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Gray Area Drinking, Wine Mom Culture, and Why Sober Is the New Trench Coat (with Ruby Williams + Susan Larkin of Sober & Lit)
Sober is having a moment. NA beer is outselling the real thing in some markets, Dry January is an industry, and everyone is saying "gray area drinking" like it's new slang. So we brought in two people who've been in this conversation from opposite ends: Ruby Williams spent 20 years in the wine industry. Susan Larkin spent 20 years at Yale School of Medicine. They met as This Naked Mind coaches, became meditation partners, and now host the Sober & Lit podcast, 140 episodes deep.Same landing spot, two totally different rooms. Alysse and Tamar wanted to know what the collision looked like.In…
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