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Commanders OTA roundup + Brandon Aiyuk has JD5 and Washington on his mind · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you in the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sad, hot, watching throw the bump, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' play the foot along, you gon' put it up, you're the funny side, you hit it, put your pants in, don't be looking for the ref, don't don't fly xin, keep the hammer on, keep the police tight, you the type you want to win by any means, right, you should look alive, this is trippin' that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to another episode of Chopped Out Pied Cache.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Drake, we had a little off week, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that one.
2:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Did it feel good to like kick your feet up on the Tuesday and I think because last week it was it was probably football going on.
2:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, uh, basketball going on.
2:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who played.
2:40
[SPEAKER_03]: But it had, it was probably some, some kick you feed up and just not even worry about, you know, talking about OTAs, like we buy to do tonight.
2:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I have the vibe we feel.
2:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, bro, I kind of missed it.
2:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I was like, damn, it didn't feel right and I don't wanna show.
2:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, I've been kind of occupied with the draft talk, even, you know, with the playoffs.
3:02
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was like, man, you know, was OTA week first week of the OTAs by the way, yeah.
3:07
[SPEAKER_04]: a lot of talk about this shit this week, but I know y'all was out there knowing y'all thinking Brazil had a fun side.
3:11
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, sorry, I could rest for a little bit.
3:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I can explain what to do, seriously.
3:16
[SPEAKER_03]: It has Brazil going to wait.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, Columbia, see South American.
3:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the first thing for sure.
3:25
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it did feel a little weird.
3:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't gonna lie to you because like typically when I'm when I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I
3:47
[SPEAKER_03]: there's miss some conversation about
3:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Quite a few avenues.
3:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean Terry spoke in front of the media.
3:56
[SPEAKER_03]: He also had an interview with Rich Eisen where he's opening up about his role in the offense and also like the distinction between what was and what his David Blows presence.
4:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he spoke on Jayden, Jayden has had his conversation with the media.
4:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of people were speaking about how sharp Jayden is
4:22
[SPEAKER_03]: and like sunny styles is getting some re-reviews and I think the thing is we're about to dive into it, right?
4:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I love hearing the conversations and like the details in which like some people are actually
4:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, ready at this point of the year, right?
4:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked it and I wasn't gonna have a butt in there, but I think at this point, acknowledging a couple of areas that I think is interesting, before I'd be diving into the Weasley things.
5:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the one thing that I did here when I was gone is just how fluid,
5:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Like David Blau sat at the ball was in OTAs.
5:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know what to make it at because like when you have a good showing in front of the media that's kind of a big deal, right?
5:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But you don't know like the other OTA days and like how many errors issues mistakes they made.
5:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But then again too,
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[SPEAKER_03]: prepared early on like I'm I'm very interested in seeing just how quickly if at all like how quickly the offense every grass with David Blow is trying to install I know I said a lot we can kind of just maneuver around I'm not really about to go line item by line item.
6:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but that was the one thing and we'll get to the defense too, but like hearing like how David blouse offense in terms of what he's trying to get across in the early days, at least in the early practices, um, from a visual standpoint, from the media side who's reporting in there, reporting there a day and a day out, um, the two practices that they've been to haven't really been
6:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to jump to conclusions, but I'm interested in seeing like, is that, like, as the weeks move on, like, is that real or like how far, how much further along do they have to go in terms of, like, grasping exactly what they've about once.
6:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's going to be something we carry over in the training camp as far as like whether we start knowing if it's real when they start doing the contact stuff, but it is encouraging to hear, you know, early on, they are kind of running things smoothly, especially with a new office accorded data, new system being put into place.
7:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it goes back to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: David blouse from his preparation and kind of with Dan Quinn talked about when Adam Peters when they were talking about the higher and of a David blouse when everyone was worried that you know they're going to inexperienced route especially in such a critical year, entering year three for this whole system.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jaden Daniels has started a new system, but you always kind of heard that David Blouse is very prepared.
7:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's very, you know, meticulous and how he wants to approach the offense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I guess the biggest question was going to be how quickly with the players picking up, especially when you talk about the Jaden Daniels who's only, you know, played under Cliff King's Barry's offense so far in his two years in NFL.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the good thing is, David Blouse been here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like David Blouse, not fresh out of the street like he's not fresh from another organization.
7:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, the team, like David Blouse, been in an organization.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's been in a build-in with the J.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This, he kind of already has the report that chemistry with the J. and Daniels, to kind of, you know, make this transition smooth.
8:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's very encouraging, at least for me to hear that J. and Daniels is picking it up so fast, because that's what you want to hear from your quarterback.
8:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you want to hear that your quarterback picks things up fast.
8:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the worst thing we could hear right now, and it's hard to take a two-series one way or the other,
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[SPEAKER_04]: you're looking bad, but you really don't want to hear that your quarterback's not picking things up or, you know, jade and dangles is a little slow because then you're going to start getting that doubt creeping into your head like, oh man, you know, as jade and dangles good and don't want to system, but it's so good that here early on that he is picking this up, that he is looking good, especially when you're talking about their putting them on the center a lot more, which we wanted to see, you know, we wanted to see jade and dangles
8:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's good to know that, you know, so far, things look good.
8:56
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think we still, you know, have to wait until they start to put the pads on and they start to really kind of go at it with each other and train to camp, especially what first preseason game we played at Dolphins and we're going to have a joint practice, so we'll kind of learn a lot early.
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[SPEAKER_04]: about the team, but isn't character so far.
9:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, especially about some of the stuff, you know, I'm here about the wire receiver position.
9:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's kind of been to talk a town as far as like, you know, the wire receivers need help me to add this, but so far you had some things, but again, it really kind of means nothing in June and July, and it's going to be more when it comes to August of September.
9:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you, um, are you buying, um, are you buying the conversations around in the, the while receiver group?
9:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, like I'm, I'm very, I'm glad that Terry McLean and even the size Terry.
9:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Side note, Laramie Thompson, the conversation about receivers, but like Laramie Thompson even showed up for the OTAs, right?
9:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he showed up for the first week of OTAs and I think like that dedication.
10:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm granted.
10:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't I don't think he was present for the this pep this public one.
10:10
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's moving back and forth between his home train and basin in Washington.
10:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, for like the leaders on the offensive unit to be there, it's to be present in a first year, offensive coordinators, install, and practices, and early season, all season practices, I think that's
10:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty, I mean, it's obviously intentional, but it also makes like a statement in a sense of like what you want out of this season.
10:42
[SPEAKER_04]: But the receiver standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you buying it?
10:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where I met you and I'm not like I said I think the main thing with OTAs and I'm trying to just kind of keep that level at it like I'm not trying to like jump to gun with anything but I think the reason why I even asked that question is because of like the conversation that I hear about the receiving group.
11:16
[SPEAKER_03]: step on a day to this point, um, you got to think like internally, they, and even day, the blouse said it, like he's, he's super confident in his past catchers, you know, as he described it, um, I think that they are very impressed or very confident or they're at least betting on
11:45
[SPEAKER_03]: there have to be with betting on the people that they had in that room.
11:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's also part of the reason why I said I wouldn't be surprised if they stand pay.
11:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But from a public standpoint, it's just like a couple of prizes that we saw in the media saying that the receiver group looks good.
12:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to need a couple more than two OTA.
12:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Two OTA sessions to say, yeah, I think we'll be fine this season.
12:14
[SPEAKER_04]: No, absolutely.
12:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you, as a fan, you know, us, we're not in the build and we're not in the meeting rooms every day.
12:21
[SPEAKER_04]: We cannot be okay as fans or just trusted that we're fine at the receivers position, even if we hear going things in June again, there weren't shorts and everything right now.
12:30
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's no contact.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know if they go all like real press coverage is out there or anything.
12:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's cool to hear the good things, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: As a fan, we need, we tend to want to know something a little bit more proven.
12:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the issue with fans, and we're looking at the vice-eva group, outside of Terry, there's no proven go get around there at the vice-eva position.
12:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's some hopeful, especially from, you know, the teams perspective, but from a fans perspective, it's like how can you have us go in trusting that
13:07
[SPEAKER_04]: you know, a seven, eight hundred yard receiving go.
13:09
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to take the load off material.
13:11
[SPEAKER_04]: How can you trust the Traylon Berks is going to finally break out?
13:14
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I do think is what I do feel is that they feel more confident than the fan base that's.
13:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel I do truly think that.
13:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's my main thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the real confidence.
13:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust them yet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They have to show me that they are right on this.
13:31
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a gamble.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If there is no plan to add nothing else in that group, it'll be a gamble, but I think it's a gamble.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They feel comfortable with it.
13:42
[SPEAKER_04]: And I say that because they could have made another move so to speak.
13:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, not just the idea, obviously, you couldn't do anything with that.
13:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But there's a step on digs that's been pretty much begging for a roster spot for a couple of weeks now and you got to think well OTAs here if there was like a real sense of urgency from the watch it's that you go sand stuff on digs right now he's already here in Maryland working out and you get him in here OTAs build a chemistry with the quarterback like.
14:10
[SPEAKER_04]: to not have that urgency there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even think it's all about character concerns, Eva.
14:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I just think they, for whatever reason, they feel really good.
14:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And I do think that on the back burner, they probably feel like, hey, yeah, yeah, we can go ahead and get a IQ later down the line, but I think they feel comfortable enough where they're not relying on it.
14:29
[SPEAKER_04]: If that does come to fruition, like he's not gonna be, you know, come in here, we're not expecting him to be wide receiver too.
14:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they feel so good about a train line,
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[SPEAKER_04]: or even whatever else they have up in that past catcher room that you could be a bonus, whatever he brings, if he brings anything.
14:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's as how I think it is because otherwise like I said, you could just sign a stuff on dates.
14:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do think that they feel a little bit better and then the question is too, are they going to be wanting a lot of spread personnel?
14:57
[SPEAKER_04]: What the why I receive is like, I mean, are we going to see a lot of full why I receive a set sort of field or are they going to go a little bit more heavy with a couple of points?
15:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think
15:06
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not what I'm wondering.
15:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that 12 and 13 personnel, something that they may try to hone in on, not to say that's gonna be like their dominant alignments.
15:21
[SPEAKER_03]: But like you probably get to your traditional 11, like your three receivers or your two receivers and 12, but,
15:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think they got the person now to go for four wide and a tight end.
15:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they ain't got that in terms of just like being able to really threaten, but I am interested in like the IU part.
15:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm personally, I'm not interested, but we're going to have a conversation here on show that damn it.
15:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, and if the chat y'all can help me out.
16:03
[SPEAKER_03]: out to, yeah, I want digs over I, you, I'm not going to read.
16:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think digs.
16:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think digs needs to go through OTAs.
16:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he'll be able to go to any team and like get ready back training, get ready during a training camp process.
16:20
[SPEAKER_03]: He'll be fine, but I am interested in like what's this thing with are you following Jayden Daniels the commanders in his girlfriend or his wife or something like that is why is that is that like a new thing or is that
16:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea if that is something that he's been doing for a long time or like is that brand new following that the June one
16:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, post-June one thing.
16:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we had two treats yesterday, uh, AJ Brown is out of the vision.
17:01
[SPEAKER_03]: He in the AFC.
17:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank God.
17:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank God.
17:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I still, I still am betting on it.
17:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It was demise anyway.
17:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So whether he was there or not, they won't bother to shoot.
17:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but like, I you, it, I mean, he got watched it on his mind.
17:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, clear his day.
17:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and, uh, and,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not too sure yet that the filling is 100% mutual.
17:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Though I do believe, like his intentions are known, I think Washington may be like truly evaluating with this be worth it.
17:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Because, and this is not me, Graspianette Charles, I'm just shooting a real life example.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know for a fact,
17:50
[SPEAKER_03]: that and this is just because it just happened okay and I'm not saying it's going to be the same thing, but AJ Brown and Jayla Hurts were really good friends at one point and as a Brown I don't even know why he's on this little media like the time the timeliness of this podcast interview coming out is crazy you shouldn't even be opening your mouth saying stuff like this but you can't help yourself.
18:19
[SPEAKER_03]: saying it's all not even that close no more you and you in jail hurts and put that on in the public airways is ridiculous.
18:26
[SPEAKER_03]: You should have never said that you had no reason to say that.
18:31
[SPEAKER_03]: But like a knowledge in that way and then just like the public rumors that's coming out in terms of like why y'all don't mess with each other no more.
18:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Like out because you couldn't because you you had a side check that you couldn't like let go.
18:48
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not even your girl.
18:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, point being, and what I'm saying is, like a friendship can dissolve like that.
18:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And while that's off the field, like you just never know, like you can't really bank on like the football relationship being 100% like that's all that it is.
19:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, comparison sake, I'm not saying that the same thing will happen with Jayden and Brandon, what I'm saying is,
19:16
[SPEAKER_03]: the team itself has things to evaluate because they don't know how they don't know they can't predict Brandon and I use like mindset and what he'll do down the line if he's not happy right they know Jayden they judge the Jayden they scouted Jayden and that's the part where it's like I think that while Brandon and I use all of them on Washington I'm just not so sure like
19:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know if they're 100 and that's the part where it's like, I think they may want to evaluate the risk a little bit more and I think that's what they're doing, but also San Fran hasn't even cut them.
19:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And if they trade for them.
20:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what the fuck?
20:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that is the conversation.
20:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, from what I understand that I don't keep up with who follows who would all of that.
20:10
[SPEAKER_04]: But the internet sleeps out there saying he hadn't followed everybody that he was on following and he kept just those accounts up there.
20:17
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, it was something that crossed my mind before when I thought about Brandon and I, you know, I really believe at this point that he sabotaged everything.
20:27
[SPEAKER_04]: just to go play where he wants to go play it.
20:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I obviously things went a little sour before the whole 49 has taken the guaranteed money away from him and everything over to your San Francisco.
20:39
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think once that happened, Brandon and I, you was like, if I'm gonna be happy in this league and I don't wanna do what I wanna do in this league, I'm gonna go play where I wanna play.
20:48
[SPEAKER_04]: And that might sound crazy to a lot of people because my job just didn't even fight for his money.
20:52
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't even file agreements or anything.
20:55
[SPEAKER_04]: He just put his hands up and let the 49ers take the guaranteed money.
20:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think what he thought was gonna happen was,
21:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Once they take my money, they're going to let me go.
21:04
[SPEAKER_04]: But what he didn't realize was that he's playing for a child.
21:06
[SPEAKER_04]: He's playing for a shenanet and shenanets do not let grudges go so easily.
21:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Like shenanets are pretty petty.
21:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think what you see now is a standoff because cow shenanet has no exactly him and John Lynch, but they know exactly what Brandon and I he was going to do the moment they let him go.
21:22
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to go sign with JD names and the commanders who is his best friend.
21:29
[SPEAKER_04]: The untalked about things.
21:30
[SPEAKER_04]: He was talking a lot about Jena Dangos and we talk about Brandon and I, in every relationship together as far as friends and all of that, but Adam Peters has a relationship with Brandon and I, you as well.
21:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And Adam Peters obviously is this, the decision maker.
21:43
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the guy that has to make the decision.
21:45
[SPEAKER_04]: So this wouldn't just be a jaded thing like this would like it if thing something went wrong or whatever I mean obviously you blow a man we went inside jaded's best friend but this would be a big thing on Adam Peters too because Adam Peters knows the guy like it I also think that Adam Peters probably talks to him too like of course that'll never be public or anything but I think Adam Peters checks in from time to time they were there he was there when San Francisco
22:11
[SPEAKER_04]: brand that I use.
22:12
[SPEAKER_04]: So you got to keep that in mind, but I mean, again, everyone is saying he's crazy and maybe he is to let someone just take your millions and you leave your millions out there.
22:24
[SPEAKER_04]: But at the end of the day, press it then it.
22:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I will never stop talking about it.
22:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care where anybody, I don't care where anybody is here.
22:32
[SPEAKER_04]: But Ma, could you say he's a crazy man?
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: If he felt like he's standing on his principles, even though his principles may not allow everybody else and how they see him.
22:41
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you have that the end of the day, this is his end goal, he said, I'm standing on my business to get what I want and be where I want to be.
22:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you really call that mad crazy?
22:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's where a lot of people call it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, zoom in on my camera.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Put the cameras on me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Steven A.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and you for $40 million and all for the sake of doing what playing with your best friend.
23:11
[SPEAKER_03]: My best friend could play for God damn, um, the Dallas Cowboys, or the Philadelphia Eagles, or a team that the, the, the abs that I, that I have, like, uh, my favorite, my favorite running back ever played for the regular Williams.
23:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't give it down with my best friend play, bro.
23:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm not, I'm not, no, bro.
23:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and I don't, I don't feel for him.
23:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, I don't understand why he did it.
23:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And I understand the principle part, right?
23:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what you're saying, I understand that.
23:53
[SPEAKER_03]: But this is a business and professionals and matters.
23:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think who, uh,
23:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to say your name, but in core, in core BSN, I'll, I'm just say BSN Burr.
24:07
[SPEAKER_03]: But one of your first messages that I saw from U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S., he said, I think without the commanders, are you careers over?
24:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so we shouldn't have to worry about any any more off the field issues.
24:18
[SPEAKER_03]: That part of I actually I agree with if I understand what you were saying when I was talking like I get what you're saying, uh, and that's it.
24:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But like watching shouldn't be viewed as his savior.
24:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if wasn't wasn't in the picture and he still did did.
24:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Jerry, let me ask you what team, what team you think is it's going to be eager to eager to sign them.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if it is what you're doing, everybody's going to have the same questions.
24:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the thing, Mall, I think he's at the point where, and again, it's may sound unconventional and crazy to us that average man, especially when we talk about the millions, but I ain't never touched a million before.
24:56
[SPEAKER_04]: So I can't fathom giving up millions.
24:58
[SPEAKER_04]: But I've never been in a position where I've had millions and lost millions.
25:02
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's a whole different story.
25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think he's,
25:05
[SPEAKER_04]: this is just me speculating because that's all we can do.
25:07
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't know where his mind is or anything but I think he's in the mindset of I'm completely good if I walk away from the NFL right now unless I go and play where I want to play.
25:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean that just may be the press of who he's standing on at this point like hey I want to go play with the quarterback I know and the quarterback I trust and the guy knows a man and I trust and I want to go over there play with him.
25:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only that he knows Adam Peters too so that's not the only
25:33
[SPEAKER_04]: And that just maybe when he's at and he's willing to sacrifice his millions for his peace of mind.
25:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's just me trying to make sense of it because it doesn't make sense to the average person.
25:42
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, my, uh, I hear you, we're going to leave.
25:47
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to leave the eye.
25:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You've talked there and get back to the team that is, uh, and it's crazy.
25:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it was actually about the receiver spot like the last thing I will say, we've received a related, um,
26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Like one thing that I do notice in these conversations that I'm here and like these clips from privacy and things that's coming out, I do want to be clear like the energy was up last year too, but like.
26:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if y'all feel it either and it's like this is not like some super optimism or fandom thing like I just do feel like there's not like a shadow over the operations and as per and and what I mean by that is like Terry has like a whole different like light on them.
26:42
[SPEAKER_03]: when he's having these conversations or even during the practice, like he's out there and his presence is filled, right?
26:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He's part of the energy that's making the team go.
26:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And with Laramie Thompson showing up like, he's under contract and like,
27:02
[SPEAKER_03]: He showed up, but the Terry part is like he's healthy.
27:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And you don't have to worry about him.
27:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, missing these practices that he missed last year, because like, that's not the type of person that he is.
27:14
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't want to do that last year.
27:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like that different element or that element that has been reintroduced after taking a year off.
27:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's something that is cool to see.
27:29
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I have for it, it's cool to see.
27:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Does there anything, I don't think there is anything about Bill Bill miss it time like of course they don't have to announce injuries or anything like that, but I wonder like why he's not practicing because like his clips there's clips that is doing training off the field with his with a personal run it back coach so like I'm interested in knowing like it.
27:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't even know.
27:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea what that would do to be.
28:00
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, I don't know any coaches got asked.
28:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know?
28:03
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they said that, of course, this time of year, they don't have to report anything.
28:07
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm assuming it's something very minor.
28:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Because he's obviously there.
28:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He wants to be working.
28:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And I did hear something earlier, too.
28:14
[SPEAKER_04]: But he said he actually tried to go out on the field and look like someone from the medical staff actually pulled him back like, no, just do some software.
28:20
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm assuming it must be something like really small and minor that.
28:24
[SPEAKER_04]: they don't want to push in June, which I completely get, like, you know, met at whatever it is, just heal up.
28:29
[SPEAKER_04]: So he could be ready to go in this time to go.
28:31
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, it's a character that he's still there, even though he can't practice.
28:34
[SPEAKER_04]: This is OTA.
28:34
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, he's there.
28:36
[SPEAKER_04]: He wants to work.
28:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, so I mean,
28:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be fine.
28:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, maybe he'll be at the last OTAs that we have next week, and I also think we have a mandatory mini camp coming up after the last OTA session.
28:48
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe he gets in what it owes.
28:51
[SPEAKER_04]: But no, man, I mean, go back to Learning Tunnsle, man.
28:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I was actually
28:56
[SPEAKER_04]: No, granted, he's a guy that if he would have missed, I wouldn't have blinked and I, like, I would have, and I honestly, I would have expected him to miss because of what I understand.
29:05
[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't really do these things anyway, but the fact that he had least showed up last week.
29:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I was okay.
29:10
[SPEAKER_04]: He got his money.
29:10
[SPEAKER_04]: He got the bag, but he still showed up the LTA.
29:12
[SPEAKER_04]: He's man like to me.
29:13
[SPEAKER_04]: That shows like he wants to be a leader.
29:16
[SPEAKER_04]: He's happy to be here.
29:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, if he doesn't show up to any of them again for the rest of the sessions,
29:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't completely find it because I ended it that you know Laramie tons of brings it like he that do does it like last year Well, we was getting news about ladder more miss in OTAs now.
29:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I spoke on that people told me I was crazy I'm like no man like this dude was trash last year like I mean plus he didn't he's never had a fall off Season with the team before I'm like if you had a trash season when you first got here you will want to at least Come in and get some early work with the team and develop chemistry, but he felt like he was above that and
29:49
[SPEAKER_04]: If you won't be alone, what you need to be at least learn me tons of playing level.
29:54
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you're gonna be alone with a trash man, like I mean, good reddits man, and I'm actually glad that guy's not here anymore, but it just goes back to show like I learned me tons of man, like that's good to see from one of your leaders, who actually doesn't eat the work, he's already shown it, he got his bag and everything, but to see him there, I mean, to me, that's a good start to the off season in itself because that's showing that, you know,
30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: People are born in, even after bad season, like these guys are still born in and in, um, to your point more, I think the energy, again, it doesn't mean anything this time of years, June, but I do think from what I remember or recall correctly that the energy seems a little bit different in a good way to shoot because I do remember some of the top last year, well, all not some of the top.
30:38
[SPEAKER_04]: a lot of the talk last year was terrible.
30:41
[SPEAKER_04]: And even a lot of people were mentioning that the virus even just didn't look good without them, which was to be expected.
30:46
[SPEAKER_04]: But we just kept thinking that he would come in sooner and sooner or so and they just kept getting pushed back further and further and further and I just think that that just kind of grew like a snowball going down heel and it just turned into something that we didn't expect to see coming for the season.
31:10
[SPEAKER_03]: The comment's coming from the offensive line.
31:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, um, Sam caused me, um, who else spoke that I'm thinking of?
31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh,
31:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Nick Allegherty, but I was trying to think of this week.
31:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's I think Nick's maybe smoked last week and an even Terry McClure in just some of the comments about the offense from from Cliff to David Blau.
31:44
[SPEAKER_03]: do you think that what they've been saying is more from a comparison standpoint or do they truly appreciate the offense that they're in now versus like what they had to deal with the last two seasons?
31:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's starting to signal that they may be going to back to a style that they're more comfortable with.
32:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Cliff styleistically was obviously very different, especially Cliff.
32:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Cliff wanted to really drive back and pass.
32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was Cliff's thing.
32:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And we get off as a lineman talk.
32:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Most of it, their favorite thing to do is go play powerful for a run to football and wear the defense out.
32:22
[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I think there may be some truth that at least if that's what we're kind of expecting that they have allows office to look like and you start to see a little bit more running.
32:30
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I was mentioning earlier about more going more so heavy personnel and sprayed and why I received this out.
32:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that benefits the office of line, especially guy like Sam Cosmony, Sam Cosmony likes the physical stuff.
32:42
[SPEAKER_04]: So I do think there is some truth there from that group that they probably are feeling.
32:48
[SPEAKER_04]: If that's what we're going there probably are a little bit happier.
32:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they aren't the only ones.
32:53
[SPEAKER_04]: that I heard, I mean, I even heard Terry kind of, even though Terry always says the right things, but I heard Terry kind of light up when he was talking about David Blau, me and a couple of other guys, they were seeming pretty happy with the offense, but again, town would tell, but I do think it's the signal that's stylistically.
33:09
[SPEAKER_04]: This thing is going to look a lot different, and I think there's some of those guys feel like, you know,
33:14
[SPEAKER_04]: this style probably suits them a little bit more because even when you listen to a David Blow talk, I mean, he talks about collaboration, like a collaborative collaborative collaborative, he says it a lot and I think that he leans on a lot of people, you know, his players, his other coaches.
33:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not so sure Cliff was the type that wanted to kind of relinquish control.
33:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Like Cliff seemed like he, the office was his baby.
33:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I mean, I granted now I know he took, you know, some ideas from a couple of guys and letting that.
33:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I think David Blau is probably more receptive than not being so much of a control freak with the offense.
33:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, McCleuron said it in his pressure man.
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: He said quote unquote, I excess and both offices.
33:57
[SPEAKER_03]: We were just in office.
33:58
[SPEAKER_03]: We were just in not too many bad things to say about it, but being multiple and moving around as a receiver is big when you're the number one guy and the team that's to worry about whether you're playing the one two or three on the left side, one two or three on the right side or what I'm doing in the stack or the motion.
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: it forces them to communicate more and study my route stems.
34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You already talked about the offensive line and like what they want to do.
34:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I don't think it's a shot from the skill position standpoint, but I do think the offensive line has much more takes it much more personal when when they do speak about the differences.
34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even Josh Connelly spoke about
34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: being able to huddle up now.
34:50
[SPEAKER_03]: He had that conversation this week just because he hasn't been able to have a huddle, been in a huddle office, I don't remember exactly when he said, but definitely before college, because obviously, he was at Oregon.
35:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But like his, like the offensive line, I, I certainly think that they had the personal issues like they filled a lot of gratitude and relief when they changed the scheme and the system by moving forward with with David Blow instead of Cliff.
35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but also like the elements of play action and being able to communicate a little bit at a longer period of time.
35:33
[SPEAKER_03]: As opposed to just
35:37
[SPEAKER_03]: not having that ability to make checks or the proper checks with the center that you need to or anything like that.
35:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a big deal for the offensive line.
35:47
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think it was a mixed bad thing to skill positions.
35:50
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably don't care that much.
35:52
[SPEAKER_03]: It may help them.
35:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, obviously it may help them if they can move around or you can have that play action from under center for a tight end who can kind of slip
36:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But, um, Terry, well, I didn't talk against the game now, right?
36:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a game.
36:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So for them, I think they didn't take it as personal as an offensive line that who definitely can thrive in a system where they can have much more time that that's set in and make changes as need be upfront.
36:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, since Little League, thank you.
36:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Jason, you see that shot of Jason, man.
36:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it happened today like a couple hours ago.
36:36
[SPEAKER_04]: So.
36:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here.
36:44
[SPEAKER_03]: That was that defensively, let's kind of swing to that side in a second, but first the foremost, we got to talk to the people about underdog fantasy.
36:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I know what time it is, man.
36:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Underdog fantasy, there's a thief in these finals.
37:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody who's been quietly logging up all series long, you've got a hunch on who it is, underdogs got a million dollars
37:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Because now you can make picks and win money right now, I said it twice.
37:18
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how serious I am.
37:20
[SPEAKER_03]: The pod is waiting.
37:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Pick your player every game and include this steal step.
37:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Series ends, steals leaders gets crowned and pot gets split among everybody who call it, it is simple as that.
37:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's go ahead and take a look at some of these plays and figure out who can get a steal or two.
37:42
[SPEAKER_03]: and the NBA finals.
37:45
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what we're going to do three plays, Jerry, and I'm going to get you on one of them, and we're going to figure out what we're going to use for the steels.
37:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's get you on one, let's do for the first game, Wednesday, night 830 pm, next versus Spurs.
38:03
[SPEAKER_03]: First and foremost, what you got in it, who are you liking this matchup?
38:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You like this part of the mix.
38:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually like the spurs, man, but I mean, first I thought whoever went for the West was gonna blow out the East, but then the next just looks so damn good.
38:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's gonna be a lot more competitive than most people probably think.
38:20
[SPEAKER_04]: But ultimately, I'm gonna spurs because I can't work for a next team.
38:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, I don't like New York City.
38:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what, you know what's so crazy?
38:29
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what's so crazy, where I only got no problem with the next.
38:32
[SPEAKER_03]: But I instantly,
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: didn't like the fact that I didn't have I didn't like them like I would root for the next if it wasn't for their fans and I don't even like hate the newer next fans like that but then when you just see them and observe them then you just understand why they're just in the same boat as any other New York sports team or any Philly team like it's just it's just does not get any any worse than than the next fan like that's not fortunate I'm sorry so if we
39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Wemby on a where we at man 27 and a half points.
39:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we going to go higher or we're going to go lower for Wemby.
39:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, first game is where they're playing the San Antonio San Antonio.
39:16
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'm going to go higher if he was playing in the garden.
39:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, you know what, I'm actually going lower if he's playing in the garden.
39:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I probably would say higher because he must that garden show.
39:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm saying low.
39:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
39:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're going to go lower for 27 and a half on Wemby.
39:31
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
39:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So we have.
39:33
[SPEAKER_03]: hats, call Anthony Towns.
39:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Where was he?
39:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
39:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
39:39
[SPEAKER_03]: There it is.
39:40
[SPEAKER_03]: It's points to rebound as an assist.
39:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that 32 and a half.
39:45
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, I am going to go higher on cats points to rebound as an assist.
39:51
[SPEAKER_03]: 32 and a half.
39:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we're going to go to where it bestials.
39:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
39:57
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to find
40:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my Lord, all of these at one and a half stuff I got stuff on the castle is there, but he's at point he's at he's at point five, so he only has to get one.
40:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I see that one, I see Josh Hart at one and a half.
40:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Anna noby.
40:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I like I like Anna noby.
40:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I must face you got to Anna noby, man.
40:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking Josh Hart from NYC side if I was going to take the over on steals.
40:34
[SPEAKER_04]: It would have been Josh Hart.
40:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But let me have, and I know he's not a bad choice, and he plays defense too.
40:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like Anna Nobi, he got like these sparse, but I'm still fine with Hart.
40:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was one of the ones out.
40:47
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll go with Hart.
40:49
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we'll do Hart steals higher than one and a half.
40:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, so let's run that back.
40:56
[SPEAKER_03]: We got Josh Hart steals higher than one and a half.
40:59
[SPEAKER_03]: We got cat higher on his PRA, which is it.
41:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me scroll.
41:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a 30 back.
41:08
[SPEAKER_03]: His PRA is at 32 and a half.
41:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we had when be 27 and a half points were going on lower on his points.
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42:06
[SPEAKER_03]: high current comment.
42:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Defensively, sunny styles is apparently looking the part, or like in a literal sense, the dude is out there flying to the football, like the dude is like from a frame standpoint, height weight speed, everything matches, his teammates are impressed.
42:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think at the very least, when you look at somebody like that as a rookie and people are confident in terms of like how they're speaking about you, who's the guy that I had quoted, I want to say it was, I lost it, I wonder if it was on a hoax haven, who was speaking on them, somebody was speaking on him today.
42:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's a style on sunny styles.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I can't find, I can't find the player that was speaking about them, but he was just talking about, oh, um, oh, wait.
43:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a old way.
43:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what's speaking about him was was talking about how he looks like he's he's he's in the green dot role.
43:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think for a rookie.
43:23
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't know, like, when you'll get that green dot, I think even Lord and I, this was talking about it.
43:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Coach, Lord, and I, this when we had him on, not the assumption that you'll have a day one, but eventually he'll end up having the green dot.
43:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's kind of that conversation, but like, somebody speaking at it to exist, and it's after their first couple of prizes is with Sunday's Dallas.
43:41
[SPEAKER_03]: It's encouraging.
43:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, because for that green dot, you got to be vocal, you got to know where to put people.
43:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And you got to be able to communicate on all three levels.
43:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess for his teammates, I'm glad that they're comfortable with Sunday.
44:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they bullshit this.
44:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I always have to say that though like I don't know like we don't know the truth because it's so early But if they sound comfortable like it doesn't sound like there's no hesitancy in their voices like you can't pick there's no radar that you can like detect right now Like there's there may be sometimes where you can have question marks like when I forgot who was I was talking about Sam how and you just knew he was his bush in
44:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I swear, I actually think it was Terry Burr.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I swear, I think it was Terry Burr.
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this quote, yeah, this quote of both Sam Howe and I was like, right, Ian got, like, Sam Howe ain't doing shit in this lead Burr.
44:44
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's my point, that's all I'm saying.
44:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you can have a radar of like bullshit radar, but it sounds like these people are truly confident in some styles.
44:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, I was gonna say that reminds me of you know, going back in history, I always remember a clip when the race against drafted Desmond Howard with the number four pick in 1992, 93, whatever year that was.
45:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And his rookie training camp, they asked one of the office alignment Jeff Bostak was one of the starting office.
45:15
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the starting center for the race against.
45:17
[SPEAKER_04]: They said, how does Desmond Howard look?
45:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Jeff Bostak said,
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[SPEAKER_04]: he can't play and they thought he was this like was joking he was this series said he can't play so he can't get off the line he said that straight up in a media interview we don't get that sort of candy stuff anymore is good you know you don't want to you know ruin anybody's confidence anything but I mean if it isn't carriage him to see his peers or at least a baby Bobby Wagner is what oh my god and that's that's that's that's actually
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[SPEAKER_04]: He went out of his way to say something like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like that, that's nothing.
45:49
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to throw that out there to say a kid is looking good in his first year or whatever, and like though his first can't.
45:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Like for him to actually say that, I think he means that, I don't think that's bullshit, because you don't have to go out of your way to call anybody by the way, because Bobby Wag is a future goal jacket guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, oh, we must see something in him that's given him that, filling.
46:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I know I saw something earlier today where they showed them being one of the first people out in the practice field.
46:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And immediately brought me back to our conversation with James Lord and I just a couple of weeks ago with Lord and I just was talking about the blog zero, like the one of block-up, the Ohio State block-up, and how he was able to achieve that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I mean, he was able to achieve that by not just one or two people, everybody had the collaborative
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[SPEAKER_04]: collaboratively, vote on him getting his block.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Ben, which is a very prestigious prestigious honor over there in Ohio State.
46:41
[SPEAKER_04]: So he may be shooting up for there being a captain a lot sooner than we can see.
46:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, hopefully the play matches everything else that comes with it and I can't imagine at this point that it won't.
46:52
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, if it does, I mean, you talk about a guy that's literally going to be the green
46:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And he seems like he has that maturity to take on all of that, which is a great thing.
47:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we hear people talk about this.
47:05
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, oh, so.
47:06
[SPEAKER_04]: And I've seen it so far.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, the guy looked like he's older than, but he's only 21, right?
47:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he feels like he's about 28 to 20 now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, he's been an elite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: already years, but I mean, you love to see that in a young person, like you love hearing the work ethic and you know everything that comes with that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think he has what it takes to kind of get, you know, to that potential level that you want to see in that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he probably does with a green dot day one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, because like I said, he seems like he's mature.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here, Odafe, Obey say something like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Again, like as a players don't throw out comparisons like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like like a Bobby Wagner, you know, just throw it out there lightly and
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[SPEAKER_04]: field yet.
47:45
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think they, I, I think they're something to that moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I was hearing a conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: from boots on the ground, people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This was before today's practice, June 2nd.
48:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna give credit to Logan Paulson and Grant Paulson, their podcast to command.
48:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And this actually would be a great conversation if AJ was here because it was concerning, like Frankie Louvre.
48:25
[SPEAKER_03]: When you think about certain rules, certain roles in the defense, first you point to who can be the van ganko.
48:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotta get it right.
48:37
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I was bad and I ain't gonna lie to you cause I had van winkle and van ganko in my head.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And y'all got, y'all got on me when I said van winkle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I got in that time, you thought about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, yeah, van ganko.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So who's in the van ganko role?
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[SPEAKER_03]: and his thought was clever on chase on being in that van ginkle role and he had his reasons why so like not we don't have to worry about the reasons per se but I think ultimately the conversation landed on where does that lead Frankie Louisville and I bring this up because one
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[SPEAKER_03]: like we've had this conversation or we at least brought up the topic way in advance of like him bringing it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's even, I think it's even more credible because he's actually visibly at practice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I got a at least acknowledged that this thought is something that's worth like diving into even further because if you have space for like Frankie Luba who is a person who
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's 100% downfield, like attack attack attack, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, and I think for, for somebody like that, there's always gonna be space for you on the roster for you to do things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna be in a rotation, but like how much space does a team have for that if it's like a duplicative road?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what is that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Leave a Frankie Lovou come,
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[SPEAKER_03]: that the final week of free season, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Leading up into crapping your final 53.
50:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's a trade.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's like, you may not like your role moving forward, but we're gonna keep you here on your last year type of thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, one or the other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think it's interesting because if there is a role for, if there's a van, Ganko role out there and the two players that are being entertained
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you have a Leo Chanel out there who can play golf ball or he can play on the edge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's something we're thinking about, especially if it's something we're like those conversations are starting to like pick up from the people who are actually at practice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I could be mis-remembering this or, I don't, I'm not sure, I feel like this was last week or even one of those face two sessions or something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought they said early on that Frankie Louisville was wearing the green dot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I feel like I heard that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like somebody said that, it might have been last week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't, I mean, that's who caught up on everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What I do remember, and you may have, it may have something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the green dot was rotating.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay, so here, I'm going to the, they may be trying to find Frankie Louvre's role at this point, but I do think something that Frankie Louvre does have a least going for him as he can, you can kind of line them up a lot of different places.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the problem is Frankie Louvre has never been graded any one thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I do think that his best, you know, feed is kind of cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he had a great time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So okay, yeah, last beat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he had to green that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But if they're rotating, I don't, I don't imagine him probably carrying the load as the green that going into the season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they want Frankie to have, I mean, I'm sunny styles to have that spot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think they're trying to find a role for him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, my joy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I guess we're going to a three, four defense now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So this is different than what we've kind of seen, you know, last couple of years in the the coin and Joe Whitt system.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He may be a jackknife on the defense at this point, maybe they'll line them up in a lot of different places just to try to find something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I did think it was interesting in the chase on kind of playing that Van Ginko role because we did kind of think that Louisville will be playing that role.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, it's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even to the point of
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[SPEAKER_04]: is little potential tree bait if they can't find like a definitive role for him in his defense like what can you get for a freaky little and as he end up being on the roster when the season comes but I mean that's still very early preliminary because I mean I think we have good problems now I think we have a lot more bodies or at least capable bodies up in the defense order front seven
53:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying so I do think that you have some good problems in the front seven now to the point where you kind of look at for the role for a friend you move with just all pro two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Logan Decker said Frankie is going to get a Russian impression.
53:34
[SPEAKER_03]: That's about it.
53:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what really hurt him last year is like his flaws exposing themselves.
53:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, just out of position, not taking on contact.
53:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it was embarrassing at times that the moments were like he just didn't want to meet a pulling guard or offensive linemen in the alley or in the gap.
53:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I mean, I didn't create a significant holes, uh, and I think for as the positives that we see Frankie Louisville and the plays that he made in the back for 2024, um, if you don't get him some help up front that that boy, like, he is a crash dummy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can't take that away from him, but like he's going to give up.
54:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, or an office is going to get an additional 10, 15 yards if they get the right line and down here against him.
54:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And then that's something that a new defensive coordinator can't bet on them.
54:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's me a fan of, I'm a real fan of Louisville.
54:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I know what he can do after that first year, but if he don't get that momentum in terms of like being able to stack games and games on top of each other, like that confidence, that it just didn't look too good to me, I have a lot to you, but that's, but that's to your point though, like the depth here is like, it's so, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
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[SPEAKER_03]: They did a great job with the depth where it's, if Louville didn't lose its spot, trade candidate can be one thing.
55:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You may be a surprise cut.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That the same time, like you don't have to do anything with them.
55:14
[SPEAKER_03]: He may just lose some time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe rather get it to a backup role.
55:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's just all on them to kind of figure that part out.
55:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, another person that we can probably close out on is our team is Morgan.
55:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, that's safety spot, man.
55:33
[SPEAKER_03]: She me, that's safety group.
55:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they've been using a lot of three safety deployments.
55:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, with that 30 safety, like playing that slot role.
55:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think it's been Jartavis and, um,
55:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to say Tyler on, it's been at 30 safety.
55:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Josh Davis in the slide, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Will here.
56:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember, huh?
56:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it will here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nick Cross for sure, but I don't know who the other person was that was like rotating in the slide.
56:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember.
56:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe the chat, y'all can help me.
56:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, I don't remember who the other people was playing like in that slot role, but Um, Jartavis, man, I think this is a I mean, obviously we noticed it's a big year for him, but I think like What these coaches I think what these coaches see in Jartavis is the reason why like He gets these opportunities.
56:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, there's no denying like he's an athlete, but he's fearless
56:49
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, how do you allow him to play fast without, like, overthinking or, or f***ing up an assignment?
56:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, I don't know how much faith A to has with him, like, covering like the actual football.
57:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that he's okay.
57:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that he's bad, like, on the ball, like, defending on ball.
57:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I think the problem is, like, everything before that, everything before the ball is thrown in the air.
57:18
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know, we'll see, but I do think it's interesting if you can experiment and have them in the slot role.
57:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You actually, I mean, if it can amount to something, I think that's part of the project part with Dorante Jones, like figuring out how to get these chess pieces together, and how do you revive some of the talent that is obviously on the roster that contributes to such a poor defense.
57:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, how do you find them in the roles that can help
57:45
[SPEAKER_03]: elevate their career, but also like maximize the ability or the potential of the defense.
57:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, the interesting thing with Grante Joseph's when he first came alone.
58:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and when Darante Jones first did his introductory press conference, I thought it was kind of interesting that John Savius was the first person, one of the first people he mentioned, and he mentioned scouting him at his time at Illinois, and I think what we know of him at Illinois was that he kind of played that slot a lot of Illinois, and that's why he was most effective.
58:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe that's what the Rante Jones was to get him back going because I mean what we saw Clung or tortilla is good draft in the second round day here.
58:29
[SPEAKER_04]: We felt like we were getting something That was the manual for us right by the way, but we felt like we got to steal the second round Because it's take look pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He played for levy Smith of the Illinois Levy Smith obviously got many years of coaching in NFL and
58:46
[SPEAKER_04]: He looked really fluid.
58:48
[SPEAKER_04]: He looked like he was going to be a playmaker and he wasn't even bad.
58:53
[SPEAKER_04]: The first year in Vancouver was here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, made a couple of plays.
58:56
[SPEAKER_04]: But last year was like everything went completely off the rails and he was thinking too much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing I noticed with him.
59:01
[SPEAKER_04]: He got caught thinking too much, you know, during a play, pre-snap, whatever.
59:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he just wasn't ready for his assignment a lot of the times on the field.
59:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And then there was the miscommunication of you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: a lot of those he was involved in that miscommunication stuff.
59:15
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is going to be interesting for the Rotate Jones and one of the things there.
59:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Dan Quinn talks about Dramatane when he talks about him a lot.
59:23
[SPEAKER_04]: He talks about teaching.
59:24
[SPEAKER_04]: He mentions that he's a very good teacher and he gets things across very well.
59:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And I wonder, if he can get something across the corner or drotabius, a put him in a spot where he needs, he can excel.
59:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, maybe that is going back to that slot position.
59:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I think we know for a fact that Nick Cross is going to be one of the start of the safeties.
59:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's why I meant your real hair is early because I wonder if he's going to be kind of in a wonderful one of those fast and then his job to be just like it's starting to take is going to, you know, what was five as he's he on the field and then and maybe it is that slap position, but then is also a meek robbers and you thought you were signing for that slap position.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be interesting to see how that shakes up because I do think there's another role up for grabs in that second Daryt as far as like a sign, no Nick cross now.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Who is that other guy or maybe that other two guys?
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we kind of paid those rows.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mentioned Bill Mary being out on offense.
1:00:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Tray Amos is out on defense and yeah, like I had this brief thought, bro
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Try almost as ultimately going to be a starter.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_03]: But like I had this, this brief thought, isolated.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like what if Washington had to starting boundary corners that were both five, nine?
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_03]: and they was locking shit up bro like what would you what would you call that duo of five nine duo to strap and shit on the outside and and like they really made a name for themselves bro I gotta look and see if that's ever been done before
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we had, there was five, there was five and then he started for years, but maybe somebody, but yeah, we always had big corners across.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to say, but it wasn't two of them.
1:01:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we always had big corners.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't two of them.
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that would be, Brad.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to, I would love for us to have a, I like a,
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, again, we know the tray most of the it's ultimately going to come back soon, but I will love for us to like thank us.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do some homework on traveling that brand figure out what the hell will we name a duo a five nine duo that straps you like.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_03]: A meek, a meek, probably you got that dog in the bruh and maybe one day Mikey San Ristill can can find that same dog like of course he produces turnovers, but you got to you got to get that dog bruh.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a meek got a little bit different than San Ristill does, but hopefully
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Tram was those kind of action on on on a real on a real no so we can figure out like what DeRontake can do with these pieces in the secondary and you want to give him some time to get acclimated man Say it's Murphy Jill that is I was think of smurf to the white receivers get called smurf So when you got a group of small white receivers, but I don't know what you call two starting small two cornerbacks I don't know what you call it
1:02:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I was like, I'm not going to put no, I could go, I go a little crazy.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't do that right now.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to put some thought on this one.
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, the fly trip.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're good for now, but I think what we'll do next week, I'm actually going to be on work travel, but,
1:02:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that ain't nothing, I'll be able to, I probably can finance a podcast.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_03]: If not, I come back on Wednesday, all year.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll just push it a day back.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the last OTA session last week, next week, before I can.
1:03:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what day, it's gonna be Tuesday again?
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's the night to put me in.
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we'll be back next to the next Wednesday.
1:03:15
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll go live next Wednesday.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll try to we can try to get like a boost on the ground person.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Who was actually at the practice and we'll go from there and have some conversations with a reporter or something like that.
1:03:29
[SPEAKER_03]: We're working on some coaches, college coaches.
1:03:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I hope so so we can talk about somebody some of these draft things that we got You know, we talked about a sunny and a little bit, but we still got a few more draft things that we would love to discuss with some of the people and since I was on vacation I didn't have a chance to put out no K-tron Allen film session so we're gonna put that out before the week is out All 32 is back tomorrow
1:03:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then yeah, the fellow to see our next week, man, Drake, take it easy, Brett.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, hopefully San Antonio does come through for you, for me too.
1:04:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, uh, I don't need to see.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be happy for New York to team if they do win, but I don't want the fans to be happy.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_04]: So, we either they hate my point guard, so I can't, I can't do anything.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright man, that's it for us y'all take it easy.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll buy your man.