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Commanders-Vikings Post Game Recap · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sir, I'm back to another episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome back to a better episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You must know my intro.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So another episode of Travelling that podcast.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I am your host of the Travelling that podcast moly moly AJ's in here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The game just ended 31.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then watching this shut out the week after Minnesota gets shut out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, this was a game fellas first and foremost.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I hope you all don't will.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just was a game fellas where you know
2:20
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the optimism from majority of the fan base was censored around the offense finally getting its pieces back and looking like a semblance of what they would have looked like the entire season, right?
2:38
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, you get no way back.
2:40
[SPEAKER_06]: You get Terry back.
2:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, Zachers has been around.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And guess who just he's probably done for the season.
2:45
[SPEAKER_06]: If you seen that injury.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, so now Zachers is gone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, did you see did you see did you see the replay a day Zach earth is going to be spending time with his family for the rest of his life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's never playing football again.
3:00
[SPEAKER_04]: The only way he would vote for is on Madden.
3:03
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you, AJ, that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm saying, he ain't coming back.
3:08
[SPEAKER_06]: That's, that's my point.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's, you think that you think that, you know, he's, he's, uh, you get your team back.
3:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, offensively, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You get some type of familiarity, um, and you want to see what that looks like, the final stretch of the season.
3:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and then you go into a game where it's like you know you're going to be getting a party office, but if you if you're smart enough, you know that that defense ain't to be fun with.
3:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that boy on that defensive side of the boat, he had done and that unit is still a dog.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So you know like there's a given take like you want to see these guys and their full strength offensively and then you know the Minnesota Vikings are coming off a ass whipping but their defense is still some dogs and your defense is just as questionable
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[SPEAKER_06]: and you lose about thirty one points.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, let me be score point all the day watching this blank thirty one nothing fellas.
4:03
[SPEAKER_06]: The floor is yours.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Here you got a let me let me let me get my spell out the way, but that's all like I do to me my skill on the way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Then you can talk man because I know you'd be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's a very big thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a very big thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a very big thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, you got time for all that man.
4:29
[SPEAKER_04]: This is this is spend the spend time with your family Then are at four o'clock on Sunday, bro.
4:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the things that happen when you have a good woman in your life, man You you eat you eat early dinners like a call case.
4:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Jay.
4:51
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hear you stand a background somewhere, so he don't even want all the people all the big enough became We are propaganda I at least got talking about some positive, that's the only positive right now because like I said I showed a plate again, show the plate again, bro, show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show your show
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[SPEAKER_03]: Stairfront was that noodles or rice will we know when I'm having Terriakio soy sauce
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you see it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we see it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Are you good now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's the like to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, so Zach Urs is going to get a lot of time to spend with his family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Eat the same kind of meals I'm eating because of the ball and the Marcus Mary Ota through to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But at the end of the day, watching the community season as a fan, is at the point where you should just go spend time with your family.
5:51
[SPEAKER_04]: On Sundays, just spend time with your family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go to church, go sit in the three hour session,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Whatever it is, take your kids out to Tyson's quote.
6:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tom McMills.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've ever seen more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Easy plaza.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just go spend time with your family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do something else because what happened today was done by the court.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what Bryan Flores defense is gonna do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know that is gonna send pressure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know it's gonna come from different points.
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[SPEAKER_04]: At no point that I've really seen Cliff have a strategy of slowing down that past for us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even because they were being productive in the first person of the game running the ball because they don't play on the center, you can't even play action off of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like it does nobody good and
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[SPEAKER_04]: You already kind of known the tone that the game was going to go when you're at the one yard line and you can't convert for a touchdown like you did three, three past and plays in a row like I know we talked privately and y'all would like, you know, D. Boe should have called it.
6:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he should have called the ball, but it should have never even came down to that situation or him being on and forth down having to make that completion at the one yard line.
7:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can, you can say bullshit, whatever, but that's just my personal feeling like, but if you have a conversation agent, if you have a dual threat quarterback, bro, that is dynamic with the ball of his hands.
7:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And on top of that, you're running back, got you down there by running the ball because he's a power back, a power back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't even give him a
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[SPEAKER_04]: an ample enough like chances to score.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Nor you could even do the quarterbacks and even if you don't feel comfortable with Jayden doing and bringing Mario to do it, something.
7:40
[SPEAKER_04]: But you dial up a plate of those to the Brandon Coleman and the Razum come on, then defensively is like Dan Quinn had no answer for KOC.
7:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you want Jayden McCarthy to have to beat you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that means you should be all in on stopping the run.
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[SPEAKER_04]: like that should be your full commitment stopping the run, but they were able to get a aggressive running the ball and productive and that put a message away.
8:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you said stopping the run.
8:07
[SPEAKER_04]: You talking about for, I'm talking about, I'm talking about Washington's defense like that that should have been the main focus of stopping Minnesota's run because Jason McCarthy needs that to be able to play off for it.
8:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know, at the end of the day, huh?
8:24
[SPEAKER_06]: I was, I don't know about that, bro, because like you still, you still want to be against Jake Jettison and Jordan Hadison and TJ Hoggison.
8:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you, you, you, you four, and JJ McCarthy to beat you with those weapons and you know, you, you limited on the outside, bro.
8:36
[SPEAKER_06]: You still want to get to it.
8:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but JJ, JJ hasn't shown any of that yet in a game.
8:41
[SPEAKER_04]: So, hey, if that's going to be the case, let it be the first one.
8:45
[SPEAKER_04]: But I just feel like overall the team is not good.
8:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, you know, you have Jayden Daniel's situation once again.
8:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I still believe the same thing that I said before that he shouldn't be playing.
9:00
[SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing to learn from this team, but the fact that they suck.
9:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to learn anything with these reps.
9:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I hear that Jayden once these reps, whatever, you're not going to learn a damn thing.
9:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Because, off-estately, I think that a lot of things need to change especially from a
9:20
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, the last thing I'll say, I hope that you guys don't come in here and for the rest of the week have these RG three, I mean these RG PTSD moments because that's what I feel like a lot of this is like people calling fragile.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Whatever the case is, well, let's, let's have a, let's have a talk, we're going to have a conversation about that by Jayden by itself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So let's talk about, let's talk, because we got to talk about that part.
9:45
[SPEAKER_06]: So go ahead to your food where ledgerate talk, we're going to come back to, we're going to come back to Jaydenburg.
9:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, this, this was just a point.
9:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you going to, you know, this wasn't a good look for the ankle in, and he told you don't right here, me too.
9:59
[SPEAKER_03]: No, sir, but no, this is a bad, and this is a bad look for Dan Quinn and his unit in I want to emphasize Dan Quinn as the leader of this unit because this is not the type of effort you want to have, especially when you come off the Denver Broncos game, the team looks like they're filling a little bit better than better spirits.
10:22
[SPEAKER_03]: then you go to Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I'm seeing this struggling just as bad as you are.
10:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And they look a step fast and every single way on the football field today, the urgency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it goes back to earlier in the season when you talk about
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[SPEAKER_03]: We used to have these conversations early in the season about the fair and getting the ball first.
10:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, don't know who won the coin toss, but your defense goes out there first.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they want it, and they chose it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They chose it received.
10:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
10:49
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's okay.
10:49
[SPEAKER_03]: But even with a lot of times, we like the deferred.
10:52
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll defer and put the defense on the football field first.
10:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But your defense, this is Dan Quinn's defense now.
10:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not Joe Witt's defense is no one else's defense.
10:59
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Dan Quinn's unit.
11:01
[SPEAKER_03]: and they just looked like they made everything easy for a quarterback who hasn't done anything right this season.
11:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Like JJ McCarthy has looked every bit of a bus this whole season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's looked like the worst quarterback of the quarterback that were drafted in 2024 yet.
11:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He comes out there and he looks like every bit of a top six pick that Minnesota made him last year and you just looked like you had no answers for him.
11:24
[SPEAKER_03]: The run game nothing on the defensive side of the football
11:29
[SPEAKER_03]: then offensively you go out there the first round you look good pretty much the first round you're able to move the ball but then you don't finish you don't finish and you know I know AJ gets on cliff and only gripe I had him off cliff within that first wrist on draft was I thought they could have gave cliff Chris or I'll be against the ball with another time but then we're inside the fire but Deepo has a play right there to be made he just didn't make the play
11:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And at the end of the day, players have to make plays.
11:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is all over the, at each side of the football.
11:57
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have any one on defense that can make plays.
11:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You need someone on the office that can step up and make plays.
12:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, Jaden, you know, he's coming back his first game.
12:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to be Superman.
12:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I thought he looked early on then it started telling off later.
12:10
[SPEAKER_03]: But, I mean, again, this is a Dan Quinn issue right here, like into the point where I want to see Dan Quinn mad at this point and when I say mad, I mean, he doesn't have to go out cursing everybody out or something, but I want to see something more stereo.
12:26
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to change something seriously in this upcoming off season because at this point I'm looking at the coaches staff and I'm like, you can't come back into 2021 six with this same coach staff across the board when you're putting the efforts like this because now I understand you don't have the person now you especially on the defensive side of the football you're missing a lot of talent on that side of the football, but at this point you know in a game like this.
12:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see guys playing hard for you.
12:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that last week at Gis Denver, but I didn't see that this week.
12:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's an issue when you have a consistency when guys aren't playing hard for your, and believe it and everything you're doing out there.
13:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you can get a little bit more to those guys.
13:05
[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen them get more out of these guys at some point.
13:08
[SPEAKER_03]: you saw a little bit of that dimmer game, but you really got nothing out of any button, offense, defense, special teams, whatever the case may be today, you got nothing out of anyone.
13:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a damn good problem, something has to change going forward.
13:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Javon, I agree, and again, appreciate everybody who's checking in live on the stream, welcome to the show.
13:31
[SPEAKER_06]: We know the score was 31, not a Javon said for those as listen on audio side.
13:36
[SPEAKER_06]: This was worth since Seattle.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I, 110,000, million, billion, trillion per cent agree with you.
13:44
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's more so off the strength of this run game that Minnesota had felt like it was impossible to stop.
13:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Jayden McCarthy like I don't know how many times they convert it on third down a damn other I'm not a check right now as I'm talking They converted six of eleven or third down I can't imagine how many of those were long down in distances.
14:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was like a few of them out of those eleven It was probably like three or four that was eight or longer or seven or longer Jayden McCarthy ended the day
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[SPEAKER_06]: three touchdowns thrown all the while your boy Jay Jedis had two catches for eleven y'all's fight he over that much but he was efficient and I think the overall frustrating part is like y'all touched on the defensive side of things I think what really said the tone for Washington and missed opportunities offensively is that first raise on drive where I agree with what I agree with
14:52
[SPEAKER_06]: AJ and Cliff when it comes to red zone, I did say that I was going to take a sit that he every time he brought it up, but look, I'm in a move or every time I bring it up, I'm going to have to take a sit too.
15:08
[SPEAKER_06]: You're at the two yard line and you're telling me at the two yard line with Chris Rodriguez.
15:19
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't find it in your heart to run it one time.
15:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Know that you're gonna go for it on four bound.
15:25
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what always gets me with coaches in general.
15:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Not just Washington, this is an NFL and college football thing.
15:30
[SPEAKER_06]: If you know that you're gonna go for it on four bound you're within two yards of it, whether you can't run the ball or not.
15:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Like if you are a bad run team or not, if you got two yards to go, and you got two or three downs to do it, why are you not running the ball on one of those downs?
15:47
[SPEAKER_06]: So for Washington to go in this situation and have C-Ride and have an efficient run game to not give that opportunity to C-Ride one time knowing he has an effort to answer.
15:58
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he scored like four out of the last five games and he played it and don't quote me on that, but it's close enough.
16:02
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like 304 out of the last four or five games and he played, he scored a touchdown.
16:07
[SPEAKER_06]: I just think that the way you think something's through from an offensive standpoint sometimes it does frustrate people.
16:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, man, where are we at 18 minutes?
16:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, we could do one more conversation and then let's get into underdog.
16:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Defensively, or actually, let me do one thing because we're gonna on a back end, we'll talk about Jayden, right?
16:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, let's not be very delete.
16:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's talk about Jayden now.
16:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Bro, four straight games, he's gotten hurt.
16:39
[SPEAKER_06]: This one was a re-endry, but four straight games, he's gotten hurt.
16:44
[SPEAKER_06]: And as many games as he's played.
16:47
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody should be made.
16:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody should be made to the shit I just saw the boy at, at, at, at, Jaden, stepping on the field.
16:58
[SPEAKER_06]: If you were one of those people who would like play him, if he's healthy enough to play play him, should be made, should be upset to happen.
17:05
[SPEAKER_06]: That is the risk that's posed.
17:09
[SPEAKER_06]: For reference point, I was one of the ones who said initially, shut
17:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I was interested lately I changed my tune and seeing him play those last four games because I saw how healthy Terry was like it wasn't a bullshit he's good to go like he was really healthy so I'm in that I'm in that same minority I can't be upset they decide to play him I knew that he wasn't fully healthy I knew that much I didn't want to see him play um but you can't be upset or mad at the decision to put him in.
17:44
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why people are like, but the one thing out that throws my mind, throws me off with this whole thing, he throw a pit.
17:53
[SPEAKER_06]: It's him and Terry, those are the only two people left to try and get the van winkle.
17:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Those are only two people.
18:00
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not mad at him trying to chase them.
18:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Call them van winkle.
18:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just making that man's rip van winkle and those get van ginkle.
18:12
[SPEAKER_04]: This is my old ass grandma, though.
18:14
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn't say it, we didn
18:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, damn, I was on Twitter calling this nigga, uh, uh, winkle in that.
18:41
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, uh, Ganko, right.
18:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, so, so Ganko, it is only two people.
18:48
[SPEAKER_06]: It's Terry and Jayden.
18:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Like at some point for people that's going to get mad at Jayden or, or annoyed that Jayden's playing football, Brad, if you won't get annoyed at him doing something to simple to try to make a tackle, Brad, don't put them on the field.
19:00
[SPEAKER_06]: Kick him off, he's, this is something so regular as trying to make a play to not let him score touchdown.
19:06
[SPEAKER_06]: You rather just let him get on the play so, so it's either Terry or nobody.
19:10
[SPEAKER_06]: What a Terry, good luck.
19:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for the honestly, you know, in that situation, I never like quarterback's going for the attack, because most of the time they get to ask blown up.
19:18
[SPEAKER_03]: We see the last year in the Detroit game, when Jerry Garb got his ass blown up and he thought he could play on Quang Martin, if people want to say Frankie Blue was in him 30.
19:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But I just think Jayden in this situation, this has to be more common is that I understand.
19:32
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a hard thing to do with the moment.
19:35
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the end of the moment.
19:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
19:36
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a hard thing to do to not think like a football player.
19:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a scene.
19:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He has to realize he is a target out there and the defendants are looking for a reason to go out there and blow him up.
19:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not mad that he went out there and played.
19:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I was an advocate that if he's healthy and he's cleared to play and I don't even know if he was really 100% healthy to be honest with you.
19:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't favorite and left home.
20:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So if that's the case that he probably shouldn't have been playing.
20:03
[SPEAKER_06]: It was bullshit all along and that's actually my overall point of why I didn't want him to play because I'm just saying back, like it was going to be a problem.
20:10
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that's my overall point.
20:12
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, that's the thing.
20:13
[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing is with the injury has hit tested out until you get hit.
20:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's true, it may be tested out until you actually have to be conquered.
20:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But if there was any discomfort, if there's any discomfort, I feel like he's not ready.
20:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's going to be worse.
20:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Bro, you wake up in the morning, sometimes the knee hurt a little bit, but you could still go.
20:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But like your elbow, bro, like you can hit by 300 pound dudes or whatever, just to impact the ground.
20:42
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what it is, I think they kind of let it go because it wasn't as throwing arm.
20:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, if it was as throwing arm, he probably doesn't play this week.
20:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And they probably feel like if there's a little bit of this company's OK is not as thrown on, but I still feel for like he should have been 100% clear to play.
20:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's the only way I want him to go out and play if he was a 100% healthy.
21:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And it just didn't look like that today because he was favorite in that arm a lot.
21:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, I'm not angry that he played because my biggest thing and I'm consistent with that is that I want Jake and the go out there and prove that he could play football games but I'll get hurt.
21:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if we're going to be scared that he's going to be in hurt and you've got to sit him out because you don't want him to get hurt, then that fear is always going to be there as long as Dana Dank's plan and NFL.
21:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we already worry about his frame and, you know, that size and take it hits the way he takes.
21:29
[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to see J and to be able to protect himself a little bit better, just be a little bit more cognizant.
21:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And then can I do get it, like I said, somebody's like, either the moment plays, but this is a real conversation to be had now just because this is the fourth injury or at least the fourth time we've seen him in
21:44
[SPEAKER_03]: you know alone.
21:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was two injuries last year.
21:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was, but yeah, I mean, I want to see Jayden go out there and prove it because they helped me.
21:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, today, it just he can finish the game.
21:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And those conversations are going to be had.
21:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still not ready to go out there and start talking about, oh, this is our G3 situation.
22:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Or, you know, we made the wrong pick a quarterback.
22:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it is what it is, but at the same time, I do want to see Jayden learn how to
22:10
[SPEAKER_06]: I was, let's be real, bro.
22:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's, let's be real about one thing.
22:14
[SPEAKER_06]: And Jay, you got the floor.
22:15
[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to, I just want to make sure that we put this out there.
22:18
[SPEAKER_06]: I, I said, I don't know, I don't know when I said this.
22:20
[SPEAKER_06]: But I, I, I, I, I, I, I think I posed a question.
22:22
[SPEAKER_06]: And the reason why I posed a question like at this point, you got, you got enough data to add.
22:25
[SPEAKER_06]: You got enough data or information to ask this question.
22:28
[SPEAKER_06]: If you get hurt four times in as many games, right?
22:34
[SPEAKER_06]: And you get hurt twice last year.
22:35
[SPEAKER_06]: You play through them last year.
22:36
[SPEAKER_06]: That is what it is.
22:37
[SPEAKER_06]: But you get hurt in as many times, for four times as many games were.
22:40
[SPEAKER_06]: There is no, I'm not even doing a comparison to the previous quarterback.
22:44
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm talking about Jayden himself, not about any other person except for Jayden.
22:50
[SPEAKER_06]: If you have a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a propensity to get injured more often than the average quarterback, your injury rate is high.
22:59
[SPEAKER_06]: You keep getting hurt.
23:00
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you can't ignore that, that is real, that is not a facade, that is not fake.
23:05
[SPEAKER_06]: It is unfortunate for 2025, Brad.
23:07
[SPEAKER_06]: But you keep getting hurt, Brad, that is a real thing and you can't just say, oh, well, I don't pay no mind to it.
23:13
[SPEAKER_06]: That's just real, it's real, Brad.
23:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess I guess my thing with the complaining of the Jayden Daniels playing for Taylor, especially
23:30
[SPEAKER_04]: If you are on the field, I hate it that week, I hate it.
23:34
[SPEAKER_04]: If you, I'm on the field, you have to play the game.
23:37
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't, you can't throw it.
23:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Intercepts is just staying there.
23:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, probably when it got rocked, even worse, if you just said that.
23:44
[SPEAKER_04]: So you better all run in.
23:45
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, when you have an injury like that, the only way you know is if you're in a good space is if you can get hit and you can still maneuver off of it.
23:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that was one of his bigger hits of the game, right?
24:00
[SPEAKER_04]: So that was the first time really having the land like you still got a land like even us as humans if we were to fall right now we could easily break something in our arms just because we may not properly land in that moment my thing with the holds jaded thing is we know he's a good quarterback I don't need him to see I don't need to see more of him to understand that I know that I don't have to go and answer that in the off season
24:26
[SPEAKER_04]: from the draft for the free agency.
24:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I know what I got and he may want to play.
24:31
[SPEAKER_04]: He may want to be this big time competitor.
24:33
[SPEAKER_04]: It's cool.
24:34
[SPEAKER_04]: But my job is also to help him understand the longevity of what we're trying to get accomplished here.
24:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just felt like there's no need to rush him to come back and play these games, especially when there's nothing on the line.
24:48
[SPEAKER_04]: If there's something on the line,
24:49
[SPEAKER_04]: where you're still fighting for the playoffs like closer chance of making the playoffs or you're in the playoffs already like you can clinch a birth.
24:58
[SPEAKER_04]: That's one thing, but like
25:01
[SPEAKER_04]: At the end of the day, I don't need to see Jayden out there.
25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what the diagnosis is of the injury, but it looked like pretty much he could have played.
25:09
[SPEAKER_04]: They just told him, we're not putting you back in the game.
25:12
[SPEAKER_04]: There was no point.
25:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that too.
25:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it would have been the same situation.
25:16
[SPEAKER_06]: When I back in the middle, I don't want to back in the middle a little bit.
25:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Would you say AJ?
25:18
[SPEAKER_04]: What I was saying is, Jayden could have came back in this game, but they said to him, no, we're not going to put you back out there.
25:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what frustrated him.
25:28
[SPEAKER_04]: because what was the point?
25:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I think it's still 24 to nothing at that point.
25:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's by the crowd.
25:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Like in that school cry, maybe cry, maybe cry.
25:37
[SPEAKER_04]: You feel me?
25:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Like at some point somewhere has to be the dough in the building and tell him like nah, like we're not rocking.
25:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Like we can't just give you the full autonomy to just be able to just go out there whenever you want to.
25:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Like we also have to protect our jobs because once you're in like I said,
25:53
[SPEAKER_04]: From I said a couple weeks ago, it's something worse.
25:57
[SPEAKER_04]: It's to happen to Jaden Danes in this return and playing these pointless as games.
26:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's job is on the line and next 2020 season is over with as well because Anything can happen.
26:08
[SPEAKER_04]: You seem today in non-concept injury happened to Daniel Jones So now the coats are right back in the quarterback search.
26:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean it might have been a blessing in the skies You know prayers for for Daniel Jones
26:19
[SPEAKER_04]: But they probably would cast that boy out next year and bending a situation where he wouldn't have looked as productive as he did in the beginning of the year.
26:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Now he got a ton of killies and they now forefitted their first round pink with the saws gardener trade thinking that they had somewhat of an answer at quarterback.
26:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And now they got to go get a quarterback.
26:40
[SPEAKER_04]: You've owned me, Riley Leonard is not going to play.
26:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Anthony Richardson is not going to come back to play.
26:44
[SPEAKER_04]: But I say all this to say, you know what you have at quarterback.
26:48
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of the other positions on the team, you don't know what you have.
26:51
[SPEAKER_04]: So you have to be more strategic in those guys playing.
26:54
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, I'm not putting Jayden Dames out there.
26:57
[SPEAKER_04]: when offensively, we're not moving the ball effectively enough.
27:00
[SPEAKER_04]: And at the time, he wasn't necessarily going to be playing with the weapons that he had at his disposal today.
27:06
[SPEAKER_04]: But even if you bring in a Terry McClure and Noah Brown back, those guys, you know, not necessarily in football shape yet, you know, to really even be able to say you can count on like maybe last year.
27:20
[SPEAKER_04]: But even defensively, you're not stopping nobody.
27:23
[SPEAKER_04]: So then I'm really asking you to be Superman.
27:26
[SPEAKER_04]: And when you ask him to be Superman, he got to play like that.
27:28
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all he know how to do.
27:30
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just no one way to play ball.
27:32
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're going to criticize him for being a part of trying to make a play after he threw an interception, come on man.
27:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you want to be that safe with a player, then they might as well just sit at home and sit on the bench.
27:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's the only way you could protect yourself.
27:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you can't, you can't say you want this person to play and you want them to be a part of the team and not act no different than the other 52 men on the roster and then he throw a pick, he just get to stand there while everybody else hustling come on bro now make no damn sense cake.
28:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean the ball bro, that's the positive plane.
28:23
[SPEAKER_03]: They do it all the time and get it.
28:25
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to look like you are there doing it, but you know what what I actually hated more than that.
28:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually hated the fact that Noah Brown was able to come in off and miss the 10 games and get his spot back.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He was starting immediately.
28:35
[SPEAKER_03]: like I thought Traylon Burst kind of earned that spot because you had mentioned Traylon, I forgot about Traylon, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right
29:04
[SPEAKER_06]: That was like 30 minutes ago.
29:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Um.
29:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh.
29:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh.
29:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
29:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
29:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Great.
29:10
[SPEAKER_04]: He playing with me then when he was.
29:15
[SPEAKER_06]: He essentially, you know, about the critic part.
29:21
[SPEAKER_06]: I do, and also, Jay Tizzy said it in the chat too.
29:23
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree with you, Jay Tizzy.
29:24
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think he was, I don't think he's 100% healthy.
29:28
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he's playing hurt.
29:29
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he's trying to toughen through it.
29:32
[SPEAKER_06]: I do think that they took him out though, Jay Tizzy, because he was taking too many hits.
29:36
[SPEAKER_06]: I do agree with AJ as well that, you know, they decided not to put them back out there for whatever political reasons they see fit.
29:47
[SPEAKER_06]: I also think like that's just kind of my larger overarching thing with, with this as well as like if you knew he wasn't fully healthy but he was good enough to play.
30:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, I'm here to call your car.
30:03
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm here to call your blood personally put him out there if he's if he if you think that he's good enough put him out there like if he's clear to play.
30:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Put him back out there, but if you think that you want to, um, manage his injury risk or if he even wins isn't paying if you think that you want say we got to hold him out.
30:23
[SPEAKER_06]: He shouldn't even start the game.
30:26
[SPEAKER_06]: It's either one or the other for me.
30:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and that's kind of where I met with the jade and injury.
30:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, let's go ahead.
30:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, the underdog fantasy, uh, and let's talk about it.
30:40
[SPEAKER_06]: What is 425?
30:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's do a Monday night game, right?
30:43
[SPEAKER_06]: We got the Monday night game coming up.
30:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, football season is and full swing and underdog is the best place to get in on all the action.
30:56
[SPEAKER_06]: playing on it all because he's just picked whether your favorite players will go higher or lower on stats like rushing yards, receptions, touchdowns, and more on, got my way on the Monday night game, Philadelphia versus the Los Angeles charges.
31:13
[SPEAKER_06]: We got several popular picks right now and I think we're going to go with some of the safety valves, right?
31:21
[SPEAKER_06]: A Z Brown.
31:23
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, any time he ups it, just pick AJ Brown bro.
31:26
[SPEAKER_06]: He made enough noise.
31:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, you hit me.
31:29
[SPEAKER_06]: 60 16 to have receiving odds.
31:31
[SPEAKER_06]: Look man, line them up on Benjamin St. Juice.
31:33
[SPEAKER_06]: He getting 75.
31:36
[SPEAKER_06]: So you know, we won't go higher on 60 and a half man, 60 and a half receiving odds.
31:40
[SPEAKER_06]: Justin Herbert, he's at 213 213 and a half passing yards.
31:45
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to go higher on Justin Herbert's passing yards.
31:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's back?
31:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, I'm already a hampton.
31:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
31:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm already a hampton is back.
31:56
[SPEAKER_06]: 43 and a half rushing hours.
31:57
[SPEAKER_06]: He may be on the workload like work work count step down thing.
32:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, but.
32:15
[SPEAKER_06]: So let me get 43 and a half for rushing yards on a Mario Hansen.
32:18
[SPEAKER_06]: That may be risky.
32:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to lie to you.
32:21
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to lie to you.
32:23
[SPEAKER_06]: In the Sake Juan Barclay, 68 and a half rushing yards, I know what they've been looking like.
32:28
[SPEAKER_06]: The past few weeks running the ball, but guess what?
32:33
[SPEAKER_06]: When you're back as against the wall, you've got to lean on your dogs.
32:36
[SPEAKER_06]: So we're going to go higher on Sake Juan Barclays for rushing yards.
32:42
[SPEAKER_06]: He's going to pop one of these games and I think the charges game is it is it what other what better time.
32:47
[SPEAKER_06]: You seen them first you seen them first hand against Washington that you can run on these guys.
32:51
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33:39
[SPEAKER_06]: As I actually shoot out and can't clean them bro 31 23 Titans and and brands this year yeah, this should do can war game bro of course, right.
33:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's get, when you go, I was gonna say there's some invocations today.
33:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna see Dr. Lee Lee.
33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Talk to me.
34:00
[SPEAKER_03]: There has Washington fans interested in mine.
34:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now, I'm currently watching the fans.
34:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You are sitting at the number five draft pick right now.
34:07
[SPEAKER_03]: There's Cleveland, actually, somehow comes back and wins this game.
34:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll be sitting at number four of the draft today.
34:13
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the implications for Washington.
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Those who follow that.
34:17
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the implications for Washington.
34:18
[SPEAKER_04]: That might be draft number one, bro.
34:20
[SPEAKER_04]: So.
34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, good.
34:22
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what I want to talk about.
34:25
[SPEAKER_06]: So let's go ahead and get to some of these ones since it's takeaways.
34:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's talk about not draft order, but the actual coach.
34:33
[SPEAKER_06]: She was a little sweet for the last couple of weeks, but I feel like the Vikings slapped the reality back into people.
34:41
[SPEAKER_06]: So let's go on to the ones since it's takeaways.
34:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see who we got, who we got, a money, who's up a money losing five games by all Lord Jesus.
34:50
[SPEAKER_06]: losing five games about 20 plus points is a larmine.
34:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Sane, peacher.
34:56
[SPEAKER_06]: What's up, Shane, Farre Quinn, or it will be off of the same next season.
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: When was that?
35:03
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been done at it.
35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We got done at it today.
35:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
35:08
[SPEAKER_06]: We'll see you in the next three seconds.
35:10
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what, we didn't score it all.
35:12
[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't score it all.
35:13
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we score it all, Seattle, right?
35:15
[SPEAKER_06]: No, you score 14 points against Seattle.
35:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we scored against Seattle.
35:18
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was the man.
35:20
[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like nothing was scored.
35:23
[SPEAKER_03]: The last one I remember was when the Giants beat us 36 nothing about 20 years ago.
35:27
[SPEAKER_03]: There's about 20 years ago when after their owner died and everything went right, they beat us 36 nothing.
35:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Lord, how many times have the commanders been?
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, a money I think got it right.
35:40
[SPEAKER_03]: He said 2019 San Francisco, that's not good.
35:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That was that ring.
35:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
35:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I needed a ring.
35:46
[SPEAKER_06]: We need some reasonable researchers or something for a chopper die, man.
35:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Elbo's out.
35:51
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, not nothing cool.
35:52
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm rolling with that.
35:53
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, let's continue.
35:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Where we, where we rest, man.
35:58
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he's so to picture.
36:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Mr. Ra Ra, very disappointing, playing old Luke with free agency class that amount of rocks are open as we need to feel and the lack of picks, all the Lord Jesus.
36:09
[SPEAKER_06]: The lack of picks next year might be worse.
36:13
[SPEAKER_06]: Big John, outcoached and bears, is not blow it all up territory, but I can't be mad at anyone who feels that way.
36:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Mr. Lawson to you, need defense to play a step.
36:29
[SPEAKER_06]: OK, I don't know what I'm going to read that.
36:31
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what you mean.
36:32
[SPEAKER_06]: And I want to put that propaganda on this air.
36:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Mike, this is a rudderless team.
36:38
[SPEAKER_06]: And I can't wait for this season to be over.
36:41
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not too far to hold coach this team.
36:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It make it worse.
36:47
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, well, we're running.
36:50
[SPEAKER_07]: We're running.
36:52
[SPEAKER_06]: for rudderless, like I think that's a boat term, like no, no, no, rudder, like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
37:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, stay with the blick.
37:25
[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't Joe with Junior Folk.
37:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, dragon design rock bottom has arrived for the new regime.
37:32
[SPEAKER_06]: AP will have a long season ahead and it may include a new in coach.
37:36
[SPEAKER_06]: I read a couple more so we can get back to the show.
37:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, all right.
37:41
[SPEAKER_06]: I see it once since it's learned the one sentence, bro.
37:44
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't need a paragraph.
37:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Shales, yeah, we're so lost, we're in the weeds.
37:49
[SPEAKER_06]: And let's see if we got another one.
37:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody say a dirty hit.
37:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Did y'all think that was a dirty hit on Zagricks?
37:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't think so, I ain't gonna lie to you.
37:58
[SPEAKER_06]: I just think it was a high shot and he just aimed.
38:01
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, here we go.
38:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad they got that ASCAPed.
38:07
[SPEAKER_06]: No more pretendin' this is an NFL Compton roster.
38:16
[SPEAKER_06]: best where we are.
38:18
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
38:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, for those who's checking in, man, hit that like button hit the subscribe button on the YouTube side.
38:24
[SPEAKER_06]: What's up to all of you all calling to out to Monty, money, ball, Lucas, Jay Tezi.
38:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Who is this?
38:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Rest in 16, 16, 16 missed the out of two air.
38:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Ken, can I ask a question to the panel?
38:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanna ask questions to you all.
38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you.
38:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I'm Monty.
38:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, shout out to I'm Monty.
38:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I want to.
38:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you think about Boise Brown.
38:49
[SPEAKER_03]: My uncle asked you call me yesterday.
38:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He told me you're gonna take me fishing out.
38:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, my question is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: do we trust, I mean, or I think, I don't know if I trust Dan Quinn with the defense move before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know there was a conversation of, you know, does he take over his defense, you know, full time or does he hire a defense coordinator?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wanna see don't know if I trust them with the defense going for, you know, I think I wanna go outside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I wanna, I think I, if Dan Quinn is gonna stay here and beat a coach, I think I need a different philosophy on defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's just me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The U.S. Day equipment going forward with the defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If he asks the need to give you a score of the game, even with better talent.
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[SPEAKER_06]: AJ, matter of fact, you go in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy, but the underdog, the slamer is playing while you're talking to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, what did you say again?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I will say him, do you trust Dan Quinn is the deepest accord and they're going forward?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If he chooses to be so or do you want him to go on a different direction?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If he's the head coach next year, what do you want Dan Quinn to do with the deepest?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And me personally, I'm saying, I don't think I trust Dan Quinn to be the deepest accord and they'd or be in total control of the deepest, or anybody from under the Dan Quinn tree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I want something from a different philosophy Coach and his deepest going forward.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm just thinking what I said a couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust nobody on this organization at this point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like, especially if you finish with a top five pit, I got to be in strong consideration of possibly moving off of for GMN Head Coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I honestly would use something from Dre Wist.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to get a reputation around the league and not being able to be patient, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: breath you if if I allowed you to go in a sense of being able to improve the the roster from what we did year one and then we turn around and finish top five in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that I can trust you to bounce back from that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it'd be a perfect time to pivot with everything on the table from players that need to be resigned to having over $100 million for agency, having the top five picks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Also having one more year before I really got to pay Jayden Gaines, I just think it might be the perfect time to pivot because I don't think I would want to pivot going into
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[SPEAKER_04]: rookie contract because like I said after after next year, he's eligible to be extended.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not, I'm not sure that I'm sold on Dan Quinn being the head coach forget just DC.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was my, that was my biggest issue when he decided to take over for
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[SPEAKER_04]: for Joe with Junior, I felt like he put himself on the line to be called out for his job even more because what if this defense looks just the same as under Joe with Junior?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Today was a prime example of that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They look exactly like Joe with Junior's defense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So what is it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are we going to count on our scheme or are we going to say players?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, like, I don't know how the public is going to perceive it, but I just feel like when you decide to take their role and then even a question that was asked this week, do you see yourself calling plays next year and I think we talked about it Tuesday, he was like, will see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, it could get worse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Giants don't have like a high power office, but if you're going against the Cowboys again, who you know have a great office of the tag especially passing along with lamb and pickings and then you haven't even played Eagles yet, yet even having any struggles, but they got from near talent is just a weird situation and off the year going against NFCE.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see, but I mean, my answer is hell no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, do I trust a day and I think, um, he's like, I'll genuinely think like he's shown.
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[SPEAKER_06]: my differences between like experience levels, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Between him and Joe with, I think that's valuable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think going up against Miami and Denver is not just a testament of like what the defense can be a long term if everybody's on the same page, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: But the difference is when you go up against a team and Minnesota, and that's why I made sure to start off the show.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Excuse me, highlighting everything that Minnesota had.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, they have talent where they struggle is the quarterback position.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And McCarthy, one of against the perfect defense because you don't, you're not going
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're not going to be against a daunting secondary, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like those, that's what's important when you're talking about like how you can be the team in Minnesota who has dogs and championship level at every position except the quarterback position, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I say that's a say.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's going on for these last four games?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It may be paying for the watch at this point.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, let's kind of like, we got slide back into reality.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It may be paying for the watch, but you have to see how this all season plays out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And how do you recoup?
44:57
[SPEAKER_06]: This is why Adam Peters all season is one of the biggest, I mean, it is the biggest of his general manager career.
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[SPEAKER_06]: is it's the the biggest and I think for Dan Quinn, this is the tipping point for his coaching career in Washington.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't really, I don't really think that the ham taken over his head coach, I mean, excuse me, a defensive coordinator.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I still don't really agree fully agree with the it's it's going to be a reflection on him if the defense fails I think he has an out and it's like he's not playing with a full deck of cards like not even close.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I think there's things that you can look at and you could extrapolate the things that he's done with this defense that's good and his and since he's been able to take over.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But when you lose 31 nothing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the offense, the opposing offense makes things look easy in instances and you still haven't played Philadelphia's offense and you haven't played Dallas Dallas offense yet, uh, with under your, uh, leadership.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Those are things where it's like, all right, like, you hope that it doesn't get ugly because it does like the beat down the, the call for your job like if you can't get a win, at least one win down the final four.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it's not a game that starters are being held out at the end of the season.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Negative.
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[SPEAKER_06]: God bless.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been more, let me, let me, let me, let me ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You say that Dan Quinn gets kind of like the benefit of doubt because he's not playing with a full deck of cards.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But what was Joe Witt Jr. done?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even if all guys say healthy, it's still not a full day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it still is still his defense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's still back when's defense and still the roster that they compiled like Joe Widd don't make the decisions is between him and he got an AP so it's like that that that's that's my only light pick up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll say back with that is just like
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[SPEAKER_04]: I cool like it is what it is, but it's like you still gave up 30 more points.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You've only scored nothing in return and you have a bigger say all of then Joe Witt Jr. does.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got a bigger piece of that blame pod because you are the head coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But ultimately, it's, yes, it's Dan Quinn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dan Quinn's name comes our first because this is his, this is his tree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joe with Junior is under the Dan Quinn tree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, Joe with court, a bunch of the blame because of what we saw from the defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day, and if I got to tell some fans, we've had these debates going back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: where fans are like, well, it's strictly a personnel thing, and I get that if you want to break them up at impetus and tics at impetus, yes, he's responsible for what I'm finding the personnel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, this coach said, well, what don't be heard since day one from Adam Peters, not only at an impetus from Dan Quinn as well,
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a collaborative effort.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Adam Peters, I mean, I would believe that he goes rogue and says, I'm just going to go get these players and you got to figure out what to do with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe they do have a collaborative discussion between everybody, the coaches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We see Cliff King's very pretty much convince Adam Peters to go out there and draft Josh Connelly, Jr., and then you got to believe that Dan Quinn and Joe with Jr. has had some say in some of the
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[SPEAKER_03]: on a half year, who they made one a draft, who to go after.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen Joe Witt go out there and say, I beg for J.B.R.K.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and Laura for two years in a row.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So these guys have say as coaches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I don't get more people have solved these guys and say they have nothing to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When they just look at the personnel and say, the personnel is not good, the coaches can't do anything with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These coaches said they could work with these guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you would have asked these guys in a summer, if you would have asked Dan Quinn,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joe with Jr. in the summer, can you do something with this defense?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this defense capable?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They would have told you, yes, this defense is capable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can work with this defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They may not have told you they're going to be top 5, top 10, but they would have told you they can work with these guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I seen a stack that they had said, these dudes are 31st and past defense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to be in a top 14th and past defense last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, obviously, that has something to do with who you're playing as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You played a lot of that quarterbacks last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't believe that you go from 2 to 31 in this specific unit and you're not just bad and not doing your bad or rushedy for swell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't believe you get that drastically bad just because the players are bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe this is a collaborative effort in coaching in personnel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the coaching staff thought that they could work with these guys and and yes, it has been injuries, but they're not getting much out of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we've seen flashes that they can get something out of these guys, but nothing on a consistent basis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: sure I trust Dan Quinn and anyone under his tree or his skin that go forward with this deep even when you get better players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know some people go back to the Dallas Cowboys days and say, yeah, you know, he got success with the Cowboys things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what happened in the playoffs?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They gave up damn their 50s and the packers and the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we've seen this type of skin, this this this this unit or these guys these coaches get work even with better talent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's my issue there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why I say, I'm
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with this deepest one for even if you go out there and get better person now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, let's leave it there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll just leave this with a couple quotes from Dan Quinn and get up out of here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So on Jaden Dan use for those who are wondering about a way if you're listening to this, or if you're even watching a replay and made it this far.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We started this show, we're like three minutes left in the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, we're just now getting quotes from the coaches.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Jayden Day is good of return, but he shows the whole to mouth for precautionary regents.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think we know that means, and in Dan Quinn, also said, I think we took a step forward last week.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And tonight, I think we took three steps back.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and we'll leave it there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, uh, we're finally back on a regular schedule.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We'll be back Tuesday, our 32 back Wednesday, and we have Game Preview on Thursday this week.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, hey, Jay to the ankle and let it go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: amazing realized cliffhase, JD, and C-Rot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Alright, so I appreciate it by the watch live.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We'll catch you all on Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And if you're happy to see y'all in and enjoy the rest of y'all Sunday, don't keep your head down.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Man keep your head up and enjoy the Sunday night games, and we'll get outta here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's damn sad, huh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watchin' throw the bump, we gon' pick it up You gon' light them hit the hole You gon' cut it up You gon' play the phone for the longer You gon' put it up You're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in Don't be lookin' for the ref to throw the flag in Keep the helmet on, keep the police tight You the type you want to win by any means, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should look alive, this is driving out