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Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast
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Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast47. Stars, They're Not Like Us
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah watched the Harry and Meghan series on Netflix so you…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast46. Sex Cults and Twitter Files
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe New York Times stages a (one-day!) strike, and Nancy and Sarah…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast45. Baby, Remember Our Names
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comPerformer Irene Cara died this week, but what was she doing before…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast44. Thanksgiving Blue-Plate Special!
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy and Sarah talk Thanksgiving turkeys — both the actual food, and…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast43. How To Solve a Problem Like Candace Owens?
We weren’t thrilled by the idea of covering Candace Owens’ new documentary on George Floyd. Sarah was so nervous to log onto Daily Wire, you’d think she was…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast42. Democracy Lives in Darkness!
Why is Nancy in Tel Aviv? Was it Nick Gillespie or the ghost of Michael Moynihan who gave Sarah COVID? We dive into the mid-terms, or “the normie elections,”…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast41. Truth, Consequences, and "Shitty Media Men"
It’s hard to overstate the impact of the Shitty Media Men List on the media landscape back in October 2017. If you’ve never heard of it, good for you (not said…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast40. Radical Empathy
Hey Smokers! Zoom hang #1, Wednesday, October 19, at 9pm ET. Paid subscribers get a link emailed day-of. Not yet a subscriber? Let’s fix that!Nancy and Sarah…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast39. The Dahmer Dilemma
Sarah finally caved and watched Ryan Murphy’s Jeffrey Dahmer series, the second most-popular show in Netflix history. (Can you guess the first?). It was…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast38. Men Are Very Necessary
We talk men: They’re falling behind in school, crunched (or checked out) in the labor market, confused about their purpose. Not all men (of course, of course)…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast37. On 'Blonde' and Bourdain
The NC-17 Blonde has hit Netflix, and boy, are people fired up (“necrophiliac entertainment” wrote Manohla Dargis at NYT). At nearly three hours, the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast35. Women vs. Women! Girls Against Boys! It’s Cage Fight 2022 (with Russian Trolls)
Sarah interrupts Madame Nancy in the middle of a seance, but hey, no better time for a podcast. After a brief discussion of their top five liquids (inspired by…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastA Ukrainian Leaves the War for New York
Nancy Rommelmann was fortunate, through accident and the fog of war, to stay with Oksana Hutnyk and her family in Lviv, Ukraine this past March, two weeks…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast34. When Do-Gooders Do Bad Things
Nancy’s reporting from Portland, where tragedy struck after a man accused of domestic abuse was bailed out by an activist organization. Sarah’s reporting from…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast33. Go Ahead and Worry, Darling
It was hard to be a person on the Internet last week without getting sucked into the sordid drama of Don’t Worry Darling, whose premiere at the Venice Film…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast32. The Hoax Heard Round the World
Mikhail Gorbachev’s passing reminds Sarah of one of the strangest assignments of her career: Interviewing the man who presided over the end of the Cold War ……
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastThe Camera and The Audience
Adventures in failing to become a movie star, from chocolate "blood" squirted onto peignoirs to having a Times Square "agent" ask me to stand on his chest…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast31. The Fashion of Feminist Crank
Linda Evangelista’s appearance on the cover of British Vogue sparks controversy over beauty and fantasy. The ladies discuss "quiet quitting": Is it good, bad…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast30. Filling the Hole: Sex, Love and What Lies Beneath
“I Regret Being a Slut” is the provocative title of an essay published this week by writer and podcaster Bridget Phetasy, who writes, of her earlier sexual…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast29: Tell Me More, Tell Me More edition: Life after Roe and Olivia Newton-John
We look at a post-Roe landscape, as Nancy talks about a recent reporting trip to Kansas to cover a surprising vote, where citizens affirmed the right for women…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast28. The Things We Do For Love
“I don’t need any more reasons to hate the human race,” a friend said, about his aversion of watching the new Netflix series “The Most Hated Man on the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastDown That Dark Passage: Kathyrn Miles of "TRAILED: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders"
As I wrote a few months ago, with regard to true crime books, "All stories are worth telling well, but especially the difficult ones, when we need the writer's…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast27. Trash-Talking the Boss (and Other Questionable Strategies)
A New Yorker employee slags the company for lack of diversity on Twitter, and things get messy from there. Nancy and Sarah try to untangle the strange case of…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast26. Everybody’s Broken, Everyone’s Connected: It’s TV Week
It’s mid-July. Sarah’s sizzling in the hell mouth that is Dallas, Nancy’s mired in NYC’s hot human grime, and both think it’s a really good idea to stay inside…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast25. Free Speech, Free Love
Does college need to be reimagined? A new experimental university committed to free speech called the University of Austin drew mockery on Twitter when it was…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast24. Let's Get Ready to Rumble
Are land acknowledgments meant to honor Indigenous people little more than feel-good gestures? Is wanting to be a TikTok star the impulse to be acknowledged?…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast23. The Lost Art of Forgiveness
Did forgiveness go out of style? Nancy and Sarah want to bring it back. We talk about a current vogue for vengeance in the “progressive id” and where it may…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastOn Movie Stars and How I Got These Scars: An Audio Story for a Breaking Heart
Nancy here. After receiving a heartbroken text from Sarah a little ways back, I sent a pep-up message and a power pop playlist, which I made when writing the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast22. Roe v. the World
We knew it was coming, but the overturning of Roe v. Wade is still huge news, and sadly for Sarah, it’s too hot to smoke. (Pardon the coughing.) Let’s talk…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast21. The Destruction of Others
Did you know we’ve started “Smokeshow Specials” for subscribers to answer your burning questions? We’re just getting started. Sarah sings the praises of…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastAUDIO: The Agony and the Ecstasy of Depp v. Heard
For those of you who prefer to listen to your longform narratives, we offer this low-fi audio recording of the essay I wrote on the Depp-Heard trial, which you…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast19. The Celebrity Delusion
We start with a discussion of Sarah’s Depp-Heard opus, “The Agony and the Ecstasy of Depp v. Heard,” about which one reader on Twitter commented, “This is a…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastDouble Play: Sonmez Out at WaPo, Boudin Out as SF DA
Hello lovely Smoke ‘Em people, Nancy here with a newsletter/update-y thingy. It’s been a BIZZEE week (not to be confused with the greatly-named WaPo executive…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast18. Prison of Our Own Making
Can we talk about that Deep End finale? The saga of Teal Swan comes to a riveting close, and we discuss a group therapy session turned exercise in projection…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast17. We Regret This Episode
Journalism is having a hell of a week. At least, the Washington Post is. Nancy and Sarah launch with the curious case of tech reporter Taylor Lorenz and her…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast16. Defamed
Nancy is reporting from San Francisco, because your roving journos go where the story leads, whether that’s a discount motel room in Fairfax, Virginia, or a…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast15. Robert De Niro Is Sexy Full Stop
It’s the day after Memorial Day, and we reflect on our distance from military conflict and Sarah’s first podcast-related injury. After revealing our new summer…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast14. Bad Wives Club
After Sarah makes Nancy blush by talking about vibrators, we turn to the buzz that is Depp v. Heard. Kate Moss, TMZ leaks, potential ethical violations on the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastMeet the best reporter on Depp v. Heard
by Sarah HepolaI met Nick Wallis in the cafeteria of the Fairfax, VA, courtroom on my first day. I was still looking for the gaggle of reporters I assumed I’d…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast13. The Villains We Needed
Nancy and Sarah launch by talking about a slavering press desperate for sensational stories — but we’re not discussing today’s climate, we’re talking about the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast12. From the Trenches of Depp-Heard
From a motel room five miles from the site of Depp v. Heard in suburban Virginia, Sarah describes the fascinating culture around the courthouse: The…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast11: Her Food Is the Misery of Others: Female Con Artist Edition!
It’s the morning after the Super Flower Blood Moon, Sarah needs to pack for the Depp-Heard trial in Virginia, and Nancy’s in a hotel bed in Austin, but first!…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast10: Fabulists!
Sarah goes deep on the Duke lacrosse rape scandal — the complicated true story, the troubled woman who filed the claims, the abdication of due process, and the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastThe Smoking Diaries: Voice Memos of a Woman Traveling Alone
by Sarah Hepola It was my third morning at an Austin spa so dedicated to self-care they charged $375 if you lit up a cigarette. The sky was still dark, and I…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast9: Hollywood's New McCarthy Era
Nancy and Sarah tackle the curious case of Frank Langella, the celebrated actor fired from Netflix’s Fall of the House of Usher after a young actress complains…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em PodcastWhat Man Can Do To Man: 13 True Crime Books That Get it Right (audio!)
Live, from Chinatown NYC, a reading of this past weekend’s essay about the best of the best true crime books. Just want the list? That’s below, with links…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast8. What Do Women Want?
After a ten-minute chat on why we love boobs (any size), Nancy gives an update on the Vicky White/Casey White jail break, and Sarah brings us up to date on the…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast7. True Crimes of the Heart
Prison escapes, death row visits, and how to handle (and not handle) homicide. No it’s not an episode of one of those murder-as-snack podcasts, it’s Sarah and…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast6. Does Twitter Suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder?
A forensic psychologist says Amber Heard has borderline personality disorder, and Nancy and Sarah diagnose social media with the same. Also on the docket…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast5. You're the Man Now
Welcome to episode 5 (previous episodes archived here), wherein six hours after recording in Paloma Media with the Fifth Column boys, Sarah has to make do with…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast4: The World is Not Full of Monsters! Rommelmann and Hepola Discuss
Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola are back! Talking about: + Why they love the Ben Dreyfuss essay "The World is Not Full of Monsters" + Who they listen to in…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast3: Entanglements! Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola Take On Hollywood
Entanglements, they're everywhere! In this episode, Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola look at: + The Will Smith-Jada Pinkett Smith turmoil + The Johnny…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast2: Cheerleaders and Buzzer Beaters: Sarah Hepola Redux!
Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola hop back into the studio to talk Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, faking orgasms, crying (women v. men), why young Ben Franklin is…
Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast1: Blackouts and Sexpots: Sarah Hepola
Journalist, author, and podcast series creator Sarah Hepola and Nancy Rommelmann met online two weeks ago and decided they needed to speak for about 80 hours…