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Full Episode: Bevy Smith, the Pop Culture Aficionado; Olowo-n’djo T’Chala, Founder & CEO of Alaffia; Dr. Geneva Williams, Master Leadership Strategist, Speaker, and Author; & Corey Wilcox, the Inventor of the Roto-Brain · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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Speaker 1: are different types of people that you're meeting this business,
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Speaker 1: pop culture, sports, the finances are tied to those four
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Speaker 1: categories of our demon Pott No Money Making Conversation. My
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Speaker 1: next guest is Betty Smith. She is an author, pop
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Speaker 1: culture deficionado, fashion expert, and host of be Relations on
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Speaker 1: Sirius XM Radio. Andy Beby just released our first book,
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Speaker 1: be Relations, Relations of her memoir about learning to live
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Speaker 1: a big, authentic and unapologetic life and how you can
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Speaker 1: do it too once in a while. It's successful luxurally
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Speaker 1: fashioning publication executive at Rolling Stone and Vibe magazine. She
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Speaker 1: shifted and I have really I can relate to that
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Speaker 1: because I did some shifting and we're gonna discuss because
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Speaker 1: a lot of things in her book I related to
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Speaker 1: and she shifted her professional goals over a decade ago
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Speaker 1: to pursue a life in front of the camera. Bety
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Speaker 1: served as a moderator on Bravo TVs revolutionary talk show
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Speaker 1: Fashion Queens, and with a co host in the nationally
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Speaker 1: syndicated entertainment news program Page six TV. Please Working the
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Speaker 1: money in conversation for the very first time, but not
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Speaker 1: the last time, Mrs Bevy Smith, how are you doing?
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Speaker 1: I love, my love, I'm so happy to be here
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Speaker 1: with you. Well, I you know, I we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: the book. But it's a lot going on in your life,
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Speaker 1: you know, And it's my design. I I took it
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Speaker 1: with my reading from the book that every move you
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Speaker 1: made was not something that's just kind of happened. It
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Speaker 1: happened because you started out. You planned it and and
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Speaker 1: and and it worked to your favor. And that's what
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Speaker 1: the book really is about planning your destiny and choosing
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Speaker 1: your path correct. It is it is. You know. I'm
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Speaker 1: from Harlem, and so a lot of times and people
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Speaker 1: hear my story they say, oh my gosh, you're such
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Speaker 1: a hustler, and I always tell them I'm not a hustler.
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Speaker 1: I'm a strategist. Because a hustler will do anything to
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Speaker 1: make their money, you know. The in goal for them
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Speaker 1: is always about the green the money, And for me,
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Speaker 1: it's always about satisfaction, finding my work. Um. And I'm
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Speaker 1: also not going to take things that don't resonate with me.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ever take a job that just
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Speaker 1: really doesn't connect with me. Um, it's just not worth it.
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Speaker 1: I've been offered a myriad of time to be a
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Speaker 1: part of reality TV show once or rights in my life,
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Speaker 1: and I've always said no because I just doesn't fit in. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do believe that's important. It's imperative to have a
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Speaker 1: plan for your life, to have a strategy for your
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Speaker 1: life and not just allow things to just kind of happen.
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Speaker 1: But while at the same time being open to the journey.
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Speaker 1: The journey is really important. That we want to talk
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Speaker 1: about your book bere Relations, and you have relations in
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Speaker 1: it a little a little uh like all a little
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Speaker 1: the little um statements of information that would allow you
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Speaker 1: to move your life forward in a positive direction with planning.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I took away from the book. And
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Speaker 1: it's a long book now, but a good read because
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Speaker 1: it's talks about your life from childhood. It talks about
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Speaker 1: your parents, talk about your older brother, your your your
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Speaker 1: sister who's a nerd, older brother who's gay, and and
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Speaker 1: your father who worked at a copper refinery pact factory,
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Speaker 1: and your mom who was cleaned homes. But I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to, like you said in the book. You know,
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Speaker 1: let me not let you think your mama was working
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Speaker 1: like the people in the Help. Your mom had fashion,
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Speaker 1: your mama had personality, and that's where you got your
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Speaker 1: personality from from your mom. Correct. Indeed, I got my
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Speaker 1: my fashion, sensibility and my outgoing personality from my mom.
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Speaker 1: My mom is still, at this age of ninety three,
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Speaker 1: one of the most fashionable people that I know, and
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Speaker 1: it's been a great honor to be her daughter, along
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Speaker 1: with my daddy, gust Lee Smith, and I said his
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Speaker 1: name in every interview, So um, yes, it's been an
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Speaker 1: honor to be their daughter. Well, you know, I know
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Speaker 1: that I was fortunate. H I grew up in fear
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Speaker 1: War Texas and it was just like the who as
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Speaker 1: they would say in her city in Houston, Texas. And um,
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Speaker 1: I both my parents. My father was a truck driver,
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Speaker 1: my mom was a high school had received a high
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Speaker 1: school education. Six sisters, two brothers. My family was a
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Speaker 1: little bit bigger than yours. But the family was important
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Speaker 1: to me because it shaped me. And I felt that
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Speaker 1: in reading your book, you constantly talked about how your
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Speaker 1: family shaped you. That's definitely you know, Um, my parents
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Speaker 1: gave us a really incredible work ethic. They also, um,
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Speaker 1: even though they were from Jim Crow South, they were
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Speaker 1: not enamored by white people. They never felt like we
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Speaker 1: needed to compare ourselves to white people to see how excellent.
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Speaker 1: So I never got that traditional speech for that a
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Speaker 1: lot of black people get, which is you have to
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Speaker 1: be ten times better than the white person to get,
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Speaker 1: you know, half as much. I never got that message
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Speaker 1: in my home. And although I understand why many people
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Speaker 1: give their kids that message, I'm so glad I didn't
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Speaker 1: get that message because then when I went into all white,
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Speaker 1: um environments for work. You know, everything I've ever done
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Speaker 1: really has been primarily a white world. Advertising is incredibly
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Speaker 1: white unless you work, and multicultural fashion is incredibly white,
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Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about the luxury fashion category. You know,
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Speaker 1: TV is incredibly white. Um. You know. So I've always
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Speaker 1: gone into these environments. But because I didn't have that
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Speaker 1: hanging over my head that I needed to show white
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Speaker 1: people that I was just as good, if not better. UM,
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Speaker 1: I was able to go into experiences and just to
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Speaker 1: my work and do the good work, which is how
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Speaker 1: my parents raised us to do. And then from my sister,
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Speaker 1: she was the one who gave me a lot of
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Speaker 1: my black uh kind of intelligencia information. She's the one
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Speaker 1: who told me all about the Hall and Renaissance and
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Speaker 1: and why the community that we were living in was
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Speaker 1: so great and it was had such a legacy. And therefore,
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Speaker 1: because I was living there and working on the same
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Speaker 1: streets as Baldwin, as Zora, Neil Hurston, as Linkston News,
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Speaker 1: as a Philip Randolph Adam Claim Powell Jr. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. Because I was walking
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Speaker 1: on those same streets, because I was attending schools they
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Speaker 1: had their names on the building. I had a legacy
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Speaker 1: as well, and that I could be black excellence. And
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Speaker 1: then my brother gave me my love of art. My
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Speaker 1: brother was, as you mentioned, he's gay, and he gave
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Speaker 1: me passionate about art. Ja It's like the creative arts
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Speaker 1: just overall, well, you know the fun part about it.
7:04
Speaker 1: You know, let's go astrology. I'm Pisces. You know your scorpio.
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Speaker 1: You know I know that. Come on, I wouldn't bring
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Speaker 1: up Pisces if I didn't scope you. You know, we're romantic,
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Speaker 1: you know, poet and a system will together, you know,
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Speaker 1: became day almost birthday Youthday, February seven, coming on and
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Speaker 1: then and I can I can respect. That's why I
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Speaker 1: love this book. Okay, any book that quotes lyrics from
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Speaker 1: Teddy Pendergrass. I'm telling you, you're my girl there, You're
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Speaker 1: a girl right there. And the book was so much fun,
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Speaker 1: it was so honest, it was so you know, uh, well,
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Speaker 1: I stay honest because you wouldn't to tell us when
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Speaker 1: you made a mistake. You wouldn't open up about your
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Speaker 1: personal life from your from your siblings, to your parents,
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Speaker 1: to your lifestyle. At what point in the book that
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Speaker 1: you went, wow, I am telling a lot. Did they
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Speaker 1: ever cross your mind? You know? I felt that it
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Speaker 1: was a really freeing experience to be able to tell
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Speaker 1: my story in this way and to tell it in
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Speaker 1: an authentic manner, because you know which I'm actually moving on.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is another chapter that I'm embarking the pond.
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Speaker 1: My book is literally my book Revelations, Lessons from my Mother,
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Speaker 1: Auntie Bestie, a combination of fifteen years of work when
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Speaker 1: I left welling Stone Magazine to now. And that's fifteen
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Speaker 1: years of attempting to be a part of this industry,
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Speaker 1: be a television host and become a writer all those things.
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Speaker 1: And I did it, and now I'm on to the
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Speaker 1: next And I knew that this book, if I was
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Speaker 1: honest in this book, this book would actually be a
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Speaker 1: catalyst for that change and for that next chapter in
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Speaker 1: my life. So I had no no hesitation about being
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Speaker 1: very honest, authentic. No, let me share some things that
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Speaker 1: are related to okay, um, you know uh. First of all,
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Speaker 1: the name change. You know very my name is Rashawn
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Speaker 1: publicly now I'm a junior. My father's actual name is
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Speaker 1: Russian McDonald. And so it got to I got to
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Speaker 1: a point in my life where I needed to find
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Speaker 1: my identity, what was my voice because I went through
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Speaker 1: some of the same middle school and the high school
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Speaker 1: challenges you with you trying to find your voice, maybe
9:19
Speaker 1: running with the wrong crowd and and and defining yourself.
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Speaker 1: And so I remember I was in college when I
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Speaker 1: changed my name, And so when I left school in
9:27
Speaker 1: the spring, I was Russian. I came back to school
9:30
Speaker 1: in the fall, I was Rashawn, and I was correcting people.
9:32
Speaker 1: I was saying, hey, my name is was Shan. And
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Speaker 1: and then of course everybody from high school you ain't
9:37
Speaker 1: know Rashane you're Russian whatever, but youtually gonna be saying Rashane.
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Speaker 1: I was just telling it all the time. I said,
9:43
Speaker 1: I said, you eventually gonna be saying Rashan one day,
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Speaker 1: and and that and that. And I related to that
9:49
Speaker 1: because you know, when you make a decision to say
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Speaker 1: this is who I am, that's a powerful statement. And
9:55
Speaker 1: I know because I experienced it. And sometimes you people
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Speaker 1: make you trying to be you know, trying to browbeat you,
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Speaker 1: try to bully you, just and trying to define who
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Speaker 1: they think you are. And that's why the name changed
10:06
Speaker 1: for you was very important to tell us about that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I love that story with Sean because it is
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Speaker 1: very similar. I was um at the height of my
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Speaker 1: advertising fashion career. I was thirty three years old. UM.
10:19
Speaker 1: I had just arrived at Milan. I was surrounded by
10:22
Speaker 1: gifts and Bucci and father and and all the big
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Speaker 1: Italian luxury brands. I had, you know, just gotten out
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Speaker 1: of my luxury Mercedes Sadan with my driver Giofani. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was quite fabulous and I come to, you know,
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Speaker 1: my regular hotel suite in Milan at the Fanciest uh
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Speaker 1: you know, five star hotel in Milan. And I'm a
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Speaker 1: black girl from home. I'm a hundred and fiftiest street
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Speaker 1: in Nida, So clearly this is I've come a long
10:48
Speaker 1: way from the block, right, And when I arrived this
10:53
Speaker 1: is probably like, you know, maybe my I don't know,
10:55
Speaker 1: twenty of thirtieth time doing that, right, because I've been
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Speaker 1: in the business for me and I've been living this
11:01
Speaker 1: kind of lifestyle for a while. And when I when
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Speaker 1: I got to that hotel woman, when the bellman left,
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Speaker 1: I collapsed onto the sheets and I was like, this
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Speaker 1: cannot be my life. I realized I was miserable and
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Speaker 1: was dissatisfied, and I just felt like there was a
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Speaker 1: hole in my spirit. And I said, how can I
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Speaker 1: change my life? And I did not really have an answer,
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Speaker 1: but I sat down and I wrote out the things
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Speaker 1: that made me feel bad about myself and about my life.
11:27
Speaker 1: I realized that I was working in a career fashion
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Speaker 1: that really does prey on women's insecurities, and um, you know,
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Speaker 1: and also it was a tough position for me because
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Speaker 1: I was working in luxury and there weren't a lot
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Speaker 1: of black people in the space, so I was always
11:42
Speaker 1: having to show up and kind of be a representative
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Speaker 1: for my entire culture. And for a while I took
11:49
Speaker 1: a lot of pride in that, but then it just
11:50
Speaker 1: became exhausting, um and there were lots of other things,
11:53
Speaker 1: and I bolt these things down, and I said, well,
11:55
Speaker 1: what can I do about it? Now? Clearly, if I'm
11:57
Speaker 1: I'm from a hundred and fifty street and night that
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Speaker 1: haplue for all I'm in the hood, I'm not gonna
12:02
Speaker 1: up and jump my uh you know, quit my uh
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Speaker 1: six figure job, right I'm not gonna do that because
12:07
Speaker 1: I'm just satisfied. I said, what can I do to
12:10
Speaker 1: start changing my life right now? And I said, I
12:13
Speaker 1: can change how people address me. Because I was so
12:16
Speaker 1: successful at my job at Vibe Magazine, they have started
12:20
Speaker 1: calling me Beverly Smith from Vibe Magazine. That was my name,
12:24
Speaker 1: and I said, no, I don't want to do that anymore,
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Speaker 1: because one day I'm gonna leave vib Magazine and one
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Speaker 1: day I'm gonna do something different. And I don't want
12:31
Speaker 1: my name to be so closely connected to an enterprise
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Speaker 1: and really has nothing to do with me. It's not
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Speaker 1: something I own. So I said, I'm gonna change my
12:39
Speaker 1: name to Betty because Betty is a Betty abundance much,
12:43
Speaker 1: you know, so it's me. I'll take that. So I
12:48
Speaker 1: became Betty Smith. You know. The beauty of that story is,
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Speaker 1: like I said, I I experienced it, and you know,
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Speaker 1: and that the early part of it is when people
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Speaker 1: start accepting it, because there's a group of people that
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Speaker 1: will accepted and then some people will tease you and
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Speaker 1: kind of remind you like they have something that over
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Speaker 1: your head or well, I know who you really are.
13:08
Speaker 1: But the but the big part about it was, you know,
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Speaker 1: my whole life. And this is where we relate A
13:14
Speaker 1: lot is that. And this is with anybody. You're told
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Speaker 1: you raised by a parent of your two parents. If
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Speaker 1: you're fortunate, and you go to middle school, high school,
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Speaker 1: you told how to walk, talk, you make decisions. You
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Speaker 1: you may go to college if you're fortunate, all the decisions,
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Speaker 1: a lot of the decisions are being made by somebody else.
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Speaker 1: They're shaping you. And so when you have a personality
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Speaker 1: like I have a person like what like Bevy has
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Speaker 1: a personality, it's not normal. Her personality is not normal
13:42
Speaker 1: because it was screaming to say something different, to say
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Speaker 1: something like my degree is in mathematics and so oh
13:48
Speaker 1: I got a degree to but I was screaming, like
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Speaker 1: like like your careers in fashion and Vibe and Rolling Stone,
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Speaker 1: So that's what I said. It was later, but you
13:55
Speaker 1: were screaming and say, yes, I'm successful, Yes I'm achieving.
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Speaker 1: I work for IBM, But I was screaming saying that's
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Speaker 1: not what I want to do for the rest of
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Speaker 1: my life. And that voice. Talk tell us about that
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Speaker 1: little voice. Because I heard that voice in my body
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Speaker 1: and I ran from it. I was afraid to tell
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Speaker 1: people about it. And when I finally made the decision
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Speaker 1: that this is who are going to be, it brought
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Speaker 1: me to tears because I was, for the first time,
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Speaker 1: being honest in my life. And that's why I love
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Speaker 1: your book Relationships, because it's about being honest, and you're
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Speaker 1: asking any reader who read your book to be honest
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Speaker 1: about yourselves when you start reading the book, when you
14:33
Speaker 1: walk away from it in the end, there will be
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Speaker 1: changes because for the first time, you have basically a
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Speaker 1: blueprint on somebody who's telling her story, unapology, unapologetic life
14:44
Speaker 1: that in comparison, is very similar to yours. Yeah, so
14:48
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to challenge people book inside to really kind
14:53
Speaker 1: of excavate um what they really want in life. As
14:57
Speaker 1: you mentioned, oftentimes especially we're successful, um as Black people especially,
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Speaker 1: we feel very guilty about being successful in in our
15:08
Speaker 1: careers and then I'm wanting to do something different because
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Speaker 1: we know from whence it became. And even the most
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Speaker 1: affluent Black person is traditionally only maybe too if they're
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Speaker 1: blessed four generations away from poverty, right, you know, like
15:24
Speaker 1: you know traditionally you know, our parents are come through
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Speaker 1: Jim pro South. You know, my parents were they actually
15:31
Speaker 1: knew slaves. My my grandparents you know, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: so we're not that far removed. So when we start
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Speaker 1: to become successful, we find ourselves feeling very guilty about
15:45
Speaker 1: saying I don't want this because who are we? You know,
15:48
Speaker 1: there's that whole meaning that goes around on social media.
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Speaker 1: I am my, uh my, my my ancestors wildest dreams,
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure when I was a Beverly Smith fashion
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Speaker 1: average tising, making a great six figure salary and traveling
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Speaker 1: all over the world, my grandparents could never have imagined
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Speaker 1: that these were people worn in the eighteen hundreds. How
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Speaker 1: can they imagine that their granddaughter would have all of
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Speaker 1: this latitude and have all this luxury and have all
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Speaker 1: these um you know, and have actually a staff that
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Speaker 1: looked up to her, you know how open always says her.
16:22
Speaker 1: Grandmother said, one day, you're gonna, you know, find yourself
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Speaker 1: some good white people to work for. And Oprah said, open, Grandma.
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Speaker 1: Now I found actually good white people to work for me.
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Speaker 1: So all battle that. But I think that in my book,
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Speaker 1: which is meant to be a self help book, I
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Speaker 1: really stressed to you that if you have a dream,
16:41
Speaker 1: if you have a passion that's inside of you, even
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Speaker 1: though you're really successful at your current job, your career,
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Speaker 1: what have you, you owe it to yourself to explore that.
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Speaker 1: You have to And it doesn't mean and I never
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Speaker 1: tell people to do what I did, which is I
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Speaker 1: quit my job totally. I quit a job at Rolling
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Speaker 1: So magazine where I was making three fifty tho dollars
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Speaker 1: a year and I quit. Okay, I'm not advising anyone
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Speaker 1: to do that. That's a very hard thing to do,
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Speaker 1: and then that's an extreme thing to do. That's what
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Speaker 1: I need to do for myself. But for you, it
17:16
Speaker 1: could be just as simple as actually honing in on
17:19
Speaker 1: that passion, you know, how many of us are amazing
17:22
Speaker 1: home cooks. My sister is a great home cook. Guess
17:25
Speaker 1: what she did. She started up her own catering business, MS.
17:29
Speaker 1: Longley's Kitchen, and it's doing really well. I have another
17:33
Speaker 1: friend who actually shot the cover of my my book.
17:38
Speaker 1: He is a music industry executive, has nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with photography, but he was taking his classes. He was
17:44
Speaker 1: doing so well, and I said, what would you would
17:47
Speaker 1: you actually take the photo from my book? And I
17:50
Speaker 1: gave him an opportunity and my publisher paid him for that.
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Speaker 1: You know, so we we. But the thing is we
17:57
Speaker 1: don't ever even try to follow our dreams and to
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Speaker 1: chase our passions. We will never ever know if we
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Speaker 1: can actually do them. We will never know. So it's
18:09
Speaker 1: very imperative. I know you're successful. I know you're doing
18:12
Speaker 1: the damn thing. I know everyone loves you in that position.
18:15
Speaker 1: I remember when I put Rolling Song, my boss said
18:17
Speaker 1: to me, you can't quit. You're in line to be, uh,
18:22
Speaker 1: you know, a publisher. You could actually run this magazine
18:25
Speaker 1: one day. And I was like, yeah, I know I can,
18:27
Speaker 1: but that's not what I want to do. I want
18:30
Speaker 1: to do all these other creative things. I want to
18:32
Speaker 1: be a writer. I want to be a TV personality.
18:34
Speaker 1: I want to act, I want to sing, I want
18:37
Speaker 1: to dance. I want to do all these creative things.
18:40
Speaker 1: I want to paint, I want to study art and architecture.
18:43
Speaker 1: And guess what was Sean, I'm doing all those things now.
18:47
Speaker 1: You do not tell me because I feel like I
18:49
Speaker 1: told you. Our stories crossed so many times, you know,
18:52
Speaker 1: and and and and not, and I never enough. And
18:54
Speaker 1: I'm sure it crosses a lot of people who are
18:56
Speaker 1: gonna read this book and people who are looking for direction.
18:59
Speaker 1: And I tell you this, you know, you know it's
19:01
Speaker 1: not a dollar value. Because I remember when I was
19:05
Speaker 1: white no Jamie Foxx Show, and I went to one
19:07
Speaker 1: of brothers and I said, can you let me out
19:10
Speaker 1: of the contract. I was making money, but I wanted
19:12
Speaker 1: to go a different direction to my care career. Wasn't
19:15
Speaker 1: nothing to do with bill Ley Avers, who was a
19:17
Speaker 1: good friend of mine to day Jamie Foxx. It was
19:20
Speaker 1: at that point in my career I wanted to do
19:21
Speaker 1: something different. I wanted to I wanted to have been
19:24
Speaker 1: making that decision eventually leave me to managing Steve Harvey,
19:27
Speaker 1: because you know that move right there went over to
19:31
Speaker 1: the Parkers, and I was writing known as a consultant producer,
19:34
Speaker 1: which gave me time to start managing Steve and we
19:37
Speaker 1: got a deal to do the Morning Show in two
19:39
Speaker 1: thousand and basically the rest of history, you know, family feud,
19:43
Speaker 1: the three books, the two movies, and were all avoid
19:46
Speaker 1: And he has a career that he'll never looked back
19:48
Speaker 1: on it and I have a career that I don't
19:50
Speaker 1: look back on. But it's a decision you make, and
19:52
Speaker 1: that's like. And the reason I bring that up is
19:55
Speaker 1: that you know, money holds a lot of people hostage.
19:59
Speaker 1: It holds the stage from their dreams, hold them hostage
20:02
Speaker 1: from the opportunities. I have to stop you for a
20:05
Speaker 1: moment because this is something that's really pertinent. Right before
20:10
Speaker 1: I decided to quit rolling Stone, I also had an
20:13
Speaker 1: opportunity to buy a brown Stone Hall Now for pyone
20:16
Speaker 1: who doesn't understand what that means, is that I had
20:19
Speaker 1: an opportunity at that time to buy a Brownstone that
20:22
Speaker 1: would have been two dollars um, which that Brownstone now
20:27
Speaker 1: probably goes for one point five minutes in the fifteen
20:30
Speaker 1: years span, that's how much the property values have risen.
20:34
Speaker 1: But if I had brought that brownstone with Sean, I
20:37
Speaker 1: could not have also quit my job, and I would
20:42
Speaker 1: have been beholden to the job so that I could
20:46
Speaker 1: maintain that lifestyle of that brown stone. And sometimes people
20:51
Speaker 1: do not understand, which is what you were alluding to.
20:53
Speaker 1: They do not understand that sometimes your money and your
20:56
Speaker 1: possessions can become a guilded cage. It can become an
21:00
Speaker 1: albatross right around your neck, and you have to be
21:04
Speaker 1: careful about that, you know. In my book, I write
21:06
Speaker 1: a chapter called Brooke but Blissful, and so many people
21:10
Speaker 1: are outraged about that chapter because they're just like, I
21:13
Speaker 1: can't believe you went from three fifty thousand dollars a
21:16
Speaker 1: year the thirty five thousand dollars a year. And I
21:19
Speaker 1: tell them all the time, I did that because I
21:21
Speaker 1: knew that it was a temporary moment. Trouble don't last always.
21:26
Speaker 1: I knew I could make more money. But what I
21:28
Speaker 1: knew also is that if I kept on that same
21:31
Speaker 1: path of being a fashion advertising director, I would have
21:35
Speaker 1: made a lot of money and been incredibly miserable. And
21:38
Speaker 1: what kind of life is that? That's not a life
21:40
Speaker 1: worth living to me? Well, I would tell you this
21:42
Speaker 1: your life in this book has been ahead of the time.
21:45
Speaker 1: I want to I want to go. In a couple
21:47
Speaker 1: of areas of the book, I thought they just stood
21:49
Speaker 1: out the Essence culture versus the Vibe culture. And that's
21:53
Speaker 1: important because time periods dictate how people react to you.
21:58
Speaker 1: Like you said, you know, I was ten years earlier,
22:00
Speaker 1: tenors too early when I walked into Essence with the
22:03
Speaker 1: look that you had at that point, Now that that
22:06
Speaker 1: look would work. It was it was like, talk about
22:09
Speaker 1: the essence culture and the Vibe culture because you're an
22:12
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to Essence and you chose Vibe. Yes, yeah,
22:16
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to go to Essence magazine, the
22:19
Speaker 1: the grand dam of Essence Magazine. And Taylor, who is
22:22
Speaker 1: an iconic woman and who's such a great gift and
22:26
Speaker 1: a woman who doesn't judge other women. She she met
22:29
Speaker 1: with me and she thought I was terrific, and she said,
22:32
Speaker 1: you know what, I think there's a position here for you.
22:35
Speaker 1: Go and meet with my my advertising team. And when
22:38
Speaker 1: I met with them, I realized that everyone was in
22:41
Speaker 1: like really businesswomen's suits, you know, like everyone had like,
22:46
Speaker 1: you know, collars up to here they were wearing suits.
22:50
Speaker 1: They weren't wearing that. You know that their makeup was
22:53
Speaker 1: very subdued and understated, and no, I was like, whoa, yeah,
22:57
Speaker 1: I just left the white and the old white environed
23:00
Speaker 1: me ragging and feel my most natural bevy as self.
23:05
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into a black environment and
23:07
Speaker 1: not feel my most bevy as self. And so I
23:10
Speaker 1: declined that that author. And then a couple of months
23:15
Speaker 1: later I got an offer to be at Vibe magazine.
23:18
Speaker 1: And when I walked and by, I said, oh, this
23:19
Speaker 1: is my jam right here. I see. I'm I'm the
23:22
Speaker 1: first generation of hip hop and I'm going raised in
23:24
Speaker 1: New York. So hip hop is my thing. And in
23:27
Speaker 1: the book, as you know what, Sean, I talked about
23:29
Speaker 1: being big Bet from Uptown, friends of Tupac and Biggie
23:32
Speaker 1: and you know Puff, and I'm in the scene. I'm
23:35
Speaker 1: on the scene, and so hip hop is my natural habitat.
23:39
Speaker 1: And so when I'm walking to Vibe, they get my
23:41
Speaker 1: flag girl look, they get my big errands, they get
23:45
Speaker 1: that I'm showing some cleavage and I'm still gonna take
23:47
Speaker 1: care of business, you know what I mean. So it
23:49
Speaker 1: was a really good fit. So sometimes you know, you
23:52
Speaker 1: have to look at a corporate culture and know whether
23:55
Speaker 1: not it's worth it to you to contort yourself and
23:58
Speaker 1: to do things that don't feel necessarily natural to you.
24:02
Speaker 1: Is it worth it? When I went to rolling Stone,
24:05
Speaker 1: totally different corporate culture again, right back into an all
24:08
Speaker 1: white situation. But I went up in rolling Stone was
24:11
Speaker 1: a real reason, as you know what shann I talked about.
24:14
Speaker 1: I went to Rolling Stone knowing that I was gonna
24:16
Speaker 1: quit as soon as I got my bonus shot. Absolutely
24:19
Speaker 1: absolutely gonna doing hot ten months up and there, and
24:22
Speaker 1: as soon as they gave me my bonus chut, I
24:25
Speaker 1: was gonna be like child for now. But you know
24:28
Speaker 1: the thing about it, in that moment that if you
24:30
Speaker 1: we used to vibe rolling Stones, moment that you had
24:33
Speaker 1: because you didn't really expect to go to rolling Stone.
24:36
Speaker 1: You was using roller Stones as a stepping stone, and
24:38
Speaker 1: then Vibe said, uh, you know, the Viber's first, and
24:42
Speaker 1: then it was rolling right, it was Vibe. I apologize
24:44
Speaker 1: it was rolling Stone because you went to roller Stone,
24:46
Speaker 1: picked up an offer, and then you took it back
24:48
Speaker 1: over the Vibe and the Vibe said, oh wow, good luck,
24:52
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck, and so and so and you
24:55
Speaker 1: were ready for that. You you were caught off guard,
24:57
Speaker 1: but it didn't slow down your momentum. And so that's
25:00
Speaker 1: why I just loved the whole process is that do
25:03
Speaker 1: not and I talk about in my intro, do not
25:06
Speaker 1: allow people to control your destiny. Write your own story.
25:09
Speaker 1: And you continually write your own story. And I want
25:13
Speaker 1: to ask you one thing, Bevy, because I'm talking to
25:16
Speaker 1: Bevy Smith, author a tremendous book that I want to
25:19
Speaker 1: recommend to everybody called bever Relations as Herman Wall by
25:22
Speaker 1: learning to live a big, authentic and unapolotic life and
25:25
Speaker 1: how you can't too. One of the most fulfilling speaking
25:28
Speaker 1: events was your tour of HBCUs. Uh talked about HBCUs.
25:33
Speaker 1: I did not attend one, but I'm a big proponent.
25:36
Speaker 1: I promoted, I amplify HBCUs Equal Black Excellence. Tell us
25:41
Speaker 1: about how impactful that tour was that your girlfriend from
25:44
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25:50
Speaker 1: you know, I also went to a p W I
25:52
Speaker 1: you know, I went to New York University, where I
25:54
Speaker 1: did not graduate because I was already in my career.
25:57
Speaker 1: And so my boss was like, well, you can actually
26:00
Speaker 1: teach the force. And now you're miss missing out on
26:02
Speaker 1: big presentations and meetings. You know, the rubbie hit the road.
26:06
Speaker 1: So I actually left UM, but probably only a year
26:10
Speaker 1: left to get my degree. But it didn't stop me.
26:12
Speaker 1: But I always tell people it's one thing to drop
26:15
Speaker 1: out of a prestigious school like n y U and
26:18
Speaker 1: another thing to drop out of a you know, a
26:20
Speaker 1: school the Trump University. Let's put it that. So, UM,
26:25
Speaker 1: I like you. I'm a very big fan of HBCUs.
26:29
Speaker 1: And so when I had the opportunity to go and
26:31
Speaker 1: speak UM, it was a boost mobile toy. It was
26:33
Speaker 1: really an amazing moment for me because it was my
26:36
Speaker 1: first ever speaking engagement UM. And so I learned the
26:41
Speaker 1: lat I was on the panel with people who did
26:43
Speaker 1: a lot of public speaking, and when I realized is
26:46
Speaker 1: that they had very wrote, very scripted kind of things
26:50
Speaker 1: that they would talk about, and every stopped would be
26:53
Speaker 1: the same line. So from Morehouse to Howard, from you
26:56
Speaker 1: know fam you too, you know uh Morris Brown, they
27:01
Speaker 1: would say the same kind of things. And I also
27:04
Speaker 1: realized that they were giving people are highlights real and
27:08
Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, that's not going to help the kids,
27:10
Speaker 1: giving them a highlights real We need to let them
27:13
Speaker 1: know about the real challenges that they will face in
27:17
Speaker 1: the workplace being black going into corporate America. What can
27:21
Speaker 1: they expect and how can they how can they navigate
27:24
Speaker 1: these issues? And so that's when I decided to come
27:28
Speaker 1: really clean. I started telling people about my most authentic self.
27:32
Speaker 1: And then the book I talk about, you know, finding
27:34
Speaker 1: out three things, and that's how you develop your own
27:36
Speaker 1: personal brand. Who are you at your core? How are
27:40
Speaker 1: you being perceived? How would you like to be perceived?
27:43
Speaker 1: If you can answer those three questions really honestly, And
27:46
Speaker 1: that's where the introspective work comes in. That if you
27:49
Speaker 1: can answer those questions, you can develop a personal brand.
27:52
Speaker 1: And once you develop your personal brand, I have a
27:54
Speaker 1: chap to call brand You, and that talks about how
27:57
Speaker 1: you can maximize and actually sell people into your personal brand,
28:01
Speaker 1: have them buy into it. And that's what I was
28:04
Speaker 1: able to do on that tour. But I gotta tell
28:06
Speaker 1: you you know which, y'all. Um. As I've mentioned several
28:10
Speaker 1: times just in this interview, I'm from Harlem, and when
28:13
Speaker 1: I was in these all white environments, especially when I
28:18
Speaker 1: was a kid in the eighties, and as an advertising receptionist,
28:21
Speaker 1: um people were hard fied that I lived in home,
28:24
Speaker 1: and they would say things like are you saved? Don't
28:27
Speaker 1: you want to move? And things like that. And when
28:29
Speaker 1: I would go over to Europe, I would always tell
28:31
Speaker 1: people I was from Harlem versus saying I'm from Manhattan.
28:35
Speaker 1: We call him as a neighborhood in Manhattan. So I
28:37
Speaker 1: could have easily said I'm from Manhattan and that that
28:40
Speaker 1: means everything you know. Manhattan is what you see when
28:42
Speaker 1: you think of New York City. You really only think
28:44
Speaker 1: of Manhattan and now Brooklyn. But Willie Manhattan, right, And
28:48
Speaker 1: so I could have said that, but I chose to
28:51
Speaker 1: always lead with Harman. And can I just tell you something,
28:54
Speaker 1: from being authentic about my brand and about who I
28:57
Speaker 1: am and where I'm from, I have made so much
29:01
Speaker 1: money from Harlem from being from Harlem, because now all
29:05
Speaker 1: these big brands come into Harlem and they want an
29:08
Speaker 1: authentic and they want someone who has recognized, recognizable from
29:13
Speaker 1: a national point of view, or someone who is very
29:16
Speaker 1: locally connected, and there I am. So I learned doing
29:20
Speaker 1: that on that HBCU tour. I learned to be my
29:24
Speaker 1: most authentic self and not to hide these things. That's
29:27
Speaker 1: even the reason why I put in the book that
29:29
Speaker 1: didn't graduate from y you. I thought it was important
29:32
Speaker 1: to put that in there, you know. So yeah, it's
29:35
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29:38
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Speaker 1: We were discussing overcoming the arts, something I'm vary for
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Speaker 1: me with in America, so it happens everywhere. Stereotyping and
34:23
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Speaker 1: and his female centric business model, please working to money
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Speaker 1: main conversations, Well win, Joe, Charlotte, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's get the name right there. I did. I
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Speaker 1: for a little while, absolutely so, so tell me man,
34:56
Speaker 1: you know, you know we always deal with stereotypes, you know,
34:59
Speaker 1: you know, since I've been uh in this business, you know,
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Speaker 1: because I want to start to the truth, to talk
35:05
Speaker 1: to the journey, because you've had the battle stereotypes. You know.
35:09
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say negative things about
35:11
Speaker 1: people from Africa, UH, scam artists. Uh, you know, shouldn't
35:15
Speaker 1: trust them, always got some up their sleeve. And then
35:18
Speaker 1: but you want to be a businessman, and so you're
35:20
Speaker 1: trying to convince the same people who are these stereotypes.
35:23
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about white people. I'm talking
35:24
Speaker 1: about people in my color had the same stereotype. How
35:27
Speaker 1: did you start breaking down those walls before people understood
35:31
Speaker 1: your story? You know, thank you? The walls is you
35:39
Speaker 1: have to have a understanding that walls six time to break. However,
35:44
Speaker 1: you cannot let anybody uh guard your wall, and you
35:51
Speaker 1: have to take those down immediately. I think for me
35:54
Speaker 1: it was being very clear on what has been to offer.
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Speaker 1: And what I mean is that when I when we
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Speaker 1: first started, when I approached retailers, I was coming from
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Speaker 1: a place of these what you need. It's not about
36:11
Speaker 1: what Africa needs, These are what America needs. And that's
36:14
Speaker 1: a very different approach because for for for a long
36:19
Speaker 1: time with view as beggars and needing as opposed to
36:24
Speaker 1: be viewed as those that can contribute to overall humanity
36:28
Speaker 1: around the world from civilizations, uh and even to today.
36:31
Speaker 1: So that that fundamental that's important because it's psychological. When
36:35
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36:38
Speaker 1: and what you can offer the America, I think people
36:41
Speaker 1: pay attention. Uh. And also when you're very clear what
36:46
Speaker 1: you can engage your own community with, right, because you're
36:49
Speaker 1: facing a community here in America, but how do you
36:51
Speaker 1: engage your own community. One of those two things are
36:53
Speaker 1: very clear, I think it becomes a little bit easier
36:56
Speaker 1: to break those walls. But it was interesting when you
36:59
Speaker 1: look at my life, you know, I've been A've been
37:02
Speaker 1: a Negro, I've been recognized as a black person and
37:06
Speaker 1: then an African American, and so so that's the name
37:09
Speaker 1: journey that I've been involved in. The African American ties
37:13
Speaker 1: me back to where I've come from, which I feel
37:15
Speaker 1: blessed to be able to have a place that I
37:17
Speaker 1: came from. Because when you come over ownership and you're
37:21
Speaker 1: in you're based on slavery, you gotta have a real route,
37:24
Speaker 1: because slavery is not a route, It's not a base.
37:26
Speaker 1: And and I have to say this, what impact do
37:29
Speaker 1: you feel that they're having at that base? Because you
37:32
Speaker 1: have a home, you know, you have a recognizable home,
37:35
Speaker 1: talk to you know, the the basis is uh fundamental,
37:44
Speaker 1: Uh because essentially, if you look at what I'm doing
37:50
Speaker 1: is really shame the base of the world. Because I
37:55
Speaker 1: have a base, I'm able to say, culturally, be is
38:00
Speaker 1: what we have to offer, and cultually these a knowledge
38:03
Speaker 1: that we have and by sharing that with you, you
38:05
Speaker 1: can be healthier. So I think it is a multi
38:08
Speaker 1: magnitude level when you do have a base, and and
38:12
Speaker 1: that's something I'm quite grateful for to have that base.
38:16
Speaker 1: Beauty and grooming you can't go wrong with that. You know,
38:19
Speaker 1: everybody wants to look good, especially in the African American community. UM.
38:23
Speaker 1: I have suc sisters, so I know a little bit
38:25
Speaker 1: of thing about watching women look good and groom themselves
38:27
Speaker 1: on the regular basis. I used to watch my mom
38:30
Speaker 1: in the kitchen pull out that hot iron and I
38:33
Speaker 1: don't know if it was I don't know if it
38:34
Speaker 1: was a pain uh walk of pain for my sisters,
38:37
Speaker 1: but guess what they experienced. It put that gye in
38:40
Speaker 1: the hair and burned half the hair out. And you know,
38:42
Speaker 1: and so but that was the price that black women
38:45
Speaker 1: paid to look good. And then you come along with
38:48
Speaker 1: products that I like to say female friendly from a
38:51
Speaker 1: stand up, how you care for one another? What led
38:55
Speaker 1: you down that path of beauty and grooming? It was
39:00
Speaker 1: is in the matter of of a choice. And you know,
39:03
Speaker 1: this is really what it's important to understand about love.
39:06
Speaker 1: Yet they needs a vehicle for equality, is a vehicle
39:11
Speaker 1: for justice. And so when you are set up your
39:15
Speaker 1: life to fight for equology, you have to use the
39:19
Speaker 1: tools that you have and that can give you the
39:21
Speaker 1: maximum return in these case. For for me is understanding
39:26
Speaker 1: that we have shared butter and we don't how to
39:28
Speaker 1: make share about that and share butter is used in
39:31
Speaker 1: the personal care. So it was, it was it was
39:34
Speaker 1: a logical path to take. Now I love for you.
39:39
Speaker 1: What is shape butter? I'm gonna ask you that I
39:41
Speaker 1: see a lot and I aver there in my house.
39:43
Speaker 1: What where did they come from? And who you know?
39:48
Speaker 1: What magic rock did? It? Did somebody discovered? Because shape
39:51
Speaker 1: butter is taking over the world. Man, Come on, y'all
39:54
Speaker 1: talk to me brother, yes, yes, yes, well you know
39:58
Speaker 1: the uh here's the thing, the the ship butter. As
40:03
Speaker 1: as we know, we need to go back to share treats,
40:06
Speaker 1: right those indigenous trees that can only be found in
40:10
Speaker 1: the savanna of West Africa and as the time can remember,
40:14
Speaker 1: for tens of thousands of years, that's what the people
40:17
Speaker 1: of West Africa use either for cooking, for the hair,
40:21
Speaker 1: for the body, you name it. So this is really
40:24
Speaker 1: entertwined with our way of presenting beduty and and culture.
40:30
Speaker 1: But you know the share butter that you do see
40:32
Speaker 1: around the world today, as we know, African resources don't
40:36
Speaker 1: benefit Africa or African descent. So yes, share but as
40:39
Speaker 1: everywhere in the world. But what we're trying to do
40:43
Speaker 1: is to engage with the communities in the way that
40:46
Speaker 1: it provided in direct economic benefits and obviously, as you mentioned,
40:50
Speaker 1: as we started to contribute back to the community. But
40:53
Speaker 1: what is the shap butter itself in this case, I
40:56
Speaker 1: want to talk about unrefined ship But because the majority
41:00
Speaker 1: of the share butters uh, they see the marketplace go
41:02
Speaker 1: to a refined process that does not have all the
41:05
Speaker 1: healing property that should so everybody it is is a
41:09
Speaker 1: fact essentially, uh from Mascha Tree. And it really is
41:15
Speaker 1: a very unique type of five because see, when you
41:18
Speaker 1: have you exposed to harsh environment or direct sunlight, you
41:23
Speaker 1: need to be able to protect the layers of your skin.
41:26
Speaker 1: And Share but is known throughout history to be one
41:28
Speaker 1: of those protectors. Now, the reason I bring that up
41:32
Speaker 1: because you know, we see something that you know, start
41:36
Speaker 1: to dominate the store, start to dominate the beauty line,
41:39
Speaker 1: the talk of conversation, just like black soap, it's a
41:42
Speaker 1: dominant force. And grooming. Now, how did these two become
41:47
Speaker 1: such a major player or a game changing I like,
41:50
Speaker 1: let's use the word game changer beauty and grooming not
41:54
Speaker 1: only for women but also for me because I used
41:56
Speaker 1: the black soap. Yes, you know I I think it
42:01
Speaker 1: really goes back to the bigger change that's happened around
42:06
Speaker 1: around us in the world. Uh. And here we're talking
42:09
Speaker 1: about America. We're talking about health. But if you look
42:12
Speaker 1: the revolution of organic movement uh and people wanting healthy product.
42:19
Speaker 1: I really think it's correlate any linked to these and
42:22
Speaker 1: when you see there are very million ingredients in the
42:25
Speaker 1: world like you share but that have all the ars
42:29
Speaker 1: healing properties and just in one thing that could do
42:31
Speaker 1: all these different things that's come from ultra natural source
42:36
Speaker 1: and the entries a wild It can't be more natural
42:39
Speaker 1: than that. You don't have to ferilize, you, you're not
42:41
Speaker 1: to bother them, you don't have to put the chemicals
42:43
Speaker 1: on them. So I think it's really correlated to the
42:46
Speaker 1: fact that the people around the world today want to
42:50
Speaker 1: be have healthier options and and then it happened that
42:54
Speaker 1: they share But is of a of a natural source
42:57
Speaker 1: is giving that attention. But I do think though, uh
43:02
Speaker 1: whild we see a lots of ship but the and
43:04
Speaker 1: and is in the dominant places. We really should be
43:09
Speaker 1: having the conversation how these fundamental African is ingredients is
43:15
Speaker 1: empowering the people of Africa African descent. Now, with that
43:18
Speaker 1: being said, because part of your I guess a narrative
43:22
Speaker 1: or initiatives of your company mandate is giving back. It's
43:26
Speaker 1: about the reforestation, talking about maternal healthcare, which we all
43:30
Speaker 1: know even in America that's a major need. So I
43:32
Speaker 1: want to go to each one of them separately so
43:34
Speaker 1: we can discuss and have an extended conversation. I want
43:37
Speaker 1: to blow up because let's talk about first, which I
43:39
Speaker 1: think is important is maternal healthcare because a lot of
43:43
Speaker 1: people take for granted, you know, could they see a
43:45
Speaker 1: child being born, but a lot of children aren't brought,
43:48
Speaker 1: don't go for a term, and and the situation leads
43:51
Speaker 1: to a lot of sadness and also conlude to suicides
43:54
Speaker 1: depending on that situation. So let's talk about the maternal
43:57
Speaker 1: healthcare and your company's initiative, especial when it comes to
44:00
Speaker 1: ginger equality, gender equality. Thank you. I mean life in
44:07
Speaker 1: general requires us to be devoted to day for the
44:14
Speaker 1: well being of being a child to this world. Uh.
44:17
Speaker 1: And you know when we started the conversation and we
44:20
Speaker 1: talked about the wing which I was brought up with
44:23
Speaker 1: se seven sibling in a very small space. When you
44:27
Speaker 1: grew up in that poverty, what you witness this woman
44:30
Speaker 1: dying given birth, I lost systems myself. But when they're
44:35
Speaker 1: trying to bring life to this earth, so it's something
44:38
Speaker 1: that's really personal to me and become an adult and
44:42
Speaker 1: having a laugh, Yeah, it just makes sense from my
44:46
Speaker 1: heart that laugh here needs to be devoted in contributing
44:49
Speaker 1: to reducing the unnecessary death of a woman by trying
44:53
Speaker 1: to bring life. But there's something more even more fundamental
44:56
Speaker 1: or equally important. That has to do with a canal mix. Right.
45:01
Speaker 1: We when we talk about gender quality, I'm really talk
45:04
Speaker 1: about economic quality for our women. And what that means
45:10
Speaker 1: to me is that if we do not invest in
45:12
Speaker 1: maternal health and we lose the mothers, what happened is
45:16
Speaker 1: that the child, the older child is likely to drop
45:20
Speaker 1: our school, the young girls likely to drop our school.
45:23
Speaker 1: So for and and when we continue to have just
45:26
Speaker 1: a high drop our rate, the cycle of poverty never breaks, right,
45:31
Speaker 1: and the poverty to continue. The more the poverty to continue,
45:34
Speaker 1: the more inequality or gender card to continue. So for me,
45:37
Speaker 1: in order to break the cycle, we need the modest
45:40
Speaker 1: to be alive so that the children can continue to
45:43
Speaker 1: go to school. So to answer that question, one is
45:46
Speaker 1: just a moral thing to do. One sixteen woman today
45:50
Speaker 1: in Subian Africa would die trying to bring life to
45:53
Speaker 1: the earth. And the second party is a part of
45:56
Speaker 1: the long term um UH process of breaking psycho poverty
46:01
Speaker 1: by investings so that our women can be that and
46:05
Speaker 1: our children to going to school. Yeah, Mr Charlotte, the
46:08
Speaker 1: reason I wanted to transition start with that because we
46:11
Speaker 1: used the word consistent in your first conversation with maternal health.
46:14
Speaker 1: There the word poverty, and poverty is always tied I
46:18
Speaker 1: think a lot to education, and because if you don't
46:21
Speaker 1: give a shot, you don't have a clear understanding of
46:23
Speaker 1: the opportunity. And that's what education gives you. I would
46:25
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, education is why you're not having
46:28
Speaker 1: this conversation. You know, I come from the inner city.
46:31
Speaker 1: I come from my father's truck driver, my third grade education,
46:35
Speaker 1: my mom graduated high school, six sisters, two brothers, you know,
46:38
Speaker 1: so all those elements without education means I may not
46:42
Speaker 1: be here. So education saved me a foothold to be
46:45
Speaker 1: able to have a conversation through opportunity, opportunity to give
46:48
Speaker 1: me a chance to say goals. You said goals, then
46:51
Speaker 1: you become a person who can commit it to an effort,
46:53
Speaker 1: a plan of action. We're trying to get that. So
46:56
Speaker 1: when I saw education, I really was excited because I went,
46:59
Speaker 1: he gets it. It gets it because you can give
47:01
Speaker 1: people the money to for food, you get people money
47:05
Speaker 1: for housing. But if you don't really understand that education
47:09
Speaker 1: can If you give it to education, they can buy
47:12
Speaker 1: their food, they can supply their own housing, and so
47:17
Speaker 1: so that's it. Is a dignity right that nobody wants
47:20
Speaker 1: to hand out right. Uh, But but we can give
47:23
Speaker 1: a hand to each other and an education. Uh. Portunity
47:27
Speaker 1: is a form of giving hands so that a person
47:29
Speaker 1: can stand. And I think dignity is very important as
47:34
Speaker 1: a human being. How we view ourselves and I will
47:36
Speaker 1: conduct ourselves and I would go through life. I'm gonna
47:39
Speaker 1: ask you this, sir. You know, stereotype could we started
47:42
Speaker 1: out the beginning and just be on I spect probably
47:46
Speaker 1: a month in Durban, South Africa, and Steve Harvey now
47:51
Speaker 1: went over to the broadcast, and I swear to you
47:54
Speaker 1: I didn't have a clue on where we could possibly
47:56
Speaker 1: broadcast because in my mind, based on information has been
47:59
Speaker 1: given me, there was not a modern city in Africa
48:03
Speaker 1: period stereotypes And when I and and when I landed,
48:08
Speaker 1: I was ashamed of my lack of education. I landed
48:12
Speaker 1: in South Africa, saw these beautiful black people. Then we
48:15
Speaker 1: drove down to Derban. It was it looked like I
48:16
Speaker 1: was landing in Atlanta, Georgia. It was like I was
48:19
Speaker 1: living in Atlanta, Georgia. But yes, you know, doesn't that
48:23
Speaker 1: anger you? The stereotypes, the blind information that is being
48:27
Speaker 1: distributed and I have to say propaganda, but clearly you
48:33
Speaker 1: know it not it is more than the anger, because
48:38
Speaker 1: what it does is that A doesn't allowed for the
48:42
Speaker 1: world to to truly appreciate um who we are. And
48:49
Speaker 1: I think it is by design. Is A is a
48:53
Speaker 1: process that's not new to you is divide and conquer.
48:56
Speaker 1: And you can divide when you can divide the mind
48:58
Speaker 1: and pollute the mind, and then you can conquer the people. Uh.
49:02
Speaker 1: And the conquering of the people today is not like
49:05
Speaker 1: you have to miss up with them changing just about
49:08
Speaker 1: their mind. And I think that what that also does
49:13
Speaker 1: he continued to lead to these well of thinking resources
49:19
Speaker 1: cheaply from Africa because well, they don't really need it.
49:23
Speaker 1: We need it, so that I think there's there's a
49:25
Speaker 1: reason behind It's not by accident. But when you understand
49:29
Speaker 1: that and and and for me is to try to
49:32
Speaker 1: break it, you start to talk about the wall. You
49:35
Speaker 1: have to break them down. You have to engage directly, uh,
49:38
Speaker 1: with the world. You have to engage directly to the
49:41
Speaker 1: global market. And that's why you know, because I went
49:45
Speaker 1: out always like to have honest conversations with my interviews
49:49
Speaker 1: that I have because it's an education for me. And
49:52
Speaker 1: I remember when I went down to Durban, you know,
49:54
Speaker 1: I was down there, I found myself looking for property
49:57
Speaker 1: to buy. I was so I loved so it never
50:00
Speaker 1: and so and my wife said, calm down, calm down.
50:04
Speaker 1: You don't know when you're gonna go back. You because
50:10
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, you know, it's like opening up
50:11
Speaker 1: a gift, you know, and you don't know what's inside
50:13
Speaker 1: the gift. When you pull it out, you go. You
50:15
Speaker 1: want to keep looking aside for more of that gift.
50:17
Speaker 1: And that was my experience. And so when I hear
50:19
Speaker 1: things like reforestation, that means that you're concerned about you know,
50:24
Speaker 1: how your country looks and how if you don't take
50:28
Speaker 1: care of it, guess what it becomes a desert. And
50:30
Speaker 1: so talk about that the article culture, the importance of that,
50:34
Speaker 1: and because all this ties back to the bigger plan
50:37
Speaker 1: of what you're doing with your brand, and I want
50:40
Speaker 1: to support it. I want to promote it because of
50:42
Speaker 1: the fact that it's about changing through education, changing and
50:47
Speaker 1: removing a poverty culture from people, and also letting them
50:52
Speaker 1: understand they gotta take care of where they live, they
50:54
Speaker 1: gotta take care of your house. It's like if you
50:56
Speaker 1: know what's saying, it's a child. If you go in
50:58
Speaker 1: your house and you need the doors wide open, somebody
51:00
Speaker 1: gonna come in and stay. It's just taken comself gonta.
51:03
Speaker 1: And so the same thing in your country. You don't
51:05
Speaker 1: take care of your country, You don't take care of
51:07
Speaker 1: your forge, You don't replenish your the ground that you
51:10
Speaker 1: want food to come out of, guess what it's going
51:13
Speaker 1: to die. And that's that has to be a passion
51:15
Speaker 1: for you. That's really emotionally leads you every day down
51:19
Speaker 1: your path of what you want to do with your brain. Definitely,
51:23
Speaker 1: you know the because in order to achieve these uh,
51:30
Speaker 1: this mission uh and this really is a mission of
51:33
Speaker 1: self respect and respect to people, you have to have
51:38
Speaker 1: a comprehensive approach. You can't simply just do maternal care
51:43
Speaker 1: or you can't simply build schools and not think about
51:47
Speaker 1: your environment. But I think it really goes down to
51:51
Speaker 1: you again about poverty right we today. When when I
51:56
Speaker 1: first came to the States, people will say you come
51:59
Speaker 1: from a dongle and and the fact that is that
52:02
Speaker 1: we used to have a lot of trees, We used
52:04
Speaker 1: to have a lots of jungles, but lots of it
52:06
Speaker 1: have been mowed down. And what we do know now
52:10
Speaker 1: is that when you cut it, you cut all those
52:13
Speaker 1: trees down, then the top soil gets wash away with
52:17
Speaker 1: what's called erosion. And when you have so much erosion,
52:22
Speaker 1: you lose all the nutrients from the top soil. And
52:25
Speaker 1: when you lose all the nutrient, the topsail gets wash away.
52:28
Speaker 1: Increase in ability, inability to grow food, and when you
52:32
Speaker 1: don't have food will happened at least to farm it.
52:33
Speaker 1: And when you're hungry, you can't learn, you can't go
52:35
Speaker 1: to school. Ok. So, the the the environment and planting trees,
52:40
Speaker 1: while i've here, is fundamental way that we feel that
52:45
Speaker 1: in nydirect way that leads to reduction of poverty. You know,
52:50
Speaker 1: it's really uh first, were hopefully enjoying the conversation here
52:54
Speaker 1: because it's a it's about my view and my unique
52:59
Speaker 1: experience of going to a country being called an African
53:02
Speaker 1: American and being recognized as a leader in this country,
53:06
Speaker 1: but also be after you acknowledge a hard level of ignorance.
53:10
Speaker 1: And so you know, when you when you're trying to
53:13
Speaker 1: get financing for your business, did you run it the
53:15
Speaker 1: stereotypes there? Well, I think that's a common place, right,
53:24
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because people like us and yourself, you
53:30
Speaker 1: when you grew up in the way we'll grow up.
53:33
Speaker 1: You're not gonna go to diet your mom and say
53:36
Speaker 1: can you give monthy started like you by the by
53:40
Speaker 1: the minute that you can put your own belt on,
53:42
Speaker 1: you have you're taking care of They died in the moment, right,
53:46
Speaker 1: so you are on your own. And when you're on
53:49
Speaker 1: your own and you can't give money from family, which
53:52
Speaker 1: many people do when they start business. Uh and on
53:55
Speaker 1: top of it, being a black man, uh so is
54:00
Speaker 1: the mountains high? But again you can climbate. You have
54:04
Speaker 1: to try, You have to, you have to give it
54:06
Speaker 1: all you got. And we were turned down many times,
54:10
Speaker 1: to the point where I scanned in the bank and
54:11
Speaker 1: it's I won't go home. I was surprised. I wasn't arrested,
54:14
Speaker 1: right that this I need to get this loan, and
54:17
Speaker 1: I believe this loan will help American and it will
54:20
Speaker 1: help my community, so I can start the social enterprise.
54:23
Speaker 1: And you don't, you don't give up. But you know
54:26
Speaker 1: what I also learned very quickly is that people in
54:30
Speaker 1: America is not going to give you what you need,
54:34
Speaker 1: and we we did end up getting a small loan
54:37
Speaker 1: after so much perfect perseverance. But what I did to
54:41
Speaker 1: this day is to work around the clock. Let let
54:45
Speaker 1: my sweater become that money and generate the funds as
54:49
Speaker 1: well as we grow. But we all also know that
54:52
Speaker 1: without UH capital is difficult, difficult to grow at the
54:57
Speaker 1: way that you need to grow. Absolutely. You know. It's
55:00
Speaker 1: really interesting because I always tell people there are twenty
55:03
Speaker 1: four hours in the day. Learn to take advantage of
55:05
Speaker 1: each hour. And that seems to be the principle that
55:08
Speaker 1: you run your career. Because it was a question that
55:10
Speaker 1: was sitting over to me and says, what advice would
55:12
Speaker 1: you give someone wanting to pursue a career similar to yours?
55:15
Speaker 1: And I saw that converge. I said, there's nothing similar
55:19
Speaker 1: to yours. You know. You know, your philanthropers, your businessman,
55:22
Speaker 1: you're you care, you, you remember, you, you feel, you
55:28
Speaker 1: feel pain, you know. And I say that. I feel
55:31
Speaker 1: like I say that because it's really interesting when people
55:34
Speaker 1: look at successful people and I can send you a
55:35
Speaker 1: successful person and and I'm quite blassed and grateful, you know,
55:40
Speaker 1: and and and in that blessing process, it lends itself
55:44
Speaker 1: to go, how can I do more? And you know
55:46
Speaker 1: you can do so much, you know what I'm saying.
55:48
Speaker 1: And and also when you fighting stereotypes, you fight ignorance,
55:51
Speaker 1: You fight impoverished conditions that you can't change, generational ignorance,
55:56
Speaker 1: generational poverty. You know, So when I hear that question,
56:00
Speaker 1: your career isn't similar because you're unique and unique the
56:04
Speaker 1: fact that you want to create change because a lot
56:07
Speaker 1: of people just walk away, they go, hey, man, that's
56:10
Speaker 1: why I used to live You know, I'm saying. You're
56:13
Speaker 1: not saying that. You're saying, Look, no, I used to
56:15
Speaker 1: live there, and I still go back there, and I
56:17
Speaker 1: want to build up. I want to grab as many
56:19
Speaker 1: as I can. You know that that old that old
56:22
Speaker 1: you said that painting where somebody leans down with their
56:24
Speaker 1: hands to pull another brother up? You know that ship? What? What?
56:28
Speaker 1: What what created that? Driving you like that? Sir M Charlotte?
56:32
Speaker 1: You know, I uh, I was thinking really come from
56:36
Speaker 1: my mother. She she was an indented servant in neighboring
56:41
Speaker 1: country and and she she lost both her her parents
56:45
Speaker 1: when she was still a baby. So she she she
56:48
Speaker 1: worked in exchange for food their whole life. And I
56:50
Speaker 1: end up having us and having it off us and
56:54
Speaker 1: never want to be along again. But one thing that
56:57
Speaker 1: she made sure that we know once is to is
57:00
Speaker 1: to work hard, but move all is to be humble
57:04
Speaker 1: and serving. She felt that was how she survived and
57:07
Speaker 1: that's how we need. Those are the manas that we
57:10
Speaker 1: need to engage with. Uh and and shows she also
57:13
Speaker 1: help us understand that justice even in our small community
57:16
Speaker 1: or village that I think for me, I very early on,
57:21
Speaker 1: I have come to somehow believe on on duties and
57:26
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58:22
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Speaker 1: the real community. And we have two things. We have
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Speaker 1: and in the moral process and share of the world
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Speaker 1: because that process does many things. One it gives us
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59:26
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Speaker 1: the future when we have eight billion people on the earth. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Until so much of my life's were has been about
1:13:02
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1:13:07
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Speaker 1: So that's that's certainty right there. That's that's a certainty.
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1:14:21
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1:15:01
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1:15:13
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1:15:22
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1:15:26
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1:15:31
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1:15:36
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1:15:41
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1:15:44
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1:15:52
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1:15:56
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1:16:00
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1:16:04
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1:16:07
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1:16:11
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1:16:15
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1:16:19
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1:16:24
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1:16:28
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1:16:31
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1:16:36
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1:16:39
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1:16:42
Speaker 1: you die. And I when I looked at that dash,
1:16:46
Speaker 1: I said, you know, that's what I remember about my
1:16:49
Speaker 1: mom and my dad and my sweetheart, my husband. That's
1:16:53
Speaker 1: what I remember. It's that dash. That's what life's about.
1:16:57
Speaker 1: It's where the meaning takes place. And what was I
1:17:02
Speaker 1: gonna do about my dash? Was I just ready to
1:17:06
Speaker 1: give up? And that's really rashan. As I began to
1:17:10
Speaker 1: look at it and think about it, I slowly started
1:17:13
Speaker 1: to get off my knees, stand out and get back
1:17:18
Speaker 1: in the world because I found some meaning. And that's
1:17:21
Speaker 1: when I began to discover what for me with the
1:17:25
Speaker 1: secrets of um, you know, living a vibrant life. Let
1:17:31
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about that that that that
1:17:33
Speaker 1: old way, what is me? Lifestyle and mentality and coming
1:17:36
Speaker 1: out of that the little the little engine that could
1:17:39
Speaker 1: coming up that hill, you know, and then going over,
1:17:42
Speaker 1: you know, because what happens is when you're that old
1:17:44
Speaker 1: always mean you have a lot of tragedy, tragedy and
1:17:46
Speaker 1: tragedy in your life. A lot of people don't I
1:17:48
Speaker 1: talk to you, they know, they know they feel nerves
1:17:51
Speaker 1: by telling you to suck it up or come on down.
1:17:54
Speaker 1: You have a lot of life to give, so you
1:17:55
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of people around you that they
1:17:58
Speaker 1: can challenge you because know you in a state of
1:18:02
Speaker 1: sadness and they don't want to sound like they they
1:18:05
Speaker 1: are uh selfish by telling you you can you can
1:18:08
Speaker 1: move on? And so you saw the dash. What were
1:18:13
Speaker 1: everybody else saying around You're the family members, your friends
1:18:16
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. Yeah, everyone, And you know
1:18:19
Speaker 1: when you're in that state, everyone is so supportive or
1:18:23
Speaker 1: they try to be right. You tell you things like,
1:18:26
Speaker 1: you know, you've got a lot of life ahead of uh,
1:18:30
Speaker 1: move forward and you know, get over and even get
1:18:34
Speaker 1: over it or it's time to get over it. And
1:18:37
Speaker 1: you know, none of that helped me, None of that.
1:18:41
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't believe there's a timeline for grief,
1:18:46
Speaker 1: you know, I just really don't. And I had to
1:18:50
Speaker 1: discover me for me, in myself. And the first thing
1:18:56
Speaker 1: that in what I discovered for a secret for me
1:19:00
Speaker 1: that I discovered was I had to reconnect with my
1:19:04
Speaker 1: why so, my purpose, my raisin detra Why am I here?
1:19:10
Speaker 1: You know? Not about my husband and my parents and
1:19:13
Speaker 1: my children, my grandchildren, all the friends and family? Why me? Lord?
1:19:18
Speaker 1: Why me? You know what is it that you have
1:19:21
Speaker 1: for me, because I believe each of us has at
1:19:24
Speaker 1: least one unique gift or talent and finding that gift
1:19:30
Speaker 1: or talent and understanding your purpose. And as I began
1:19:35
Speaker 1: to reflect and really go deep, I rediscovered my purpose.
1:19:41
Speaker 1: I refound my why I'm living. And so that's one
1:19:46
Speaker 1: of the secrets I think to life at any age,
1:19:50
Speaker 1: and that is knowing your purpose, knowing why you here,
1:19:53
Speaker 1: why God put you here, what is it you supposed
1:19:56
Speaker 1: to do? And that's the thing that helps get me
1:20:00
Speaker 1: up every morning, gets me excited and to think about,
1:20:04
Speaker 1: you know, I'm fulfilling my meaning. And I rediscovered that,
1:20:10
Speaker 1: you know, God put me on this earth to inspire
1:20:13
Speaker 1: and teach and to help, particularly women over fifty who
1:20:18
Speaker 1: are in my same age category, to uh rediscover themselves
1:20:24
Speaker 1: and figure out their next steps because we're not done yet.
1:20:28
Speaker 1: And so rediscovering my why and my purpose really was
1:20:33
Speaker 1: the first big secret that I discovered. Well, you know
1:20:37
Speaker 1: now I want to go back on that sadness that
1:20:41
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a timeline of sadness. You have
1:20:43
Speaker 1: to learn how to just box it, put in a
1:20:45
Speaker 1: box and from apartmentalize it. Because of the fact that
1:20:49
Speaker 1: you know, I know when I when I think about death,
1:20:52
Speaker 1: I think about my parents, I think about my sister.
1:20:55
Speaker 1: You know, I might think about it a year from now.
1:20:58
Speaker 1: I might think about it on their birthday. I might
1:21:00
Speaker 1: think about it. So it's all right, Well we're talking
1:21:02
Speaker 1: about is compartmentalizing it so it doesn't dominate your everyday
1:21:06
Speaker 1: life moving forward, so it doesn't stop you from meeting people,
1:21:10
Speaker 1: stop you from movie, stopping you from getting the job,
1:21:13
Speaker 1: stopping you from saying, you know something, I want to
1:21:16
Speaker 1: be happy, hear me. Don't get that I want to
1:21:18
Speaker 1: be happy, and so what happens is and that that's
1:21:21
Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring Dr Geneva Williams on the show,
1:21:24
Speaker 1: is that it's about you know, this is how I speak.
1:21:26
Speaker 1: You know, I speak this way and I'm not trying
1:21:28
Speaker 1: to be younger than what I am. I'm just trying
1:21:30
Speaker 1: to be Rashwan McDonald. I don't worry about another birthday.
1:21:33
Speaker 1: I gotta have a birthday to accomplish my dreams. I
1:21:36
Speaker 1: don't lock myself to a certain age. I want to
1:21:38
Speaker 1: be thirty nine for rest of my life. I want
1:21:40
Speaker 1: to be fitting that. No, I want to be whatever
1:21:42
Speaker 1: age God allows me to be on that year, he says,
1:21:44
Speaker 1: my birthday, because I got gold I gotta put in place.
1:21:47
Speaker 1: And so when I saw a video of you, I said,
1:21:49
Speaker 1: this is my girl. I gotta bring home my show
1:21:51
Speaker 1: because she she's not restricting the steps of opportunity tied
1:21:55
Speaker 1: to the age that she's assigned to that year. That's
1:21:58
Speaker 1: a beautiful part of your personality. Where did that come from?
1:22:03
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I think it came from my
1:22:08
Speaker 1: started with my parents because they were activist way into
1:22:13
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties. You know, my I started writing
1:22:18
Speaker 1: my book with my dad when he was one and
1:22:24
Speaker 1: we were to publish it together. So, you know, I
1:22:27
Speaker 1: interviewed him about all the things he went through, all
1:22:30
Speaker 1: his trials and tribulations, the historic U landmark civil rights
1:22:35
Speaker 1: case he won and took all the way to the
1:22:37
Speaker 1: Supreme Court New Jersey and changed housing discrimination laws in
1:22:42
Speaker 1: New Jersey forever. And we talked about all of that.
1:22:44
Speaker 1: We did that together. Now he passed before the book
1:22:48
Speaker 1: was published, but he did read the final manuscript and
1:22:52
Speaker 1: said it was good. But that was like nineties, and
1:22:55
Speaker 1: and my mom, I think left in her late eighties.
1:22:58
Speaker 1: And but they always. But you know, Rashan, it really
1:23:03
Speaker 1: wasn't about the chronological age. What it really was was
1:23:09
Speaker 1: their mindset and and what they felt in their heart
1:23:13
Speaker 1: and their purpose. Uh. And that's what I discovered that
1:23:18
Speaker 1: it really is about my purpose and my motivation and
1:23:22
Speaker 1: continuing to give, you know, those gifts, and that compartmentalization
1:23:28
Speaker 1: you talk about, I think is right on for me.
1:23:31
Speaker 1: My compartment is my heart. So I keep you know,
1:23:36
Speaker 1: those who have gone on that you meant so much
1:23:40
Speaker 1: to me in my heart and so they'll always be there.
1:23:44
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to get rid of them at all.
1:23:47
Speaker 1: Those they've got to be in your heart. And you
1:23:49
Speaker 1: know what, Rashan, we have to laugh about the good times.
1:23:52
Speaker 1: And one of the things I do is I pull
1:23:54
Speaker 1: out the albums all the time. I consider myself an
1:23:58
Speaker 1: amateur photographer, so I have thousandsons of pictures. I ain't
1:24:02
Speaker 1: in none of them, okay, because I'm always so busy
1:24:06
Speaker 1: taking over. But I pull out my albums and I'll laugh,
1:24:10
Speaker 1: sometimes i'll cry, but I reflect and we live those
1:24:15
Speaker 1: good times, those moments, Rashan. And that's why I think
1:24:19
Speaker 1: it's important to have those moments um to live because
1:24:24
Speaker 1: we all are going to get out of here one day. Okay,
1:24:29
Speaker 1: what we do while we're here that dash, my friend,
1:24:35
Speaker 1: you're not hitting, you're not you're not tweeting a mission
1:24:37
Speaker 1: or another of This interview right now got me popped up,
1:24:40
Speaker 1: as usual, because when it's from a from a gender standpoint,
1:24:44
Speaker 1: I'm a man, your woman, and they have different rules
1:24:47
Speaker 1: in the play, and they have different rules and play
1:24:49
Speaker 1: for African Americans. Okay, and so leadership. You know, you're
1:24:54
Speaker 1: an attractive woman. Some people can diminish your success because
1:24:57
Speaker 1: you're attracted, you know. And then that's a sad part
1:25:00
Speaker 1: about sexism. But in the end, if you have somebody
1:25:05
Speaker 1: who's fifty, they confused. They you know, they don't they
1:25:08
Speaker 1: look in the mirror, they don't like the way they're
1:25:10
Speaker 1: seeing in the mirror. They don't like the people around them.
1:25:12
Speaker 1: What advice do you get for people who are stuck?
1:25:16
Speaker 1: Let's use the word stuck, because a lot of people
1:25:19
Speaker 1: listen to this interview are stuck. We want to get
1:25:22
Speaker 1: them unstuck. And I'm gonna tell you something, we are
1:25:24
Speaker 1: not on the way you pull yourself from an unstuck position.
1:25:27
Speaker 1: You have to want to make change. Exactly if you
1:25:32
Speaker 1: don't want to make change. You think this is the lottery.
1:25:35
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you gotta want to make change. I
1:25:37
Speaker 1: do want to set that little, that little qualified before
1:25:40
Speaker 1: you get started. You're absolutely right, and you have to
1:25:44
Speaker 1: put sweat equity into what it is you. You got
1:25:49
Speaker 1: to do that, okay. You know. One of the things
1:25:53
Speaker 1: that I say the folks in terms of the secrets
1:25:57
Speaker 1: that I found, is to make a plan. You gotta
1:26:02
Speaker 1: have a game plan. What is it you're gonna do
1:26:04
Speaker 1: with your life? You know? So you know, let's assume
1:26:08
Speaker 1: you you you you know what your purpose is, You've
1:26:10
Speaker 1: discovered your why, you understand why you're here, what it
1:26:14
Speaker 1: is you want to do, what your talents are. Okay,
1:26:17
Speaker 1: then what you're gonna do with it? So that's making
1:26:19
Speaker 1: a plan, you know, whether you think it in your
1:26:22
Speaker 1: head or write it down. Though writing it down, you know,
1:26:24
Speaker 1: writing it down helps you see it and achieve it better.
1:26:28
Speaker 1: That's what all the research says. But I understand if
1:26:30
Speaker 1: you just want to keep it in your head and
1:26:32
Speaker 1: think about it. But the best thing to do is
1:26:35
Speaker 1: figure out what your goals are, what it is you know,
1:26:38
Speaker 1: you've got this vision of your life that you want
1:26:40
Speaker 1: to be, which is first step, figure out what it
1:26:42
Speaker 1: is you want your life to be and then decide, well,
1:26:47
Speaker 1: how am I going to get there? So those are
1:26:49
Speaker 1: your goals, and then how am I going to reach
1:26:51
Speaker 1: those goals? That's your action steps, and then what am
1:26:54
Speaker 1: I gonna do it? That's your timeline. Well, when you
1:26:57
Speaker 1: finish putting together a vision, a goal, some action steps
1:27:01
Speaker 1: in the timeline, you got yourself a plan and then
1:27:04
Speaker 1: do it. And so one of the things that I
1:27:08
Speaker 1: found is you gotta have a plan. And it's your plan.
1:27:11
Speaker 1: It's not your uncle's or your aunts or your scouse is.
1:27:14
Speaker 1: It's your plan. And come on, let's do it. Get
1:27:19
Speaker 1: that game plan together. Uh, you know, male, female, black, white,
1:27:24
Speaker 1: have a game plan and that you know, and it's
1:27:27
Speaker 1: your plan, and be willing to switch it up or
1:27:31
Speaker 1: change it if you need to. You know, if people
1:27:34
Speaker 1: say to me, um, sometimes well I don't know what
1:27:37
Speaker 1: to do. You know, I don't feel I'm I'm really
1:27:40
Speaker 1: done anything. I'm stuck, you know that that kind of thing.
1:27:44
Speaker 1: One of the tips I give folk when they feel
1:27:47
Speaker 1: that way is to, uh, make a list of your accomplishments. Rashan,
1:27:53
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, if you living and breathing,
1:27:56
Speaker 1: and if you're listening to us, have this conversation. In
1:28:00
Speaker 1: your life, you've accomplished something, probably a whole lot of somethings,
1:28:05
Speaker 1: and so one of the things, pull out that piece
1:28:08
Speaker 1: of paper and write down all of the things you've
1:28:13
Speaker 1: account all your successes. What have you done? When you
1:28:17
Speaker 1: sit back, I'm guaranteed you sit back and look at
1:28:21
Speaker 1: that list, You're gonna say, but you know that's important
1:28:25
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But you know what I'm saying, here's
1:28:28
Speaker 1: something that absolutely it always saying. It's like in my life.
1:28:32
Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of people have qualifiers on success.
1:28:35
Speaker 1: You know, they they look at Lebron James and that
1:28:39
Speaker 1: might be successful to them. You have to look at
1:28:42
Speaker 1: your competition. I mean, when I was building Steve Harvey's
1:28:44
Speaker 1: a social media I put this competition that was that
1:28:47
Speaker 1: was close to him. I didn't go way up there,
1:28:50
Speaker 1: there was way away. I started close to him and
1:28:52
Speaker 1: started setting his goals in social media and we started
1:28:55
Speaker 1: passing them as we were along the way. Now, if
1:28:58
Speaker 1: I just said this goal four or five million away
1:29:00
Speaker 1: instead of fifty thousand away, then guess what it would
1:29:03
Speaker 1: look seem insurmountable. And so when you start talking about
1:29:06
Speaker 1: goal setting, said, goals that are reachable. I always talked
1:29:11
Speaker 1: about nay day goals. I don't talk about years. Well,
1:29:14
Speaker 1: you know, that's why a lot of people don't go
1:29:16
Speaker 1: to college because they see here here four years. It
1:29:19
Speaker 1: just knocks him out on the four years. Uh, I
1:29:22
Speaker 1: can't catch comm into something like four years. That's why
1:29:24
Speaker 1: people go to trade schools. And I'm not knocking that
1:29:27
Speaker 1: because they see a shorter turn turnaround. But always no
1:29:31
Speaker 1: set a goal that you feel comfortable with and reaching.
1:29:35
Speaker 1: And that's what she's saying about planning a lot of
1:29:38
Speaker 1: people playing success, but they don't planning it with a goal,
1:29:40
Speaker 1: a reachable goal, and know that it's you always treated
1:29:45
Speaker 1: like a steps on the ladder. Each steps kiss you higher,
1:29:49
Speaker 1: each steps gets you higher. You don't want to jump
1:29:51
Speaker 1: steps on the ladder. You might fall off exactly exactly.
1:29:57
Speaker 1: And so that's what you know. Be have realistic goals,
1:30:02
Speaker 1: goals that make sense that you can touch and reach,
1:30:05
Speaker 1: and goals that you know that you've reached success when
1:30:10
Speaker 1: you've completed that. Sometimes we set these vague goals and
1:30:15
Speaker 1: we don't really even know when we reached them. And
1:30:18
Speaker 1: so I always tell folks when you're setting goals, um,
1:30:22
Speaker 1: speaking in the present and the now and speaking in
1:30:27
Speaker 1: positive terms like you know, um, you know, I want
1:30:32
Speaker 1: to lose fifty pounds. Okay, that's too vague. It really
1:30:37
Speaker 1: doesn't say much, doesn't talk about when or what have you.
1:30:40
Speaker 1: But you can say, Brad said, stated in the positive terms.
1:30:45
Speaker 1: I am my ideal weight. You know, it's a positive thing.
1:30:51
Speaker 1: So you've already put yourself in that future self that
1:30:57
Speaker 1: you want to be and you see yourself that way.
1:31:01
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta quit smoking. No, I'm a non smoker.
1:31:06
Speaker 1: So you claim it and say it for yourself and
1:31:10
Speaker 1: then begin to write down the action steps that will
1:31:13
Speaker 1: make that statement on a non smoker true. Absolutely when
1:31:19
Speaker 1: I when I think about it, when people, especially on
1:31:21
Speaker 1: weight loss, I always tell people just just pickle. I
1:31:25
Speaker 1: want to lose a pound of week. That's See. If
1:31:29
Speaker 1: you lose a pound of week, at the end of
1:31:30
Speaker 1: you lost fifty pounds. And so what if you say
1:31:32
Speaker 1: I want to lose fifty pounds, I'm like, oh, I'm
1:31:35
Speaker 1: gonna do that. But just to pound a week, a
1:31:37
Speaker 1: pound of week in your mind, that's what we're talking
1:31:40
Speaker 1: about a mindset. We're talking about how to relax your
1:31:44
Speaker 1: way into success. We're talking about not being overwhelmed by
1:31:48
Speaker 1: setting goals and planning things that feel unreachable because it
1:31:52
Speaker 1: came out of your mouth, which Shannon said. Another thing
1:31:59
Speaker 1: that I've learned through the years, and that is that
1:32:05
Speaker 1: one of the ways to continually be able to create
1:32:09
Speaker 1: possibilities and live a vibrant life at any age is
1:32:14
Speaker 1: to practice self care. You know, too often, particularly for women, Um,
1:32:21
Speaker 1: we get so busy in life trying to be successful,
1:32:25
Speaker 1: trying to you know, climb to the top all of
1:32:28
Speaker 1: those things that we forget to take care of ourselves
1:32:32
Speaker 1: and and and not. And I'm not talking about you know,
1:32:36
Speaker 1: making sure you get a massage every week, though that's good, now,
1:32:40
Speaker 1: now that that'd be good. Okay, that's if you can
1:32:43
Speaker 1: afford it, that's great. But you know, self care is
1:32:46
Speaker 1: about so many different aspects of your life. It deals
1:32:50
Speaker 1: with your social care, your physical care, your psychological care,
1:32:56
Speaker 1: your mental, your emotional even learning how to a no
1:33:01
Speaker 1: is a good way to practice self care, so that
1:33:05
Speaker 1: in fact, you're putting your needs your priorities first. So
1:33:09
Speaker 1: practicing uh, taking care of yourself, loving yourself the way
1:33:15
Speaker 1: that you should eliminating the negative self talk. You know,
1:33:19
Speaker 1: we be you know, talk all these things kind of
1:33:23
Speaker 1: run around in our mind about what we can't do,
1:33:25
Speaker 1: these limiting behaviors. You know, what we can't do, what
1:33:28
Speaker 1: we can't say, what we can't wear, what we shouldn't do,
1:33:31
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera. By the time we finished, you
1:33:33
Speaker 1: be exhausted. You know. So we need to reduce or
1:33:38
Speaker 1: eliminate the negative self talk. And that's part of taking
1:33:43
Speaker 1: care of yourself, that self care, that self love. That
1:33:47
Speaker 1: particularly during these times, as times are tough, as we're
1:33:52
Speaker 1: in pandemic, as you know, we're facing uncertainty UM an
1:33:57
Speaker 1: uncertainty that is going to the pandemic sean is going
1:34:00
Speaker 1: to end where it will move into something different, but
1:34:05
Speaker 1: uncertainty it's going to be with us always. You know,
1:34:10
Speaker 1: life is about ups and downs, That's what life is.
1:34:14
Speaker 1: And so learning how to embrace uncertainty, become a master
1:34:22
Speaker 1: of UM, having yourself developed, learning the tricks and tips
1:34:30
Speaker 1: to decrease worry and stress and focus on your goals.
1:34:35
Speaker 1: You know, those are things that we should develop. We
1:34:38
Speaker 1: should become masters of that. Pandemic or not because it
1:34:43
Speaker 1: will always be something that's in our lives that we're
1:34:46
Speaker 1: not going to be a hundred percent sure of. So hey,
1:34:51
Speaker 1: let's become those masters of being the best that we
1:34:56
Speaker 1: can be, being the most vibrant that we can be
1:34:59
Speaker 1: at an age. Thank you. She's a late she's a
1:35:03
Speaker 1: later life beautiful queen. I would say beautiful queen. I
1:35:05
Speaker 1: am saying I'm not gonna say beauty queen. Beautiful queen.
1:35:08
Speaker 1: She's a queen. She's an entrepreneur, online course creator. You know,
1:35:12
Speaker 1: the thing I love about you is that you don't
1:35:14
Speaker 1: let age stop you. And that's what I'm preaching now.
1:35:16
Speaker 1: I'm preaching that for even somebody twenty years old, don't
1:35:18
Speaker 1: let age stop you. Don't tell us somebody you're too
1:35:20
Speaker 1: young to accomplish that thirty years old, fourty years old,
1:35:23
Speaker 1: fifty and when you hit fifty and sixty, please stop
1:35:27
Speaker 1: it by saying that you can't accomplish your dreams because
1:35:29
Speaker 1: you're too old. As a message that she delivers on
1:35:31
Speaker 1: a daily basis, Dr Geneva Williams and Dr Geneva Williams,
1:35:35
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on Money Making conversation.
1:35:37
Speaker 1: On that one request, will you come back oh, I'd
1:35:41
Speaker 1: love to love you know. One of the things that
1:35:45
Speaker 1: I said is I, um, you know, celebrated my seventieth birthday.
1:35:50
Speaker 1: Was I'm going to be doing only those things that
1:35:55
Speaker 1: give me joy. Having a conversation with you and all
1:35:59
Speaker 1: the what you do to help other people brings me
1:36:03
Speaker 1: great joy. So it would be my pleasure come back
1:36:06
Speaker 1: and continue the conversation. We we're gonna do this annually. Okay,
1:36:10
Speaker 1: I'm gonna locked this date down because because my birthday
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1:40:01
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1:40:07
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Speaker 1: money making Conversations out of michicun my man, Corey Wilcox, Hey, Corey,
1:40:19
Speaker 1: what's going on? Well? I brought you on the show
1:40:21
Speaker 1: man because you know, I'm a guy who's never ever
1:40:26
Speaker 1: been able to understand the Rooper Q. And you come
1:40:30
Speaker 1: up with something similar in style called the Rodo brain,
1:40:33
Speaker 1: which is a three dimensional type, would enhances your memory,
1:40:37
Speaker 1: critical thinking skills, and would test your I Q. Well,
1:40:40
Speaker 1: you know my Q pretty high. What would the Rodeo
1:40:43
Speaker 1: brain do? And I'm not saying that out of ego.
1:40:45
Speaker 1: I got a math degree, my mind is and sociology,
1:40:48
Speaker 1: so I'm a logical person. But man, this Rodo brain
1:40:52
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna complicate my mind and my just
1:40:54
Speaker 1: it's my mind too over to embrace something like this
1:40:58
Speaker 1: just far a certain generational age. No, it's for it's
1:41:02
Speaker 1: for all generations. Uh, it's next level puzzle gaming. Um
1:41:06
Speaker 1: it's basically I took the idea from uh master combination
1:41:13
Speaker 1: lock right combination lock. I just figured, hey, I want
1:41:17
Speaker 1: to just make something cool from it, and I brought
1:41:20
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1:41:23
Speaker 1: master combination. I can I kind of combinding together and say, hey,
1:41:26
Speaker 1: let's make this happen. Okay, now the master's combination lock.
1:41:29
Speaker 1: You know that's that you know, you know to this way,
1:41:32
Speaker 1: this way, this way left to thirteen fifteen right, thirteen left,
1:41:39
Speaker 1: and then they are locked. That's the way that works.
1:41:42
Speaker 1: But that's just a lot. Now you have all these
1:41:45
Speaker 1: colors that you have to align on the rotor brain correct,
1:41:49
Speaker 1: similar to the rocks Q. So each each level has
1:41:52
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1:41:56
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1:41:59
Speaker 1: three of your combination possibilities, the second, the second row
1:42:03
Speaker 1: has about ten thousand possibilities right, and the third row
1:42:06
Speaker 1: has about sixty thousand possibilities. So as you saw beach
1:42:10
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1:42:12
Speaker 1: correct colors correct through combination colors, each level will pop
1:42:16
Speaker 1: up and say uh, level one complete, level to complete,
1:42:19
Speaker 1: Level three complete. Once you get done with the game,
1:42:22
Speaker 1: you can actually take it apart and and reset it
1:42:25
Speaker 1: and start your own code and give it to your friends,
1:42:28
Speaker 1: family member, and you can say hey, now you saw it,
1:42:31
Speaker 1: or you can even if you want to test yourself,
1:42:33
Speaker 1: you can reset the code and try to solve it again.
1:42:35
Speaker 1: Now we said reset the code. What does that mean
1:42:37
Speaker 1: because I want you to slow it down. We all
1:42:40
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1:42:42
Speaker 1: somebody hears this on podcast when you say the word
1:42:45
Speaker 1: reset the code. Because we're talking about the Road to
1:42:47
Speaker 1: Brain let me explain everybody with the Road to Brain is.
1:42:49
Speaker 1: It's a three D puzzle similar to the ruby que. Well,
1:42:53
Speaker 1: you know that enhances your memory because you gotta remember
1:42:55
Speaker 1: when you placed all these different colors to get them
1:42:57
Speaker 1: a line. Critical thinking skills and we'll test your i Q.
1:43:01
Speaker 1: The benefits of this rodal brain that when hans your thinking,
1:43:04
Speaker 1: improve your memory, your patients, that's my problem patients, problem
1:43:08
Speaker 1: solving skilled, keep your mind active and improve your speed,
1:43:12
Speaker 1: your finger dexterity, and agility. Now, this is an awesome way.
1:43:15
Speaker 1: As you always say, it's a conversation starter. Once you
1:43:18
Speaker 1: put it out on the table, when your adult and
1:43:21
Speaker 1: a kid, you're gonna pick it up. Correct. Actually I can, uh,
1:43:25
Speaker 1: I can take it down absolutely. Let's walk us through
1:43:27
Speaker 1: this gap. Now we're on video, okay, so I can
1:43:31
Speaker 1: take it down as I just want to show you
1:43:32
Speaker 1: because you say it's when you say, how you reset
1:43:35
Speaker 1: it and why you reset it? Sir? You take it apart.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: Actually has gears that go around. So these gears as
1:43:42
Speaker 1: a little knobs and you can actually set these knobs
1:43:46
Speaker 1: and they actually can set up the colors for you.
1:43:48
Speaker 1: And that's how you actually have the combination code where
1:43:51
Speaker 1: you can reset it and give it to friends and family. Right,
1:43:53
Speaker 1: So you can't I love this already because you're saying, Rashawn,
1:43:57
Speaker 1: you can. You can always change your channel, lunch, always yourself,
1:44:03
Speaker 1: challenge yourself. Okay, So now this goes back to how
1:44:07
Speaker 1: did this start? Which came first they gotta chicken? How
1:44:11
Speaker 1: did this whole thing lay itself out? Because to me,
1:44:14
Speaker 1: I'm still confused, not in the sect of the fact
1:44:17
Speaker 1: that this is not a talented toy or talented thinking
1:44:21
Speaker 1: the device. How you pulled it off. That's why I'm confused,
1:44:25
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1:44:30
Speaker 1: that really complicates my life but also simplifies it because
1:44:33
Speaker 1: you were able to pull it off. That's why you
1:44:35
Speaker 1: are who you are, and that's why I'm interviewing you.
1:44:41
Speaker 1: You know, I can give the background of the rotor
1:44:44
Speaker 1: brain is I was going through a very very very
1:44:48
Speaker 1: depressing time of my life because I'm in event for
1:44:50
Speaker 1: a very long time. Yes, sir, so I never really
1:44:54
Speaker 1: got any success from, you know, showing companies different toys
1:44:57
Speaker 1: and different products. So I had this. I'm just in
1:45:00
Speaker 1: a deep, deep place, in my deep dark place in
1:45:03
Speaker 1: my life, and I had a conversation with God and
1:45:06
Speaker 1: I sat there and prayed. I remember, I remember like
1:45:08
Speaker 1: it was yesterday, just like five years ago. I'm sitting
1:45:11
Speaker 1: in a dark room crying, like crying like somebody punched
1:45:14
Speaker 1: me in my face or something. And I had a
1:45:16
Speaker 1: conversation with God and I said, you know, God, if
1:45:18
Speaker 1: you can give me something that the impact and change
1:45:21
Speaker 1: the world, I tell everybody that you did it. And
1:45:25
Speaker 1: that's what happened. Then I had to do. That night,
1:45:28
Speaker 1: I had a dream the roller brain was kind of
1:45:30
Speaker 1: floating in my face, and my dream, I woke and
1:45:32
Speaker 1: I grabbed it. When I grabbed it, I woke up
1:45:35
Speaker 1: and I remember I bumped my wife and I said, hey,
1:45:37
Speaker 1: I think God just showed me something. She was like, man,
1:45:38
Speaker 1: I don't care about that without tabs, man. So I
1:45:44
Speaker 1: sketched it up, drew it up, and I came up
1:45:47
Speaker 1: with the rotor brain and it was no awesome experience.
1:45:51
Speaker 1: Now that's that. Now we all know about patents because
1:45:54
Speaker 1: how did that work out? How do you go through
1:45:55
Speaker 1: the pattent process? Did you hire a lawyer? Did you
1:45:58
Speaker 1: do it yourself? How did the pattent process has worked
1:46:00
Speaker 1: for you? Because you see a lot of people TV
1:46:02
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1:46:05
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1:46:09
Speaker 1: no no, So what you can do with people don't know.
1:46:11
Speaker 1: As long as if you make under a hundred fifty
1:46:13
Speaker 1: dollars a year, you can actually do a provisional pattern
1:46:16
Speaker 1: for sixty five dollars. So you go a provisional path
1:46:19
Speaker 1: six five dollars. It actually holds the patent for a year.
1:46:22
Speaker 1: So you can actually take that provisional patent, take to
1:46:25
Speaker 1: the company and say look I got the patent on it.
1:46:27
Speaker 1: They don't really know, they just always the patent. You
1:46:29
Speaker 1: can say, look I got a toy, I got a patent.
1:46:31
Speaker 1: Let's talk business. So okay now, but so that sounds simple,
1:46:36
Speaker 1: but you're the latest design out. You just couldn't put
1:46:38
Speaker 1: it in just description. You have to have to have
1:46:41
Speaker 1: some pictures and some some something some symboms of a
1:46:45
Speaker 1: design correct. Correct. So what I what I normally do
1:46:49
Speaker 1: for how our license a product is This is the
1:46:53
Speaker 1: sill I saw that the cheap man's way, right. You
1:46:55
Speaker 1: can always go to fiber right, and you can find
1:46:58
Speaker 1: somebody on fiber for another country. Had them sketched this
1:47:02
Speaker 1: up for like five or ten dollars. Have them sketched
1:47:05
Speaker 1: up for you. We call the sales sheets. Because you
1:47:08
Speaker 1: get the product looking good on the seal sheet, you
1:47:10
Speaker 1: can get photoshot, you can have it looking like it's
1:47:12
Speaker 1: in Walmart, all this good stuff to impress the company
1:47:15
Speaker 1: to make the one to do listens with you. You
1:47:18
Speaker 1: can uh once you put the cell sheet together. You
1:47:21
Speaker 1: submitted to different companies, act different companies. Hey, I'm a
1:47:24
Speaker 1: product developer. I developed this cool product. Can't take a
1:47:27
Speaker 1: look at it. And if they decided to go with you,
1:47:29
Speaker 1: you can get a license and deal. And based on
1:47:31
Speaker 1: how the company is in their contract, they can give
1:47:34
Speaker 1: you whatever contract they want the percentage right. So now
1:47:37
Speaker 1: you have the idea of your wife and told you
1:47:39
Speaker 1: get out of big because she ain't got time for
1:47:41
Speaker 1: all these charts. We've got bills and paid God and
1:47:43
Speaker 1: gave you this vision, so you sketch it out and
1:47:45
Speaker 1: then you got this company. It works on the cheat.
1:47:48
Speaker 1: But that's how foreign labor here sometimes just schet you
1:47:51
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1:47:53
Speaker 1: it into a professional plan. Then you're able to file
1:47:56
Speaker 1: that because you make it on a hundred and fifty
1:47:58
Speaker 1: dollars for sixty they would hold that for a year.
1:48:01
Speaker 1: Correct correct? Okay? Cool? So now I see this is
1:48:05
Speaker 1: on Amazon because I did my little research. You know,
1:48:08
Speaker 1: in fact, you go you Google is a nice description
1:48:11
Speaker 1: pops up about your toy? How long has it been out?
1:48:14
Speaker 1: And has has the sales met your expectations? So it
1:48:19
Speaker 1: took it took about five years to actually make it
1:48:21
Speaker 1: because the technology didn't exist, so we had to find
1:48:26
Speaker 1: engineering company to actually prototype it and make it, and
1:48:30
Speaker 1: that that's what took so long. The toy actually just
1:48:33
Speaker 1: came out of September, right, um, and the sales and
1:48:35
Speaker 1: the response has been pretty good. We'll be in a
1:48:38
Speaker 1: lot of response from different different people, different groups, um,
1:48:42
Speaker 1: and it's been pretty it's been pretty good because it's
1:48:44
Speaker 1: not only in Amazon, it's on Walmart and a couple
1:48:47
Speaker 1: of different stories around the world. Well, you know, I
1:48:49
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of, uh, this restaurant called Cracker Bottle, Yes, okay,
1:48:54
Speaker 1: Cracker Bottle. You know they got that little game you're
1:48:56
Speaker 1: going there with the little sticks. You know, you you
1:48:59
Speaker 1: you it's almost like tik tac toe, but it's not
1:49:01
Speaker 1: tik Tac toe. Man. It'd be great if they if
1:49:04
Speaker 1: you went to them and convinced them to replace that
1:49:07
Speaker 1: little game that I never played with your with your
1:49:10
Speaker 1: rode brain, because it's just slick, because you know, it's
1:49:13
Speaker 1: one of those things you put out there and you
1:49:15
Speaker 1: know people can compete with each other. I'm just this
1:49:17
Speaker 1: is why I'm a marketing person. I know how to
1:49:19
Speaker 1: brand and get ideas out there. All I know is
1:49:22
Speaker 1: that at Cracker Barrel, which I love, they they have
1:49:25
Speaker 1: become pancake That's my thing. I got for the bacon
1:49:27
Speaker 1: pancakes and the Freeman Cracker Barrel. Man today the food cannavasty.
1:49:32
Speaker 1: Oh see see you can't see right there. See how
1:49:34
Speaker 1: are you gonna get out there? See you're I'm going
1:49:37
Speaker 1: there crackingout food that I'm talking about the product of
1:49:40
Speaker 1: getting your stuff in there. That's what I'm talking about.
1:49:43
Speaker 1: If you know what I'm talking about is that you know,
1:49:45
Speaker 1: these different restaurants and their different brands, and you diversity.
1:49:48
Speaker 1: You're diverse, okay, And so like if you go to Denny's,
1:49:52
Speaker 1: then it's got those little drawings with their little kids
1:49:55
Speaker 1: and they give them crayons and things like that so
1:49:58
Speaker 1: they can keep them busy. I'm just saying, is that
1:50:00
Speaker 1: your product, it's so interesting and so entertaining. That's a
1:50:04
Speaker 1: good way of getting it out into the marketplace and
1:50:07
Speaker 1: start gaining interest out there. Unless you have another marketing
1:50:10
Speaker 1: plan that you want to reveal to me on the
1:50:11
Speaker 1: show that you're just gonna make your products just go
1:50:14
Speaker 1: to the next level, like Rupu's Q Oh. Yeah. So
1:50:18
Speaker 1: the company that that actually licensed the roller Brain and
1:50:22
Speaker 1: we're working together as a partnership, they kind of they
1:50:24
Speaker 1: got things set up. I know, it's a it's a
1:50:28
Speaker 1: reality series that's in Canada that's actually supposed to be
1:50:32
Speaker 1: featuring the roder Brain and a little competition and things
1:50:35
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, we we we got a
1:50:38
Speaker 1: plan and this is working pretty good. And you know,
1:50:40
Speaker 1: it takes some time too, because it is a new product.
1:50:43
Speaker 1: People are so used to the root excue. That's kind
1:50:46
Speaker 1: of it's kind of hard to to break that market
1:50:48
Speaker 1: because everybody is so used to rupe see roots who
1:50:51
Speaker 1: being out for what forties forties some plus years a
1:50:55
Speaker 1: long time. So we kind of that's our biggest competitions
1:50:58
Speaker 1: RUPI scie, So we gotta take all those people and
1:51:01
Speaker 1: bring them over us. Let me ask you this now,
1:51:03
Speaker 1: you know that's your competition. It's just like McDonald's. You
1:51:06
Speaker 1: know McDonald's has a hamburger Burger, he has a hamburger,
1:51:09
Speaker 1: and then Chick fil A came out with a chicken
1:51:11
Speaker 1: sandwich and then pop Eyes came out with their chicken sandwich.
1:51:14
Speaker 1: So that's all competition. And what what what do you
1:51:18
Speaker 1: believe that's different from your brand that you need to
1:51:21
Speaker 1: tell people about so they can either start playing your
1:51:25
Speaker 1: your rodeo brain or they just say, man, this this
1:51:29
Speaker 1: way better than ruby Q. Let's go do this. The
1:51:35
Speaker 1: biggest thing I tell tell the company is is social media. Uh.
1:51:40
Speaker 1: Social media is the biggest platform YouTube, Instagram. Uh. That's
1:51:44
Speaker 1: where we're trying to build the market at right now,
1:51:46
Speaker 1: to gain the followers, uh, to to expand the brand. Um.
1:51:52
Speaker 1: Right now, it's just kind of word of mouth, and
1:51:55
Speaker 1: you know, I'm fighting back and forth with the company,
1:51:58
Speaker 1: trying to get them to expand and do some different things,
1:52:00
Speaker 1: but they kind of got to the lock and key
1:52:03
Speaker 1: with it. How do they want to do the market there? Right?
1:52:06
Speaker 1: So with that being said, so have you guys started
1:52:09
Speaker 1: any online contest yet about the rotal brain contests right now?
1:52:15
Speaker 1: That's all I was talking about. With the reality series
1:52:18
Speaker 1: that's in kind of the right now. They're doing some
1:52:20
Speaker 1: type of set up right now where they're trying to
1:52:23
Speaker 1: broadcasting like that where it's gonna be a competition to
1:52:26
Speaker 1: to bring get more people, to bring it more views
1:52:28
Speaker 1: and have more eyes on it. So, so right now
1:52:32
Speaker 1: this company and how did their relationship with the company
1:52:34
Speaker 1: start Just to listen to other entrepreneurs who have ideas
1:52:38
Speaker 1: and like I said, you know when you you know,
1:52:39
Speaker 1: everybody wants their product to just blow out, just blow up,
1:52:42
Speaker 1: okay now, but you want to have a person that
1:52:45
Speaker 1: believes in it. And so this was an investor. The
1:52:47
Speaker 1: company came in. They believed in your product, the rotal brain,
1:52:50
Speaker 1: and the rotal brain is like a rupie Que type product,
1:52:53
Speaker 1: where like the roup is Que enhances your humanity, memory,
1:52:56
Speaker 1: critical thinking, and will test your i Q. That's the
1:53:00
Speaker 1: value the ruby's que. The value of the rothal brain
1:53:03
Speaker 1: is that you can keep changing your codes so you're
1:53:07
Speaker 1: not trapped at the same ruby que. So once you
1:53:10
Speaker 1: master the ruby Q, it's mastered. Okay, the rothal brain
1:53:14
Speaker 1: it can keep. You can change your code and guess what,
1:53:16
Speaker 1: you master that code, change your code to another code.
1:53:19
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of the rothal brain. How have I
1:53:21
Speaker 1: figured it out yet? Yes, sir, never stop stop, right
1:53:26
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, what's next step for you? Man?
1:53:29
Speaker 1: I know you're not tied to just one one one invention.
1:53:32
Speaker 1: You got a lot of startups going on. Tell us
1:53:34
Speaker 1: about the future story. I'm also an author to I
1:53:37
Speaker 1: wrote the book based on some past experiences with my
1:53:40
Speaker 1: son's mother. It's called Baby on the Drama, the Drama,
1:53:45
Speaker 1: And it's not a book that's the Great Woman anything
1:53:49
Speaker 1: like that, you know. Going through course. First of all,
1:53:54
Speaker 1: baby Mama Drama. That title right there, You got me
1:53:57
Speaker 1: chuckling right there. Okay, So so know that you and
1:54:00
Speaker 1: jumped from enhancing your memory, memory, critical thinking and testing
1:54:04
Speaker 1: your i Q too, Baby Mama Drama. You know what
1:54:07
Speaker 1: it's like here and there? Okay, So now this is
1:54:11
Speaker 1: a brand conversation. Now, okay, I understand it's a it's
1:54:15
Speaker 1: a personal journey. So how can a guy be talking
1:54:18
Speaker 1: about rup e Q type design style and in the
1:54:21
Speaker 1: rotal brain and then turn around and say, I'm also
1:54:24
Speaker 1: the author of Baby Mama Drama. It was something that uh,
1:54:31
Speaker 1: you know, I followed Dr Masma Row, the late grade
1:54:34
Speaker 1: Dr mos Row, and he always said when anything, anytime
1:54:38
Speaker 1: something bothers you the only person that's bothered by it,
1:54:41
Speaker 1: and as God telling you should do something about it.
1:54:43
Speaker 1: I always wanted to write a book, even while I
1:54:44
Speaker 1: was inventing and creating stuff and trying to license products.
1:54:48
Speaker 1: Are always was a writer and the author too. So
1:54:51
Speaker 1: it's kind of this was time for me to put
1:54:53
Speaker 1: the book out and put the toy out. There's having
1:54:55
Speaker 1: to come up at the same time. So you got
1:54:58
Speaker 1: the mama's mad at you and confused kids with so
1:55:05
Speaker 1: so tell us about the book, man. You know you
1:55:07
Speaker 1: have brought it up, Baby Mama Drama. Y'all. Sorry, it's
1:55:09
Speaker 1: right over your head right there. I was just gonna
1:55:12
Speaker 1: talk about the roto brain, but you brought up the
1:55:13
Speaker 1: Baby Mama Drama book. That was okay, okay, how long
1:55:17
Speaker 1: was this book? In the writing and who helped you writeing? Uh,
1:55:22
Speaker 1: my wife is a writer too, over too, so you
1:55:26
Speaker 1: know she helped me know with the time to write
1:55:28
Speaker 1: the book. And he sat down, went through some some
1:55:31
Speaker 1: past experiences and we we we chopped it up and
1:55:37
Speaker 1: we dropped the book out and and that's out here. Man, Now,
1:55:42
Speaker 1: how are you promoting it? Because I'm assuming this came
1:55:44
Speaker 1: out and there you you you you finished writing it
1:55:47
Speaker 1: and during the pandemic year, which is and it didn't
1:55:50
Speaker 1: come out this fall? And what is your promotional plan
1:55:53
Speaker 1: for that? And what message are you trying to create?
1:55:56
Speaker 1: A who what just called Baby Mama Drama? Is that
1:55:59
Speaker 1: a book that's going to be to find men for
1:56:02
Speaker 1: men to read or women can find interest and information
1:56:05
Speaker 1: out of it for them to be uplifted from. It's
1:56:08
Speaker 1: a book. It's a book for both men and women.
1:56:10
Speaker 1: It's not a book like I said that that The
1:56:12
Speaker 1: Grades Woman is actually just a book like to me,
1:56:15
Speaker 1: and what I believe is guys never had the opportunity
1:56:19
Speaker 1: to to have anybody to talk to about situations with
1:56:22
Speaker 1: their kids mother, whether it's good or bad. It's just
1:56:25
Speaker 1: always like we're always told, hey, just take care of
1:56:27
Speaker 1: your kids, So we never had nobody to talk to,
1:56:31
Speaker 1: no outletting. Um. So when I wrote the book, it's
1:56:35
Speaker 1: just some personal experiences that just my struggles and my
1:56:38
Speaker 1: opinions on how you can deal with the situation. Right now,
1:56:42
Speaker 1: with that being said, did they are all in positive
1:56:45
Speaker 1: for you? Are you still struggling with the baby mama
1:56:48
Speaker 1: drama situation? No? No, so my son, my son is
1:56:51
Speaker 1: fourteen right now. In the beginning, like I said, the books,
1:56:54
Speaker 1: how the book is written. In the beginning, of course,
1:56:56
Speaker 1: it's all bad. But as you grow and you learn,
1:56:58
Speaker 1: the situations is better. So and that's a lot of things.
1:57:01
Speaker 1: And that's that's what the book is about. It's helping
1:57:03
Speaker 1: guys in those situations that are in bad situations to
1:57:07
Speaker 1: help them learn how to deal with them so they
1:57:09
Speaker 1: don't go no to the or get worse. Get your stream.
1:57:14
Speaker 1: Give us an example of what you're talking about from
1:57:16
Speaker 1: your book, an extremely an example of guys being guided
1:57:19
Speaker 1: by your book that can follow some advice that won't
1:57:22
Speaker 1: let them step off to the ledge and do something stupid,
1:57:25
Speaker 1: or react to something stupid and embarrass themselves in front
1:57:28
Speaker 1: of their child, or create a relationship where they walk
1:57:31
Speaker 1: away from their child. All right. So it's a chapter
1:57:35
Speaker 1: in my book that I called it's called Barriers Setting barriers.
1:57:39
Speaker 1: So like in this in this chapter talks about how
1:57:44
Speaker 1: my kids mother used to call me just random times
1:57:47
Speaker 1: and talk about random stuff all different times in the night,
1:57:51
Speaker 1: you know. And because a relationship with you that right
1:57:56
Speaker 1: there to say, hey, you gotta you gotta learn how
1:57:58
Speaker 1: to tell her note right to her, you can call
1:58:00
Speaker 1: me at this time because you have to set barriers,
1:58:03
Speaker 1: like if you if you're married, I have a girlfriend
1:58:05
Speaker 1: and somebody call you a little knight, that can cost
1:58:07
Speaker 1: confusing in your house. Absolutely. So I was teaching guys, hey,
1:58:10
Speaker 1: learn how to talk to her in the professional, nice
1:58:13
Speaker 1: Curtius way so you know it won't be no bickering,
1:58:16
Speaker 1: right and learn and grow from that. So she was
1:58:18
Speaker 1: still tying up your time, like y'all were still in
1:58:21
Speaker 1: the relationship. So that night, Hey the pipe boat bro over,
1:58:28
Speaker 1: Hey I need some food. Hey the grassneed cutting. Hey
1:58:34
Speaker 1: the plumber ain't working. Hey the lights ain't on. Hey
1:58:37
Speaker 1: I got a flat tie. He ain't more food in
1:58:40
Speaker 1: the refrigerator. All that man's all that madness, right or
1:58:44
Speaker 1: calling yelling being mad at my son. This boy up
1:58:47
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning playing video games, and I'm like,
1:58:50
Speaker 1: but you you stay with you right, Maybe you should
1:58:54
Speaker 1: tell them go to bed right right right, But you
1:58:56
Speaker 1: know that I can understand the calling about that because
1:58:58
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta you gotta step up the volume and
1:59:00
Speaker 1: men have a difference. But that's why it's important to
1:59:02
Speaker 1: have to keep that parental structure, you know. That's why
1:59:05
Speaker 1: it's important that you know, if two there's two people
1:59:08
Speaker 1: made that child, two people should raise that child. And
1:59:11
Speaker 1: that situation is that I'm not mad, you know, because
1:59:14
Speaker 1: I have a daughter and my wife. Sometimes my daughters,
1:59:17
Speaker 1: you go, I can't, I can't. I can't get through her.
1:59:19
Speaker 1: I can't get through to her, talk to her. I
1:59:21
Speaker 1: go and I go and do and I just say,
1:59:23
Speaker 1: what's wrong baby? Do you not listen to your mama today?
1:59:28
Speaker 1: What's going on in your mama down stairs? You know
1:59:31
Speaker 1: she's on fire because you're gonna get up by this
1:59:34
Speaker 1: room and do what yes, you do, what's going on?
1:59:37
Speaker 1: And so just a conversation, That's what I'm saying. That's
1:59:41
Speaker 1: that's all your that'saw your ex wife is telling you
1:59:43
Speaker 1: look some things because my I would because I speak
1:59:46
Speaker 1: things out. My wife. She wants an immediate reaction, you know,
1:59:49
Speaker 1: And I would explain to you what I want you
1:59:52
Speaker 1: to do. That's what that's the difference between my wife
1:59:54
Speaker 1: and I when it comes to our child. I go,
1:59:57
Speaker 1: I go to I go to my daughters to look.
1:59:59
Speaker 1: I need you do that. I stay, and this is
2:00:00
Speaker 1: why I need you to go downstairs. My wife would go,
2:00:03
Speaker 1: I need to come downstairs and wash the dishes. Okay,
2:00:07
Speaker 1: as a parent, you can do that, okay, But I go, look, hey, baby, okay,
2:00:11
Speaker 1: you enjoy eating in the house, right yes, daddy? Okay, cool.
2:00:15
Speaker 1: When you're eating the house, there are certain things that
2:00:18
Speaker 1: need to be done to continue eating in the house. Yes, daddy.
2:00:21
Speaker 1: That means you have to wash the dishes. You understand
2:00:24
Speaker 1: the logic right now, baby, don't you? Yes, daddy? And
2:00:26
Speaker 1: she goes down stairs. See that's a that's a conversation
2:00:30
Speaker 1: that she understands, because if she doesn't, if you don't
2:00:32
Speaker 1: watch them dishes, guess what's gonna happen there? Core She's
2:00:35
Speaker 1: gonna stop eating in my house. She got you gotta
2:00:39
Speaker 1: make it make sense. That's why my son make it
2:00:41
Speaker 1: makes sense. Just go downstairs and watch the dishes. My
2:00:46
Speaker 1: done dollar all up in fire. She's gonna keep playing
2:00:48
Speaker 1: that video game. I got school work, okay, cool. Guess
2:00:51
Speaker 1: what if Daddy don't pay for the school work to
2:00:54
Speaker 1: keep playing at the school. Guess who's gonna stop going
2:00:56
Speaker 1: to school? Me? Dad? Absolutely, I think you need to
2:00:59
Speaker 1: watch those is it just just to stand in the conversation.
2:01:01
Speaker 1: So in the book, So the book Baby Mama Drama
2:01:04
Speaker 1: that was that was a co author. I want to say,
2:01:06
Speaker 1: by you, by your wife, what is the what are
2:01:09
Speaker 1: you are you? I know it's COVID nineteen and you
2:01:12
Speaker 1: can't do any book tours or are you doing any
2:01:14
Speaker 1: any any virtual tours or anything like that? What are
2:01:17
Speaker 1: you doing to market the book right now? Just I
2:01:21
Speaker 1: do a lot of marketing, a lot of social media,
2:01:24
Speaker 1: do a lot of live videos. But with like you said,
2:01:28
Speaker 1: what the hots ovid is? I covid got everything locked up?
2:01:31
Speaker 1: It's really nothing right. Well, you know the thing about
2:01:35
Speaker 1: this is that I like the I'll be honest with
2:01:38
Speaker 1: your title doesn't really tell you the truth because Baby
2:01:41
Speaker 1: Mama Drama. You know it does sound negative. Okay, I'm
2:01:45
Speaker 1: just be honest with you, But what you're talking about
2:01:47
Speaker 1: is real positive it's about communication. And also I like
2:01:51
Speaker 1: what you're talking about is the fact that co parenting
2:01:55
Speaker 1: the right way and like you said, sitting barriers. So
2:01:58
Speaker 1: so some of you a copy of that book and
2:01:59
Speaker 1: start to read it, and I bring it back on
2:02:01
Speaker 1: the show when I know what's going on. So I
2:02:03
Speaker 1: can because I read all books that when people come
2:02:05
Speaker 1: on my show, I read the book. Okay, So to
2:02:08
Speaker 1: the copy of your book to me so I can
2:02:10
Speaker 1: bring you on back on the show reading this book. Okay,
2:02:12
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with in this interview, I'm just
2:02:14
Speaker 1: gonna just do the interview on the Rodal Brain and
2:02:17
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna cut this part out and I'm gonna
2:02:19
Speaker 1: bring you back on the show about your book. Is
2:02:20
Speaker 1: that cool? That's cool? That's cool. Yeah, because I don't
2:02:23
Speaker 1: like to my staff. No, I read books, you know,
2:02:27
Speaker 1: and I like to be in tune and be able
2:02:28
Speaker 1: to help you get to your message so it could
2:02:30
Speaker 1: be sold to the general public, and that would be
2:02:33
Speaker 1: only favorable to that. I didn't expect to talk about
2:02:36
Speaker 1: it doing this interview because I was just talking about
2:02:38
Speaker 1: the Rodal Brain. Because I would never interview you about
2:02:40
Speaker 1: the book. I've never read that's not fair to you. Okay,
2:02:45
Speaker 1: that's cool. So so tell us how to buy this
2:02:47
Speaker 1: rotal brain, sir. So yeah, man, the rotor brain. Man
2:02:52
Speaker 1: is this next level game? And man? Next level fun? Um?
2:02:56
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna blow any puzzle toy out the water.
2:03:00
Speaker 1: Um Um. I love it. It's the best thing I
2:03:03
Speaker 1: ever created. Man. Um, I gotta get guy his credit.
2:03:07
Speaker 1: It wasn't for him, then this thing would have never
2:03:09
Speaker 1: been uh in existence. Um. Always tell people I borrowed
2:03:13
Speaker 1: it from God, prayed and asking forward and then he
2:03:15
Speaker 1: let me borrow it. So I'm showing the world what's
2:03:18
Speaker 1: your what's your education background on this U that led
2:03:21
Speaker 1: you to this? Do you did you go to college
2:03:24
Speaker 1: or what? What's your background? Technically? No, I'm seeing that's
2:03:26
Speaker 1: that's the thing. My my gift was was always creativity
2:03:30
Speaker 1: as a kid, as a youth growing up, I was
2:03:33
Speaker 1: that kid, right, So my mom used to buy me
2:03:35
Speaker 1: Christmas toys, right, I don't care what she bought me.
2:03:38
Speaker 1: I always took her apart. I mean, I just told
2:03:41
Speaker 1: him myself, I don't even know this about this. I'm
2:03:43
Speaker 1: girl now, but mom, sorry, but all the toys she
2:03:46
Speaker 1: ever bought me, I always took him apart. I was
2:03:48
Speaker 1: always interested in the way toys worked. So my gift
2:03:54
Speaker 1: has always been creativity and invent My background in education
2:03:57
Speaker 1: was applied science. But no, this has nothing to do
2:04:01
Speaker 1: with sciences. This engineering and UH and the mechanics. Well,
2:04:08
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a fun movie that's
2:04:10
Speaker 1: on Netflix right now. Only if you called it called
2:04:12
Speaker 1: a jingle jangle. The Christmas story Christmas Journey UH is
2:04:16
Speaker 1: about a black inventor. You know, if you haven't watched it,
2:04:19
Speaker 1: please watch it. You're gonna get get a big kick
2:04:21
Speaker 1: out of it. It's just kind of reminds me of you,
2:04:23
Speaker 1: a talented young man who has skills and UH and
2:04:27
Speaker 1: and changing it is going to change the world. There's
2:04:29
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that you're going to be
2:04:30
Speaker 1: successful at what you do. There's no doubt in my
2:04:33
Speaker 1: mind that this is a fantastic UH toy that you've created.
2:04:37
Speaker 1: We call it a toy, but it's beyond being a toy.
2:04:39
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's enhances your memory, enhances
2:04:42
Speaker 1: your critical thinking, which is good for anything. I remember
2:04:45
Speaker 1: when I was in the band. By being in the band,
2:04:47
Speaker 1: it always helped my memory by being playing an instrument.
2:04:51
Speaker 1: And I feel that by playing their toy, it can
2:04:53
Speaker 1: help your memory, your decision makers, this decision maker, and
2:04:56
Speaker 1: more importantly, it can test your i Q and get
2:04:59
Speaker 1: it up there. And that's what we're all trying to
2:05:01
Speaker 1: do it nowadays, especially within the black community, but just
2:05:03
Speaker 1: towards not strictly for the black community, it's for the
2:05:06
Speaker 1: community general. And I'm gonna thank you for coming on
2:05:08
Speaker 1: my show. Corey. I appreciate that. I appreciate you having me.
2:05:11
Speaker 1: Well guess what, we're gonna come back, because we're gonna
2:05:13
Speaker 1: get that book out of here and I'm gonna read
2:05:15
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2:05:17
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