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EP: 78 Mass Shooting // No Government Day 14 Pt 4 · Humanity Unplugged Podcast

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[SPEAKER_12]: What's going on, what's going on, people?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Are you guys doing?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Hopefully you guys had a great weekend despite all of the activities we had this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_12]: For some reason, we had a very, very busy weekend.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I am Germaine McCrimon, this is Humanity Unplug Podcast, and we'd like to thank each and every last one of you guys for commenting, sharing and liking our substance, our information, our
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[SPEAKER_12]: Um, I cannot put it just content in general, because you didn't have to stop by.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You didn't have to comment.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You don't have to download it, but you guys have continually done that continue to download our information on search on these platforms.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I can see it and I just want to say thank you for that because you didn't have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: This weekend, somehow, was a very, very active weekend.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And I said that at the beginning, because I'm used to seeing the shootings, I'm going to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm used to being an active city.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I come from New York.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So it's always active.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Something's always happening.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Somebody's always getting shot.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Somebody's always getting stabbed.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Somebody always getting robbed.
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[SPEAKER_12]: is not new.
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[SPEAKER_12]: If you a new Yorker, you come from the East Coast, you get that type of information.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now, as I ponder and as I look around how things grow, because everything has to grow in life, you have to grow your children grow, your plants, your dogs, your
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[SPEAKER_12]: You like to think that when you grow, it comes with wisdom and knowledge, but unfortunately, time and time again, we do the dumbest stuff when we get older.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We do things that we should think about twice before actually acting, you know, we don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You know, think twice before you make a mistake that you regret for the rest of your life.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Take your time.
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[SPEAKER_12]: This past weekend was homecoming for a lot of universities, a lot of HBC or HSBC colleges, I get it all mixed up at times.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And for a lot of universities, people come out
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[SPEAKER_12]: they enjoy the festivities of home coming, coming back, enjoying the game, cooking out, you know.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You sit around on the de barn fires, campfires, marshmallows, talking, drinking and relaxing.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You watch a couple of games, you know, it's a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_12]: The whole week in his full of activities, maybe the band come out, play some songs, you know, your dance, your shake.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And it's a beautiful environment, you know?
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[SPEAKER_12]: people want to step out and get active.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But out of Mississippi, Mississippi,
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[SPEAKER_12]: out there at that university, you know, people began to get active, you know, they started shooting, which is horrible, I think that's terrible.
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[SPEAKER_12]: People got nine, you know, I think about six people, six to four people were shot.
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[SPEAKER_12]: All together, I believe, nine were shot this weekend or more.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And like six to seven people died.
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[SPEAKER_12]: uh, even cops were shot this weekend out in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's just a sad thing to see that people take the time to do something so cool at a family activity like homecoming.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So we're going to do a little bit of that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We're going to do some, um,
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[SPEAKER_12]: checking into the government and what's left to talk about with the shutdown because when you look at the shutdown the shutdown is just it's going on a second week and I said this before my first reports to be the fourth part I'm doing today with that the government is not going to reach any agreements between democratic and republicans at this present time and
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[SPEAKER_12]: There's too much and no one's interested in doing it.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You got it.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's a holiday today, government holiday or whatever today.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And people are not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now, this recording is done on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So when you guys get it on Tuesday, won't be a holiday or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But this is another day that they take off.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And they don't do anything too much.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So what are you going to get out of today?
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[SPEAKER_12]: maybe you talk a little bit, but for the most part half of the parties are not in there Republican or Democratic, they're just not there.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So what's going to happen?
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[SPEAKER_12]: You know, the big thing now with that is
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[SPEAKER_12]: on the TSA and all these small federal employees, are they gonna still be getting a check?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Can they cut a check now?
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[SPEAKER_12]: We're in the second week of it, the money being cut off, government shut down, can you get a check?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Can a check be cut?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Do you gonna do you all the American people?
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[SPEAKER_12]: a retro check or a check for days, they worked and not being paid.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Is that going to happen?
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[SPEAKER_12]: And certain people look into this and say, Oh, well, you know, that's already cut.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's there.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And the reality to it is up to the government.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They want to do it or not.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And writing is speaks about people getting paid, but it doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_12]: necessarily say you entitle to our retro check or check for the hours you worked when the government is shut down and don't say that literally.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And that's the thing with the government.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They like all this interpretation of BS to go through a politics.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So it depends on the person.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's crazy because if he interpreted wrong, you don't get paid if he's in a good feeling or they feel good about it and they pay you that's all this has come down to and that's all if he's for the people you get something he's not for the people you don't get nothing is that simple so if and they don't want to tell you it's like that, but that's the way it is.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_12]: First thing we're going to talk about is what happened in Mississippi, Mississippi, Leeland, Mississippi, University out there.
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[SPEAKER_12]: People got shot, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It wasn't cute.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You know, loss of life is exactly that, loss of life.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And, you know, it's not cool.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So here we go.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This morning, nine people are dead and dozens more hurt after three separate shootings in Mississippi.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All of them happening during homecoming celebrations.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now the FBI is getting involved in one shooting where the search is still long for the suspects.
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[SPEAKER_16]: And you were standing next to somebody and you seen somebody or you seen somebody who don't actually have any foot there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Social media footage capture and love ones outside the Delta Health Systems Medical Center, the night of the Leeland homecoming mass shooting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We asked the public.
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[SPEAKER_03]: recognize that they have a role in this investigation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The FBI's Jackson Field Office is leading the investigation alongside state and local law enforcement, asking for the public's help to identify these four people they say are connected to the shooting.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So they got four people that's connected to the shooting, this one particular incident.
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[SPEAKER_12]: As you heard with the lady said, three different shootings.
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[SPEAKER_12]: in Mississippi alone.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And it's crazy, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Like what they're doing out there.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Why are we so active out there?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Like why?
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[SPEAKER_12]: And we shoot now on people like, and you're doing that at a home coming out of little events like what what's the need for that?
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[SPEAKER_12]: What we talking about?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Could they will argument?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Share.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Give us that opportunity to get these subjects off the street.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The FBI Jackson has also established the digital media tips website to collect any video or photos from anyone that was at the intersection of Forbes Street and North Main Street on Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_18]: It was one in front of the pier.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like Mill Dritt Michael.
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[SPEAKER_18]: All you saw was people sitting down or standing around crying because they were starting to identify the different people that were laid out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And so far, Leland's fire chief confirmed the mass shooting took six lives with at least six others in critical condition.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Did he hear anything?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Did he hear anything?
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[SPEAKER_13]: I heard it we morning, they were about to get morning.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You know, even for the people, there's not from the, you know, you don't know why Missouri will happen, you know?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Officials say more casualties are possible as the investigation continues, but the search remains active tonight for this woman in a white t-shirt, a man in an orange jacket, another man in an orange and white jogging suit, in the man in a black graphic tee, all seen in the area, the moments gunfire let out.
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[SPEAKER_18]: We're gonna rise again.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Accommodities are gonna get past this, we're gonna heal together, like we've always done.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So, you know, let's have a beautiful sister that's speaking about it and she's trying to let everyone know that no matter what they will recover and they will get back to some type of peace and normalcy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And that's a good thing, you know, I think that's great that she did that and she spoke positive about the situation.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We know there's a reason, but is there really a reason?
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[SPEAKER_12]: There's no real reason for killing somebody.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Taking life, a loss of life is actually what it is.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And it's not cool, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Here go to the next one, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Check it out, listen up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: More tonight on the deadly shooting that happened and S.C.
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[SPEAKER_02]: State's campus as investigators are still searching for whoever is involved in two shootings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'll happen to an S.C.
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[SPEAKER_02]: State's home come in festivities on Saturday, Abra Alis, Pymatell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are new spoke to the mayor of Orangeburg and resident to express concerns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Abra Alis, what can you tell us?
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[SPEAKER_09]: people who live in the area tell me they're hoping whoever's responsible is brought to justice soon.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Orangeberg Mayor Michael Butler says he's not tolerating any of that type of behavior.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We just had finished up a good day.
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[SPEAKER_15]: I was in the parade.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We had hundreds of people lined up down the streets, celebrating, Southwestern homecoming.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We got on the campus and we were getting ready to have the football game.
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[SPEAKER_15]: And after the football game, this occurred.
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[SPEAKER_15]: And we said to our sales, oh my God, after a good day, milk would have happened.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Orangeburg mayor Michael Butler speaking out after the shooting death of 19-year-old Julia Butler.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Butler was one of the victims in two shootings that happened on campus during South Carolina States homecoming Saturday night.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So the young Galady Butler Laws of Life at the homecoming at South Carolina State University.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And it's so sad, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: 19 Yo, she did nothing but just she's 19.
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[SPEAKER_12]: God.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Like that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That right there, just think about that 19 and you got shot and killed.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Another man is in critical condition.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Mayor Butler says the community is saddened, but an incident like this could have happened anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_15]: It's not gonna be tolerated here in this city.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We all have learned from this.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We learn, just stay together, but we learn also what we can do to keep us together.
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[SPEAKER_15]: And now we might be able to solve everything, but I think that some new measures are gonna be put in place so that those students can be safe and the fact of this step and our visitors.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Butler says one isolated incident should not define the city of orangeburg or South Carolina the state.
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[SPEAKER_09]: A person who lives in the area agrees and says it's not the people who live here that threatened their safety.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Let charged 18 year old Matthew McCoy in the shooting.
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[SPEAKER_09]: According to a report from sled, McCoy pointed a gun at another man and shot two times after watching an argument between two groups of people online.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You see that?
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[SPEAKER_12]: So McCoy, 18 year old, he sees somebody
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're going to get guns, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's certainly I'm going to get my gun.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to finish this off.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to take care of this crazy, man.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I record show he is now free on bail.
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[SPEAKER_09]: People in the community say they'll feel better when the people responsible are held accountable.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Community.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You see that?
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[SPEAKER_12]: You see that?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Did y'all listen to that?
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[SPEAKER_12]: He goes shoot somebody.
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[SPEAKER_12]: He go get his gun and his family go bail him out.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's the damn problem.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's the damn problem.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Let us ask sit up in there because he didn't want to went and got the gun.
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[SPEAKER_12]: He didn't want pull the trigger.
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[SPEAKER_12]: What's your pet on the mouth for?
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's why they can't learn nothing.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's exactly why.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You got to teach your kids at the early age.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You do the time.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You do the crime.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You do the time.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You do something like that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And you want your family to come bail you out?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Spore a last mama's boy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Daddy's baby.
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[SPEAKER_12]: This is why they go out here doing that thinking they're invincible.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They can't do no wrong.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Please, it's so sad.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Very sad about it.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And we all concern about it because we hope that if you get the results done.
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[SPEAKER_09]: students, they're ready to go back to class one day with enhanced security.
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[SPEAKER_14]: I feel that our voices were heard more with the town hall meeting, letting us express how we wanted to feel more safe on campus and put up more barriers around for people who are not supposed to be on campus to walk around.
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[SPEAKER_14]: So I feel like the police department on campus is doing better about standing on post.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Watch Fox news reached out to sled on Tuesday about the investigation to ask if there were multiple shooters on campus, and if they found the person responsible for Julia's death, and sled tells us that this is an active and ongoing investigation, more information will become available as the case continues.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So, you know, you heard that, you know, they're saying that, you know, more to come.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But if the kid did it or the kid wouldn't got a gun, what would we be on my floor?
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[SPEAKER_12]: This is why you think he's invisible.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Go on to get guns at a homecoming.
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[SPEAKER_12]: What made you have to go get a gun?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Out of all the people, what made you go get a gun?
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[SPEAKER_12]: This is the problem.
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[SPEAKER_12]: This is actually why we had a problem we have in our world.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They fill this up to them to represent represent what what you're representing what you're doing So say it man Life lost she'll never come back and now you appear getting bailed out for the dumb stuff you doing Hmm It doesn't stop y'all hey go another one Here you go another one and doesn't stop This is a little different though
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[SPEAKER_04]: a new view of the moment to officers come under fire, also in arresting development, the brother of the man who police say shot it officers is now behind bars.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get right to seven.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Faith Graham live in Miami with this new video.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Faith.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, that is some chilling new video all of it taking place right here outside this alipadahome.
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[SPEAKER_08]: This was the site of yesterday's swamp stand up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's here that one brother is helping out in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I only to later died in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, the other brother.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Out in Miami, brother, two brothers had a little argument, whatever, one brother went back to his house, he chilled, the other brother went back with mom and dad house, he chilled, no big deal.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But when they went outside, cops came around, because of this agreement, they seen one of the brothers' cars out there.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And here we go.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The other involved in this investigation is now on your arrest.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Gunshots ringing out, new video shared with seven news showing neighbors and police running for cover.
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[SPEAKER_08]: As Thursday's swat situation began in Alephata, this new video comes as police say 38-year-old Alan Triana, the brother of the gunman, was placed under arrest Thursday night.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It all happened at this home on Northwest 26th Street.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The house left torn apart.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Police say the chaos was sparked by a fight between the two brothers.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you don't believe me, don't believe me.
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[SPEAKER_08]: 27 year old Mason Triana would not survive.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It all started when officers discovered Triana's abandoned car in the middle of the road near his home on Northwest 26th Street off 15th Avenue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It all started with some sort of episode this morning.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The officers called a toe and left only to get a shot spot or alert for the same location.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They begin to receive shots.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Police, Adriana, fired at the six responding officers with an assault rifle, striking two of them in the ankle and knee.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Only seven news there, as that wounded officer with 17 years on the force, hobbled through the doors of Jackson Rider Trauma Center.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And seconds before that, a male sergeant also hit.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Their injuries sparking a huge display of support.
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[SPEAKER_08]: At the same time, Triana then barricaded himself inside his home.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So two officers got shot one in a leg.
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[SPEAKER_12]: The other one didn't say where he got shot the sergeant.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Hopefully they have a speedy recovery.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It is 17 years.
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[SPEAKER_12]: One officer, she might get promoted after she gets shot.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's normally what happens.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I say that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I know you guys think I'm just talking.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But most of the time after you get shot, they promote you to investigation, you know, you're detective, you might go to sergeant, you might go to Lieutenant because they know you got the time and being as she does have 17 years in.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm quite sure she might have had the opportunity to move up, but who knows, but definitely responding to a call and getting shot and missed up responding to the call or get you a promotion and majority of the majority of the police department.
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[SPEAKER_08]: As SWAT team swarmed locking down the neighborhood at one point, he's seen waving from behind to gate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the shooter came out and engaged the officers was an exchange of gunfire the standoff ultimately ending around eleven a.m.
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[SPEAKER_08]: after officer sent a drone inside the home the offender and shooter in the senate up here to be down we don't know if it was our exchange of gunfire or if it was self-inflicted at this time amid the standoff allen triana showed up to the crime scene police say they later found several guns at his home
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now, the question is, his brother lived on a block.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Guys, which I don't know is that the brother of the man who got killed was down the block from where his brother shot on swat, you know, stand off with swat.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So his brothers in another house with his parents and their listening or they were watching the shootout.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So now, why did his brother all of a sudden come out to the house and go down there and now he's so concerned about his brother?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Fool, your brother don't got shot all up now.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You should have been trying to get him to get off the ledge before you did all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And now you get yourself involved and now you go get arrested.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Tell me how smart that is.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Tell me a you want to be I can let my brother go out like that and tell me where it's smart.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I don't understand at which point he was arrested.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And right now we have new details on Alan Triana's role, while he initially surrendered himself Thursday morning.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He was later released, then police attempted to track him down again to question him about a rifle using the shooting earlier in the day.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Eventually they say they made contact with him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: At that point though, they say he shouted at them, and that's when they noticed he was holding a white bag with a rifle hanging out of it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He was then placed under arrest, and he is now facing
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[SPEAKER_08]: several charges including attempted tampering with physical evidence possession of armor piercing ammunition and improper exhibition of a firearm he's currently being held at QGK still this morning.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We also haven't update on those two officers who were taken to the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We're told the female officer has been released while the male officer is still there being treated.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So that's good that they you know they're going to be
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're trying to say the brother was active doing this shooting also.
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[SPEAKER_12]: He was like helping his brother in the standoff with white.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And they believe the rifle he had.
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[SPEAKER_12]: will show that matching bullets or whatever that was recovered from the incident once it was killed, you know, once everything shut down, they believed that the evidence proven will show that as well.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So that's probably why they went back at him to keep that information.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And I just want to give you a little small snippet of our government and was
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's just what it is.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's our government, you know, you can't, you can't knock it, you just got it, you know, it's our government.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: as the government shut down stretches into its second week.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the ripple effect is growing federal workers, families, even small businesses are feeling the impact as services slow down and some of those paychecks stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but a new question is emerging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will federal workers actually be paid for the days they've lost?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jullisa Garza is alive with the latest on this controversial debate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jullisa, what's happening?
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[SPEAKER_10]: pay you go to you well what was once a given in past shutdowns is now actually being questioned now federal workers who have been working without pay or on unpaid leave are now facing a little bit of uncertainty and questioning if whether or not they'll receive any of their back pay once the government reopens and critics are now sounding the alarm on a new administration memo that could change the way things have operated for the past shutdowns now this is what happened here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Since the 2019 government employee Fair Treatment Act, the norm has become that furloughed federal workers and essential employees working without pay are guaranteed retroactive pay once funding is restored.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But a draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget now questions that automatic guarantee.
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[SPEAKER_10]: arguing Congress must approve back pay in new legislation.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The memo suggests that the 2019 law might be authoritative, but not self-executing.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Meaning it doesn't mandate payment and less funds are appropriated.
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[SPEAKER_10]: This is raised alarm among labor groups who argued denying back pay would be immensely cruel to workers who had no control over the shutdown.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So I asked our political analyst, Brendan Roddinghouse, is it legal to withhold that back pay?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So the law reads that they have to get paid, but there is still an interpretation from the White House that suggests that they might not be doing the job that they're supposed to do, so they shouldn't get paid for doing it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You heard that?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a little bit wrong.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Did you hear that?
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[SPEAKER_12]: They had work, not a White House, but what do they double down to say, well, maybe they did, they just saying doing nothing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I tell you, I government is crazy man strictly they want to enforce that because it's obviously politically risky to tell the American people that the Republicans want to clean resolution, but then drop a bunch of things off of the budget when there's not any kind of functioning government.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So there's a lot of sort of difficulty to sort out, but at least in principle, this is really a threat.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The White House is being effective at using and they can use this as a pressure point.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I try to get Democrats to negotiate table.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Now we know that military members will be getting some of that pay, that was new news over the weekend, that they are finding some funding that was there that they can use to pay some of the military service members back.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And last week we talked about a CBS news poll that showed nearly half of the American St.
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[SPEAKER_10]: neither party's position is worth the government shut down, and a majority of them just approve how Congress
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[SPEAKER_10]: and the president are handling this now coming up in the next hour.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We'll hear more from our political analyst, Brandon Roddinghouse on how many Americans feel they're caught in the middle of this shut down feeling those everyday ripple effects and also feeling like political ponds as lawmakers continue this standoff for an hour.
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[SPEAKER_12]: there you have it she's not playing very good information right there man she was flawless really enjoyed listening to her well guys my conclusion to all this when you come to the home coming
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[SPEAKER_12]: you cannot stop that from happening too much.
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[SPEAKER_12]: A lot of times when outsiders come around, you know, they selling stuff.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're doing what they do.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're trying to make money.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They got people that's already there that selling they stuff.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And no one's telling you about this, but drugs are being, there's a lot of drugs transaction being done at home coming.
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[SPEAKER_12]: a lot of weed is being sold and they got people bringing in weed from all over and they're smoking they're trying to sell weed on the same turf as the people that's already dead and they will bump heads.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Things like that does happen.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now when it comes to
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[SPEAKER_12]: sometimes these police incidents, brothers do have debates, family members have arguments, you're always going to get these isolated incidents where, you know, things go left.
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[SPEAKER_12]: The brother snapped and he just was not having it, he says he's ready to go all out and he thought he was down with, you know, the real SWAT team that came out and he wanted to put it to the test.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They drove a whole big truck right through his front yard and then they emptied them out with drones and they end up killing them.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And it's not worth it.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And that's the conclusion that it's not worth it, man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You didn't have to shoot at the cops at all, technically.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Cops didn't know what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They pulled up to that area and saw his car with bullets in it or whatever the case may be.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, they would have came to your house eventually, once they know the cause, register.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But who said you had to answer?
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[SPEAKER_12]: You could have asked like he wasn't home.
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[SPEAKER_12]: No one in that gone breaking to your house.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You didn't kill nobody.
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[SPEAKER_12]: At that point, you didn't shoot nobody, didn't do nothing.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Copstays just came to check out the call.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But you, you know, when you know about it, you do better.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now life is lost, family, you'll never get this son again.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And a lot of times, guys, when it comes to these incidents like home, coming, and also these shootings and things like that, you never can replace the life loss.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Is it worth it?
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[SPEAKER_12]: I tell you absolutely no.
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[SPEAKER_12]: is it worth doing home coming knowing that people going to die or might have an incident?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Well, you know, people going to say you can't live in fear.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You post it, still plan it and do what you need to do.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yes, you can't live in fear and yes, to show must go on.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But you just got to be more aware.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And also try to control the outside people coming around.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now, as they said, none of this took place on the campus.
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[SPEAKER_12]: People got shot, but not on the campus.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But yet, people were on the campus that didn't belong on the campus.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So, and of course, if doing homecoming, that's going to happen, right?
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[SPEAKER_12]: So, you got to try to, uh,
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[SPEAKER_12]: minimize the people going back and forth today cars.
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[SPEAKER_12]: See, that's where it comes from.
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[SPEAKER_12]: See, you go to the metal detector.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Let me get you a little bit of information before I let you guys go.
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[SPEAKER_12]: When you go to home coming, you do things like that.
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[SPEAKER_12]: The first run through is a dry run.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So people that's coming in to do wrong, got to, got to test
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[SPEAKER_12]: and see what's going on around.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They got to do a little dry run.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So they're going through the matter of the tech that's if it's any and they're going around looking around to see what's going on and see where the hot point is.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're going to do a look out to see where the problem is see who's selling we see with it, you know, where the people are at.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That's the dry run they do now if they able to go back to the car and come back without any resistance that's the second test so not they know they could just bring me stuff in with no resistance at all nobody's checking us again.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We don't have to go through the matter detector.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We don't have to do none of this the second time always on so now
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[SPEAKER_12]: When you decide to do whatever you want to do, I'll see your app as they would say.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You go to the car, you get what you need to get, and you now know where you're going to leave from, you now know where police is, you now know where the resistance and the force is.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So you act accordingly, that's why they can't, that's why they didn't catch them.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Because they scoped the place out before they acted.
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[SPEAKER_12]: This real clean is clear.
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[SPEAKER_12]: guarantee you one of the students that's probably didn't know them.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Because they might have told me, yeah, we got home coming coming up.
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[SPEAKER_12]: We got this weed out here, but I know you're we better man.
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[SPEAKER_12]: What you come down here, this is all my assumption.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know if this happened or not.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Just me, just me, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_12]: But it goes down like this.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And then it turns left.
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[SPEAKER_12]: because they don't have the argument, both the head, aren't yours.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You can't sell no weed here.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Don't tell me what I can't do.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Didn't even want to go one of his young bulls.
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[SPEAKER_12]: He's sitting out there at 18.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yo, yo, go get Sammy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Sammy's really the gun.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So he runs out there.
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[SPEAKER_12]: He starts, you know, and this will happen.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So, no more wrong guys.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Please just be careful.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Pay attention to who selling weed and trying to be around them.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's trying to be around the people that's doing narcotics or doing the drugs because if you're around them, if they got me up, you're going to get the smoke that this for them, you're going to get it.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And both of us don't have any names on it, you have to know that, right?
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[SPEAKER_12]: So they can aim at them, but they can travel all the places.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm your host, Germaine McCrimon.
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[SPEAKER_12]: This is a man of the unplugged podcast.
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[SPEAKER_12]: God bless, I see you later, peace.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And remember guys, protect your own at all costs.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Peace.