, right, right.
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But I had a great time. In those days,
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there were only the three television stations, and then I was in a lot of huge
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films, like I said, in small parts.
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But the sets were incredible, like Blade Runner or My Science Project.
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It was amazing because
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i was on set for
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new you know just for the small part for numerous days
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and it was it was really really
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exciting yeah incredible i
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can look i can only imagine we see we look at photos and we watch behind the
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scenes material but i can only imagine what it must have been like to stand
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on the blade runner set for argument's sake it's it must have been Was it as
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awe-inspiring as the photos and all the stuff that we've seen make out,
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or was it a completely different experience?
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No, it was completely awe-inspiring. Like my science project, it had an elaborate set,
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you know, and I played a ghost, but there were a bunch of, you know,
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a bunch of people who were around playing these different things like ghosts
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that disappear and all of that stuff. So that was exciting.
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I remember the set of Blade Runner the most because I worked on that for at least.
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Three weeks or a month they built a
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whole chinatown set at the
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studio and we worked nights and
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there was smoke going through and i mean
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it was a whole city that was built and so
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there were a million people there and that was
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that was just incredible and that was one of the first things
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that i did wow wow i
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remember being on set the day that
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daryl hannah stunt double did the
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you know the back oh right yeah yeah the back
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i mean you know just seeing the backwards flip was
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incredible but then doing this set it
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was just amazing i mean it was unbelievable
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being there really i felt so lucky wow and
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that's where you started that's where
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i started that's when you started right okay i kind
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of went like this it's like you know okay dawn what movie did you start off
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when you came oh blade runner you know it's a little movie you might have heard
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yeah 80s thing you know it was science fiction no one watches science fiction
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do they but yeah science fiction as you know.
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Yeah, well, it's absolutely incredible.
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Incredible. I just, the word incredible, when I think about you and I think
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about everything you've done, the word incredible just keeps popping into my
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head like a frog across a lily pad. It's, um.
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Well, in those days, I had dark hair, and so I was on every single television
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series that was like MacGyver or Bring Them Back Alive.
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But Magnum P.I. as well? Yeah, Magnum P.I.
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I played a snake dancer in that, but in the others, this was television,
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but I played a lot of prostitutes.
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You know, because they always had the Asian prostitutes and,
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you know, hanging around and, and, you know, doing things with the leads.
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So I did a lot of that and that was incredible too.
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Yeah. So you got to meet all the big names like Tom Selleck and,
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and all the, well, now to you with Tom, I didn't, I never met him.
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I got hired for this because they filmed in Hawaii, and snakes are out loud in Hawaii.
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We filmed snakes, so they have to do it here.
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And so I am a dancer, actually.
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And so I filmed with a snake, and the trainer was right off camera.
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And I did this whole dance with this huge snake, and I was really excited.
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I mean, you'll hear me say this so many times, but I thought that was my ticket to the big time.
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Okay, right. I mean, I thought that was going to make my career.
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I was really excited about it because it was a whole long dance with a snake.
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And then when I saw the show, I ended up being this huge billboard behind Magnum.
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He's sitting on the curb and I'm on this building.
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Oh, okay, wow. so my dance was cut but I mean.
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I stayed in it the girl stays in the picture yeah but it wasn't my dance and
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I wanted my dance to be in it well that was something you put all the effort
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into isn't it odd it's odd that,
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that seems to be a trend throughout an actor's
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life as you think that oh yeah this will
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be the role this will be the thing that will rocket me
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right up to the top of the mountain and you put all the heart and the effort
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in and it either gets cut or it gets changed or they you know or it just you
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know that's happened well you know we talked about my past and and they were
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really exciting huge films, and I had small parts in them.
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I did think that being Cleo the Snake Dancer was going to set my career on fire,
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but then I ended up with a poster.
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Then I went back and I got my MBA. I was the vice president of marketing and
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technology companies for a while.
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Then I came back and I started from the bottom.
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Things had completely changed when i came back
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there are all these indie films and you
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know the digital cameras anybody could be a filmmaker
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so i wanted to be on set as
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much as i could so i took everything when i was starting out again and i've
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been really really fortunate in maybe the last five years to have been involved
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in some really big projects that I'm proud of and,
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And I thought they were going to make my career.
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Right, right. And I think something just happened, you know?
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It's like with Bad President, with Eddie Griffin. Yes.
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I'm not one of the stars. It starred Eddie Griffin and Jeff Rector.
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But it's a great film. The director was Perum Gill.
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And I play one of Eddie's minions named Shame.
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And no, I'm Misery. And I got it through my great friend, Robert Amico.
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It's like he just called me up and he said, you know, I have a film with Eddie
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Griffin. And I'm going, oh my God, yeah, of course.
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So Robert played Shame, I played Misery, and Justin Shankarow,
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who's the one of Golden Globe, he was the voice of Arnold.
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I get them mixed up. I think it's Arnold in Hey Arnold.
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Anyway, he was one of the stars, the voiceover star, and he was a star in Picket Fences.
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So anyway, all three of us were Eddie's minions, and it was just a fantastic shoot.
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And the film is so funny. I hope that everyone will check it out.
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And we premiered at the Kong Film Festival. Wow.
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Stormy Daniels is in it, and Eddie is just fantastic. It was such—I think it was a two-week shoot.
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It was such a pleasure filming with him, and he's so talented.
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And he took the whole cast and crew to his show in Las Vegas.
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Awesome. It was fun filming. Yeah. But the movie—,
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if I don't say so myself, it's incredible. It's so hilarious,
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and it's built on facts even though Eddie plays the devil.
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The script was written by a journalist, and it followed Trump's first—the first
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time he ran for president.
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So there's some things, you know, it's obviously been—the The devil's been at it. Right.
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They took fat from what happened.
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So it's really what happened. Wow.
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And as I said, it premiered at the Cannes Film Festival. But then COVID hit.
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It was supposed to go into AMC theaters.
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And it was supposed to be this huge film.
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And then, you know, once COVID hit, it's like there are no more films in theaters.
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You know, it just, it just kind of, I don't want to say died,
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but it didn't do what we all expected it to do.
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Right, right. It didn't get any momentum.
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Yeah, COVID lasted like two years. And so, but I do have to say it's coming
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back now. Awesome. It's like.
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I did this interview, like, I don't do very many interviews.
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You're like my second one in five years.
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I'm tremendously honored. But I did one at Damascus, like, a month ago,
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and he found that Bad President is top-zone streaming now. Oh, okay, wow.
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Yeah, so it's making a resurgence, so I'm really happy about that. It's great.
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Yeah, it's fantastic. It's always great to hear
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there were so many films that were derailed if you
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will because of covid so their releases have been staggered
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and films that were made you know three or
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four years ago are finally getting a chance to
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be appreciated because they were swept under the rug by you know all and sundry
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and it was yeah a sad strange time thank goodness hopefully we don't touch wood
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we don't have to get again you know yeah no i don't knock On wood, as they say.
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Yeah, and it was really a great film. I mean, it would, well,
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it's becoming a hit again, you know, thank goodness.
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And Parham saw that it's number one on streaming, so I saw a post that he made
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that there might be a bad president too. Wow.
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This is all speculation, but if there is, I hope that he brings me and Robert
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and, you know, Justin back. I
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mean, cause I would, I would just love to do that. That would be awesome.
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You spoke about, uh, when you re-entered the fray, the independent scene has
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definitely with the help of, of technology becoming so freewheeling.
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Do you agree that the, that independent cinema is, is on the verge of a revolution
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right now because of the easy access to technology and all those sorts of things?
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Well, when I came back, there was easy access, and this was like 10 years ago,
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because once they had the digital cameras, really, anybody could make a film.
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And so I started out doing films with people who are like eighth grade teachers.
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I mean, it's like when you go to
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the—I belong to Actor's Access and all of those. And this is 10 years ago.
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So there is something where they did casting in person.
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I forget the name of it because it's not, it doesn't exist anymore.
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But, you know, you don't, when you're trying out with these things,
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you don't really know the background of everybody.
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You just want to get the part. Right. Sure. Sure.
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And in those days I was desperate to get the part. Right.
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Yeah. So you're just, you're just focused on getting the role like so much about
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whether they were, whether they, whether they were fueled purely by passion
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or, or, or, you know, saddled experience was a different story.
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Yeah. You don't really know. And like, this is when I first came back after
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being in the technology section. So sure.
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I really didn't know anything about the industry. And so I'm lucky that I met a lot of great people.
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Jared Masters was a young filmmaker who put me in all of his films, and he was great.
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Dustin Forkerson put me in a lot of his films, and he was great.
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And so I did work with a lot of really good people.
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But that's because they kept using me when they found out that I could act.
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Because I have studied acting for years, you know, from the time. I mean.
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Yeah, I mean, you're no joke. Not only do you have the industry experience,
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but you can do Shakespeare and martial arts.
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Well, yeah, I started doing martial arts for filming, you know,
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because I wanted to do action films.
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There's a movie idea for you, Kung Fu Shakespeare. There you go.
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Well, that would be good. There you go. You can play like an action version of Juliet.
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Okay. All right.
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Well, you know, about five years ago, it became really important to me.
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I started thinking about my legacy, you know, which is why I was so honored
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to win the Living Legend Award, but I wanted to do good films.
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I really wanted to be remembered as a good actress Because when you've been
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in this field for so long, you know, and it's like, I think if you've seen my resume,
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I was in like over a hundred pageants.
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And I was really lucky to have placed or won all of them because you get really
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good once you start. I'm obviously very obsessive.
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So, you know, it's like I was very successful. Not at all.
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Yes. You know, after a while...
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It's the work that matters. I started studying at South Coast Rep with Matthew
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Arkin, who is Ellen Arkin's son.
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I've taken lessons my whole life. I started with Stanislavski.
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Then at South Coast Rep, it's playhouse. It's the number one playhouse on the West Coast.
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I learned the Uta Hagen method. And I had to learn, like, I learned Cat on a
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Hot Tin Roof by Tennessee Williams.
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I did Macbeth. I did Lady Macbeth's monologue.
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And Carol Foreman helped me a lot with that. She's a Shakespeare teacher.
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But I started wanting to just, I mean, it's like, as you get older, you don't care about,
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the outside stuff anymore. I love awards, obviously, because I keep submitting
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my films, but I'm not a really social person.
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To me, it's always been the work. It's been the education, the work, all of that stuff.
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That's when I started doing Shakespeare.
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I'm really lucky to who have started working with Craig and Rena,
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and you know who they are.
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Yeah, Craig's the one. Craig Rills, yeah, Craig is, well, you interviewed Craig,
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so you know him. Craig is an American Airlines pilot.
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His uncle is Steve Rillsback. Yeah. And he lives a few streets over from me in Huntington Beach.
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Okay. And then my best friend is Dr.
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Rena Walsinger, and I met her years ago. I took her class at Golden West College,
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which is down the street.
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I took a Final Cut Pro class with her.
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And she lives just one street over.
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So, I mean, she just became my best friend. She is amazing.
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I mean, she's done so many things that, I mean, she puts me to shame.
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That's a tall order. That's a tall order, Donna.
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But she developed some device for the heart. Well, I mean, you know,
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I mean, she's, and now she teaches AI. Wow.
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And she's on the Grammy board. Wow. I mean, she's so humble.
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You wouldn't know all of this stuff. Yeah, yeah.
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I'm so lucky to be working with Craig and Rina. Oh. Because.
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Yeah, the job was an incredible little job.
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Oh, thank you so much, and thank you for your great review on it,
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and thank you for interviewing Craig, because Craig deserves so much credit
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for everything for my career.
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It's like he's done, every time I have to learn something hard,
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like he's done a film of My Lady Macbeth monologue, he did a film of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
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We did a film a few years ago called Down and Out in Vampire Hills,
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and that's a horror comedy.
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And it turned out really good, but it was a short film, and it won tons of awards,
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and we're really proud of it. And it was written by Dr.
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Heather Joseph Witham, and she is Rena's sister.
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And she is currently, I had to write it out there, write it so I could remember.
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But she's currently the History Channel on a show called The Truth Is Out There.
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Wow. She's a teacher, but she teaches mythology, and she's a vampire expert.
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So she wrote the script to Down and Out in Vampire Hills, and she got the story idea for the job.
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But Craig wrote the script. Wow. Incredible.
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There's that what again incredible we have our own film company here and we've
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done short films so far which can't get distribution so our plan is to do a feature film.
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But for that, I mean, you know how much work goes into that.
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Oh, yeah, yes. We're going to have to raise money for it, you know,
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because I've been really lucky that I have a lot of friends and they'll come
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and work for me or work with me, you know.
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And it's like we all live in Huntington Beach, so we have all these sets.
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And so we could make our short films on a low budget.
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Sure. But we want our featured film to, you know, obviously get picked up and
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distributed and be good.
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So we're going to need a budget for that.
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We're going to need a script, you know.
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Well, I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy. Yeah, I know.
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Yeah. So, since we've done a lot of sci-fi and vampire, I think that's probably
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what we want to go with. That's awesome.
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There's nothing wrong with sci-fi and vampires, or better still, both together.
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Yeah, no, so, I mean, it's right up your alley. Yeah.
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Dawna, you don't have to sell me. I'm on board with anything you want to do.
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It'll just be my task to commit it to the finest screenplay ever offered an
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actress such as yourself.
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Well, you know, Craig, you know, so, and Craig is a perfectionist.
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I mean, it's like any, anything that he's going to film is going to be great.
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It was we filmed my lady mcbeth monologue
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over in the hills and there was like
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fog rolling in i mean it was in it
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was an incredible background i'm going craig do you really want me to go over
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there in public and do this lady mcbeth monologue you know because people were
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it's a there's a park around it right people were walking around and stuff and
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he goes oh yeah i think it'll be good.
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So, I mean, the film,
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It was really great. His idea was great. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, look, if you were doing Shakespeare in the Park, I'd stop to watch.
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I'd throw down a blanket and sit there and watch the whole thing.
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Well, you know, that would be so hard, though, to do a complete Shakespeare.
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Oh, sure. I'm doing right now, or next Friday, actually, I'm doing something
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called Shakespeare on the Rocks. Okay.
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It's at the American Legion, the Hollywood American Legion post.
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And I have friends who are veterans who are there and they were doing this Shakespeare thing.
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And Lejeune, Lejeune from the job. Okay, cool.
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So is it on stage or is this a film? Is this on stage?
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It's going to be on stage. On stage, okay. Yeah, so I was supposed to be doing
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a film with Gregory Hattonaka in December and it got postponed.
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So Lejean told me about this Shakespeare thing, and I thought,
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oh, you know, I want to be a part of that.
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And I was hoping I could do my Macbeth, you know, because since I already memorized it. Yeah, yeah.
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But I got a sonnet 23.
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Okay, wow. It has been one of the hardest things in the world.
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I mean, sonnets are like poems.
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You know, they're not like a play.
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Like with Macbeth, there's all this drama built in, and you know the story and
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all of that. But this sonnet.
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Just a bunch of words, and so it's like a different language.
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You have to memorize all of these words, and then you have to put visualization into each line.
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I started this three weeks ago, and it has taken all of my time to get this sonnet right.
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But this wonderful lady named Nancy, who is an English teacher,
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She helped me this week, helped me with the visualization, and I finally have it right.
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Yeah. I think that's the key to Shakespeare. Well, certainly learning Shakespeare
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is, because you can chew on the words, but back when I crept the boards in my youth.
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The key i found to learning shakespeare was to
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simply to translate what he was
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what his meaning was in in the text
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yeah when you break when you break it down
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when you take the the flowery nature of the
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text away and just go well he means this right yeah
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so it's very easy to learn dialogue as long as you have the
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the mental the meaning of of
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what you're saying because sometimes it's like you
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say speaking a different language you don't really
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understand what that particular enunciation
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of the words but if you understand the meaning it's
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very easy to learn those lines and then to deliver them because you know what
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you're really saying even though you're not saying it that way you know yeah
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you know it's like i i believe in education and so it's like i did all my homework
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on this, I knew what he was talking about,
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but it was still hard.
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Oh, no doubt. Because the lines...
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In Macbeth, it was just straightforward. But in the sonnet, the lines are just different.
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So you have to do a different, with me anyway, I had to do a different visualization for each phrase.
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And so Nancy helped me a lot with that.
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I mean, one of my visualizations is a shark. Because I'm scared of the sharks.
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And people have been having all these shark attacks, unfortunately,
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you know, so, so anyway, that's taken all my time, but I do,
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I have something that I want to tell you that I can't really talk about. I get it.
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I got contacted this week by a casting director on backstage,
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and she contacted me for this amazing project.
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And I can't talk about it because, you know, But it's amazing.
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It's an amazing project.
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But, you know, this, I'm hoping that this will be my big break. Oh, okay.
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I don't want to, I don't want to. I know what you're saying.
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You're saying that all these years later, it wasn't Blade Runner, it's this, right?
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I hope so. But, you know, it's like, I mean, I just read the script is absolutely amazing.
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Wow. You know, and the people involved are amazing.
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Wow. The type of people that you dream about. Like, you know,
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my uncle is Tak Fujimoto. Yeah.
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Okay. We're talking in that territory where we're getting up into the high.
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Yes, well, the casting director is amazing.
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So anyway, I can't talk about it, but I'm really excited.
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Yeah, so like I said, you know, I never... Hang on, we wait with eager anticipation now.
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I mean, it's like waiting for Moses to come back down with the Ten Commandments.
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Yeah, I'm just hoping everything goes according to plan. Yes,
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the movie gods smile upon everything, and it all sort of just falls together nice.
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Yes, yes. So, I mean, I'm so excited about that.
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I've told you before, and it's another thing I can't really verify,
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but I may be going to South Korea in May because a new studio is being set up.
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I'm involved with this studio that is setting up a new division based in Korea.
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Anyway, it's going to be a family thing. So I may get to go and represent Hollywood there.
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I'm so excited because I think I told you, do you know who BTS is?
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They're a south korean boy band
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but they're like they've taken over the world they're coming
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back for their world tour wow and the youngest
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there are seven members the youngest member is named
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jungkook and so i do a lot of music videos and two years ago maybe three years
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ago uh the casting director johnny buckley contacted me and said he needed someone
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who could cry so so it was you know it's all this big secret on music videos.
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If they're big people, they never tell you who the star is. You know, they just show up.
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So it was Universal Studios, and I showed up, and I was in the last scene of
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Jungkook's music video, Seven.
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What? And it's gotten like 50 million views now.
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I'm in the last scene with the casket with Lotto.
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Okay. okay and at the you
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know it's like i'm not really i do a lot of music
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videos but i'm not really a music person so at the time i didn't know who lotto
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was and i didn't know who joan cook was either myself you know so after i saw
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the video i became like bts's biggest fan you know but it's too late.
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I never approached stars.
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I'm very shy, and I know they don't want to be approached on the set.
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I would have been really excited at seeing them if I had known who they were. Yeah.
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But now, I'm a BTS fan, so I'm really excited about this South Korea trip,
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and I hope it happens. That's awesome.
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That's incredible. There's that word again, Dawna, incredible.
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And I thank you for being our guest here on Cinema Yugen.
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Oh, well, thank you so much for inviting me. And thank you for being so kind.
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And thank you for such a great review of our film, The Job. Well, I look forward to it.
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I look forward to everything you've got cooking, everything you've got coming.
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And anything, look, anything you want to do is fine by me.
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Yeah, well, I mean, we're friends now, so, you know, we're obviously going to keep in touch.
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Has been oh thank you thank you
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very much again dawn oh thank you bye everyone
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