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Commanders defense is in shambles · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sir, we're going back to another episode of the Chopped Eye Pie case I am
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, host of the top of my podcast, I'm only more AJ's in here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Drake is on the way, I appreciate about it's listening live.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Woo thing, that's your first time that's checking in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That you first to the chat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's up, player?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a rough game that it's like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So down said, go, what's your throw the ball?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's definitely a frustrating moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Ben, let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You say you need this group therapy session, this pie case is brought to you by the dog.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We all we all in this together, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a dollar like come on bro like now granted he did he showed up as soon as as soon as the uh as soon as the intro ended he was right there so it worked out come on man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let me add a drink to the shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, boom, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so now all the fellas are in here tonight.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Drake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, hey, all was good to come up with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Where you're going?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna be shit at, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I ain't drinking it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I drink so much on Sunday with AJ and then my son.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna take a week off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I added up a lick of that day and last me for two weeks, so I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't even get to take a shot but I think I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Remember that Hindi joint with a dude drunk a little baby bottle of Hindi and start choking in the car?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cut!
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You said you hadn't taken a shot so I think?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I wasn't like Heldlick, because I was like other people was buying these shots.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lady at the bar was buying these drinks and randomly having the waitress and them like, yeah, but, hey, we back at it, November 1st.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We back at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to fold details right now to announce publicly, but November 1st, y'all be on the lookout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We put some of the content out on the travel dive page, Instagram, and Twitter, X-Tiver, you want to call it, but yeah, I'm definitely not on the mall vibes today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling, like, I feel like I'm losing my voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, make no mistake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm drinking, I'm drinking, because I'm stressed out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I ain't, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you'd buy to say, oh, I just showed that for the hell of it, and I'm drinking water.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hell not, no, I'm drinking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got two shows tonight and I got the I got to deal with this shit twice No, but but I think to this point Hey, that's funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would buy to say something about your locks two age I don't know you know you know when the fresh lock came through when you patting your head, bro You know, I only do that one that when the fresh lock's coming through when the Jones got the new girl I just scratched that bitch breath.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a concussion like I
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, bro, my head has been on fire for the last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not even tender headed, but my scout been going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Says I got the barrels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I'm not dirty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have no dry scalp or whatever way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not trying to, like you said, some women have been on the face time with me like, why don't you just scratch it, why don't you use a rat tail comb.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, this one is brand new.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not about the mess of my hair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so yeah, I just been, I just been having a patial weed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it though, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's, it's, I do the same thing like when we knew with new locks or if I got like, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: like braids or a plant and it's under the zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just just had a jumper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you just got a path to join.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think my hand too heavy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're like, I'm getting hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm like I'm ready to like I'm running through the eight gap or something like I cannot relate to this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm just that line of the head.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All I got is a lot of, you know, that's all I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Hollywood is all me tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa, bro, like, I look like AJ Brown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lisa, I look like a champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa, look like a champion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good comeback, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's get to the aftermath, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why I watched no film.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually this morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: when when the shit was available, but I lied to you, not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I looked at it, I was on my platform.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had the defensive tape loaded up and on everything I love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I stared at that jump for like an hour.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was on Twitter the whole time when I was looking at the film, I was like, where do I wanna start this year, burn?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just kept talking on Twitter, I was like, I don't think I wanna start this right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious to hear like other people's things, like we're all fans of the team, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you said you couldn't even watch the film break down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched the film But I want to watch tomorrow I Since the game ended I have it feels like I don't even have ESPN in my cable package room Because I have not seen nothing on ESPN today like for me whenever like Washington loses
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't watch ESPN because it's like, and especially if it's a prime time game, I can't do it because they got a highlight it in every single conversation.
7:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's your thing after watching the loss?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's I guess maybe almost like a sense of superstition that you can't do after it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I'm kind of like you AJ, I shut down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't read articles like normally when I read articles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm consuming every content.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm rewatching the game, you know, at least two or three times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't rewatch the game, you know, I might look at a couple of films that people post on social media, but I have to shut everything down.
7:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It's I don't want you to shit.
7:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially after I lost like last night, when you gave the game away, like this wasn't a game we came in, you know, we just were looking over and matching everything.
7:54
[SPEAKER_04]: This was a game when you looked like you were supposed to win this game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You felt like you were supposed to win this game.
8:00
[SPEAKER_04]: And kind of in the midst of when you look at the whole combination of games coming up, this tough drop that we have coming up, you thought that this was one of those games you have to have after you to lose that game and what you lose.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I haven't watched anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll listen to some area pockets, only because I know these people feel like, you know, but as far as like listening to the national stuff and all of that, I cut that out.
8:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I have not watched TV at all today.
8:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... some people tag me and stuff last night like you were right about why i'm martin and i'm like no shit i'm always right but not but not i mean at the end of the day i i will say like bans i know you came all here for like group therapy session like things things could be worse bad the same talking they're still obituary for
8:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you to get over the feeling because there's there's games coming up like I was in probably a space earlier and like a guy was like really going off about a smoke.
9:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He was going off or whatever and I was like man, but you see the next couple games they got if you mad about what took place last night you might need to buckle up because the defense is not going to change
9:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The team is what it is right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe some guys can come back from an office standpoint and maybe you could have a better, you know, outing from like scoring wise, but that defense is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And unless they start to encourage some of these younger guys to get on the field, I don't expect nothing to change because
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[SPEAKER_02]: The key thing with Adam Peters and the main reason why I like a lot of people want to him to be GM is the success that he had with lower-round guys being able to crack through home rosters and being productive, whether it be a Fred Warner, he funger, you know, like those type of names, you don't have anybody that provides any semblance to, to
10:11
[SPEAKER_02]: to some of those guys that you hit on the drain green lawns, you know, maybe picking up a chavares ward and free agency.
10:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have any of those guys so far, so it's like you're hoping that maybe the came a journal might get a chance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the, what is it, Kai, Kai you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kai you like it was on draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: he gets the opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Jordan McGee gets the step up a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe to take more ends of the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're just hoping that some of these later round drafts can start to hate because that's truly what makes the baroster.
10:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And so far, you don't really have anybody to look forward to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one of my main, you know, things that I probably would focus on on today's episode on on my behalf is just like AP got to do a better job of
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[SPEAKER_02]: The coach has also got a work in alignment with him and letting these guys get some rep because after watching some film, Quant Martin should not be on the football field no more, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if y'all may be seeing my tweet or whatever, but that last first day that they gave up to Dianstree Swift.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think, oh, it's mainly, so I, I'll start there.
11:36
[SPEAKER_03]: for, I'll talk about Kwan, I'll talk about Jayden earlier today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, my PFF had Kwan at like a set, I don't remember, it was set of 70 something, but he was the highest graded commander on the team last night.
11:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think,
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[SPEAKER_03]: from my recollection, because again, I thought I didn't want to take the big, but from my recollection, like the only time where I saw in real-time, where Quan had his mistakes was the mistycle, and then that last played it, you're discussing, and was important with
12:29
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter like all the good that you do early on in the game, or throughout a game, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If, because people make mistakes, that one mistake, or those couple of mistakes, happen in very critical moments of the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's when you need to be most logged in,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and your team needs you to bet meet needs you most and in this particular game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jay didn't say as he lost focus like our our appreciate that response like does that mean it's okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but like damn bro like what the what the what the fuck was was going on in your head that says you lost focus.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's on his side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then for crime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When we talk about the boot action was a toast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like my guess is, and like to put it bluntly, I don't think he saw the ball pitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like in his head, I don't think he saw the ball pitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's like, all right, I'm gonna go after this quarterback, but is that make it okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, same, it's the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you're in that position, especially as the third level guy, like you would imagine,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I may be wrong based on this game, but the way that he reacted and how everybody else flew to the football, like I would imagine the force contained is on the first level, not the third level, so you playing hero ball in that moment, or thinking that you playing hero ball in that moment, like you could have came down and if you played this properly, you could have came down hill and maybe instead of a 15-yard game,
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got 15, and I think when we talk about the mistakes that this team makes, I'm not gonna just focus on crime, like sometimes these errors that these people are making like the bigger names that think about the names that we constantly throw out there, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's crime, it's sandwiched, Sam still got bliss.
14:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that touchdown, that guy called back, I forgot what the call was, but it was some bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember it being some bullshit in the moment, the flag, oh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
14:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, I mean, that's procedural.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe it wasn't bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but like one guy, I mean, Sam's still got blessed, but think about the names.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Kwon, Martian, Mikey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, those are the main three defensively.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then we're talking about, uh, offensively is the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Angie Wiley had solid solid games up to this point for me, but Um, Dre, you mentioned it last night, and then somebody else mentioned it as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember who it was, but they said that they thought they'd call in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing the other widely in the moment had it back again too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but like, offensively It's just everybody taking their turns with mistakes drop balls Chris Chris more had a good game, but then he had a couple drop passes too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like
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[SPEAKER_03]: those those mistakes sometimes just compile on top of another on top of one another and I think ultimately you know you don't know when it's going to start to click with this defense or this offense like you don't do it and that's kind of the frustrating thing is like you want to be patient right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: but also like as long as as much places as you provide or as much least as you provide to this team, it's like, but like get it together because this is crunch time now like we're actually in a serious part of our schedule and like that's the part did.
16:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm struggling with the seat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we have to point now and you know, when I said this a couple of weeks ago, people looked at me like I was crazy when I say, when they were saying, well, what can Joe with do?
16:31
[SPEAKER_04]: These are the players making all of the stakes out there.
16:34
[SPEAKER_04]: If I'm like, try somebody else.
16:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I see my guy, money ball in the chat saying bench Bobby Wagner.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When I said something like that early on, it was like, well, who are you going to put in?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's worse at this point?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even just single in our body lag.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just talking about anyone on the defense that you see are making consistent and routine mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What right now is the harm in trying something different?
16:55
[SPEAKER_04]: When you look at the qualm Martin's, you know, guys making the same mistakes over, no, but you want to discipline somebody and if you want to see if something else works, I want to see if my scheme works here.
17:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to see if this guy works my scheme a little bit.
17:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe try something different.
17:07
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I was saying early on or at least a couple of weeks ago when you talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What else can you do right now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because right now you, you know, like I said.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no one else coming in that's gonna save the day.
17:19
[SPEAKER_04]: They just signed a Drake Jackson today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who's an intriguing guy, but he had so many injuries.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't know if he's ever gonna beat a guy at the 40, nine is eventually trapped in him to beat.
17:30
[SPEAKER_04]: But my point is you're not signing anyone off the street that's gonna come in and instantly make this defense better or take this deep fist to somewhere else you wanna go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you gotta look at what you have in that room.
17:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if Bobby Wagner is too slow and covered
17:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is he playing 100% of the snaps on the field?
17:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what his snap count was yesterday, but for most part of this season, he's been playing 100% of the snaps.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So how do you start to decrease that role?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That seems like that's too much for Bobby Wagner, at this point in his career.
18:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Start working Jordan McGee and to these packages.
18:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if he makes some mistakes cool, so is Bobby Wagner, he's making mistakes.
18:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I mean, I don't know who's behind quaw Martin that's good or anything,
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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, try something different, you know, guys, I mean, maybe it's a discipline, maybe you sit them down for a couple of plays, not a whole game or something, you just try something different, you know, but yeah, it is a personnel issue, because like I said earlier, you're right now, this team is a elite or at least a really good, good past Russia away from being local, at least playing complimentary football when they beat this aside for football.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good guy.
18:40
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to have a door, so I'm showing you a team.
18:41
[SPEAKER_04]: But door is Armstrong's out of game changer.
18:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I don't know how long it takes for us to get that game changer defensive end or past pressure end.
18:48
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that helps any defensive coordinator, to joke with anybody.
18:52
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't have that right now, but we're also struggling with cover tissues.
18:55
[SPEAKER_04]: But I also think,
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you had that type of past Russia, that can mask those things, but we don't have that right now.
19:01
[SPEAKER_04]: So right now you have to look for those alternatives.
19:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is at the point of the season when you start to try to find those answers.
19:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I know Dan Quinn mentioned in his press conference today, one of the things he may try to do to find a solution is he's got to go back to the competition drawing board of practice.
19:16
[SPEAKER_04]: That means spots are up for grabs at this point.
19:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how to interpret that, but that could be what we're facing now, you know, what
19:24
[SPEAKER_03]: One thing that Quand mentioned in his pressure today, you were talking about the line of backers, and both you all were talking about the line of backers at some point, like the younger guys, you know, he said it wasn't pleased with the second level of run fits in the last last game.
19:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, with most things, even though with the complimentary, with the complimentary things, I like, then things I didn't like, things didn't,
19:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate these transcriptions, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got to work on my Floyd Mill level build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build build
20:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I saw like what hurts the most, I even on it was an early run like probably the second third play to game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Audrey Swift went for like seven yards and it could have went for even a bigger play, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're as.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's inexplicable like for me because I just don't know I can't get in the mind of these guys and I don't know like what is fooling them like they're on paying lined up as a nose nose guard zero tech right and Uh the the um the bears had a tight-end post snap Send their tight-end across the formation the the plate the run play was to their offensive left
21:08
[SPEAKER_03]: the tight end was sent post snap across the formation to the right and you got the rompane is a nose to nose guards your technique and he says the block right so think about it as your zero take your plan to guess right you're playing on a left and the right and he sees the tight end like you already they already handed the ball off to swift he sees the tight end bra and he runs with the tight end.
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[SPEAKER_03]: completely vacates the A-gaps and by God's grace, I don't know who it was that made the play or the tackle, but if they didn't make that play, and the injury was like savvy enough or had the right instincts, like the vision, like we're talking about a seven-yard game being like 20.
21:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And,
22:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, later on in the game, it just got to them.
22:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think like, the way to their eyes were all three levels, they just were super aggressive and biting on like some of the first things that they see or just the eye candy.
22:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I, I mean, I said it last night, but like, that's just kind of one of the areas of of Focus that they really need to be paying attention to in practice.
22:26
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if that's one chance because that's kind of the nature of the defense or the the top kind of team that they had, bro.
22:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And when it comes to certain players, like, Marsha on that's one person, like Mikey, I think he has a whole different deal going on because like he's getting tested vertically a lot.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, uh, defensively, I, I, and I think somebody in the chat mentioned or so there's two things, shout out to Caleb, who's okay, I don't know if he's still in here.
22:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm gonna get to your point last, because that's kind of a larger conversation.
23:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody else mentioned, um, who was it, I don't want to scroll over here.
23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, um,
23:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't find, oh, so like I think we're past the point of like all season conversations or or a given like I'm not saying you're wrong, but like in in this moment week six going into week seven work past the point of like all season acquisitions or given time for AP to build like I want to remind everybody.
23:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we didn't think that I 100% agree.
23:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that anybody thought that this defense will be top 10 after the all season that they had this year.
23:47
[SPEAKER_03]: But you thought that they were going to be drastically improved because they had a specific focus, right?
23:54
[SPEAKER_03]: They wanted to get better in the run game.
23:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they got two solid corner bags and trade animals and march on out of more.
24:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Proceeds out of it, right?
24:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Traimals has shown like none of the bullshit has affected him.
24:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he the one guy in the second there it is like all right cool like I'm doing my thing.
24:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the fuck y'all doing Even though he did fuck up in Atlanta One time or a couple times, but like that's one thing right like You don't need to worry about the all season.
24:24
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need to worry about the all season right now.
24:26
[SPEAKER_03]: We got eleven weeks left like focus on what's here and what's right now But the bigger conversation
24:32
[SPEAKER_03]: does come with Joe Whitt and Caleb mentioned Joe Whitt.
24:36
[SPEAKER_03]: He thinks that they need to fire Joe Whitt.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm in this space, Jerry, and AJ.
24:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where I wanted to get you all taken on.
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think last night had a lot of do with Joe Whitt from a schematic standpoint.
25:04
[SPEAKER_03]: who's unit consistently box up has no signs of getting better regardless of who's playing and who's not.
25:17
[SPEAKER_03]: They're clearly continuing the bus conferences, right?
25:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't keep pushing in the media like what you want to do, what you need to do if it's not working.
25:31
[SPEAKER_03]: At some point, Dan Quinn will have to make a decision about one of his good friends that he brought on to be a DC and that conversation, I think, is more real than anything else because after two seasons, two off seasons, you've been able to get some pieces here and there.
25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: to help build your defense.
25:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Not to say that it's all it's the vision and exactly where you want it.
25:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But you banked on somebody's guys who's on your garage right now, that's not playing good.
26:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's ultimately where I'm at.
26:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't think that like the final conversation doesn't exist right now, but the fact that Caleb brought it up is like, short, part of what is not working is going to visibly or perceivably look
26:22
[SPEAKER_03]: detrimental to the coordinator who cannot get this shit together.
26:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, position coaches exist too, but who is the main person in charge?
26:30
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be the coordinator.
26:31
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to look at the coordinator and uh, trade.
26:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So what you're saying over the last couple of weeks as well, um, that kind of goes to your point.
26:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't own you at this point.
26:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It don't matter if they can't get right, which they can't.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't own you,
26:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, people are going to say Joe with Jr.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: needs to get fired, whatever, I just think over all they don't have the person up.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you can't, I guess that's why I'm... Paul, I'm gonna let you finish.
27:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to ask this question to your response.
27:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if they don't have the person down, how long are you willing?
27:16
[SPEAKER_03]: It's nobody wrong answer.
27:16
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just, I'm trying to get your perspective.
27:18
[SPEAKER_03]: How long are you willing to wait to see if
27:23
[SPEAKER_03]: How many all season are you willing to wait to see it?
27:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Whit got everything he needs to put his defense to play to the level that they need to play it.
27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that's a tough question to answer here because they still all be working in unison with each other.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: From the coaches, the personnel staff, to the head coach, like, hey,
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: these guys that you're adding here for for me to work with.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't cook the food that you want.
27:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You're filming like if you say you want.
28:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You want spaghetti and meatballs and you give me ham and you give me ham and it's with cheese I can't make spaghetti and meatballs from that and that's essentially what the defense is like You have no elite players defensively so because you don't have elite players you need everybody to do they damn job
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: When they on the field and we've seen it we've seen guys trying to play hero ball We've seen guys not really doing what they're supposed to do within the integrity of the defense I mean, yeah, you touched on like a couple plays with crime, but it's been more plays than that It's just simple things like he can't you can't make I'm gonna fuck it get an interception You've been me at the ball is there for you to go in double coverage and get a pick you should be able to get that
28:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, well, you also know, too, that same plate he gave the 55 yarder.
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, who was right next to him when, when, when, Juan, Mr. Tackle, uh, that was more starting.
29:00
[SPEAKER_03]: But now I'm not blaming, I'm not blaming Mars, I'm not blaming Mars on for the mistackle.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm blaming him for the effort in terms of like not finishing through the whistle.
29:10
[SPEAKER_03]: He assumed the play was over.
29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's the only thing I pointed out.
29:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That was wrong, but also quomped into him throwing them off like, what are you even doing here?
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You feel me?
29:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't, yeah, I mean, it's a lot to do I said.
29:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people have tried to miss and march on, but obviously over the past few weeks, he hasn't been playing as bad as people would have it out to believe.
29:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Even like, I sit here with the Mikey San Francisco thing.
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it is hard to play nickel corn and back in the NFL.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Extremely hard.
29:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Mikey did a better job on the outside,
29:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, he might be better suited as the free safety.
29:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It might be better for him to keep his eyes on the quarterback and make a read.
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: because at this point, quite more in is not that God to be your last time defense, right?
30:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a lot of things in the can't improve because you can't make a bunch of changes.
30:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Every week we're seeing while sitting in the mix of the waiver wire, in a sense, like having different guys work out.
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, today they added Drake Jackson, who's a former San Francisco 49er, if I'm not mistaken, play the USC coming out of college, whatever.
30:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what what's the plan for Drake Jackson like because to me he's more so of the of the elk of a Jacob Martin like so what is the plan for him you also brought in the process live so that just tells me
30:41
[SPEAKER_02]: you have pieces on your roster, but you're not satisfied with them, because while I think it keeps being involved in so many different conversations at different positions, they've added a robby chosen.
30:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Traylon Berks is supposed to be coming in for a visit tomorrow as well.
30:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so what are we actually doing here?
30:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Because guys are getting added last minute.
31:00
[SPEAKER_02]: whatever the case is so it's it's like the coaches can only do but so much and yes they will get the blame and that's why for me it'd be hard for me to be a coach because it's like you're telling a motherfucker on a regular basis sorry to curse you telling a motherfucker on a regular basis what to do what what's about to happen what this looks like from film review on that and then they just go out there and do the complete opposite of everything you've been coaching them up
31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: for the entire year and you would mention that you were a coach, right?
31:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Say that again?
31:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I say you would mention them if you were a coach and they continue to go against your master.
31:36
[SPEAKER_02]: If I was the coach, I'd probably kill one of them.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be Bob Knight.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's not an option.
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not an option, but that's why some of us, some of us can't be coaches, you feel me.
31:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if I were to be coaching the youth, I would have a problem because it's like, I'm telling you, what is about to happen?
31:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving you all of the tips and tricks of what is going to take place and you still as a grown-ass man who's getting paid a lot of money.
32:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't do that.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of frustrating because
32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's it's the interesting thing.
32:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we none of us thought that they were going to go undefeated this year, right?
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just like it's how it was brought to me.
32:20
[SPEAKER_03]: It's I don't yeah, I don't get it.
32:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess what I'm saying like how they lose bread is so it's aggravating because it's not like you are competent in all three phases of the game, right?
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you have
32:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You, you are leaking like a sack, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,
33:01
[SPEAKER_04]: But what is that to me?
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But the whole back, I was going to finish off with.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, it kind of is what it is.
33:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do it for so much.
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You film me, you can't, you can't do it for so much.
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that I just think that, um, the same, I don't even know, bro.
33:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because I'm not really as frustrated as a lot of people
33:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that we need to see them play consistent for ball all three levels of game.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have not been saying that yet so far, even though they're three and three, we have not been able to pinpoint to a game like last year and been like, oh yeah, they played, they played.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: at a late level offensively or they played at a late level defensively or special scenes or even all three.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: We have been seeing the offense be a lead yet.
33:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't seen the defense be a lead in any game.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we haven't seen special things be a lead in any aspect because you still just kick her out here.
34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Missing missing fucking kicks.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, like so it's just like you haven't seen that actually part of the conversation, though, AJ like,
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're not concerned or upset, that's cool.
34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, I'm not very yet a lot.
34:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm angry when we lose.
34:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm angry when we lose.
34:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's how we lose and upsets me.
34:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Even when we, in the games that we've won, we've shown like the red flags for why we can't get shit together on both sides of the boat.
34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think for Washington, when you're talking about when laws, when laws, when laws like that track, it's only a matter of time till we're talking about
34:58
[SPEAKER_03]: either you lose two straight or you can win back the back and like in terms of consecutive wins or consecutive losses like it's a matter of time like you can't you can't go the whole season some of some win laws when laws that's not going to happen that's not going to happen at all and you're talking about going to begins in Dallas in the number one offense in NFL right and with without CD at this point and I'm more always in NFL
35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is a team that has started slowing every game on the road.
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And in multiple games recently, they've been down 10 plus points.
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, of course, it's cool not to be upset or mad, but like I think there's a legitimate concern level
35:48
[SPEAKER_03]: for people out there.
35:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope that this doesn't come across to people that has listened to the audience.
35:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, this is like fear mongering.
35:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's the right word.
35:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't like, we're just addressing, I guess what appears to be the reality, especially with like this defense and then slow stars.
36:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I think all of this is important.
36:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a legitimate question.
36:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like I said, we haven't seen the team that we saw last year, which is concerned him because at this point, it's fair to say that it feels like the team has taken a step back.
36:21
[SPEAKER_04]: It's still a lot of season to be played and it's still some time to turn it around.
36:25
[SPEAKER_04]: But I want to see the hunger for this team.
36:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Like last year, they came out like,
36:30
[SPEAKER_04]: We want to let you all know that we're here and we don't come out here and we're going to dictate how we're going to play, especially on the offensive side of the football defense had the issues, but eventually they settled in, at least the place in conflict with memory football, but this year nothing has really settled in yet and I do, you know, you could probably attribute that to the injuries and all, like, you know, I'm seeing some in the chat saying that you miss and Terry, well, you miss Terry and no one last night sure you missed those guys, you need those guys.
36:56
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to make you a better team, but
36:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel like their absences was the reason why you lost yesterday.
37:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, that game was there to be worn without their absences.
37:06
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I have people telling me that all day on the day, but I'm like, no, like the chancellor there, we're making mental mistakes that we weren't making last year.
37:14
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, whether that's on the defense, whether that's on the office.
37:17
[SPEAKER_04]: And when you talk about the defense, tell us in the question about Joe Whitt.
37:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't agree with N.C.
37:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Zephyrans only because I don't really feel like you get unless there's like something where, you know, the guy is just getting into with the players that they don't get along with the guy, whatever.
37:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But if it's not that, I don't agree with N.C.
37:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Zephyr because I don't feel like you get much better from that.
37:40
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you get much better in season just because you fired this guy?
37:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Unless this guy is just a detriment to the team to some kind of way.
37:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Now I know Jay Tyler, me and him have had some conversations before.
37:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And Jay Tyler, you know, was alluded more to the players and saying that, you know, he thinks that the players are, or Joe widest lost the defense.
37:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Then I'm like, what is the disconnect?
38:01
[SPEAKER_04]: For me, that's what I want to know at this point.
38:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, why is there this disconnect between Joe and the guys that he's up there coaching?
38:09
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, then we can sit up here talk about the players and what they don't have, you know, the lack of attributes, whatever.
38:15
[SPEAKER_04]: But Joe with it, some point you can get something out of these guys, because before this season, we all thought Mikey Sanford still was kind of poised to have, you know, at least be a solid corner.
38:25
[SPEAKER_04]: We felt like Marshall had a more, you know, he comes out, he'll have a better season after being healthy.
38:32
[SPEAKER_04]: We felt like Juan Martin was about to be on the verge of breaking out.
38:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Dan Quinto does that himself, like me and AJ, we differ and why Dan Quinto did that.
38:40
[SPEAKER_04]: But to the point
38:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Then you have the defensive line.
38:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought Jifon Kinlob was going to be a good sign.
38:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Which I mean, I think he's been, I think he's a good thing.
38:52
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been one of the better ones this season.
38:54
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think I think that Chicago game was probably the one game where he's just been super quiet.
38:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, right.
39:00
[SPEAKER_04]: But I say a lot of it to say.
39:02
[SPEAKER_04]: that before this season we thought we at least had guys that could make this defense maybe not a top 10 is I didn't expect top 10 but I at least thought they can get you somewhere in that middle of a pack and they can play complimentary football and you could at least get that out of this group.
39:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah sure that may not be you know I'll leave guys in there but and these guys are listening to you and they're they're buying into what you're selling
39:24
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to play hard for you, and it's going to show up in the results.
39:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, you know, you may not get to stop every time, but you're going to go out there and play complimentary football.
39:31
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't really seen that from this week this year.
39:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, you know, of course, like I said, Joe, it may need more talent.
39:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Why can't we get more out of these guys because we thought these guys all had good reputation coming into this season now everyone's like these guys all tracks they're all shit they're all ass you know what I'm saying so I just feel like there's more to be getting gotten out of these players that we haven't gotten yet like I said it's not only Joe with you know those players that's not been done you know or whatever you want to call it
39:58
[SPEAKER_04]: but something has to be, you have to respond to some kind of way, and I do believe there's a disconnect.
40:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And who knows if there's disconnect is physical or solvable, but if it's not solvable, if it's not fixable, then sure, after this season, you could look in a different direction, but I do not agree with NC's and fire because I just don't think it helps much.
40:17
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's get to the offense, but I want to get your opinions on one thing and then we get to the offense.
40:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Two moves, two, that you all will make.
40:28
[SPEAKER_03]: defensively two changes, and I want to hear from the chat to two changes.
40:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I will make defensively right now going into Dallas week.
40:37
[SPEAKER_03]: What would they be?
40:41
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I would bench Juan Martin.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have planned.
40:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I would.
40:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have allowed Darnell Savage or Tyler Owen to get more of those reps.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I'm overseeing qua mart on the field, um, then another move that I would make is I would, I would allow Jordan McGue to play a little bit more, let him get a little bit more snaps defensively, uh, whether that be at past rush, uh, because a lot of people don't remember
41:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he was doing a lot of those drills, but I would, I would let McGee get on a field on the field a little bit more, um, but those are my, my two things because it's kind of hard when you say, hey, bump, bump Mikey back outside.
41:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a lot of the people don't understand trade almost as strictly outside corner.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Marcia on the strictly outside corner.
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
41:51
[SPEAKER_02]: if you if you want to move might you anywhere we had to be to the bench and that would mean no a plan no a egg binogany or Jonathan Jones plant slot corner uh... maybe that's maybe that's a bonus thing and having Jonathan Jones if he's able to return back
42:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a him be the slot corner, but for me, definitively, I will move on Martin off the field.
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good off Brad, I don't, I don't need to see any more from him, like, and I would definitely let Jordan McGee play a bit more steps from an overall standpoint.
42:29
[SPEAKER_04]: For me, AJ, you made a good point earlier about Mike Sanderson still, and I thought about this because Mike Sanderson still is really good when he's able to watch the quarterback he's able to play, make plays on the ball.
42:48
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, use his strengths to the best because Mikey's not a bad player.
42:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think Mikey's a bad player at all.
42:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Mikey has strengths in those strengths can be really useful, especially when you talk about he's the only guy I feel like on a defense that can consistently make plays on the ball.
43:01
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the guy that consistently can get you to turnovers.
43:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So put him in positions like a hybrid role, sort of speak, where he's in positions to make more plays more often when he's not trail in defenders and, you know, playing press man to man coverage of that, especially in a slot.
43:15
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a tough position.
43:16
[SPEAKER_04]: That will be my first, and my second, I'm with the body-wagon of things.
43:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Body-wagon, yeah.
43:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you have to start decreasing as usage.
43:23
[SPEAKER_04]: The creases roll.
43:25
[SPEAKER_04]: It's start bringing Jordan McGee up, you know?
43:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I met the point of, what's the worst that can happen at this point?
43:30
[SPEAKER_04]: It's Jordan McGee, I'll be scared that Jordan McGee is gonna just fly out, go out there and give up every play and burn you, you know.
43:37
[SPEAKER_04]: in a game because right now, the alternative isn't any better.
43:41
[SPEAKER_04]: This team isn't making stops in that greedy turnovers.
43:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's a bin, but don't break beefness that can't play opportunistic football.
43:51
[SPEAKER_04]: So to me, that's as bad as it gets because you can't do anything right in that facet.
43:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you're just kind of escorting teams.
43:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Should we score the Chicago till at least the 30 yard line every time it seems like?
44:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they only point in one time yesterday.
44:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's given up a lot.
44:08
[SPEAKER_03]: but Swift went five curries for like 34 yards on the last driver.
44:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, and Drake, right tell the people, tell, you didn't even, we talked about this before we started the show.
44:16
[SPEAKER_03]: But, what did you do after Jaden Daniels fumble the ball, bro?
44:18
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44:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I started getting prepared for the show.
44:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I turned to TV all.
44:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I went and did a couple of things downstairs, cleaned up a little bit.
44:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you knew the game was over.
44:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I caught the field girl when I came back up stays and got ready for the show.
44:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know I was going to have that.
44:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, five carries for 34 yards, brought on the last drive, bro.
44:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and I think like the more frustrating things, it's like when people went,
44:55
[SPEAKER_03]: not about anything like when people talk about them being frustrated about this game but I think it holds more weight because of like the but even the conversation we had on Thursday, right, previewing the bears game all the parallels that Washington has with Washington with Chicago like there's so much time that ties into Chicago and Washington playing each other and like the comparison throughout the season.
45:22
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want to lose that game from that aspect.
45:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But then also, like, you don't want to lose the game period.
45:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And the way in which you lose is a big deal.
45:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, for them to, like, but it wasn't even close the way they lost.
45:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that last drive, they got positive yards, every fucking play.
45:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And like in a moment where your team needs you to step up, where are you couldn't do it?
45:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, granted, let's acknowledge, this is just one game.
45:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's more important than anything else that people need to realize.
46:00
[SPEAKER_03]: This team can really surprise you as long as they're locked in throughout the week.
46:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a really good deal.
46:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I don't know if it's going to come to the defense side, but that all physics side, uh, and let's transition to that.
46:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Sam probably mentioned that if he didn't play against Chicago, he was going to be back in his Dallas.
46:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So those are his words, I know it's not easy to listen to players and believe what they say in terms of the medical side, right?
46:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But assuming that he's right, you may not have to worry about why I think no more, right?
46:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Unless they've been Chris Paul, right?
46:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Not bad.
46:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And put a lot of it over there.
46:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But when I worry about why I think no more,
46:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Side note, Connelly has been pretty quiet, not at while he's, why do you know why I like this?
46:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That's three weeks, three or four weeks like, Connelly hasn't been perfect.
46:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I've seen Washington tape, I've seen a few ladies were Jayden dang who's saving him.
46:59
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's besides the point, like he's a rookie.
47:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll let, I'll let that shit slide.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, Sam Cosby's supposed to be coming back.
47:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Terry McClure in, um, he's been teetering on,
47:14
[SPEAKER_03]: coming back the last couple of weeks.
47:16
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, right, like, I don't know what, but AJ, I'm not sure if I let me talk to you.
47:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Ain't no way in hell, you look at Chris Moore in 12 personnel in 13 personnel and Chris Moore's out there on that field, and you say,
47:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that Chris Moore's out here, because he's a threat to his defense.
47:47
[SPEAKER_03]: He can make anything happen.
47:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no problems that fucking Terry McClure and is not playing or where to fucking his D-Boy went.
47:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause obviously last night,
48:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I was supposed to prize by Debo's usage.
48:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, granted, I know he was getting some treatment.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Like in terms of like his ankle or shit like that, that's one thing.
48:11
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's also to my point, like if he's hurt, I ain't by the fucking deal.
48:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Chris Moore and like Traylon Berks coming in again, like I said, if you over your entertainer, Traylon Berks, not saying that he's some trash, but if you entertain and Traylon Berks, you need help.
48:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, I think a few, you know, like, why are they?
48:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I feel like you got Robbie chosen.
48:35
[SPEAKER_04]: You brought him in.
48:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even like him.
48:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he was good.
48:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was done three years ago.
48:40
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, what do we do in here?
48:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Because, I mean, I mean, obviously, I think Terry and Noah, I mean, that's where I'm first going to.
48:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, are these guys,
48:51
[SPEAKER_04]: that close to coming back.
48:52
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm honestly just kind of not going to count on them.
48:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm surprised.
48:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I mean, no, I'm surprised with his plan.
48:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But for me, it's like, I mean, because I know D-Bows did a list issues and made me D-Bows head it for, you know, a couple of games, rest of it, whatever.
49:06
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, are they scared of Terry, isn't that, you know, close to coming back?
49:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Because we really don't know Terry status.
49:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we just keep hearing.
49:14
[SPEAKER_04]: that you know, oh, and I hope that he plays this week and they hope that he plays this week.
49:17
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going all week forward at Terry, maybe Misson, which means they could, I heard him back when they first came up with the injury news.
49:23
[SPEAKER_04]: If he misses this week, but I mean, that's something to monitor this week, but I'm just a little confused with the Traylon Berks working up because I'm like, all right, I mean, did they not like what they have in a stable as far as, you know, like the robby chosen as the Tate Martins that they got?
49:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a fan of Chris Moore and I don't think many people are.
49:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He made one great catch last night, which, you know, maybe redeemed the drop from last and then he dropped a couple.
49:44
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just not reliable.
49:46
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe that's what the Tray-Law perks thing is coming in for, but I don't know if I feel like they like him.
49:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just confusing anybody who works with Tray-Law perks help.
49:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
49:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to give a guy that's the first round pick opportunity.
49:58
[SPEAKER_02]: He got the size still kind of stiff, but I mean, when you got a Chris Moore on your active roster, and you've also made tape Martin active multiple times, you now can't move him back to the practice squad.
50:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just kind of like, it's just a roster management.
50:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Overall, I'm seeing like posting here about debo not being healthy.
50:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they're bringing in Traylon Berks No, you really don't have no you don't have no guys at the white receiver position I mean, yes, some people are championed like even Luke McAfrey were playing better, but I
50:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that someone you really went over at Lyon?
50:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's made some nice catches, but last night, even the touchdown, that was a butt naked.
50:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that was a beautiful call by Cliff.
50:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a catch, you know what I was called.
50:50
[SPEAKER_04]: That I can credit for that.
50:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
50:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
50:52
[SPEAKER_04]: The tough contestant catch, that was called.
50:54
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51:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I got a gift from credit for some of these two weeks in a row to the age of two weeks in a row.
51:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't a full day.
51:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it wasn't useful.
51:13
[SPEAKER_03]: The rep, the rep still happened.
51:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not about to sit here like because Jay Tizzy's saying he feels a trail on Berksfield in certain rural.
51:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I think one of the mistakes that we're going to get into when we talk about a trail on or any receiver that comes around it, like we have nothing.
51:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, these guys are coming from different schemes.
51:40
[SPEAKER_03]: They are different type of players that we are unfamiliar with, like, from our standpoint.
51:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Y'all can do what y'all want to do.
51:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to sit here and say, I know exactly what Traylon Berg's role is going to do.
51:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Roe is going to be here.
51:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I know you mentioned, I'm so much as to, I know you mentioned Dibo Samuel, and in terms of, like, he's going to do the shit that he, that he did.
51:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even, I don't even, I don't even, I don't even, I don't even
52:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that I wouldn't
52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I was like, Jaha Dawson, he literally was the next thing.
52:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a year before AJ moved.
52:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Or the same year to AJ got moved.
52:39
[SPEAKER_02]: The same year, AJ broke out moved.
52:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That's they made the trade and literally went and got Traylon Berks.
52:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So what Jaha Dawson got picked 16th overall, and then the 17th pick was Traylon Berks.
52:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just,
52:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know.
52:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when someone goes first round, you got to give him opportunity.
52:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it kind of even goes back to the Devon Kenlaw thing.
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, traits, AP obviously believes in traits.
53:06
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people question the signing of Devon Kenlaw.
53:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I could say that he's played.
53:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He's played.
53:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He's played to the level of the contract.
53:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He's shown where he has the ability to jump on that good, right?
53:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's shown that he has the ability, and it's just based on some guys got to be in different situations.
53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, we'll see if he gets added to the team, but they could use some guys with some more size and a little bit more of a physical presence to their game.
53:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I mean, at the end of the day, you're pretty much just hoping that you strike on somebody and hit and they're able to be productive.
53:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't even really focused on the office.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: They still need to run them back.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, Bill is solid, but at the end of the day, you got two fumbles.
53:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And you haven't even had a bunch of workload yet.
54:01
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of concerning.
54:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just see if the team can be consistent, especially going into this Dallas week.
54:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Dallas has a high potent offense.
54:13
[SPEAKER_02]: The defense isn't really good, but can they flip the field?
54:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Can they bring some heat to that press guy?
54:21
[SPEAKER_02]: can they possibly slow down George Piggins and C.D.
54:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Lamb, who might become back, but yeah.
54:30
[SPEAKER_03]: To the bill point, 1427 on Twitter.
54:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to double check.
54:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so he's getting that's 31, I think 31 attempts over the last two games.
54:51
[SPEAKER_03]: uh, 14 and 17 and essentially what you're fumbling, if you're, if you got two fumbles in your fumbling, uh, or 31, about 15 every, every 15 snaps or 15 carries you fumbling bro.
55:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you got to think about that like if you was shopping like that, extrapolate that
55:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And that necessarily at number one, um, now granted, I want to give Bill credit cuz like after you found booty did it with a solid job, um, I'm a clear, he didn't find what again, but like he did a solid job, just protecting the ball and also like just found some found whatever room he was able to find the offensive law for whatever reason was actually surprising to me cuz like I'm used to them
55:46
[SPEAKER_03]: by over the last, obviously like three, four weeks.
55:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly seasoned long.
55:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw the green big game.
55:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they took care of business.
55:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So this week gets Chicago from a run-to-game standpoint, not as scrambled over all because overall, you got like 130, 140 y'all's Russian.
56:05
[SPEAKER_03]: That's good.
56:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But from a run games standpoint, low surprising that it wasn't able to like really spring in it, they're running backs for some big plays, but to AJ's point and I agree, and I said to justify to like, you know, when you get more carries, right, like you got a, I two fumbles and 31 carries is not good.
56:29
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, back to that good, but it's too early to give up on him, but I agree with my guy, Jay Talley here, man.
56:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Chris Rodriguez.
56:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I do think they have to get a more ballpark.
56:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I still like the running back room that they have.
56:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And I actually think this is one of the least concerns on offense, as far as, I think it's one of the lower priorities of trying to upgrade.
56:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I still like what you have in that room.
56:52
[SPEAKER_04]: J-Mac, and that J-Mac runs hard is held at least in the opportunities that he gets.
56:57
[SPEAKER_04]: But I want to see Chris Rarriguez kind of use more so in them tackles and kind of alternate with Bill like let them two kind of wear the defense out.
57:07
[SPEAKER_04]: you know, the giants when you had thunder and lightning with Ron Dane, I think it was, was it a moment when was Brandon James and I ran into him.
57:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, those two guys, you know what I'm saying?
57:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So like, I missed those days when you kind of had that power back and the, you know, the cutting back that can kind of come in and do something different, the change of peace back.
57:27
[SPEAKER_04]: So to speak, that's what I thought Bill's role would be, but, you know,
57:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the last couple of weeks was to see what Bill can do with an increased workflow, because obviously, his y'all's been carried was super high.
57:40
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're like, okay, what can this guy do with an expanded role?
57:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And those two funnels don't help him, but at the same time, his way too early to give up on him and kind of say, all right, you kind of shift it, you know, towards more to pitch.
57:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Now let him let him work those through.
57:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, obviously, I do think that, you know, he can't fumble any more this season, you know, I mean, I know that's kind of, you know, slippery slope for it.
58:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Then why wouldn't, but he asked to know that he can't fumble any more.
58:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think he's one of those kids that can go out there through that he can't be relied on.
58:09
[SPEAKER_04]: So early to give up on him.
58:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And I like to run it back home.
58:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm not, when I say that, I'm not saying give up on him, but if you have the
58:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to look into it because I feel like at that running back position, you're essentially got to draft the running back every year until you hit on one, so I don't believe it.
58:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's not a problem, but I think I think this office could use a little bit more firepower.
58:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why a lot of us got excited about Bill within the run game, because you feel like he could possibly take that to the crib, or he has better vision.
58:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I just think that if somebody is available as we get closer to trade deadlines
59:01
[SPEAKER_02]: this season before the deadline.
59:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's something that you got to be intrigued by like, hey, could I add a breeze halt to this office?
59:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Could I add a dream from the running bag?
59:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not intrigued.
59:13
[SPEAKER_04]: We got to get younger as a team with home grown talent.
59:15
[SPEAKER_04]: We can't keep giving up picks for other people.
59:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Got five draft picks, bro.
59:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're talking about just, you're talking about the 2,026 draft class, but I mean, you can go into other years, like, you can.
59:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't disagree with that, but also, like, I think, okay, if, if you could add a brief haul of Alvin Kumar to this, to this offense, you're going to be more concerned about picks from two years from now.
59:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because.
59:47
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the added wind value that those two guys bring to the team right now?
59:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think that what's holding you back as a team and holding you back from Lens is the run-and-back from or Alvin Kemera or Brishaal?
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, for me, if I was the even entertainer tree, which I just don't think is going to happen this year, it will be on a defensive side of the football.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I think that's the only place that you can add value to the team at this point.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who you can trade for.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm just going, I'm looking at free agency at this point.
1:00:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm trying to find a safe.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not saying that that safe is going to start.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying, nigga, we need somebody.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at safety or I'm looking at age for to go alongside Doris.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm trying to figure out how I can make this defensive line that I personally not coaches, I personally have respect for it, but how can I make this like actual dominant group when we're talking about third and got ahead of it, second and got ahead of it and like this defensive line gets a sack and you can trust the big one get the pressure without you without you sending that bliss.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't I don't I don't know who that's gonna be but that that's the only reason why AJ where I say like we talk about that running back spot bro.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not I'm not over here thinking about trading for that position for it's just I mean I guess like I feel like they're missing something in the run game and then the running back being involved in the past game I mean we've seen how heavily involved
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, last night, luckily, big nickels was able to get like a first down on that dump-off, but they don't have, they don't have anyone necessarily that could run good enough routes coming out of the backfield.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know, at the end of the day, I'm open to seeing what happens in general.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, CJ Gardner Johnson is not somebody, I'm even thinking of that.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the bad locker room guy.
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_02]: solid player on the field if you can remove the money ball you just don't understand bro
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_03]: What did they say?
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He said some earlier, bro.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I had it on the screen.
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you know, bro.
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I came in.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't ain't going to do a bro.
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't ain't going to get it.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_03]: He was over here trying.
1:02:23
[SPEAKER_04]: He was trying to be this old world, brother.
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1:02:45
[SPEAKER_03]: That's your mother blocker, but that's the thing, though.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the office of mine has been fine in the first game all season.
1:02:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, David didn't have time last night, not that far.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I was I wanted more to look at the angel while he was like, is that I swear?
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that I've heard I felt pressure through my screen when he was driving back last night.
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, where the fuck is this password coming from?
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad he got the ball all quick in in most situations.
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, like, that pressure came in random times, all like, especially when it was third down.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
1:03:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at defense first.
1:03:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the most important thing, Burke, and I know it's gonna piss me off.
1:03:30
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm glad that's up the day off, but tomorrow I'm a man of first thing in the morning.
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, I don't understand.
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's kind of,
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate that I agree with people when they say like, people are so overreactive, wins or losses, but like, and losses people have like this, the world is over, mentality and, you know, I think is irresponsible, I'll have to do that early in the season because for example, because we were doing our show, and I don't think
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_03]: that this is the same thing but what I will say is like you just never knew the commanders went on like a four game or five game Winchester I don't remember it was with Taylor Hayne Kean like the 2022 season, 2023 season, whatever year did they play Vegas, I remember that it was a Winchester year, whatever year did they play Vegas and Vegas,
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And they were in like, positioning for a playoff spot.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't like three or four straight.
1:04:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, that came out of nowhere.
1:04:52
[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't good.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_03]: They ended up folding down the shirts.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_03]: No questions about that.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_03]: But I say that to say, like, again, you don't know where the spark comes from.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think like at this early point in the season,
1:05:07
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1:05:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
1:05:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it though.
1:05:37
[SPEAKER_02]: How the fucking hell the sale of iron and keys name get brought up in this conversation, bro What I want to know Because I just got mad forget even the loss
1:05:52
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they even had to read Taylor Hanukis name.
1:05:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see what I'm getting at.
1:06:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That's actually crazy because like AJ, I can't believe AJ just pulled a money bowl.
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_03]: That's ridiculous.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, what I'm saying is, what if I am money ball?
1:06:11
[SPEAKER_04]: You might be a burden because he didn't agree with you a lot.
1:06:14
[SPEAKER_04]: He said he's always on one.
1:06:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you agree with you one more time, we buy the boots you off the show for the rest of the show.
1:06:21
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so here's my last thing.
1:06:24
[SPEAKER_03]: All I'm saying is in that moment and y'all know, y'all know for a fact.
1:06:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't go back to that where I don't go back to nothing, pre Dan Quinn Josh here on this.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't do that no more.
1:06:36
[SPEAKER_03]: All I'm saying is when it happened, we didn't see that happening, right?
1:06:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that moment where things turned around
1:06:44
[SPEAKER_03]: for for a millisecond it happened right we didn't see it coming all I'm saying is the way things are turning out with the way they're playing defensively in the way like this offense gets to the slow starts I just think that there's something that you got to be mindful of like we may not see it coming and we don't know what this the switch for the click will be for this team I think that there's an opportunity here I can't tell anybody
1:07:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it's going to be I have and I have reasons for why they or I have areas where they can improve and we can make them play better right I just think like in this moment with this stretch coming up There's opportunity some proof These some of these games are one of who it's not like you're gonna lose five street.
1:07:28
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like you're gonna lose four or three street Right you have an opportunity right now to turn things around and I just don't know
1:07:37
[SPEAKER_03]: The pinpoint or a cat a cat a cat a cat a list and what it'll be.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know what the cat a list will be.
1:07:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think that People need to be open to the idea that things will change.
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and in this defense can turn things around.
1:07:52
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's I just understand it is and I'm aware that it's hard to see it.
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's where I was getting it.
1:08:00
[SPEAKER_03]: It was hard to see it then they won that four game stretch.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a random team, right, a random roster.
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think that when you think about situations and teams generally speaking,
1:08:16
[SPEAKER_03]: That is why you've got to understand, like, Facebook is just pop off in any second and granted.
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we're talking about two different quarterbacks, or two different rosters.
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think it's important to acknowledge that, you know, that's how, or that's how weak the week and how much of a high variable and a failure, that the team that they are, like that's just, that's just what they are, but it's possible.
1:08:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I said let me see your point more and I'm going to finish with this.
1:08:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I think this team's going to have to lean into Dan Quinn and where he brings to the table.
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Like everyone, you know, former players, even current players always talk about how they love DQ, how they play for him.
1:08:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think if they really love playing for a guy like DQ, they really, especially talking about the deepest and sadder football office or two.
1:09:07
[SPEAKER_04]: But in general, we're to discipline the overall discipline of the team that's to get better.
1:09:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's too many mental areas, there's too many guys, you know, like some people might say they're not listening to a wick or whatever.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But if anything, they're gonna have to play for each other.
1:09:20
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're gonna have to feed off a day in Queens energy.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think this is what day in Queens is a CEO comes through.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_04]: How can you get these guys the plate for you?
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_04]: How can you get these guys to believe in what you're bringing to the table like especially last year?
1:09:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, this group maybe a little bit more talent in the last year.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_04]: They may not be saying much because it's still a flaw roster, but how can you get to that point when you feel like you can go out and win any game?
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's like a whole unit.
1:09:46
[SPEAKER_04]: So they're going to have to play together to play for each other.
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it starts with then Quinn getting that energy out of the guys if they're going to have any kind of
1:09:59
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, cool.
1:10:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we good then plumber was up Who's pointing there?
1:10:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, but you know what time man, but that dog Mom, maybe we have a cut mom.
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Mom the drinking out the bottle all My mom all like how you talking to me, bro.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, bro, you're gonna have to see me with the hands We're put up to the next dog Open up a call Let that man call in, bro.
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm tired of him.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's actually an action man effect.
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_02]: That effect.
1:10:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we
1:10:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we do this?
1:10:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's not even have a Dallas guess on them, bro.
1:10:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we just open up the platforms to some of our do this on Thursday?
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, Brad, I tried it.
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It's California.
1:10:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
1:10:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll do it.
1:10:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I say that because I asked on line, I was like, bro, should we do an open show?
1:10:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to do it tonight.
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I had one person respond back.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I mean, social media is one thing, but I want to make sure that we do this ahead of time.
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So people who want calling, calling, I'm like, Brad, like, all right, cool, let's do it.
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_03]: We talk about, we talk about our show right now.
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go ahead and acknowledge that we will be doing an open show Thursday to help with a guest, or if we even do a guest, we'll just do like the first 15 minutes of the show.
1:11:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we'll probably personally, but if you get one as fine, yeah, I'm about to say it.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll worry about that then.
1:11:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, that's that's it.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll call it there.
1:11:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Jay says he, I'm a, a brand new to this.
1:11:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure to do it, but it's any more, but I ain't I'm good.
1:11:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about me, where.
1:11:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, cool.
1:11:34
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll do open show Thursday.
1:11:37
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back then all 32 tomorrow.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_03]: AJ Jerry man.
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Drake.
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you did you try the Monday night miracle?
1:11:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's coming.
1:11:47
[SPEAKER_04]: How would you mean the drink?
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I saw it on the menu, but I didn't even try to stuff to my basics.
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, what's it?
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a bunch of shit.
1:11:56
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1:12:06
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's not a crack.
1:12:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're experiencing an November first.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a project.
1:12:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We all, we all have a good time.
1:12:15
[SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna take a shot this time late.
1:12:16
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're gonna take a shot and everything this time.
1:12:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, now we, we, I'm gonna, I'm gonna text y'all.
1:12:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna text y'all once we get off the show real quick.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_02]: See y'all thoughts on it.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, about, about, about somebody.
1:12:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It's silent.
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go, there's it.
1:12:36
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1:12:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They probably got to come off Thursday.
1:12:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you got to come off Thursday, bro.
1:13:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to come off Thursday.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And I agree with this.
1:13:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Like wait, the way AJ, the way AJ Smoghughuber and his, and his rate, bro, is insane.
1:13:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually try to get him counseling, but he's saying he'll need this.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Clock is in.
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we gonna bro, that's like an easy one to get so we about here, man.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.