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Joe Whitt Jr. demoted, Dan Quinn takes over as DC, more injuries · Trap or Dive

• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you soon.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sir, welcome back to another episode of Chopped Eye Pie Caste.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I am your host other Chopped Eye Pie Caste Mollin' Mollin'
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Ajay's on the way.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Dre is on the way.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate it by listening live watching live however you are doing that.
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• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: The administrative items are done.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, so no post game on Sunday.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I think I got a lot of questions about what was going on with the post game, but at the end of the day, I think we all,
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Despite with the obligations where we all observe the day off, right?
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the same story to last five weeks.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you know, I think when you look at this game and just the way this losing streak is going, even when they were winning.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just I'm going to make this feel why we wait on AJ injury.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not being hyperbolic here, right?
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel really good right now.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm being honest.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel really good.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm in a good mood matter fact.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I made sure that I didn't pull up before I started to show.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: So let me
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to know what I'm drinking.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: So look, I look at this season and I'm talking from a injury aspect, a performance aspect, I am genuine when I say I don't recall
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: such a more underwhelming slash poor season.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that when you look at Washington's inability to stop anything defensively, like Brad, I think even the seahogs punty, right?
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Forced to turn over one time,
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't get Detroit off the field on Sunday at all.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: There was no answer for anything that Detroit sent.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: There was no dictating in a sense, right?
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: And it's not exclusive to Detroit, right?
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like in terms of dictating defensively,
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you see that throughout the course of the season, there was no dictating at all.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And what makes things difficult when you, when you talk about having the ability to control a series or have that edge to have that idea of what this team is going to try to, what they're going to try to do against you, but have the ability to counter that or be prepared for it, Washington wasn't prepared.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I look at this season, and you can't get past the fact that Washington has lost four straight games, about 20 points or more, but then overall, I don't think you look at the immediate, let's say, three games.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can probably go further than three games.
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: These upcoming opponents and say, we have a shot to win.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Again, I'm not being hyperbolic.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm giving you my true wrong thoughts.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Not even emotional.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: And Miami Dolphins possess firepower.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Defensively, and I'm granted they play Kirk Cousins, I guess Atlanta, but the only thing that changed with Atlanta was that quarterback spot.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: They still had their weapons.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: They dominated that Atlanta Falcons, the defensive side of the football did.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: Against the Buffalo Bills, Buffalo had this place, I mean, that's an elite offense, right?
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you hold them to 13 points.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, you keep them out of the end zone.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's a hard thing to do.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: You force multiple four, four bounce stops.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: So what am I saying?
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying that dead defense is like drastically better, but what I'm saying is they are playing with effort and they make some really good plays offensively.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: And we know about their offense.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's still explosive.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: They still have a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: And two of those, how to get the ball to those two at the very least, what is going to do is get the ball to those two.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: So what am I saying here, when I look at this season and the immediate future there, future opponents, I have no idea where when it's coming inside.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel bad because that's all one of my friends, shout out to James, if you watch.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like where you tripping, they going to get at least two.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's how bad it got.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: So you, they're going to get at least two wins.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: two to three wins.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what they're going to come from because that's just the nature of the NFL, but you're going to get least to a three.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: I made an amended statement this week.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know if they're going to get one.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if they do get the one, I don't know where's one come from.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe Russell Wilson playing the
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, I do think that Washington is just in this state of disarray where, you know, you're just hoping to find answers that will keep you afloat for the rest of the season.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, you look at Dan Quinn this week right.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, he came out and he said something interesting.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let me.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder if I did, I don't.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: I actually may be in the wrong studio.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's just hilarious.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to worry about it.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's try this.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let me get the guys in here.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: We may be in the wrong studio, which would be my fault for what are not here.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: OK.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: So let me second with the chat right quick.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: fans are starting to lose their minds.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I got distracted and I ain't gonna lie to you when I start to read my phone because they're in a different studio.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Fans are starting to lose their minds.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're fighting each other.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: One every player could fire just a bunch of BS Terry on the sidelines.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I do think that's interesting.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like looking for anything to get mad about.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was a big deal for whatever reason.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Terry, Terry conversation and him deal on the sidelines.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know what that means.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think anybody, I don't think it's a big deal.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think anybody should care that much anymore.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: But also, knowing that he was at the game, it was actually funny to me.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: How you make a big deal about somebody, not because you don't see them and say they did not the game.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then you got Mama Jackson fighting a good fight on Twitter.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're not a good fight on Twitter, saying he was at the game.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: He was present, it's ridiculous.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's go ahead and get the guys in here.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm so confused, I could have sworn, when I made this on, I could have sworn, I made it in the regular studio.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: But nevertheless, you all are here.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just don't use the original links moving forward or get rid of this one.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: But Drake and AJ's in here for those who are listening to the audio service, I was going on for others.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just let y'all know me, AJ, aren't late.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's more of a saying, we just had some link issues.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Before they started saying stuff, you know what I'm saying?
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm in here.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know who big Pippin' Slim DB is, but that is a weird ass comment that you wrote.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, that is hell of weird.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, don't take it to heart.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I ain't taking it to heart, but like, that was very like specific, and I'm like,
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It might have been because of the comedy you made last week on the show, something about how you took it.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's going to, uh, we said that on the show.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That we was going to.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, he said that he took care of them and the thing and everything.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: OK, nothing to say.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, come.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, let's kind of, let's kind of, I'm just gonna, yeah, I mean, I get it, but I'm just gonna say that it was.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Dre, you go ahead to film me in, be intense, because I'm, I'm ill of confused, but yeah, let's go.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's roll with the show.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Some are high, high, social, aging.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, man, y'all think it's weird, let's just go there.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see, you got the front, you got the front, not you, not you in mall,
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I don't think so we see.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see you guys.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see you got the locks.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Luxury twist it, bro.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got them.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jones down the day.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want to Madrid tomorrow, you try to look fresh up in the dream.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: What would you say, AJ, you, you are sad, you who care about this game, right?
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: We all sad.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Try to stand on them home.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck the game, fuck big pimps.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me be.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck the weather, fuck everything.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just, I'm on a, I'm on a fuck it Tuesday.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, what time you need?
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not tomorrow.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: It'll be I.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: 11.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: 11 early not I changed my I changed my join up from what we discussed because of these of flight delays I wasn't trying to put myself in a situation where flight get delayed and then I'm screwed because I mean how many flights going to Spain with a certain airline?
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: So
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: You got connectin' because I didn't know that you nighted head straight.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bro, I thought you had to connect to get to Spain.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I had to connect him, but my original connection is this Chicago.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: But the layover was short.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was short in between.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, if you get a delay, then you pretty much asked out because you probably not gonna make that flight.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, this joint I got along.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got along like layover in New York, but I mean, it's all good.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Got a Greg and I guess his whole family on my flight too that I just fell down like a little bit of go so Yeah, that's a coincidence, but that's lit.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got I got some Cassandra saying something that we were somehow Not a stand somewhere else.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, you hopefully you cancel your joint.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, I'm straight.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm straight.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's the person I put in the headline
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Next time, next time you're going to get a Mortal Kombat, a Mortal Kombat, I'm going to tell you.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, the hide you can breath.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're all right.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: So what?
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is all good.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: My bad.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that you can get mad.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're ready to fight.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, um,
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was I was thinking about it and when I was getting my spiel because I locked you a lot of the studio before we even get because I was just getting into the day and point comments and it's pressure.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't necessarily think that I've seen a team, a Washington team.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I was saying, I'm not being hyperbolic.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm being, this is my true honest thought.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I've seen a team this bad before.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And like, I'm included in injuries, but I'm also included in just the abysmal play on the field.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't think I've seen a team that watches in this yield, even in the previous regime, the previous coaching areas, like, where my memory is active.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: So we're talking about going back to O3.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I've seen this bat given the set of circus dances that they have in 2025.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: I say what I had to say then, I'll get y'all to floor and get y'all thoughts on how to season it's gone so far and especially since we didn't really talk about Detroit.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I haven't necessarily thought about the comparison of how this team has looked to other organizations, but I think that's why maybe I wanted us to get that particular guess that I text you about the other day on because they were in the mix, you know, of leading the organization and some changes.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that the roster is poor and I think that when I sit back in and really like digest it the last few weeks Jamie Daniels should have been the MVP of the NFL I mean of the NFL last year like Take away take away these these injuries right like things things happen it's football right
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: But he really did an amazing job of masking so many holes within this roster last year to the point that they got to the conference championship game.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because these holes still exist.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And they're even more glaring when you're losing and then you're losing certain players.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean, even if you look at the defense or even offensively, a lot of these guys that you lost aren't necessarily like game changers, like,
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, some people may argue Terry McClellan, right?
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: But still, you should be able to get around that.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: But defensively, you didn't really lose no game changer.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Dietrich Wise, all respect the helm, you know, appreciate it.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Don't worry, I'll try.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Being on the show.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, even though it's on song like, it's not like...
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not like he was like that impactful people made look at the numbers and be like yeah, but the defense was still ass even though he was putting up sack numbers like it was still ass.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: and carry the high dosages of trying to stop the run and rust the past.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, your linebacker play, you know, Bobby is leading, is top in the lead, or top three, whatever, in tackles, but like Boovoo is not impactful.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're back in your safety play.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Will Harris, you brought him in.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: He got injured, what week one.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think he has, he had a broken fibula as well.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: So now Jeremy Reeves, your special teamer, your special team ace, all pro Revo as they call him has now had to play in the most games he's ever played in his entire life as a starter.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like outside of high school.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like then Quang Martin is just not it at all.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just like
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: It just makes you think so much more about the poor roster construction.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where we're Dan Quinn now deciding to take over the play calling, I'm scared for him.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: and I think him and his wife should have movers on speed up because I don't let's let's let's let's I don't want to yeah I want to make sure that we cover this before we not going to get too deep into that but I guess what I was saying is from a roster construction standpoint this is a bad roster like offensively and defensively why won't you I do want to say one thing bro I need you to at least acknowledge that you with all four days in
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because you change your tune now and I, I, I, I like knowledge that, but like I think because in the reason why I want to bring this up is because of how hard you going against AP and I think that's important for you to at least in knowledge and that if you thought that this roster and how they built it in the summertime was good.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: acknowledge that, you know, you just changed your song, and you was wrong, just like some other people's wrong.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think that.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was so...
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I never called the roster good, what I did say about people's brain, what I did say about the team having an opportunity to compete for the Super Bowl was because of Jaden Daniels, but I never thought that the roster was good.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that, I thought that,
• 19:03
  [UNKNOWN]: position group.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: There is a veteran presence there.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, in the past with the wrong reverberation, you didn't necessarily have that.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: So guys were just learning on the fly.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Am I being sabotaged on my own, sir?
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: But this is important, bro, because you can't, you, and I, I, I, I'll take, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even, I can't
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is a perfect time to clip up because there's no way that you're going to go this hard about go this hard about AP and it's rather construction and now now granted to answer your question it was a slight sabotage, but I also think that I think that's because it's like, I think it's important.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't even know what you refer to so I literally was just talking and I thought I thought that there was something going on in the background So I don't even know what was said so you could play it again
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: So what's important is I gave you I gave not give the audience 10 seconds.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, this is this is three minutes worth I'm not going to do it.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: So play you want to play you want to play everything bro if you if you're going to play it play it because I I think you got you got to remember right we do this show all year so I'm not going to remember every single thing that I say so help me I don't stand what I said
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't disagree what you're saying.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I also also want to acknowledge, yes, like fat out it was semi sabotage.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: It was not intentional in a sense of like I'm going to discredit everything you're saying.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just think it's important like you cannot forget certain things as you say.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: In the sense of, hey,
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like what they were doing this all season.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is a minimum 12 when team.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: They ought to make it back.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm expecting conference championship to a Super Bowl.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's those are the things that I can remember.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of us saying, I say it bare minimum.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I say nine wins, four.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see it four nine wins.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see it's one in 10 10 games drapes around the same page.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: You said 12 wins.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: You said we should be looking for Super Bowl like these are things that's hard to forget.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: And also, again, what I was what I was actually playing a snippet of was around the time that you even you told about bond, middle of coming to the team.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you went across the board about how you like everything from both sides of the ball, how they were doing except, and you credit for this, let's say the position.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the one thing you was consistent about what you said.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: You don't trust these safety, you don't fucking these safety.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the only reason why I'm doing this is only because it's important, because if you say AP constructed this roster poor, you can, is no way that you forget.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: In the summertime that this thing was completely, it was a completely different lens, but that's all I'm saying.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I acknowledge one thing.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can acknowledge, all right, I know what they're, I know what they're, shadows you with us.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll let you play it out.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: But if you fuck up, that's one of you.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they clearly fucked up and they gave that to that old people we're going to let this shit rock out with these old
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: But let's not sit here and say, the roster is construction was poor.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: As if that's just something we kind of all nudists entire time.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: We wasn't always feeling like that, bro.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I've been, I've been saying a lot of things about API.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that they shouldn't have resigned Terry McClellan.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that they should have traded for, for Tariq.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's,
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you go into the all season with a plan to store up your office of line and to sort of your defensive line, to stop the run, you're bringing in Dietrich Wise to play the A's, to stop the run, I'm thinking that you should be better in the sense of going against the Philadelphia Eagles, who is one of your primary targets that just trying to battle against, because you just got your ass whip by them in the Comfort Championship game.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I never thought that the roster would
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Especially with adding in a learned utensil, a debo Samuel, and I guess doing whatever they thought they were doing to store up the offensive and defensive lines, so I did expect them to be 12 and 5 or better.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I just seen what they did year one, and I seen them also get one game away from the Super Bowl, so I'm not going to, I'm not going to backtrack on that, but the roster still.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it where it should be?
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: You still have major holes where you thought that you might have filled the gaps and I think
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that that's been like a consistent thing for all of us as we watched the season without Jayden Daniels out there This is a very mediocre team overall like he was one thing I am from all over the street They was some shit with Jayden on the field too.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm not cutting you off from your point But I'm just and this is that's that's actually part of the problem.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: They were I mean You think it was the shit the defense was the shit, but the office was the office was top five a top
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: they were top 15 they were around like they were hovering around middle of the pack they were one of the worst third down offices they were one of the most penalized offices that's the that's the complete opposite of what they were last year but what we're then resting yards they were still um like number one number two
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so they had they had a productive offense, but that dropped off in them on the field and they were Converse around no brother bad drop the jay didn't got hurt and we too bro Jay didn't got hurt and we too they were our number one rush offense win the mark Mary I was on the field too and then a drop off happened after the charges game I we know that you wasn't talking about you're talking about this here.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about last year under cliff
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't know what they're talking about when I'm talking about is they had a top office last year that also made up for the fact that the defense was so poor this year everything is as you feel me the office is not clicking the way that it was last year and the defense is still the defense, but the office damn short don't look like the office that we was last year, I think we all can say that, but I mean at the end of day.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: whatever was played is what was played.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying like, I'll send you to I still feel that Adam, if you also didn't know before has been a poor job in constructing this roster overall and you're getting to see the rumors of that.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you can't.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, look, my bad, this, this is your, why can't I?
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bro, like, you can't, you can't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me just give the, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's go on.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: This, no, listen to what I'm saying, you ain't even, I'm saying, you can't just sit in here and not acknowledge, you, I mean, or you can't forget why, how, how you, uh, proceed this roster and all season for, like, there's no way that you forgot about that.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: how I perceived that.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just said everything starts and ends with Jaden Daniels.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: If Jaden Daniels is healthy, if Jaden Daniels is healthy, you should have a shot.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And if you go ahead and you add a Ken Law, you add a Dietrich Wise into the mix of fill the positions of a Clellum's Pharaoh, for example, with Jonathan Allen, the team should be able to get back to the same position or better.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was my whole conception of what I was saying.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I still believe that he could have improved the other situations.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I still believe that he shouldn't have painted McCleuron.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I still say that.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I still believe that he should have possibly tried to go get Tyre Kills, like a difference maker, all facially.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, they didn't do that.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Even defensively, they didn't add anybody to the past.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was completely against the Josh currently picked.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we were here live during the
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: never expected them to take a tackle with what the twenty-nice picking the draft.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I never expected that.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, I just think that, you know, at the end of the day, when I said that comment, that was really based off of Jaden Daniels.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't necessarily, oh, they now have added a lead talent.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's Jaden Daniels, everything starts in ends with him and on top of that health.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: They were a healthy team last year.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jayden Daniels, yes, he missed what a game and a half or something, but at the end of the day, there were a healthy roster with a highly productive offense that could mask also what they're doing defensively.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: They don't have either one of those.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nor do they have they starting quarterback.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: The jury, my bad.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: You got, you got the floor brother.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, in Sanjay's point, I think the offense, I don't even think the offense could
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: his but he's the mistake now he had a fairly successful first year right i mean most of his free agent picks hit i mean they were the same guys were all called ass now you know the bobby wagon is the frankly luvus you know um the jerry chins whatever you know he signed all of those guys and those guys pretty much hit their first year even though you didn't have a great defense
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You still were doing, and you still was able to do enough to win games with the office, what's given you on a consistent basis.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this year, Adam Peters tried to have same strategy.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: He went back to that well, because they didn't have enough strategy.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he had to go back to that one year, stop got well, initiate just simply didn't work.
• 28:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you probably can go through the list and say, this didn't work, this didn't work.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's what Adam Peters.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But as far as talking about fire, him, and getting rid of him because he made a mistake,
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't get one time to clean up his mess.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's how that's all I'll give a GM.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think a GM just one time to clean up his mess You know one change This is it.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's all you talk when you talk about two I said you wrong.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just yeah, I know yeah Now I get it, but I'm saying when you we talk about two years in yeah one successful year
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one bad year.
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And imagine, this is not easy task.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: This roster, this cleanup, you know, don't what you need to do to make this roster be sustainable, compete at a high level with the Philadelphia Eagles, the Rams, the Seahaw's, all those things.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not easy for anybody to come in for what they had to do with it.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Adam Peters, like I said, he did the one year thing last year and he tried it again and he didn't work this year.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's she.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He won Adam Peters.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: But going back to what you see on the field is still so hard when to malls point.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: watching that defense, everything's easy against them.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it does look like a professional unit.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I know someone to separate the coaches from the players, but I think everybody owns it.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We already talked about Adipetus.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Adipetus is first the line of own it, but then you gotta go to the next to the coach's staff and the players, like how are you that bad as a unit?
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like even when you don't have great personality, we were talking about the future of guise and all of the guys that you have before the injuries happened.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: They still weren't a good unit and they still would kind of get a rigged over the codes.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: But even with all of that, you still don't expect the net look like an NFL unit.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this unit can't stop anything.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Detroit and Ryan's could have probably went out there and got 800 yards of total office if they wanted to in this game.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: probably in the last four weeks, this team is getting blown out.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: and sports treat weeks, and nothing looks like the defense doesn't look like they can do anything.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, sometimes they might accidentally get a turnover.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, oh, man, Mike is saying we're still there in aception, but that's so rare.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, even a stop feels rare.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like nothing feels like, I mean, they're getting seven yards of carry it, whether the run-and-vets it looks like receivers are open.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm talking about watching the same thing over and over, like last, you know, game, Detroit.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: two guys follow on one receiver like you just got one underneath super wide up when that without any one in the 15-yard radius of them.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is a constant thing like how are you this bad?
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the personnel's bad, but the coaching is bad as well.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't expect it to get any different with Dan Quinn.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: They all call it a place.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think Dan Quinn might be the one Joe with a little bit of a favorite now, because now the tension's going to be squarely on Dan Quinn and why this unit is so bad.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So,
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's unexplainable, but what I will say is going back to Adam Peters.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has a fire lid on this ass now, and we're going to see how he performs when he needs wood.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has to be urgent.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has to be kind of urgent and how moves this summer.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can't go back to the same strategy, because this time it didn't work.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how did you change up your roster building and what do you do?
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to start looking to trade away guys like what's that method going to be but we have to see something different than what he pulled this off season.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, but should he be allowed to do that?
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because yes, if you give him if you give him year three going into year four, you now have to pay Jayden.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: You, you got to pay Jayden.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to pay Jayden.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're going to, you're going to pay him.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: But now that new GM
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: is is now pretty must have it to roster rebuild once again with Jay and now you talk about feeders are you talking about Dan Quinn.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm I'm saying like so if you give Adam Peter's another chance to talk about Dan Quinn, huh?
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Use them about Dan Quinn right, right when you mentioned us has the five of them.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was on the Adam Peter's.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: So so when I'm saying is with Adam Peter's, if you give him another shot and it doesn't
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now going into the year four was an extension eligibility period for Jaden Daniels, this new GM that would come in now would have to try to get a roster to get to a certain point of the next level now also having to pay Jaden no longer on this rookie contract.
• 33:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you should, you better off like firing the GM and letting that person cut.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: and trying to get to that point.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a who can you hire right now because this doesn't look more attractive now than it did a couple of years ago.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was attractive a couple of years ago when you said I got the number two traffic.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got this amount of cap space and everything.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: But now you fire a GM in two years.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, how many people are lining up the work for Josh Harris when he realized I don't have enough time to kind of, you know, do what I need to do and on top of that, the situation ain't all that attractive now, you know, I don't have another two-pin, I only got a limited draft fix and everything, how many GMs are lining up to take that job when they know the owner doesn't have patience and it's not all that attractive over roster right now, they have to do a lot.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't think the owner doesn't have paces.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's also a competitive thing.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I know I'm way better than them.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a fucker that constructed that roster.
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, at the end of the day, this person's going to give me all the resources I need to do my job.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that we've seen Adam Peters do a little bit of Dollar Tree shopping, you know?
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, there were players out there, but like you just said,
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: The iron was hot this all season to go spend that money and lore and certain guys like
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know that possibly could have made a difference.
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now you're going in the year three where we don't know where this team is going to finish.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: They probably going to finish with a top 10 pick.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be as convincing to be able to bring in certain guys into the fold when let's say if Adam Peters does return and Dan Quinn return that they're on the hot seat.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because let's keep it above.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like no matter how the rest of this season plays out, year three if they retain both of them, they're on the hot seat.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: like they either got a show up or they're out the door.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just one of those things for me, where it's like I rather pivot now versus waiting to do that going in the year for where Jen and Danes is eligible to be the highest paid quarterback in NFL history.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's exactly what it's going to be like I don't think that anyone's going to be scared to take the job or feel that Josh Harris is not giving them an ample opportunity I mean he's giving Adam Peters all the tools and another thing that I want people to remember is this is Adam Peters and Dan Quinn's first time ever doing anything together It's not like they had a rapport with one another coming into this so it may just not be working like because there's obviously a disc
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: by that's a that's an assumption based on your based on your feelings and and and one day yeah and and it's one bad year and and i think when you when you look at it like that that's not even that's not even a safe space to operate right from a uh uh a position that if you're a job here is but i don't like you can't you can't sit here and say
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: But we did it great year one, but this season has been terrible.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: And now that I think about it, like the way in which he operated from a roster construction standpoint, despite the injuries, we suck.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: And it's all his fault.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's, let's, let me go ahead and start over.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, that's, that's, that seems, that sounds like a brass and patient, um,
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't even know the words described, but I don't even know the language, but I think we can look at it two different ways though, like New England Patriots fired their codes last year, kept the same GM, brought in what we know how they fired them.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the same reason why Arizona fire sea looks after one year.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: We know how they fired them.
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: But they made him a state, they made him a state to hire a student in the first place.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's, no disrespect because, because like, what's his name again?
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: The D'Linebacker and D'Romeo.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not even his fault.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're like, you brought him to do it.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: No head coach experience, not even close to it.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you knew if we kept him for a year, we'd probably be terrible, but it worked out for us because we'll have a top five draft pick.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: And we could just fire him out the end of the season for him.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: They do that with a lot of black coaches.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you know that.
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you also could be the New York Giants where you keep the head coach too long and you keep the GM too long.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're also saying that they're going to let Joe seem pick the next head coach.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, and he's brought in talent defensively.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like is that is that is that his fault that they can't get shit right him they balling in his step is that his fault because they got some dogs Is that is that that is that the is that she's wrong now I'm not saying he may write decisions because let's say when I go especially knowing that he had a potential to go back to fucking Pennsylvania
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying he did it right, but I'm talking about from a roster construction standpoint if you're talking about certain things that he's done now granted Offensively you never got the quarterback position right up until the point you've got that Jackson dark right you got potential there But even still like all I'm saying when you talk about Adam Peters you're actually proven the point in that They gave some ample opportunity to get it together
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: You don't, you don't, and even in New York, they didn't go as far as Adam Petersen Dan Quick did in year one.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the three or four years they've been together, they haven't been as far as Dan Quinn and Adam Petersen in year one.
• 38:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you're trying to convince, if you're an owner, AJ, you're trying to convince your fans.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: And anybody that's interested in doing business with you from a staff and roster standpoint that I can trust you to keep the people that brought me in here.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: for more than a year because like if we don't look good in a certain period or or sustain period of time, we not even want to have another chance to try to get this on the right ship.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that Adam Peters is in a spice where you have to let him fix his mistakes.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if he doesn't, if he doesn't turn things around in 2020, 2016, then you see how much more
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: But after two years, Brad, that's premature.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: If there's going to be any changes on this with this team, outside of the players standpoint, you need to be looking at assistant coaches and coordinators.
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think this is a perfect time to even talk about the day and Quinn and his pressure yesterday.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Cause he said, hey, Brad, that man said, I'm taking over
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: the role as defensive coordinator in all that entails like he said Joe went you just go up in the booth and I'll hit you up when I need you.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's all.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is Joe with title now?
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: He look he's a defensive analyst.
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: I have no idea what the fuck he'd be all over.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: But to that point like he's now you got Dan Quinn in the role where it's like he know Dan will he want to do this.
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: But at this point where you're back against the wall too, I think Adam Peter's back against the wall this all season, 100% but right now, you got to figure out as Dan Quinn, like how are you going to make this season somewhat salvageable, not from a standpoint of winning games because if you, if you real just season over it, he's not going to, he's not going to think that.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: But if you real like it's like how do I make this season salvageable, how do I get the best out of our younger guys?
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: So we got something to look forward to in the future.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if none of your guys take to your coaching and your game planning and your philosophy.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: You want to you want to big old to where but here's the thing you can't take on the role as the hand coaching and now you're you're calling the place and then revert back to hiring a DC next year.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: So if you are retained you you can't do that.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, like, like, how do you, like, how do you, how do you know, let me be clear to let me be clear.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I actually understand you're actually understand your angle.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I want to make sure I want to make sure that you, at least know the agent like I actually simply speaking, like, because if you make this decision, odds are generally you're out the door to if it, if it fails, like, that's generally what things look like if it wasn't like this specific situation, cultures who fire or demote their coordinator.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: or the, yeah, don't coordinate or offensive defensive, doesn't work, you're probably out of the door too, that Jimmy fireworks, but Dan Quinn has relationships.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's another thing that we talked about when he got hired.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's gonna be people who wanna work for him and give him another opportunity.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Same way, we know that Cliff is probably out of the door too.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: He gonna go somewhere with us, college and NFL.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: He probably out of the door too.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: So there's gonna be people who wanna work with Jaden Danes.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I just think that it's kinda,
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we don't know what's going on behind closed doors, right?
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think for Dan Quinn to do this, he must know that his job is on the line right now.
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: because it I don't think that you could take over defensive play calling and then next year say that you're going to hire you're going to go and search the the market place for a decordinated replace that person like I mean to replace who you now are calling the place as the coach I don't think you could do that like I mean actually it's kind of like Buffalo bills.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, when Leslie Fraser was calling the defense for Sean McDermott and Leslie Fraser decided to walk away, they couldn't replace somebody else to go call those plays.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sean McDermott took it over and has been calling the defense.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just, I don't know how you could just say, I'm going to call it for the rest of these games.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then in the office, I'm going to go look for a new defense coordinator.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: when you were brought in because of your defensive skill set and what you did in Dallas and what you did with other teams such as Seattle.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I understand that.
• 43:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're making
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was just saying, I don't think he was totally brought in for what he brings in, you know, on the defensive side.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think obviously that was, you know, one of the perks, but I think more to it is what you alluded to earlier was the relationships, you know, and what he brings as a culture guy, you know, especially when you're talking about building something new for the ground up, which Adam Peters was tasked to do and I guess he thought Dan going will be one of the perfect candidates.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: to do so as he's known as a culture guy around the league and the culture look good last year then when you lose and the culture looks bad but I mean as far as you know going on up through next season and you know this being his last you know kind of a rod him being the discordant though because for one
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that he's going to change anything drastically on this defense for the rest of the season.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would, so to speak, keep his job.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think he's probably pulling this more sort of kind of shield Joe with because of the respect he asked for Joe with.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to probably take the run of it.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this, this definitely means.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: something's going to happen.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's all season.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Vancouver is going to kind of assume the duties or keep those duties going for.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or if he's going to kind of look outside of the family, like I personally think or hope that he would look outside of the family of his own coaching tree.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's plenty of places, look at Denver, look at Seattle, you know, get someone from those trees and that's, you know, yeah, and I think the Dan Quinn kind of merge philosophies and that I help him going forward, you know, I think him right now lean in too much on his own tree.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have any different answers right now in the other than what he knows.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, if he really wants to be the CEO coach and, you know, be the guy that doesn't want to have his hands directly in the pot, you know, every play, then yeah, I think he should go outside of the family, but that's definitely going to be a decision to Dan Quinn.
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's to make this off season, whether he wants to keep doing this or if you're going to look so that's what they do it.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you made a great point and honestly AJ made a a great point too initially when he talked about.
• 45:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: The the McDermott or yeah, McDermott comparison in Buffalo.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you, if you have to, if you have to re-tool in, and obviously like, call your plays as a hit coach, you may not want to do it, but, you know, if that's what got you to job, right, your, your defenses, but also your ability, primarily your ability to cultivate strong locker rooms and strong sense of brotherhood.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's, that's important, but also we need you to coach a little bit.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Get your hands, get your hands like a now.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's not wrong with it like that doesn't mean like if it fails it's like it's over for you right we got to we got to judge the circumstances about the circumstances however that looks like in 2026 right but one thing I do want to bring up and you are touched on it but it's like do you go outside the box moving forward one of the big things that Dan Quinn was harpen on and that that season or 2024 when he was hired
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: He self-ordered it.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: He had an audit conducted on his practices and I moved and I think it's really important and moments like this when all season does come around that you lean on what you learned about yourself.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, if you feel like, you know, you held on to these relationships a little bit too long or among other things like, cause I don't know all the details of what you learned.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Then, how do you, how do you find better?
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: How do you find something that works?
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Cause you can find something outside of your circle as you mentioned, where it's like, all right, we have chemistry as, as a, from a philosophical standpoint.
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think I understand what you're saying.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think we can work well together.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: While I don't know you like I knew other people, let's get us a shot.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, that may be risky in the state and where Washington is, but at the same time, like, you know, going with what you know can get you in trouble, just as much as going with you don't know.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: I never forget, like Jay Groot and Brett, you brought Wade Phillips and just to try to embarrass him in an interview.
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: And Wade Phillips was by far the best coordinator that you probably would have had opportunity to hire and your tenure here in Washington and you chose to embarrass him in an interview.
• 47:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: So like, I think there's opportunity there either way, like you want to try to call the place, I think there's something there for you.
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: But if you want to really,
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: get better like look for the best in the league that's available to you.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I wonder what's right is going to take because that can actually tell us a lot in terms of how he's how he's processing like if he's going to stick in his comfort zone or if he's actually going to go for it.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe he never cliff like maybe he's saying it never worked with fifth or fourth and yeah so he needs to do that on a defensive set.
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but just I guess this thing
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know if you're gonna get another head coaching opportunity, right?
• 48:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: And when you did, when you did get that job offer, the first person on your list that you want to ask the coordinator was Joe with Jr.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, I get it.
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I get it from his standpoint.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: He feels like he's knowledgeable about the game and well enough to do at the position, but it's like, who, I don't know who else is out there.
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I truly don't know who else is out there
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: have been under him like a raw him or a Jeff or your brick or whatever the case is.
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're both in Atlanta together.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just like I don't really I don't really know.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like if you say he needs to do another audit, I mean if Joe with Jr. was number one damn who's number who was number two?
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because the dance floor wasn't something, it wasn't somebody with the homework.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll hear it.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: So what's the name?
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: What's the name?
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Out here.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see it.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll hear it.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Out here.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they couldn't snack.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: They couldn't.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: They couldn't.
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean, it's just, I guess for me, like, I guess you could say, maybe Joe with Junior, maybe not calling the plays at the exact moment, maybe more season guy would call, but he's running DQ system.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's running the system that they familiar with.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't, I don't know, bruh, that I think to that point though, that I should play your aspect, I think to that point though, like the way you can communicate with your guys is important, but also like understanding the flow of the game, like just just think about it for like, deadlines on that job that James Williams court that touchdown.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: but they call it like the same play four times that driver.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they just kept running that shit.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, there's no way that you look at that.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And as a coordinator and say, all right, I don't know what to do.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I'm calling, I'm calling this, I'm calling that, and I just don't know what to do.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: There has to be a anticipatory factor
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're play calling.
• 50:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, the players need to know better, too.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm not sitting here and blaming Joe with, but what I'm actually bringing light to is that maybe Dan Quinn has a better feel for the game than Joe with.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's also a factor that people aren't going to be able to take into account.
• 50:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: These last sorts of games, it's going to help us figure that out.
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Players from a player standpoint, like the UC incremental improvements from
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: not individual players, but from units.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do you see incremental improvement from your defensive line?
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Your linebackers, your cornerbacks, your safety's like, do you see something?
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: And
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you do see something, what is the reason behind it?
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think those are things that's important to know this.
• 51:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, granted, it sucks that Tray, almost is out for the season, you know, broken favorite.
• 51:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: You would have loved to use them in this in this moment where you're transitioning from one coordinated to another.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: And now you just basically using makeshift, guys.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, it's funny, ironically enough.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't know.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to say Mike Samson might go outside, but they kept him in the slot this week.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: So he may stay in the slot still and put no economy outside.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like basically, you just, you just suffered under the deck at this point, bro.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I guess I was going to stay like, it was also bad week for Joe with Jr.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: overall the team that he's facing from a talent standpoint and then the lines decided not to use their primarily a primary office of coordinator that's been calling the plays all season.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: They switched to Dan Campbell.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: So now anything that you pretty much looking at on tape is not the same.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like so you're gang planning for a coordinator that you didn't even know what's going to be calling the plays.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: So anything that you went into thinking from this standpoint, this person likes to do this, likes to do that.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: The whole ideology got changed on Sunday because now Dan Campbell was calling the place and not Johnny Morton.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, either way, would have been the score that it would have been and because they had better skill players, but it's like you really didn't have
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Shaylon Berkshire to Spanker.
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's out for a week.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Danny, make the trip.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Finn, right in, already.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Abram, by the same.
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, Abram, welcome to the team.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: You ain't, you ain't, you ain't, you ain't, you ain't to watch the documentary you get hurt.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to say that right now the way things going and he looked good too.
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the great spots on Sunday.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that was a big deal like so granted they did say he's not expecting to be out for a long time, but I mean, yeah, fingers hurt you for it.
• 52:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, it's about week after this after the Miami game too.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, maybe he does come back after the
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, we ended with this conversation to me.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter at all.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if he does cool, I mean, I hope Jay to come.
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he, if they want to put him back out there, I mean, I'm sure Jay to watch the go out there play then obviously I'm just looking for him in the in the season on the high note something to, you know, just kind of give himself some self-confidence like, yeah, I'm still here because I could still do this.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if they don't, I'm perfectly fine with it because at this point, I want my top five.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't say it so, but I mean, different on it.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't make a difference.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I probably lean more towards the side of just sitting for the rest of the damn season, just because I am in top five, picked territory.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I mean, you obviously not going to be competing for anything.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't put Jayden out there.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Think it's useless.
• 54:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Also believe that Cliff will be taking another job.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: As either a head coach or a head coach NFL or collegiate wise makes no sense for him to get reps in this offense when it's going to be a different office of scheme next year anyways.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think like you guys touched on with DQ's relationship if he does stay.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: We kind of talked about it last week with Ryan Fowler.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mike McDaniel was expected to be the head runner for that OC position.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just makes no sense to have Jaden come out there and do what, like, it just makes no sense.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let Marcus Mario to maybe finish out his career or Josh Johnson, let's end this and wrap Sam Martin.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Sam Hartman is the career where you think it's over for?
• 54:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I played for another one years.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I mean, I just think, I know, the way he was playing Sunday bread.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: That man was Sean, he was trying to end his career.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: that they hurt him.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might even, I might even if I'm dead, they're clean.
• 55:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might, I might let to be a preacher and David Blau call three games each.
• 55:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because like Cliff is not returning.
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it a guarantee that he's done like you think he's other than is is way too.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a job out there with with crazy
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: that he's not bound to get one of them.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I mean, what you got LSU open, Auburn, Florida, Penn State, what else is open?
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know I'm missing a school.
• 55:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I love you.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you're mentioning that, but yeah, Dan, you mentioned that in the chat.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's a question prior.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then if I kind of wrote Florida, like they're going to throw bags at him.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like they're going to throw
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: big bags at him and that's not to say he's going to do a great job, but I mean, but there's one thing for so he know how to talk to cool, he know how to talk to QB, you know how to handle them.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: So like whoever, whoever get them, they're going to have some, they're going to have some success at the quarterback spot.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just like, it's just one of those things where he's bound to get one of those jobs and and Washington may not be able to retain him.
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think that's
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I'll be quick because I think money ball asks a good question to, uh, I don't think James should play.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think Terry should play.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think one of the, and y'all touched on a lot.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: So a lot that I agree on.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, the coordinator aspect is one thing.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's unique.
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I got a lot to AJ, but from a place standpoint, I, well, first of all, what's important, we should also know, like the injury timeline is like anywhere between three to six weeks, Dan Quincy, he hasn't put thoughts to like his timeline of return because he, he, he heals so quickly, but very like if we talk about six week timeline in terms of adverse like there's nothing to say that, you know,
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: he's going to be ready in a couple weeks.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: He may need more time.
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you lose against Miami, hit the bow week, lose against Denver.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: There is no point in you playing.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, granted, there are divisional games and divisional games on our point because you can play spoiler and for for javing the comeback in those situations in terms of having the ability to
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: But there's one thing for sure.
• 57:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Out of that, I've learned that time again with this same alone.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then, of course, the NFL, but this same alone.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: There is no such thing as ending a season with good momentum to carry into the next season.
• 58:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: That shit is a myth.
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: So,
• 58:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: thinking that you can put jaded in or have a team finished strong in the last two three games of the season and think that that's going to carry into the next season, like that's one of the worst mistakes anybody can make.
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: So if you don't think that he can play or you think you don't think he can protect himself this season, especially if the season is lost, right, just let them let them rest up right get ready in the old season.
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, what was the question?
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Money boy, I said, okay.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: My, a money boy as what do you think about Mario this comm is after the game we don't think we don't we don't I don't think we are who we think we are You muted AJ if you're talking I mean, yeah, I think I think I think that's room.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I also think that my Miller's comments today with that in day in the know.
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Also, yeah, I didn't I don't know.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't think that it's a defest of coaches.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: He think that Joe with Junior has been doing everything in his power to get the guys prepared and ready on the field, whether he's on the on the field or in the booth.
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then also with DQ calling the plays, he pretty much was just saying, like, it's probably the players, like, you know, we still got to execute.
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it seemed like he was saying it's a lack of talent.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: he got to say that just as well as the coaches have to take the count of building your man.
• 59:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: But as far as Mario, Mario goes, Mario, he just said we all been saying all season.
• 59:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll be ball kind of known all season.
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We aren't who we think we are.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We haven't been who we thought we are all season.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he took a what 10 games to come to the realization.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Kudos, but yeah, I mean, it's true.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um,
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if he was a looting to them as players or them as a whole organization, Dan Klin, the coach or staff or whatever, because maybe he was kind of throwing the shot at them, saying, they still think we're here or we're not, but what do you do with that?
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, how do you, if you're going for it for the rest of the season, like what do you do with that as a mentality thing?
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how do you change that?
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because, yeah, you're not in any of you,
• 1:00:25
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• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was first first time news is man.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: You gonna get that bonus Yeah, I don't know bro Um
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's set it and he left it up for interpretation through the media, and interpretation for his team mates through the media.
• 1:01:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: uh, I think when you look at Washington and and how Marcus is viewed this team, like you got to think like he, he went from like some of the highs of highs last year.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: And probably like the most success he's seen and actually been a part of like sure he's he's had seasons where he's been the long-term starter.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's he's won 13 games in the season.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's won play all games before.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: But like,
• 1:01:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: the way in which last season went like I can guarantee you he's probably never experienced nothing like that in terms of a professional.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that was a big deal for him.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: He got the seed from a whole different perspective as a QB2, but also played meaningful games last year.
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like that Dallas Cowboy game.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: He had a big part in for a while.
• 1:01:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Washington had to go on the road against Tampa as opposed to playing Philly in the wild cart round.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like that was because you came in and won the game for Washington.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you had a game when the touchdown passed, right?
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's had experience in a perspective that, you know,
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: under-appreciate on the roster and to see like where things have gone from last year to this year and he's the starter and he knows like it's not much he can do in terms of like putting team on his back knowing that you know anytime he steps on the field he's playing with a seven point deficit to start the game like and like your offense is injured you don't have Terry and you may have Terry for a game you may have Terry for a quarter and he got to work out with
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: And, like, there's never been a no a brown, never had no a brown right Brian Robinson is gone right like turns of like being able to get something to tough yards.
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not sitting here saying like I'm not over here doing the ad a few to stay and you messed up the roster thing I'm just saying like things are different.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: And when you look at like who we think we are, who would a team may view what they thought they were, you know.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think 2025 just may ultimately end up being a for those who make it to the Russia of 2026 is just an ultimately a big learn and lesson.
• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Mario is actually a free agent after this year.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's going to be several free agents.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Zach Earth is going to be gone.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Bobby Wagner, I think he's going to be gone.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, no a brown, of course, like he didn't play this year, but he's gone, um, uh, Debo Samuel, he's gone.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and I'm talking about free agency.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: They can choose to resign people, but I'm just saying from a free instant standpoint, like they're on the last year they do.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and, and I think when you look at, I mean, what's Tyler Biotters probably has one season left, but, you know, he may be gone.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know who knows what it looks like.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Um,
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  [SPEAKER_05]: So I think for Washington and Mary Oda understanding that this team is everybody that's going to be here moving forward.
• 1:03:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like you got like 35, 36 players, that's going to be on your roster for short, following 2025.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: These people don't have to understand what this season meant.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: And despite the injuries, Brad, like you all weren't focused the way you should have been.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: And maybe he expressed that to these guys, bro.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Money ball.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm ready to make himself some good money for this all season.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's for sure.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's probably true.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: That's go.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate it by the second in live.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Checking it through the chat.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Man, hit that like button.
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• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate all the conversation.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I've been obviously tapped in this whole time reading what you all have been saying.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's go say it's standing say it brown.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Not coming back.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: They just signed to why me for sure.
• 1:04:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, first of all, let's go.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: You ain't got to tell us.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: No, Brown ain't coming back.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Man, wasting a time.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That opinion should be fired.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not if he resides him.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then that would be.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be AJ in if he resides.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:04:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 1:04:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: There were a money.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: They will get a few supplemental picks for the 20, 27 drive.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: They lose a bunch of people to other teams.
• 1:05:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, uh, compensatory pace.
• 1:05:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Really meant to say.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: And money ball said I'm so ready for Ben's Senate.
• 1:05:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why I read it.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I shouldn't have read it.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: That was a mistake money ball.
• 1:05:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, let's end this on the positive note, man.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: AJ, bro, what's the first thing you doing?
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you get down to Spain, bro.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, look, you're going to the U.
• 1:05:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: They got brothels out there, bro.
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they get some tapas, bro.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, AJ, don't eat them for a food like that, but get some tapas when you go out there.
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what I'm doing.
• 1:05:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm my Charleston.
• 1:05:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm my Charleston Chirros.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I never had a Chirros before.
• 1:05:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's Mexico.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'd say it's Mexico.
• 1:05:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's Spain, man.
• 1:05:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's Mexico.
• 1:05:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's my chance.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's Spain, it's in tapas.
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Go to Italian restaurant.
• 1:05:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I Charleston tapas.
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: figure out the full, I tend to wear a Asian right, but I mean, I think what I get there 11 o'clock.
• 1:05:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm gonna get a, get a, what's that you don't call it?
• 1:05:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I saw earlier.
• 1:05:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, Calamari Sub, bro.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a, I'm a, I'm a loser to see food.
• 1:06:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a die.
• 1:06:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, get to try it.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Get you some paella, paella.
• 1:06:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm a die, I'm a die again.
• 1:06:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
• 1:06:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's paella?
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a race this is a Spanish race dish where it comes with anything, you know, what age you learn every plane like, maybe put seafood in it.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to get seafood, they got heat, you know.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you won't have to learn Spanish, but I tell them, tell them, look, man, no seafood in the payers, bro.
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, I'm just telling them, tell them, tell them, don't you?
• 1:06:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you ain't allergic to, you know, to Keela.
• 1:06:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna be living through you on your stories, bro.
• 1:06:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got all these, I got this spot with the science, have you birthday, any more, all this stuff?
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you not come in, so.
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess we still, we actually believe you too.
• 1:07:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: We still gonna put the science up for you and spirit.
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: and get it on video so he can see it too.
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, funny enough, it's a lot of people going.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Bro, like, maybe that it's a lot of people going.
• 1:07:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a poor game, you know?
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: So the weather's supposed to rain starting on a thing Friday, but I mean, yeah, make the best out of it, man, and it's a beautiful country.
• 1:07:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just got to see where all the air is to do and sightseeing, but there'll be a lot of,
• 1:07:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of commanders fans out there, anybody that's the trapper die fan.
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you're out there, hit me up on X and try to see the Miami and see the Miami women bird.
• 1:07:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm trying to see.
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what sucks, what sucks is.
• 1:07:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: AJ, you're fine.
• 1:07:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You and me out there, you know, whatever regular time.
• 1:07:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me and Morgan wake up around eight o'clock and nine o'clock just to watch this then game.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that game at three o'clock local time, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm not even going to convert to the six hour time difference bro, like you got a day and I highly doubt it, honestly, I don't think I've ever done six hour time difference for it, so yeah, that's going to be it was real you went to Brazil right, well, Brazil is like, I think Brazil is the same time with like an hour to a camera.
• 1:08:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember, bro.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: What club you gave you, bro?
• 1:08:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: You go there all the time?
• 1:08:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: That joint is just an hour, bro.
• 1:08:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:08:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That shit could have been same time I wouldn't know.
• 1:08:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, that's why we need to take you out there, bro.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, that's the whole other topic.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I mean, the judge should be cool, bro.
• 1:08:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, that free should be a good vibe for the fans, the energy.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, go to the bodies, bro.
• 1:08:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe I'll run in the terrible corner some sites in here.
• 1:08:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I still you, we might, we might do a little M prom through a interview.
• 1:09:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, do that.
• 1:09:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I put it on the, uh, the Shopify Instagram jump, bro.
• 1:09:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so we'll have it all done, that's it.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, man.
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, look, everybody enjoy your evening with AJ will or best travel travel prayers, I guess.
• 1:09:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's what it's called and are you going to be around Thursday for the show?
• 1:09:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to charge I'm not there's no obligation because I don't know.
• 1:09:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I should I should be straight what I said I get there at eight or 11.
• 1:09:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So remember what time it is like we at seven you gonna be at one one a clock to a game.
• 1:09:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't I don't know what I'm doing Thursday yet, but I mean I probably probably being the career.
• 1:09:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to say too much on here, you know, my girl my girl might be watching.
• 1:09:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so you're planning to be in the club every second Yeah, I know now.
• 1:10:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm in the club.
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, no, because I when I told her when she was asking about the trip, I was like, yeah, me and more
• 1:10:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: going to be on this series.
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: She was like, so is this a boy's trip?
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, nah, man, we, we going out there to, that's commander's face.
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: For the team, man, I got business to do is she's just like, hmm, okay, we'll see how you behave.
• 1:10:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And now I tell her that you ain't going, she's like, so what are you going to do?
• 1:10:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I can't win, bro.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: As a lab, but I really did, like, I was concentrating on this shit so much, Brad.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you had to do what you had to do, ain't you?
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And no one had to anticipate what was going to take place when this guy announced, like, yeah, I think it's in my end of my room.
• 1:10:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I think, but no, but tomorrow, even then they're going out to do the vote, but at the same time, we don't, we ain't getting into the office, I don't think we're getting to the office.
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be happy.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't pay.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: So like FAA, they still gonna be dealing with this shit until whenever we start getting paid.
• 1:11:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:11:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: The whole, the whole thing is above this bro.
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now this man trying to give.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: $2,000 in tear dividends and our people are getting so excited when they bother to do it.
• 1:11:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: They, uh, they underdog are ready.
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: I said, I said, the same.
• 1:11:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like, bro, I don't know what you're doing.
• 1:11:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
• 1:11:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I see it.
• 1:11:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll take that 2k, but I know what you're doing.
• 1:11:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he know how to piece, you know how to piece.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'm in there too.
• 1:11:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: A little too cave, make you make you not think about telling your problems you have for the last three months.
• 1:11:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that a little too cave steamy.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, we about here, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you in the next video.
• 1:12:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna let him hit the hole, you're gonna cut it off, you're gonna play through for the long and you're gonna punch it off, you're the funny savvy hitters put your pads in, don't be looking for the ref to throw no flags in, keep that happening on, keep the police tight, you decide to win the win by any means right, you should never laugh, this is trippin' die.
• 1:12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Huh watchin' throw the bump we gon' pick it up you gon' light them hit the hole you gon' cut it up you gon' play through for the longer you gon' put it up you're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in don't be lookin' for the ref to throw no flags in keep the hell me know keep the police tight you the type you want to win by any means right you should look alive this is trapping out