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Liberals have a Plan to Tank the Economy, plus Tom Homan on Immigration Plan Day 1 · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: State Department spokesman, I don't have any policy updates regarding
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Speaker 1: Ukraine's use of long range weapons against Russian targets. Now,
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Speaker 1: why is this an issue that matters? It matters for
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Speaker 1: this reason. It's kind of shocking that this White House
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Speaker 1: has now said, yeah, go ahead and use those missiles
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Speaker 1: to hit deep inside of Russia, missiles that we are
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Speaker 1: providing you the United States of America. And this moves
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Speaker 1: us much closer to what would be described as a
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Speaker 1: full out war or a war World three scenario. This
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Speaker 1: is one of those moments where it's like they're setting
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Speaker 1: the house on fire so that Donald Trump can inherit
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Speaker 1: this problem. And it's I mean, it's it's basically whatever
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Speaker 1: we can do to screw with you now. And I'm
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Speaker 1: referring to Donald Trump. They're doing it, you know, forget
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Speaker 1: this whole Oh, we're gonna have, you know, a smooth
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Speaker 1: transition of yeah, we're also going to set the world
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Speaker 1: on fire at the same time. That's what they're saying.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. Take a list in the State
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Speaker 1: Department spokes and he's asked about this, like shocking policy change.
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Speaker 1: Why don't you guys do it before election day. Why
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Speaker 1: are you doing it now? What's the reasoning behind this?
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Speaker 1: Why would you want to ratchet things up and make
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Speaker 1: things even worse expanding the war when a new presence
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Speaker 1: coming in that's clearly stated he wants to end this
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Speaker 1: war and has already had conversations with people around the world.
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Speaker 1: The German Chancellor, for example, called Vladimir Putin and told
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Speaker 1: Putin it was time to wrap things up into end
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Speaker 1: this war. Like people are now on edge because this
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Speaker 1: is where big changes start to happen. And the Democratic
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Speaker 1: Party and the Biden administration're like, no, no, no, we want
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Speaker 1: to up things, we want to expand things. We want
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Speaker 1: there to be an explosion of issues and problems so
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Speaker 1: that you guys inherit this. And I think that's pretty
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Speaker 1: sick because in war, as everyone knows, there are people
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Speaker 1: that are gonna die. So we're ratchetting things up as
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Speaker 1: we're walking out the door. We didn't have the we
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Speaker 1: didn't have this as our foreign policy while we were
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Speaker 1: in charge. We didn't have this our foreign policy before
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Speaker 1: election day. We wouldn't have done this. If Kamala Harris want,
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Speaker 1: I have no doubt they would not have made this move.
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Speaker 1: If Kamala Harris would have won instead. What we're doing
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Speaker 1: is we're lighting the world on fire as we're walking
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Speaker 1: out of the White House on purpose so that Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump inherits a really bad situation where a full on
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Speaker 1: war war, a World War three scenario could take place.
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Speaker 1: Like these people are evil? Who does that this decision
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Speaker 1: is causing already people to die. Russia is already fighting
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Speaker 1: back in a different capacity than they were before. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen, State Department spokesman.
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Speaker 2: Launch long range missile strikes into Russia using US missile.
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Speaker 3: Don't have any policy updates to speak to today. As
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Speaker 3: you know, since even before Russia launched its full scale invasion,
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Speaker 3: the United States has marshaled the coalition of more than
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Speaker 3: fifty countries to provide assistance to Ukraine and to hold
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Speaker 3: Russia accountable for its actions. We have made clear that
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Speaker 3: we will always adapt and adjust the capabilities that we
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Speaker 3: provide to Ukraine when it's appropriate to do so, and
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Speaker 3: you have seen us back that up with steps that
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Speaker 3: we have taken over the past several years. But I
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Speaker 3: don't have any new policy developments to speak to today.
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Speaker 2: The I mean, obviously this is already been reported that
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Speaker 2: there is a change of policy, and the Kremlin has
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Speaker 2: responded saying this is a this is a major escalation
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Speaker 2: from the US. Do you have a I mean, you're
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Speaker 2: not confirming the policy. Yeah, but given that this is
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Speaker 2: already information out there that Russians are responding to, you know,
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Speaker 2: what's your take on you know, them accusing you of
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Speaker 2: escalating this company.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So again, I know this goes without saying, but let
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Speaker 3: me say it anyway. I'm not going to speak to
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Speaker 3: or confirm any policy changes. But when you look at
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Speaker 3: escalation of this conflict, it has been Russia that has
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Speaker 3: escalated the conflict time and time again, and that includes
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Speaker 3: just in the recent month when Russia recruited the deployment
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Speaker 3: of more than eleven thousand North Korean soldiers who are
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Speaker 3: now on the front lines in Kursk, engaging in combat
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Speaker 3: operations against the Ukrainian military. That is a major escalation
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Speaker 3: by Russia bringing in an Asian military to a conflict
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Speaker 3: inside Europe. And as we said, as the Secretary said,
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Speaker 3: our response to that would be firm, and the supporters
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Speaker 3: of Ukraine's response to that needed to be firm, and
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Speaker 3: we will continue to do what is appropriate to hold
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Speaker 3: Russia accountable for its actions, including its escalatory actions, and
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Speaker 3: to hold North Korea accountable for its escalatory actions.
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Speaker 2: The Russians say that, you know, they can just deploy
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Speaker 2: whoever they like to curse because it's inside their own country.
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Speaker 2: What's the kind of principle here that a country can't
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Speaker 2: bring in other troops.
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Speaker 3: So the first principle that we need to remember, of course,
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Speaker 3: and I know you haven't forgotten this but for everyone else,
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Speaker 3: is that it is Russia that started this war by
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Speaker 3: invading the sovereign territory of its neighbor, Russia that invaded
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Speaker 3: Ukraine supported proxy war in twenty fourteen, and then that
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Speaker 3: launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 3: And so if Russia wanted to stop the attacks on
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Speaker 3: its territory, it's the aggressor here, and it could withdraw
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Speaker 3: from Ukraine. It could stop targeting Ukrainian civilians, it could
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Speaker 3: stop targeting Ukrainian targeting Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, it could stop
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Speaker 3: occupying Ukrainian territory. So what it matters very much who
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Speaker 3: is the wrests are in this conflict and who is
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Speaker 3: the victim. But the fact that Ukraine is defending the
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Speaker 3: occupation of its territory by launching attacks inside Russia. In
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Speaker 3: no way, UH justifies the escalation of this conflict by
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Speaker 3: introducing a foreign army into conflict directly with Ukrainians.
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Speaker 1: This would be like you know, someone buying your house,
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Speaker 1: or you have getting kicked out of your house, whatever,
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Speaker 1: you give me, any scenario you want to, and you're like,
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna lie to match and walk out
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Speaker 1: and watch it burn because I didn't get to keep
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Speaker 1: what I wanted. That's messed up, folks. That is messed up.
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Speaker 1: When I say the left is losing their minds, it's
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Speaker 1: not just them trying to start War War three and
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Speaker 1: hand it over to Trump as a parting gift, Like
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Speaker 1: all right, well you didn't select us the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 1: so we're going to set the world on fire. Literally,
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Speaker 1: that's what they're doing right now. But there's also women
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Speaker 1: who are refusing to have sex with men pro create
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Speaker 1: and are shaving their heads because Trump won. That is
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Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome. These are the psychos of the left.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: Leftists are now coming out with a new pledge. This
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Speaker 1: isn't a joke. They're going to load up on supplies
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Speaker 1: before Biden leaves office, I guess like four years or
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Speaker 1: a supplies, and then they're pledging to buy nothing for
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Speaker 1: the next four years, to specifically tank what they refer
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Speaker 1: to as not the US economy, right, but to tank
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's economy. Good luck with that plan, use psychos.
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Speaker 1: Now leftists have this. They are calling it their master
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Speaker 1: plan for the next four years to ensure that president
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Speaker 1: like Donald Trump's economy is a disaster, so they're not
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Speaker 1: going to buy anything. Leftists across the country are deciding
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Speaker 1: this is the best way to I guess respect the
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Speaker 1: election results, right that we just had and Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: we all know, won the popular vote as well. Well,
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Speaker 1: there's a sizeable shit the electorate and a clear mandate
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Speaker 1: for change and many that are not happy with the economy.
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Speaker 1: But the leftists, well they're angry, and they're saying, here's
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Speaker 1: what we're going to do. Quote Trump will not have
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Speaker 1: a good economy because we don't have to let him.
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Speaker 1: We plan on paying bills and saving every penny beyond that,
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Speaker 1: I will not contribute to this economy in any other way,
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Speaker 1: is what leftists are writing online. Plans are out there
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Speaker 1: strategically telling people that want to hurt Trump, which means
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Speaker 1: hurt the American people because it's the American economy, that
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Speaker 1: you should purchase all of your clothing you need for
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Speaker 1: the next four years before he takes office, and make
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Speaker 1: sure that you have everything you need for the next
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Speaker 1: four years. That would be like soap and toilet paper
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Speaker 1: and toiletries and everything that they say you're going to
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Speaker 1: spend money on. They're also pledging to refrain from eating
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Speaker 1: out unless it is an emergency that cannot be avoided. Further,
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Speaker 1: there will be no going to movies. They're pledging sporting
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Speaker 1: events or any local attractions. That's awesome. I don't have
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Speaker 1: to deal with them at games. I'm happy with that.
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Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with them at movies. That
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Speaker 1: means movies are going to become much more conservative. That's
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Speaker 1: great with me. That'll have much more like you know,
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Speaker 1: family values involved. That's awesome. Like everything I'm hearing so
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Speaker 1: far really sounds pretty amazing. New furniture they're saying, and
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Speaker 1: how so goods you need to buy them before January twentieth,
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Speaker 1: or wait until twenty twenty eight. They're also saying use
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Speaker 1: Black Friday as an opportunity to make sure you grab
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Speaker 1: any electronics or necessities to tank the economy of Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: One of them said, I'm going to install a few
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Speaker 1: other search bars and avoid Google as much as possible.
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Speaker 5: I will not buy a new car.
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Speaker 1: They're saying before twenty twenty eight, So if you want
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Speaker 1: to buy a car, buy it before January the twentieth,
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Speaker 1: so quote Trump doesn't get credit for it. Another one
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Speaker 1: said I'll do everything in my power to hold on
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Speaker 1: to as many dollars as possible, making it clear that
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Speaker 1: they quote do not care about the consequences of a
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Speaker 1: poor economy. They're actually rooting for their fellow business owners
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Speaker 1: or their fellow citizens to suffer as a consequence. For
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Speaker 1: the majority of Americans of voting for Donald Trump, this
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Speaker 1: is what you get, the consequences of a poor economy.
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Speaker 1: Another user said this about their plans, saying, over the
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Speaker 1: next four years, I highly suggest folks tighten their belts.
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Speaker 1: And it's been as little as possible except for the
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Speaker 1: essentials like food, utilities rent. After writing the coattails of
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Speaker 1: President Biden's amazing all caps economy for his first six
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Speaker 1: months in office, Trump is going to destroy it with
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Speaker 1: dumb policies. Not buying extra blank will help sink the
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Speaker 1: economy too. It won't be hard since everything will be
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Speaker 1: three hundred percent more expensive. By the way, that's not
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Speaker 1: going to happen. But I love when liberals fearmonger and lie,
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Speaker 1: save the money, pass it on, make it go viral.
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Speaker 1: So this is their new plan to hurt all Americans
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Speaker 1: with a bad economy. Users are also claiming that Trump's
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Speaker 1: tariff plan will sink the economy, even though that's actually
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Speaker 1: not what it's going to do, saying that this is
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Speaker 1: just another example of why the people that voted for
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Speaker 1: Trump quote deserve to suffer. Other leftists agree with all
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Speaker 1: these assertions, claiming this is Trump's quote second good economy.
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Speaker 1: He's being handed to tank like his business, ignoring the
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Speaker 1: rampant inflation record high gas prices throughout President Biden's term
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Speaker 1: in office. In fact, inflation continues to push prices up
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Speaker 1: in October, not down. Prices rose with the fastest monthly
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Speaker 1: rate since April in October. But they're saying that Bidenomics
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Speaker 1: is working and that everything right now is amazing, so
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Speaker 1: anything bad that happens has to be quote Donald Trump's fault.
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Speaker 1: Another user said, it is our deliberate plan to sink
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Speaker 1: the economy to tank Trump. Many people may suffer. I
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Speaker 1: don't care. They were stupid and voted for this man.
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Speaker 1: So there you go. If you think Democrats want to
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Speaker 1: work together, the next time they say, oh, this is
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Speaker 1: all about bipartisanship in Congress. And when you see Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden sitting there with Donald Trump saying we want to
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Speaker 1: work together and have a smooth transition of power. They
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Speaker 1: literally changed the entire foreign policy and told Ukraine go
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Speaker 1: ahead and shoot American missiles deep deep into Russia to
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Speaker 1: start World War three, a policy decision that they were
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Speaker 1: adamant against, telling Ukraine do not do this for the
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Speaker 1: last thousand days. And the reason why is because they
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Speaker 1: didn't want to deal with the backlash. Well now they're like,
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Speaker 1: a screw it, do it, burn it all to hell.
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Speaker 1: We don't care. Just burn it all down, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: just burn it down. This is the problem with these psychos.
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Speaker 1: When they don't get their way, they will do whatever
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Speaker 1: they have to do to hurt people, hoping that will
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Speaker 1: somehow bring you back to them. Because if things get
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Speaker 1: so bad, you beck, all right, screw it, I'll go
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Speaker 1: back to the Democratic Party. Now, this also goes to
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Speaker 1: another issue, and that is what's happening in Pennsylvania right now.
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Speaker 1: Democrat officials in Pennsylvania counties, several of them, are choosing
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Speaker 1: deliberately to defy the state's court's vote count ruling.
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Speaker 5: This is truly shocking.
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Speaker 1: We went into deep detail on Verdict with Center Ted
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Speaker 1: Cruz on this issue, and I want you to hear
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Speaker 1: part of what Center Cruz has to say about this
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Speaker 1: in a moment, because what they are doing in Marshall
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Speaker 1: three to one, Democrats in Buck County, Pennsylvania are deliberately
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Speaker 1: quote choosing to defy a state Supreme Court ruling by
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Speaker 1: validating provisional ballots that were missing a matching signature.
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Speaker 5: This is all rigging an election. How bad is it?
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Speaker 1: The Washington Post is even calling them out. The New
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Speaker 1: York Times is even calling them out, saying that this,
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Speaker 1: what they're doing in these counties is clearly illegal, all
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Speaker 1: because they can't stand the fact that they actually lost
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Speaker 1: an election. Democrats this morning going in on immigration reform
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Speaker 1: and sang that, well, you know, the people that voted
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Speaker 1: for illegal immigrants to be kicked out of the country,
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Speaker 1: that was only the criminals. It wasn't Grandma. They weren't
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Speaker 1: saying they wanted Grandma kicked out of the country that
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Speaker 1: came in illegally. They just wanted illegal immigrants that had
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Speaker 1: committed heinous crimes kicked out of the country. That's it
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Speaker 1: moving the goalpost yet again. Tom Homan talking about the
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Speaker 1: plans of this administration on Fox and Friends and laying
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Speaker 1: out the agenda and what you can expect day one.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen.
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Speaker 6: President Election bridg to declare a national emergency and use
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Speaker 6: military assets to get the border crisis under control. But
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Speaker 6: blue state leaders wasted no time pushing back lot.
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Speaker 7: I will not tolerate actions that harm Arizonans, that harm
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Speaker 7: our communities, and quite honestly, divert resources from providing real security.
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Speaker 8: At our border.
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Speaker 5: The idea of calling out the army into the domestic
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Speaker 5: confines of the United States seems uncalled for.
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Speaker 6: This morning, President elect Trump's incoming borders are Tom Holman
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Speaker 6: is joining us right now. Hey, Tom, so, brother, let's
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Speaker 6: break down this. Because you see all these media experts
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Speaker 6: saying that a Buayla is going.
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Speaker 4: To be deported.
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Speaker 6: I think you have two priorities right First, you got
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Speaker 6: to get the criminal element, which everyone agrees with. And
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Speaker 6: then number two, you go straight for those eight million
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Speaker 6: people that have been coming across the border.
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Speaker 4: Under Joe Biden, right.
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Speaker 9: We got three rails of business lawrence. First ball, we
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Speaker 9: got a security border. We know how to do that,
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Speaker 9: we've done it before. A second ball, we need to
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Speaker 9: run this deportation operations. The President's been clear we're going
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Speaker 9: to out of the gate. We're going to focus on
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Speaker 9: public safety threats and national security threats first.
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Speaker 4: And fugitives.
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Speaker 9: Those who crossed the border legally had great due process,
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Speaker 9: a great taxpayers. Fans were ordered removed by an immigration
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Speaker 9: judge and didn't leave. They're also a priority. In third rail,
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Speaker 9: we got to find over three hundred thousand children that
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Speaker 9: were released into this country to so called sponsors that
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Speaker 9: the government camp find. We also got to find them
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Speaker 9: children to try to save them.
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Speaker 6: So real quick toime, do you deputize the local state
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Speaker 6: police like Texas DPS wants to work with Ice, they
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Speaker 6: want to work with the border patrol. Do they get
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Speaker 6: deputized to help out with this crisis.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're gonna far to the twenty seven Gjail Program,
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Speaker 9: twenty seven G Task Force, programs for law enforce agencies.
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Speaker 9: I want to help. Since I've been since I've been
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Speaker 9: announced Lawrence Week, I've gotten thousands of of soldiers that
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Speaker 9: just recently left the military. They want to join forces,
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Speaker 9: police officers that retired wanted to join forces, but retired, borbitchoices,
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Speaker 9: retired h ICE sates that want to come back retirement
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Speaker 9: from borbitroll that paperwork is pulled back. There's a lot
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Speaker 9: of excitement to do this job for the President of
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Speaker 9: United States.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Tom, I want to get your reaction to this story.
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Speaker 6: Apparently the roommate of the legal immigrant accused of murder
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Speaker 6: in Lincoln Riley testify yesterday that they took the humanitarian
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Speaker 6: flight from New York City to Georgia before they killed
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Speaker 6: Lincoln Riley.
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Speaker 4: What's your reaction to that.
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Speaker 9: Look, he should have been arrested by ICE in New
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Speaker 9: York City, but they're saying Stuary City. He should never
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Speaker 9: be in the country. Under President Trump, he wouldn't have
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Speaker 9: been here. He would have been waiting in Mexico on
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Speaker 9: the Remain in Mexico program. But here's what I want
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Speaker 9: for all those mayors and governors who said they're going
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Speaker 9: to push back an ICE to do this operation. I
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Speaker 9: want you to listen to that tape of the young
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Speaker 9: that young lady fighting for her life, fighting for her breath.
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Speaker 9: She did not want to die, and she fought hard.
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Speaker 9: Listen to it. Just don't say, okay, another one died.
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Speaker 9: I want you listen to the struggles because that happens
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Speaker 9: across this country almost every day by an illegal alien.
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Speaker 9: So I want those sanctuary city people. All they say
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Speaker 9: they're gonn push back in Ice, listen to that and
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Speaker 9: tell me. I just said President Trump wants to take
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Speaker 9: public safety threats off the street.
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Speaker 4: That's a priority.
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Speaker 9: As elected mayor, elected governor, are you telling me that
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Speaker 9: you don't want public safety threats out of your communities?
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Speaker 9: That is your number one responsibility to protect the community.
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Speaker 9: So smart en up and work with.
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Speaker 4: Us Tom real quickly.
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Speaker 6: What happens to a mayor or local police department chief
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Speaker 6: that is under a democratic leadership that obstructs ICE in,
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Speaker 6: your federal agents that are helping get these deportations of
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Speaker 6: what happens to them?
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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, if the don't want to help
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Speaker 9: us get the hell out the way, if we're going
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Speaker 9: to do it, If I got sent twice amount of
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Speaker 9: resources that city. That's what we're going to do. If
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Speaker 9: they able to give us access to the jail, that
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Speaker 9: will mean less agents than the community. For them pushing
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Speaker 9: back and not let us in the jail, it just
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Speaker 9: means more agents are gonna be in the community. So
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Speaker 9: they're hurting themselves. Finally, I'll say this, they need to
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Speaker 9: educate themselves. They need to review this title eight the
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Speaker 9: United States Cold thirteen twenty triple I read about that,
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Speaker 9: and don't cross that line because it is a felony
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Speaker 9: to harbor and conceal an illegal anilins from Mice. Read
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Speaker 9: the statue, don't cross that line.
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Speaker 1: That's the warning from Tom Holman, read the statute, don't
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Speaker 1: cross that line. Democrats doing everything that they can right
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Speaker 1: now to undermine what it is to keep us safe.
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Speaker 1: This is all about trying to keep us safe. That's
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Speaker 1: what this should be about. And Tom Holman laying it
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Speaker 1: out there saying, there's a lot of people that are ready,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that are very very very very
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Speaker 1: willing and ready to do what they need to do
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Speaker 1: to quote keep us safe, and that is I think sad.
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Speaker 1: We also are now hearing that a FEMA official is
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Speaker 1: now claiming she's the victim. She is the victim now
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Speaker 1: saying she's been escape goaded. The FEMA supervisor Marnie Washington
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Speaker 1: went on Fox to discuss why she was fired him
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Speaker 1: an allegation she told workers to direct hurricane relief away
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Speaker 1: from Trump supporters' homes. Take a listen.
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Speaker 10: We keep having this messaging coming out of these agencies,
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Speaker 10: especially during the Biden Harris administration, that you know, there's
20:23
Speaker 10: nothing to see here with regards to FEMA. They are
20:27
Speaker 10: being now presented with evidence that they were treating people
20:30
Speaker 10: differently based on their partisan views. That is an incredible
20:35
Speaker 10: discovery in the United States of America, and so of
20:38
Speaker 10: course you're going to have to have an investigation.
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Speaker 5: We're not going to wait well.
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Speaker 11: FEMA insisting that the case of an agency supervisor telling
20:45
Speaker 11: relief workers to avoid Trump campaign signs at homes during
20:49
Speaker 11: disaster response is an isolated incident.
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Speaker 8: Let's bring in the FEMA official who.
20:54
Speaker 11: Was fired over the incident but claims she has been
20:57
Speaker 11: made a scapegoat, Marti Washington.
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Speaker 8: Martni, thank you so much for coming on.
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Speaker 11: I want to read this because this is from the
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Speaker 11: FEMA administrator, Diane Criswell. She said this, and she's talking
21:07
Speaker 11: about you, she said, quoting here. Recently, a FEMA employee
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Speaker 11: departed from these values to advise her survivor assistance team
21:14
Speaker 11: to not go to homes with yard signs supporting President
21:17
Speaker 11: elect Trump.
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Speaker 8: This was reprehensible. I want to be clear to all of.
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Speaker 11: My employees and the American people, this type of behavior
21:25
Speaker 11: and action will not be tolerated at FEMA. You say,
21:29
Speaker 11: this is not your policy. You're not political, you don't
21:32
Speaker 11: care about the right or the left. You are simply
21:34
Speaker 11: doing your job and following your orders. So you're telling
21:37
Speaker 11: me these orders came from somebody above.
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Speaker 5: Correct.
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Speaker 12: And when I first reported to Florida, I was already
21:44
Speaker 12: on another team. I was there as a specialist. This
21:47
Speaker 12: was the culture. They were already avoiding these homes based
21:51
Speaker 12: on community trends from hostile political encounters. It has nothing
21:55
Speaker 12: to do with the campaign sign. It just so happened
21:58
Speaker 12: to be part of the community trend. When you focus
22:01
Speaker 12: in on the campaign sign, you are violating the Hatch Act.
22:07
Speaker 12: So that is something that FEMA definitely wants to stay
22:10
Speaker 12: away from because it was created in nineteen thirty nine,
22:14
Speaker 12: and that was to protect citizens from being alienated based
22:20
Speaker 12: on their political stance.
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Speaker 11: So, just so we're clear, you're saying that basically FEMA
22:24
Speaker 11: was doing this out of safety.
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Speaker 8: They were gonna say it because they had.
22:27
Speaker 11: Some adversarial conflicts with some people with Trump signs in
22:30
Speaker 11: their front yard, so they banned every Trump sign.
22:33
Speaker 8: They said, don't go to any homes of Trump signs.
22:35
Speaker 11: And if that's the case, why would they come down
22:38
Speaker 11: so hard on you? Why are you the scapegoat? Why
22:40
Speaker 11: are you the one they're saying was quote reprehensible for
22:44
Speaker 11: actually putting this in place when you did not put
22:46
Speaker 11: this in place.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's reprehensible as they're not being transparent. Why is
22:51
Speaker 12: this coming down on me? I am the person that
22:53
Speaker 12: jotted down the notes from my superiors, and my notation
22:57
Speaker 12: in teams chat was exposed from their surge capacity team.
23:02
Speaker 12: That's exactly what happened. And it's easier then say, well, haha,
23:06
Speaker 12: it's her name, it's her, it's her writing, right, make
23:10
Speaker 12: her accountable for it. But I'm just simply executing again
23:15
Speaker 12: what was coming down from my superiors.
23:17
Speaker 11: Right, And I'm wondering because it says things like when
23:20
Speaker 11: on this list that says avoid the Trump houses, drink
23:23
Speaker 11: water take rest breaks.
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Speaker 8: There's a list of things.
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Speaker 11: You didn't come up with those either, right now, So
23:28
Speaker 11: you didn't come up with any of this list?
23:29
Speaker 8: Is that a fair assessment, sir?
23:32
Speaker 11: And I'm wondering, how do you prove that, Marty, you're
23:34
Speaker 11: trying to you're trying to save your reputation.
23:37
Speaker 8: How do you prove that that this order came from above?
23:41
Speaker 12: Well, the last time I was that question was posed,
23:44
Speaker 12: I verbally called on all DSA crew leads and specialists
23:49
Speaker 12: that are still active with FEMA and former to come
23:52
Speaker 12: forward and discuss our avoidance policies, our de escalation and policies, because,
23:57
Speaker 12: to be honest with you, we don't just get just
24:00
Speaker 12: I know, the highlight here is is the Trump campaign signage.
24:03
Speaker 12: But if someone is in another like an urban community,
24:06
Speaker 12: and it's a different culture, and someone feels uncomfortable, we
24:12
Speaker 12: can't go to that home. If you have loose dogs
24:14
Speaker 12: and someone on the team was comfortable with dogs and
24:16
Speaker 12: another person is not, we can't go to that home
24:19
Speaker 12: because of safety precautions.
24:21
Speaker 8: So you feared the Trump houses.
24:22
Speaker 11: The people on FEMA were fearing the Trump houses like
24:24
Speaker 11: they were faring people with vicious dogs in their backyard.
24:28
Speaker 12: Exactly, And that's based on the that's based on the trends.
24:32
Speaker 12: You can ask FEMA for incident reports. They have those
24:35
Speaker 12: because they ask us to report out if there's an
24:38
Speaker 12: incident at home. And unfortunately, again the passionate supporters for Trump.
24:45
Speaker 12: Some of them were a little bit violent.
24:48
Speaker 8: But all of them were.
24:49
Speaker 11: All of them were painted with the same broad brush,
24:51
Speaker 11: all of them as being we're not going to go
24:53
Speaker 11: near these because we think they're all bad people.
24:55
Speaker 12: No, because some were registered, some did receive casing inquiries
25:00
Speaker 12: and updates. Some of them came outside and said, Hi,
25:05
Speaker 12: I appreciate what you're doing. I would like to participate.
25:08
Speaker 12: And then some were very vocal and firm that they
25:11
Speaker 12: didn't want anything to do with FEMA and they thought
25:14
Speaker 12: that we were crooks.
25:15
Speaker 11: And lastly, we've got to go. I've got run out
25:18
Speaker 11: of time here. Did this also happen in other places?
25:21
Speaker 11: This was Florida, But did it happen in North Carolina?
25:23
Speaker 11: Did it happen in other places.
25:24
Speaker 12: Georgia as well? Just ask the crew leads in the specialists.
25:28
Speaker 12: They will discuss their avoidance and their de escalation methods
25:31
Speaker 12: in the field. And I think Miss Chris Well would
25:34
Speaker 12: be happy to know what's going on.
25:36
Speaker 8: Truly, Martie, thank you for coming on. We appreciate it.
25:40
Speaker 8: Thank you.
25:40
Speaker 4: Well.
25:41
Speaker 1: Let me say three things about this. One part of
25:44
Speaker 1: what she's saying is probably true, that this was not
25:48
Speaker 1: just like a one off and she's the scapegoat. I mean,
25:51
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear she doesn't like Trump supporters, right.
25:54
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I also believe that she's
25:57
Speaker 1: probably not lying when she's like, dude, this is like
26:00
Speaker 1: what we did all over the country. I have no
26:02
Speaker 1: reason to believe she's not telling the truth that Hey,
26:06
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. You guys need to dial
26:08
Speaker 1: it down, Like I'm not the only one that where
26:10
Speaker 1: this was happening. I'm not the only one that was
26:13
Speaker 1: doing this. This was a This was a policy that
26:15
Speaker 1: was all over the place like this is this is
26:18
Speaker 1: a policy that that that everybody knew about. This was
26:22
Speaker 1: a this was a policy that like we were implementing
26:26
Speaker 1: all over the places. If there was a Trump sign
26:28
Speaker 1: like you pretty much ran away from it. Unbelievable. Illegal
26:33
Speaker 1: immigrant convicted of the lake and Riley murderer will get
26:36
Speaker 1: life in prison. I'm sorry, that's not justice. Justice would
26:42
Speaker 1: have been the death penalty. Justice would have been the
26:46
Speaker 1: death penalty straight up, and the death penalty was not given,
26:52
Speaker 1: and Lake and Lowry's stepfather read to the court one
26:57
Speaker 1: of her last journal entries. He read this at the sentencing.
27:02
Speaker 1: I want you to listen to what he said.
27:05
Speaker 13: I'm so proud of Lincoln and the beautiful person she was,
27:09
Speaker 13: and well I could stand here and try to tell
27:12
Speaker 13: the world the things that made her such a wonderful person,
27:16
Speaker 13: as well as in many things we have all been
27:18
Speaker 13: robbed and deprived of. I think one of her last
27:23
Speaker 13: journal entries, dated twelve seventeen twenty three, says it best.
27:32
Speaker 4: So here we go.
27:35
Speaker 14: To my future husband.
27:38
Speaker 13: As silly as I feel writing this, my old small
27:40
Speaker 13: group leader once recommended it. So here I am to
27:46
Speaker 13: my future husband. I want you to know that I'm
27:49
Speaker 13: thinking about you. I'm working every day to become the
27:54
Speaker 13: best wife I can be, working through my current relationships
27:58
Speaker 13: that that's prepare me for and our kids one day.
28:03
Speaker 13: I'm focusing on God and what he defines. They're faithful
28:07
Speaker 13: Christian life and so that I can best embody those characteristics.
28:12
Speaker 13: I pray that you know that is with my full
28:14
Speaker 13: faith and trust in God that I know this relationship
28:18
Speaker 13: has been hand crafted by Him. I pray that we
28:22
Speaker 13: continue to glorify the Lord, prioritize Him in every aspect
28:25
Speaker 13: of our lives, and raise our family our future family
28:29
Speaker 13: to be God fearing Christians as well. I pray God
28:33
Speaker 13: is the center of our relationship as it is a
28:36
Speaker 13: gift from Him. I thank Him for you before I
28:40
Speaker 13: even know you, and can't wait to love you in
28:44
Speaker 13: the best way I know how for the rest of
28:47
Speaker 13: our lives. And I pray you know and feel the
28:50
Speaker 13: importance of my love and hopes for our relationship no
28:54
Speaker 13: matter what challenges we face. I pray that our trust
28:57
Speaker 13: in God and love for one another what over rules
29:00
Speaker 13: the obstacle, may our relationship last forever. Your future wife,
29:07
Speaker 13: lacoln that your honor was our beautiful Laken, that your
29:13
Speaker 13: honor is just a guyintpce of what was tragically and
29:17
Speaker 13: brutally take it from her and us.
29:19
Speaker 1: That day, you listen to Lake and riley stepfather reading
29:22
Speaker 1: one of her last journal entries before the court, and
29:26
Speaker 1: you then think about these governors and mayors who are
29:30
Speaker 1: refusing to work with ice to deport the worst among
29:33
Speaker 1: us of the illegal immigrants that have come into this country.
29:36
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. It makes me sad,
29:46
Speaker 1: It shocks me. It is truly incredible that we still
29:53
Speaker 1: have this many people, after seeing what happened to Lake
29:57
Speaker 1: and Riley, who are willing to still harbor criminals that
30:02
Speaker 1: should never be in this country and people that have
30:06
Speaker 1: committed crimes while in this country who they still harbor
30:09
Speaker 1: in this country. It is incredibly sad. You look at
30:13
Speaker 1: that closing testimony there and you see that they've obviously
30:19
Speaker 1: come back with a sentence, the judge making it clear
30:24
Speaker 1: what is the sentence life in prison.
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Speaker 14: Stage or event in this u in this tragedy. And
30:32
Speaker 14: that's that's the way I view that people. People mean
30:38
Speaker 14: well by making that saying that.
30:40
Speaker 4: But it's.
30:43
Speaker 14: I've heard it explain that when you have something like
30:47
Speaker 14: this that impacts one.
30:53
Speaker 15: Or many, you even have to make it conscious effort
31:00
Speaker 15: to breathe it sometimes, and that just comes on you
31:05
Speaker 15: at any particular you know, if you just don't know
31:07
Speaker 15: what's gonna bring it on you, and you realize that
31:12
Speaker 15: you do make it through the day, but you don't know.
31:14
Speaker 4: How you did it.
31:22
Speaker 14: But I also and this goes back to what Carrie
31:28
Speaker 14: Howell was saying that, you know, it's as many times.
31:33
Speaker 4: As you.
31:35
Speaker 14: Reflect on the loss, at some point you start smiling
31:42
Speaker 14: about the memories, and I'm hopeful that at some point
31:47
Speaker 14: that takes over to a certain extent. But there's very
31:55
Speaker 14: little and including the sentence of mister o'bara, that's going to.
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Speaker 4: Help much.
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Speaker 1: The judge then said this.
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Speaker 14: With that, mister Barr, if you will please stand count
32:15
Speaker 14: one malice murder, I'll send you to life without the possibility.
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Speaker 1: Parole, life without a chance of parole. It still doesn't
32:26
Speaker 1: feel like it's enough. You want to know why I'm
32:27
Speaker 1: in favor of the death penalty. This is exactly why.
32:30
Speaker 1: This is why I'm in favor of the death penalty.
32:33
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