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Hezbollah Terrorist CAUGHT at Our Southern Border, Media LIES About Trump Calling for 'Bloodbath' & Hunter Runs Away · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
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Speaker 2: you and Senator I hate to say that this is
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Speaker 2: something we talked about a long time ago and had
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Speaker 2: been warning. But sure enough, another warning sign coming from
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Speaker 2: our southern border with terrorists using and exploiting that open
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Speaker 2: border to get into America.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We've got a big show today.
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Speaker 3: Last week, a Hesbaala terrorist was caught at our southern
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Speaker 3: border trying to cross into this country, trying to come
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Speaker 3: here to detonate a bomb in New York City. We're
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Speaker 3: going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened
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Speaker 3: with that. On top of that, we saw this past
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Speaker 3: week the media engage in a frenzy of lies and deception.
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Speaker 3: If you picked up any newspaper, you've seen the headline
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Speaker 3: that Donald Trump pledged a quote blood bath if he
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Speaker 3: didn't get elected. That makes for good headlines. It just
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Speaker 3: turns out it was a complete and total lie. We'll explain.
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Speaker 3: And finally, Hunter Biden, you know, Hunter Biden had a
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Speaker 3: lot of bravado when the House wanted them to come in,
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Speaker 3: wanted to come in for a private deposition, and he
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Speaker 3: said publicly I will not come in in a private deposition.
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Speaker 3: I will only come publicly. I want to tell my
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Speaker 3: story to America. Well, I ended up blinking, he ended
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Speaker 3: up coming in for a private deposition, and now the
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Speaker 3: House has asked him to come in for a public hearing.
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Speaker 3: And what did Hunter Biden do? Run away say, absolutely not,
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Speaker 3: I'm not willing to do a public testimony. I want
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Speaker 3: out of here. We'll get to the bottom of that
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 1: Center.
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Speaker 2: Let's get to this first story at the border. I
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Speaker 2: would like to say that I'm shocked by this story.
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Speaker 1: This article.
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Speaker 2: The New York Post has put it out talking about
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Speaker 2: this illegal immigrant from Lebanon. He was caught at the border.
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Speaker 2: Atmitting number one, he's a Hesblo terras. Number two he's
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Speaker 2: a Hesba terris hoping to make a bomb. And number
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Speaker 2: three he says he was headed to New York City.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, and I want to credit the
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Speaker 3: New York Post for breaking this story. It's a very
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Speaker 3: important story. This was an illegal immigrant from Lebanon. He
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Speaker 3: was caught sneaking over the border and he admitted that
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Speaker 3: he trained as a member of Hesbola, that his destination
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Speaker 3: was New York City and he hoped to make a bomb.
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Speaker 3: His name was Basel Basel Ebadi. He was twenty two
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Speaker 3: years old. He was caught by border patrol on March
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Speaker 3: ninth near l Paso, Texas. While he was in custody,
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Speaker 3: he was asked what he was doing in the US,
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Speaker 3: to which he replied, quote, I'm going to try to
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Speaker 3: make a bob. Ebadi said in the sworn interview that
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Speaker 3: he had trained with Hesbela for seven years and it
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Speaker 3: served as an active member guarding weapons locations for another
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Speaker 3: four years. Ebadi's training focused on Jahad and on killing
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Speaker 3: people quote that was not Muslim. So listen, this individual
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Speaker 3: was clearly a threat. He said he was headed to
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Speaker 3: New York City and we ought to Number one, be
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Speaker 3: thankful that this hesbela terrorist was caught. He admitted who
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Speaker 3: he was, He admitted what he came to do. But understand,
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Speaker 3: the numbers keep growing and growing and growing. In fiscal
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Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two, ninety eight individuals on the terror
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Speaker 3: watch lists were encountered at our southern and northern borders,
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Speaker 3: and in fiscal year twenty twenty three, that number doubled
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Speaker 3: to one hundred and seventy two. So far, in the
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Speaker 3: first four months of twenty twenty four, fifty nine more
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Speaker 3: people have been apprehended according to the federal numbers. And understand,
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Speaker 3: for the entirety of the Trump presidency, for twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen twenty twenty, a total of thirty
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Speaker 3: people on the terror watch list were apprehended crossing illegally.
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Speaker 3: So we've gone from thirty over four years to one
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy two in a single year. That is
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Speaker 3: what happens when Joe Biden and the Democrats open up
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Speaker 3: our southern border and it is inviting the inevitable, which
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Speaker 3: is what just happened. Hezbala terrorists crossing our border with
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Speaker 3: the intention of carrying out acts of terror in the
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Speaker 3: United States.
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Speaker 2: If it wasn't for this incredible reporting. And I want
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Speaker 2: to make sure we give a lot of credit to
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Speaker 2: this reporter who did this in the New York Post,
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Speaker 2: Jenny Tayor. She put this out there. I have a
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Speaker 2: question center, and you may know this answer. This is
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Speaker 2: the first time we've heard about this because the media
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Speaker 2: reporting it. How many times this happened? Where there is
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Speaker 2: someone that is saying the exact same things. Is this individual,
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Speaker 2: this terrorist that we don't know about because the government
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Speaker 2: hasn't told us.
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Speaker 3: So here's the infuriating answer. I have no idea. I
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Speaker 3: serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee. We have jurisdiction over
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Speaker 3: immigration over the border, and yet when we ask how
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Speaker 3: many Hesbola terrorists have you encountered? How many Hamas terrorists
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Speaker 3: have you encountered? They won't answer that they stonewall. The
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Speaker 3: Biden administration does not want anyone to know. They certainly
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Speaker 3: don't want Congress to know, and more importantly, they don't
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Speaker 3: want the American people to know.
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Speaker 1: Is that behind closed doors? By the way, when you
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Speaker 1: ask both, I mean.
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Speaker 3: Behind closed doors and public both.
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Speaker 2: So so there I'm going through excuses my head. I
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Speaker 2: could see where they say, well, so there's a public
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Speaker 2: you know, hearing, we don't want to give you that information.
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Speaker 2: It may put our you know, methods or or whatever
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Speaker 2: at risk. But you're saying these questions, you guys are
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Speaker 2: asking behind closed doors, so that that idea has thrown
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Speaker 2: out the window, and they're still stone walling.
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Speaker 3: They absolutely stonewall. They will not give you an answer.
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Speaker 3: And understand, all right, let's take fiscal year twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy two people on the terror watch list. Now,
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Speaker 3: now that's troubling, but what's much more troubling is the
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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of god aways. Understand that one seventy
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Speaker 3: two are the people they apprehended. That gives you an
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Speaker 3: indication that the volume coming across of terrorists or potential
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Speaker 3: terrorists has exploded as dramatically, has exponentially increased. But the
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Speaker 3: really serious terrorists are the ones that don't get apprehended,
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Speaker 3: are the ones that are god aways. And so all right,
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Speaker 3: here's how this plays out.
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Speaker 1: At the border.
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Speaker 3: When you're at the southern border, groups come across illegally,
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Speaker 3: many of them turn themselves in affirmatively. That consumes a
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Speaker 3: lot of the energy. A border patrol is just dealing
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Speaker 3: with people that go find border patrol turn themselves in.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, when they do so, suddenly the
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Speaker 3: border patrol agents. Let's say you've got two agents out
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Speaker 3: in a truck and they've got thirty people who turn
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Speaker 3: themselves in. Those agents are now out of commission for
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Speaker 3: several hours. They have to watch those migrants. They have
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Speaker 3: to call for backup, they have to get vehicles, they
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Speaker 3: have to transform them to the system, they have to
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Speaker 3: get them processed. There are more than half the border
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Speaker 3: patrol agents are back at the detention facility processing them
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Speaker 3: or are sitting there filling out paperwork, are giving them food,
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Speaker 3: or giving them clothing, or giving them diapers. You know
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Speaker 3: what they're not doing if they're at the detention center.
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Speaker 3: They're not on the border patrolling. They're not looking for
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Speaker 3: drug dealers, they're not looking for human traffickers, they're not
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Speaker 3: looking for terrorists. And so the people that turn themselves
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Speaker 3: in suck an enormous amount of resources away from patrolling
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Speaker 3: the border. And then the bad guys are the ones.
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Speaker 3: They're really bad guys. They're really dangerous. Ones are the
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Speaker 3: ones that evade arrest. Now some of them get caught,
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Speaker 3: and I will say, we don't know of this individual,
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Speaker 3: how he was apprehended outside El Paso. We don't know
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Speaker 3: if he was dumb enough to turn himself in. If
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Speaker 3: he was that, this guy is not going to be
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Speaker 3: in in the terrorist chapter of MENSA. So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he turned himself in, or I
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Speaker 3: don't know if he was attempting to be a god
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Speaker 3: Away and they caught him. That is not in the
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Speaker 3: New York Post reporting. I'd sure like to doe, but
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Speaker 3: I can tell you today, whatever day it is, there
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Speaker 3: are thousands of godaways. Every day, there are thousands of Godaways.
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Speaker 3: That's what the volume is. And those godaways are the
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Speaker 3: ones I'm very worried about about ten, twenty fifty one
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Speaker 3: hundred more Hesbela and A terrorists coming over and intending
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Speaker 3: to do something worse than nine to eleven, intending to
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Speaker 3: do something on the order of magnitude of October seventh,
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Speaker 3: or even worse. This is a clear and present danger,
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Speaker 3: and it is caused daily by Joe Biden and congressional
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Speaker 3: Democrats leaving our border wide open.
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Speaker 2: It seems that the administration is more obsessed with the
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Speaker 2: pr aspect of not telling you guys what's actually going
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Speaker 2: on than they do about national security.
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Speaker 1: What have they actually told you.
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Speaker 2: Guys in the Senate that you can tell us, obviously
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Speaker 2: publicly about the terrorists that are coming across the southern border.
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Speaker 2: Has there been any admission that they're concerned about it
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Speaker 2: or they're worried about I mean, I know the FBI
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Speaker 2: director has changed his tune in the last three or
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Speaker 2: four months, obviously and is saying he's very concerned about
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Speaker 2: those known terrorists, are those in the watch lists coming
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Speaker 2: across the southern border. But the rest of the administration
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Speaker 2: seems to be completely silent on that.
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Speaker 3: Well, the FBI. It's interesting the administrator of the FBI
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Speaker 3: has changed his tune. He has been in the past
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Speaker 3: few months repeatedly and loudly warning of the risk of
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Speaker 3: a terror attack. And I have to assume it's because
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Speaker 3: what the FBI is seeing that they are number one, terrified,
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Speaker 3: but number two, I think they view it as almost
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Speaker 3: inevitable we will see a terror attack and they want
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Speaker 3: to get that on record. But you know what, Joe Biden,
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, a single Democrat senator, a single Democrat House member,
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Speaker 3: all of them are silent.
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Speaker 4: Here.
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Speaker 3: Listen to what Joe Biden said on March eleventh, give
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Speaker 3: a listen.
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Speaker 5: Look, what we need is we need, is we needed
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Speaker 5: as an orderly process of the border, not to keep
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Speaker 5: They're not vermin, they're not scum, They're not people who
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Speaker 5: are all criminals coming with us.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I love that idea from Joe Biden from
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Speaker 2: back in the day, but there's nothing orderly about what's
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Speaker 2: happening at the border that's been clearly documented.
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Speaker 3: It's not orderly.
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Speaker 1: It's chaos.
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Speaker 3: And this line about they're not people who are all
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Speaker 3: criminals coming, well, what about this hesbla terrorist? What about him?
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Speaker 3: I guess Joe Biden's defense is, well, you know we
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Speaker 3: have terrorists in the United States. What about Lake and
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Speaker 3: Riley's parents? His answer is, well, he let that murderer go.
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Speaker 3: But his answers, well, you know we have murderers in
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Speaker 3: the United States. What about Jeremy Cassarras, the two year
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Speaker 3: old boy in Maryland who was murdered by another illegal
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Speaker 3: alien that Joe Biden released. Again, his answer as well,
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Speaker 3: we have murderers here. He takes zero responsibility for releasing
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Speaker 3: murderer after murderer after murder. He takes zero responsibility for
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Speaker 3: releasing child rapist after child rapist after child rapist, and
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Speaker 3: he takes zero responsibility for the terrorists who are coming
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Speaker 3: in to murder Americans. His answer is just well, I
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Speaker 3: want an orderly process. If we have an orderly way
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Speaker 3: to bring terrorists in, that's great for America. That is
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Speaker 3: so wildly a incompetent, but be ideological that he refuses
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Speaker 3: to actually value the safety and security of Americans above
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Speaker 3: his political ideology of complete and total open borders.
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Speaker 2: Final question, I want to get your response to the
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Speaker 2: White House pres Secretary Jean Pierre and what she said
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Speaker 2: about the open border in him not using executive action
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Speaker 2: to secure the southern border, which say, no, is a problem,
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Speaker 2: it's obvious. But also the second part I want to
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Speaker 2: ask you, Centaer, is if there was God forbid a
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Speaker 2: terrorist attack, do you think this administration would not move
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Speaker 2: immediately to secure the border through executive action? And I
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Speaker 2: say that in reference to this from the White House
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Speaker 2: Press Secretary to take a listen.
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Speaker 6: The President said yesterday that he was hoping executive.
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Speaker 1: Action on the border would happen by itself, that Congress
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Speaker 1: would legislate it.
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Speaker 2: Can you just confirm for us that this indicates that
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Speaker 2: he's no longer considering executive action on the border.
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Speaker 6: Well, the President has been very clear, and I've been
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Speaker 6: very clear anytime I've asked about executive actions. Here we
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Speaker 6: see the bottom line. The bottom line is in order
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Speaker 6: to have actually have change, extensive change, real change, comprehensive change,
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Speaker 6: that Senate bill that was negotiated between Republicans and obviously
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Speaker 6: Democrats in the Senate would have been the best way
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Speaker 6: to go. It would have been the toughest fairest piece
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Speaker 6: of legislation law, if you will, if it had been
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Speaker 6: if it had been moved and the President was able
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Speaker 6: to sign it into law. And that's what's important. The
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Speaker 6: President is trying to make it very clear. No executive
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Speaker 6: action would have that effect, the effect that this bipartisan
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Speaker 6: negotiation would have had.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Senator, you hear that, and then it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: what if there is something that happened, forbid happens, are
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Speaker 2: they going to stick to that same line or would
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Speaker 2: they pivot quickly?
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Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, I don't think they would pivot quickly. I
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Speaker 3: think they would immediately look to put the blame anywhere
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Speaker 3: else but themselves, because we've seen that pattern over and
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Speaker 3: over and over again. Listen, when I listened to that
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Speaker 3: press conference with Karee John Pierre, it saddens me to say,
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Speaker 3: but how do you know when Kareem Jean Pierre is
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Speaker 3: lying answer her lips are moving. Everything that woman says
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Speaker 3: from the podium at the White House on behalf of
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Speaker 3: the President of the United States is a lie and
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Speaker 3: a deliberate lie. Number One, she claims the Democrat bill
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Speaker 3: would have secured the border. The Democrat Bill, as we've
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Speaker 3: discussed at great length, is a terrible bill. It would
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Speaker 3: not have secured the border. It would have put into law,
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Speaker 3: it would have codified Joe Biden's open borders. It would
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Speaker 3: have made the problem worse. But number two, when she claims, gosh,
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Speaker 3: without legislation, there's nothing that can be done, that is
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Speaker 3: a deliberate lie. The Biden administration has taken ninety four
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Speaker 3: executive actions on immigration just in the first one hundred
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Speaker 3: days in office. And understand, those ninety four were all
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Speaker 3: designed to open up the border. They were all designed
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Speaker 3: to stop the steps that Donald Trump had put in place,
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Speaker 3: that we're working, that we're securing the border. Every one
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Speaker 3: of those ninety four Joe Biden could reverse. He doesn't
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Speaker 3: want to reverse it. And so when he was asked,
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Speaker 3: all right, here, give a listen again on March eleventh
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Speaker 3: to what happens when when Biden is asked about executive
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Speaker 3: action on the border.
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Speaker 1: President, when isn't a border executive actions on the border
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Speaker 1: coming on the border?
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Speaker 5: Action happened by a show, Well, they haven't yet, they haven't.
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Speaker 2: I love how that that reporter is like breaking news
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Speaker 2: the president like talking like she's talking to her old grandfather, like,
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Speaker 2: but sir, they can't reach an agreement. It's just embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: But there's the president completely out of touch with the reality.
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Speaker 3: Well except that's his pattern every day, which is to
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Speaker 3: shift blame. Well, they haven't yet. I'm not helping them.
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Speaker 1: It's there.
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Speaker 3: It's their fault, taking no responsibility for what he did.
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Speaker 3: Let's go back to Lake and Riley, because I think
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Speaker 3: Lake and Riley sums up the number one issue before
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Speaker 3: the American people in this election. Lake and Riley should
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Speaker 3: still be live. And the reason she is not alive
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Speaker 3: is because of decisions made by Joe Biden and made
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Speaker 3: by partisan Democrats. And let's recap what happened. Lake and
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Speaker 3: Riley's murderer came into the United States illegally from Venezuela.
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Speaker 3: He came in to al Paso, same place this has
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Speaker 3: bel of terrorist was. He was apprehended in El Paso,
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Speaker 3: same place this has beil a terrorist was. Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: made the decision, I'm not going to follow the law.
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Speaker 3: If Biden were willing to follow the law, here's what
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Speaker 3: would have happened. When the murderer came in. They would
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Speaker 3: have taken him, put him on an airplane, and flown
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Speaker 3: him back to Venezuela. If that had happened, Lake and
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Speaker 3: Riley would still be alive. But instead, Joe Biden decided,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to let this guy go. I don't care
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Speaker 3: what the law says. I want to let him go.
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Speaker 3: And so he did. He let him go. After that,
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Speaker 3: the murderer went to New York City and immediately was
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Speaker 3: arrested again, this time for endangering the welfare of a child.
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Speaker 3: And this is the second time Lake and Riley could
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Speaker 3: have been saved, but unfortunately, New York City is a
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Speaker 3: sanctuary city controlled by left wing Democrats, and so they
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Speaker 3: let the murderer go again. Had they put him in
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Speaker 3: jail for endangering the welfare of a child, Lake and
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Speaker 3: Riley would be alive. Had they simply referred him to ICE,
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Speaker 3: to the Federal Immigration Control and had ICE, had the
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Speaker 3: Biden administration deported him, Lake and Riley would be alive.
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Speaker 3: But they didn't. They just let him go. They just said, oh,
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Speaker 3: it's a criminal, what should we do. We should let
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Speaker 3: him go because that's what our ideology demands. And then
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Speaker 3: the murderer went down to Georgia. This twenty two year
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Speaker 3: old woman, a nursing student, was out jogging, out jogging,
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Speaker 3: and this psychopath beat her to death, bludgeoned her to death.
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Speaker 3: And Joe Biden in the State of the Union, when
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Speaker 3: he was heckled and called out about Lake and Riley,
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Speaker 3: he took zero responsibility for that. His defense is, well,
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Speaker 3: she was killed by an illegal. Legals kill people too,
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Speaker 3: so okay. Apparently, because the fact that there are murderers
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Speaker 3: in the United States, he has no responsibility for releasing
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Speaker 3: more murderers into the United States, more rapist in the
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Speaker 3: United States, more pedophiles into the United States, more terrorists
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Speaker 3: in the United States. That sadly is the record of
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden and every congressional Democrat who has Rubbert stamped
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Speaker 3: this for over three years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you add in on FETNAH on top of that,
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Speaker 2: and then you add in these new issues with terrorists
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Speaker 2: big story that you mentioned earlier, and that is no
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Speaker 2: shock here. The media's lied about Donald Trump and lied
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Speaker 2: about him yet again on something that's just not accurate.
22:16
Speaker 2: And they're also saying that there is going to be
22:20
Speaker 2: a blood bath in the US if Trump isn't elected
22:25
Speaker 2: as president. Again, that's their warning to America.
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Speaker 3: Taken from there, Well, we saw the entire corporate media
22:32
Speaker 3: in Unison report on Trump's rally, and let me read
22:35
Speaker 3: you some of the headlines. NBC News Trump says there
22:39
Speaker 3: will be a quote blood bath if he loses the election.
22:43
Speaker 3: CBS News in Ohio rally, Trump says there will be
22:47
Speaker 3: a quote blood bath if he loses the election. Rolling
22:51
Speaker 3: Stone Trump says there will be a quote blood bath.
22:55
Speaker 3: All of them virtually word for word. And I have
22:58
Speaker 3: to say, when I saw the headlines, look, I was concerned.
23:02
Speaker 3: I had not seen the speech at Ohio. I read
23:05
Speaker 3: all the headlines and I was like, oh, good goodness,
23:07
Speaker 3: I hope he didn't say that. That sounds like a
23:10
Speaker 3: really bad thing to say, like a threat of violence
23:13
Speaker 3: if he loses the election. I mean that that's not
23:15
Speaker 3: a good thing to say. Then I listened to what
23:18
Speaker 3: he actually said, and we're going to play for you
23:21
Speaker 3: in one second what he actually said. And I'm going
23:23
Speaker 3: to tell you if you have not heard what he
23:25
Speaker 3: actually said, if you just saw the headlines, this is
23:28
Speaker 3: going to piss you off because it is totally and
23:32
Speaker 3: completely different than what the media reported on. So listen,
23:36
Speaker 3: listen to the segment of his speech that prompted all
23:38
Speaker 3: those headlines.
23:40
Speaker 4: Mexico has taken, over a period of thirty years, thirty
23:44
Speaker 4: four percent of the automobile manufacturing business in our country.
23:48
Speaker 5: Think of it went to Mexico.
23:50
Speaker 4: China now is building a couple of massive plans where
23:54
Speaker 4: they're going to build the cars in Mexico, and think
23:57
Speaker 4: they think that they're going to sell those cars into
23:59
Speaker 4: the United States with no tax at the border. Let
24:02
Speaker 4: me tell you something to China. If you're listening, Presidency
24:05
Speaker 4: and you and I are friends, but he understands the
24:08
Speaker 4: way ideal those big monster car manufacturing plants that you're
24:13
Speaker 4: building in Mexico right now, and you think you're going
24:16
Speaker 4: to get that, you're going to not hire Americans and
24:19
Speaker 4: you're going to sell the cars. Now, we're going to
24:22
Speaker 4: put a one hundred per tower for in every single
24:24
Speaker 4: car that comes across the line. And you're not going
24:27
Speaker 4: to be able to sell those cars if.
24:29
Speaker 1: I get elected.
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Speaker 4: Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be
24:33
Speaker 4: a blood bath for the whole that's going to be
24:35
Speaker 4: the least of it. It's going to be a blood
24:37
Speaker 4: bath for the country. That'll be the least of it.
24:39
Speaker 4: But they're not going to sell those cars. They're building
24:41
Speaker 4: massive factories. A friend of mine, I.
24:44
Speaker 2: Mean, you can hear where he's going from there. But
24:47
Speaker 2: let's go back to the headlines that you just mentioned.
24:49
Speaker 2: A moment ago, Donald Trump chillingly warns of a blood
24:52
Speaker 2: bath in the US if he isn't elected as president. Again,
24:57
Speaker 2: another headline, NBC News, Rolling Stones, all all of these
25:00
Speaker 2: putting them out there saying the bloodbath Trump described would
25:04
Speaker 2: be in the car industry.
25:05
Speaker 1: Do they say that, No, No, they didn't say at all.
25:07
Speaker 2: They're saying, like, basically, if you don't elect him, there's
25:10
Speaker 2: gonna be a civil war, not even remotely close to
25:14
Speaker 2: what he actually said.
25:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, this is deliberately deceptive. He's talking obviously about
25:21
Speaker 3: the auto industry. He's talking about the loss of manufacturing
25:24
Speaker 3: jobs in the auto industry. He's talking about Joe Biden
25:27
Speaker 3: being unwilling to fight for US jobs, for US manufacturing,
25:30
Speaker 3: for the US auto industry. He's in Ohio where there
25:33
Speaker 3: are a bunch of blue collar workers, a bunch of
25:35
Speaker 3: Ohio workers, and he's saying, if you elect me, I'm
25:38
Speaker 3: gonna fight for US jobs, and if you don't, we're
25:41
Speaker 3: gonna have a blood bath in the auto industry because
25:43
Speaker 3: we're gonna see jobs going away. Now, that is a
25:46
Speaker 3: perfectly normal way to describe the position he's laying out.
25:51
Speaker 3: And you know what, every single reporter who watched it
25:54
Speaker 3: and listened to it, they know that too, And yet
25:58
Speaker 3: they have an agenda. They want to say Trump is
26:02
Speaker 3: threatening violent revolution if he's not elected. That's their narrative.
26:08
Speaker 3: And facts be damned. He said the word bloodbath, that's
26:11
Speaker 3: all we need. No context is necessary. Doesn't matter that
26:14
Speaker 3: he was talking in depth about the auto industry, about factories,
26:18
Speaker 3: about Chinese factories, about factories in Mexico. Doesn't matter that
26:22
Speaker 3: he's talking about putting terroriffs on cars made overseas to
26:26
Speaker 3: protect jobs here. Look, this is a trade debate. We've
26:29
Speaker 3: had trade debates for a long time, and yet the media.
26:33
Speaker 3: This is a great example. NBC News knows they're lying,
26:37
Speaker 3: CBS News knows they're lying. Rolling Stone knows they're lying,
26:42
Speaker 3: and they.
26:42
Speaker 2: Do not the Politico headline, read the political headline for everybody.
26:45
Speaker 2: Are are in part of their I should say in
26:47
Speaker 2: their article. Just read their one statement. You and I
26:50
Speaker 2: were talking about this earlier, and it just tells you
26:52
Speaker 2: how much they're willing to deceive the American people.
26:55
Speaker 3: Well, Politico says, Trump says country faces quote blood bath
27:00
Speaker 3: if Biden wins in November. So they use you use
27:04
Speaker 3: that quote. And then it says in the subhead while
27:06
Speaker 3: it is unclear what the former president meant exactly. The
27:11
Speaker 3: remarks came as Trump was complaining about the automobile industry, complaining,
27:15
Speaker 3: mind you and it's unclear. No, it wasn't unclear, you
27:19
Speaker 3: blithering morons. You know it wasn't unclear. You just want
27:24
Speaker 3: to write that headline. And he said a word that
27:27
Speaker 3: gave you a hook. Okay, that's all we need. We
27:30
Speaker 3: got that word. Let's cut it out of context, go
27:34
Speaker 3: tell our lies. And you know, the media wonders, why
27:37
Speaker 3: does nobody believe the corporate media. It's because no real
27:42
Speaker 3: journalist would listen to that speech and write that headline.
27:45
Speaker 3: And by the way, every journalist whose byline is there
27:49
Speaker 3: ought to demand the headline be corrected. Now, now, one
27:52
Speaker 3: thing to know. Reporters typically don't write headlines. It's the
27:56
Speaker 3: editor that writes the headline. But if your name is
27:59
Speaker 3: going under a head line and the headline is a
28:01
Speaker 3: blatant lie, any reporter with a shred of integrity would
28:06
Speaker 3: say change the headline or I'm retracting the story and
28:09
Speaker 3: denouncing it as misleading. Any reporter with real integrity would
28:14
Speaker 3: resign rather than putting his or her name under a
28:17
Speaker 3: story that was a blatant lie. And yet, you know what,
28:20
Speaker 3: not a one of them has done that. To the
28:22
Speaker 3: best of my knowledge, none of these outlets have corrected
28:25
Speaker 3: or retracted their story. And you know, there's an old
28:29
Speaker 3: line that a lie can make it halfway around the
28:32
Speaker 3: world before the truth even gets its shoes on. This
28:37
Speaker 3: is this will fit like the many other hoaxes, like
28:39
Speaker 3: the Russia hoax, like all of the attacks on Trump
28:42
Speaker 3: that the media has made up. I guarantee you there
28:45
Speaker 3: will be people, millions of people who believe, well, Trump
28:49
Speaker 3: threatened a bloodbath if he doesn't win when he was
28:53
Speaker 3: talking about no, we need us manufacturing jobs at auto
28:56
Speaker 3: jobs in America, and Biden is doing a lousy job
29:00
Speaker 3: fighting for US manufacturing. That's a message a large percentage
29:04
Speaker 3: of America agrees with, and the media wants to just
29:08
Speaker 3: deliberately deceive their readers.
29:11
Speaker 2: It brings me to the final story that you mentioned earlier.
29:14
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny how the media will go
29:17
Speaker 2: and lie to you overclaiming there's this bloodbath if Trump
29:20
Speaker 2: wins and taking it out at taking it out of context.
29:24
Speaker 2: But then you look at another story which you would
29:26
Speaker 2: think they would have reported on over the weekend, and
29:30
Speaker 2: there was complete I would call it malfeasance by not
29:35
Speaker 2: talking about this Joe Biden. They had no problem talking
29:39
Speaker 2: about his son, Hunter Biden when he went to Washington,
29:42
Speaker 2: d C. When he had that press conference when he said,
29:44
Speaker 2: I will not testify behind closed doors because the Republicans
29:47
Speaker 2: are going to lie about what I say, and I
29:49
Speaker 2: will only do it in a public hearing. I demand
29:52
Speaker 2: a public hearing. And there was a big charade, and
29:54
Speaker 2: it was in front of the Capitol where you serve senator.
29:57
Speaker 2: And now we found out that there is a public
30:01
Speaker 2: hearing that's coming, and Hunter Biden has rejected the GOP
30:07
Speaker 2: invitation for the public hearing after demanding that the same
30:11
Speaker 2: GOP give him a damn public hearing and demanded it
30:15
Speaker 2: in Washington in front of the Capitol.
30:18
Speaker 3: Well, this was all theatrics that it was all dishonest,
30:20
Speaker 3: that theatrics by Hunter Biden and his legal team and
30:23
Speaker 3: by Joe Biden and the White House. But as you noted,
30:26
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden said from the beginning that he only wanted
30:29
Speaker 3: to testify in public. He didn't trust a closed door event.
30:31
Speaker 3: He said he was happy to testify in public. So
30:34
Speaker 3: the House has taken him up on it and invited him, said,
30:37
Speaker 3: come testify on March twentieth. We've got a hearing. Devin Archer,
30:40
Speaker 3: Tony Bubbolinski, and Jason Galanis are testifying. By the way,
30:44
Speaker 3: these are individuals Hunter knows very well that he's done
30:47
Speaker 3: business with. Come testify publicly. And immediately the lie was
30:52
Speaker 3: apparent because Hunter Biden said no. Hunter Biden's lawyer refused
30:58
Speaker 3: to go, calling the public hearing a quote blatant planned
31:02
Speaker 3: for media event, and in fact let me read what
31:06
Speaker 3: Abby Lowell, who's Hunter Biden's lawyer, wrote, quote, your blatant
31:10
Speaker 3: plan for media event is not a proper proceeding, but
31:13
Speaker 3: an obvious attempt to throw a hail Mary pass after
31:16
Speaker 3: the game has ended. Let me remind you of a
31:18
Speaker 3: statement you made about how witnesses and specifically mister Biden,
31:22
Speaker 3: could satisfy your prior requests. At your press conference after
31:27
Speaker 3: the January tenth, twenty twenty four committee hearing to hold
31:30
Speaker 3: mister Biden in contempt, you stated, quote, all we need
31:33
Speaker 3: are people to come in for the depositions and then
31:36
Speaker 3: will be finished. We just need people to show up
31:38
Speaker 3: to the depositions and will wrap this up. Nobody wants
31:42
Speaker 3: to wrap this up more than I do. Mister Biden
31:45
Speaker 3: did just as you asked, and as you did when
31:49
Speaker 3: you announced that witnesses could choose depositions. You want to
31:52
Speaker 3: ignore what you said now, let me note you and
31:57
Speaker 3: I had this conversation with James Comer at the time,
32:00
Speaker 3: and James Comber is a good man, he's a friend.
32:02
Speaker 3: He's doing a very good job. I told him. Then
32:06
Speaker 3: on this podcast, forget about the closed door deposition. Hunter
32:11
Speaker 3: is saying he will testify publicly, do it tomorrow, get
32:14
Speaker 3: him on record publicly tomorrow. I wish I could say
32:18
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. Hunter Biden is playing games.
32:23
Speaker 3: He is trying to delay this until after the election.
32:25
Speaker 3: And as I reminded James Comer, Hunter Biden's not the
32:30
Speaker 3: target here. He's not the reason this is a matter
32:32
Speaker 3: of public concern. Joe Biden, the corruption of the President
32:36
Speaker 3: of the United States is the target. And so listen,
32:39
Speaker 3: nothing of me, no part of me. A surprise that
32:42
Speaker 3: Hunter's now saying, oh no, I did the deposition now
32:45
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it. I think the next step
32:47
Speaker 3: is obvious. The House needs to issue a subpoena for
32:50
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden to testify publicly. Hunter will have a choice
32:55
Speaker 3: comply with a subpoena or defy the subpoena. And if
32:58
Speaker 3: he defies the subpoena, the House needs to hold him
33:01
Speaker 3: in contempt. That needs to happen fast. Time is running out.
33:05
Speaker 3: But I got to say, you know all of the bravado,
33:08
Speaker 3: remember we talked about on Verdict. Also, how when the
33:11
Speaker 3: House was having a hearing, Hunter Biden showed up in
33:14
Speaker 3: the hearing room just just gloating. In my view, I
33:18
Speaker 3: wish they had right then said mister Biden, come down
33:21
Speaker 3: to the table, we'll swear you in. Let's go. That's
33:24
Speaker 3: what they should have done. I still think and hope
33:27
Speaker 3: they will get him to testify publicly, but if he
33:31
Speaker 3: avoids public testimony through these games, it will be tragic
33:36
Speaker 3: because this is an effort at off u scation, This
33:39
Speaker 3: is an effort at cover up, This is an effort
33:41
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33:46
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Speaker 2: It's one thing to read the transcripts. You've read them,
35:44
Speaker 2: what's been released. I've read what's been released, We've had
35:47
Speaker 2: reporting on it. But look, there's an aspect of Hunter
35:50
Speaker 2: Biden that could offer, in my opinion, a huge opportunity
35:56
Speaker 2: for conservatives to capitalize on just how corrupt Joe Biden
36:01
Speaker 2: is because you never know what he's gonna say, or
36:04
Speaker 2: how angry he's gonna get, or how self righteous he's
36:07
Speaker 2: gonna be. And part of having a public hearing is
36:10
Speaker 2: getting to ask him those uncomfortable questions that need to
36:13
Speaker 2: be answered. But you don't know what he's gonna do,
36:16
Speaker 2: and that is a, I think, something the American people
36:18
Speaker 2: deserve to see.
36:20
Speaker 3: It's incredibly important. Look, Hunter Biden, I believe is lying.
36:26
Speaker 3: I think he lied in his closed door deposition. I
36:28
Speaker 3: think if he has a public hearing, he will lie.
36:30
Speaker 3: But I also think he's not a very good liar.
36:33
Speaker 3: His lies are facially inconsistent, they're contradictory, and competent cross
36:40
Speaker 3: examination can demonstrate how he is lying to cover up
36:44
Speaker 3: for his father. Now we have a closed door deposition.
36:48
Speaker 3: We have a transcript. A transcript is dry, A transcript
36:51
Speaker 3: is lifeless. A transcript is not going to dominate the
36:54
Speaker 3: evening news. A transcript people are not going to watch
36:57
Speaker 3: and see for themselves and understand the content. The context
37:01
Speaker 3: of this is very much like going into the twenty
37:03
Speaker 3: twenty election. The twenty twenty election. In October of twenty twenty,
37:07
Speaker 3: the news broke of the Hunter Biden laptop. The New
37:10
Speaker 3: York Post broke the story, and we saw big tech
37:15
Speaker 3: silence and censor it. We saw Facebook and Twitter block
37:18
Speaker 3: anyone sharing it. We saw big tech threaten to deplatform
37:22
Speaker 3: any media outlets that reported on it, and media outlets
37:25
Speaker 3: like Politico happily obeyed big Tech and simply kept its secret.
37:30
Speaker 3: What was in the Hunter Biden laptop? Mind you, the
37:33
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden laptop was real, it was accurate, it had
37:36
Speaker 3: evidence of multiple felonies. And mind you, also the Department
37:39
Speaker 3: of Justice and the FBI knew that it was real
37:41
Speaker 3: and accurate because they had the laptop in their possessions
37:44
Speaker 3: and they had had it for over a year. But
37:48
Speaker 3: particularly as you get closer to an election, their objective
37:51
Speaker 3: is do not let the American people see things that
37:55
Speaker 3: demonstrate Joe Biden's criminal culpability. The same thing is true here.
38:00
Speaker 3: Reason to have Hunter Biden testify is so the American
38:03
Speaker 3: people can look him in the eye. You know, the
38:07
Speaker 3: American people are very good at judging credibility. They can
38:09
Speaker 3: tell when somebody is spouting bs, they can tell when
38:13
Speaker 3: they're not telling the truth. And it's harder to tell
38:17
Speaker 3: that when you're reading a transcript. And so in my view,
38:21
Speaker 3: it is critically important to get Hunter Biden in sworn
38:26
Speaker 3: testimony alone. I actually don't think it was a great
38:29
Speaker 3: idea to have him testifying alongside a bunch of other people.
38:32
Speaker 3: I get there's some value in saying, well, so and
38:35
Speaker 3: so said this, how about you? But I think Hunter
38:37
Speaker 3: Biden ought to be alone at that table. I think
38:39
Speaker 3: every question ought to be directed to him, and you
38:41
Speaker 3: can use the answers from the other witnesses to cross
38:44
Speaker 3: examine him. I also hope if and when Hunter testifies,
38:49
Speaker 3: that there's a degree of coordination. One of the problems
38:52
Speaker 3: when you have a hearing is if you've got lots
38:54
Speaker 3: of individual members, lots of House members, each of whom
38:57
Speaker 3: has five minutes, you will often have have people go
39:01
Speaker 3: on marches in one direction or another, and they don't
39:04
Speaker 3: follow up on anything, and it's kind of whatever any
39:06
Speaker 3: individual member wants to do. They just ask that, and
39:09
Speaker 3: some of them are not very good cross examiners, so
39:11
Speaker 3: they can't follow up, and it doesn't present a coherent storyline,
39:16
Speaker 3: it doesn't systematically dismantle the lies. What I hope is
39:22
Speaker 3: that James Comer and or Jim Jordan the chairman, sit
39:25
Speaker 3: down with their Republican members, that they plan out a
39:29
Speaker 3: strategy for the hearing, a strategy for the cross examination
39:33
Speaker 3: that they assign each member of the committee. Okay, you've
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Speaker 3: got this point, this point, Here are the questions that
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Speaker 3: will be helpful to ask, and you drive a systematic message.
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Speaker 3: That's something in the Commerce Committee. I'm the ranking member
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Speaker 3: on the Senate Committee of Commerce, Science, and Transportation. On
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Speaker 3: major hearings, that's exactly what I try to do. In
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Speaker 3: the Senate Judiciary Committee, we have done that on multiple hearings,
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Speaker 3: for example, the Brett Kavanaugh hearing that was a major fire.
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Speaker 3: We sat and we strategized exactly how we were going
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Speaker 3: to handle the cross examination, the messaging. I hope the
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Speaker 3: House does that, but none of that matters unless you
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Speaker 3: get Hunter at the witness stand, sworn in and on
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Speaker 3: national television, because listen, if Hunter's testifying. As much as
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Speaker 3: the media wants to hide it from the American people,
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Speaker 3: they cannot completely do so. And it gives the American
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Speaker 3: people the chance to decide is the President of the
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Speaker 3: United States corrupt? Has he taken bribes from Chinese Communists,
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Speaker 3: from Russians, from Ukrainians, from foreign oligarchs. It lets the
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Speaker 3: American people decide. When Hunter sent a WhatsApp text to
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Speaker 3: a Chinese communist threatening his father's punishment if the Chinese
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Speaker 3: communist didn't send him millions of dollars, was Dad complicit
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Speaker 3: in that shakedown? I think the answer is obviously yes.
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Speaker 3: But seeing Hunter being forced to answer those questions goes
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Speaker 3: a long way to letting the American people decide based
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Speaker 3: on the facts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, great point.
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