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- 0:24Speaker 2: said all that, Now let's get this show started. My
- 0:26Speaker 2: next guess is a nationally recognized author, podcaster, and motivational
- 0:30Speaker 2: speaker whose storytelling journey begin on a sixty acre cotton
- 0:35Speaker 2: farm in with Tompka, Alabama, which is right outside of Montgomery,
- 0:39Speaker 2: where she was born. The third of seventeen children, Now
- 0:43Speaker 2: retired it executive. A bestselling memoir, Daddy's House, a daughter's
- 0:48Speaker 2: memoir of setbacks, triumphs, and rising above her roots, offers
- 0:52Speaker 2: a raw and healing account of childhood, trauma, domestic violence,
- 0:56Speaker 2: and resilience. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Master Class.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Mildred J.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Mills. Hey, don Mildred, Well how about you miss Mills?
- 1:05Speaker 3: Which which way, Mildred is wonderful, great, you look very fashionable.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Is fashionate part of your past and your current future?
- 1:13Speaker 3: Well we move forward?
- 1:15Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about that. No, no, no, I
- 1:18Speaker 4: was a model at one point, but I.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Also okay, you see you model at what point?
- 1:22Speaker 4: I was? But I also grew up picking cotton, so
- 1:24Speaker 4: there were no modeling in that in that field?
- 1:26Speaker 2: How do you balance? How did how did that happen
- 1:28Speaker 2: to go from? Because that's part of your intro cotton,
- 1:32Speaker 2: you know, And you hear that word cotton, you hear
- 1:34Speaker 2: hard work, you hear slavery, you hear South.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Did I miss anything?
- 1:41Speaker 4: No, you didn't. It's so funny that you should mention slavery.
- 1:44Speaker 4: When I one of my nieces told her little boy
- 1:48Speaker 4: that I had written a book. He said, and he said,
- 1:52Speaker 4: she grew up picking cotton. He said, WHOA were you
- 1:55Speaker 4: a slave? I said, no, I wasn't a slave, but
- 1:59Speaker 4: I worked on daddy's far.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Tell us about picking cotton? What was that like?
- 2:04Speaker 4: Oh, it's a it's a brutal business, it really really
- 2:06Speaker 4: is it. You know, think about being a little girl
- 2:09Speaker 4: sticking your fingers in those bulls. I don't know bulls
- 2:12Speaker 4: as in bol l not bill w Well, it just
- 2:15Speaker 4: kind of tears your cuticles up.
- 2:17Speaker 3: You know, it's it's hard. You have to bend your back.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Of course, when you're little you have to you can
- 2:22Speaker 4: reach up, but as you grow older you have to bend.
- 2:24Speaker 4: So you're bent at a ninety degree angle all day
- 2:26Speaker 4: picking cotton. And it's a it's a nasty business and
- 2:29Speaker 4: it hurts.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Now as you're growing up.
- 2:32Speaker 2: You know your book, I got to copy your book,
- 2:34Speaker 2: Daddy's House, A Dolter's memoir of set back triumphs and
- 2:38Speaker 2: rising above her roots?
- 2:39Speaker 3: What are you saying in this title?
- 2:42Speaker 4: What I'm saying in that title is where I grew
- 2:45Speaker 4: up was in my daddy's house, and nobody there was
- 2:48Speaker 4: no confusion about who ruled that house.
- 2:51Speaker 3: That was my daddy.
- 2:51Speaker 4: But what I'm saying in that title about a daughter's
- 2:55Speaker 4: memoir of growing up and rising above her roots, You know,
- 3:00Speaker 4: it doesn't matter where you're born. I was born in
- 3:02Speaker 4: a place on a sixty acre farm where my father was.
- 3:06Speaker 3: He was pretty.
- 3:07Speaker 4: He was a rough guy, but he taught me so
- 3:10Speaker 4: much about life, and so I rose above those routes
- 3:13Speaker 4: by becoming somebody. As a child, I was who my
- 3:17Speaker 4: father and my mother wanted me to be. But as
- 3:19Speaker 4: a woman, I was determined to be myself. I didn't
- 3:22Speaker 4: know who that was as a child, but as I grew,
- 3:24Speaker 4: you know, I just decided that I wanted something different
- 3:29Speaker 4: for myself.
- 3:30Speaker 3: So why was important you write a book? It was important,
- 3:33Speaker 3: well after age sixty.
- 3:34Speaker 4: I think so many of us have so much knowledge
- 3:37Speaker 4: after a certain age. You know, when you're twenty, what
- 3:40Speaker 4: are you going to talk about? You know, how bad
- 3:42Speaker 4: your parents treated you, those kind of things. But after
- 3:45Speaker 4: age sixty, and especially I think as a black woman
- 3:48Speaker 4: growing up in the South and noticing so many changes
- 3:52Speaker 4: that happened. Some of them were amazing, you know, but
- 3:55Speaker 4: then there are some other things that like I never
- 3:58Speaker 4: ever as a child, so a white only sign all
- 4:02Speaker 4: those things, even though I grew up in the fifties
- 4:04Speaker 4: and the sixties. So I thought that it was important
- 4:07Speaker 4: to write this book to first of all, heal myself
- 4:10Speaker 4: from some of the things that I did experience as
- 4:12Speaker 4: a child and that I did experience as an adult
- 4:16Speaker 4: as an adult, but also to tell about some of
- 4:19Speaker 4: the beautiful things that happened to me and as a
- 4:23Speaker 4: woman and as a person. I think about buying my
- 4:25Speaker 4: first house and I didn't realize that when I bought
- 4:28Speaker 4: that house in nineteen seventy six, that it was only
- 4:31Speaker 4: the year before that a woman could get credit in
- 4:34Speaker 4: her own name.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I mean, you just think about these things. And I
- 4:37Speaker 3: was so.
- 4:38Speaker 4: You know, they say ignorance is bliss, and I absolutely
- 4:41Speaker 4: believe that, because I was ignorant to the fact that,
- 4:43Speaker 4: first of all, women hadn't been able to do these things.
- 4:46Speaker 4: And when I met the realtor, he said, you're divorced.
- 4:49Speaker 4: I said I am, and he said we don't normally
- 4:52Speaker 4: sell houses to divorced women.
- 4:54Speaker 3: And I thought, wow, well I really don't care. I
- 4:56Speaker 3: want to buy to seventy six. This was nineteen seventy six.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Yes, that's you know, when you think about it that
- 5:04Speaker 2: you know slavery, you talk about emancipation, you talk about
- 5:08Speaker 2: the voting right acts.
- 5:10Speaker 3: It's not that far apart. It's not that far that
- 5:13Speaker 3: I was living during all those things.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Now, when you this is a very honest book that
- 5:19Speaker 2: you've written, you're married.
- 5:21Speaker 3: I am when you.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Thought about this idea of pretty much confessing about your
- 5:31Speaker 2: past and offer it as motivation for others who realize
- 5:35Speaker 2: you overcome the odds. Oh, this is about overcoming their odds.
- 5:39Speaker 2: It is what was it conversation like with your husband.
- 5:43Speaker 4: I didn't have a conversation with my husband about writing
- 5:45Speaker 4: my book. The first time my husband knew what was
- 5:49Speaker 4: in that book was when he read it.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Was it published? Yeah? What was it published? When you
- 5:55Speaker 3: read it? I was finished with it for sure. I
- 5:59Speaker 3: think it might have been published me too, pull it
- 6:09Speaker 3: back those memories. Yeah, it was absolutely it was published. Okay,
- 6:13Speaker 3: it was published. Okay, why did you do it that way?
- 6:16Speaker 3: Because first of all, it is my story?
- 6:20Speaker 4: And second of all, you know, the more people you
- 6:22Speaker 4: stick you say, well, what do you think about this?
- 6:24Speaker 3: What do you think?
- 6:25Speaker 4: I'm not sure I really care what anybody thinks about it,
- 6:28Speaker 4: because it is my story and I wanted to be
- 6:31Speaker 4: an honest story. And you know, I remember being in
- 6:35Speaker 4: a writing group one time and this woman and this
- 6:38Speaker 4: is before I published anything, so and this person would
- 6:42Speaker 4: always say all these negative things, and you know, you
- 6:44Speaker 4: get all this stuff stuck in your head and you think, well,
- 6:47Speaker 4: why would I write a book? You know, nobody's gonna
- 6:49Speaker 4: read it, nobody's going to like it, all these things.
- 6:51Speaker 4: So when I decided that I was going to write
- 6:54Speaker 4: this story, I just sat down. I worked with a
- 6:57Speaker 4: mentor and I wrote it, and I did it that
- 7:00Speaker 4: way because I didn't want anybody telling me, well, why
- 7:03Speaker 4: didn't you remember memoir? It is my story, and if
- 7:06Speaker 4: you have a different one, you tell it.
- 7:08Speaker 2: But in telling the story, and you have somebody you love, yes,
- 7:12Speaker 2: and you still move forward with this honest telling. And
- 7:18Speaker 2: I want to say, the honest telling is Daddy's House,
- 7:20Speaker 2: a daughter's memoir, memoir of set back triumphs and rising
- 7:24Speaker 2: above her roots.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I'm speaking with Mildred J.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Mills, the author of this basically an autobiography of her
- 7:31Speaker 2: life of a resilience. What does resilience mean to you?
- 7:34Speaker 2: And I will get back to your husband, but I
- 7:36Speaker 2: want to get the resilience first.
- 7:38Speaker 4: Resilience to me me, Well, I'm an aries woman. Let
- 7:41Speaker 4: me just say that, you know, and I mean that
- 7:45Speaker 4: doesn't define me. But I am just willing to take
- 7:48Speaker 4: chances first of all. And resilience means to me, when
- 7:52Speaker 4: you get knocked down, get up, don't lay there wallowing
- 7:55Speaker 4: in it. I've said to my children before. I remember
- 7:58Speaker 4: driving my son, or flying on an airplane with my
- 8:01Speaker 4: son headed to University of Michigan when he was starting college,
- 8:05Speaker 4: and I said, we all have we all have.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Set That was your son with your first husband.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Right, that's no, my son is my youngest child.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I apologize, that's right. Yeah.
- 8:14Speaker 4: But anyway, I said to him, we all fall. But
- 8:18Speaker 4: it isn't the bump in the road that you hit.
- 8:21Speaker 4: It's whether you sit there and stay in it. I said,
- 8:23Speaker 4: a car hits a bump, you got to keep moving
- 8:25Speaker 4: or you're stuck.
- 8:26Speaker 3: So resilience to me means move on.
- 8:30Speaker 4: I'm no victim. I've never been a victim, and I'm
- 8:32Speaker 4: not going to be a victim. So resilience means just lord,
- 8:37Speaker 4: take those lessons and learn from you.
- 8:39Speaker 3: And read your book. I don't want to. I never
- 8:42Speaker 3: saw you as a victim in this book. I'm not actim.
- 8:44Speaker 3: And I want to make sure.
- 8:45Speaker 2: People understand that this is a book about her life,
- 8:48Speaker 2: about the relationships the men who came into her life.
- 8:51Speaker 2: The man who's currently in her life is supporting her,
- 8:54Speaker 2: and I love her, loves her dealers, she loves him
- 8:59Speaker 2: and the children that are in her life. But along
- 9:01Speaker 2: the way, we all have bumps in the road. And
- 9:04Speaker 2: this is an entrepreneurial show. It's based on motivation. You're
- 9:07Speaker 2: an influencer, your podcaster, from an entrepreneurial stand, from a
- 9:12Speaker 2: small business owner, how do you equate resilience to them
- 9:18Speaker 2: when they are struggling to overcome their odds.
- 9:21Speaker 4: Well, I get up and look in that mirror every
- 9:25Speaker 4: day and I say, you know, you've been through some things,
- 9:27Speaker 4: But guess what you can teach somebody else to keep
- 9:31Speaker 4: moving through these things, because just you can't teach resilience.
- 9:37Speaker 4: I don't think. I think you either have it or
- 9:40Speaker 4: you don't.
- 9:40Speaker 3: That's true. I really believe that.
- 9:42Speaker 4: And to me, failure is not an option. It's never
- 9:47Speaker 4: been an option for me. So if I hit a bump,
- 9:50Speaker 4: I knew I wasn't going back to that cotton field.
- 9:53Speaker 4: I grew up picking cotton. So I figured out how
- 9:55Speaker 4: to keep moving forward. And not only that, I hear
- 9:57Speaker 4: my mother's voice in my ear saying, do the best
- 10:00Speaker 4: you can what you have.
- 10:02Speaker 3: And I didn't always.
- 10:03Speaker 4: I couldn't always sit here in a nice, as you say,
- 10:06Speaker 4: fashionable kind of way, you know, But she said.
- 10:10Speaker 3: She's very fashionable. For everybody who's listening to the show.
- 10:13Speaker 3: I can't see her.
- 10:15Speaker 4: Yeah, but she said, if you only have one dress,
- 10:18Speaker 4: or if you only had one she said, pair of underwear,
- 10:21Speaker 4: whatever that is. She said, wash it the night before,
- 10:24Speaker 4: get your tail in the bed, and get up in
- 10:25Speaker 4: the morning and put it on. And I've done that now, yeah,
- 10:28Speaker 4: I've been there, so have I, you know, and it's okay.
- 10:31Speaker 4: And so she taught pride, so that resilience. I think
- 10:35Speaker 4: there's a lot of pride in being resilient. You know,
- 10:37Speaker 4: you get knocked down, and I can't imagine going telling
- 10:41Speaker 4: my father. I wouldn't have told my parents, well I'm
- 10:43Speaker 4: struggling out here, because he would have said, I got
- 10:45Speaker 4: a cotton sack with.
- 10:46Speaker 5: Your name on, so you're never going to pick up again. No, no, now,
- 10:51Speaker 5: let's get back to my favorite person to husband. Book
- 10:53Speaker 5: comes out, you can't tell them anything about it. When
- 10:56Speaker 5: did he start reading, how did he read it? And
- 10:58Speaker 5: did he finish it?
- 10:59Speaker 2: When he read it or did he comment on certain
- 11:02Speaker 2: parts of the book as he was going through the
- 11:05Speaker 2: process of reading it.
- 11:06Speaker 4: He did not say a word. I handed him the
- 11:09Speaker 4: book when it came out, and I said, I know
- 11:14Speaker 4: you don't like to read.
- 11:15Speaker 3: He doesn't like to read books.
- 11:16Speaker 4: He my husband reads all the time, but he does
- 11:19Speaker 4: he won't pick up a book to read it. So
- 11:23Speaker 4: I handed him that book. I said, no, no, but
- 11:25Speaker 4: here's my story, most of it, most of it, you know.
- 11:30Speaker 4: And when he finished, he said, on this one point,
- 11:35Speaker 4: he said, you didn't tell me such and such. I said,
- 11:38Speaker 4: when I met you, I had two children, you know,
- 11:41Speaker 4: and when I met you you had a child. I said,
- 11:44Speaker 4: we had lives. And I said, I've told as much
- 11:47Speaker 4: as I could. But you know, when you're sitting to
- 11:50Speaker 4: write your book, sometimes things come to you.
- 11:53Speaker 3: That's very true. I've been unfortunate, I would.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Steven Ah Smith is one of my clients, and I
- 11:59Speaker 2: worked with his on his memoir Straight Shooter.
- 12:02Speaker 3: I loved his book.
- 12:03Speaker 2: And as we were going through and the storytelling it,
- 12:08Speaker 2: actually your mind kind of like blocks out, especially blocks
- 12:12Speaker 2: out bad stuff.
- 12:13Speaker 3: It does.
- 12:13Speaker 2: And as you start writing, you started remembering things and
- 12:17Speaker 2: the details of your mind is really impressive when it
- 12:20Speaker 2: starts revealing details. Tell us about that whole storytelling, like
- 12:24Speaker 2: your husband, you.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Didn't tell it because guess what, you probably didn't remember it.
- 12:29Speaker 4: Right, And that isn't what our life has been about,
- 12:31Speaker 4: is just sitting there telling you every detail of my life,
- 12:34Speaker 4: you know, because how boring is that usually, but sitting
- 12:38Speaker 4: there writing that book, like for instance, things, I worked
- 12:44Speaker 4: in it for almost forty years. I started out as
- 12:46Speaker 4: an eighteen year old girl back in nineteen sixty nine,
- 12:49Speaker 4: learning how to come how to how to program computer boards.
- 12:54Speaker 4: So computers have memory, and you know, and whenever you
- 12:58Speaker 4: needed you go in. I mean there's an or whatever
- 13:00Speaker 4: and it goes and picks up that data or whatever.
- 13:03Speaker 4: So as you're writing, all these things come back that
- 13:05Speaker 4: you haven't thought about in forever. So you know, absolutely
- 13:09Speaker 4: I didn't. But anyway, when he finished it, I said,
- 13:12Speaker 4: so you read my story of setbacks, triumphs and rising
- 13:17Speaker 4: above my roots, and that's what you brought to me.
- 13:20Speaker 3: I said, come on absolutely. Yeah.
- 13:26Speaker 4: After then, so of course you then you start seeing
- 13:28Speaker 4: the Amazon reviews come out and they are all these
- 13:31Speaker 4: things like, oh my god, how courageous, how brave to
- 13:35Speaker 4: tell that story, you know, And I.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Said, please don't go anywhere.
- 13:40Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me
- 13:51Speaker 2: Rashaun McDonald. You know, I love your story. I love
- 13:55Speaker 2: stories about individuals come out.
- 13:59Speaker 3: One of my face.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Every people's attorney tesse efforts. You know she had. She
- 14:04Speaker 2: she's now very popular, a lawyer, an attorney, and a
- 14:09Speaker 2: firm in the city of Atlanta. Had two children before
- 14:13Speaker 2: the age of eighteen. She had five kids before she
- 14:15Speaker 2: was thirty. And her resilience. And I have to use
- 14:20Speaker 2: that word because, like you said, that that's something you're
- 14:23Speaker 2: born with. You know, you can be born with being stubborn,
- 14:26Speaker 2: you can born with being outspoken.
- 14:30Speaker 3: I guess resilience guides me.
- 14:33Speaker 2: I think the ability to be able to not accept
- 14:36Speaker 2: failure guides me. Now, let's talk about going back to
- 14:42Speaker 2: the cotton form, because that was an environment. Seventeen kids, yes.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Okay, third seventeen children.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Yes, how did you get out?
- 14:52Speaker 4: How did I get out of the cotton field? Interestingly enough,
- 14:55Speaker 4: back in nineteen sixty seven, my father decided to send
- 15:00Speaker 4: us I should say my parents, but it was my
- 15:02Speaker 4: father's decision to send us to an all white school.
- 15:06Speaker 4: It was in our all black we were in the
- 15:09Speaker 4: middle of segregation and it was you could volunteer to
- 15:13Speaker 4: send your children to a white school as a black parent,
- 15:17Speaker 4: and my father decided to send us to a white school.
- 15:21Speaker 4: So during that time, I had a social studies teacher
- 15:24Speaker 4: who would read from these books.
- 15:26Speaker 3: I mean we read. She taught et cetera.
- 15:28Speaker 4: And she would when she read about negroes, which is
- 15:33Speaker 4: what we recalled back then, she would say nigra And
- 15:37Speaker 4: it was just such a it just made the hair
- 15:39Speaker 4: on the back of your next stand up.
- 15:41Speaker 5: Think.
- 15:41Speaker 4: And this lady is oviicually educated, so you mean to
- 15:45Speaker 4: tell me. But anyway, so I thought that she was
- 15:48Speaker 4: a racist. I mean I didn't. I thought she had
- 15:51Speaker 4: something against black children, that's who she was teaching. But
- 15:55Speaker 4: in my senior year, this lady asked me to come
- 15:58Speaker 4: to her office. She says, what you going to do
- 16:01Speaker 4: when after high school? And I said I'm not sure.
- 16:04Speaker 4: She said, do you think your father would let you
- 16:05Speaker 4: go away? I said I don't know. And she said, well,
- 16:08Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a test, and she did it,
- 16:10Speaker 4: and I now know that that was the act test,
- 16:13Speaker 4: and she said, you scored very high in the math area,
- 16:16Speaker 4: very high math aptitude. So one day she gives me
- 16:19Speaker 4: this envelope, a white envelope and it's sealed, and she says,
- 16:22Speaker 4: say take this to your father. And now I know
- 16:25Speaker 4: that inside that envelope was information about this technology school
- 16:31Speaker 4: to learn how to program computer boards and keep unch.
- 16:35Speaker 3: So to my father's credit.
- 16:38Speaker 4: And he said to me the day before he drove
- 16:41Speaker 4: me to Ohio, who do you think is going to
- 16:44Speaker 4: Who do you think is going to do all that
- 16:46Speaker 4: work we've taught you how to do? Because I did
- 16:49Speaker 4: a lot of things that some of the other children didn't.
- 16:51Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, how is that my problem?
- 16:53Speaker 3: I don't know?
- 16:55Speaker 4: And I did say I said, I don't know, and
- 16:57Speaker 4: he said, well, I'm going to talk to Mama tonight.
- 17:00Speaker 4: We're going to decide whether we can still let you go.
- 17:02Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, I've never done anything except
- 17:06Speaker 4: be just this obedient child and done everything you've ever
- 17:10Speaker 4: asked me to do. And I thought, you better make
- 17:12Speaker 4: the right decision because I'm out of here. Whether you
- 17:15Speaker 4: I'm saying this to myself absolutely or whatever, but that's
- 17:19Speaker 4: how I got out. And they actually allowed me to leave.
- 17:23Speaker 4: And not only did he allow me to leave, he
- 17:26Speaker 4: paid cash for my education five hundred dollars back in
- 17:30Speaker 4: nineteen sixty.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Nine, which is a lot of money, A lot of
- 17:32Speaker 3: money at Fort Farmer. Right.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, okay, was your father
- 17:36Speaker 2: a cotton picker?
- 17:37Speaker 3: Or did he have another job or that was his job.
- 17:40Speaker 3: My father was a brick mason and a carpenter.
- 17:43Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, and he now during during the cotton picking kill.
- 17:49Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, my father was a Yeah. In fact, he
- 17:52Speaker 4: built he built my aunt's house by himself. I'm just
- 17:56Speaker 4: saying he yeah, he had Yeah, he had a skill.
- 17:58Speaker 4: In fact, in the winter time when they're us no
- 18:00Speaker 4: cotton to pick and no way to earn money and
- 18:02Speaker 4: feed his family through that farm, he traveled to Mississippi
- 18:08Speaker 4: and Louisiana to He left out on a Sunday night
- 18:11Speaker 4: with his chicken and all this stuff packed in a
- 18:15Speaker 4: packed and then he came back on Friday nights. And
- 18:17Speaker 4: I tell you he was a rough fella in that house.
- 18:20Speaker 4: But when we saw him coming home on a Friday night,
- 18:22Speaker 4: his children were running out the house, just welcoming daddy home.
- 18:26Speaker 2: You know, when you leave that world, you know now
- 18:31Speaker 2: you're into another world, another space. How did the men
- 18:36Speaker 2: get introduced into your life? The very first one that
- 18:38Speaker 2: had an important role in your life?
- 18:40Speaker 4: The first the person that had the first man that
- 18:44Speaker 4: had a role in my life was my first boyfriend
- 18:47Speaker 4: and I met him at a night club years two.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Other girlfriend didn't think highly correct.
- 18:54Speaker 4: No, no, no she did, she told you, yes she did,
- 18:57Speaker 4: but she wasn't very good either, very nice.
- 19:01Speaker 6: No.
- 19:01Speaker 4: But I met my first boyfriend at a night club.
- 19:04Speaker 4: He was singing A Change is Gonna Come.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Sam and Cook, Yeah, my favorite song.
- 19:10Speaker 4: Yeah, I met I met him there, and actually I
- 19:13Speaker 4: dearly I loved I dearly loved that guy.
- 19:15Speaker 3: You know, it was my first love.
- 19:17Speaker 4: And so but when something terrible happened in my life,
- 19:23Speaker 4: I didn't have his phone number, any of these kind
- 19:25Speaker 4: of things. So I evaporate. I we evaporated out of
- 19:28Speaker 4: each other's lives and that.
- 19:31Speaker 2: But that's part of life. But one of the three
- 19:33Speaker 2: words you live by is what fear?
- 19:37Speaker 3: Fear, faith, not faith. Faith over fear, Faith over faith
- 19:42Speaker 3: over fear are the three words you live by.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Now, A lot of people use the word faith when
- 19:48Speaker 2: they are when they're making decisions, they are fear. Faith
- 19:53Speaker 2: comes into everybody's life, you know, But fear over faith.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Explain that to us, Faith over fear, faith fires.
- 20:01Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, fear is something that kind of sits
- 20:05Speaker 4: on your shoulder and tells you you're not good enough.
- 20:07Speaker 4: Beer is something that sits on your shoulder. And say,
- 20:10Speaker 4: what makes you think you should be in this sitting
- 20:13Speaker 4: in this seat talking to Rushan McDonald. You know, for
- 20:17Speaker 4: goodness sake, that's a pretty Yeah, that's that's really something.
- 20:21Speaker 4: But faith is you know, you walk to a door.
- 20:24Speaker 4: I heard a sermon this past Sunday and this guy said,
- 20:27Speaker 4: when I think about faith, I think about Goldilocks. He says,
- 20:31Speaker 4: you think about Goldilocks walking into a bear's house.
- 20:34Speaker 3: You know.
- 20:34Speaker 4: She said, I'm tired. She went and sat in somebody's chairs.
- 20:37Speaker 4: She said, I'm sleepy. She laid in that bed. You know,
- 20:39Speaker 4: so the door was there, you just walk through it, right,
- 20:43Speaker 4: just having faith that you know, if I get on
- 20:46Speaker 4: the other side of that door, there's something that can
- 20:48Speaker 4: help me move on through this this thing called life.
- 20:52Speaker 6: So well, i'd buy that if it was a real story.
- 20:56Speaker 6: It goes locks into three baths, you know, No, I
- 20:58Speaker 6: did after the show.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel kind of that same way. You know,
- 21:04Speaker 3: if you I think that in life.
- 21:06Speaker 2: You know, the reason I'm impressed with you and impressed
- 21:10Speaker 2: with the people that come on my show is I
- 21:13Speaker 2: try to delve into the truths because there's so many
- 21:17Speaker 2: people out there that are living life, dreaming, about options,
- 21:21Speaker 2: dreaming about in pain, and so you wrote a book,
- 21:26Speaker 2: and your book is telling your pain, and you're using
- 21:29Speaker 2: that pain to motivate others. And I try to translate
- 21:32Speaker 2: to to entrepreneurs, influencers and small business owners because that's
- 21:39Speaker 2: what you are doing. You know, I'm not you know
- 21:42Speaker 2: there are people working forty our week jobs. But I
- 21:46Speaker 2: really do believe that what you do and what you're saying,
- 21:51Speaker 2: it's a different type of person that takes this story
- 21:54Speaker 2: and values and even more so not saying that the
- 21:56Speaker 2: forty hour week person doesn't. But when you make a
- 21:59Speaker 2: commitment meant to be an entrepreneur, you have walked through
- 22:03Speaker 2: a different lane of life. You said, look, I'm betting
- 22:07Speaker 2: on myself. That's when you got in that called your
- 22:10Speaker 2: dad and he told you, hey, me and mom got
- 22:13Speaker 2: to talk. You went, Dad, you don't when I'm gone.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Talk all you want to. My time on this war
- 22:20Speaker 3: is over is gone.
- 22:22Speaker 2: And then when you got out there, you know, the
- 22:23Speaker 2: teachers saw something in you academically and gave you an
- 22:27Speaker 2: option that you didn't even see. Because that's about mentorship.
- 22:31Speaker 2: That's about I will tell people, and I repeat the
- 22:34Speaker 2: story a lot. When I was fifteen years old. My
- 22:37Speaker 2: first job because my father was a truck driver. He
- 22:40Speaker 2: took me to get a job loading boxes. And the
- 22:43Speaker 2: first guys who impressed me were forkliff drivers, these black guys.
- 22:46Speaker 3: They were driving a forklift. Boy. There I was like,
- 22:50Speaker 3: I was like, my mom was dropped over. I couldn't
- 22:52Speaker 3: believe it.
- 22:53Speaker 2: And so, despite all my academic training in high school,
- 22:56Speaker 2: the job I wanted was to be a fork cliff driver.
- 22:59Speaker 2: And so when I got out of high school, I
- 23:01Speaker 2: became a forklift driver because that's all I wanted to be,
- 23:04Speaker 2: because that's all I thought I could be. But somebody
- 23:08Speaker 2: told you, no, you could be more than that. So
- 23:12Speaker 2: you've lived your life with somebody planting that sea is.
- 23:16Speaker 3: That's what this book about.
- 23:18Speaker 4: That book is about that because my mom always said
- 23:21Speaker 4: my mom and I talk about my children, and my
- 23:24Speaker 4: grandkids probably get sick of me saying what Mama told me.
- 23:27Speaker 4: Mama said, do the best you can what you have,
- 23:30Speaker 4: and whatever that is, you know you can always do
- 23:33Speaker 4: better if you just keep looking for keep your eyes
- 23:36Speaker 4: on the prize, keep looking. She said, don't be like me,
- 23:40Speaker 4: And I thought, Mama, what's wrong with you? She said,
- 23:43Speaker 4: don't allow somebody else to always have to hand you something.
- 23:47Speaker 4: She said, don't put yourself, she said, I want my
- 23:49Speaker 4: girls to have something for themselves. I always want you
- 23:53Speaker 4: to have something for yourself. And that always stayed with me.
- 23:57Speaker 4: And I remember my first husband said to me once that, well,
- 24:00Speaker 4: what are you gonna What do you want to go
- 24:02Speaker 4: get a job for. I said, I have a child
- 24:05Speaker 4: to take care of. And he said but and I thought,
- 24:09Speaker 4: but you're.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Not worthing me. You know, I'm gone.
- 24:12Speaker 4: And not only that, I said, God gave me gifts
- 24:16Speaker 4: that I must share, right, you know, and I'm going
- 24:19Speaker 4: to share the gift of my hands and my talent
- 24:21Speaker 4: and all these things. I'm going to get out of
- 24:23Speaker 4: here and go to work and I will never ever
- 24:26Speaker 4: My mother said, have something for yourself, and I thought,
- 24:29Speaker 4: I'm never going to have to. I'm not going to
- 24:31Speaker 4: depend on somebody else.
- 24:33Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you this question.
- 24:34Speaker 2: At eighteen years of age, you left the house, right, okay,
- 24:37Speaker 2: and you spend a dominant amount of your life not
- 24:41Speaker 2: in your father's house. Why is the name of your
- 24:43Speaker 2: book Daddy's House?
- 24:45Speaker 4: Because I mean, even when I left that house, when
- 24:49Speaker 4: I would go back to that house and Also when
- 24:52Speaker 4: my mother passed, we always said, we go into Daddy's house.
- 24:56Speaker 4: And I still see in that house. I was the
- 24:58Speaker 4: first of those seventeen children born in that house, and
- 25:03Speaker 4: it's still standing today. And when we and I have
- 25:06Speaker 4: three siblings who have built a house on the property
- 25:10Speaker 4: that I grew up on, and my parents left us
- 25:13Speaker 4: acreage on that property. So for you, at Christmas time
- 25:18Speaker 4: or Thanksgiving time, we go to Daddy's house, you know,
- 25:21Speaker 4: and we still call it Daddy's house. I call it
- 25:23Speaker 4: Daddy's house because that was very fond to me. And
- 25:26Speaker 4: actually a book person told me, well, I don't like
- 25:31Speaker 4: the name Daddy's house. And I said, I do you know.
- 25:34Speaker 4: I like the name of Daddy's house. And then I like,
- 25:36Speaker 4: you know what comes after that?
- 25:38Speaker 2: Well, I think it's important to tell your story. I
- 25:40Speaker 2: can question it. I can question it. I've been fortunate
- 25:44Speaker 2: in my life to be a storyteller. I like to
- 25:46Speaker 2: tell people I am a storyteller because I hear so
- 25:48Speaker 2: many stories. And I see you read so many different books,
- 25:51Speaker 2: and and but what I can read books about motivation,
- 25:55Speaker 2: I go, I do that. I can read books about
- 25:58Speaker 2: planning and goals. I said, I do that. But I
- 26:01Speaker 2: can't when I read this book, this is your fuck.
- 26:04Speaker 2: I wasn't in daddy's house. I was not picking college.
- 26:08Speaker 3: You were.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Nobody drove me to a school. In fact, my father
- 26:11Speaker 2: didn't want me to go to college.
- 26:12Speaker 3: You know.
- 26:13Speaker 2: He wanted my sisters to go to college because he
- 26:15Speaker 2: thought that was what they were.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Supposed to do.
- 26:17Speaker 2: But he thought I should be doing manual label. That
- 26:19Speaker 2: was the house I grew up in, and that was
- 26:21Speaker 2: my father's value. So I'm not upset with him because
- 26:25Speaker 2: I did.
- 26:25Speaker 3: Like you. I don't care what you do. I don't
- 26:28Speaker 3: care what you say. Dad. I'm going to college. I'm
- 26:30Speaker 3: going to do this.
- 26:31Speaker 2: And I need to understand why I was going to
- 26:33Speaker 2: college because a teacher saw something in me and pushed
- 26:36Speaker 2: me to go to college after I made a commit
- 26:38Speaker 2: the commitment to be a fuck lyft driver.
- 26:40Speaker 3: And so that's what that's what my dream. I was
- 26:43Speaker 3: gonna mean, what else is there? Right? Right?
- 26:46Speaker 2: Because that's all I knew. But so many people see
- 26:49Speaker 2: things in you that goes beyond that. So as you
- 26:51Speaker 2: go through life, I know in your book there's a
- 26:54Speaker 2: there's a pimp in your life, and there was a
- 26:56Speaker 2: lead to me.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Now I just want people to know because of you know,
- 27:05Speaker 1: but those are the moments when life.
- 27:07Speaker 2: I can tell you some stories in my life where
- 27:10Speaker 2: even though I didn't tell drugs, I was in drug
- 27:12Speaker 2: related environments, you know, and because that's what life is.
- 27:16Speaker 2: But as for aspiring entrepreneurs and creators, what advice do
- 27:21Speaker 2: you give them based on who you are and what
- 27:24Speaker 2: you've accomplished as a person who came from this point
- 27:27Speaker 2: in life, got educated, has had children, went in to
- 27:34Speaker 2: the direction of it, and we know they weren't.
- 27:36Speaker 3: Talking it on that cotton form.
- 27:41Speaker 4: Talk to us, having come from where I came from.
- 27:46Speaker 4: You know, I just say dream We're not dreaming big
- 27:50Speaker 4: enough some of us.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Right, Why do you say that?
- 27:53Speaker 4: I say that because, well, you didn't dream very big,
- 27:56Speaker 4: but something took you outside.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Yeah, something took you outside of that.
- 28:00Speaker 4: In fact, open your mind up to see something. Besides,
- 28:04Speaker 4: you're in the environment you're living in. How many people
- 28:07Speaker 4: do you know have never left their hometown? There is
- 28:11Speaker 4: nothing better than this. Well, you know, I'm a very
- 28:14Speaker 4: curious woman. I was a very curious girl. I wanted
- 28:17Speaker 4: to see things. I read books. I wanted to know, well,
- 28:19Speaker 4: what is there besides what's going on right now.
- 28:22Speaker 3: So what I would say to.
- 28:23Speaker 4: Those aspiring entrepreneurs, don't listen to the naysayers. Go get
- 28:28Speaker 4: it if you have a dream, but don't expect somebody
- 28:31Speaker 4: else to pay for your dreams.
- 28:33Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing.
- 28:34Speaker 4: There are a lot of people who have dreams and
- 28:36Speaker 4: they want you to finance their dreams.
- 28:38Speaker 3: I'm saying, I've got dreams, but.
- 28:40Speaker 4: I got off my backside and I worked my tail
- 28:42Speaker 4: off to make sure that I could I could put
- 28:45Speaker 4: the bill for my dreams. So I just say, get
- 28:48Speaker 4: up and don't allow anybody to take your dream away
- 28:52Speaker 4: from you.
- 28:52Speaker 2: She's the author of Daddy's House, a dollar's memoir of setbacks, triumphs,
- 28:57Speaker 2: and rising aboffer roots. I don't speak with Mildred Jay Mills. Mildred,
- 29:03Speaker 2: this is not the only book in your life.
- 29:04Speaker 3: No, it isn't. Yeah books coming up in the future,
- 29:07Speaker 3: I do.
- 29:08Speaker 4: I have a book entitled The Hope Club, and it
- 29:12Speaker 4: is about the impact of incarceration on families, especially children.
- 29:18Speaker 4: And I'm writing this book because, in fact, it's now
- 29:21Speaker 4: with an editor writing this book because my grandchildren are
- 29:25Speaker 4: Two of my grandchildren are impacted by this, and I've
- 29:28Speaker 4: seen what such a life can do to children. I mean,
- 29:33Speaker 4: first it breaks up a family and then secondly, you know,
- 29:36Speaker 4: it just takes a parent away. I mean, there are
- 29:38Speaker 4: many ways that a parent can leave, but when they're
- 29:40Speaker 4: behind those bars and the only way they can see
- 29:42Speaker 4: them is through this plexiglass or whatever clanet glass. So
- 29:46Speaker 4: it puts a lot of strain on other people in
- 29:50Speaker 4: the life, especially that parent that's left behind, sometimes a grandparent,
- 29:53Speaker 4: sometimes aunts and uncles and all these things. But yeah,
- 29:56Speaker 4: I'm writing that book and I have met so many
- 30:00Speaker 4: people who are actually i mean nonprofit folks and all
- 30:04Speaker 4: kinds of people who are doing things to help re entry.
- 30:08Speaker 4: And I'm specifically looking at the women who are incarcerated.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's how can we get Daddy's House.
- 30:16Speaker 4: Daddy's House is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. In fact,
- 30:21Speaker 4: if you google my name, Mildary J. Mills and Daddy's House,
- 30:25Speaker 4: you can see where it's sold. But who doesn't have Amazon?
- 30:28Speaker 4: I guess lots of people have Amazon.
- 30:31Speaker 3: Amazon's Amazon Amazon.
- 30:34Speaker 4: And the thing I would love though, if you read
- 30:36Speaker 4: my book, and if you've read my book, please leave
- 30:38Speaker 4: me a review. There are lots of reviews on the
- 30:41Speaker 4: book and reviews help that book get noticed.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you for coming on my show, Mildred. Again,
- 30:47Speaker 2: your stories compelling. Thank your husband for not going berserk
- 30:50Speaker 2: because they didn't read the book. Prime wrisen you and
- 30:54Speaker 2: realize now I guess what, honey, I didn't know, but
- 30:57Speaker 2: now I know. This is me an honest story. Ory
- 31:00Speaker 2: you know faith over here. Yes, thank you for coming
- 31:04Speaker 2: on my show, Mildred.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me. I greatly appreciate it.
- 31:09Speaker 2: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass
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