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[BxBD] Opetaia's problems and Guatemala's finest: Lester Martinez · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. All right. Boxing Before
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Dark. Holy shit. We are back. Shanada. We have,
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this is like a two month old comment, but we
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have an angry listener. Oh, nice. I like it.
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So here, I'm going to read you the comment. I'm
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not sure who this is directed at, but it was
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on a Boxing Before Dark video. So it's one of
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the two of us. Here, here, exact words from BC355.
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How dare you comment on people from UK for thinking
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we can't be bothered to travel 40 minutes to
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see relatives. So many of us have traveled the
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world, seen so many different cultures and people
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from different environments. Most of you guys
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don't even have passports because you think that
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the US is the world. It's probably talking about
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me then. I'm not saying that you're on that list
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because I don't know you, just like you obviously
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have no idea about the average person in the
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UK. Alright. This was two months ago. So it's
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January time frame. But we definitely talked
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about it on the podcast. I remember. Of course.
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Because I went to the UK. Which is how I was
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able to speak with such confidence. Because every
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single UK person that I met. Which was in Liverpool.
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Thanks to Robbie. And how fucking outgoing he
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is. It was a lot of people in Liverpool. Thanks
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to me, just going out in Manchester and Leeds,
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it was quite a few people. And same with London.
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And the joke that I made every time rang true
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with all of them. It was, to Americans, 100 years
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is a long time. To Brits, 100 miles is a long
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way. yeah and they all thought like yeah oh shit
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like ha ha ha goddamn yankee that's exactly right
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yeah yeah yes i know i i knew it was right before
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i came but i you thank you all for confirming
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yeah i don't mean to generalize everybody in
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the uk of course that was never my intention
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but based on the myriad of people that i did
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meet traveling 40 minutes an hour is a long fucking
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way. Cause like talking to them, uh, I, when
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I was talking about going to see, uh, you bank
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Ben and I was telling them like where I was staying
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in London compared to where the fight was. And
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they're like, Oh shit, that's a lot. Like that's
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a, that's a bit of a hike even with taking the
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subway. Well, like you gotta make it work, man.
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If you really want to go to these things, you
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gotta make it work. Yeah, like I'm going to those
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fights in Yokohama and it's about it's probably
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going to be a little over two hours with trains
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and buses and stuff. And people are like, oh,
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my God, you're doing that in one day. I'm like,
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yeah, I want to see the fight. It's pretty fucking
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standard in North America. Yeah. Like I go to
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Tokyo fairly often and people are like, no, that's
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like that's a big thing to do. You have to plan
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that. It's a fucking 40 minutes on the train,
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guys. well but it's worth it to visit family
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i agree for family absolutely maybe maybe that
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is the generalization that is when they didn't
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like yeah yeah yeah yeah going for family maybe
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that's a totally different story but like going
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to like talking i've driven 40 minutes for mcdonald's
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i've driven an hour and a half for mcdonald's
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so sometimes you gotta have those fries man look
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they're so good yeah The people in Liverpool,
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I think it was 90 minutes by train from Liverpool
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to London. Yeah. And they're like, oh, that's
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way too far. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, I know
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Robbie said he hasn't been to London in years
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and years. Since he was like 13, he said. Yeah.
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Like, bro, that's not that far. And he's like
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30 -something. Yeah. Man, it's different because
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that distance that he has to travel to get to
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London, that's how far away my sister lives.
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But that's totally different, going to a fight
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in London versus going to visit your family.
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I'd probably go to the fights. Well, that's a
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lie. I used to drive four hours twice a month
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to see my family. But yeah, I think the family
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part is the... Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I know people
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in the UK visit family. Of course. I have heard
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people complain. About driving too far. And it's
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not that far. It's like what I do to get my mail.
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Yeah, there are social media people, like personalities,
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who specifically, that I know of, a British guy
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and a French guy. And both of them are like,
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you have no idea. how big this place is oh yeah
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that move to america yeah yeah there's a couple
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guys that did the same thing in canada as well
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yeah of course and they're like same same i said
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i wanted to see the rocky mountains and i'm living
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in i think he was in um saskatchewan somewhere
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i think he was in regina and it's like a 10 -hour
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drive and people are like oh yeah we'll plan
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a we'll plan like a long weekend trip and he's
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like no But my family used to go on a ski trip
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twice a year, and we drove eight and a half hours
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to get there. Like, driving to L .A. is about,
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like, it's about six hours on the road. I've
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done that for long weekends, like when we did
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Bud Madrimov. Yeah. It's pretty standard. Yeah,
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I guess priorities, and it's, like, it's also
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relative. Like, because for me... Driving six
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hours, not that big of a deal. Yeah. Yeah. But
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keeping family out of it, because that's totally
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different circumstances. But I'm super excited
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we got a comment, even if it's a pissed off one.
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Oh, we also, Pedro has been commenting on our
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stuff, too. Oh, has he? Yeah. Where do people
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comment? Because I only listen on YouTube. Yeah,
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they're commenting on YouTube. Ah, shit. I'm
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just too early, I guess. I got my notification
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turned on. But I think that's going to do it
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for our unrelated stuff. We were talking last
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time, as we shift away from Punch, who has been
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accepted by his troop, they took his plushie
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away. They gave it to another orphaned baby.
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Oh, nice. Not baboon or macaque. I think it was
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a chimpanzee. Okay. But they gave it to another
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baby that needs a cuddle friend. And as we shift
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our animal focus, the pygmy hippo that was born
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here in Arizona a few weeks ago is named Jelly
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Bean. That's a perfect name for pygmy hippos.
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Yes, it's very, very cute. There's already the
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online discussion of Jelly Bean versus Mudang.
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Mudang. Yep. Of course. Like, why do we have
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to pit women against each other? Why can't we
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just build each other up? Just be friends. Yeah,
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dude. Fellow lady hippos being homies. What's
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the problem? Named after food. Is that what mudang
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is? Mudang's like fatty pork bowls, yeah. Oh,
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fuck. Man, there's a dish in Korea. It's called
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eodang, and it's like fish cake. oh okay so not
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quite the same but then like when i heard mudang
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i was like huh is that like beef cake just uh
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dumb i think it's pork i think it's pork um but
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we'll keep up with jellybean see what sort of
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shenanigans she gets up to um but into the boxing
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news finally well is it The IBF has stripped
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Jannebeck. I'm trying to think. Finally, because
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like technically, yes, he did pop for PEDs. But
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the medical circumstances behind it, if we take
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Team Jannebeck at their word. I think they did
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release some medical records to the Boxing Commission
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or whatever it is. So he was in the hospital
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for something with stroke -like symptoms. And
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that one he popped for is... If I understand
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the science properly, and I might not, it helps
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your body use sugar more efficiently. So I don't
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really know how that one helps with a stroke.
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But I am not a medical doctor, so maybe that's
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super obvious to people who know stuff. I don't
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know. Or maybe it was just him trying to cover
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up that he was healing from being in the hospital
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and took steroids. Using sugar more efficiently,
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that does sound like you're cutting weight. Yeah.
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This still smells like, oh, dang, still a little
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fishy, but. Yeah. But if he really had a stroke,
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I fucking hate when boxers go back in the ring
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after stuff like that. Yes. Major medical issues.
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Dog, if you genuinely had a stroke, as you claim,
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it's time to call it quits. Yeah. Like you've
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made a lot of money. It's not worth dying. Right.
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Open a gym. Kazakhstan, like, fucking team up
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with Triple G. Get another energy drink out there.
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There's other shit you can do, man. Yeah. You
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don't have to not work. You just need to not
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get punched in the head for a living. Or cut,
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like, 30 fucking pounds to make weight for a
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fight, like, two or three times a year. That's
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true, too. Yeah. I guess we'll have to keep watching
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to see how this shapes out. Like, not necessarily.
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Like, the IBF, they've stripped him, so that
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ship has sailed. WBO gave him that retroactive
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suspension. The Kazakh Commission gave him that
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retroactive suspension. Of, like, one year, which
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he was probably going to be off anyway. Right.
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If he had a stroke, like, a year is... Not a
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lot of time to be taken off. Like, you should
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be taking more, if not indefinite. Like, yeah,
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exactly. But yeah, we'll see how this shapes
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out, because things are still fishy here. Frank
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Sanchez, his knee was inflamed, I think was the
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word. So his fight with Richard Torres, that
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was the co -main for Fundora Thurman. That fight
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has been postponed. Brian Mendoza versus Yohannes
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Taez is now the co -main. Mendoza's fun. Yes.
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Like, that should be a good co -main. Probably
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better than Richard Torres, to be honest. Mendoza
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is fun. I just don't like the heavyweights very
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much. Shenada biases. They don't throw any punches.
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I think Richard Torres would have thrown a lot.
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He is more active. If anyone was going to make
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it stinky, it would have been Frank. Not just
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because he's Cuban, but also because his knee,
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it's a known issue. Yeah, it's a known issue.
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And that he's a Cuban like 33, so he's probably
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like 40. Exactly. But Brian Mendoza is fun, as
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you put it. Yoannis Tejas, I don't remember if
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he's been back since he lost to Bas Baru, but
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he did give a spirited performance even in that
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loss. So this is not a bad comeback for Tejas.
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It's a winnable comeback. Yeah, this one isn't
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like a foregone conclusion or anything. I think
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it'll be a fun co -main. I think it'll be pretty
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close. Yeah, it should be competitive. Michaela
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Mayer has parted ways with Top Rank. She's now
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signed with Most Valuable Promotions. MVPW, I
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think, is the subsidiary that they're using.
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Oh, okay. I was like, what the fuck's the W?
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But yeah, yeah. It's Watermelon. I'm just slow.
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What was nice was Michaela Mayer took to social
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media and she's been saying like, I'm beyond
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grateful for the time I had with Top Rank. It
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was like the most wonderful 10 years ever. I'm
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grateful to Todd Duboff for taking a chance on
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me. I would not be who I am or in the position
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that I'm in without Top Rank. It's just nice
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to see somebody like parting ways with a promoter.
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And not saying, like, fuck that snake. Yeah,
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yeah. Well, and MVP is the place for the women.
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It is, absolutely. They get the women big fights,
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and they have fucking most of the good women
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boxers right now. So it should be easier to make
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some big fights. The only one missing from, like,
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the major women that are not signed with MVP,
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Clarissa Shields and Gabby. I don't know who
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else. Lauren Price, maybe? I think she's with
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Boxer. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't pay that much
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attention. Is Caroline Dubois MVP now? She is
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now. Yeah. I think this is a good move. And like
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you said, it's nice to see they're not burning
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bridges. Yeah, I think they'll do business again.
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MVP and top rank. I think they will anyway. And
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MVP, they don't really have a TV deal, but they
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seem to be able to get their boxers spots. MVPW
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has a TV deal with ESPN. Oh, do they? Yes. Yeah,
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we talked about it, where it was like they probably
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don't have to pay as much because it's women's
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fights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they'll still pay
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a decent premium, at least. Top Rank needs some
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sort of broadcast deal. Speaking of top ranks
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woes, Teofimo Lopez tweeted, then deleted within
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a span of like two minutes. Quote, I may never
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fight again. His words. I mean, the almost instant
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deletion, I assume this is just Teemo, Teemo?
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Teo having a bad day. Yeah, that was something
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I didn't put into Discord was like, I know. What
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a depressive episode feels like. And I want to
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type into Twitter, like, I would prefer to set
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myself on fire than have to fucking deal with
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anything right now. Yeah. Well, and I'm sure
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his dad had just gotten finished chewing him
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out or something. My dad was a piece of shit,
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too, Teofimo. If you need to talk about it, bro,
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I'm here for you. Hardshell tacos. That's the
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whole fucking point of Hardshell Tacos. I don't
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know. I've said it a million times. I just feel
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bad for Tio. Yeah, I do too. I will still, if
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I ever get a chance to meet him and shake his
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hand, I will shake his hand with the Zoloft pill
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in my hand to pass it to him. I'm like, you want
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this. I'm telling you, you want this. Moving
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on to... Jordan Martinez, the guy that got the
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draw with Arturo Popoca. I think he goes by Cardenas
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now. But he got the draw. He signs with Matchroom.
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So, fuck yeah, dude. Local kid making it big.
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He has a greasy fucking box rec photo. Oh, my
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God. Have you seen it? Yes, I have. His... But
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that's... Matchroom's a big signing. That's good
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for him. It's a social media video that goes
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around. A guy is getting his mustache trimmed
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up, and the voiceover is like a fake cholo barber.
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It's like, we're going to get you looking all
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firme. Doing the fake whistle. That's exactly
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what he looks like. That is what he looks like.
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That guy getting his... Doesn't look bad, but
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that is just the most... It's a look. Yeah. It
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is a look. Speaking of looks, Ashton Silva is
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coming back. He will be fighting, I think...
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I don't know if he signed with MF Pro or Queensberry,
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but he's going to be fighting on the Wilder Chisora
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undercard. So, good to see him back. I gotta
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see a picture. Oh, nice, yeah. I recognize his
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picture. Yeah, good to see him make moves. They
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have quite a few Americans on that undercard.
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Are they trying to make it like a America versus
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US thing? US versus UK? So, like, would that
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be US, UK? Would that be You Suck? Yes. Yes,
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it would. You suck because you won't travel 45
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minutes to see your family. That's not true because
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you absolutely would. But yeah, you know what?
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I think that would be a solid way to build the
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card out. Yeah, I mean, people really get into
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that. I'm not very patriotic, so. The only time
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that it comes into play for me is when I don't
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know who I'm going to cheer for. So let's weigh
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our options. Are they American? No, then I'm
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not cheering for them. Are they Latino? Yes,
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then I'm cheering for them. But it just goes
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down like the flow chart. And that's only if
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it's like I don't. Wilder, Chizora, man, I'm
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going for the American, of course. I have to.
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Nah, I'm backing Chizora. Yeah, well, so what
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if I think he's actually going to win? I'm still
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going with Wilder. Ignore the evidence of your
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eyes and ears. I mean, that one's just going
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to be fun. Should be a good time. That is one
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of the few heavyweight fights that I'm like,
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this is just going to be entertaining. Hopefully.
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But I can't see Chizora not making it entertaining.
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Chizora is always entertaining. Usually entertaining.
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He's put on some stinkers. Yeah, but I didn't
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see those, so they don't count. Oh, okay then.
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I was going to say, his fights with Dillian White
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were just bad. Hot, hot garbage. Yeah, I don't
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think I saw those. His fight with Usyk? Not very
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entertaining. He tried his best to make it entertaining.
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Chizora sounding like a dying wildebeest in the
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corner was pretty entertaining. Yeah. In the
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Dillion White fights, he did a lot of taunting
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and showboating. I think at one point, he had
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Dillion White... They had tied up, and then he
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kind of got over to the top of them, and so,
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like, Dillian White was, like, bent over, and
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the ref was coming over, and then Derek Chisora
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just, like, thrust it on his head. Oh! Yeah,
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so that was pretty funny. Oh, man. Bam! Moving
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up to Bantamweight. Has me stressed the fuck
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out. Aiming for WBA champ Antonio Vargas. Because
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they recessed my boy again. They give him no
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time. What do you mean? So they brought him out
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of recess and then put him back? Yeah, so he
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is injured. He had to postpone his next fight.
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And so they instantly put him back in recess.
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They give Seiya Sutsumi zero time. Because the
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last time they recessed him for his eye, they
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put him in recess like a month after his fight,
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I think. And he fought within that same year,
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for sure. I think it was within seven months.
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Which was the Donair fight, right? Yeah, other
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champions don't get recessed like that. No, they
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don't. I don't know why they're fucking with
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Seiya so bad. Like, I don't understand it. Because
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he had to postpone his fight. But he fought Donair,
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what, in February? I think so. Like, it wasn't
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long ago. And... This next fight that they were
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talking about with Vargas, he had to postpone,
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but champions postpone fights all the fucking
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time and don't get recessed. I can only say that
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at least they didn't strip him. I guess, but...
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It's a small consolation, but... Anyways, if
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he has to come back to BAM, I think the Tsutsumi
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train might get derailed. Yeah. I'm still gonna
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ride with him, but it's not gonna be fun. Now
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you know how I feel about Wilder vs. Chizora.
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It's not like I don't cheer for people I know
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are losing all the time, Leo. Sometimes it's
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just what you must do. Stay aboard the ship as
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it goes down. I can't abandon my guy. And I love
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Bam. Like, it's not like I'm cheering against
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Bam, but... I haven't met Bam in person, so...
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He's very unassuming. Yeah, he seems like a really
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nice guy. He is. He is a nice guy. And if he
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didn't have tattoos on his face, you would think...
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Oh my god, they're so bad. They are, but if he
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didn't have those, you'd think he's like a teenager.
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Yeah, he's kind of baby -faced. Man, sticking
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with your guy, though, even though he might end
25:07
up in a position, a really poor position, it's...
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Can we get somebody to point out to Nova Scotia
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Boxing? Like, look, this is how you do it. Alright?
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You ride with your... You made your pick. And
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you fucking ride with it. And that's it. Or,
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if you want to jump off, then admit it and say,
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I was wrong. I made a bad choice. And then look
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at that. Well, and some of us cheer with our
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hearts and not with our heads. And that's fine.
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That's part of boxing. Yeah, like with Barrios
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vs. Ryan. If we didn't put the draw option out
25:56
there, I would have been with Barrios. Just because,
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like, I would like to see Ryan lose to a fucking
26:06
shitter. That would just be too funny. I want
26:11
the Rolly rematch, and I want Rolly to just do
26:15
the same thing. That is actually a good news
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point that I forgot about. Apparently... take
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social media posts for whatever they're worth.
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Haney Garcia too is in the works and it's in,
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it's in the, it's going well. The negotiations
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are going well, but that flies in the face of
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what we heard previously of Haney versus Raleigh.
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That was supposed to, that was allegedly in late
26:46
stage, serious negotiations. So I don't know.
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I don't know what to make of this. I mean, Garcia
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must be more money. Absolutely. So it wouldn't
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surprise me if they pivot. Like, if they can.
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But if Haney fights Rawley, I would like to see
27:07
Ryan fight Lewis Crocker. Just so they could
27:11
do the little tournament -ish. Yeah. Yeah, and
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unify. Yep. I guess it doesn't really matter
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which way you do it, though. Roley versus Crocker
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could also do the same thing. That's like the
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consolation bracket. But that's kind of what
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they rate, so whatever. I'd watch it. Yeah, I
27:39
would too. And not just because I'm a goddamn
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filthy neckbeard degenerate that never leaves
27:46
my office because I'm watching fight sports all
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the goddamn time. Oscar Duarte, Angel Fierro
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in negotiations for the Zerto Benavidez undercard.
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That's a fucking fireworks fight. Yeah. Yeah,
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I actually kind of really like Oscar Duarte.
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Yeah, he's solid. And he's action, which is basically
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all I ask for. Fiero is an all -action type of
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dude, too. Yeah. Nah, that would be a good undercard
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fight. That is a straight -up war of attrition.
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Yeah, and that would be a good setup for Zerdo
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Benavidez, I think. I agree. Luis Neri will be
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fighting in April against, I think, this... It's
28:50
probably top two, not two, your absolute most
28:55
favorite fighters ever. Jean -Brieuc Castanero?
29:02
Yeah, yeah. So I have made a new friend here
29:06
in Japan. She's from Brazil. And she said she
29:09
wants to come to that bar to a boxing match because
29:12
I took her there on a different night and she
29:14
had a lot of fun. And she's like, I want to see
29:16
the... The boxing atmosphere. And I was like,
29:18
okay, next card that I'm definitely watching
29:21
that's not in Japan will go. So these guys are
29:25
fighting in Kyrgyzstan. Why? Because it's the
29:30
Kamedas. They're doing a three -day thing. Like
29:35
a fight festival type of shit? Yeah, and they
29:37
always put music in between. In Kyrgyzstan. And
29:42
this is the Saturday fight in Japan. It might
29:47
be Sunday morning. But anyways, I told her I
29:50
would book us two seats at the bar for this one.
29:54
And I was like, you'll love it because it's two
29:57
fucking villains fighting and everyone hates
30:00
both of them. Two villains of Japan. Yeah, Louis
30:05
Neary is hated in Japan and John Riel Casamero
30:09
is hated in Japan. And I'm like, the fight's
30:12
probably going to be shit. Because Casamero has
30:15
looked like ass. Yeah, JRC is hot garbage. He
30:20
has been for quite some time. Yeah. Neary, I
30:23
think, bops him. Bad as fuck. Yeah, Neary's gonna
30:26
knock him out. Like, I'm gonna have to ride with
30:29
Neary on this one, which hurts me to say, but
30:31
it's gonna happen. Lesser of two evils situation.
30:36
But, I was like, this has all the boxing drama.
30:40
Like, we're gonna have to go for drinks before,
30:42
so I can... tell you who the Kamedas are, why
30:46
they're in Kyrgyzstan and they don't promote
30:49
in Japan very often, who Louis Neri is and what
30:53
he did, and who John Riel Casamero is and why
30:56
we hate him. So. Don't forget those. For her!
31:00
It's going to be a multi -day lesson on boxing
31:06
villain history. You've got to catch up on the
31:08
lore. Luis Neri beating Shinsuke Yamanaka back
31:13
in the day. Blowing weight twice. Popping for
31:17
pads. Popping for pads the first time. Getting
31:20
banned by the JBC. I think he's unbanned. Getting
31:26
banned by the government of Japan. Right, yeah.
31:30
From ever being allowed back into Japan. And
31:33
then having it lifted so that Inoue could beat
31:36
his ass. Yep. Yep. There's a lot of story here.
31:41
This fight is not going to be that good, but
31:43
I think it's a great one if she wants to go watch
31:46
one boxing match. It's... This is, I think, as
31:51
close to professional wrestling as boxing can
31:57
get. Yeah. There's just so much drama around
32:00
these two fighters and the promoters. And just
32:05
everything. Because she's going to ask, why are
32:08
they in Kyrgyzstan? What do you mean? Poki Kameda
32:11
is really working on, I don't, Kyrgyzstani? Like,
32:17
is it their own language? Yes, Kyrgyz. Okay.
32:22
I wasn't sure what it was called. He's really
32:26
been working on it, so it's going to be a Japanese
32:28
dude giving a speech in Kyrgyzstan. It's... Wonderful.
32:35
It's going to be fucking great. That's what dreams
32:38
are made of. If she is not even casually interested
32:43
in boxing, but she listens because she's my friend,
32:47
so this is going to be perfect for that, I think.
32:51
Right, like I said, the storyline is too good.
32:55
So it's you don't have to even really know how
32:59
the fight plays out. Like when I was a kid and
33:01
I watched wrestling a lot, I got to watch like
33:04
Monday Night Raw, Thursday Night Smackdown. And
33:08
then the storylines conclude on the pay -per
33:10
-views that happen on like Saturday or Sunday.
33:13
I never got to watch those. So I never saw how
33:16
the storylines concluded. Or who won. You had
33:18
to figure it out from context the next week.
33:21
Exactly. So this is what an instance where you
33:25
get to see how the storyline finishes in a way.
33:29
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I'm super excited
33:33
about that. Yeah, it's really fun. Oh man, speaking
33:39
of fun. Bare Knuckle Boxing signs Victor Ortiz
33:44
and John Molina. I'm a little bit more concerned
33:48
about Ortiz. Yeah. He's been out for a while.
33:54
He's had a rough go of it. Molina has a lot of
33:59
mileage on the clock, for sure. But, I don't
34:03
know. I feel like he retired much sooner. At
34:08
a better time, at least, than Ortiz did. So,
34:12
regardless. The Retirement League. Continues
34:16
to pad its roster. Yeah, I really don't like
34:22
bare knuckle boxing. I don't either. I don't
34:25
watch it at all. I just, it's kind of gross.
34:29
Quite. Oh, speaking of gross. Tommy the Hitman
34:37
Hearns is under guardianship and conservatorship.
34:44
Yeah, I think Tommy's been going really downhill
34:47
quickly. His health, yes. Yeah. Wasn't there...
34:51
They kind of said it wasn't real, but wasn't
34:55
there rumors he wandered away and was a little
34:58
lost? Like they were looking for him? I hadn't
35:01
heard of that. Maybe I have the wrong retired
35:06
boxer. You know how I am with names. Yeah. But
35:10
there was... Just let me Google it. While you're
35:19
looking, you know how there's those shitty prediction
35:24
markets where you can gamble on real life events
35:27
and stuff? I really don't like those. I don't
35:30
either. One way, you don't have to gamble on
35:34
Tommy Hearns' life. Because that's just fucking
35:36
disgusting. Man, and now I'm about to follow
35:41
it up with something that's also pretty scummy.
35:43
This is a good time. buy some autograph merch
35:46
okay so i i had the right the right guy but it's
35:53
been reported as false but last december there
35:57
was a social media like tommy hearns has gone
36:01
missing yada yada yada that's crazy i've never
36:05
heard of the the rumors was he's dementia had
36:12
gotten worse and he had wandered away from home
36:14
and nobody knew exactly where he was. But they
36:18
came out and said that that was not true. So
36:20
maybe I'm just spreading rumors. When was that?
36:23
December? Yeah, last December. Jeez. Kind of
36:29
makes you wonder, though. I mean, maybe being
36:33
under conservatorship is not the worst thing.
36:36
No. If his health is that bad. Right. As long
36:39
as it's good people taking care of them. And
36:42
it might not be. Not like a Britney Spears situation.
36:46
Yeah. Yeah. But get your autograph memorabilia
36:52
now because it's going to go up like at least
36:56
10 times in cost. Yeah. Well, if he's getting
37:00
that sick, he's not going to be making new autographs.
37:06
Just a very good friend of mine. He's a big time
37:10
Tommy Hearns fan. It's like his favorite fighter
37:12
ever. Not a bad choice. Every year, every other
37:17
year or something, I would get him a Tommy Hearns
37:19
autograph something. Like the baseball cards
37:23
that are of boxers or big 8x10 prints. I got
37:29
one that was Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns and another
37:34
one that was Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns.
37:37
That's crazy. Yeah. The one that was Marvin Hagler,
37:42
Tommy Hearns, was like $1 ,500. Yeah. Because
37:46
Marvin Hagler. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying buy
37:54
the stuff now so that you can flip it later.
37:56
I'm saying buy it now so you can have it for
37:59
yourself. Yeah, it's sad to see your heroes get
38:04
old. Yeah. Because how old is Tommy now? He must
38:10
be like my dad's age. 60s? 70s? 70s? 67. That's
38:17
too young to need conservatorship. It's too bad.
38:20
But with a lot of... With boxing mileage, though?
38:23
Yeah. His brain is probably like 90 -something.
38:26
Yeah, that's true. Man. Just... I don't know.
38:34
If you're the praying type. Pray for the Hearns
38:37
family. Moving to your boy, Katsuma Akitsugi
38:45
has been added to the Tenshin Asakawa Juan Francisco
38:49
Estrada undercard. I'm gonna have to buy a ticket
38:55
that Tenshin is headlining. And that annoys me.
38:59
You could leave before the main event. I'm not
39:03
gonna do that. It's Estrada. yeah but yeah no
39:08
i'm super excited akitsugi's been on the pro
39:11
box circuit for a while he's been living in america
39:14
a lot longer than i originally thought i looked
39:17
into him a little bit when they announced this
39:19
he's been trying to get his permanent residency
39:22
in the states so he hasn't been home for years
39:25
so Akatsuki was supposed to fight Lover. That
39:30
was pretty deep into talks. And I was super excited
39:33
about that. So I was a little bummed when it
39:36
got cancelled. We talked about it last week.
39:39
Yeah, it got cancelled for a good reason. Because
39:42
Provox went out of their way to make a deal with
39:45
Tekken so that Akatsuki could fight in Japan
39:49
and visit his family. According to the Boxing
39:52
Scene Podcast. That does sound like something
39:55
that they would do for him. Yeah, and I'm super
39:58
excited for them. And I'm super excited to see
40:02
them live. It's going to be great. And if Provox
40:05
can make some deals with Tekken, I think that'll
40:07
be big for them. Oh yeah, they can bring Japanese
40:12
fighters over, send their guys over to Japan.
40:16
Yeah, get the Provox name in front of the Japanese,
40:21
because it's free on YouTube here. Yeah, absolutely.
40:26
Yeah, and I don't know that that many Japanese
40:29
boxing fans know about Pro Box, because why would
40:31
they? Right. So I think this is going to work
40:35
out really well for everybody. I'm super excited
40:37
about this. That would be a good entry into the
40:42
Japanese market, just in general. Yeah, and like
40:46
you said, Tekken probably wants to send some
40:51
of their guys to America, get them in front of
40:53
an American audience. Yeah. That's always a big
40:56
problem. The problem that they're going to come
41:00
across, and it's just Americans being Americans,
41:05
like, if you send Japanese fighters over, you
41:08
better send a good interpreter. Otherwise, you
41:12
better be taking your boys to some classes for
41:14
English, because people get fucking annoyed hearing
41:17
a foreign language here. It's stupid. Yeah, well,
41:21
people are dicks. Yeah, it's stupid, but... There's...
41:26
I think most of the boxers that are really trying
41:29
to go big work on their English. You don't see
41:34
it because they don't want to do the interviews
41:36
in English because that must be fucking stressful,
41:39
trying to speak a second language in front of
41:41
a crowd. After a fight, too. Yeah. Like, Seiya
41:45
Satsumi... is really working on his english he
41:49
gave a really short speech but a speech in english
41:53
at the ring awards nice i don't know if you saw
41:56
it but and uh even before that when i met him
42:00
like i tried to speak japanese and fucked it
42:03
up because i was fangirling and he really tried
42:06
with his english that's really cool it was great
42:09
yeah yeah because he could have just like signed
42:12
my shit and left but right he spent like a whole
42:15
minute Trying to talk to me. It was really nice.
42:18
Anyways, I'm super excited to see Akatsuki. Death
42:21
by a thousand cuts. I don't know how you shorten
42:24
that nickname, but I want that to be his nickname.
42:27
The Japanese firecracker or whatever is fine,
42:31
I guess. What if it's just a thousand cuts? There
42:37
must be a cool name for that torture. Right?
42:42
Yeah, there has to be. Yeah. Or something. There
42:46
has to be like a. A short. Yeah. Way. Yeah. Last
42:51
bit. Oleksandr Usyk has outlined his last three
42:58
fights. Number one. Rico Verhoeven. Number two.
43:03
Nobody cares. Right. No. Number two. The winner
43:08
of Fabio Wardley versus Daniel Dubois. Not bad.
43:11
If it's Wardley. Nice. If it's Dubois, boo. But
43:16
you can't say you're fighting Wardley if Dubois
43:19
beats him. Yes, that's true. And then the Fury
43:23
Trilogy. I don't want to see that at all. I would
43:29
swap Fury Trilogy with Wilder if he beats Chisora.
43:39
Same way with, like, if Dubois beats Wardley,
43:43
I would drop that from my next fights list. I
43:48
would like to see his last fight be against somebody
43:51
younger. Caballel? Huh? Yeah. Like, just somebody
43:57
in the next generation and do a passing of the
44:01
torch. Because Usyk Fury, nobody gives a shit
44:06
now. You don't need a trilogy for that. I think
44:10
it's just money. I know it's just money, but
44:13
I don't care. Usyk's made so much fucking money.
44:19
Yeah. I did see Usyk's English getting better
44:24
has made his funny personality come out much
44:29
easier. Because he's always been funny. But I
44:33
saw he's like, I don't want to fight a Tauma.
44:35
I don't want to break his spirit. He's a young
44:40
guy. I don't want to ruin him. Yeah, that was
44:43
the way that I had heard it, was I don't want
44:46
to ruin him. Damn, dude. That's strong words,
44:52
but what interests me is that all of this I don't
44:57
want to break him type of shit, Caballel does
45:01
not seem to be in the same conversation. No.
45:06
To me, it's odd. Yeah, I haven't heard Usyk say
45:11
his name at all. I would drop. Because Rico Verhoeven...
45:19
It's for the title. God. Gross. If it wasn't
45:25
for the title, if it was some exhibition, whatever.
45:28
Go get your money. This is bullshit. But you
45:33
get to have your bullshit. Then you have to fight
45:37
Caballel. That's the mandate. I don't mind the
45:42
Wardley Dubois winner. Whatever. Fine. Yeah,
45:46
fine. That's what I've... But Caballel needs
45:50
his shot. He's earned his shot. Yeah, he's been
45:55
waiting for fucking ever. Fury Trilogy, as washed
45:59
as he is, I might... This is like a personal
46:04
bias gonna be on very clear display. As washed
46:08
as he is, even if Wilder lost to Chizora, I would
46:11
rather see Usyk fight Wilder than fight the trilogy
46:15
with Fury. Yeah. But I don't really want to see
46:21
either of those fights. If I had to pick. Yeah,
46:24
if I had to pick between those two, I would pick
46:27
Wilder. But I don't want those two to be the
46:31
conversation. No. Wardley. Itauma. Kabayel, school
46:39
the next generation of heavyweights and then
46:42
drop the belts and say, have fun, boys. Your
46:46
daddy's gonna be over here. Yeah, exactly. But
46:51
beating Fury again does nothing. No. Beating
46:55
Dubois again does nothing for me either. Honestly,
46:59
after he said these three fights... I kind of
47:03
hope Rico catches him. He's not going to win,
47:06
but I hope he knocks Usyk on his ass once. It's
47:11
not going to happen. Entirely wishful thinking.
47:14
But it would be amazing. What, is he going to
47:18
get... Rico's going to catch Usyk with a body
47:21
shot that's going to get ruled a low blow instead?
47:25
Maybe. I just wanted to throw that one back in
47:31
there. But yeah, that's all we got on the news,
47:34
though. Unless something else came up. I don't
47:41
think so. No. Yeah, I'm not. I can't think of
47:45
anything. You've been pretty on the news. I do
47:48
my best. All right. Let me put some info in here.
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slash mwb. Alright. Here we go on the recaps.
50:01
It's pretty light. Eye of the Tiger on DAZN.
50:05
This one was in Montreal. There were four fights
50:10
that I was tracking here. Steve Claggett gets
50:14
a stoppage in two over, like, who gives a shit?
50:18
21 -12 -2. Alejandro Frias. John Orobio gets
50:26
a stoppage in five. Lennar Perez gets a UD win
50:32
over Isaac Chalemba. I was saying on social media,
50:40
I had said, I posed it as an open question. Should
50:45
we be maybe dialing back our expectations of
50:49
Perez? He dominated every round. There's no question
50:53
that he swept it. But this is still Isaac Chalemba.
50:57
This is the type of dude you should be getting
50:59
out. Yeah. I mean, Chalemba has a chin. Better
51:05
in tactics, too. Yeah. But it's not like he can't
51:10
be knocked out. I don't know. Aya the Tiger,
51:17
they're always mismatches. You can't tell shit
51:20
about their fighters. like Perez looks impressive
51:26
like he's a cruiserweight he's tall he's really
51:29
muscular so like he looks the part but like Isaac
51:35
Chalemba dude you should be mopping the floor
51:38
with this guy if you are what Eye of the Tiger
51:42
says you are anyway but Eye of the Tiger never
51:46
challenges their fighters so you can't tell like
51:50
yeah you're right you don't know what somebody's
51:53
made of until they have to show you. Because
51:57
if he was dominating the entire fight, maybe
52:01
he just didn't want to take any chances getting
52:03
hit with a big one. You know? Yeah. Which is
52:09
fair. It's cruiserweight. Anybody can knock you
52:13
out. Chalemba, though? He wasn't even really
52:17
that much of a power threat at 175. That was
52:21
some years ago. Now he's at 200? I don't know.
52:25
15 fights in. We know how boxing records tend
52:31
to be a little bit padded when you're at the
52:33
beginning stages of your career. So this is a
52:36
step up -ish? Half step up to a veteran? I mean,
52:45
it's a name I recognize, which is the first one
52:48
on his box rec I recognize. Yeah, I'm trying
52:52
to, like, throw my bone here. Like, what good
52:55
can we take away from this? Because, like you
52:58
said, Eye of the Tiger, they just are allergic
53:01
to challenging their fighters. I never tell anyone
53:07
to watch Eye of the Tiger cards. And people give
53:11
me shit. They're like, you're Canadian, and they're
53:13
Canadian, and you should... I'm like, but they
53:15
suck. I guess if you want to watch knockouts,
53:19
because there's always knockouts on Eye of the
53:21
Tiger cards. Of the four that we were tracking,
53:23
three were knockouts. Yeah. But they're one -sided
53:27
mismatches. Oh, man. Speaking of one -sided mismatches,
53:34
Stephen Butler knocks out Ramadan Husseini in
53:40
the second. I think I have a post, a video clip
53:44
of that up on Twitter. That was where I was trying
53:48
to get people to shit on Lennar Perez with me.
53:52
Nice. But that's it for that card. Moving to
53:59
Saturday, March 7th, Pro Box. This wasn't a Pro
54:03
Box proper card. This was, well, it was another
54:07
card that got picked up by Pro Box. I'm just
54:09
really, really on the ball today. Two fights
54:14
that I kept track of. Angel Ureña gets the UD
54:19
over Roy Casanova. I only really kept track because
54:24
Casanova. But it was a really fun fight. Ureña,
54:28
I think he got cut. And Casanova was really going
54:33
for it. Ended up scoring a late knockdown. And
54:40
Haciel Amador. beats Pedro Delgado in the main
54:44
event. I think that was for a regional, WBA regional
54:49
title. And then the Ureña, I think, was a WBC
54:55
regional title. This was the card in Mexico,
55:00
right? Correct. Yeah. It was fine. It was Mexican
55:06
sluggers doing what they did. It was fun, but
55:11
I didn't really recognize any names or anything.
55:15
And the professionalism continues. Zufa Boxing
55:24
4 at the Meta Apex in Las Vegas. Moving up the
55:31
bill. The first ever majority draw in Zufa history.
55:37
We know how prestigious that designation is.
55:41
And then they had another majority draw. So,
55:44
two for one special. Vlad Panin stops Shannard
55:50
Bunch in the ninth. Not bad. Not bad of a fight.
55:55
It was, as it went down the stretch, they kept,
55:59
they started to bring up and continue to refer
56:03
a lot to Shannard Bunch's personal life difficulties.
56:07
I think they said his father was murdered not
56:11
that long ago. That's crazy. Yeah. What are you
56:17
doing in the ring right now, bro? That is way
56:22
more important. But, I mean, you gotta make money
56:27
somehow. I guess. Moving up. Ricardo Salas stops
56:34
Jesus Saracha. Ha, jokes. Saracho is his name.
56:41
They said his name wrong every time on the broadcast.
56:44
Every single time. He is not Tabasco sauce. Because,
56:51
like the Zufa, it's Zufa promotions or whatever.
56:58
But it's Max Kellerman, Joe Tessitore, and Andre
57:02
Ward. Andre, I'll give you a pass. The other
57:05
two, I don't want to hear anybody ever say a
57:08
fucking thing to me about mispronouncing names
57:10
ever again. That's Max Kellerman and Joe Tessitore.
57:17
Yeah, like, Andre Ward is the boxer, so he gets
57:24
a pass at being a little less professional with
57:26
names and stuff. Yeah. But those other two, it's
57:29
their fucking job to say people's names right.
57:33
Like, you have fighter meetings where you talk
57:36
about this stuff. It's not a hard name. Sriracha.
57:41
Yeah. Not hard. Like, it's not like one of those
57:45
Czech names. The Thai names are fucking ridiculous
57:48
sometimes. Yeah. Like, Sriracha is not a hard
57:53
name to say. Yeah. Also, I know this is not the
57:58
point of our podcast. He has a cool ass tattoo.
58:02
I really like his Aztec statue tattoo on his
58:07
chest. Let's have a look. I thought it was super
58:13
well done. Ricardo Salas was 22 -2 -2. So isn't
58:19
that nice? But yeah, Sriracha has a badass tattoo.
58:29
I really like it. It's very clean. Microsoft,
58:42
if I ever find out who your mother is... There
58:50
are a few things that just really fucking upset
58:57
me. One of them is when my computer doesn't do
59:00
the things I tell it to do. Yeah. I paid a very
59:05
good amount of money to make sure that it never
59:07
even thinks. twice about anything that I wanted
59:13
to do. That is really dope. It's Quetzalcoatl.
59:21
It's like the creator god of the Aztec. Yeah,
59:25
yeah, yeah. I wasn't 100 % sure if that's who
59:29
it was. And I know Damel would give me shit in
59:32
the chat if I got it wrong. But yeah. So that
59:38
was the co -main. In the main event, IBF Cruiserweight
59:46
Champion, question mark, Jai Obataya, takes Brandon
59:51
Glanton the distance to claim the inaugural Zufa
59:57
Cruiserweight title. Man, if I had my choice,
1:00:01
IBF, Zufa. What title do I want? Just fuck me,
1:00:11
Zufa, all the way. I just cannot think of anything
1:00:15
more storied with the history, the prestige.
1:00:22
And it's such a pretty belt, too. It's so good
1:00:25
looking. That's like a mantelpiece right there.
1:00:28
Oh, my God. I have seen Burger King toys that
1:00:31
look more appealing than that. It looks like
1:00:34
those shitty knockoff WWE belts that are like
1:00:38
WWN at Walmart. Yeah, you're right. The guys
1:00:50
in the chat just kept putting up Casio watches.
1:00:55
Yeah. That's what it looks like. It is the ugliest
1:01:00
fucking thing I've ever seen. So, the drama behind
1:01:08
this one, if you haven't heard, is the IBF was
1:01:14
going to sanction this fight. They had already
1:01:16
given it, given Obataya and Zufa. They gave it
1:01:21
their blessing. And then, throughout the promotion,
1:01:26
they made the IBF title look... secondary. They
1:01:34
had it off to the side, cut out of pictures.
1:01:37
They never talked about it. They never mentioned
1:01:39
it by name. They just acted like it didn't exist.
1:01:42
It was just this red thing that Jai carries around
1:01:46
with him for some reason, like his safety blankie
1:01:48
or something. So, IBF withdrew their sanctioning
1:01:54
of the fight. The day before the fight, which
1:01:57
is also pretty bullshit. Yes. So Dana White and
1:02:05
the Zufa team have been saying that they want
1:02:09
to take the IBF to court because it's a concerted
1:02:14
effort of the boxing industry to punish Jai Opataya
1:02:19
for signing with Zufa and punishing Zufa. And
1:02:24
so my only reaction to that was, and this is
1:02:29
me kind of making up. what they say but for the
1:02:32
sake of the point zufa comes into the boxing
1:02:37
world and says hi we're zufa fuck all of you
1:02:43
fuck your belts fuck your weight classes fuck
1:02:46
your sanctioning bodies fuck your champions fuck
1:02:49
your wbc president fuck all of you and then a
1:02:54
few months later Why doesn't anyone want to work
1:02:57
with us? Quit fucking crying. You either want
1:03:01
to be a disruptor or you want to shut the fuck
1:03:04
up and play ball. The whole situation is fucking
1:03:09
stupid. It's grown men having pissing contests.
1:03:13
And I do feel bad for Jai. Because he clearly
1:03:19
believed them when they said he could keep his
1:03:22
belt and fight for the other ones. And I don't
1:03:25
think Jaio Pattaya is a very smart man. I was
1:03:28
going to say, I think he's a little bit of an
1:03:30
airhead. Yeah. Like, maybe not smart is too harsh
1:03:36
on him, but I don't think he pays attention to
1:03:39
any of this. I don't think he knows. about the
1:03:43
controversies and stuff. I don't think he understood
1:03:46
that this might be a problem before he signed.
1:03:49
I think his managers lied to him and told him
1:03:51
it was all figured out and he just believed them.
1:03:54
He trusted them. Yeah. And I just don't think
1:04:00
Jai did his due diligence with this signing.
1:04:06
I think he just believed a bunch of bullshit
1:04:08
from people he shouldn't have believed. And I
1:04:11
do feel bad for him. His job is to go box and
1:04:15
whatever. But it's so fucking stupid. And that
1:04:20
post -fight interview, they didn't talk to each
1:04:27
other at all. Max Kellerman came out and gave
1:04:30
a little speech about Zufa and how the other
1:04:32
belts don't matter and how Jai is now the undisputed
1:04:36
Zufa champion. And Jai gave a speech about how
1:04:39
he wants to unify the titles. Yeah, getting all
1:04:44
four is his goal. He has no intention of moving
1:04:49
up to heavyweight until he accomplishes that.
1:04:52
He made that extremely clear. Yeah, and I don't
1:04:56
think his Zufa contract is going to allow that.
1:05:01
He's just going to keep defending the Zufa cruiserweight
1:05:04
title? Knocking over cans like he has been for
1:05:08
the last five years? His career... Man. I base...
1:05:20
I take a lot of what Jacob told us about the
1:05:24
Australian scene. I take that as pretty much
1:05:28
his gospel. I trust his word, right? I trust
1:05:32
what he told us. Yeah, and I think he's pretty
1:05:35
plugged into the Australian boxing. Exactly.
1:05:39
I trust him as a source. So for him to tell us
1:05:43
about how Jai was getting screwed, Tasman doesn't
1:05:47
take care of their people. So, of course, Jai's
1:05:52
going to try to make a move into America where
1:05:55
he can make bigger paychecks. And that was the
1:05:59
first person that was knocking on his door was
1:06:02
Zufa. Yeah, I just think Jai's been swindled.
1:06:06
Yeah, I agree completely. I don't think it's
1:06:11
entirely his fault. Like, his job is to box.
1:06:14
But I do think he's pretty naive just believing
1:06:17
everything that everyone says and clearly not
1:06:21
even reading the, like, boxing news around him.
1:06:26
He trusted his manager. Yeah, he seems... In
1:06:31
horse racing, they wear blinders if the horse
1:06:34
gets easily distracted. Jai has blinders on.
1:06:38
And he has no idea what the fuck's happening
1:06:40
outside his little window of training. And I
1:06:44
do feel kind of bad for him, but it's also would
1:06:49
have been very easy to avoid. Josh had a bit,
1:06:57
he had less to say on like the, you kind of dug
1:07:02
your own grave here with the title situation.
1:07:04
And it was more about like, even if you do, Even
1:07:08
if you are the number one cruiserweight ever
1:07:12
right now, or active cruiserweight, why the fuck
1:07:17
are you going the distance with Brandon Glanton?
1:07:20
Yeah, well, I guess we should talk about the
1:07:23
actual fight as well. Fuck that referee. Fuck
1:07:28
everything about that referee. He wanted to be
1:07:31
the main character that night. It was ridiculous.
1:07:35
Are you looking at each other's arms? Fucking
1:07:37
break. Yeah. Like, Glanton needed to be on the
1:07:42
inside. And anytime he got there, if anyone's
1:07:47
hand got caught for a second, the ref broke him.
1:07:50
And he took points from each of them for holding.
1:07:53
Yeah, he did. It was fucking ridiculous. Yeah,
1:07:58
that guy's not going to get a callback from Zufa.
1:08:01
i don't know he might maybe i mean that kind
1:08:04
of that kind of felt like protecting jai it was
1:08:07
because like glanton was the one that was getting
1:08:10
all the the heart quote -unquote hard warnings
1:08:12
so it i'm actually surprised that jai got a point
1:08:16
docked i really am i mean the holding was with
1:08:22
all but with all the warnings jai had gotten
1:08:25
he had to take a point if you're gonna take one
1:08:28
from glanton Well, and he'd already taken two
1:08:31
from Glanton at that point. One was for holding.
1:08:35
What was the other one? I think low blows. I
1:08:37
think you're right. Low blows. Yeah. He landed
1:08:43
a couple low blows, yes. But I didn't think it
1:08:45
warranted a point. Yeah, if Hirooka is not going
1:08:50
to get a point docked. Wait, did he get a point
1:08:53
docked? I don't remember. He did after that really
1:08:56
badly. He did get a point docked. I was thinking
1:08:59
of... I don't know what I was thinking of. My
1:09:02
brain is mush. Yeah, Hiroko got a point docked.
1:09:06
You're right. But the fight itself was pretty
1:09:11
boring. It was underwhelming. And Jai has shit
1:09:16
footwork. Like, I hadn't noticed how bad it was
1:09:20
because I don't really watch his fights closely
1:09:22
ever. But, like, Glanton was cutting off the
1:09:26
ring, and Glanton's not a smooth operator by
1:09:30
any sense. Glanton was a college, a D1 college
1:09:36
defensive end. So he's got feet. Maybe not boxing
1:09:42
feet, but... I was gonna say, for boxing, it's
1:09:46
not like he's got... It's fine. He's not Bam
1:09:49
or Lomachenko. He's not pulling sweet moves.
1:09:53
He's not doing crazy pivots. He's not, like,
1:09:56
he's walking basically in a straight line and
1:10:00
sidestepping, and he was able to stop Jai from
1:10:03
escaping. Yeah, I think something else Josh had
1:10:10
pointed out was that when Opataya, when he went,
1:10:15
he went down. It wasn't knockdowns, but he fell
1:10:19
over because he tripped over his own feet. Yeah,
1:10:23
Jai was crossing himself up trying to get away
1:10:25
from Glanton. If you are the number one and as
1:10:31
good as people say, you should be able to do
1:10:35
that without falling. Not crossing your feet
1:10:39
is like Boxing 101. That was like... The first
1:10:43
thing they worked on in karate classes. When
1:10:46
I was a kid. Like. Yeah when we did. Like basic
1:10:53
hand to hand. Stuff in the military. Like in
1:10:56
boot camp. Where you just do like the white belt.
1:10:59
Is the equivalent. That you would understand.
1:11:02
So when you're doing white belt stuff. It's like
1:11:04
you don't cross your feet. Don't put your thumbs
1:11:07
into your fucking fist. Yeah like. Baby stuff.
1:11:13
Every combat sport, the first thing is don't
1:11:15
let your feet get in a straight line even. Yeah.
1:11:21
Anyway, Jai was not impressive to me at this
1:11:25
fight. Maybe we should cut him some slack because
1:11:33
he was being told that he was getting stripped
1:11:35
and stuff. And it was probably really bothering
1:11:37
him because that's clearly important to him.
1:11:40
It is clearly important to him. Yes. I've never
1:11:43
been super impressed with Jai. He's got power,
1:11:46
but he's been fighting bums. Something that the
1:11:52
broadcast pointed out a lot, that, to me, it
1:11:58
wasn't the flex that they think it is, that they
1:12:01
thought it was, was when they brought up fighting
1:12:04
Myrus Bredis with a broken jaw. and it's like
1:12:10
why the fuck is old man breed is catching you
1:12:12
like that right exactly how is a 40 year old
1:12:17
man breaking your jaw when you're like a 20 something
1:12:21
fucking stud how is this happening i mean if
1:12:25
jai's whole thing was i'm a pressure fighter
1:12:29
and i get in the mix and i tough it out like
1:12:32
somebody like say a satsumi Then it's a bit of
1:12:38
a break, right? Like his whole thing is heart
1:12:41
and toughness. But Jai's whole thing is supposed
1:12:44
to be like power and they're trying to sell him
1:12:48
as kind of finesse. Yeah. Finesse with power
1:12:54
hands behind it. Yeah. And if that's your thing,
1:12:59
you shouldn't be getting caught like that. But
1:13:01
I guess the other comparison kind of is Bam.
1:13:04
Bam got caught. He got a broken jaw as well.
1:13:07
Absolutely. So it shows his toughness. But yeah.
1:13:14
I don't know. I was not very impressed. And Brandon
1:13:21
Glanton is made of fucking cement. Like that
1:13:25
dude took some hard shots. I think he won the
1:13:29
story of the night. He didn't really take a step
1:13:32
back even. He wasn't bothered by Opetai's power.
1:13:40
He was not concerned with Opetai's supposed footwork.
1:13:46
He was constantly cutting off the ring, keeping
1:13:51
Opetai in front of him. He took some good shots,
1:13:55
and he still kept pressing forward. I feel Brandon
1:14:00
Glanton won the story of the night. I think he's
1:14:02
going to get a call from... whoever Zerto Benavidez
1:14:07
winner or loser, even he's going to get a call
1:14:11
from one of them. I hope so. Like, it's not that
1:14:15
I don't want to see Jai get his belts, but I
1:14:19
don't know. The whole Zufa thing was a misstep.
1:14:24
Quite. I think it was being too trusting. He,
1:14:28
I think he expected, he had been with Tasman
1:14:31
for a while. So he expected, he trusted that
1:14:36
they had his best interests in mind and that
1:14:40
they knew his goal was undisputed. The four belt
1:14:44
undisputed. They knew that's what he wanted.
1:14:47
So when they said, yeah, that's going to be available
1:14:50
to you, he trusted them. Yeah. But as I said
1:14:57
on B -Sides, Jai, buddy. If you need somebody
1:15:02
to read your shit, you let me know. I will sit
1:15:07
down and fucking read every goddamn word of the
1:15:10
contract for you. Because this Zufa shit, this
1:15:16
ain't it. They are not going to get you to your
1:15:20
goals. I think a lot... The IVF pulled their
1:15:26
sanctioning partly because of wording in their...
1:15:30
whatever mandate, is that the right word? Where
1:15:34
they can pull sanctioning if you're fighting
1:15:38
with a different promotion? I can't remember
1:15:46
the wording. But basically, if you're fighting
1:15:49
for Mickey Mouse belts, we can unsanction the
1:15:52
fight. And they declared Zufa Mickey Mouse belt.
1:15:59
They're not wrong. No, but that was their reasoning,
1:16:05
and if it goes to court, that'll be what they
1:16:09
stand by. But the IBF almost never goes to court.
1:16:12
I think they're just going to pansy out. Ever
1:16:19
since the IBF got caught for corruption and shit,
1:16:22
I don't think they've been to court since. Well,
1:16:25
they play it hard. By their rules. Like, verbatim.
1:16:31
Yeah. If you can't fucking read them, then that's
1:16:34
your problem, because we are going by the text.
1:16:38
Yeah. But, like, I think Jai needed to read all
1:16:42
of the belt's rules as well as his contract.
1:16:47
Like, I'm sure WBC would be willing to play ball
1:16:52
with Zufa, because I don't give a shit as long
1:16:55
as I get paid. Yeah. But, yeah. Man, this sucks
1:17:01
for... Because Zordo... That was one of the things
1:17:08
that I forgot to mention in the news. Zordo Benavidez.
1:17:14
Zordo's the WBA, WBO cruiserweight champ. Yeah.
1:17:19
WBC is trying to insert themselves in with their
1:17:23
commemorative belt. And it's like, what are...
1:17:28
So the other two are saying, like, what the fuck
1:17:31
are you doing? You have no stake in the game
1:17:34
here. You have your champion over there with
1:17:37
Norair Makalian. Go promote him or whatever.
1:17:45
Yeah. I don't know. Cruiserweight's in a weird
1:17:50
spot right now. Yeah. Anything more for our recaps?
1:17:59
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bitch. All right. Upcoming stuff. It's... I don't
1:21:02
know. Is this a light weekend? Starting with
1:21:07
Friday, March 20th. Misfits Pro. In Belfast.
1:21:15
The fuck is this? I don't know who these people
1:21:18
are. Co -promoted by Conlon Boxing, if that helps.
1:21:23
Mickey Conlon is headlining against Kevin Walsh.
1:21:30
Mickey Conlon doesn't need to be fighting anymore.
1:21:35
He should be promoting. He was doing pretty good
1:21:38
with that. Yeah. Him, his brother, his father.
1:21:44
Do I recognize the co -main? No, this is a different
1:21:46
Kieran. Yeah, not the same Kieran. I think Kieran
1:21:50
Connelly is who you're thinking of. I might be,
1:21:54
yeah. Moving on. Saturday, March 21st. Starting
1:21:57
off with the Brit Slop Fans Delight Matchroom
1:22:04
at the Copper Box. Who do I... Recognize Emmanuel
1:22:13
Buttigieg. I know his name. Giorgio Visioli,
1:22:17
I know that name. Jimmy Saines, I know that name.
1:22:21
And in the main event, George Ladard versus Tyler
1:22:24
Denny. I know Ladard. Yes, and I know Tyler Denny
1:22:31
as well. I look at his picture. No, I don't think
1:22:36
I know him. I mean, it's Brit Slop. It'll be
1:22:40
what it is. Lynn is probably losing her shit
1:22:45
over this one. She loves Lenard. She does. Moving
1:22:50
on to Probox TV in San Bernardino, California.
1:22:57
Let's... I only got two on this one. Joshua Anton
1:23:03
versus Kudratilo Abdukakarov. It's a ten round.
1:23:09
154 fight, and in the main event, Lester Martinez,
1:23:14
Emmanuel Aleem, interim WBC super middleweight
1:23:18
title. I'm super excited to see Lester again.
1:23:23
Me too. I don't know much about Aleem, but I'm
1:23:31
hoping Lester can get a nice, convincing win.
1:23:37
Because I don't think it's going to be an easy
1:23:39
fight. I think Lester, especially if he's still
1:23:45
with Bomek, I think he's going to... Maybe the
1:23:50
first few rounds might be a little tough, but
1:23:53
I think he'll be able to overcome it. I think
1:23:56
Lester is... Lester, to me, is the WBC champion.
1:24:02
I think he would have beaten... Mbili in a rematch.
1:24:07
I do as well. And they elevated Mbili prematurely.
1:24:14
Lester Martinez, he has a lot. If he doesn't
1:24:18
have high boxing IQ in himself, he is highly
1:24:24
coachable. Which is sometimes better. It can
1:24:29
be, yes. So with Bomek in your corner, that's...
1:24:33
It's like Robert Garcia. You get the buff. Yeah,
1:24:37
yeah. I really think Lester Martinez is the goods.
1:24:42
Yeah, I agree. And I want to see him do well.
1:24:45
I've been watching interviews with him and stuff,
1:24:47
and he just seems like a really happy guy. He's
1:24:52
always just like, I'm so excited to be here.
1:24:55
I can't believe my dream is coming true. I'm
1:24:56
just happy to be here, everybody. Yeah, yeah.
1:24:59
Oh, are there snacks? Who brought snacks? I brought
1:25:02
snacks. I'm happy to be here. Exactly. And it
1:25:07
would be really cool for him to become the first
1:25:11
Guatemalan world champion. I think that would
1:25:14
be amazing. First Guatemalan? Yeah. I double
1:25:23
checked it after last time. He would be the first
1:25:25
Guatemalan world champion. Excellent. And he
1:25:31
seems like a nice guy who deserves it. I would
1:25:34
be sad if Lester loses. I would be too, because
1:25:37
he seems like such a, like a, just genuinely
1:25:40
good person. Yeah, just happy. Yes. I like happy
1:25:46
people. He's grateful. Yeah. Last bit. Matchroom
1:25:53
on DAZN at the Caribe Royale in Orlando. Florida.
1:26:00
There are some TBAs still on here. As I have
1:26:07
been saying, I am very professional. Hold on
1:26:12
a second. Let me make sure that these are not
1:26:14
still TBAs. Entrevious Ingram. Just what an excellent
1:26:20
name. Excellent. Moving up. Tara Moana is facing
1:26:26
Curtis Harper. Is that the dude that walked out
1:26:28
on FAA Dragba? Curtis Harper? I don't think so.
1:26:33
Maybe. He is. Disqualified in the first. That's
1:26:37
him. Nice. Tara Moana. Curtis, please walk out
1:26:43
again. He fucked that up so bad because they
1:26:49
hadn't paid him. So if he hadn't have done the
1:26:52
ring walk. He was free and clear, but he ring
1:26:55
-walked and stepped into the ring, so then he
1:26:58
was in breach of contract. Well, make sure that
1:27:02
you do the ring -walk and don't get in the ring
1:27:04
this time, Curtis. Let's see. Like I said, I
1:27:11
am professional. Yoannis Taez is no longer on
1:27:17
this card because he's got moved to the Fundora
1:27:21
Thurman. The week after. Omari Jones is facing
1:27:29
Christian Gomez. I don't know who that is, but
1:27:32
Omari Jones is going on his sixth fight facing
1:27:35
a 23 -6 -1 veteran. So I think Eddie believes
1:27:40
in what he's got. Yeah, I don't recognize Christian
1:27:44
Gomez. And in the main event... The rescheduled
1:27:50
fight. Carlos Adamas, the WBC middleweight champion,
1:27:54
is facing Austin Williams. I learned... Well,
1:28:00
I don't know if it's confirmed. But people are
1:28:04
still calling him Tiger. And I don't like it.
1:28:06
No. No. He is Ammo. Ammo is such a better nickname.
1:28:10
He will always be Ammo to me. I'm not going to
1:28:15
let this go. I'm going to find a way to contact...
1:28:18
austin williams and let him know dude ammo way
1:28:21
cooler um it is way and you are a cool fucking
1:28:25
dude so cut the tiger shit don't be sewing on
1:28:30
tiger tails to your fucking trunks while you
1:28:32
train bro that's like furry shit yeah that's
1:28:37
not great don't be doing that dude you're cooler
1:28:40
than that all right so we are heading into Lester
1:28:47
Martinez and then Carlos Adames versus Emma Williams.
1:28:55
Parting words. Other than Elon Musk not being
1:28:59
cool enough to hang out with pedophiles. Parting
1:29:05
words. I need to figure out what Guatemalan food
1:29:08
is so I can have Guatemalan food for the Lester
1:29:11
Martinez fight. They do tamales as well. They
1:29:16
make theirs differently, though. They do banana
1:29:18
leaves instead of corn husks. I've never had
1:29:21
tamales, to be honest. Oh, shit, dog. We gotta
1:29:25
get you sorted out. I know. But yeah, I'm gonna
1:29:29
figure out what Guatemalan food is and I'm gonna
1:29:31
make some for the Lester Martinez fight. That
1:29:34
is how you celebrate. Fuck, being busy sucks.
1:29:38
I'm trying to also get the goddamn video game
1:29:41
podcast running again. I was thinking of doing
1:29:44
an anime. video game sort of hybrid okay so that
1:29:50
maybe you could poke in for a little bit yeah
1:29:52
yeah say stuff about shows you're watching um
1:29:56
i watch a shit ton of anime i could definitely
1:29:58
do that yeah take that that's parting words you
1:30:02
want to be a you want a podcast about some shit
1:30:04
i got you got you covered well boxing before
1:30:10
dark i would say That it is, but it's not. I'm
1:30:14
just going to say it because it's the outro.
1:30:17
My batteries are getting low. And it is getting
1:30:21
dark. It's got still blondes. Goddamn. All right.
1:30:28
We are out of here. Bye. Bye.