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Commanders-Giants Post Game Recap · Trap or Dive

0:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying, huh, watchin' throw the ball, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' plug them from the long, you gon' put it up, you're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in, don't be lookin' for the rest, you don't don't flag them, keep the hammer on, keep the police tight, you the type you want to win by any means, right?
0:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You should look alive, this is trippin' down.
1:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going back to another episode of Shopify cash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am your host other Shopify cash moly mo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Jerry is in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a Washington commander's post game recap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Washington gets to the one road 2921 to the New York Giants battle battle of the who's the most terribleest.
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1:45
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1:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Live, um, 410 is better than 3 and 11 I guess.
2:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it depends on how you look at it because, um, you know, there was some open uh, uh, routers for the tankathon.
2:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so if you are in that boat, I am sorry.
2:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, not to say that I'm one way or another.
2:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in partial, but I know what this loss for the New York Giants met for some
2:23
[SPEAKER_00]: How you feeling, Jerry, I'll leave it there.
2:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I know how we're both feeling.
2:29
[SPEAKER_00]: This was one of the longest games ever for a game that you wanted to end as quickly as possible in the season as you wanted to end as quickly as possible.
2:37
[SPEAKER_00]: How you feeling, bro?
2:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I was on that tank train breath, and this is the first game I've been honestly, say I had jumped on the tank train and then every fucking thing went right today.
2:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything.
2:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike he's saying we're still looking good out there.
2:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's making plays.
2:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But if Jaylin Wayne reminds you, he's good again.
2:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Bill almost had a hundred y'all performance.
2:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard Frankie Lovos name the day.
2:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But I know it was wrecking habit.
3:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like so many things was just going right today that we hadn't seen all
3:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I was still looking for those wins the last couple of weeks, where was this a couple of weeks ago?
3:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I understand you're playing the jazz, Jackson Dart, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all.
3:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But they come out there and they had a performance today.
3:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at least to the extent of guys you wanted to see go out there for home.
3:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They perform well.
3:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but at the end of the day, you can't be too mad at the loss.
3:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at a win, you know, they needed one at this point.
3:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the jazz.
3:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It's always good to be too divisional.
3:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you kind of keep that street going.
3:35
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it for street games over the jazz?
3:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, all the normal man, I mean, you know, Dan Quinn probably needed this because I, you know,
3:43
[SPEAKER_01]: people are talking about fire at him and getting rid of him at the season if he goes on, you know, what it would have been 14 13 straight losses, whatever it would have been.
3:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That wouldn't have been a good look for him.
3:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, for that standpoint, you know, it's good for those guys.
3:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I don't know if I see another one for the rest of the season, but at least you got something right there to carry you on.
4:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But like I said, it's good to see some of those guys that you want to see look good.
4:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Even Vincent and Hannah catch today, he had a long catch.
4:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It was one catch.
4:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben said his name came up on the school board today,
4:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And help some of the people who were like, we don't need a tight end if we give Ben a chance.
4:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it depends on how you look at things.
4:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you in terms of just the overall nature of some people stepping up.
4:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Rodriguez was announced out pre-game.
4:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So like it came down to a game time decision I believe with him, man, and obviously as he came in, I mean, as he went out, Bill came in and told it 18 carries, 96 yards in the touchdown.
4:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Marcus Marriottah, 10 to 19 for 211 in the touchdown and 43 yards on the ground.
4:50
[SPEAKER_00]: One inexplicable fumble.
4:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, him and Jeremy Mcnick was, he's good for that once a game isn't the situation.
4:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand, bro.
4:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's like, Mr. Due to much, that's what I actually say.
5:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and if you're in a, if you're in this, like, you're in the grass.
5:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know exactly what he was doing.
5:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He was, he was trying to, uh, throw the ball to the receiver on the, on the, on the sideline.
5:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So he can avoid the sack, but I'm like, bro, you're in the grass.
5:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's someplace you just understand is, it's over.
5:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And for a person who's been in the league for 10 years, you know better.
5:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Show us a little frustrated sometimes saying that and overall outside of that he had a relatively solid day.
5:34
[SPEAKER_00]: To have 200 yards on 10 completions, just shows you like you were pushing the ball down the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Terry McClellan had himself a 50 yard touchdown.
5:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Three catches 69 yards.
5:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think offensively
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you're able to move the ball effectively as you did.
5:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it just kind of is what's the word?
5:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the exact words I'm thinking of, but it's painful to know like what could have been in a season of so many inconsistencies.
6:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And so much like just bad time, like injuries and all the other things that's just taking place.
6:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You're unable to get things done.
6:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Granted, I wanna acknowledge too because we're talking about a game where the commanders put up 29 on the 2012 Giants.
6:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
6:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not naive to the fact of the opponent, but you know, sometimes you don't even get those days against, well, this season, you don't even get those days for real for real.
6:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So, know a Brown, he had a class for 28 yards and that was his, that was a little Brown thing's after that.
6:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That was his performance for the season.
6:49
[SPEAKER_00]: He went out with a back injury.
6:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they said it was a rib injury, they laid it on.
6:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they said it was a rib injury, okay.
6:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They said that first then it rib, so who knows it could be both with him?
7:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
7:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, bro.
7:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if that, that ought to tell you who watched the denture take serious and that was even for just, yeah.
7:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, put your leg on, burks out there and just move forward.
7:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no a brown could come in in situations.
7:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Put them at the age back, moving around a little bit.
7:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You ain't got targeting them.
7:22
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because he gets hurt when you throw him in the ball.
7:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Just let him block.
7:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to do, let him block.
7:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't throw him in the ball at all.
7:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Brad, I think that's where we are offensively.
7:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what.
7:39
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you feel about Bill?
7:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to go to the defense market, but I just thought about it.
7:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you feel about Bill
7:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Potential in in in this office like you got three games left nine six yards is encouraging But again, that's why a preface like we're talking about the New York Giants They do have one of the league's worst defenses, um, but like that ability still shows itself here in air so How you feeling about bill?
8:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Bill had that, what we thought was a breakout game against the charges, and then after that, you didn't see Bill, you know, kind of show any of those flashes that you had kind of seen from there, training camp is so forth.
8:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So you started wondering yet, people calling him a jag and everything, one of our favorite listeners, Jay Tyler likes to call it Jack Crossie Merritt.
8:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that he knew better.
8:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he looked better in the role that he had been when Chris Rodriguez was to leave back.
8:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Because in my opinion, I thought he kind of looked good whenever the times he did come and he looked like he had that bursty look like he was playing better when he wasn't the feature guy when he can kind of be more of the change of pace guy.
8:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, I started thinking maybe that's kind of Bill's role and it's maybe that'll be what he is and it's lead going for is a change of pace guy and not your kind of lead back.
8:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Now,
8:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to, he had a great game today.
9:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought every time he touched the ball in a burst, I mean, did have a fumble, Josh currently, he had two fumble recoveries today.
9:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he actually saved them there.
9:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's hard to take much from this game because we do know the giants have a bad run defense.
9:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, you can't not build, because he did, he went out there and did what you wanted him to do.
9:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked good.
9:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he had a burst every time.
9:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And he still has that dangerous cut of building.
9:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And part of me wonders how much the actual Clay Cohen has helped them look good because Cliff ran in more traditional sets the data and I've seen them do all season and the office of why looks like that's their strength like this is what we can do we get after it in the ring game and the holes were there like the touchdown and Bill had.
9:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He made that one cut boom, he's gone.
9:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And you got to wonder if you see this type of play call or from Cliff going forward, if you start to see Bill show more consistency because right now you can't take much from him because the consistency as a lead back just hasn't been there.
9:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I don't know how long Chris Rodriguez is gonna be out to allow Bill to kind of show this.
10:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, I think Bill, at least the last two to three weeks I wanna say,
10:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He's made the most of his opportunities, like when he's coming again, he's made the most of his opportunities.
10:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Now at this point, you know, here or not, we got the Cowboys and the Eagles, that's the only two teams you're playing for the rest of the season.
10:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Bill has to show that consistency, especially because the Eagles, that's a really good run defense.
10:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Cowboys, defense, his guy, better says quitting Williams is joined the team.
10:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So you want to see a bill can kind of carry over that momentum, even if he's not the lead back.
10:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But when he gets those opportunities, if he can flash, that's going to be important for Bill.
10:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think who said it and the money ball said it as well that I actually agree with I understand we're coming from Jerry.
10:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think my biggest thing with Bill is just knowing the ball security problem.
10:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And when people hear a problem, they may say, well, he only fumble X amount of times is not a high number, but you know, he does get loose with the ball and today he fumble.
11:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think early on when he was getting the bulk of the carries, like that was a concern because he fumbled like I think in 2 consecutive games, it was a 3 consecutive games.
11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it was at least 2, but I don't know if it was 3.
11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 2.
11:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 2.
11:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
11:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been from maybe, right?
11:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
11:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, those in the chat, man, what my research is it?
11:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Help me out.
11:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it was at least 2, but let me know if it was 3 consecutive games that he fumbled.
11:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but yeah, I'm with money ball.
11:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he does fumbled a lot.
11:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we're
11:31
[SPEAKER_00]: a lead back.
11:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's going to be the case with him, but he is like a he's an explosive splash like slasher and, um, funny enough though, I want to think I I get tired of like, and you notice it quick.
11:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I said this with b-rock, um, close to that say this with, I can't remember who else I say this with, but I definitely said it
11:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You know the caliber of player if they can tend you to not like break that run.
12:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And Bill had these moments were like, you know, you get the, you pop off the 20 odd or the 30 odd or the 40 odd.
12:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He ain't there, but like, it's always like that slip that ankle tackle, that something that hurt some and, and that's the reason why I brought them up on this guy called lot to you.
12:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like the fourth quarter when the back was against the world, I think Giants had a smidge momentum.
12:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, he popped one on the left side for like 11 yards untouched until he got to the third level and he slipped.
12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And he got tacked on my breath.
12:41
[SPEAKER_00]: The only reason I think bail slipped or or even like trip over himself is because he knew he, if you made that one do miss, he bought the score.
12:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, that's kind of my main thing.
12:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think about Bill's ball security and like yo, I need you to lock in when you get to that third level like be extra focused.
12:58
[SPEAKER_00]: as opposed to just like knowing that you didn't made it past that first second ways.
13:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But still.
13:05
[SPEAKER_00]: All that to say like that's like construct the criticism he had to excellent day.
13:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Good on Bill and and good on Washington's offense.
13:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I even think like even with Josh Connelly had the rough start in the first half like the first quarter.
13:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I sent it.
13:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was the first quarter.
13:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He ended up selling into.
13:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got offensive line.
13:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
13:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's going on with every title, but I don't think he came back in.
13:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Even still Brandon Coleman did a solid job.
13:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a shout out to that offensive line as way I think they went.
13:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, more than the issue about this being a subject could be, and, you know, I'm still kind of laughing about what it can be, and it's lead with the you kind of see as this role as a project south force career like do you see kind of that scrapback role of the you see that change of pace or do you think he has some potential as maybe a lead back somewhere down a while.
13:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's where I was at.
13:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, not the lead back part, but like the spiel, spiel running back like that.
14:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, change the pace gap.
14:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
14:06
[SPEAKER_00]: was going to be helpful for him is because of like his vision and his explosive ability.
14:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think the way that you use Bill can very I think he's versatile, like in terms of your scheme, he can do gap hands on my opinion.
14:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like that's just because of his short area quickness like that versus there.
14:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it's, it's anybody any any office according to use it and any system.
14:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I don't know big and if you can really to for like 20 cares, a game, man, like I
14:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Early in the season, the more to share your touches and crease and you thumb up a ball more, the more reliability you become or a liability, excuse me, that's you become.
14:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would rather keep them at that number, too.
14:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
14:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what he looks like, no, money ball to your point.
14:55
[SPEAKER_01]: If we drive love, yeah, I do agree.
14:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's it.
14:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I miss a big it because I don't know.
15:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and,
15:02
[SPEAKER_01]: What is wrong with compare and Terry the T-higgins?
15:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a fair comparison.
15:07
[SPEAKER_01]: T-higgins is a hell of a white deceit business.
15:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I miss it.
15:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's worth it.
15:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, Drake stopped calling Terry is probably up so he, I know he said, I think he's talking to a T-higgins.
15:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think that's disrespectful.
15:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the T-higgins is better white deceit business in the lead.
15:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's saying it's not a normal receiver.
15:22
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
15:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's one of the better white deceit business in the lead.
15:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So compared to all the T-higgins, that's not disrespectful.
15:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, boy, I don't know where that came from, I ain't gonna lie to you.
15:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But honestly, boy, if you were to ask, not, not, um, Commander's fan base, that's a little bias and take Cincinnati out of it, too.
15:43
[SPEAKER_00]: If you just ask NFL fans, is Terry Antee, number one receivers.
15:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure there's a consensus that, you know, both of them will be.
15:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's what you were saying, saying that one wasn't, but that's kind of what I mean.
15:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.
16:00
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
16:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to the defensive side of the ball.
16:09
[SPEAKER_00]: What does it do to ask me, does he look like Bates in the open field?
16:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Please tell me, I'm sure.
16:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He's talking about Ben Senate.
16:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to talk about Ben?
16:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's one catch, but I, I, this short conversation.
16:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
16:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, how about this?
16:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, not necessarily Ben, but the tight-end role itself, uh, I do think was worth talking about because, um, who was it?
16:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Jay Tissie.
16:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He mentioned he don't think that Ben, he thought that Noah Brown was going to do the role that Zachers did.
16:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like, he was very adamant about that in the pre-game show on Thursday.
16:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And while I didn't necessarily agree with that, I understood because no Brown had played that role the H-back role to move guy with Dallas one year and then he did that his first year in Houston.
17:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think Ben had himself, uh, a solid game from, uh, just being active, like I saw him like they ran this play that spring bill for like 11 yards on the left side of the bowl, I mean on the left side of the offense and they had Ben Senate across the formation on the Wamblock.
17:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And like his IQ to get that blocking, hip-checked the defender was just just what Bill needed to spring him for like 10 or 11 yards.
17:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's important because like when you do lose his that urge, you got to find a way to be just as valuable when you're on the field.
17:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that they use these tight ends, it wasn't just
17:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Ben was still in his regular row, but what I noticed is John was the one that was detached for the formation.
18:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He was the one splitting like the trips.
18:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He was the one in the two outwired and things that had made sure as opposed to them using an extra private seeper, or even using Ben in that row, Ben was still like that H back or he was still in line, right?
18:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was anything special.
18:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think the role that Zack Erts had, they gave the first shot to John Beats.
18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was thinking throughout the game, you know, without Erx, because I noticed obviously that the titans weren't too active or involved in the past game to, you know, baseball does one pass and then Senate court is later and I was wondering what out of Erx, this cliff feel like he can now, he's more so forced the run the tradition or run sets because he's not using it.
18:56
[SPEAKER_01]: even Titan as much or he doesn't trust those guys so much in the past game, but we've said it, I mean I want the whole game, I mean I was ever really paying too much attention to what he was doing during game to be honest, I mean I do that sometimes when I read you watch it, but I was wondering I'm like man, what
19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: is he ever going to get involved in this office?
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do they ever see any kind of role for him within his past game?
19:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he goes out and he catches the one long past.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just makes you wonder what his potential is here.
19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because it's obviously even though he did catch that long past, it's kind of obvious that Cliff and him don't see a big role for him.
19:29
[SPEAKER_01]: in the past game.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, we've got to see it by now.
19:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know what happens these next three games that they're going to give them more opportunity, but what did they see?
19:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if it's just a coach or staff here or what, but what is his potentially?
19:42
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want to know.
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Even at one play though, like it was, and this is a discredit to Ben.
19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just acknowledging your point, Jerry, and just acknowledging like his role.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 13 personnel if I'm not mistaken.
19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a run obvious run situation.
19:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So it created a 101 matchup for Ben, and I think Ben did his part will, right?
20:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he got to the top, his route, and he won.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big deal for Ben.
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but like the way that they created the opportunity is because of the formation is because of the situation.
20:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so it's like if you were in a situation where it was a obvious passing down and we needed you to win this 101 rep, could you do it?
20:32
[SPEAKER_00]: That question still remains.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
20:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And the moment that they created for Ben, he did a great job of cream separation, any hold in the catch.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Great idea.
20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to tell you the story of his career.
20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though he had very few opportunities, I think when we have seen those opportunities come his way, he's kind of made those plays.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like you said, it's nothing where it's like he's out there flat out in a passive situation where they're putting in these situations to tell them to be fast, but he won't interrupt.
20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And he usually kind of wins those reps, even in his short opportunities.
21:02
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm still kind of like,
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: if he has more opportunities, do we see more or if he has more opportunities in the past game, will he get exposed more?
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: We still kind of don't know that yet, but maybe these next three games are kind of tell us, but we do kind of start and need in that answer because obviously Earth is probably done for his career, and the question is, what's happening at Titan at the season?
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that looks like a glaring eat at this point, at least when you're talking about a recent Titan.
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if he gets more opportunities whether he gets exposed, maybe he looks a little
21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm still, I'm still in that for eight energy pool of US me buying a lot to you get me find me one of the tight hands in the creativity pool and let's let's figure it out from there.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a lot to you.
21:42
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21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So you need to get that shit checked out, bro.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: AJ need to get it, bro.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to tell me, you're early in brand?
22:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a word.
22:05
[SPEAKER_00]: They call it as something when you're doing both in the same time, bro.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Go See a Doctor.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I say it urgent care immediately.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you look.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: He looked like Anthony Anderson.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You do.
22:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You lose a date.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
22:26
[UNKNOWN]: Not in a lose.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are we at?
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: 23 minutes.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, special change.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You boy.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what's his name?
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that kicker name?
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Wendy Day, um, I don't have nothing special or like spectacular to say about them, but I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to miss numbers.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
22:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that was the win.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I'll about to say, I ain't in a lot.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's easy to, it's easy to tell when somebody missed the jump or when like factors helped him.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I don't even fault them for that.
23:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so a solid day for Moody, uh, and even still he kicked the, he kicked the field gold after that,
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see an adjustment in the way he kicked it.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't break down the sun as I'm out of field, go kicker, but you can see how he adjusted it to where the wind is blowing.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he kicked it, I think far left and it's swung right or far right and it's swung left, I can't remember.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can see he's actively aware of that situation.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But Jake Moody, three, for three, I'm just tracking it because by the way, that's why I brought it up.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just tracking it because I'm in a situation where I didn't
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Or are they going to fucking, look, look again in all season?
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's kind of where that's all I'm saying.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I'm at, bro.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't think he's special.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know yet, but Landon's something.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the big key will moody you got to see what he can do from 50 plus like that's been the reason why most of the guys don't Let's stick here because they can't make their 50 plus in today's NFL when guys are making 60 yards the crew team now So I don't think we've seen him even a 10 to 50 plus yet from that mistake and I know he had a chance to first gain
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But when he was here with Dan Quincy, he didn't want that to be his first kick in Washington, you know, home with a new long snap or kick in a 50, 70, are still going, but no, we haven't seen him kick those 50 plus days look good for 40 and out, which is cool.
24:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's fine.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But until he can prove.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He can make those 50 plus yarders.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I still don't think you have that answer yet.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we get that answer over the next couple of weeks because we are all tired of the kicking carousel here.
24:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like something that's a change here.
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do hope we get to see that tired of the work.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we're the next, the kicking carousel.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I was like, what's the word?
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I being like, you, I can be a row.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care, I don't care.
24:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Carousel, is that it?
24:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Carousel.
25:01
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, bro.
25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, Karoon, that's their hard-a-long run.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my new word, man.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I just made a rule.
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for teaching me something.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at AJ Lamp and I'm going to see you go.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that Karoon's over.
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's in my dictionary now, bro.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's in my accent.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, man, Dan is a stream.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't gonna lie to you.
25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I get what you say about the 50 plus, okay, cool.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The Jalen Lane, we can move on from kicker.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That's enough conversation for kicker.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Lane, got himself another 76 or three yard return for a touchdown.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a reminder for him, I guess.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, matter of fact, he actually had a record.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is,
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: His pot return was a franchise record that he tied with two pot returns in a touchdown like the last person who did that was actually in 1994.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It was being mentioned.
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's out of franchise record.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's three games to break it.
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Three games left to break it.
26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Break it.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the product means they just kept tickets on.
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: They just say a fuck it.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they because he got to go to
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I broke the record this year, we had a damn defense thing to get on the field.
26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see many parts.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Brad.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but shout out to Jalen Lane.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you aren't treating offensively and I think draft status aside, if you can find a role that's actually valuable to your team.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, fair enough.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Granted, if you drive for a part return or a special team or in the first round,
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's a problem, but they didn't get them first round.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So, now I'm third round if you can prove yourself value will get two, two part returns in the touchdown.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, two, two part return in touchdowns and one season as a rookie, like, that just shows like you have something to work with in that situation.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm interested, I'm impressed and I'm happy for Jalen Lane.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was it's good to see that he's finally in the way to contribute like we need that at least if you know you ain't going to be something on the office of him, you know, let's see you go out there and contribute in the way.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that had given some confidence to start showing up on office.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I did notice today they gave him a couple of targets today.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't work out, but seen by trying to get them involved.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that'll come.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Ronnie.
27:25
[SPEAKER_00]: or Sherman I don't know if y'all keep calling me during this sober we won't have a a a rony we won't have a conversation uh... but um... a same walk same walk i damn it a j that's hilarious we could do a we should do a spelling be competition right now i will win i will win a you know i'm a spelling how many spelling b's have you done in your lifetime for you i'd be wondering like the full of great and i was like run around i forgot which words stop me but i was runner up
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did a couple to myself where I was at elementary school too.
27:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't gonna lie to you.
27:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I did pretty good.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was in the I was one of the finalists I don't know if I won.
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I genuinely don't remember, but I think you have a medal if you won, right?
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, something like this.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't win.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't win.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You were like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to do, we're going to do a spout of decomposition, one of these weeks, bro.
28:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe after the Sunday, I mean, the Saturday games.
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That's next, right?
28:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's out of here.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the Saturday games.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we're going to do, we'll probably do it after the Saturday game, do a spout of the decomposition.
28:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And for it, Brown, thank you TC for the correction.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I did say third round.
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, defensively.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody already said it.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Worcester's name, Hamilton, Anthony Hamilton.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a really good day in coverage.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: San were still created to turn over.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for the most part, given the people that you do have, I'm never got himself a sack, right?
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was some spots that were good for the day.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I think it's important to acknowledge,
29:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're playing against the New York Giants.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: These are two mediocre Subpar portings.
29:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't take too much away from it.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think if there's one thing that you can say for Sanverstale's game, a person that's going to say year three, of his rookie deal.
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, whoever comes in as a defense coordinator next is not about, like, do you view them as a starter or not, right?
29:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And he still gives me it's about how can I put him in the best position to create turnovers for his defense.
29:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a way that I can put him on as the single-high post safety on a particular game?
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a way that I can utilize him in a slot on this particular play?
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I use him as a Joker?
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not like the little Joker as defensive coordinator called it, but like can I use him?
30:02
[SPEAKER_00]: on outside the inside, can I use them post or strong like I think there needs to be a way to just find a way to create turnovers, I mean to have him create turnovers for your defense, let him be your sparklude and it's not about whether or not he gets beat or not like he's decent enough in coverage but he's also can be a liability.
30:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
30:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen those title players here, but the thing is when they show their propensity to make plays, you have to find a way to put them in those positions to make plays because Sam was still in four and a substitute this year.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget how many last year, but he's by far the best playmaker in the secondary.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to mean that may not be saying much that bar is kind of low, but at the same time, he still can make plays and he's shown that.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So like you said, the next defense accordion they can come in here,
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of say, all right, this guy, we have to put him in those type of positions.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also think that obviously getting a pass rush, more of a pass rush is going to help a guy like Mikey San Restield because he doesn't have to cover for four to five seconds on a plate.
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he gets beat regardless sometimes with steel.
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He can just go out there and play without thinking too much.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He can use those instincts because that's one of Mikey's best traits.
31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we knew that in Michigan, like Mikey San Restield can back those plays.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And he can be instinctive when the ball is in the air.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So you want to get into those situations where he can go out there and make those type of play.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So it will be interesting to see whoever the team is a coordinator is next year, you know, kind of go out there and kind of put together those game plans to get Mikey in those situations.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, more on that defense,
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was Dan Quinn didn't play the kind of slowly defense this week.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they kind of were more aggressive.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I see more blisters this week.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they said, well, shit, if we get beat, we get beat, but we are going to kind of go out there and dictate because last week against Minnesota, they just kind of watched JJ McCarthy just kind of
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he was waiting for my carkey to make a mistake and started trying to make him make mistakes.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: This week, you know, they kind of made Jackson dark kind of have to go out there and make some plays and Jackson dark couldn't make enough plays today.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, those people mentioned in the chat and told me, you know, Hamilton, I thought he played a hell of a game.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at least for a guy who hadn't started all year, he comes in this week.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And you see him go out there and he was involved in a lot of plays this week, you know, he was making his stops.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And,
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Von Miller, man.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's he got to have the quietest seven sex.
32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen my like Like I'd be I mean, I know you you see them do it in the games when you look at the end of the season with him Von Miller got seven sex You know, I mean, you know, I've been like 30% of the snap.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, even when he's on the downside of this I know yeah, I thought he said like yeah
32:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a seven and even though he's at the down in his career, it just kind of kind of showed you that, you know, those Hall of Fame talents, even when they're at that point in their career, they still find a way to be somewhat affected.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's definitely not that guy anywhere, close to that guy who used to wreck having it, but he can still find a way to be affected for himself.
33:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that was kind of cool to see that overall, man.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did think that Dan Quinn called a defense this week to say, man, we're going to even if we get beat, we get beat,
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: and wait for you to make a mistake.
33:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna go out here and kind of try to take something on defense.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought that was a leasing character in the sea.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how that changes when they play against Philadelphia and the Cowboys, which will be better offices.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I told you, you know, this ain't the, they know Homer, me, bro.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Just be honest with you.
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I told you I said we're going to get one of them against Philly now I think they're going to be playing for something both games So let that be what is worth that's the only that's the only that's the only team I said that we was going to be to I didn't give a fuck about Giants I'm just telling you like that's just and honestly at this point I think you got better shot of beaten Philly with Mario today.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You do it, Jayden I mean possibly I still don't see as beaten Philly I'm trying to get that damn game away the day
34:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad, that's actually one of the more frustrating things.
34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like not even not even the fact that I wanted to Washington to win per se, but it's like from a taking control of a game.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I think for for Washington, uh, I don't know what things are going to like against Philly, um, or Dallas, uh, I, like I said, I do think we get one of them and my personal opinion.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand what you're saying.
34:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand why people think that Washington doesn't, doesn't win.
34:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what it is with it is, um, but I said, that's not the home memory is more so just like I think that this team has something that they're trying to fight for and maybe
35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but, you know, Phyllis just put up with, they just blank the the raiders who don't have all things whatsoever.
35:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Washington is going to be going against Philly in a situation where they actually at least got there starting on the sheet with back in a decent run game.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And Mary, oh, the if he ain't going fucking passable, he sure she's going to run it.
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I think offensive you have a chance.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder, I wonder what's going to go on with Jeremy Tonsu, um, I, I started scarring the way, I don't see anything about Tonsu just yet, um, so I guess we try to come back in and then he went back up right, um, fast console, you know, the first half, then he came back in the half time after half time he came back, but I think he would back up.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, I was like, last I saw he went into the tunnel before half time.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't even notice he went back Yeah, we're trying to begin again for a little bit.
35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the leak.
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Strangely, thank you Yeah, and congratulations Ronnie you all you all beat the the Raiders 31 nothing Looking forward to hear what you have to say about them the the Eagles on Tuesday about how you all beat up on the Vegas Raiders I was wrong
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I did think the rate is going to go up, y'all, you thought the rate?
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like English fans, so I think everybody's going to be them.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't going to lie to you.
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's get into one such a cycle ways.
36:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think, who said it?
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Pass rush.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody missed your pass rush in the chat.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm right there, which I don't think, in the moments where Washington needed it against the Giants, like the Giants did, they have all the data available.
36:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like no pass.
36:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really getting there and some of the biggest positive games.
36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like some random sex here and there.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to say the sex aren't important, but like from a down-to-down standpoint, it wasn't, I didn't see like a job, a Jackson-Dark in pressure consistently.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do it not to say it.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's close out with our one such as takeaways, Jerry.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we doing this to that?
37:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, we haven't done this in like 10 weeks.
37:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do it once in a second ways and close out with MVP's.
37:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's actually crazy.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done it in like too much.
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is a part of too much.
37:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Once in a second ways, what do we got?
37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: What do we got?
37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: What do we got?
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Our money says someone had the win.
37:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Duce.
37:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They thought naming Noah Brown, Captain was a good idea.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He was barely able to walk out for the coin toast.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Isaac, worse to win in the damn, bro.
37:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Worst win in the last decade, be the bad team that beat themselves and lost the war in draft capital.
38:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna lie to you.
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Drake, I understand what you said early on, I understand the consensus about like drafts capital and and like loot like secure in a as high pick as you can, but here's why I'm that bro.
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get back to one of the takeaways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like that mattered more when.
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[SPEAKER_00]: your organization was suitable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think like this is a toxic organization or like something that we're like, you need, you're like on a lifeline or a life alert type of deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that watching is desperate for talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like the big deal in terms of like crowd about a win here and there later in the season,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something where I'm like, it doesn't bother me that much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they do get a win or two, I don't think we're in the depths of despair, like we were with the previous owner in previous hate coach coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, for me, my piece on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was more dire in those days because you needed to quarterback most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of the the further you slip out of that draft ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of hard to obtain that franchise quarterback as those guys usually go, you know, one through three, one through four, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you kind of slide it out of that range, you know, it's not good for that look at least.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll say for this year, the only reason I'm kind of on team tank at this point, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: because I think it opens up the opportunity more so for better trade down, especially if someone is desperate enough to go up from one of those quarterbacks or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think we need to, we need a lot of that, we don't have a lot of draft picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the only reason I'm kind of like, all right, I wanna take it out, you know, wanna see these losses to jump higher up in that draft order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, I don't think as dire as it was in those years when you needed the quarterback, because right now you need a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have the quarterback like we still believe in the quarterback as long as J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they healthy he can prove that we also have an office online as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys typically go high as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So right now what you need in kind of everything is not as important or as big or, you know, hurtful if you win these games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a couple of years ago when you played the Jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you were begging to lose that game against the Jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like that at this point, but I do
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[SPEAKER_01]: offers a better trade down opportunity for us if that were to present itself, especially so we'll get desperate enough for those quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Albanian commanders fan, DQ, unable to develop young players, led poison, giants tanked more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sarah Chismin, finally, a win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam, I am by rule, losing streak over.
40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who was David Bailey?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the fucking the dude from Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know is that beyond us, would you I have no clue who David Bailey is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: David Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, David Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the dude from Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say that name popped out for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David Bailey is a linebacker for Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: James Souls said David Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he responded with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess that's his guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that he wants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I see an empty calorie win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's from Joe, TH.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if we got one more Marshall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, three more weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We right there with you, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, MVP's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get about here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's MVP's offensively and defensively?
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[SPEAKER_01]: offensively I'm going to build a day I thought Bill you know stepped up ahead as best game and since the chargers game at least I mean he ran with authority even ran with a purpose today to be it was one place and he dragged a couple of guys across the first down line he was able to get a touch down almost a hundred yards rushing
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go hands on your Hamilton just because, I mean, he's the underdog and that guy was making so many plays that day and no one even knew who he was before today's game and he actually saved what was it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On that last drive for the Giants, he saved the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you, this game extended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also broke up a potential touchdown in his game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could be potentially talk about a Washington loss when they show right down a pantone on Hamilton doesn't make a couple of those plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that could be my defensive MVP.
42:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, I started laughing when you say an Antonio Hamilton.
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For the last three hours, I been calling this man Anthony Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You serious, bro.
42:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like Anthony Anthony.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Antonio Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see, I put that in my nose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could just want to say Anthony Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My most to this would be hilarious if I did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anthony Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great game.
43:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully you didn't say it on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually thought I did earlier, but I just see I think I guess I just had Hamilton That's hilarious.
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm offensively I'm gonna go with Bill Fumboot and Mario the Fumboot some go with Terry
43:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think Terry had himself a solid day.
43:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the 50s of yard of touchdown, like crazy, basically capped, capped it all for us.
43:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That was really the, that's where his all these yarders came from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, so on my the end of the day, uh, it was a big play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It made the 90% of his yards, but still at the end of the day, you get an end zone, you extended Lee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you had yourself a good day, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Terracorn offensively defensively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you on Hamilton, but in the fight as you did give him MVP.
44:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with San Ristil.
44:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think San Ristil's just played making ability for it to show itself.
44:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, you don't have to have a ton of every week.
44:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So for it to show itself consistently throughout a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do out of season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what you got there and I think that's a big deal for Washington.
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got said moving forward in terms of 2026 moving forward.
44:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The new coordinators are going to have to find a way to plan and position to make plays as opposed to worrying about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: exactly the position that he plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just find ways to put him position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go with Mike Sanford still defensively.
44:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to give an honorable mention to Jalen Lane because the game doesn't break open.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: if it wasn't for Jalen Lane initially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Jalen Lane, you get an honorable mention for your special teens touchdown.
45:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lou, do you?
45:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if you can break the record.
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's anything to focus on for the last three guys, let's see, let's see if we can be on record rush.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See if you get another point we're trying to touch down within the last three guys for Jalen Lane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, drink.
45:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Back to our games.
45:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a lot to you before we started.
45:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not have enough time to put in anything for the Packers game, which is unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to see if I can catch a live line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully different scores of touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the score by looking at the back?
45:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping that Denver at least scores a touchdown so I can bet the Packers because I know that line going drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I'm I'm with the Packers.
45:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then Seattle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Andy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Them eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cole's doing a thing and I fuck through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I ain't I didn't put none, I didn't put none on it.
46:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess this whole time I was talking to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was over here focusing focus on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I only I was only able to put in some of the for Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm okay, but yeah, Indies, Indies tie a three three with the ball and Seattle's all Lord.
46:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh Lord, Ramsey, I'm looking at Phil, I'm looking at Phil, I'm looking at Phil, the river's John, you're going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you on Razone?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: More Razone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't.
46:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a little run, but it was like five years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Razone by the, I guess, pop it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
46:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's still not on yet.
46:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, on this practice in Broncos and they show him, yeah, they just show him pack is the Broncos, right?
46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit, Broncos got touchdown.
46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can put it in.
46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so, yeah, you already missed it.
46:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it.
46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel it really, I feel
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Brad, it's gonna be on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's it, Brad.
47:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, Brad, it's a look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We may have a special, we will have two shows this week, but we may have a special time for one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're expecting a guest on this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see, but the guest will be worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good quality content interview covering several things draped and NFL.
47:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just be on the lookout for our schedule I'll keep you posted if I'll be on Twitter at that month.
47:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where you'll find information I'll be right in the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you back on two day Goodbye to your man, peace
47:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Huh, watchin' throw the ball, we gon' pick it up You gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up You gon' play through for a long, you gon' put it up You're the funny side, you hit it, put your pants in Don't be lookin' for the rest, you don't know flag's in Keep that on me, no, keep the police tight You the type you wanna win by any means, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You should look alive, this is tryna die