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Hunter Biden Indictment: Cronyism, Camouflage & Corruption · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is Verdictra Centater, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
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Speaker 2: The big story, What a hell of a deal? Hunter
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Speaker 2: Biden cuts a massive plea deal and the media is
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Speaker 2: now saying, all right, it's all over. The five year investigation.
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Speaker 2: They called it a global investigation. This dude gets less
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Speaker 2: than a slap on the wrist. Hunter Biden, I'm angry.
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Speaker 2: Most people listening right now are furious over this. And
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Speaker 2: is there any reason to have any faith in the
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Speaker 2: Justice Apartment after this today?
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Speaker 3: Well, Ben, I think you're exactly right to be angry.
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Speaker 3: This is incredibly disappointing. Yesterday was a very sad day
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Speaker 3: for the rule of law. It was an outrageous day,
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Speaker 3: and it's worth breaking down what happened because I think
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Speaker 3: it was three things simultaneously. I think it was cronyism,
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Speaker 3: I think it was camouflage, and I think it was corruption.
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Speaker 3: Now let me break it down because, and let's say
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Speaker 3: at the outset, what happened yesterday with the Hunter Biden
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Speaker 3: indictment is exactly what this podcast has been telling listeners
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Speaker 3: was going to happen for months. We have said this
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Speaker 3: over and over and over again that yesterday was gonna happen.
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Speaker 3: It was going to play out exactly as it did.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with the cronyism. So Hunter Biden has committed
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Speaker 3: crime after crime after crime, and the Biden DOJ was
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Speaker 3: in a hard position because the Hunter laptop laid out
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Speaker 3: the evidence of his crimes. He had videos of himself
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Speaker 3: committing those crimes, and so they were forced to do something.
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Speaker 3: The reason it's cronyism is if Ben Ferguson did what
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden did, if I did what Hunter Biden did,
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Speaker 3: if anyone not name Biden did it, if his name
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Speaker 3: was Hunter Smith, he'd be doing hard time. He would
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Speaker 3: be going to jail. The end result of this plea
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Speaker 3: deal is that Hunter Biden pleaded guilty to two counts
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Speaker 3: of willful failure pay tax because he failed to pay
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Speaker 3: about one point two million dollars on his twenty seventeen
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Speaker 3: and twenty eighteen taxes. That's a lot of taxes. And
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Speaker 3: then secondly, the Biden DOJ filed a charge of possession
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Speaker 3: of a firearm by a person who is an unlawful
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Speaker 3: user of a controlled substance. Mind you, Hunter videoed him
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Speaker 3: doing this, so they were stuck with this problem. But
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Speaker 3: for that he entered a probation and diversion program that
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Speaker 3: it is very likely he will serve not a day
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Speaker 3: in jail, and he's required to stay drug free for
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Speaker 3: twenty four months and agree to never own a firearm.
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Speaker 3: That's not a deal your typical defendant could get if
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Speaker 3: you're a kid in Chicago who does the same thing
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Speaker 3: you're doing jail time. This was cronyism, But the cronyism
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Speaker 3: is not the most outrageous thing. And I got to say,
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Speaker 3: if you watch the TV coverage, if you watch Fox
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Speaker 3: or Newsmax or the various conservative outlets, they're mostly focusing
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Speaker 3: on the cronyism, and the cronism bothers me. It's not fair,
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Speaker 3: But it's the least concerning part of what happened yesterday
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Speaker 3: because the second part of it is camouflage. And again
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Speaker 3: we said this at length on this podcast. I have
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Speaker 3: said for months, Merrick Garland is going to indict Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 3: Why because he needs to mask he needs to cover
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Speaker 3: up his partisan vendetta against Donald Trump. And there's a
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Speaker 3: beautiful symmetry to saying I'm not partisan. I indicted a Trump.
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Speaker 3: I indicted to Biden. See how even handed I am.
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Speaker 3: So the biggest purpose this is to give Merrick Garland
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Speaker 3: a fig leaf to pretend that he's not being political
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Speaker 3: and biased. But actually, I say that's the biggest purpose.
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Speaker 3: That was a misstatement. There's an even bigger purpose, and
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Speaker 3: that is corruption. Now, recall, as we said at length
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Speaker 3: on this pot, why do we care about Hunter Biden? Listen,
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, the guy has led a troubled life for
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Speaker 3: a long time. He struggled with substance abuse. He's had
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Speaker 3: a life where he's made dumb decision after dumb decision
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Speaker 3: after dumb decision. Everyone has friends or family members who
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Speaker 3: struggled with substance abuse. This is something we all understand.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, it's the White House's chief spin
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Speaker 3: now is gosh, he's a troubled soul. He's agonized with
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Speaker 3: these demons. But you ought to have empathy. That's what
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Speaker 3: his lawyers were saying today. You ought to have empathy
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Speaker 3: for him for these demons. Look, the reason the news
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Speaker 3: is covering this, the reason we're talking about this on
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Speaker 3: the podcast, is not because of his personal tax problems
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Speaker 3: or even drug problems or gun problems. The reason it
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Speaker 3: matters is because Hunter is directly implicated in official corruption
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Speaker 3: by the President of the United States. And the tell
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Speaker 3: the key indicator, as you and I discussed months ago,
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Speaker 3: is if this indictment focuses on tax issues and gun
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Speaker 3: issues that are personal to Hunter, that can be explained
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Speaker 3: by his being a troubled soul. What they are doing
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Speaker 3: is covering up the mounting evidence of corruption by Joe Biden,
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Speaker 3: of Joe Biden being complicit in Hunters selling access to
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Speaker 3: Daddy to foreign players for millions of dollars. And that's
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Speaker 3: exactly what this plea agreement is all about. Is there's
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Speaker 3: nothing about Joe Biden, nothing about the big Guy, nothing
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Speaker 3: about Barisma, nothing about communist China. It's just a poor,
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Speaker 3: sad sack who has a substance abuse problem. And this
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Speaker 3: is all about covering up for Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: I want to go rapid fire with you for a
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Speaker 2: second on this, and one of the things that I
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Speaker 2: want to ask you is this, there are a lot
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Speaker 2: of Americans that are saying, how did they come up
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Speaker 2: with these two charges? Only what does that conversation look like?
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Speaker 2: It wasn't a conversation center where they're sitting in a room.
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Speaker 2: They're going Okay, we can only charge Hunter Biden with
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Speaker 2: crimes that insulate and protect the office, right, the presidency.
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Speaker 2: We got we got we have to protect the Biden presidency.
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Speaker 2: So you guys need to find the crimes that if
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Speaker 2: he does plead guilty to them, that that crime will
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Speaker 2: not connect in any capacity or implicate any of the
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Speaker 2: other find Biden family members that we know have been
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Speaker 2: on the take in these deals where you don't have
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Speaker 2: to worry about the foreign funds coming in. We don't
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Speaker 2: want to connect it to him not being able to
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Speaker 2: you know, not registering as a foreign agent by the way,
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Speaker 2: which is a very big deal. We don't want to
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Speaker 2: connect it to these to Ukraine or Romania or these
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Speaker 2: oligarchs are the Chinese Communist Party. Because we have to
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Speaker 2: protect the presidency at all costs of Joe Biden. The
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Speaker 2: only way you come up with these two charges are
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Speaker 2: these two areas I would think is if you had
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Speaker 2: a conversation that way for the last five years. Can't
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Speaker 2: go there, can't do this because otherwise that'll connect him
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Speaker 2: to the presidency.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, that's exactly right, and it's it's what we
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Speaker 3: had discussed that you need personal offenses. Look, his failure
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Speaker 3: to pay taxes on his own money. That that that's
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Speaker 3: tied to Hunter himself. That that's his own screw up.
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Speaker 3: His possession of a firearm when he was a drug
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Speaker 3: us user, that's his personal screw up. What is missing
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Speaker 3: from these charges is anything about Barisma, anything about Ukraine,
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Speaker 3: anything about China, anything about diverting funds, anything about money laundering,
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Speaker 3: anything about selling official influence, anything about bribery. Look, we've
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Speaker 3: discussed in the past couple of weeks. The whistleblower came
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Speaker 3: forward and says that there is credible evidence that Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden personally received first it was a five million dollar
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Speaker 3: that it may be a ten million dollar bribe from
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Speaker 3: senior officials at Barisma. That's why the public should care
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Speaker 3: about this now. Of course, the Democrats won't acknowledge that exists.
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Speaker 3: The media won't acknowledge that exists, at least not the
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Speaker 3: corporate media. They are thrilled to say, well, now it's over.
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Speaker 3: Everything concerning Hunter Biden has resolved. He's been charged, he's
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Speaker 3: pleaded guilty. He's not going to serve a day in jail,
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Speaker 3: so he can go back to vacationing and living off
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Speaker 3: of the millions he's made off of Daddy and the
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Speaker 3: issue is resolved. It is this Department of Justice willfully
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Speaker 3: does not want to examine the very direct and the
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Speaker 3: growing evidence of Joe Biden's direct corruption.
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Speaker 2: How how it makes you angry? You roll your eyes,
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Speaker 2: you want to I want to throw something at the
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Speaker 2: TV because they've refused to cover the story. And not
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Speaker 2: only have they not covered it, they actually lie to
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Speaker 2: the American people about the Hunter Byton laptop. They said
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Speaker 2: it was Russian disinformation, they said in a high horse.
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Speaker 2: They said, we're not going to cover it. We're not
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Speaker 2: going to report on it. You can't mention it. Many
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Speaker 2: networks were banning people from bringing it up, and they
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Speaker 2: said if you did, they weren't going to let you
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Speaker 2: come back on the air. Now the Plea deal comes
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Speaker 2: in and they're covering it wall to wall. Why because
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Speaker 2: it's good news for the Bidens. It's an in cap
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Speaker 2: to this entire five years, and so they're happy to
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Speaker 2: tell you now all the crimes have been investigated, there's
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Speaker 2: only a couple and we're moving on.
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, that's exactly right. And they're willing to have
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden play the scapegoat to a small extent, so
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Speaker 3: he pleads guilty but serves no jail time. So he
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Speaker 3: pleads guilty and gets slap on the wrist. But importantly
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Speaker 3: they say, okay, it's all done. And mind you, these
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Speaker 3: networks they didn't cover. In the last couple of weeks,
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Speaker 3: the accusation from the whistleblower that a confidential informant had
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Speaker 3: told the FBI that Joe Biden had personally taken a
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Speaker 3: five million dollar bribe from a senior Ukrainian Barisma official.
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Speaker 3: They didn't cover that. It didn't make the six o'clock
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Speaker 3: news on any major network. They didn't cover when Chuck
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Speaker 3: Grassley went to the floor of the Senate and said,
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Speaker 3: there were seventeen different phone recordings audio recordings of this
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Speaker 3: senior official at Barisma talking, fifteen of them with Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 3: two of them with Joe Biden. They didn't cover that.
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Speaker 3: That is not news in their view because is that
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Speaker 3: actually implicates the president and corruption. That should have led
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Speaker 3: the news by the way, and we talked about it
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Speaker 3: at length and verdict. Instead they cover it now Why
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Speaker 3: because this is the best way to insulate Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: I promise you tomorrow, anyone who brings up anything about
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's corruption with Hunter Biden, they're going to say,
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Speaker 3: been there, done that, matters resolved, hope they investigated it,
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Speaker 3: that they have convictions, it's all done. Nothing to see here,
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's innocent. Move on. By the way, can we
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Speaker 3: talk to you about Donald Trump's indictment because that's what
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Speaker 3: they want to talk about.
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Speaker 1: The reporters there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought that up, and I gotta play this
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Speaker 2: because what you just said was exactly what happened on
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Speaker 2: NBC News. They broke in and it took them a
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Speaker 2: minute and I think it was twenty one seconds, while
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Speaker 2: telling you about Hunter's Indictment Center to then say this
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Speaker 2: comes on the heels of Donald Trump's and they counted
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Speaker 2: the number of indictments.
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Speaker 1: Just last week, like they think, they couldn't.
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Speaker 2: Even make it two minutes on the Hunter Biden story
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Speaker 2: before they're telling you about Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: Biden has really not said a whole lot about this.
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Speaker 4: He has argued that he wants to keep distance between
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Speaker 4: himself and of course the Justice Department and this investigation.
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Speaker 4: But notably, he did make some very recent comments in
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Speaker 4: an interview with Stephanie Rule, saying, quote, my son has
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Speaker 4: done nothing wrong. I trust him. Those comments will undoubtedly
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Speaker 4: come under fresh scrutiny. Now, of course, this does come
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Speaker 4: about a week after former President Trump pled not guilty
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Speaker 4: to thirty seven counts that he mishandled classified documents Republicans
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Speaker 4: the former.
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Speaker 1: Right by the way, I mean, sinay, you can hear
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Speaker 1: it there. They couldn't even make it to the two
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Speaker 1: minute mark.
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Speaker 2: They're telling you about the White House not giving a
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Speaker 2: comment yet on this. Right when they're breaking this news
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Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden reached the plea deal on tax charges
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Speaker 2: and a misdemeanor thing with a gun thing, that that's
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Speaker 2: gonna go away, so it's not a big deal.
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Speaker 1: And then they tell you about Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: Well, and they also say, well, the White House wanted
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Speaker 3: to keep the President's distance from this, no kidding talk
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Speaker 3: about I'm really expecting Joe Biden at the best press
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Speaker 3: conference to say Hunter who, I'm sorry, I don't know
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Speaker 3: who that is. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: This is all about protecting the big guy. And look,
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Speaker 3: I get why the White House is doing that. That's
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Speaker 3: actually fairly natural political instincts is protect your guy. But
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Speaker 3: why is the Department of Justice acting like the DNC's
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Speaker 3: lawyers in this? I mean, this is disgraceful. That is,
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Speaker 3: if you care about the rule of law, if you
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Speaker 3: care about DOJ prosecuting crimes fairly and evenly, regardless of party,
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Speaker 3: you ought to be really upset at this because this
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Speaker 3: is all about Merrick Garland pretending to be even handed
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Speaker 3: while he's acting as the political henchman for Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: You'll look at the time stamp here and you and
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Speaker 2: I were texting obviously when story broke. NBC News broke
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Speaker 2: in for their special report. They went eight minutes in
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Speaker 2: forty three seconds. Now we're trying to get the exact number,
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Speaker 2: but it looks like they spent more time covering Hunter
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Speaker 2: Biden today then they may have dealt with his story
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Speaker 2: in breaking news for the last since the levertop to
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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden lap ever, right, so you add up every
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Speaker 2: clip over the last since you know, two and twenty
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Speaker 2: election cycles, since a Hunter Biden laptop broke, it would.
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Speaker 3: Not be surprised me. It would not surprise me if
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Speaker 3: the corporate media said Hunter Biden's name more times today
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Speaker 3: than they have in the history of the universe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is the point here of why they
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Speaker 2: went all in because for this, this was Okay, this
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Speaker 2: is good news. We need to cover this like this
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Speaker 2: is massive breaking news.
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Speaker 3: Because the favorite two words were what the media said
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Speaker 3: over and over and over again on station after station.
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Speaker 3: Their favorite two words today were wraps up, wraps up,
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Speaker 3: this rap up. The investigation wraps it up, wraps it up,
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Speaker 3: all wrapped up, all wrapped up. Nothing to see here,
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Speaker 3: this wraps it up, this wraps it up. That was
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Speaker 3: why they covered it because it's resolved. Nothing to see
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Speaker 3: here all over. Now, let's return to saying how much
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Speaker 3: we hate Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: And they even use words today. I was laughing. Global
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Speaker 2: Investigation has wrapped up. That's how they put it on NBC.
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Speaker 2: And if you went over to ABC and CBS, same
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Speaker 2: exact thing. They wanted you to believe that today this
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Speaker 2: was a massive bombshell. It was a bad moment and
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Speaker 2: a tough thing for the White House to see this happen.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a day of reckoning. And meanwhile, when
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Speaker 2: they go to break, you know, they're laughing and high
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Speaker 2: fiving each other because they're like, we just got away
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Speaker 2: with it again.
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Speaker 3: Well, but you know what, the American people, I think
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Speaker 3: are a lot more engaged and aware. Listen, CNN. CNN
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Speaker 3: is celebrating this. But you know what, verdict, this podcast
17:58
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Speaker 3: your friend, tell your coworker, tell your sister, tell your brother. Hey,
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Speaker 3: listen to this episode. You want to know what was
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Speaker 3: really going on with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. Listen
18:17
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Speaker 3: six o'clock news. You won't get it on CNN or MSNBC.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, And there's always when a big story
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Speaker 2: like this break, Senator, there's an X factor that comes
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Speaker 2: out of these where you didn't see this happening. I
18:48
Speaker 2: didn't see this happening until it was happening in real
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Speaker 2: time today, and that was the racial aspect of this.
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Speaker 2: There was outrage from many African American leaders and many
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Speaker 2: African American defendants who have gone to prison and done
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Speaker 2: real hard time for the same crimes that Hunter Biden
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Speaker 2: was accused of and now has done this plea deal.
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Speaker 2: With some of the headlines that were put out, A
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Speaker 2: twenty two year old had pled guilty to weapons charges
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Speaker 2: stemming from his arrest just before a scheduled concert performance
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Speaker 2: in may A rapper Kodiak Black got over three years
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Speaker 2: in prison in a weapons case. Lil Wayne, another artist,
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Speaker 2: pled guilty to federal gun charges. The rapper will be
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Speaker 2: sentenced in January and face up to ten years in prison.
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Speaker 2: Another one, Meek Mill, arrested in Philadelphia on gun charges.
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Speaker 2: That one back in two thousand and eight, going to
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Speaker 2: prison eleven to twenty three months. Jah Ruhles sentence for
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Speaker 2: tax evasion. The rapper will serve twenty eight months in
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Speaker 2: addition to two years for a weapons charge. Fat Joe
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Speaker 2: another singer sentenced to prison for tax evasion. Rapper faces
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Speaker 2: four months and a fifth in jail in a fifteen
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine.
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Speaker 1: Now, many of the people I just mentioned were not.
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Speaker 2: Accused of the severity of the crimes that Hunter Biden
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Speaker 2: was when it came to the amount of taxes ode,
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Speaker 2: for example, Yet they serve time in jail. And this
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Speaker 2: started a trend on social media when I say there's
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Speaker 2: always an X factor on stories. I don't think anyone
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Speaker 2: saw that initial reaction. But there were lawyers speaking out today,
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Speaker 2: there were community activists speaking out today saying, let me
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Speaker 2: get this straight. This guy, because his dad is the president,
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Speaker 2: he's white, he didn't go to jail, But many, many
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Speaker 2: African American men, minority men, have gone to jail for
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Speaker 2: doing less than what he was accused of and done
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Speaker 2: real hard time. Hunter Biden wills not spend one second
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Speaker 2: in jail. I don't think the White House even saw
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Speaker 2: that reaction coming.
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Speaker 3: Well, look that there is a sense of entitlement that
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Speaker 3: this double standard is fully baked into every political operative
20:57
Speaker 3: at the White House, to the political cronies running Deo
21:00
Speaker 3: Jay listen, Hunter Biden. On the tax front, he willfully
21:04
Speaker 3: and he pleaded guilty to this, willfully failed to pay
21:07
Speaker 3: taxes on one point two million dollars in twenty seventeen
21:13
Speaker 3: and twenty eighteen. One point two million dollars is a
21:16
Speaker 3: lot of money. That's not one hundred bucks. It's not
21:18
Speaker 3: fifty thousand bucks. It's not one hundred thousand bucks. It's
21:21
Speaker 3: one point two million. And it was wilful not serving
21:24
Speaker 3: a day in jail. This is a guy also who
21:28
Speaker 3: had a firearm. The firearm ended up being discarded. It
21:33
Speaker 3: was a Colt Cobra thirty eight spl revolver and it
21:40
Speaker 3: was discarded in a dumpster by a school by his brothers.
21:48
Speaker 3: His deceased brother's wife with whom Hunter Biden was having
21:52
Speaker 3: an intimate affair, and she threw it out in the
21:56
Speaker 3: dumpster where any kid could have grabbed the gun and
21:58
Speaker 3: shot himself another kid. Look, if you or I do this, listen,
22:03
Speaker 3: then you own a gun store. Yeah, what do you
22:07
Speaker 3: think the Feds would federal if you just tossed a
22:10
Speaker 3: gun at a dumpster buy a school. What would they do
22:12
Speaker 3: to you?
22:13
Speaker 2: Seriously, I promise you I would do real jail time
22:16
Speaker 2: number one. But we've actually seen this with people that
22:19
Speaker 2: have done straw purchases, where someone buys a gun for
22:21
Speaker 2: somebody else. You go to prison, it's a federal crime.
22:25
Speaker 2: You lose your ability to own a firearm, and you're
22:28
Speaker 2: in serious trouble by the.
22:29
Speaker 1: Way, as you should be.
22:31
Speaker 2: But when you dump a gun in a dumpster by
22:33
Speaker 2: a school, there should be instant, serious repercussions for those actions.
22:39
Speaker 2: Somebody's life could be taken, a kid could find that gun,
22:43
Speaker 2: you can have an accidental discharge. That's the reason why
22:46
Speaker 2: the Feds don't screw around when it comes to guns
22:48
Speaker 2: and the laws with guns, and they shouldn't. There should
22:51
Speaker 2: be no leeway on these types of things. Yet, because
22:54
Speaker 2: he was again the Vice President's son, Right. And there's
22:59
Speaker 2: also the other shady part of the story, owning a
23:01
Speaker 2: gun store. You know this part of the story. Well,
23:03
Speaker 2: apparently Secret Service agents went into that gun store trying
23:07
Speaker 2: to get the paperwork from that gun transaction after the
23:11
Speaker 2: gun was thrown in the dumpster, right, because they were
23:14
Speaker 2: trying to cover up the crime that he committed.
23:16
Speaker 1: And that gun store owner said, no, I'm not.
23:19
Speaker 2: Giving you that paperwork to the two Secret Service guys
23:22
Speaker 2: that apparently came in, and he refused to turn that
23:24
Speaker 2: over so they could just make it all disappear. That's
23:27
Speaker 2: another part of the story is why was the Secret
23:31
Speaker 2: Service agents involved in that? Because at that time, from
23:35
Speaker 2: what we understand, Joe Biden did not have Secret Service protection,
23:39
Speaker 2: So why were they being used in that moment? Again,
23:43
Speaker 2: another part of the investigation that went nowhere.
23:46
Speaker 3: Well, and you look at the law that hunter Biden
23:51
Speaker 3: is pleading guilty to have violated. It's eighteen USC. Section
23:56
Speaker 3: nine twenty two, G three. It shall be unlawful for
23:59
Speaker 3: any person who is an unlawful user of, or addicted
24:03
Speaker 3: to any controlled substance to ship, or transport or receive
24:11
Speaker 3: any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped to transport
24:15
Speaker 3: the inner state or foreign commerce. And what's the penalty
24:18
Speaker 3: for it? Well, let me just read you from the statute.
24:20
Speaker 3: Whoever knowingly violates this subsection shall be fined as provided
24:25
Speaker 3: in this title in prisoned not more than ten years
24:31
Speaker 3: or both. So the maximum punishment is ten years in
24:34
Speaker 3: prison and a fine of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
24:37
Speaker 3: What does Hunter Biden get Zero years in prison, zero
24:41
Speaker 3: months in prison, zero days in prison. That is a
24:45
Speaker 3: sweetheart deal because Daddy is in the Oval office. But listen,
24:50
Speaker 3: as infuriating as that is, and listen, I understand all
24:53
Speaker 3: these defendants who faced real jail time. They ought to
24:56
Speaker 3: get bad. They are bad. They are getting mad because
24:59
Speaker 3: they wreck recognize gosh, you know. It reminds me of
25:03
Speaker 3: you know, mel Brooks's History of the World, where he
25:07
Speaker 3: would say, it's good to be the king. Well, it's
25:10
Speaker 3: good to be the president's son. Apparently the laws don't
25:13
Speaker 3: apply to you. By the way, let me point out,
25:16
Speaker 3: and we said this on one of our most recent podcasts,
25:19
Speaker 3: all of the lefties who went on TV and said,
25:22
Speaker 3: no man is above the law, No man is above
25:24
Speaker 3: the law. No man, no man no man, no man
25:27
Speaker 3: is above the law. They said that repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly
25:31
Speaker 3: concerning Donald J. Trump. It made them feel very moral
25:34
Speaker 3: and self righteous. Well, you know who apparently is above
25:37
Speaker 3: the law? Anyone named Biden or for that matter, anyone
25:39
Speaker 3: named Hillary Clinton. Those men are above the law.
25:44
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about where this moves forward
25:47
Speaker 2: in Congress and is this going to be the end
25:51
Speaker 2: of the road on this, Like did we lose or
25:53
Speaker 2: should people still have faith that this is far from
25:56
Speaker 2: over when it comes to the president, because at this point,
25:59
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people that just don't care
26:01
Speaker 2: anymore about Hunter Biden. They see the corruption, they see
26:04
Speaker 2: the bribes, they see these the intel coming out, they
26:08
Speaker 2: see what the whistle boarder is saying. They're saying, Okay,
26:10
Speaker 2: let's keep our eye on the prize, which is the kingpin.
26:14
Speaker 2: The kingpin is Joe Biden President of the United States
26:18
Speaker 2: of America right now. I think there's a very big
26:21
Speaker 2: concerns that he's compromised by China. You look at how
26:23
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26:26
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27:39
Speaker 2: frustration in the double standard.
27:41
Speaker 1: Yes, but then there's also that worry that.
27:43
Speaker 2: People feel like, all right, we lost again. The systems rigged,
27:46
Speaker 2: the DOJ's rigged, the FBI's rigged, it's all rigged against us.
27:49
Speaker 1: There's a double standard here.
27:51
Speaker 2: Yet we still have a lot of questions being asked
27:53
Speaker 2: about the president.
27:54
Speaker 1: Will they go anywhere?
27:55
Speaker 2: And should people be discouraged or is it getting much
27:59
Speaker 2: bigger think with the league's coming out against the president.
28:04
Speaker 3: So let me say yes, no, yes, yes, you should
28:07
Speaker 3: be discouraged about DJ. I think the Merrick Garland DOJ
28:12
Speaker 3: is thoroughly politicized. I think from their view, the Hunter
28:15
Speaker 3: Biden investigation's over. They're done, they've wrapped it up, as
28:19
Speaker 3: the Democrats and the press are gleefully saying they're not
28:22
Speaker 3: investigating anymore. They don't want to know. They are the
28:24
Speaker 3: three little monkeys. They see no evil, they hear no evil,
28:28
Speaker 3: and they are covering up any connection to Joe Biden.
28:32
Speaker 3: So if you're sitting there waiting for well, when is
28:35
Speaker 3: DOJ going to do more on this? I think you
28:37
Speaker 3: will wait at least until the end of twenty twenty four.
28:40
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen, so that you
28:43
Speaker 3: should be distressed about. The good news is, I don't
28:46
Speaker 3: believe the House of Representatives is going to sit quietly along.
28:49
Speaker 3: I think James Comer and I think Jim Jordan are
28:51
Speaker 3: going to keep digging. I am working closely with both
28:54
Speaker 3: of them. I'm going to keep pressing them. They have
28:56
Speaker 3: the power to issue subpoenas. I think the House needs
28:59
Speaker 3: to keep press So that is encouraging. And I'll also say, listen,
29:04
Speaker 3: this podcast is going to keep pressing. And what we're
29:07
Speaker 3: what we're seeing is more and more whistleblowers coming forward,
29:11
Speaker 3: more and more people in the FBI and the DJ
29:15
Speaker 3: and the I R S who are principaled, who are honorable,
29:18
Speaker 3: who are frustrated by this corruption and and that growing effort. Listen,
29:24
Speaker 3: remember back to Richard Nixon and Watergate. At first, it
29:28
Speaker 3: started off and it was just a little story here,
29:30
Speaker 3: that it was a little story there. But the evidence
29:32
Speaker 3: grew and mounted. Do I think Merrick Garland listen. I
29:37
Speaker 3: got to say, as an aside, I was doing a
29:40
Speaker 3: TV interview last week and the person interviewing me asked said, well,
29:46
Speaker 3: do you think there's a scenario where the Democrats in
29:49
Speaker 3: the Senate would vote to convict Joe Biden in an
29:53
Speaker 3: impeachment hearing, and I laughed and I said no, And
29:58
Speaker 3: I went on to say, you could have video of
30:03
Speaker 3: Joe Biden murdering children at midnight under a full moon,
30:09
Speaker 3: dressed as the Devil and singing Pat Benatar, and the
30:15
Speaker 3: Democrats still would not vote to convict. Now, amusingly enough,
30:18
Speaker 3: Ben the lefties lost their minds, but they didn't dispute
30:24
Speaker 3: the underlying point that the Democrats didn't care about the facts,
30:27
Speaker 3: would never vote to convict Joe Biden, didn't care what
30:29
Speaker 3: he was guilty of. None of that was controversial. They're like, yeah, oh,
30:32
Speaker 3: that's obviously true. You know what they were mad at?
30:37
Speaker 3: What was that that I said the words Pat Benatar?
30:42
Speaker 3: And this is kind of predictable, right, Okay, this began
30:46
Speaker 3: trending on Twitter that I said, Pat Benatar and lefties.
30:51
Speaker 3: It's very funny. They're very territorial. They guard culture. You're
30:57
Speaker 3: not allowed to reference pop culture. And it actually Pat
31:00
Speaker 3: Benatar responded to me. Who the heck? Who the heck
31:03
Speaker 3: knew Pat Benatar would ever respond a little on me.
31:06
Speaker 3: I was fairly sing, Okay, hold on, I missed that.
31:08
Speaker 3: What did Pat say, because I totally missed this.
31:10
Speaker 1: This is awesome.
31:11
Speaker 3: So she posted on I think it was Facebook, and
31:13
Speaker 3: she just said nice try. And I don't know. One
31:16
Speaker 3: of the lefty papers said Pat bennettar Burns Crews. That
31:21
Speaker 3: was one of the headlines the last few days. That's hilarious,
31:24
Speaker 3: which I found really funny. So let me tell you
31:26
Speaker 3: two funny things about Pat benattar Gate. Number one, I
31:32
Speaker 3: put out a tweet today today or yesterday where I said, look,
31:39
Speaker 3: my point was that he could be murdering children under
31:44
Speaker 3: a full moon while singing hit me with your best
31:47
Speaker 3: shot and Democrats wouldn't care yep. But to be honest, look,
31:53
Speaker 3: I thought that was kind of a clever tweet, so
31:55
Speaker 3: I sent it out. But do you want to know
31:57
Speaker 3: the actual backstory behind why I said Pat Benatar? Yeah, okay,
32:01
Speaker 3: So I'm I was just free associating. I'm doing an interview.
32:04
Speaker 3: It was a middle of the afternoon, I'm talking, and
32:07
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of like an outlandish scenario. So
32:09
Speaker 3: I'm like, murdering children dress as the devil, full moon midnight.
32:14
Speaker 3: And what I was trying to think of was the
32:18
Speaker 3: band Nickelback. Oh yeah, and the reason, it's kind of
32:22
Speaker 3: a funny. So in twenty sixteen, when I was running
32:24
Speaker 3: for president, there was this guy, this protester that showed
32:27
Speaker 3: up at several of my events holding a sign that
32:30
Speaker 3: says Ted Cruz likes Nickelback.
32:35
Speaker 1: That was like the greatest like band insult ever.
32:38
Speaker 2: By the way, I remember that, I was like, so
32:39
Speaker 2: and so light, it's like the new like, oh, he
32:42
Speaker 2: probably drinks bud Light.
32:43
Speaker 3: Yes, And I remember at the time the guy who
32:46
Speaker 3: showed up, I was laughing. I'm like, that's really funny.
32:50
Speaker 3: And so as I was free associating, I'm like, crap,
32:53
Speaker 3: what was that band that they said I liked? And
32:55
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember the name Nickelback. So I was just
32:58
Speaker 3: like grasping for someone. And I don't know why Pat
33:01
Speaker 3: Benatar popped in my head, but I was looking for someone,
33:04
Speaker 3: and so I said Pat Benattar. What was funny is
33:06
Speaker 3: all these lefties on Twitter are like, oh, Cruise thinks
33:10
Speaker 3: Pat Bennettar is satanic and like, you know, Metallica or
33:14
Speaker 3: something like that, And I just was namings like a
33:17
Speaker 3: random rock star because I couldn't remember Nickelback.
33:21
Speaker 2: By the way, the next time, for all the listeners
33:23
Speaker 2: that you and I are traveling to do a Verdict
33:25
Speaker 2: Live event. I'm gonna pull one of the earbuds and
33:28
Speaker 2: just make sure it's not really Pat Benatar. I just
33:30
Speaker 2: want to be I'll report back to everybody. Maybe that's
33:34
Speaker 2: why this happened. That's amazing, all.
33:36
Speaker 3: Right, the next campus tour we do, we really oughtit,
33:38
Speaker 3: like enter the Verdict Live recording to Pat Benatar playing.
33:42
Speaker 3: Because I'm a kid of the eighties. I grew up
33:46
Speaker 3: with Pat Benatar, So when I was reassociating, I've tried
33:48
Speaker 3: to think of something that was just sort of to
33:51
Speaker 3: be honest, the kind of notion was that I had
33:54
Speaker 3: in my head and I wasn't fully formed with the
33:57
Speaker 3: hit me with the best shot would just Biden defied
34:01
Speaker 3: and utterly care free because he knew he would never
34:05
Speaker 3: be held to account, which sadly is the reality of
34:09
Speaker 3: Democrats in Congress in the corporate media, which is they
34:12
Speaker 3: do not care. There's not a single Democrat who cares
34:16
Speaker 3: if Joe Biden received a five million dollar bribe from
34:19
Speaker 3: a foreign country. They don't care. None of the corporate media.
34:23
Speaker 1: Is there an amount of money?
34:24
Speaker 2: Is there amount of money though, or anything that Hunter
34:27
Speaker 2: Biden or Joe Biden could have done. I mean, we're
34:29
Speaker 2: talking about taking money from Russian Ola Garks, We're talking
34:32
Speaker 2: about taking money from corrupt businessman, you know, Barisma in
34:35
Speaker 2: Romania and other places around the world. James Comer said
34:40
Speaker 2: recently he believes they're going to find another twenty million,
34:43
Speaker 2: up to another twenty maybe you know, thirty total million
34:46
Speaker 2: come in. Yeah, So you're saying there's nothing that they
34:50
Speaker 2: could have done in the past.
34:52
Speaker 3: Joe BIDENY would care about one hundred million dollars in
34:54
Speaker 3: his bank account. He could have put a billion dollars
34:56
Speaker 3: in his bank account. He could have put one hundred
34:58
Speaker 3: billion dollars in conflict diamonds from Africa that resulted in
35:04
Speaker 3: the murder of thousands of children. The Democrats do not
35:09
Speaker 3: care and the corporate media won't cover it. While Nickelback, Yeah,
35:13
Speaker 3: while listening to Nickelback in one ear and Pat Benattar
35:17
Speaker 3: and the other.
35:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing.
35:20
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a serious question though about
35:22
Speaker 2: China real quick, because this is an important one. We
35:25
Speaker 2: had this meeting with Anthony Blinkin going over there.
35:29
Speaker 3: And it just hold on. But before you do this,
35:32
Speaker 3: I want to go back, look a reasonable listener. As
35:36
Speaker 3: you know, Heidi gets mad at me sometimes when Verdict
35:40
Speaker 3: gets a little too dogmatic, and she says, look, this
35:44
Speaker 3: podcast is better when you're reasonable and you consider both sides.
35:48
Speaker 3: The statement that Democrats don't care may sound hyperbolic, but
35:55
Speaker 3: I challenge you if it's false. Can you point to
36:00
Speaker 3: a single Democrat in the Senate or House of Representatives
36:05
Speaker 3: that has asked even a single witness one critical question
36:10
Speaker 3: about this topic. I can tell you in the Senate
36:13
Speaker 3: Judiciary Committee on which I serve, I have never seen
36:17
Speaker 3: any of the Democrats when they have DOJ in front
36:20
Speaker 3: of them, when they have the FBI in front of them,
36:22
Speaker 3: they won't ask anything. They they it does not matter.
36:26
Speaker 3: And I also will say I have not seen any
36:29
Speaker 3: Capitol Hill reporter ask even a single Democrat senator one
36:34
Speaker 3: question about this and and so you may think, gosh,
36:38
Speaker 3: that's that's overstated to say they don't care, But at
36:41
Speaker 3: some point your conduct conveys something. If you cared, you
36:47
Speaker 3: would demonstrate you cared by at least asking about it.
36:52
Speaker 3: They never ever, ever do.
36:54
Speaker 2: On this issue, the support by Democrats is one hundred
36:57
Speaker 2: percent members.
36:59
Speaker 3: There's not a single outlier maybe there is in the House.
37:03
Speaker 3: I don't think there is. I know in the Senate
37:04
Speaker 3: there's not. Or if there is. If someone has secret
37:08
Speaker 3: concerns they're harboring in their heart, boy, they're keeping them quiet,
37:11
Speaker 3: they won't actually say them publicly.
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Speaker 2: Senator I mentioned a moment ago, and I do want
38:57
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39:00
Speaker 2: of the things that concerns me the most about the
39:02
Speaker 2: compromise situation that the bidens are in and we're following
39:06
Speaker 2: the money. This suspicious activity reports the amount of cash
39:09
Speaker 2: coming into their bank accounts and number of payments and
39:12
Speaker 2: loans coming in, specifically from China, and then you see
39:15
Speaker 2: Anthony Blincoln basically saying, Hey, we need a strong China
39:19
Speaker 2: and that's somehow good for America. He's not really, you know,
39:22
Speaker 2: holding China accountable for what they've been doing, expanding and
39:26
Speaker 2: creating islands out of thin air and in different parts
39:29
Speaker 2: around the world and the seas that give them a
39:32
Speaker 2: massive I mean, I don't want to understate this, but
39:36
Speaker 2: a general said they have now superiority when it comes
39:39
Speaker 2: to fighting a war because of these new islands they've created.
39:43
Speaker 2: No one stopped them. America didn't, and now it seems
39:46
Speaker 2: like China can do whatever the hell they want, and
39:48
Speaker 2: this administration keeps holding back when there's a chance to
39:53
Speaker 2: hold them accountable. Are you concerned that that is directly
39:56
Speaker 2: related to them being compromised?
39:59
Speaker 3: You know, I don't. I don't know if it's that
40:02
Speaker 3: China has information on Joe Biden concerning the millions of
40:06
Speaker 3: dollars they funneled Hunter Biden's business affairs, and I don't
40:09
Speaker 3: know if the ten percent for the Big Guy that
40:11
Speaker 3: went to Joe Biden as a factor. I will say,
40:14
Speaker 3: even if Hunter Biden had never influenced peddled once, I
40:19
Speaker 3: think Joe Biden would be rolling over to China. Biden
40:22
Speaker 3: has rolled over to China for fifty years. He's famously said,
40:26
Speaker 3: come on, man, come on man, China's our friend. I
40:30
Speaker 3: mean he has been a China defender. He has been
40:35
Speaker 3: snuggling up to the Chinese communists for decades. And if
40:40
Speaker 3: you put it in the broader picture, the entire Biden
40:43
Speaker 3: foreign policy has been to undermine our friends, to undermine
40:46
Speaker 3: our allies. They've worked to undermine Israel, They've worked to
40:50
Speaker 3: undermine the United Kingdom, They've worked to underline the country
40:53
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia that have been friends to us, and at
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Speaker 3: the same time have been showing weakness and appeasement to
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Speaker 3: our enemies. Think about it. Every enemy of America stronger
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Speaker 3: today than they were two and a half years ago.
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Speaker 3: China's stronger, Russia stronger, Iran is stronger, North Korea is stronger,
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Speaker 3: Venezuela is stronger. If you hate America, Joe Biden has
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Speaker 3: been great for you. If you're a Mexican drug cartel,
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden has been great for you. And when it
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Speaker 3: comes to China, wanted the things to understand, and we've
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Speaker 3: talked about this before in the podcast Today's Democrat Party
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Speaker 3: in Washington. They are structurally pro China. And why is that.
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Speaker 3: It's because the stakeholders that fund them, the people who
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Speaker 3: call the shots in the Democrat Party, who pull the
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Speaker 3: strings on the marionette puppets that are Democrat senators and congressmen,
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Speaker 3: all of them are in bed with China.
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Speaker 1: Who is that.
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Speaker 3: It's big business, it's big Wall Street, it's big Tech,
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Speaker 3: it's big universities, and it's big Hollywood, and they are
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Speaker 3: all in bed with China. They all make billions of
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Speaker 3: dollars from communist China. And so when it comes to
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Speaker 3: today's Democrat Party, they don't want to stand up to
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Speaker 3: China because the people who are paying the bills depend
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Speaker 3: upon ongoing close interaction and essentially capitulation to China. So,
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Speaker 3: as you know, in the preceding Congress, I forced to
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Speaker 3: vote on the Senate Florida prohibit the US government from
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Speaker 3: purchasing goods and in particular electric vehicles or batteries made
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Speaker 3: using slave labor in concentration camps in China. Now, this
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Speaker 3: ought to be an easy vote. Do you buy things
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Speaker 3: manufactured by slaves and concentration camps? The answer should mean
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Speaker 3: not just no, but hell no. Every single Democrat voted
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Speaker 3: against my resolume. All of them except one. Joe Manchin
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Speaker 3: is the only one who voted with me. Every other
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Speaker 3: Democrat voted for yep, let's buy things from the concentration camps.
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Speaker 3: That is because their stakeholders are fully invested in China today.
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Speaker 1: It's truly incredible.
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