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JD Vance Joins Live at CPAC-Wuhan virus, Politicized AG & Blue-Collar GOP · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict or Senator Tech Chris ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with you and our guest Jenny Events live from See
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  Speaker 1: Back Go. This is gonna be fun for everyone listening
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  Speaker 1: to the show. Later they have a you guys have
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  Speaker 1: a vote YEP today and you both have to go back.
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  Speaker 1: We decided we're gonna make this work. We'll have jd
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  Speaker 1: On with us as well. Senator let's just talk about like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have really good jobs. But I've learned you
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  Speaker 1: guys have no idea what your schedule is. How is
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  Speaker 1: that possible? In government? It's actually you got the joke,
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  Speaker 1: all right. I like that. It is a bizarre thing.
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  Speaker 1: In the Senate. You have utterly no control over your schedule.
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  Speaker 1: The Senate majority leader decides when to call a vote,
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  Speaker 1: and look, Chuck Schumer is really bad at it. So
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  Speaker 1: you have literally no idea what's happening. He'll come in,
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  Speaker 1: decide to have a vote, maybe not decide to have
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  Speaker 1: a vote. So on Thursday nights typically we fly into
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  Speaker 1: DC Monday mornings, we fly home thurday nights, but we
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we're home or not, so I would
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  Speaker 1: call home. I remember, you know, one of my girls
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  Speaker 1: were little. I'd call home and and they'd say, well, Daddy,
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  Speaker 1: are you going to be home tonight? And I'd say,
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. And actually Caroline referred to Mitch
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  Speaker 1: McConnell for years as that mean men, because she would say,
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  Speaker 1: she'd ask, Daddy, are you coming home? And I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: it depends on when Mitch calls the vote. She said,
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  Speaker 1: is that mean man gonna let you come home tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Which I told Mitch that. Into his credit, he last
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  Speaker 1: pretty hard. He thinks that's that's funny. But is that
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  Speaker 1: not a bizarre aspect of this job? It really is.
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  Speaker 1: And so my version of this is, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: I first got sworn in early January, and I would
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  Speaker 1: go home and do a lot of radio interviews with people,
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  Speaker 1: and they'd say, what's what's the most interesting part of
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  Speaker 1: the job. What's the thing you didn't expect? I talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about the schedule, and I think they
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  Speaker 1: wanted me to have some some brilliant policy solution or idea,
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  Speaker 1: And what I always just sort of blurn it out,
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  Speaker 1: almost accidentally, was these guys don't work very hard, right,
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  Speaker 1: So the very first day we're sworn in, were then
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  Speaker 1: sent on a three week recess, and that really frustrated
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  Speaker 1: me because you know, I'm a new senator. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to work. I want to work with my
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  Speaker 1: good friend Ted here. And then I kind of realized, actually,
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats not working very hard for the next two
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  Speaker 1: years is maybe not the worst thing in the world.
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  Speaker 1: So Mary, that's that's an accurate, accurate statement there. Every
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  Speaker 1: day the Schumer Senate is not in session as a day,
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  Speaker 1: they're not destroying America, that's right. So you're saying more
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  Speaker 1: three vacations and sword are needed. Basically, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get into policy, and JD. You're new
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  Speaker 1: to the Senate. You're in the minority now, not the majority,
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  Speaker 1: and that's obviously coming with interesting things. But what we
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  Speaker 1: have seen come out is the issue of COVID and
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  Speaker 1: the media getting it wrong and having to admit they
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  Speaker 1: got it wrong. On the Wuhan Lab Institute, on the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we weren't crazy, and on this podcast three
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  Speaker 1: years ago we said, you said, Center, this is pretty
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  Speaker 1: clear from doubt that we have coming in. There's a
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  Speaker 1: very good chance this is we're being lied to by China. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and let's reflect for a second. So three years ago
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  Speaker 1: this podcast was here at Spack on the stage, and
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  Speaker 1: three years ago, thank god we're finally allowed to gather
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  Speaker 1: again by our nation's capital. Yeah yeah, you look at
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  Speaker 1: the idiots who had shut the country down and listen.
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  Speaker 1: Sepack has an interesting mark to my mind as of
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  Speaker 1: really the beginning of the pandemic. Because we did the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: it did verdict and here at Spack, I flew home
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  Speaker 1: and actually I had a campaign fundraiser at an Eagles concert,
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  Speaker 1: which and I love the Eagles. I will confess that
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  Speaker 1: was my idea. It's like, all right, if you got
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  Speaker 1: to have people right checks to the campaign, let's at
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  Speaker 1: least go to a cool concert enjoy it. And so
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  Speaker 1: we're sitting there Saturday, early evening and I get a
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  Speaker 1: phone call from match Lap and Matt's like, yeah, Ted,
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  Speaker 1: I need to tell you so. So a good friend
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  Speaker 1: of ours who was at CEPEC with you has this
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  Speaker 1: thing called COVID and yeah, you guys were piddling around
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  Speaker 1: and this is kind of a problem. I'm like, oh really,
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  Speaker 1: And so I ended up quarantining for two weeks as
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  Speaker 1: a result of Matt's call. Thank you, But I will
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  Speaker 1: tell you the worst part was not that it was
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  Speaker 1: Heidi coming down the stairs dressed to the nine. She
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  Speaker 1: was ready to go to the Eagles concerts, and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I love that we have a suity audience because
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't hear that in the video on the
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  Speaker 1: audio of this, all the ladies are in the audience here. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: She comes down ready to go, and I'm like, okay, sweetheart,
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  Speaker 1: we can't go. And she gets mad. She's like, these
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  Speaker 1: people paid thousands of dollars to go hang out at
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  Speaker 1: this fundraiser. You can't stand them up. And at this point,
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  Speaker 1: very few people knew much of anything about what COVID was.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, look, this is potentially a deadly virus.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know, and I promise you they will be
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  Speaker 1: happy that we're not exposing them to it at the outset.
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  Speaker 1: So we called and explained it to them, and they
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  Speaker 1: had a great time at the concert and we stayed
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  Speaker 1: at home and Heidi was mad at me. So it
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  Speaker 1: is worth pointing out that three years later, we've discovered
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  Speaker 1: that the virus if you're really old, if you're really sick,
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  Speaker 1: it can be deadly. But for young, healthy people, we've
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  Speaker 1: discovered the health impacts are much lower than we thought.
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  Speaker 1: And what's interesting is the breaking news that we all
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  Speaker 1: know now that now two different cabinet agency in the
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  Speaker 1: Biden administration, Department of Energy and the FBI, have both
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  Speaker 1: concluded that it is likely that the COVID virus came
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  Speaker 1: from a Chinese government lab. Now, as everyone here knows,
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  Speaker 1: finally these two departments are doing some good workout. It
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  Speaker 1: is shocking. But as everyone here knows, for two years
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  Speaker 1: that was derided as a conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat wearing,
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  Speaker 1: nutty theory that you weren't allowed to say, that you'd
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  Speaker 1: get banned on social media for saying. And I have
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  Speaker 1: to point out this podcast three years ago, in March
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, and in April of twenty twenty, we
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  Speaker 1: did two extended pods laying out the evidence then three
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  Speaker 1: years ago that this came from a Chinese government lab.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact we walked through what convinced these guys today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: almost all of it you knew three years ago, but
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  Speaker 1: politics wouldn't let them say it. And so I will say,
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  Speaker 1: and miraculously they didn't censor our podcast. They sensor just
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  Speaker 1: about everything else, but they didn't try to sense their verdicts.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's only appropriate we're back in DC
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  Speaker 1: that we remind the amazing media of what they were
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  Speaker 1: saying to the American people. I want to play clip
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  Speaker 1: to take a look at this. This is your media
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  Speaker 1: not pushing any narrative at all. Tomcott, in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago, spouting a conspiracy theory that the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: made this virus up in a lab, conservative talk show
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  Speaker 1: host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof, suggesting a Chinese bioweapon
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  Speaker 1: lab is to blame. We know that it's been debunked
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  Speaker 1: that this virus was manmade or modified or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Anthony Fauci rejected the conspiracy that coronavirus was man
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  Speaker 1: made in a lab in Wulan, China, And yet this week,
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is still pushing the debunked bunkum, despite his
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  Speaker 1: own intelligence community's findings that that is simply not true.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the evolution of the virus in
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  Speaker 1: bats and what's out there now is a very very
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  Speaker 1: strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or
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  Speaker 1: deliberately manipulating. Oh, bred, I'm really sorry that the lab
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  Speaker 1: bleak has become such a distraction for so many people
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  Speaker 1: because frankly, we still don't know. There is no evidence
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  Speaker 1: really to say most of the scientific community, myself included,
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  Speaker 1: I think that is a possibility, but far more likely
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  Speaker 1: this was a natural way in which a virus left.
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  Speaker 1: So so the first few hosts there were actually trying
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  Speaker 1: out for dumbest cable television host. That's that's that's what
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  Speaker 1: that was said. So sorry, I have my own COVID
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  Speaker 1: ruined my wife's life story, so I would tell that briefly.
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  Speaker 1: So we're in the heat of the the primary campaign and
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  Speaker 1: what turned into a very very intense campaign, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: my wife was thirty nine weeks pregnant, so we're, you know,
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  Speaker 1: very bad at family planning. So my wife, my wife
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  Speaker 1: gets a COVID and she actually I got for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a mild cold for her. She got
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  Speaker 1: actually pretty sick, which maybe has something to do with
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  Speaker 1: the facts she was thirty nine weeks pregnant. Um nine
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  Speaker 1: days afterwards, she starts going into labor and we called
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  Speaker 1: the hospital and they said, I'd await another few hours
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  Speaker 1: because if you come in now, you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: wear the full mask, body gear setup, complete quarantine your
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  Speaker 1: husband can't be in the room with you, but if
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  Speaker 1: you wait a few hours, then you've reached the quarantine period.
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  Speaker 1: This was in December of twenty one, So we ruined.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all of us have a crazy COVID story.
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  Speaker 1: I think mine is better, better than most in other words,
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  Speaker 1: And there were a lot of people, of course, who
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  Speaker 1: were prevented seeing loved ones in their final moments, and
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  Speaker 1: that is heartbreaking. But the failure to be honest about
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  Speaker 1: this virus with the American people ruined a lot of lives.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that they called us conspiracy theorists for
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  Speaker 1: stating the obvious. I mean, credit to you guys for
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  Speaker 1: talking about this, credit to Tom Cotton for talking about this.
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  Speaker 1: But it was I mean, look, there were always two options, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: one was a bat that had COVID flew into a
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  Speaker 1: guy's soup and it sort of wafted into his nose
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  Speaker 1: and he got human COVID. Or it was possible by
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  Speaker 1: the way, or it was made two miles down the road.
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  Speaker 1: In the Wuhan Institute of Virology studied bat coronaviruses. It
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  Speaker 1: was always the most reasonable baseline assumption. And the fact
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  Speaker 1: you were censored for it is crazy. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: the good news is that cpack is serving bat soup
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  Speaker 1: for lunch. It's it's it's delicious. So look what JD
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  Speaker 1: said is exactly right. What are the facts that we
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  Speaker 1: knew within a couple of months of this pandemic beginning.
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  Speaker 1: What are the facts we laid out on this podcast?
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  Speaker 1: Number one, the Wuhan Institute Verbology, which studies viruses, not
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  Speaker 1: just viruses, studies coronaviruses, not just coronaviruses, studies coronaviruses derived
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  Speaker 1: from bats. By the way, the bats in question that
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  Speaker 1: carry these coronaviruses do not occur naturally in Wuhan, China.
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  Speaker 1: The closest you can find these bats to Wuhan are
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  Speaker 1: in caves that are nine hundred miles away. Now where
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  Speaker 1: is the Wuhana Institute Verbology. It is literally a couple
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  Speaker 1: hundred yards from the wet market where the first outbreak occurred.
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  Speaker 1: You could drive a golf ball, Well, I couldn't. I
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  Speaker 1: would not say I could drive the golf ball. You
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  Speaker 1: could drive it in the golf cart. Yes, through the
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  Speaker 1: spot of the crime. That's fact number one. Fact number two.
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  Speaker 1: In November of twenty nineteen, not one, not two. Three
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  Speaker 1: scientists employees at the Wuhan Institute for Viology checked themselves
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  Speaker 1: into the hospital with serious illnesses that may well have
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  Speaker 1: big been the beginning of the pandemic. Fact number three.
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  Speaker 1: When the pandemic erupted, we discovered that China had been
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  Speaker 1: stockpiling protective medical equipment several months before the pandemic, and
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  Speaker 1: China ordered the Wuhan Institute for Viology to destroy the samples. Now,
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  Speaker 1: look at a court of law, and I'm sorry you
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  Speaker 1: have two lawyers here. You did something really wrong. In
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  Speaker 1: a court of law, in a civil case or a
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  Speaker 1: criminal case, if someone destroys evidence, a judge will instruct
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  Speaker 1: the jury. You are entitled to draw an inference from
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  Speaker 1: the destruction of evidence that that evidence was incriminating, that
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  Speaker 1: there's a reason they destroyed the evidence. In this case,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't complicated what the reason was that the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: government said destroy all the samples, we don't want any evidence.
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  Speaker 1: I think now and then, it was overwhelmingly likely that
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  Speaker 1: COVID escaped from a Chinese government lab, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it is significantly more likely than not that it was
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  Speaker 1: in fact altered in that lab through gain a function
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  Speaker 1: research that it was a natural virus that they made
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  Speaker 1: more dangerous, more deadly, and that's why China doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: culpability for it. And I will say this, if you
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  Speaker 1: and I think most people at Seapack would agree. You
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  Speaker 1: want some accountability, specifically with doctor Fauci. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people believe you lied to Congress. Is
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  Speaker 1: there going to be any accountability? And you can keep
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  Speaker 1: it short, but is there gonna be any accountability for
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  Speaker 1: him looking saying I did not we did not fund
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  Speaker 1: getting function research. It was not this wuhan, this was
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  Speaker 1: it was not the Instuite of orology. He's gone all
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  Speaker 1: in on this. Will there be any acoonomy because you
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  Speaker 1: were on the house side as well, he was looking
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  Speaker 1: and in my opinion, lying to the American people. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there there should be accountability. It's that simple. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: he clearly Tony Fauci lied under oath, He lied to
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  Speaker 1: the American people, and it's not just that, he compelled
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  Speaker 1: and persuaded the FBI to censor information about the pandemic
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  Speaker 1: as it was unfolding. Yep, he tried to shut down.
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  Speaker 1: He used his government power to shut down the functioning
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  Speaker 1: of the First Amendment so that we could not have
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  Speaker 1: an honest and open debate about where COVID came from
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  Speaker 1: and what to do about it. And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely disgraceful what Tony Fauci did. Now, the question, and
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  Speaker 1: Ted is a much smarter lawyer than I am, is
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  Speaker 1: if we actually want to say he committed perjury, is
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: that Merritt Garland who has to make that decision, which
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  Speaker 1: I know you met him yesterday. I'm not optimistic that
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Merritt Garland is going to do the right thing here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Merrick, go ahead, but let's go to
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  Speaker 1: Bret Garlin after that. So look, amen, that's right, That's
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  Speaker 1: exactly right. So someone just called out, follow the money
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  Speaker 1: and the money. Look, doctor Fauci is the most has
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  Speaker 1: done more damage than any bureaucrat in the history of
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  Speaker 1: our nation, that's right, and was the highest paid. He
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  Speaker 1: led policies that destroyed people's lives, that hurt tens of
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  Speaker 1: millions of kids across this country that destroyed businesses, and
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  Speaker 1: he lied repeatedly, over and over and over again. Now
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  Speaker 1: one of the consequences is he elevated politics above science
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  Speaker 1: and medicine. There has been no person who has done
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  Speaker 1: more to destroy trust in the scientific and medical community
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  Speaker 1: than doctor Anthony Fauci, who told millions of Americans lies willingly, knowingly, glibly, supremely, arrogantly.
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  Speaker 1: Should there be an accountability in any sane system, he
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  Speaker 1: would be prosecuted for lying under oath, and he would
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  Speaker 1: go to jail for lying under oath to Congress. Now, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: I can quantify with mathematic medical precision the likelihood that
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  Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice will prosecute him, and the
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  Speaker 1: odds are zero point zero zero zero percent. They will
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  Speaker 1: not do it. This is a lawless department of Justice.
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  Speaker 1: Will there be accountability. There will be accountability. Number one.
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  Speaker 1: We have a majority in the House, and I am
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  Speaker 1: confident in the House that we're going to use that
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  Speaker 1: majority and use it to hold doctor Fauci and the
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  Speaker 1: others who lied accountable. And we need to have hearings
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  Speaker 1: on the origins of COVID. We need to have hearings
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  Speaker 1: to follow the money. We need to have hearings examining
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  Speaker 1: and laying out the facts about how Fauci misled the
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  Speaker 1: American people and the corruption that drove that. You mentioned
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  Speaker 1: Garling a second ago. There are some fireworks yesterday on
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  Speaker 1: Capitol Hill, and I want to play a clip of
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  Speaker 1: you talking with the AG and I'm going to call
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  Speaker 1: for clip five. Because this was about two systems of
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  Speaker 1: justice in this country. I think it's very queer. There
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  Speaker 1: are two systems of justice. You asked them about this.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look seventy United States marshals. Try again, Has
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  Speaker 1: the Department of Justice brought even a single case under
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  Speaker 1: this statute? So, yes, no question. It's not a give
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  Speaker 1: a speech on the other things you did. The job
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  Speaker 1: of the United States Marshals, it's to defend the lives.
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  Speaker 1: The answers No, is to defend the lives of the justices,
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  Speaker 1: and that's our number one priority. They aser, are you
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  Speaker 1: unwilling to say no? The answers no. You know it's no.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's no. Everyone in this in this hearing
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  Speaker 1: room knows it's no. You're not willing to answer a question.
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  Speaker 1: Have you brought a case under this statute, yes or no.
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  Speaker 1: Far as I know, we haven't and what we have
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  Speaker 1: done is defended to the lives of the justices. Marshals,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: how do you decide which criminal statutes the DOJ enforces
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  Speaker 1: and which one it doesn't? The United States marshals know
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that they have full I recognize you want to give
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a separate speech. Oh, I don't want How do you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: decide which statute you enforce in which ones you don't it?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Marshals on scene make that determination in light of the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: priority of the marshals do not make a determined nation
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: over whether to prosecute you. The Attorney General will make
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: a determination. And you spent twenty years of a job,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and you're perfectly content with justices being afraid for their
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: children's lives, and you did nothing to prosecute it. Let's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: can I answer the question? No, you can refuse to answer.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I am answering your question. General does not decide whether
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to work. How did you choose not to not to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: enforce the statute? The marshals on scene don't make that decision.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: They do make the decision of whether to make them
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: arrestcute someone know they don't if they make them, if
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: they make it. Marshals do not have prosecutions. They make
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: an arrest. Change topics because our time is limited. Yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it's coffee. How many? How many? So so getting the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: host of podcasts and it's fun for me because I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: know your habits. How many diet doctor peppers did you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: have before you got into that question? Yesterday? Eleven eleven? Okay,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: there we go. So you look at that moment and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I think it was all encompassing of what the American
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I think, especially conservatives fact you're up against, which is
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: there's two systems of justice here. If you're a conservative,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: will come after you with a full strength of all.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We'll break down doors, will bring people to come after you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You know the story of a man and you can
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: pick it up from here and remind people of how
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: they treat conservatives compared to when you're intimidating judges of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court over issues like Rovway where they're trying
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to flip votes. So look, Merrick Garland, I believe is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the most partisan and politicized Attorney general our nation has
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: ever seen. And what is happening if the Department of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Justices is heartbreaking because it is turned into the political
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: weapon for the Democrats to attack their enemies and protect
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: their friends. And it is astonishing. Look Garland, he spent
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: all day before the Judiciary Committee in testimony. He will
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: not answer a straight question at all. And he looks
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: at you, number one. You know we were talking about
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Fauci and supreme arrogance. You know Merrick Garland can compete
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: in that category with Fauci and that's impressive. You're going
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: pro Garland looks at you like, how dare you ask
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: me a question? And the guy was a judge for
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: twenty four years and you look at that hearing. So
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: for example, what we were talking about, as you guys know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: when the Dabs opinion was released. When it was leaked,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: hundreds of left wing protesters, radical left wing protesters went
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to the homes of six Supreme Court justices and engaged
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: in angry, violent protests. And by the way, left wing
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: groups were not only giving out the home addresses of justices,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they were giving where the justices worshiped, what churches they
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: went to. They were giving where their kids went to school.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: An angry protesters at your home when your kids are
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: sleeping in their bedroom is inherently threatening. There is a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: statute in eighteen USC. Fifteen seventy one that makes it
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a crime, a federal crime, to protest at the home
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: of a judge in an effort to influence the outcome
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: of a case. It's the same. It's similar to jury temper.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: You can't go to a juror's house and protest to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: try to get a not guilty verdict. This Department of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Justice refuses to enforce the law. And it was clear
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: for that hearing that Merrick Garland's political staff had written
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: one sentence, this is your political talking point. The marshals
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: decide whether or not to arrest someone. That's true. There
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: were marshals there and the marshals didn't arrest someone. But
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: under our system of justice, marshals are essentially police officers.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: They have zero prosecution authority. The only prosecution authority in
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the federal law is in the Department of Justice with
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the prosecutors. Merrick Garland is the one who made the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: decision we're not going to prosecute here. And by the way,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: these numb nuts put up pictures of themselves on social media,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: we're not talking master criminals that they've confessed to the crime.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: They could be found easily. But Merrick Garland agrees with
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the protesters. He doesn't like the dab's decision. He supports
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: ro versus Wade. And what is shocking for someone who
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: spent twenty four years as a judge as that he's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: perfectly willing to be complicit with a left wing violent
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: mob threatening the lives and families of the justices because
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: he supports their political agenda. That is incredibly dangerous. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: let's let's take stocks for just a second of who
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Merrick Garland has gone after and who he's refused to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: go after. He's gone after a pro life father of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: seven at his home, arrested him like a hardened criminal.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: He's gone after parents peacefully protesting at their children's school
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: board meetings. He's had the FBI investigate traditional Catholics as
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: being domestic terrorists. And he won't use the Department of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Justice to go after people who are harassing the children
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of Supreme Court justice. The guy is a disgrace. He
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: needs to go. How much you just ran. You're out
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: there with the voters, you're talking to them, How how
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: concerned and tell a little bit about your story. Matt,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: You're you're what I would refer to as blue car conservative.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You come in, you run for this thing. How concerned
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: are the American people about these type of issues when
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you were talking to them that, Hey, this government that
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to trust, it's supposed to protect me for SUPs,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: tect my rights where I'm supposed to be innocent until
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: proven guilty or now being accused of things just because
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: of politics, and can they can ruin your life? They
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: can come in and literally ruin your life. Ye. Look,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: one of the things Ted said when he was out
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: on the campaign treol campaigning with me to this blue
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: collar conservatism point that I Stoleton. I hope you won't
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: mind it, but I'll give you credit though. So borrowing.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He would talk about how if you look at who's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: voting Republicans, I mean we're the party of soldiers and sailors,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of nurses, of construction workers, of people who go to work,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: pay their taxes, raise their children, and just want to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: live in safe communities. That is our base right now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And I love that right We should be proud of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that base, and we should be working hard to serve
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that base. And you know, I got to say a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: lot of our elites a lot of the leaders I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: think of the establishment of the Republican Party, they're ashamed
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of our new base. I know, Ted and I are,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and that's something that's very, very good that's happening in
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: our party. It's a great thing. But look, if you
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: think about those people, middle class people who go to work,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they do their thing, They try to just live a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: good life in the country that their parents and grandparents built.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: They know that when the Department of Justice acts unfairly,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: they're the very kind of people who suffer. They know
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: that the very thing that makes this country special is
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that whether you're powerful or not, whether you're rich or poor,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: we all have equal justice under law, or at least
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: we did until Joe Biden's getting of thugs moved into
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the White House. And let me let me say something
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: on that, which is, you know, JD is a brand
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: new senator and he's one of the people I am
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: incredibly excited that is now a member of the US
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Senate because thank you. As JD mentioned, I campaigned with
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: him all over the state of Ohio. He's a hell
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of a candidate. He was powerful and effective on the stump.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: He worked his tail off. But you know, JD's personal
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: story is a story that describes who the Republican Party is.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, JD grew up an apple Lasia, grew up
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: in working class environments, in rough working class environments, was
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a marine who went to Yale Law School. And I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: will tell you there's a long history of on verdict
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of making fun of Yale University deserved for a long time.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I did it together, and I tried to make fun
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of Yale on a regular basis. So we're just continuing
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: that trend. But as you guys all know, JD wrote
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: a New York Times number one bestseller, Hillbilly Elogy, which
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: is a fantastic book. It is, actually it's it's probably
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the best explanation. You can combine them at checkout at
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, just so you know, Justice corrupted this book.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: You can literally put them together. That's yeah. For the record,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I wasn't hockey my own book, right, And while Ted
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: talks about how great I am, let's extend the clock
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit. We're running a little time to make
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: sure Ted has has plenty of time to go on. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but look what JD did so powerfully because I am
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: going to go on is described the pathologies that have
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: been just hammering working men and women in this country,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: not even working men and women, people who are not working.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And whether the the opioid crisis and addiction, the destruction
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of manufacturing jobs, the the the loss of of of
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: fathers and at home raising kids. And it is a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: powerful explanation of the damage that's been done. And and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and it's a really clarion call. I gotta tell you,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you know, this is no longer the party of the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: country clubs. And there's some of our colleagues in the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Republican Conference who are really confused who this guy is.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so excited that he's come. Give
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: us your your thoughts on all right, you've been in
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the Senate two months, yep, vacation for three so let's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you know half of it. We've been on vacation. But
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: what do you see as the future of the Republican
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Party as it concerns How are we different from the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Republican Party of twenty years ago? Yeah, I mean that's
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a that's a that's a big question. I guess the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: way that I think about it is we're the party
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of wage earners, were the party of taxpayers, and we're
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the party of the people who fight and hopefully win
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: America's wars. That's really how I think about it, and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: what that means is because because we have a different
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: coalition than maybe we had thirty years ago, we got
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to think a little bit about about different issues differently.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I think the old Republican Party would have maybe seen
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Merritt Garland applying equal justice in our country on equally
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and would have said, well, you know, they're in power.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: The Democrats get to do what they want to do.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think you and I are attitude is, Look, if
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: we don't stop this, Dennis Tracks, we're gonna lose the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: very thing that makes life livable for our own voters
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and for our own people. It's unacceptable, I think for
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: too long. I mean, look, even going back twenty thirty years,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party was okay with trade deals and with
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: negotiations with China, most favored nation status with China. That
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: destroyed the manufacturing base that, by the way, hollowed out
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: our ability to make our own weapons on the national
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: security side, but also destroyed a lot of good middle
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: class jobs in the state that I came from. We're
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: not doing that anymore. We're not playing that game anymore.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: We are the pro America Party, not the pro China party.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That's changed. And you know, I guess I think the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: final way I think about this is the Democrats approach
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: to people who are struggling in the heartland is it's fine,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: if you lose your job, we'll just give you well fair.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But we believe in the dignity of work and of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: moms and dads supporting their families, and what policies are
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: going to make that easier to happen. And I'll tell
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you we're seeing that divide play out. There are lots
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of issues on which the blue collars shift in the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: party is playing out. Immigration is front and center. There
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: used to be Chamber of Commerce Republicans that were all
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: four open borders because they looked at it and saw
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: cheap labor. It's exactly right, and that's not where the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: American people are. That's not where the Republican Party should be,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and that change matters. Look, we saw recently we almost
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: had a massive rail strike, and we're almost a massive
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: rail strike, and there was a dispute between management and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the unions and it ended up coming to an impass
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: because Biden and Pete Buddha Jedge screwed it all up right,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and it came to an impass that a lot these days.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But the assumptions was kick it to Congress and Congress
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: will rule with management and that'll be it. And I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: got to tell you, and it was the Biden administration
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that was pressing to overturn what the unions wanted. The
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: unions wanted paid sickly. Actually, the rule and the railroads
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: was if you wanted sick leave, you had to put
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in for it several days in advance, which is really
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: helpful if you know, hey, I'm planning to get sick
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday. Like, I'm not sure exactly how that works.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And so I looked at it, and my first view is,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: why is Congress getting in the middle of it. This
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: ought to be freely negotiative between management and the unions.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: We have no business getting in the middle and resolving it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And so initially we had a vote to delay and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: give them more time to negotiate a mutually agreed upon solution.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: That vote was rejected, and so at the end of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the day there were a handful of us that said
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the heck with us and voted with the workers because
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I thought the workers demands were We're really reasonable, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I said, look, we're not a rubber stamp for what
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: management wants. That is a new dynamic in the Republican
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Party and I think JD being there is a big
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: part of getting it viscerally, which is something we need
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: going forward. And I got to say also, everyone here
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: is is horrified at the derailment and niece Palastine and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: j D has been fantastic going back there on leadership. Yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: like thank you going back there. You know, he went
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and did a video of him poking water with a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: stick and all sorts of crazy scary crap game up
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Joe Biden completely a wall Pete
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: buddhagg What the hell does this guy gotta do to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: get fired? Like like at this point, it's it's it's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a bar game, Like what else could he do? And
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, JD standing up. And the Democrats don't
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: give a damn about East Palestine because it's it's a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: blue collar, red, red place and they're like, to hell
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: with you. If you were a bunch of transgender tech workers,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you'd have the entire Biden cabinet down there for a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: listening session and sit in to feel their pain. But Jad,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and by the way, Jad alongside Donald Trump, came there
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and guilted the administration and that was powerful assent. I've
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: never said this, by the way, in the podcast before
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you guys have a vote coming up that you're about
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to head off to see. The nice thing is Ben
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: being a radio guys. He's very docile, so that we
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: have screens up here that say please rest wrop up.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: We're just accoring it. Look right, we're having fun. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: like that you're raised for this. All right. I will
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: ask last question, and I'm sure Matt's not gonna fire
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: me over this. I will ask one last question. I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: think it's important one. What does the Republican Party need
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to do over the next two years to unify and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: find good candidates? And the reason why I say this
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: is the Democratic Party is very unified right now. Yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: they are so unified they will elect a dead guy
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania on purpose, and they will elect Fetterman, who
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: clearly they took advantage of. I think that's evil what
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: they did to him, in my opinion. And you look
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: at what where Biden is right now. If he is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: their guy, which I have every I expect him to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: be their guy. As long as he has a heartbeat,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: they'll vote him in. That's how unify the Air as
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: a party right now, which is scary. But what does
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the Concerted Movement need to do for the next two years? Quickly?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Let me offer five views, because I just came off
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: an election, and look, the thing that I was really
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: caught off guard by when I won my primaria is that, yes,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: some arms of the establishment said, maybe this wasn't our
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: number one choice, but look he won, and we need
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to keep the seat red, and so we're going to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: support JD. Vans. There are a lot of folks in
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the establishment win when they don't get their preferred candidate,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: who whine, who will not help, who will not lift
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a finger to help candidates, And look, they're gonna be
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of candidates that win Republican primaries that aren't
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: going to be my first choice, that maybe you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit more moderate than I am, a little
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: bit more established than I am, who cares when you
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: have a candidate win the primary, we've all got to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: get on board and support him from the president on down.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: No more whining from the establishment, Let's help our candidates
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: win and look. To be very clear, the DC establishment
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: basically abandoned the Senate candidate in Arizona, basically abandoned the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Senate candidate in New Hampshire, and that was disgraceful. We
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: need to win and that means getting behind people who
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: are ready to fight and taking it seriously. I support
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the strongest Conservative who can win, and we need to win.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: We need to take back the Senate, we need to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: grow our majority in the House, and we need to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: send Joe Biden back to his beach house in Della
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Amen that there it is. Thank you guys for being
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: here at Seapac being all verdict. Make sure you down
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: woant it will see you soon.