Latest / The Lila Rose Show / E111: How Gen Z Gives Us Hope w/ Isabel Brown
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- 0:00I just kept hearing over the last five years or so this
- 0:03constant droning on from people older than myself that Gen.
- 0:07Z is destroying America. They call us lazy, entitled,
- 0:11uneducated, apathetic. As millennials were charting
- 0:13away from traditional values, Gen.
- 0:15Z is running back towards them, sprinting as fast as we can.
- 0:18We've already proven ourselves to be the most conservative
- 0:21generation that America has seen since World War 293% of Gen.
- 0:25Z, for example, still wants to get married in a time that we
- 0:28have the lowest marriage rate in American history.
- 0:30What I'm seeing more than anything else is a revival for
- 0:33belief in something bigger than the emptiness of this world.
- 0:40Hello guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose Podcast.
- 0:43Today we're going to be talking about some of the upsetting and
- 0:47also encouraging trends happening among younger
- 0:50generations. There is a lot of research out
- 0:52there that indicates that Gen. Z, that younger millennials are
- 0:56actually more atheistic or that they're more identifying as
- 0:59LGBT, that they're getting married less.
- 1:02A lot of troubling social data that you might have heard about
- 1:04on the news, quite frankly. The reality is, when you deep
- 1:07dive some of these studies and you actually look into some of
- 1:09the data, there's some really encouraging trends, truly a
- 1:12backlash that is happening among younger generations against the
- 1:16prevailing narratives of postmodernism and the sexual
- 1:18revolution. We're going to have on a special
- 1:20guest, Isabel Brown, who's a rising content creator.
- 1:23And I'll just a lovely person all around who has a book out
- 1:25where she deep dives this research and provides her very
- 1:28hopeful but realistic take on where Gen.
- 1:31Z really is today. So you're going to love this
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- 4:27Isabel Brown. Welcome to the podcast.
- 4:29Thank you so much for having me, Lila.
- 4:30I'm so excited to be here. I'm always excited when your
- 4:32content pops up in my feed because it's always encouraging,
- 4:36interesting, it's always entertaining and you're just
- 4:39crushing it with all of your content.
- 4:41So congratulations and congratulations on your new
- 4:43book. Thank you so much.
- 4:44It's definitely been a whirlwind year.
- 4:46I have absolutely no idea how we've been able to reach so many
- 4:49people this year. But truly all blessings from God
- 4:52and I see such a huge movement within our generation for
- 4:54goodness and truth right now. I love that.
- 4:57That's awesome. So first of all, give me a
- 4:59little bit about your background, how you got into
- 5:02content creation and why you're so, I mean your values.
- 5:06Conservative, of course, is a term we use a lot, politically
- 5:09speaking, but your values are very true.
- 5:12I mean, they're goodness, truth, beauty.
- 5:13It's you're you're Catholic, You're passionate about your
- 5:16faith. How did that all develop for
- 5:18you? Well, truthfully, if you had
- 5:19asked me a few years ago if I'd be sitting here having this
- 5:21conversation, I would have thought you were crazy.
- 5:24I never had any anticipation of working in media or content
- 5:28creation, certainly in the volatile world of politics.
- 5:31But really, I've always just been obsessed with the pursuit
- 5:34of truth, and that's what led me to pursue my degree in
- 5:37biomedical sciences. I wanted to continue pursuing
- 5:40truth while helping other people and ideally pursue a career as a
- 5:43surgeon. So a surgeon.
- 5:45That was the dream. So attending my home states,
- 5:47University of Colorado State, I found myself in classes like
- 5:51anatomy and Physiology and organic chemistry.
- 5:54And instead of pursuing objective truth, which is really
- 5:57what science, especially in academia, is supposed to be all
- 6:00about, we were arguing with our professors about their political
- 6:03opinions or listening to why some evil orange white
- 6:06supremacist guy had just gotten elected to the presidency of the
- 6:09United States. I'll never forget in eukaryotic
- 6:13cellular biology about the least controversial class you could
- 6:16possibly imagine on a multiple choice exam.
- 6:19The wrong answer choice for the origins of the universe was that
- 6:23God created the universe. Instead, you had to say that
- 6:26it's spontaneously erupted from a single cell billions of years
- 6:29ago. In Physiology, we spent six
- 6:32months learning about every tiny beautiful miracle that has to
- 6:35happen with fetal development for a child to make it to full
- 6:38term in their pregnancy. And then we're told after the
- 6:41exam conveniently, that abortion is not the ending of a
- 6:44genetically unique human life and that it's a life saving
- 6:47medical procedure we all would likely be forced to participate
- 6:50in as healthcare providers. So we might as well get used to
- 6:53it now. And I just was floored to be
- 6:55honest with you, because I went to a pretty conservative
- 6:58agriculturally based school in Fort Collins, Co, Colorado State
- 7:02University. Not exactly CU Boulder or UC
- 7:05Berkeley or UCLA. And yet we found ourselves in
- 7:08the midst of this insane culture war, right at the time of the
- 7:12rise of Antifa and all of the insane left wing activism from
- 7:162016, 2017 hitting the scene. And I was frustrated because I'm
- 7:20looking around at this sea of three 300 plus students and
- 7:23realizing that nobody was brave enough to raise their hand in
- 7:27class to host a speaker on campus to present a different
- 7:30value or different opinion at a large federally funded public
- 7:33university. And if no one else was going to
- 7:35do that, it was probably going to have to be me.
- 7:38Long story short, and I wrote my first book about this.
- 7:40Actually, with my college experience, I decided to do
- 7:42something about it. I ran for student government.
- 7:45I started a few different organizations on campus to
- 7:47promote political diversity and just different ideological
- 7:50conversations. Yeah, that favorite buzzword
- 7:52that they really don't value on college campuses and found
- 7:55myself really hated because of it got tons and tons of death
- 7:59threats and people threatening to rape me.
- 8:01My address was doxed online because I was encouraging the
- 8:05pursuit of objective truth and freedom of expression at a
- 8:09public university. But even in the midst of all of
- 8:11that darkness, I just totally fell in love with activism,
- 8:15whether it was setting up a rickety folding table in the
- 8:17middle of my college campus or bringing a speaker like Dennis
- 8:20Prager or Candace Owens to come speak.
- 8:23As a student at the time, that was incredible to see.
- 8:25The thousands of people that would come out to those events
- 8:28just so hungry for dialogue and a difference of opinion and an
- 8:31opportunity to challenge their perspectives, that I knew I
- 8:34wanted to do that after I graduated and spend some time
- 8:37where we all spend most of our time as Gen.
- 8:39Ziers in the digital space doing exactly the same thing.
- 8:42So I started my content Creator journey in 2019 after graduation
- 8:46and throughout Graduate School and now a few years post grad
- 8:49have just been so, so blessed to have incredible opportunities
- 8:52beyond anything of my wildest imagination to reach literally
- 8:5510s of millions of people all over the world with that same
- 8:58pursuit of objective truth every single day.
- 9:00That is awesome. And you're you're putting in the
- 9:02work. I mean, I think your consistency
- 9:04and then the excellence of your content, you can you put in the
- 9:06research you're really studying. Thank you.
- 9:08You can see that you're studying what's happening in the world
- 9:10reporting on it. It's great.
- 9:13So but you're at this college and you had the courage to go
- 9:17and start alternative groups that are pushing against the the
- 9:21prevailing narratives. What was, what was it that
- 9:23formed though your world view? How did you become?
- 9:26We talked about the word conservative, but how did you
- 9:28become someone who sees that life begins at fertilization and
- 9:33is precious and deserves protection and it's, you know,
- 9:35stands up for marriage and that believes in the values that you
- 9:39have. Where did that come from?
- 9:40You know, I often get asked if I had some sort of radical
- 9:43conversion of my values. I think we look at this kind of
- 9:46like apologetics in determining your faith.
- 9:48Like everybody has a really cool testimony.
- 9:50If you were this radical atheist and therefore you had to have
- 9:53this crazy conversion that nobody ever saw coming, that's
- 9:56really not my story. And I think that's not the story
- 9:58for most people. Most people who are in this
- 10:01world that we live in were raised with these values, and I
- 10:04think we brushed that off as disappointing or not a very cool
- 10:08story, not clickbait or viral enough.
- 10:10It's beautiful, it's amazing. So I was very fortunate to be
- 10:13raised with my head screwed on straight with two parents who
- 10:16are Catholic lawyers. So we spent a lot of time
- 10:19talking about politics and religion around the family
- 10:22dinner table. But really early on I love
- 10:24telling the story. My parents kind of made a rule
- 10:27in our in our family house growing up that there was no
- 10:29such thing as a kids table. We were expected at every family
- 10:33dinner at every holiday, if we went out to dinner with family
- 10:35friends to engage in the same conversation that the adults
- 10:38were having to know what was going on in the world by the
- 10:40time we got to high school, that looked like forcing us to join
- 10:44the high school competitive speech and debate team, which,
- 10:46let me tell you, was social suicide.
- 10:48Lila, I already had very little friends in high school.
- 10:51You. Should have just been
- 10:52homeschooled. Literally.
- 10:53At the time completed them for we.
- 10:55Laugh about that now. At the time, my dad said, you
- 10:57know, they really were able to convince parents of our
- 10:59generation that we were too stupid to educate our kids, so
- 11:01that wasn't even a a viable option.
- 11:03So they love seeing homeschooling on the rise now,
- 11:06but high school speech and debate was such a catalyst for
- 11:08me in forming my own values. Because even though it was nerdy
- 11:12and weird and you wear a suit in the high school cafeteria for 14
- 11:15hours every Saturday, instead of hanging out with your friends,
- 11:18you're forced to look at the world and the biggest problems
- 11:20going on in the world from a 360° perspective.
- 11:24Because you don't know until you go in the room which side you're
- 11:26going to have to defend with research and evidence and
- 11:29sources to back it up. So it really forces an
- 11:32examination of your own conscience.
- 11:33What do I think about XYZ? What what am I really holding to
- 11:38be my personal values on freedom of expression or controversial
- 11:41political issues like abortion or freedom of religion or any of
- 11:45these things that we spend so much time hearing about on the
- 11:47news? But I think our generation has
- 11:49been strategically taught not to think about from a personal
- 11:52perspective because it is so divisive and controversial and
- 11:55we don't really know how to articulate our values.
- 11:58So I love that my parents encouraged that force, but we we
- 12:01laugh about it now because it's been so great, because they
- 12:04always told us, like, you don't have to have the exact same
- 12:06values that we do as your mom and dad.
- 12:07But you do need to do the research yourself and figure out
- 12:10exactly what the truth is and how you can learn how to defend
- 12:13that in our world. Good for them.
- 12:15What's great people? What great parents?
- 12:17And I'm a huge fan of speech and debate.
- 12:20We did that growing up and oh. It's great.
- 12:22I love it. That's my biggest recommendation
- 12:24for everyone. Yeah.
- 12:25And if you want to, if you want to do content creation or
- 12:28speaking or media or anything like that, public policy, it's
- 12:31such a great way to prep in high school or, oh, absolutely,
- 12:34college, whatever it is. OK, so you just wrote this book
- 12:37on Gen. Z ERS and it's the end of the
- 12:40alphabet. You have it right here.
- 12:41And I want to unpack Gen. Z because there's all kinds of
- 12:45troubling some, some encouraging stuff, but a lot of troubling
- 12:50stuff to trends that are on the rise.
- 12:52I'm in all kinds of these meetings with, like, NGO
- 12:55nonprofit leaders talking about the state of America.
- 12:58And, you know, typically speaking over the years, I've
- 13:00heard people say America is on the decline.
- 13:03You know, civilizations rise and fall.
- 13:05We're on the fall part. It's going to hell in a
- 13:08handbasket. And woe is us.
- 13:10But fight the good fight anyway. And I I don't like, I know that
- 13:13you share this. That's not what I believe for
- 13:16this country. I think that there's a beautiful
- 13:18future better than our past for this country.
- 13:20I know you believe that too. So let's start with let's start
- 13:23with just the layout of Gen. Z.
- 13:24What does Gen. Z?
- 13:26What are the ages of Gen. Z?
- 13:28First of all, Because I know it can kind of shift.
- 13:30How do you see it? And then what are the current
- 13:32kind of political beliefs broken down?
- 13:33Let's start by sex. By gender.
- 13:35Of Jazee Love this and 1st. I just want to say the reason I
- 13:38wrote this book was stemming from that same frustration that
- 13:40you had, because I've been a bit of a token voice for my
- 13:43generation in the media and politics.
- 13:46I've worked on several campaigns in the last several years,
- 13:48worked at the White House and the US Senate, and every time I
- 13:51showed up for a hit with Fox News or Newsmax or did a print
- 13:55or radio interview, I just kept hearing over the last five years
- 13:59or so, this constant droning on from people older than myself,
- 14:03that Gen. Z is destroying America, that
- 14:06our generation is no. Millennials, there is a lot of
- 14:08destruction with us. Millennials, So I'm glad you're
- 14:10self aware. I take responsibility fully.
- 14:15Good Most millennials don't want to.
- 14:16But they they attribute a lot of those same attributes of
- 14:19Millennials to Gen. Z, even though we're
- 14:21dramatically different generations.
- 14:23They call us lazy, entitled, uneducated, apathetic, stupid.
- 14:27Called us that too though is I think that's like a thing by the
- 14:30way. Of course, where the older
- 14:31generation just like dishes it and then they usually are the
- 14:35ones that served it though. Correct.
- 14:36Yeah, we write about that quite, quite a length in the book, but
- 14:39that just wasn't what I was seeing.
- 14:40It certainly wasn't what I saw on my own college campus and the
- 14:43activism I did there. It's not what I'm saying with
- 14:45the 10s of millions of Gen. Zers I'm interacting with online
- 14:48or on campus with high school and college students every day.
- 14:51And so I knew that wasn't reality, but nobody was really
- 14:54telling the truth about our generation and how dramatically
- 14:57different we are from the perception, largely from the
- 15:00political right, about our generation being promoted in the
- 15:03media and in politics. So when we're talking about
- 15:05Generation Z, what we're talking about is a group of people
- 15:08that's about 70 million people across the country, most experts
- 15:11agree, born in 1997, the year I was born, all the way down
- 15:15through 2012. So we're talking about 12 to 13
- 15:18year olds all the way up from high school to college to 27
- 15:21years old, which which is what I'm turning next month.
- 15:23So. You are the wisest of them.
- 15:25All I am what they call the geriatric Gen.
- 15:27Zers, those born in the 1900s. We can almost claim you, Isabel,
- 15:33as a millennial. It's a better direction.
- 15:35To go I mean. But you're looking at this group
- 15:38of people that certainly isn't a monolith and mostly are still
- 15:41teenagers. They haven't yet voted.
- 15:44They're still determining their own values.
- 15:46They're growing up in this really confusing time.
- 15:48They're not overwhelmingly socialist leftists the way most
- 15:51people are trying to get you to believe that they are.
- 15:54I really separate this analysis based on both cultural values
- 15:57and politics in the book, because it was the late, great
- 16:00Andrew Breitbart that's famous for saying politics is
- 16:02downstream from culture, that if you want to change what's
- 16:04happening in the Oval Office, in the halls of Congress, you have
- 16:07to first start by changing how people live their day-to-day
- 16:10lives. And I think that is really what
- 16:12we're seeing more than anything else with Gen.
- 16:13Z right now. It's this tsunami of a cultural
- 16:16backlash, somewhat of a metaphorical middle finger to
- 16:20this silver platter that the authoritarian left is presenting
- 16:23to us as the most wonderful utopian, authoritarian society
- 16:27the world has ever seen. And they act like that's really
- 16:30good for us. But we're looking around and
- 16:32we're realizing that we're miserable and we're struggling
- 16:35economically. We're struggling in our personal
- 16:37lives. We don't really have intimate
- 16:39relationships anymore to the same degree that we even just
- 16:42had 20-30 years ago in America. We're not eating real food.
- 16:45We've been encouraged to abandon faith in something bigger than
- 16:48ourselves, and I really invoke imagery from Stranger Things and
- 16:51how I normally talk about this, But we've realized we're living
- 16:54in the Upside Down. It looks really familiar to an
- 16:57America that we binge watch when we watch Friends for the
- 16:59zillionth time from the 1990s and early 2000s.
- 17:02It looks kind of similar to the world our parents tell us
- 17:04stories about from their teenage years or their college years or
- 17:07early 20s. But but there's something
- 17:09fundamentally inverted and wrong about that.
- 17:12Up is down. There is no distinguish
- 17:14distinguishable difference between good and evil.
- 17:16Men are women and women are men. And we've lived in this so topsy
- 17:20turvy, confusing, upside down society for so long that the
- 17:23most radically countercultural thing, rebellious thing one can
- 17:27do, which is exactly what every young generation wants to do, is
- 17:30rebel against those who came before them, is to right the
- 17:33ship, to seek something bigger than ourselves, to believe in
- 17:36objective truth and reality again, to confront our gender
- 17:39ideology problems in society and say, you know, men and women are
- 17:42different, to eat real food, to believe in God, to get married.
- 17:46And so on that cultural front, that is exactly what we're
- 17:49doing. And we've already proven
- 17:50ourselves to be the most conservative generation with
- 17:53lifestyle and cultural issues that America has seen since
- 17:56World War 2. Tell me more about that.
- 17:58What's the percentages there? I could talk about this for like
- 18:01literally 12 hours, so I'll try to gloss a little bit like
- 18:03overcome, but. Like if you compare Gen.
- 18:06Z at the age Gen. Z is now to millennials at the
- 18:09age they would have been when they were Gen.
- 18:10Z's age. What's the difference in
- 18:12political breakdown? Yeah, So let's, let's talk about
- 18:14each of those subjects that I just casually mentioned from a
- 18:17cultural perspective, and then we'll jump into politics. 93% of
- 18:20Gen. Z, for example, still wants to
- 18:22get married in a time that we have The lowest marriage rate in
- 18:24American history since we began recording that in 1867.
- 18:28Is that? Different though than what Gen.
- 18:29Z wanted when they were the same.
- 18:31Yeah, it is. It's dramatically different.
- 18:33In fact, it's kind of the inverse of all of that.
- 18:35As millennials were charting away from traditional values,
- 18:38Gen. Z is running back towards them,
- 18:39sprinting as fast as we can. We're realizing, unlike
- 18:42millennials who largely pursued liberal arts degrees, that we
- 18:46don't need to pursue a leftist arts degree, as I would call it
- 18:49appropriately today in something like underwater African LGBTQ
- 18:53plus basket weaving to get a job after we graduate.
- 18:56Instead, 62% of us have already started our own businesses to
- 18:59become CEO on day one of our careers.
- 19:03Women across the political spectrum are throwing away our
- 19:06hormonal birth control, which was incredibly normal to be
- 19:09prescribed to millennials as an entire generation, but
- 19:12especially to us as teenagers, because we're realizing that we
- 19:15don't want to keep taking slow release poison that's putting
- 19:18our physical health at risk and destroying our mental health,
- 19:21largely contributing to the suicide epidemic you're seeing
- 19:23with teenage girls today. So much so by the way, that, as
- 19:26I'm sure you know, the Washington Post had an absolute
- 19:29freak out aneurysm just a few days ago, blaming this exodus
- 19:33from the birth control industry on right wing influencer
- 19:36propaganda on the Internet instead of just the actual side
- 19:39effects on the box. So.
- 19:40So if we did, like, let's do there's.
- 19:42I know there's so many different aspects to this, but I'm
- 19:45curious, let's maybe do the politics and religion pieces
- 19:48kind of. Those are very tied to bigger
- 19:49picture worldview stuff. So for politics, I've seen
- 19:53research that shows that Gen. Z is leaning left, especially
- 19:57Gen. Z Women are leaning left.
- 19:59There's a little uptick in Gen. Z men who are going right, but
- 20:02it's not like, very significant. How do you see that?
- 20:06Politically, we have no reason to have anything but hope for
- 20:09Gen. Z.
- 20:09And I think a lot of that stems from what we were just talking
- 20:11about, those cultural decisions that are very conservative, even
- 20:15though we wouldn't necessarily label them as such.
- 20:17But maybe even more importantly, because of our shift in
- 20:19religious attitudes and values that drives more political
- 20:22engagement than anything we've ever seen in American history,
- 20:25we have easily arrived at the most godless, atheistic time in
- 20:29American history. I think that's a no brainer and
- 20:31everybody can. See, but do you think that like
- 20:33research that I'm referring to and I could, I mean we could try
- 20:35to pull up like an actual study on it, but do you think they're
- 20:38missing the, they're missing the that's the true story of what's
- 20:41happening that. Somewhat well.
- 20:42The Gen. Z ers may be reporting that
- 20:44they're, you know, far left on, let's say L GB.
- 20:47TI mean there's like 1/3 of I think Gen.
- 20:49Z women who identify as SPY as an example, right?
- 20:53They're saying that, but you're saying maybe the trends, if
- 20:56you'd look deeper into the research shows that they're
- 20:58actually practicing more conservative, traditional
- 21:01things, even though they're labeling themselves a different
- 21:04way. Would you say that's kind of the
- 21:05breakdown and? And I think those studies are
- 21:07are somewhat skewed. So what do I mean by that?
- 21:09Let's just look at religion. By the end of 2021, our
- 21:12generation said that we overwhelmingly did not believe
- 21:15in God. There was less than 25% of us
- 21:17that did Gen. Z, Gen.
- 21:18Z, we were trending in a more atheistic direction.
- 21:21But by the end of 2023, just two years later, over a third of our
- 21:24generation now says we believe in God, we're regularly
- 21:27attending religious services. If you look at denominational
- 21:30breakdown in the Catholic Church, Gen.
- 21:32Z is the most likely demographic to prefer and seek out the
- 21:35traditional Latin Mass. So talk about the biggest
- 21:38cultural backlash You. Possibly.
- 21:40Could That's crazy. So you're saying in a span of
- 21:41two years it went from 1/4 who said that they were atheist?
- 21:451/4 Who said they believed in anything bigger than ourselves?
- 21:48We. Did we only only 1/4 believed in
- 21:50something bigger? So that's three quarters are?
- 21:54Atheist. Yeah, that's.
- 21:55That's crazy. That's intense, 'cause you look
- 21:57back decades and you're talking like 10% of the population
- 21:59maybe, Yeah, at large. If I I mean, it's in that zone,
- 22:03in that area. And now you're saying it's a
- 22:04third. So that number has gone up.
- 22:06What is that? Let's do our you.
- 22:08You're here. This here the this hard.
- 22:10Times background. Not my favorite thing in the
- 22:12world, but. You know, 7-8 percent have gone
- 22:14up, has gone up seven, 8% in just two years.
- 22:16Which is millions of people, if you really, I mean, that's crazy
- 22:19just to think about. And so that's also manifesting
- 22:21politically. What do I mean by that?
- 22:23If you look at 17 year old boys today, seniors in high school, a
- 22:27recent study just came out that found they are the most
- 22:29politically conservative with a capital C than they have been in
- 22:3350 years. Well over 70% of 17 year old
- 22:36boys in America today are politically very right wing,
- 22:40which is insane. No one saw that coming in any
- 22:43way, shape or form, especially as we've attacked masculinity in
- 22:46society for so long. But it's necessitated this
- 22:48renaissance of strong men in society.
- 22:51It's that diagram we always talk about, right?
- 22:53Weak times create strong men. And then the cycle just
- 22:55continues to repeat. Women, you're right, do tend to
- 22:59be trending more to the left right now in most of the polling
- 23:02that we're seeing. But I wonder how much of that is
- 23:05actually representative of our entire generation.
- 23:08Or if they're just capturing current voters rather than the
- 23:12entire spectrum of Gen. Z, most of whom are still
- 23:14teenagers and have yet to vote. That cultural pendulum shift for
- 23:18young women towards marriage, towards neglecting Big Pharma
- 23:21and saying we don't want anything to do with you anymore,
- 23:23towards eating real food, towards religion.
- 23:25These are radically conservative lifestyle choices.
- 23:29That of course, as we know because politics is downstream
- 23:32from culture, is going to impact our political views as well.
- 23:35I think it's just taking a little bit longer to catch up
- 23:37for young women than it is for young men, because that assault
- 23:40on masculinity started so much earlier than today's all out
- 23:43affront on womanhood. I mean, you can't even call
- 23:45yourself a woman today. You're a birthing person, or a
- 23:48person who menstruates, or a chest feeder, which is.
- 23:51Ridiculous like the what you're describing about these high
- 23:54school boys which is incredible that's you're saying 70% of them
- 23:57are actually identifying as conservative or or do they say
- 24:01they're conservative or. They self identify themselves as
- 24:03politically conservative, very conservative.
- 24:06Incredible. And so that is maybe the
- 24:08backlash to the rejection that's been going on for decades now of
- 24:12masculinity. And so there were the new
- 24:13rebellion as well. I want to be who's a good
- 24:15strongman as opposed to I want to be, you know, blue haired.
- 24:19I'm not to say you can't have, you can't ever dye your hair or
- 24:21blue, but I want to be just kind of beta, as they say, beta male
- 24:24or whatever. But for women, you're saying it
- 24:27sounds like your theory, which I like it.
- 24:29It's saying that women, yes, they seem to be far left here.
- 24:32Increasingly, even the trend is not good, even among Gen.
- 24:35Z women. But these things, yo-yo, there's
- 24:39going to be a backlash to that because you go too far one
- 24:42extreme, and all of a sudden people want to reject that,
- 24:45rebel against the extreme that they've been handed.
- 24:47Truly, that's. So you think that's.
- 24:48Going to be the trend in the next few years?
- 24:50Absolutely. And it tracks with all of human
- 24:52history, right? Every group of young people
- 24:54wants to rebel against who came before them, and you can only
- 24:57push so far before people eventually just snap and break.
- 25:01The attack that we're seeing on young women today is unlike
- 25:04anything the world has ever seen.
- 25:05It's certainly more extreme than just calling everything
- 25:07masculine, toxic, and all men are evil.
- 25:09Rah rah, rah go feminism. It's so systemic against young
- 25:14women today that we're literally just erasing womanhood
- 25:17altogether. Our solution to teenage
- 25:19girlhood, for example, is, well, here, take this injection in
- 25:22your arm and we'll schedule you for a surgery.
- 25:24And you just don't even have to be a girl anymore, actually.
- 25:27And who doesn't hate being a teenage girl?
- 25:28Every single one of us hated being a teenage girl.
- 25:31It's terrible. So they're praying on this
- 25:33vulnerable opportunity in young woman's lives to take everything
- 25:36away from you, which obviously impacts your fertility.
- 25:38It impacts your personal and intimate relationships later on
- 25:41in life, your ability to get married and have a family.
- 25:44They're doing everything they can to reach women younger and
- 25:46younger and younger, to just take all of that away from us.
- 25:49And I think what you're seeing with this deleting of our dating
- 25:52apps and Moss as a generation, which we are doing, especially
- 25:55young women with us throwing hormonal birth control in the
- 25:58trash and now saying, you know, I'm really not comfortable with
- 26:01Dylan Mulvaney singing a song about what it's like to be a
- 26:04girl because he doesn't understand that I do, even
- 26:07though I might have said I was supportive of that 5 minutes
- 26:09ago. Something is rubbing me the
- 26:11wrong way about this. You're watching that pendulum
- 26:13shift happen in real time, and I think a beautiful, true
- 26:16acceptance from young women of who we were designed to be.
- 26:19By God, that true affirmation of our real identity doesn't come
- 26:23from gender affirming care or the lies of the abortion
- 26:27industry or Big Pharma. It comes from just simply
- 26:30existing as we were meant to be. It can be hard in our busy days
- 26:34to take time to stop, to meditate, to reflect and to
- 26:37pray. But prayer is so important.
- 26:39Prayer is how we can change our lives and get connected to our
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- 28:43That's everylife.com. There was a we had on Doctor
- 28:47Leonard Sachs who has done this. A bunch of study on the trends
- 28:50among boys, girls. The Collapse of Parenting was
- 28:52one of his more recent books. Fascinating stuff.
- 28:55But he was saying about teen girls when with this number that
- 28:5730% of them and and young very young girls want to be by they
- 29:02don't want to be straight. They want to be queer,
- 29:04questioning lesbian, trans, you know anything basically but
- 29:09heteronormative girl. And he was, he was his theory on
- 29:12that was that the pornification of girls in in general?
- 29:17I mean, you look at the rise of social media and the Internet
- 29:20has been a big driver of that. And so you're going through,
- 29:22like you said, this awkward phase of, for many girls,
- 29:25puberty and just struggling with body image and your body's
- 29:28changing so much. And then you have these hyper
- 29:29sexual messages coming from culture and from boys,
- 29:33unfortunately, who are already addicted to porn because the
- 29:35exposure rate for boys with porn is as young as eight years old
- 29:38on average and there's high addiction rates and you're like,
- 29:41I don't want to do this anymore. Why?
- 29:42Why would I want to be a a girl here?
- 29:45And then you have the rise of this LGBT phenomenon.
- 29:49How how do you see that resolving itself?
- 29:52Because we're in the middle of the bad stuff.
- 29:54You know, it's crazy right now as you know and I know you, you
- 29:57know, interview people who have gone the route of transgender
- 30:01sex, sex change girls and then they regret it later on.
- 30:04So we've seen all of the the change starting to emerge, but
- 30:08the numbers are still looking rough.
- 30:10Yeah, really rough. I think it's so important to
- 30:12say, do we have hope for the future?
- 30:14Yes, and that's what my whole book is about.
- 30:16Of course we should have optimism for the future of our
- 30:18country, but that's not to neglect the work that we have to
- 30:21put in today to keep fighting against evil.
- 30:23Because you're right, We are right in the thick of it.
- 30:25In most of the media interviews that I've done about my book,
- 30:28especially on TV and radio, with older hosts, the number one
- 30:31backlash that I get as well. How can your generation be so
- 30:33overwhelmingly conservative if 30% of them say that they're
- 30:37LGBTQ plus, like if your whole generation is trans, that's
- 30:40pretty leftist, don't you think? What?
- 30:42What's really causing all of that?
- 30:44Those studies in particular are so manipulative because they're
- 30:48leading you to believe that one third of all teenage girls out
- 30:51there are chopping their breasts off or taking testosterone
- 30:53supplements. That's really not indicative of
- 30:55reality. You just mentioned that the the
- 30:57big bulk of the young women self identifying in this community
- 31:00are calling themselves bisexual. Which is interesting because on
- 31:03the trans side of things, most young women are calling
- 31:05themselves non binary. They're not really trying to let
- 31:08go of what their identity is. They're still attracted to the
- 31:11opposite sex. They still have somewhat of an
- 31:13affinity to their biology and to their their biological sex and
- 31:16gender. But the trendy, important way to
- 31:19fit in in society and culture right now is to be a part of the
- 31:22LGBTQ plus community. Every day there is a new
- 31:26identity that gets invented like every 5 minutes to be part of
- 31:29the plus sign at the end of that Q, Plus things like demisexual.
- 31:34I don't know if you've ever heard of demisexual Lila, but to
- 31:37be demisexual means I'm sexually attracted to some people, but
- 31:41not all people, but especially people I have a romantic
- 31:44connection with. So, like, all of us, like every
- 31:47human being, could logically identify as demisexual.
- 31:50And I think Abigail Schreyer really has been such a leading
- 31:53thought voice on this, knowing that this is really a social
- 31:55contagion. It's the new fad for teenage
- 31:57girls to participate in, which is why you're seeing it as this
- 32:00half in, half out thing. Like, I don't really want to be
- 32:02a boy, but I don't really want to be a girl.
- 32:04I don't really want to be lesbian, but I don't really also
- 32:06want to be heterosexual. Like, I just need to fit in, in
- 32:08some capacity, even if that doesn't involve a lifestyle
- 32:10change. And amazingly, psychologically,
- 32:13it's tracking with other social contagions from previous
- 32:15generations what we saw with eating disorders, with older
- 32:19millennials in high school in the late 1990s and early 2000s,
- 32:22what we've seen with suicide clusters in the early 2000.
- 32:25I've heard that the eating because I was looking at this
- 32:27and talking about I think with Doctor Sachs and we've had,
- 32:29we've talked about this on the podcast a lot with eating
- 32:31disorders and with depression, anxiety, suicidality that
- 32:36actually hasn't gone down. This is the part that's so crazy
- 32:40because like you're saying millennials, they had this
- 32:42stuff. I mean it when I was a teenager,
- 32:43we were all, we all had eating disorders.
- 32:45It was it was rough. I mean that.
- 32:46And it was the beginning of like Zynga, Myspace.
- 32:49So there's a social contagion thing was starting to happen
- 32:51with social media then. But today, my understanding is
- 32:54we still have the eating disorders, we still have the
- 32:56anxiety and depression. In fact, the suicidality, as I
- 32:59know you've reported on, has gone up amongst girls, Gen.
- 33:02Z girls, teen girls. And then in addition, you have
- 33:05the trans LBGBTQ plus I, you know, IA, the whole gender
- 33:10identity, sexual identity stuff, and it's just all there.
- 33:13It's just all there. Nothing has sort of gotten
- 33:15better in that mix. It's just all it's all a mess.
- 33:18It's an attack from all all fronts, truly.
- 33:20And that's a really scary reality, especially for older
- 33:22people who think, Oh my gosh, I didn't get involved for so long.
- 33:26I said that would be crazy. Nobody would ever do that.
- 33:28And it did happen. And now I've sat on my hands for
- 33:30too long. What do I do?
- 33:32How do I fight against this? Is there anything tangible that
- 33:34I can protect my kids from? I think our generation is
- 33:36thinking, wow, this sucks. But like, this is the way that
- 33:39it's been for so long. How do we even envision a future
- 33:42that's different from this? And that's why I'm so, so
- 33:45encouraged by the same thing that we've seen with young men,
- 33:48this attack on masculinity necessitating the rise of voices
- 33:51to inspire manhood, like Jordan Peterson.
- 33:54I mean, look how much he's resonating with teenage boys.
- 33:56You're watching that same emergence of soft yet strong
- 33:59female voices encouraging this next generation of young women.
- 34:02I certainly would count you as one of those people, but even
- 34:05from unlikely places. Chloe Cole I just had on my live
- 34:08stream a few days ago, perhaps the most courageous woman of our
- 34:11generation sharing her authentic story of D transitioning.
- 34:15I just had a beautiful young woman named Nala on my live
- 34:18stream last week who everybody is speaking about on the
- 34:21Internet right now because as a top 0.01% only fans creator a
- 34:26few months ago went very viral on the Whatever podcast talking
- 34:29about promiscuity and cheating and how that's really joyful to
- 34:32her life. She was baptized just a few
- 34:34months ago and as of literally a week ago deleted her entire only
- 34:37fans platform making millions of dollars a month, deleted
- 34:41thousands of illicit photos of herself off the Internet, and is
- 34:44leaving all of it behind to chase something bigger than our
- 34:47life. The transformation stories that
- 34:49are happening right now are real and they're so attractive to
- 34:53people, which is why I think they're going viral all over the
- 34:56Internet. Because it's this voice of
- 34:58truth, this voice of goodness and beauty in our really messed
- 35:01up attack on all fronts society, especially for young women, that
- 35:05I have no reason to not believe there will be more of those in
- 35:08the next few years. I mean George Danko was kind of
- 35:10like this rowdy red Pillish you know UFI mean he was into he was
- 35:16not like your Christian stand up no no persona and now he's going
- 35:20around talking about faith and baptism and he's.
- 35:23Already changed his entire platform to literally 10s of
- 35:26millions of people every day just talking about the beauty of
- 35:29his faith. And so it's crazy.
- 35:30Anything else. That's what I'm really
- 35:32encouraged and inspired by. I I wrote my book largely on the
- 35:35political front, but what I'm seeing more than anything else
- 35:38in America right now is a revival for belief in something
- 35:41bigger than the emptiness of this world.
- 35:43We have completely subjective morality.
- 35:46We have all these competing interests going on in the world
- 35:49right now. With my truth being different
- 35:50from your truth, we literally can't distinguish between good
- 35:53and evil anymore. I mean, look how much the
- 35:54abortion industry has thrived not just by covert innuendos and
- 35:58saying, well, it's termination or it's a clump of cells, or
- 36:01it's women's rights. We're doing shout your abortion
- 36:04campaigns. And people on TikTok are holding
- 36:06abortion showers to celebrate the fact that they ended their
- 36:09child's life. They're they're very open and
- 36:11honest about this because evil has been allowed to thrive.
- 36:14But in the midst of all of that, there's been this resurgence of
- 36:18a seeking for God unlike anything anybody could have
- 36:21predicted within our generation with amazing people like Nala or
- 36:25George Danko, who you just mentioned, that are the least
- 36:28likely of places to lead this sort of revolution.
- 36:30But God is absolutely at work within Gen.
- 36:32ZI. I love that and and within
- 36:35millennials too, there are some. And within, I mean like Jordan
- 36:38Peterson's wife just came into the Catholic Church.
- 36:40So you're. Seeing this.
- 36:41Incredible. You're seeing this across
- 36:42generations. I think it's especially powerful
- 36:44when you see it in Gen. Z because you guys are in this
- 36:47incredible muck and mire that is just the exhaust fumes of all of
- 36:51the cultural mistakes post sexual revolution,
- 36:54postmodernism, like all of the stuff that's just like it's just
- 36:57trash. And then you have suicidality
- 36:58rates are at this all time high. What is the what is the result?
- 37:01What is the impact of a whole generation considering not a
- 37:04whole but it's like 1/3 of teenage girls?
- 37:06I think during COVID considering suicide, you're you're desperate
- 37:10for something more, something better.
- 37:12It's not working. Whatever you have and that's the
- 37:15beautiful opportunity that we have.
- 37:16I do want to talk about social media for a minute because
- 37:19social media has been in many ways a negative for Gen.
- 37:24Z, for millennials, for everybody because it's can be so
- 37:27addictive. The comparison thing, they
- 37:29connect it to mental health disorders, all of this stuff.
- 37:34But it also the rise of independent media has made an
- 37:37opportunity for people to find alternate sources of information
- 37:41and truth like never before. What you're doing meets reaching
- 37:43millions of people. People are actually hearing
- 37:45these messages that maybe they would have never heard in their
- 37:48family of origin or in their schools.
- 37:50How do you see the net effect of social media on society and
- 37:54what's the responsible use of it?
- 37:55What do you think is the best use of it for people that want
- 37:58to spread the goodness, truth, beauty message?
- 38:01You know, there's a lot of doom and gloom about social media in
- 38:04the pro-life space, in the politically conservative space.
- 38:07There's kind of this understanding that it's a net
- 38:10negative all the time. We shouldn't use it.
- 38:12We should just abandoned these platforms.
- 38:13We should ban them. There's no opportunity for us to
- 38:16make a tangible difference. And what I hear more than
- 38:18anything is the cards are stacked against us.
- 38:20There's no way for somebody telling the truth to build a
- 38:22following or to make an impact or change somebody's mind,
- 38:25because I'll just immediately. Get banned.
- 38:26I'll make better content. Make better content and be more
- 38:29creative in what you're trying to say.
- 38:30You can to say the exact same thing in a slightly different
- 38:33way, talking around an issue and not have your videos taken down
- 38:36versus a lot of these people that I think frankly are looking
- 38:39to get banned because it's an opportunity to say that the
- 38:42cards are stacked against us and raise money for different.
- 38:44Organizations. It is funny how on the right
- 38:46there is for all the rejection of victim mentality and they
- 38:49blame the left for it. It's like you fired me, you
- 38:52censored me, you did this to me. There is a victim mentality that
- 38:55I think we have on the right sometimes when we are in the
- 38:57most freest position 0. Absolutely.
- 39:00Society then, that we have been, I mean, in almost any time in
- 39:03human history. And the opportunities that we
- 39:04have to share our our message is more than any any opportunity
- 39:10that a previous generation could have possibly have dreamed of.
- 39:12Which isn't to say that censorship doesn't happen.
- 39:14Of course it does. But like this magic device that
- 39:16we all hold around in our pocket every single day for the first
- 39:19time in human history, you as one person without a huge
- 39:23position of political influence, without being born in a nobility
- 39:26family, without having riches and access to everything in the
- 39:29world, you can be more powerful than the president of the United
- 39:32States or entire governments or entire countries or your
- 39:35religious leaders in your community.
- 39:37I mean, look what's happened with somebody like Mr. Beast,
- 39:39right? Arguably the most impactful
- 39:41person on the face of the planet because of YouTube, which is
- 39:44crazy to think about. And I see that.
- 39:47I see the result of digital activism every day, certainly in
- 39:50the work that I'm doing. But look at what you folks have
- 39:52been able to accomplish with live action, Not just in the
- 39:55digital space, but when you show what you've been posting to
- 39:58people with Man on the Street interviews and you change their
- 40:00mind in real time when we get videos like Baby Olivia.
- 40:03Into school curriculum and are able to dramatically transform
- 40:06the education for the next group of people.
- 40:08Jen Alpha, who comes after us social media is nothing if not a
- 40:12tool and it can be used for very, very nefarious bad
- 40:16purposes. We see that highlighted all the
- 40:19time in the clips that are cherry picked for Fox News and
- 40:22just how evil TikTok has become with all the degenerate content
- 40:25that you hear about from your favorite politician.
- 40:27But more than that, I see this being used as a tool for
- 40:30goodness. A tool to escape the matrix of
- 40:34mainstream journalism that's been bought out and paid for by
- 40:37people trying to sell you propaganda, a tool to educate
- 40:40yourself in a time where our education institutions are not
- 40:43about academia, they're about propaganda as well.
- 40:46We still have this opportunity right now at our fingertips to
- 40:50use this for good. With all of the history and the
- 40:53all the information in the history of the universe at our
- 40:55fingertips. If we keep griping and moaning
- 40:58and complaining about it, we'll lose that opportunity very
- 41:00quickly, especially with a lot of these censorship bills and
- 41:03online safety bills in in Western countries like Canada
- 41:06and the UK and even here in the United States with banning
- 41:08certain platforms. But I I think people tend to
- 41:12focus on the negative there because it's flashy.
- 41:15It drives ratings for the mainstream media.
- 41:17Nobody really wants to report on everything's fine or something
- 41:21really good is happening. The truth is, the Internet is
- 41:23still doing incredible things to change people's minds, and I
- 41:26think is directly responsible for this cultural renaissance
- 41:29you're seeing within our generation.
- 41:30And I think it's convenient for people to sort of write it off
- 41:33as not that effective in the end or too hard to do because then
- 41:37you don't have to figure it out and put in the work.
- 41:39And especially if you're not growing up as a native with
- 41:41social media, it can kind of just be like, it's a pain in the
- 41:44butt. I don't want to deal with it.
- 41:45And I know a lot of older millennials and Gen.
- 41:47Xers who are just like TikTok, you know, like, I don't want to
- 41:50deal with it. And it's like, well, if you
- 41:52don't want to deal with it, you know, it's like the man in the
- 41:54arena, you know, the Theodore Roosevelt man in the arena.
- 41:57Are you going to get in and maybe make mistakes, mess up,
- 42:00you know, maybe get called a fool, have to, you know, get
- 42:03pushed down, have to stand up again, It's not easy and it can
- 42:07be very unpleasant sometimes, but it can have this incredible
- 42:10impact. Those boys you mentioned, the
- 42:12teenage boys, are trending significantly conservative.
- 42:16I guarantee you that social media, not their classroom and
- 42:20not their parents, unfortunately is one of the biggest drivers of
- 42:24why they're doing, why they're trending that way.
- 42:26And the pro-life movement too. I think people to neglect the
- 42:30opportunity that social media has to offer in any activism
- 42:33space because it's largely been dominated by people older than
- 42:36us who aren't very familiar with social media, as you just
- 42:38mentioned. But what I'm seeing with
- 42:40pro-life content on the Internet, look at every other
- 42:43cultural institution in America. It is overwhelmingly a pro
- 42:47abortion narrative. Planned Parenthood writes most
- 42:49of the sex Ed curriculum in our classroom.
- 42:52They're hiring the most expensive influencers on the
- 42:54Internet to push a pro abortion perspective.
- 42:57They're working with mega celebrities.
- 42:59They're paying for most politicians campaigns.
- 43:01They're one of the most powerful lobbies in the United States of
- 43:04America. They're infiltrating the church
- 43:06trying to make you believe that scripture supports abortion
- 43:09somehow. And I see clips about that all
- 43:11the time. But if it wasn't for the
- 43:13Internet, there would be no opportunity to have a pro-life
- 43:16message with this next generation.
- 43:18And it's so effective, in fact, that for voters under 45, nine
- 43:22in ten of them support some restrictions on abortion in
- 43:26America, which is a dramatic, dramatic transformation compared
- 43:30to what the Democrat Party is offering you today, saying, you
- 43:33know, we should just do everything through all nine
- 43:34months of pregnancy, you should be able to abort for whatever
- 43:36reason. There's even a Gray area for
- 43:38infanticide here in California or in Colorado, where I grew up.
- 43:42The Anything Goes message from them that would be thriving if
- 43:45we didn't have the pro-life movement on the Internet is
- 43:48being rejected right now by voters under 35, by millennials
- 43:51and Gen. Z alike, because we have access
- 43:53to the truth only on social media.
- 43:56It's so encouraging and it's true.
- 43:58It's that that despite all of those forces that are standing
- 44:02up against the pro-life message and the pro-life movement, it's
- 44:05amazing how many people still identify as pro-life, still want
- 44:08abortion restrictions, still reject that prevailing
- 44:11narrative, and are wanting to increasingly are many of them
- 44:13becoming more pro-life? It's very, very encouraging.
- 44:16OK, before we close that, I want to hear your approach to content
- 44:19creation, because I've been watching you from afar.
- 44:22I see you just crushing it out there, and I think it's a good
- 44:25instruction for anyone listening who's interested in getting in
- 44:28the fray and being like I'm on a joint.
- 44:30I want to join the content creation fight.
- 44:32I know a lot of people are maybe overwhelmed by it and they feel
- 44:35intimidated by it. So what is your approach to
- 44:37content creation, and what have you found to be the most
- 44:40effective things and then the least effective things?
- 44:42I can totally relate to the what on earth am I doing?
- 44:46I have no idea how to film a video or edit something or even
- 44:49hit post, because that was totally me just a few years ago
- 44:52in 2019, and I discovered pretty quickly that there's somewhat of
- 44:56this gatekeeping thing going on in activism on social media.
- 45:00And I don't know why, but a lot of creators feel threatened if
- 45:03there's this whole new group of people that might be taking away
- 45:06from their opportunities. I see it as the exact opposite.
- 45:09Nothing would make me happier than if every single person
- 45:12became a content creator in some capacity, because we need more
- 45:15people speaking the truth on the Internet.
- 45:16Period. Full stop.
- 45:17This is a culture war and we don't say that lightly.
- 45:20And you win with strength in numbers.
- 45:22And I think just seeing the contagious just courage that's
- 45:24been spreading with more college students, with more recent
- 45:27graduates, even high schoolers who are just taking it upon
- 45:30themselves to film a 15 second video talking about what's going
- 45:33on at their school or in their community to say that they're
- 45:35courageously pro-life or they want to get married.
- 45:37These are things that are making a tangible impact on our
- 45:40generation at the large cultural scale.
- 45:43So the truth is, there is no secret sauce.
- 45:46There is no real secret as to how you grow on social.
- 45:49Media, would you say? That there is.
- 45:51I feel like that is, it's like not a sexy secret.
- 45:54It's like be consistent, keep doing it.
- 45:56Try keep trying everyday. Tricks of the trade that I think
- 45:59are are definitely important to know, but they're not rocket
- 46:01science. So first and foremost,
- 46:03consistency. You got to keep showing up even
- 46:05when you're not getting a lot of engagement, even if you've grown
- 46:08100 followers in six months. But eventually continuing to
- 46:11show up really does make a difference.
- 46:13My mom used to say showing up is half the battle, right?
- 46:15You just have to be there and be willing to put yourself out
- 46:17there. But most importantly, I think
- 46:19the best advice I can give to somebody looking to start their
- 46:22content creation career is that you can't be somebody else.
- 46:25You can't be Lila Rose Two point O or Isabel Brown 2 Point O or
- 46:28Kristen Hawkins Two Point O. There already are people who are
- 46:30doing that and they have their own audience and it works for
- 46:33them for a reason because it's authentically themselves.
- 46:36I see a lot of people try to embrace this, like repost
- 46:38account strategy or literally copying somebody's video that
- 46:42they just posted 20 minutes ago and it's not going to do very
- 46:45well because it's already been out there.
- 46:46So you don't know what's really going to work for you
- 46:48necessarily. For some people that might be
- 46:51little swipe through infographics.
- 46:52For other people, it might be a funny reaction to something
- 46:55crazy viral on the Internet might be instructional.
- 46:57For you, it might be more religious or political or
- 47:00pro-life. You have to be willing to
- 47:01experiment with all of those things and see what your
- 47:03audience is looking for. But always seek to be
- 47:06authentically you, to be as what you see is what you get on the
- 47:09Internet as possible. Because what people are really,
- 47:12desperately attracted to, and I just wrote about this at length
- 47:14in my book, is authenticity in our Internet digital age, where
- 47:18everything is hyper edited and carefully constructed and the
- 47:21narrative is very, very carefully woven for you as a
- 47:24propaganda piece. To have somebody putting their
- 47:27makeup on in the bathroom, get ready with me while I talk about
- 47:30XYZ or driving around in their car or sitting in their
- 47:32sweatpants in their dorm room, that's a really attractive thing
- 47:35right now, and it makes it feel like you're just hanging out
- 47:37with a friend. So I guarantee there's someone
- 47:39listening, especially someone maybe a Gen.
- 47:42Z or who's like how do I be authentic on social media?
- 47:45It's so fake. Any final words of advice for
- 47:47that? How to How to show up and be
- 47:49authentically yourself and share your values on social media.
- 47:52You don't need a multi zillion dollar your podcast studio or TV
- 47:56studio. You don't need to wear a full
- 47:57face of makeup or have your hair perfectly.
- 47:59You can sit there literally in your pajamas and just act like
- 48:02you're talking to a friend, but a friend in truth and speaking
- 48:05the truth in love, that's so powerful and so effective.
- 48:09I have no doubt that every member of our generation who's
- 48:12willing to answer that call to action to be in the arena can
- 48:14make unbelievable strides, not just in growing a following, but
- 48:18more importantly making an impact.
- 48:20And really what we're trying to do in the pro-life movement,
- 48:23what we do politically, what Catholics are trying to do right
- 48:26now on the Internet is very simple.
- 48:27It all just boils down to telling people the truth.
- 48:29It doesn't have to be viral on the Libs clickbait content in
- 48:33order to be effective. Just that soft nature of
- 48:36standing for your values unapologetically in love with a
- 48:39smile on your face is so, so attractive and I know will make
- 48:42a difference. Awesome, thanks.
- 48:44And Isabel, where can people find your book?
- 48:46You can buy The End of the Alphabet, How Gen.
- 48:48Z Can Save America Wherever Books are sold, and tune into
- 48:51all of our content at the Isabel Brown.
- 48:53Thanks for all you're doing, Isabel.
- 48:54Keep it up. You're awesome.
- 48:55Thank you. Thanks so much for listening to
- 48:57this episode of Delilah Rose podcast.
- 48:59I hope you're encouraged. I'm encouraged.
- 49:01The reality is the truth is always stronger than the lie and
- 49:04that life is stronger than death.
- 49:06God will be in. Christ is victorious.
- 49:08And you and I can be a part of the plan, the unfolding plan to
- 49:12restore this country and make this world more good, more true,
- 49:15more beautiful. So let's get in the arena.
- 49:18Thank you, Isabel, for being in the arena.
- 49:20And we can do this all together. As always, don't forget to
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