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Kamala Rises: Democrat Panic over Biden Reaches Fever Pitch · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you had a fabulous Fourth of July with
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  Speaker 2: your family, and we've got a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's going to be a lot about
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  Speaker 2: Biden because that's what everybody else in the country was
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  Speaker 2: chatting about over the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly true.
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  Speaker 4: Chaos ensues in the Democrat Party, paddic is continuing to grow.
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  Speaker 4: But before we talk about that, I will say you
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  Speaker 4: and I are both sitting here. It is Sunday night,
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  Speaker 4: We're both in Houston, Texas, and a hurricane is preparing
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  Speaker 4: in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: So just before this.
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  Speaker 4: you and me in Houston. We're anticipating anywhere from five
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  Speaker 4: inches to as much as fifteen inches of depending on
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  Speaker 4: where you where you are, So so let me say,
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  Speaker 4: first of all, to everyone in Texas, stay safe.
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  Speaker 3: Don't.
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  Speaker 4: You and I were talking right before we started filming this.
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  Speaker 4: You were saying, it's your first hurricane in Houston. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a lifelong Houstonian and hurricanes are part of life here.
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  Speaker 3: And so keep your family safe.
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  Speaker 4: any unnecessary risks and you listen to first responders and
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  Speaker 4: stay at a harm's way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: I also want to ask you about this week you
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  Speaker 2: were hanging out with fam. How many people around fourth
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  Speaker 2: of July asked you about Joe Biden? Everyone look look
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  Speaker 2: fourth of July.
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  Speaker 4: I had a great, great several days with with my
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  Speaker 4: youngest daughter Catherine. The two of us together hung out.
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  Speaker 4: Now Heidi and Caroline went on a mission trip to Africa,
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  Speaker 4: which was a fantastic experience.
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  Speaker 3: Shake.
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  Speaker 4: Caroline went with Heidi and with Heidie's mom and and
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  Speaker 4: and they were in Zambia. Had an incredible time there.
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  Speaker 4: But but you know, I got to say it over
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  Speaker 4: the fourth of July, you know, we were we were
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  Speaker 4: barbecuing burgers. Unlike Chuck Schumer, we actually know to turn
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  Speaker 4: the heat on and to cook the burger before you
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  Speaker 4: put the cheese on. So so so that's that's something
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  Speaker 4: apparently Democrats don't understand how actually agrilla burger. But just
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  Speaker 4: about every every durn conversation standing around on the fourth
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  Speaker 4: of July was what's happening with Biden?
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  Speaker 3: Is he going what's going to happen? And and and
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  Speaker 3: and I.
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  Speaker 4: Got to say, we have seen the chaos spreading. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: we've seen the White House damage control really not going
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  Speaker 4: well at all. And and also on today's podcast, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to modify my prediction at least some what I
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  Speaker 4: now think there's a significant chance we may get an
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  Speaker 4: outcome different than what I predict.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna explain all that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we're changing predictions. I like this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to what you said a moment ago, Senator.
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  Speaker 2: You said, you're you're going to quote slightly change your
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  Speaker 2: prediction for everyone that doesn't know.
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  Speaker 1: You predicted nine almost ten months.
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  Speaker 2: Ago now that if Joe Biden was replaced, it would
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  Speaker 2: be at the convention and they would parachute in Michelle Obama.
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  Speaker 1: So how are we changing it. I'm intrigued.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that was my prediction, as you said, nine ten
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  Speaker 4: months ago, and at the time my prediction then, as
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  Speaker 4: I said, there's a real possibility. I didn't believe nine
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  Speaker 4: ten months ago that it was greater than fifty percent,
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  Speaker 4: but I thought there was a real, significant possibility. There
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  Speaker 4: were Democrats who were flighting floating trial balloons even back then.
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  Speaker 4: The media was floating trial balloons even back then. And
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  Speaker 4: as I laid out my reasoning, I thought Michelle Obama
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  Speaker 4: was the natural choice for them, and where if I
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  Speaker 4: were a Democrat, that's where I would push. Now, over
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of months, I adjusted those odds to
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  Speaker 4: fifty to fifty or greater that they would pull the
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  Speaker 4: cord on Joe Biden. As things started getting worse and
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  Speaker 4: worse and worse, I thought the odds were getting higher
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  Speaker 4: and higher. And then after the disastrous debate, you and
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  Speaker 4: I both watched the debate. We watched it real time,
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  Speaker 4: and then we sat down and recorded the podcast immediately
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  Speaker 4: after the podcast and immediately after the debate. Rather and
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  Speaker 4: my assessment that night is I now think the chances
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  Speaker 4: are eighty percent that the Democrats pull the cord on
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden. And what I said then is and parachute
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  Speaker 4: Michelle Obama in Again, if I were a Democrat, I'd
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  Speaker 4: be all in on that, and In fact, if that happened,
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  Speaker 4: it would be incredibly dangerous. We've seen polling that puts
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  Speaker 4: Michelle Obama in a really strong position, and as someone
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  Speaker 4: who wants Trump to win in November, I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to see that happen. What is interesting, though, the Democrats
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  Speaker 4: don't seem to be heading there with the speed that
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  Speaker 4: you would anticipate. And so here's how I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: alter my addiction. I still think it is eighty percent
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  Speaker 4: that they pull the cord on Joe Biden, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: now going to modify it and say among that eighty percent,
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  Speaker 4: I think it is fifty to fifty whether they go
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  Speaker 4: with Michelle Obama or Kamala Harris. And I didn't think
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  Speaker 4: they'd go with Kamala because Kamala is a much weaker candidate.
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  Speaker 4: But it's interesting we have seen Democrats positioning, fighting, pushing
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  Speaker 4: for Kamala to be the choice. And so, as I'm
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  Speaker 4: handicapping it right now, in terms of who's going to
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  Speaker 4: be the Democrat nominee come November, I put the odds
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  Speaker 4: forty percent Michelle Obama, forty percent Kamala Harris, and twenty
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  Speaker 4: percent Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go over. Why you think that Kamala
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  Speaker 2: has jumped up for me personally? I do think they're
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  Speaker 2: kind of forced in a position where she's the front runner.
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  Speaker 2: Just from the aspect of the money. The money that's
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  Speaker 2: raised by the Biden heres campaign can only stay with
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  Speaker 2: Biden slash Harris. It can't go to somebody else quickly
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  Speaker 2: and the campaign apparatus. Is that why you're saying she
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  Speaker 2: has a much higher chance now than you said before.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, the money. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: I'll sort itself out. The Democrats are not going to
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  Speaker 4: be lacking for money in November. They've got gazillionaires who
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  Speaker 4: will devote whatever money is necessary to try to elect
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  Speaker 4: a Democrat that's not going to constrain their choice. Look,
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  Speaker 4: Michelle Obama, what I laid out ten months ago was
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  Speaker 4: that Kamala was obviously a deeply flawed candidate. But if
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  Speaker 4: you wanted to push her aside, the Democrats could not
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  Speaker 4: push her aside and replace her with a white guy
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  Speaker 4: because their party, they're such bean counters. Their party would implode.
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  Speaker 4: And so the Gavin Newsom noticed. I put the odds
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  Speaker 4: of Gavin Newsom at zero percent. I don't think because
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  Speaker 4: he's a white guy, and he can't.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear you say it because it's
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  Speaker 1: it's so funny.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, it's the Democrat Party. If they pushed an
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  Speaker 4: African American woman aside for a white guy, particularly a
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  Speaker 4: rich white California surfer dude, that their party would would
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  Speaker 4: spontaneously combust. So they're faced in a quandary where the
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  Speaker 4: only human being on planet Earth who can push Kamala
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  Speaker 4: aside as Michelle Obama, because she has the same demographic
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  Speaker 4: characteristics as Kamala, and she she is the Democrat equivalent
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  Speaker 4: of royalty.
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  Speaker 3: She she she now has has Camelot.
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  Speaker 4: The Kennedys have gone, and the Obamas have replaced replaced them,
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  Speaker 4: and and and so she can parachute in as standing
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  Speaker 4: above the fray. What is interesting, though, is that nobody
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  Speaker 4: on the Democrat side has made any move towards that
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  Speaker 4: in the day since the debate, which which.
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised of.
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  Speaker 4: Instead, what you've seen is moultiple Democrats beginning to push Kamala,
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  Speaker 4: yeah hard, push her hard, and say, look, if Joe
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  Speaker 4: steps down, it's got to be Kamala.
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  Speaker 3: It's no one else, It's Kamala. It' Kamala, it's Kaba.
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  Speaker 4: So for me, it's not the money, it's you get
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  Speaker 4: invested in something, you start leaning in, the stakeholders start
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  Speaker 4: getting behind it, that the press voices start getting behind,
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  Speaker 4: the members of Congress and the senators start getting behind it.
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  Speaker 4: And once you're you can't be a little bit pregnant.
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  Speaker 4: And I think as people get further and further down
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  Speaker 4: that road, it becomes harder to check to change the
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  Speaker 4: course you're on. And you're already seeing lots of stories
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  Speaker 4: from the Democratic side. No, no, no, no, Kamala is
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  Speaker 4: a much stronger candidate than you think. All of you
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  Speaker 4: people who who think she's a weak candidate, you're all wrong,
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  Speaker 4: and she's going to be Madam President. We saw, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Jim Clyburn go on TV and say, look, I support
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  Speaker 4: Biden Harris, and that means I support Joe Biden even
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  Speaker 4: if Kamala Harris is not on the ticket. But he
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  Speaker 4: goes on to say, and that means I support Kamala
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  Speaker 4: Harris even if Joe Biden's not on the ticket. Now
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  Speaker 4: that's a big deal because without Clideburn, Biden doesn't get
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  Speaker 4: the nomination. In twenty twenty, he played a pivotal role
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  Speaker 4: in stampeding Democrats away from Bernie Sanders to Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that was a serious signal that the
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  Speaker 4: powers that be, they're freaking out, but more of them
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  Speaker 4: are getting behind Kamala than I thought would happened.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this Stepanophoulis interview, and you and I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned that it was an important interview. Obviously at the
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  Speaker 2: end of last week. It was an interview that was
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  Speaker 2: actually heavily watched. Some of the ratings show that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Americans watched it. It was obviously a topic
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  Speaker 2: of conversation for July fourth with people with their family,
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  Speaker 2: with their friends, and if you're a Democrat, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's actually this interview universe right now because you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what the heck are we going to.
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  Speaker 1: Do this interview.
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  Speaker 2: As I watched it, I don't think it helped the
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  Speaker 2: president at all. There was one moment in there that
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  Speaker 2: was actually shocking to me. And Stepanopolis asked the president
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  Speaker 2: did you watch the debate afterwards? And he paused and
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  Speaker 2: he said, no, I don't think I did. You would
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  Speaker 2: know if you watched the debate that was days earlier,
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't say no, I don't think I did. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think this interview helped the president at all.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, it is a weird answer. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: I watched it. And I will say this, I've done.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know a ton of political debates. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think I've ever watched one of the debates.
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I've watched little snippets. I've watched little excerpts from him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Frank Luntz does his dial group things, and
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  Speaker 4: I've had had Frank for several debates. Has like gone through,
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  Speaker 4: say a half dozen moments of the debate and played
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  Speaker 4: you know, a minute or no seconds or two minutes
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  Speaker 4: of it and showed me the dial groups of what
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  Speaker 4: people liked and what people didn't. So I've done that analysis.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't believe I've ever sat down and watched
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  Speaker 4: a debate and its entirety after it happened. But that
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  Speaker 4: being said, if you ask a person three days later
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  Speaker 4: did you watch the debate to say I don't know
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  Speaker 4: is kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a disaster of a debate, so it
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  Speaker 2: was even more of a relevant question. You've never had
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  Speaker 2: a disaster debate like Joe Biden did either.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I will tell you that there was
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  Speaker 4: one I did, and you don't know about this, but
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  Speaker 4: long ago, all right, So when I was first running
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  Speaker 4: for separate stories.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, for everybody that's listening, this is when
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  Speaker 2: it gets good, So take notes.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm first running for Senate. It's a twenty twelve election.
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  Speaker 4: It was twenty eleven, and nobody's ever heard of me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a candidate. I'm at two percent in the polls.
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  Speaker 4: Never been you know, never been elected to nothing. Last
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  Speaker 4: thing I was elected to was student council. And so
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  Speaker 4: I'm out there. I'm working. I'm working. And we had
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  Speaker 4: we had an event in San Antonio, a fundraiser, and
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  Speaker 4: it was a fundraiser at the home of a wonderful woman,
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  Speaker 4: a dear friend in San Antonio. Had people come and
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  Speaker 4: we stayed at the dinner till till about midnight, and
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  Speaker 4: then we drove from San Antonio back to Houston. And
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  Speaker 4: so I got to my house at four in the morning,
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  Speaker 4: and I slept from four in the morning till about
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  Speaker 4: six in the morning, and I had a breakfast at
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  Speaker 4: like seven or seven thirty. So I got maybe two
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  Speaker 4: hours sleep. That night, we had a debate for the
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  Speaker 4: Senate race. And it was an interesting debate because at
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  Speaker 4: the time, David Dewhurst, who was Lieutenant governor and was
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  Speaker 4: the leading candidate who was supposed to walk into a coronation,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't participate at all, and so it was it
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  Speaker 4: was several of us that were considered by the media
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  Speaker 4: to be the kind of second tier, but it was
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  Speaker 4: the only Senate debate. You may not know this either,
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  Speaker 4: that Dan Patrick, who's now the Lieutenant governor of Texas.
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  Speaker 4: Dan participated in. He didn't actually run for Senate, but
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  Speaker 4: he kind of thought about it. He thought about it
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  Speaker 4: enough to participate in the debate and that debate that night,
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  Speaker 4: I'd had between an hour and two hours sleep, and
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  Speaker 4: as the debate was going on, to be absolutely honest, Bet,
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  Speaker 4: I was just falling asleep. I was literally like nodding
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  Speaker 4: over there and my answers, I think some of my
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  Speaker 4: answers were shorter than Biden. You know, like at some point,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, they asked me something like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: would you abolish so security? I don't remember, something like that,
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  Speaker 4: and I gave like a three word answer, no. I
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  Speaker 4: would not, and that they seem clever. But it's really
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  Speaker 4: bad debate strategy. And I and and you know my
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  Speaker 4: political team really well, I am not a yeller. I
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  Speaker 4: don't yell at my team. You could ask JJ. I
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  Speaker 4: yelled at him and I said, look, I think I'm
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  Speaker 4: relatively decent at this stuff, but you can't send me
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  Speaker 4: into a debate with an hour or two hour sleep.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's just not And I sucked that night.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It was a miserable debate. Thankfully, there were like twelve
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  Speaker 4: people on planet Earth that watched it and so as
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  Speaker 4: I was dozing off. It did not impact the race
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  Speaker 4: one way or the other, but it sure did impact me.
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  Speaker 4: I was never going to let that happen again.
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  Speaker 2: That's hey, it only takes once, right and then you
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  Speaker 2: learn your lesson on that one for sure. If you
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  Speaker 2: are Kamala Harris now, and I want to know, do
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  Speaker 2: you think she'll be held accountable for her lives? And
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  Speaker 2: hold on, I want to play it for you first.
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  Speaker 2: I want to play it for you. Okay, this is
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris over the years. Okay, this isn't just like
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  Speaker 2: in the last week covering for the cognitive ConA Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 2: will she have to answer for this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to play it, and I want your reaction.
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  Speaker 5: We have a very bold and vibrant president in Joe Biden, but.
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  Speaker 6: A majority of Americans, according a majority of Democrats according
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  Speaker 6: to our new poll, say they don't want President Biden
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  Speaker 6: to run again.
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  Speaker 5: What do you say to that, I mean, George, I
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  Speaker 5: think that age is more than a chronological fact. To
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  Speaker 5: be very frank with you, it's about thinking about whether
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  Speaker 5: we have in our leader, which we do in Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 5: somebody who was bold, I mean, think about it. And
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  Speaker 5: in Joe Biden, we have a president who is probably
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  Speaker 5: one of the boldest and strongest American presidents we have
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  Speaker 5: had in his response to the needs of the American people.
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  Speaker 5: But he is an extraordinary leader. And I wish that
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: people could see what I see, because there's only one
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: person who says, behind that resolute desk, you're fifty eight.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: Now. If you win the second term, as you and
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: the President are running to do, he would be eighty
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: six at the end of it. The Wall Street Journal
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: had a poll showing two thirds of Democrats say Joe
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: Biden is too old to run again. Are you prepared
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: to be commandering?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, I am if necessary. But Joe Biden is gonna
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: be fine. And let me tell you something. I work
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: with Joe Biden every day. The work that under Joe
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Biden's leadership, our administration has accomplished is transformative.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: To very prominent Washington Post articles today talking about President
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: Biden's age, and that's a been concerned among the young
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: voters and in growing poll numbers, that's a be concerned.
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: Are are people right to be concerned about his age.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: At this point?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Well, let me just say this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: When I talk to these young voters, what they want
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: is a leader who is in touch with the problems
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: of today and has a vision for what we can
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: do today and in the future to deal with it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: President Biden is the first president to take on in
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: any substantial way the issue of the climate crisis.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not going I mean you you listen to this
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and I've got another four minutes.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: But that's just some of the highlights.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: She whied to the American people and has been definitely
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: involved in this cover up she for years. It says
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Biden is quote very bold and vibrant. Then she says
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he's tireless in terms of working and says he's gonna
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: be fine. He is in good shape, he's in good health.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: She lied to the American people. So if she gets
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the nomination, how big is this going to come back?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I think of of a of a conversation with Donald
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Trump and whoever he picks when they go up against her.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Look, I think in terms of the media, absolutely not
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: at all. They they do not care. She repeated the line,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: so did every other Democrats, so did every other White
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: House staff, or so did all of the all of
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the corporate media. You know, it reminds me from from
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: from the line from the movie The Manchurian Candidate. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: remember that, that that movie with Frank Sinatra in it,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: and and and they're all brainwashed to support this candidate,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: and they all say the identical line. They all say,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: being I've ever known in my life. And they all
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: repeat that because that's what they were brainwashed to say. Look,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Kamala talking about Joe Biden is the same things. He's
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: known in my life. He's most smart, he's brilliant. He
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: can do differential equations in his head. Wow, and they're
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: just lying. They know they're lying. They knew they were lying.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: But you know what, the press knew they were lying.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: The Democrats knew they were lying. They didn't care that
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: they were lying. And the frustrating thing is they don't
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: care now. They'd be perfectly fine to prop Joe Biden
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: up and we can it bernies him for the next
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: four years if it keeps him in power. The only
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: reason they care is because they're looking at poll numbers saying,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: oh crap, people don't want to elect someone president who's
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: noncompassment is if they thought they could get away with
• 20:49
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• 20:52
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you another question.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: After the George Stephanopolis interview took place, Biden refused to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: commit to an independent medical evaluation. If he was trying
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to get everyone to calm down, wouldn't your campaign say
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: yes to doing this unless they're hiding something. Would you
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: neurological and cognitive cognitive tests.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: And release the results to the American people.
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every day,
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: I have that test everything I do. You know, not
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: only am I campaigning, but I'm running the world.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: And that sound how it sounds like.
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: Iprobaly, But we are the central nation in the world,
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: and I don't know that was right. And every single day,
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: for example, today, before I come out here, I'm on
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: the phone with the Prime minister. You or I shouldn't
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: get into detail.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But he can't remember which prime minister he's on the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: phone with. It says I got this under control, guys,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I don't need a cognitive test from a doctor.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I do it every day well and look to be fair,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: he may well have had that test. I mean, we
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: also had the stories break this past week. That's the
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: New York Post. President Biden's physician met with Parkinson's disease
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: specialist in the White House. A top Washington neurologist had
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: a meeting with President Biden's personal doctor at the White
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: House earlier this year. Visitors logs reviewed by the Post
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: show doctor Kevin Canard, a Parkinson's disease expert at Walter
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Reed Medical Center, met with doctor Kevin O'Connor and two
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: others at the White House Residence clinic on January seventeenth,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: according to records, which emerge as questions continue to swirl
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: about the eighty one year old president's mental health in
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the wake of his debate debacle last week with former
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: President Trump. Now that there was yet another headline from
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the Washington Examiner which is even more stunning, which is quote,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: top Parkinson's disease specialist visited White House ten times since
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, according.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: To the visitors' logs. And I'm going to.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Read from that story, President, but Joe Biden's physician met
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: with a top Washington, DC neurologists who specialized in Parkin's
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: disease earlier this year. Cannard's name shows up in the
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: visitors logs ten times since November fifteenth, twenty twenty and
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Ron Jackson, who Ronnie Jackson, who now the congressman from Texas,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: a good friend who used to be the White House physician,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: said quote, it is highly likely they were talking about Biden.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: He should only be regularly treating the President and the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: first family. That is the White House physician ten times.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: It's a very simple question. Why do you have a
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: top Parkinson's disease specialist coming to the White House ten
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: times since twenty twenty two.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ten times. So if that is the case, And
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I love how now all of a sudden, the media
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: is doing their job right, Like they're doing their job
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and they're and they're actually digging and they're asking questions.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But it's all they didn't report on that a month ago.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're doing it now, but it's not for
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the right reasons. And that's why I say, don't give
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: them any credit. It's because they've gotten their marching orders
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: from Democratic donors. And the Democratic Party that your job
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: now is to get rid of Joe Biden. I mean
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the Stepanopolis interview. I wanted to give him credit, but
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I know what's happening. I'm not an idiot. This is
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: not the normal George Stepanopolis.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: His job.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: They sent him there to take down Biden, to be
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the hit man to end his presidency. And the way
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he treated him was the way he would treat Donald
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Trump in an interview. It was shocking to watch, but
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: you have to understand they're doing it because they think
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: they're going to lose their power, because they think they're
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: going to lose with Joe Biden.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're panicking. We're seeing Democrats panic, We're seeing the
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: media panic. They want to push Joe out. It's why
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I put the odds at eighty percent. And look over
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: the last week, the drip, drip, drip keeps coming. So
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: The New York Times in this past week reported quote
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: a senior White House official, though unnamed, as telling the
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: New York Times Biden should stand aside. That's a senior
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: White House official in the Biden white House, mind you.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: The Washington Post on July fifth, Senator Mark Warner a
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Democrat works to gather Senate Democrats to ask Biden to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: exit the race. Then, on July seventh, Axios reports that
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: the Democratic senators Biden huddles called off. And here's what
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Axios reported quote, Senate Democrats won't meet Monday to discuss
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: their support for President Biden continuing his reelection bid, despite
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: an effort by Senator Mark Warner to organize such a meeting.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: This every day we have now I think it's five
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Democrat House members who have called for Biden to step down,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: and every day it keeps getting more and more and more,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: and there's nothing that the Biden white House has done
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: to stop the bleeding.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: They've also tried to act like the President's willing to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: do interviews anywhere at any time, and this has now
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: turned into another major problem for this white House. You
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: have one radio host who's now been fired and another
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: one that is under major scrutiny because in two different cities,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: in two different places in America, the same exact interview
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: took place with Joe Biden. CNN calling out one of
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the hosts as they interview these radio hosts who spoke
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: with Biden, and they had these interviews and they knew
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: what they were doing. They heard the questions both interviews
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and separate cities, and they're like, this is the same
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: damn interview happening two times over. And then CNN's like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: all right, we're all in favor of getting Joe Biden out.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: So they called out the White House for this. Take
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: a listen, Andrea.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Let me ask you here about your interviews and something.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: I listened to both of them, and there's something that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: similar here. Each were you asked four questions, and maybe
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: that's what you were allowed to ask by the campaign
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: or the White House, but they were essentially the same questions.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Both interviews about accomplishments progress in your respective state, what's
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: at stake in the election, what he has to say
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: about his debate performance, and what he would say to
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: voters who think their vote doesn't matter or might sit
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: this election out. Were those questions given to you by
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: the White House or did you have for the campaign
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: or did you have to submit questions ahead of this interview?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: The questions were sent to me for approval. I approved
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to them.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Okay, So the White House sent the questions to you
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: ahead of the interview, Yes, okay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I got several questions, eight of them and the four
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: them were.
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: Chosen with the ones that I approved.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Okay, and the reason I ask. It's not a criticism
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: of either view. It's just that if the White House
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: is trying now to.
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: Prove the.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Vim vigor acuity of the president, I don't know how
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: they do that by sending questions first before the interview,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: so that the president knows what's coming.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: The campaign and his statements did not deny providing these
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: questions to that radio show host, but they did add
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: that the interview was not conditioned on acceptance of those questions,
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: and added that the any reporter can ask the questions
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: that they see fit. Now today, the campaign is also
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: saying that they're changing their practices going forward and that
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: they will no longer be recommending questions ahead of interviews.
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: One source familiar with the Biden booking operation over at
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: the campaign said, while interview hosts have always been free
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: to ask whatever questions they please, moving forward, we will
• 29:57
  Speaker 11: refrain from offering suggested questions.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you listen to that, and not only did
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: this one person that was in that interview, that radio
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: host and your lawful Sanders, she's been forced resigned from
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: WRD Radio after admitting her post debate interview with President
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Biden included questions that were pre selected by the Biden
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: campaign team. The station owner said it was furious by
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: this the presidency of the Philadelphia base station, announcing a
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: statement posted on Sunday this the interview featured predetermined questions
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: provided by the White House, which violates our practice of
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: remaining an independent media outlet accountable to our listeners. As
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a result, Miss Lawful Sanders and wr D Radio have
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: mutually agreed to part ways, effective immediately.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: WRD, by the way, is Pennsylvania's only black owned talk
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: radio station. So this was a terrible day for the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: history and heritage of the station to basically realize that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the White House called and said, hey, you want Biden,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: all right, we'll give you Biden on your show and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: give you this press, but only if you ask the
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: four questions that we tell you to ask. And not
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: only do they do it in this city, but they
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: also did it back in Milwaukee as well.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Well. Look a couple observations.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Number one, it's very interesting to know that there are
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: apparently still people at CNN who know how to do journalism.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't think they knew how to do that. But
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: you actually saw, very briefly a CNN journalist asking questions,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: behaving like a real journalist. And you're right, it's because
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: the narrative is shifted and they're now, I think, happy
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: to push Biden out. Two months ago they would not
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: have been willing to do that. But secondly, this thing
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: is utterly corrupt. It shows how completely in bed with
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: the Democrats that the media is. That you have the
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: White House of the campaign and I guess they don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: specify which one it is, giving the questions to the
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: interviewer saying here's what you will ask, which means, by
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: the way, that Joe Biden is probably reading the answers
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: that you know he And it makes you wonder how
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: many other reporters have done that at the White House
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: press briefing when Biden has a list in front of him,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: call on so and so, how many times does he
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: know the question and read the answer to it. And look,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you've worked at media a long time. I've been in
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: the Senate for twelve years. For people listening to this podcast,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: you need to understand this is not normal. It's at
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: least not normal. If you're not a corrupt Democrat.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, look, I do this fair amount
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: with people that I interview right over the years, and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I've had campaigns or officely say, hey, the Senator or
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the congressman or the governor has this piece of legislation,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: if you'd please ask him a question about that. It's
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: something it's very important, and then it's going to be introduced.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm fine with that. But if you gave me
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: four questions to ask and said you get them only,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: if you asked these four questions and these four questions only,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I would tell them to pound sand no matter who
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: it was, because that's not doing an interview. That's that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that that that's a scripted moment. You might as well
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: just have the president sit there at the White House
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and say, here are the four questions are going.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: To answer today that I chose.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it's I've done hundreds of interviews, if not
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: maybe thousands of interviews. I've done a crap ton of interviews. Uh,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: to the best of my knowledge, I've certainly never submitted questions.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: The best of my knowledge, no one on my team has. Now,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: what is typical is what you just said. If you're
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: doing an interview. Let's say I'm going on Hannity. It's
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: typical that that that my press team will talk with
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics. So if you're
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: going to talk about the Biden debate, or if you're
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: going to talk about illegal immigration, or sometimes there's some
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: story that just broke of, like you know, th real
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the or the terrorist you know, being the the eight
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: terrorists suspected terrorists from Tajikistan just released. If there's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: story that just broke the producer will tell my press team, Hey,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Sean wants to ask about this. That's typical, so you
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: have some idea what the topic is you're discussing, so
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: that you can be prepared. But I'll tell you my
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: guess is of the interviews I do, at least half
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: of them, they asked me something that is not a
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: topic that they mentioned at all, So you know, it's
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: it's helpful to have. Okay, if we're going to do Israel,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I should probably be up on the latest developments of
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: what's happened on Israel in the last few days. But
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: it is an absolute violation of journalistic ethics and norms
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: to simply read the questions the campaign handed you, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: and the absolute arrogance that the Biden campaign has that
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: they they fully assume that that that fake journalists will
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: be more than happy to comply.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they're shopping for anyone that will play
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a game at this point. And the worst part for me,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I think is the fact that they did this in
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: response to the debate to try to convince the American
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: people that he is easy on his feet, that he
• 35:20
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  Speaker 2: com slash verdict. Sara, I got two more questions for you,
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  Speaker 2: and it deals again with the media. One the media hypocrisy,
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  Speaker 2: I think is an all time high. But how long
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  Speaker 2: until the media gets back in line and it's business
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  Speaker 2: as usual? How many more days can they continue to
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  Speaker 2: go after Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they
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  Speaker 4: coordinate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall
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  Speaker 4: in line and it will become a straight on cheer leading.
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  Speaker 4: It will be hallelujah, hallelujah. The problems are all solved.
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  Speaker 4: Now we must all vote for either Kamalo or Michelle
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  Speaker 4: Obama and and save America and and stop stop Orange
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  Speaker 4: Man bad. I mean, and the it would be instantaneous.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, let me make a couple of quick
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: more observations on that point. You know, as you and
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead
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  Speaker 4: of time. As I said, I've done a gazillion of
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: them and and and have not had the questions ahead
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  Speaker 4: of time. But you know, I was actually thinking about it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: On this podcast, We've interviewed a bunch of folks. Now
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not a journalist. I don't pretend to be a journalist. Uh,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: but even when we interview people on this podcast, we've
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: never given people of questions ahead of time. And I
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: actually thought back to it to an interview that that
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: that that on this podcast actually but before you were
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: my co host, what it was Michael Doles and me
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: where we interviewed Bill Barr. And we interviewed Bill Barr
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: at the Department of Justice. He was the sitting Attorney General.
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  Speaker 4: And it was interesting. His communication staff was really freaked
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  Speaker 4: out and they were like, Okay, well, well, how's this
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: gonna be and and listen. I've known Bill for twenty
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: years and we're friends, and I'm telling him, relax, I'm
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: not I'm not gonna play games. This, this is not
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: this is not a gotcha interview. This is not trying
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: to you know, go stick it to him. And I didn't,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: but it ended up being It was one of our
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: most listened podcasts we've ever done, in part because Bill
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: was someone who would come across on TV as as
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: as pretty stiff and tight and you know, very controlled,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: and because he and I are friends, he was relaxed
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: and we were cutting up. And Bill as funny as hell.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, he has this wickedly sarcastic sense of humor,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: and and it came out we had a great, free range,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: free ranging interview that look what a podcast is good.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It sounds like a.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Couple of guys sitting at a cafe having dinner and
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and just shooting the bree He's talking about what's going on.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: But even then, with someone I'd known twenty years, I
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: don't even think I told him the topics we were
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: going to discuss. We just sat down and now I
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't playing gotcha games. But that's what we did. But
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: let me make a second point about just how astonishingly
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: rapidly the media can do one hundred and eighty degree reversal.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: and for months and months and months and for years
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: and years and years, the White House narrative and the
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: He struggles with substance abuse, He's a sad soul, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: it's all about him. But they've said he has nothing, nothing,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with the White House. No, no, no, no, no,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: no Hunter, when he was making millions of dollars from
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: every corrupt oligarch in every enemy of America across the planet,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: whether the Chinese Communists or the Russians or what have you,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Hunter is not at all connected to Joe Biden the
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: White House. That's been their their relentless talking point for years. Correct, Yes,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: all right, I want to read you this paragraph from
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Axios on July seventh, Behind the Curtain on bendable Biden
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: versus breaking point Dams quote. We're now in uncharted historic waters.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden, and his
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: convicted son Hunter, who's serving as de facto gatekeeper to
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: his dad, says that nothing besides an act of God
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: will persuade him to quit his reelection campaign. So without
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly admit
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Hunter is quote de facto gatekeeper to his dad. This
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: is the same Hunter who about twelve minutes ago, their
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: walking storyline was no, no, no, no, Hunter's never met Joe Biden.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, they have nothing to do. He doesn't even
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: know where the White House is. No, no, no, no, pay
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: no attention to the man behind the curtain. This is
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: not about Joe Biden and his corruption.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the media. They'll get back in line soon,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: don't worry.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I get stantaneously.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I give him a week and a half, two weeks,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: and then they'll start dialing back the full court press
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: to get Biden out, because they're then going to be
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: afraid maybe we can't get rid of him by when
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: we want to. So we got to pull back a
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: little bit. And I think going into these conventions coming up.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be very interesting to see how they even
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: deal with him if Joe Biden's still there at the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: convention and he's quote still the guy. I also think this,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I gotta ask Ki Bona's question, do you think Donald
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Trump is gonna have to, in essence, just put the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: VP pick on hold until they figure out who they're
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: running against?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: That is an awfully good question.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Look, look away from you
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and I go into the con Yeah. Yeah, we have
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: no idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: sure he does either.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Look, it is not a crazy question to ask.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: VP by the convention, and you know, usually the VP
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: gives a big speech at the convention the day before
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: the president does. It is a tricky question because if
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: you don't know who you're running against, that is certainly
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: a real factor in trying to decide who VP is.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: It would I have not looked at the legal questions
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: at how complicated it would be to dame a VP
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: after the convention, but it would not be insane for
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Trump to delay that choice until he has some real
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: confidence who his opponent's going to be.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where I'm sitting there just scratching my head.
• 43:50
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