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Deebo Samuel contract voids; exploring offseason WR options · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sir we're going back to another episode of Shabby die pie caged
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am, yo's a chop that pie case, oh it froze.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't tell me my camera died, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was going on, um, that's all crazy, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me actually, I'm gonna keep you in here, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got it, it's entertaining people, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's your, this your turn.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You been here for four years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't holding that yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm back in two seconds, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got to try and have a platform bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be right back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: got you, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just get that camera straight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any control panel on here, so I can't control who comes in or out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just gotta wait for more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's come back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I hope y'all don't know our right man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, commanders and much too going on right now, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: NFL combat waiting period after Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always hate this time period of the year because it's like right now NBA all-star weekend like NBA all-star weekend's past and then now you don't have any NBA games all you got as college basketball and his mom
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if y'all been watching all 32, y'all know I out of ran it through this issue a couple of times, but it's never happened live.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, now that y'all have seen it live, if your boy is frozen or just gone out of the blue, sometimes it's going, no more would maybe have more issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now what you might in and out, but the video is completely frozen, and Mike is in and out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, want to restart, reboot, do something, with something holding you back the neighbor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I could host this show all night by myself, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't want to get too deep in the things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a whole list of topics to talk about the night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to get too deep in it because I know the fellas we got a bunch of stuff to get into.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know if y'all are here to be right now to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to give more than a couple of minutes to get itself straight because like I said we got a whole thing to get into the whole preoff season period.
3:32
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got to get into a couple of things to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Devo, Sam, you're new, Brandon, now you're new, a bunch of things that we're going to get into.
3:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I know AJ got some stronger paintings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've, you know, we've been kind of wrapping.
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[SPEAKER_02]: AJ sent us that picture earlier of uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't understand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just seen tons of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I couldn't tell who the guy was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And AJ's like, that's I, you quit him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, five stone by the start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't even on X or Twitter yet, but I already know fans started going off about Brandon and I, you can the connections and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I know that's one of the things we don't get into tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how y'all feel about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing, you know, I know everybody can't have talked about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One, the Latin boy got arrested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You talking about when you got arrested a couple of weeks ago?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not again, please don't tell me you've got to rest it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that would be crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude is his, you know, you will crash out and he's getting a little too old to beat this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Getting arrested back to back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you talk about the, um, the arrest that he had a couple of weeks ago, J.B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, I haven't heard anything since, but I mean, as far as laughing or goes, you know, already a son, he wouldn't be back anyway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has played it in Warren it, then you talking about the injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was already injured when we got him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he got this recent injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He about, he is so, you know, what is he 30 now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he got to be a pro-chant 30, if he ain't 30 yet, but you don't know how I do like that will come back off the injury already, but stuck on my heels on the decline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was at the same lab work in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, you, I don't know what was going to walk regardless, it just sucks for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That he ended up getting arrested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, you back more, you good?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't hear you now, but you know, your camera now frozen, but I can't hear you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, I'm not here to go get them, but they're from where it came.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, because this one ain't the shoppers, the other joint.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, to go to the left side, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and a lot more, a lot more was what it was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was the TMZ release, the footage of a lot more again, the body can, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what's, that's what's trending right now is the actual footage of what actually went down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was he drunk?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he was trying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't watch you, but all I needed to know is he told the thing, he ain't no gunna call, they searched the gun, they searched the gun, they're taking the gun, they searched the, I ain't got no echo, too, by the way, I'm sure you know, they searched his uh, his uh, glove compartment, and boom, we got right there, so
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was after he said he didn't have the gun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say, or that you could say you managed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I clearly, you won't pose at all with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why he lied, but it's like, bro, if you think they got suspicion, they're going to search you shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you bet all tough on the truth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe lie about it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the situation given that you are a fucking NFL player.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I come on, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, well, never mind a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a part of this game clip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but you know, there's some other people on this team side of everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're just saying with y'all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm about to, because the way this is going over, like for streaming, I may just have to like transition to my laptop to finish like shrimp because both these, both these PC's are, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was 2020, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like I never don't remember how much long.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, hey, we're out.
10:14
[SPEAKER_03]: So look.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last time we talked, we had not too much traction in terms of like Washington news, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The presser was the most important topic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think,
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[SPEAKER_03]: even now, we don't have too much, but we do know about Debo Samu's contract situation as we gear up closer to like the starter for agency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know some moves around the league has picked the interests of Commander's fans and the beat guys who,
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[SPEAKER_03]: cover the team where they're asking questions about is someone so worth this worth the attention or anchor we for Washington.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Start with Debo Samuel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: his contract I avoided I think that means Washington is on the hook please help me double check this but I think Washington is on the hook for 12 and a half million this upcoming see yeah it's it's just a hit because when they did the trade essentially they will have no guarantee money
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Debo's agent and Adam Peters agreed to provide him a guarantee of what maybe like 19 million, I don't know off the top of my head, so in that case he still had like a void of void of here on this contract, so essentially he's a free agent, but you know like any free agent on any team right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that they play for, he can resign with them before Friagency opens back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same way, like Wassetson just resigned, Transway, just more so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some players want to see what the market is, with it being so close to Friagency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some guys are eager to resign depending on who they are in their position with the net organization.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, I think it makes more sense for Debo to wait until next week after the combat to evaluate where his marketplace is going to be, because even though it's not the legal temporary period, you learn a lot during the combat, especially when you have such a marquee agent who is a household name in the NFL, but on top of that, got a lot
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Debo, I say, it's 12.3 mil, a death cat for the commanders, and he actually got himself according to Spotrax, 18.2 million in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so they're looking at, it's all going to support track like a contract, uh, that's a round 16 million heading into free agency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually even, um, you mentioned like his options right, uh, but I think for,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Washington in both parties involved, um, overall, like, I don't know what this, what this is going to mean for for Debo, um, but I also feel like Washington clearly, I mean, for the, the day captain hit, they were comfortable letting that happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it was a one year deal, essentially, um, and heading into like when they converted all this money and guarantees for this year, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a perfect opportunity for Debo, just to even reevaluate what he wants, move forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't have, excuse me, Cliff, and here anymore, not to say that that was a huge reason for why he would.
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[SPEAKER_03]: wants to move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, like the idea of what Dibo was or could be for a variety of reasons just never never happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He produced
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[SPEAKER_03]: Defacto number one receiver for Washington because Terry just he was just it was an injury riddled year for him, but but when you look at like the situation that Debo has or the opportunity that Debo has in front of him, like I'm sure if you look at 20 E.S.
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[SPEAKER_03]: teams in the league, their got their got to be
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[SPEAKER_03]: like three that he's super intrigued about and think that he can really benefit with a much more stable situation around them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I say all that to say,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see what it's marked as like, and I wouldn't be surprised that Debo takes his time knowing that this is something where like this next contract, whether it's one year or two years is still going to be a pretty big decision for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think Debo is gonna have a decent market, maybe not so much of a, you know, a high demand market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think there's options out there, and one of those options for the man is Mike McDaniel, but the chargers, I mean, that's a place that he could probably go up there and throw out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He asks for your Laird team with Mike McDaniel, that's an option.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously coming back here will be an option.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I meant the point where
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I want Dibo back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Dibo was good, I mean, it was nothing against Dibo and what he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dibo was one of the more available I received is that we had all year last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we pretty much had their own decimate throughout the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Dibo believed her, I mean, and that's what happens with Dibo, and I think the older he gets, and this is why I'm pretty much kind of against him coming back here is that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's always gonna play with the style of play that Debo has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He only knows one speed, and that's the play hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Debo plays hard, and he only knows one speed in each year that body takes on more wear and tear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Debo has a type of game that kind of ages and dog years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he, you know, in a game like in play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, he's been doing this all this life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you just gotta think, and me, I keep coming back for Washington.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what they dealt with last year is a team and all of the injuries and the guys that weren't available this year, we're keeping in a buck, we're keeping it in a hundred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Washington, yes, they have holes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have issues on as a roster, you know, construction situation goes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But injuries was the number one thing that ruined this Washington season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like injuries was the number one thing that made this Washington season become.
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[SPEAKER_02]: always going to play injure in the old, if you get, I don't think he's going to be effective, as effective as he was when he was younger when he plays injure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that for me will be a reason why I would say I hope that you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: have been different for each other, watch it to go in different direction, debug goes in a different direction plus I mean me personnel wise, I'm looking more into more downfield guys like guys on a more downfield press than a people sandwich.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I mean, I'm not going to be upset or angry if they reset a debug if it's a team friendly contract or anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think those resources could be used elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, again, I mean, you're talking about him getting up at age and you're talking about a team by Washington, who can't afford to have another season like they'd be last year, where they were lying on guys to be healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Depot, I'm just not so sure that his health is going to kind of line up and be durable as he gets over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, in regards to Depot, I think if you are him,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in this next situation, you got to land heavily off familiarity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You touched on Mike McDaniel, now being the O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for the Chargers, Kyle Shanahan, and it's still the head coach for the 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the last place he's been, it's been Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's familiar with David Blows, familiar with Jayden Damels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's familiar with Adam Peters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that when Adam Peters made this trade,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't with one year in mind, it was for multiple years of getting that benefit of Debo Samuel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what they gave up a fifth, six round pick for Debo and what they got in return.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you compile like the injuries and everything, you got what a 700 plus yard receiver, uh, think you have five touchdowns, uh, receiving laws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And most of those were, you know, without Terry being the mix, uh, I think they're Washington, no, necessarily got a, they don't really have, they don't really have anything to like, hold on to when you talk about that while I receive a loan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they got to be active, whether it's with Debo or whoever,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that is of quality, um, and make call to Debo a day number two, but I go ahead and find.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but, but I think I think people can't look at it as like, if Debo was to be retained, can't look at him as Ben.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't look at him as Ben number two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just look at him as one of the three while receivers in a lot of the sets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I expect him to still go through wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, especially if they're playing,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we think that Blau is going to play off a Ben Johnson type of offensive scheme, you need kind of that player that can be that wreck guy, that's kind of how Detroit uses on Monday, same Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I'm all saying round hands are better than the better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, shift the year, I wouldn't give, I wouldn't give that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People says, yeah, he got, he got power, he got 50, he gets, that's how he gets open.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, that's what he gets busy, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, all in all, I see him as being someone that you could retain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's not going to probably hit you above the head, but that doesn't mean that you just stop acquiring, telling that that position, think that that offense needs as much as possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can bring back Debo at a favorable rate, and that's not saying, oh, he's coming back to be the number two, he's coming to be a fucking blame maker, like, that's, that's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something that you got to consider, because I mean, who, who else do you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How's that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Adam Peterson said something key in his last press with Dan Quinn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that familiarity is everything, and it's hard to give players three plus year contracts if he doesn't know them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have any like rapport with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has rapport with Debo Samuel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I made the trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he got a lot of the hang on to uh... with that so i mean it's just one of those things where i think that the boat will have to pick between washington saturday school and i think that he's at a point in his career we can go start a new with someone that he doesn't have to marry with with a play calling standpoint or even with the head coach or gm
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[SPEAKER_03]: there's going to be several shooters like even when you think about like a assistant coach that's spanned out to different teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she had even we missed in the charges.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Clifton went to the ramps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But why I go to LA?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying like, I mean, he can go to both LA teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, I think his options, I think we're under estimating like who can use him.
22:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think like moving on from just Debo in particular, I think Washington needs to take its time now to know like what they want out of their receiving court.
22:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they had an idea of what they wanted last year.
22:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I think in theory it may have worked if everybody was fully healthy.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Also this is the opportunity to just sit here and say yo like
22:51
[SPEAKER_03]: We need somebody who can push down the field and and be just as exposed to it.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm more exposed than to it.
23:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think about, right, like, and I make it kill for this.
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm okay.
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay with that.
23:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I start to think about.
23:11
[SPEAKER_03]: just like I always can find an option and in free agency me personally I'm saying and I'm not sitting here saying that option is like a number two like for example I love the keys I knew he won the number two right saw the number four guy you use him right he can step up being I like that move um I don't
23:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had to go find this again, but I don't necessarily sit here and say like that number two or one B is out there and for agency it may be some surprise because here and there like we even know like I think Michael Petton is going to be around not saying Washington, he's the perfect for Washington, but more so like people will find him very valuable for their office.
23:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's going to be some moves out there.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no.
23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Brad, I want to be so mad or surprised, if YReceiver was a legitimate option for Washington and for their first pick.
24:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And I say first pick because I don't know if they do make that move, I don't know if there'll be at seven when they make it.
24:12
[SPEAKER_03]: But when we had that conversation as they would have taught, taught me to say, he even highlighted the essential positions like critical positions for both sides of the board, right?
24:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And YReceiver was one of those, one of those positions that he named.
24:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sitting here thinking, bro, if there was a time to reevaluate the structure of your receiving court and what you needed, like, if you want to go young.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: because Debo's push it 30.
24:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I know there's conversations about you, we can have that now, that's fine.
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I use not 30, he's under 30, but if you went that 24, 23 year-old receiver who is a dog and you can work well for at least four years, maybe five of the things do work out to the best that they'd hope with that extension or that one year option.
25:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I'm looking at the first round, I'm like, yo, I like these guys more than I like these other options and maybe I can look at
25:20
[SPEAKER_03]: age or linebacker in different areas such as free agency like we're going to talk about the the the top free agent needs ESPN made a thing and quit walker was on the list.
25:32
[SPEAKER_03]: If Washington landed quit walker, then that's one less need for your for your for your for your front seven.
25:38
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's what I mean, I think while receiver the more I look about look at look at this and they don't if they want to restructure that receiver group or receiving core and make up what it looks like.
25:48
[SPEAKER_03]: That was from a big, may have a higher percentage so it's a lack of a wide receiver name.
25:53
[SPEAKER_03]: That was probably a shame.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think everything's on the table one, too.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And we see what they doing for the agency because the reality is, no matter what David Ball said, force feeding, you know, Terry McClellan with 10 targets.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Terry McClellan's last year as a Washington commander.
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So for those that love him, they better get ready.
26:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He is not playing into,
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: another additional year in 2027 of that contract.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, you got to, you got to start to look at that room, because I don't know how comfortable they are with, you know, laying in the calfry, then you also still got a recent births of that somebody that you do want to break back, but,
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can't foresee Lane and McAfrican cut this all season, but yeah, you definitely need to get younger at that position group, because I mean Terry and Debo at the same age, and once you possibly move on from Terry who is on the contract, what else do you have there?
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But the amazing thing is,
27:01
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some time to waver severs in this draft.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I personally don't like any in the top 10.
27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But even next year, next year, you got a plethora of waver severs.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you really got the better hand a waver severs coming in next year from Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, from Alabama, some people got their views on him.
27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they definitely don't have to get a waver seaver,
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: this year and the first or even the third round or even next year.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They just got holes, but that's the main part.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They got holes everywhere and like that's a really big issue.
27:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Then that's what AJ and that's the problem.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they have so many holes and so many things that fix and me specifically.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so focused on the defense because the NFL playoffs I watched this past year.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't have anything close to what those things are putting out there defensively, you're not going to say a chance in NFL.
28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: All those things like pretty much everything you watch had a defense that you would envy as a watch to fans.
28:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And not even just I want to get close to that
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: because I want to be a top 15, top 16 somewhere near that deep.
28:17
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, those defense were like top 5, top 10 caliber defense.
28:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of those defense is almost going to carry the team, so I'm glad China is super bold by themselves.
28:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we see how the Patriots defense carry them, go out the playoffs, the Houston, Texas defense.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Rams have a hell of a defense.
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all those team, dimmer Broncos, all those teams defensively
28:37
[SPEAKER_02]: making envy, what watch it's in has, and the issue is you just don't have enough power, especially when you're talking about the draft.
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have to spend more money probably to add on heat as well as to spend free agency wise, but the draft just leaves you so limited.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why like when I'm looking at that first round pick, I'm more so for me, I'm not going to laugh.
28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm biased.
28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking more so at the defensive side of the football.
29:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you need help everywhere, but I'm looking at the kind of get a defensive cornerstone or a defensive
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: centerpiece, something that you can build around when you talk about the NFL draft.
29:11
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, you absolutely need help on the library see in that library see room.
29:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And more years than that, I'm saying yes, you know, everything's on the table in this first round, like library see or run it back whatever just adds talent.
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But I still feel like Washington's just in a situation right now, which
29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But free agency wise, you have to look there.
29:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Washington has to act at his group.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get younger.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get faster I think what they built for the club Kingsbury office specifically was guys that can kind of win in the short field the short area Roots, you know, when you think about the people type of guys and you had to own the Zacchaeus type of guys
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: guys to win in those little short areas.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the free agency this year, maybe do I want to run something different?
29:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we are doing the Ben Johnson thing or we're looking a little bit more downfield or running more books or running more play-actions.
30:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I'm just looking to see if they can add more speed that the virus he was by the, you know, I need a guy to take a take the top off the deepest.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have to be the Shawn Jackson.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Not many people are the Shawn Jackson, but just some one who could threaten this deep one.
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: defences down field kind of like the Terry can like not just Terry, but you need so it also on the other side that can do that.
30:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone from all over the field.
30:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I mean, the Jaila Lane, he has to show him catch the ball consistently.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can rely on him.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, either way, yes, you do have to add to what you have and ever see the room.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I just worry that Washington doesn't have another resources outside of spending cat money to do so to get more.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think the draft is going to be very interesting because I think Washington could be a player to trade back or even move back up into the draft depending on how fast, whether that be late first or second round.
31:00
[SPEAKER_00]: This mentality of why receivers is not really getting the press, but I mean, outside of the names of the Jordan Tyson's, Le Men, or a tape, I mean, you got Casey
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: guys that could ride a branch who was at Georgia, but formerly at USC, but you got some, you got some players, you got Boston from Washington, if that tickles your fancy in any sort, but yeah, they want to be, that's always going to be, that's the thing too, like we think
31:40
[SPEAKER_03]: right like where you think about the the high end guys and you think about those only people that you think about and like you going through that list like just soon three of those guys gonna pop three of them gonna pop I don't know who they're gonna be but three of them gonna pop for sure and you think about that like that's it's always the case for
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see it in the second stage.
32:11
[SPEAKER_03]: The organ titan would also be amazing to get.
32:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you want to board, that's something to look at.
32:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Part of the, not in seven of them say not this boy with the, which not like the, the ESPN.
32:30
[SPEAKER_03]: projections or predictions for a free agency.
32:34
[SPEAKER_03]: They also have Isaiah likely being a commander this year to which for a lot of people would, you know, make a lot of sense.
32:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And also be something that people are our super interested in.
32:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Renla, you know.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: which we're gonna keep talking with the, you know, what's the name?
32:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Why, we're worried about that one to get there.
32:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But there was an interview that came out within the past we made Nate Tyson from Yahoo.
33:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was going, you know, let's do your thing on the side.
33:07
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna work to try and get him on.
33:11
[SPEAKER_03]: But you had a conversation with Jade and then, you know, that kind of sparse of answers about like a former Arizona State teammate, people alluded.
33:20
[SPEAKER_03]: that people alluded to Brandon Ayuk, some made fun of that and said, yeah, we talking about, they talking about what's to do from Tampa, for a shot, white, so you know, there's options or there's considerations of different people were Jayden, you know, had that sparkle when he was at about a former teammate.
33:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, Ayuk, it's convenient, watching the news receivers,
33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: oversever at least, and IU gives a conversation where like a lot of people I see over the last month of some change, and very interested in IU.
33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're interested in getting him like that cheap deal.
34:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's also some, where I kind of lean towards personally, where it's like,
34:07
[SPEAKER_03]: is even worth it.
34:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And another like hindrance or concern is like, is it worth it, but also like, if this was to happen, how content will Peter get after he makes or after he lands and I
34:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I got my, that was one of Peter's.
34:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, there's been real.
34:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, are you, are you chasing, are you being aggressive, reasonably aggressive, or are like, are you just looking for your comfort areas, just so you can say that this position is a strength, but you don't necessarily know about where this person is at in its current state, 2026, by the way, bro.
34:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think Peter's already kind of told us,
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard for him to give contracts to guys enough and other with one or three years.
35:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a bit about saying, but you know that, you know that that's a week for it.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I can only take it for what he says.
35:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at the end of the day, it just so happened that they got holes in places where he has familiarity with people that could be available.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that, that's just the hardcore truth.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take even the first year under Peters and Quinn, bringing in the Tyler Beat of Beatists through years.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they have familiarity with him because Dan Quinn being in Dallas.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with Doris Armstrong, bring him in.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the only guy that didn't really have ties was Frankie Louvre.
35:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But most of the guys that they brought in, they've had some type of relationship with from a free agency standpoint.
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't necessarily speak for every trade, mate.
35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But even the trade for Debo.
36:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's going to lean heavily on that.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I feel like we all know that inevitable with this brand and our youth thing.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless he does something crucial.
36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just think, unless he does something crucial
36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: wish you you hope doesn't happen for all purposes.
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he's going to be here.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when your quarterback is also in favor of bringing in someone that this is best friend, and that also has that talent.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they almost made a trade for IU just
36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Terry McCormn was going to have to be a part of it, and they didn't want to mess up the locker room.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just think that it's inevitable with that, but still Adam Peter should be aggressive and free agency and see Wells' out there now, like, the things that I'm breathing online and suggestions from fans and different pundits, and I'm not a big Alec Pierce fan.
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really care for Romeo Dobbs that much.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: The benefit of heading for agency is to get overpaid in a sense.
37:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to overpay on the Alec Pears?
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to pay overpay for Romeo Dobbs?
37:16
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to have more to do again.
37:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I think it's on my bed.
37:21
[SPEAKER_03]: It's criminal bed.
37:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I take a chance on Alec before I take a chance on Bebo in, but I mean, yeah, I mean, I would it.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would love to hear why you would take that risk on Alec Pierce more so than Bebo and I, you, as a combination or even, let's just say, I, you versus Pierce individually, um,
37:45
[SPEAKER_03]: One, I mean, Dibo, let's move Dibo out of it.
37:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause we are, let's do I, you can, in pairs.
37:54
[SPEAKER_03]: But what I'm, what I'm getting at is like, I would take pairs over each individual.
37:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So like over each, over Samuel, by himself, or are you by himself?
38:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, we don't have to reage Dibo, like we know what Dibo brings to the table.
38:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But again, different element from Alec Pierce, right?
38:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's an explosive player, he has good hands and traffic.
38:14
[SPEAKER_03]: He has a consistent, a consistent catch guy.
38:17
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's also fast off the line of scrimmage.
38:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, is it depends on how a Washington uses him?
38:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to get into that since I don't even know what his situation is.
38:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And Andy, again, I think he's about to get tagged.
38:28
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the reason why Michael Pittman is out there.
38:31
[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of his name, like, it may be something that this is a,
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, not them burger because they're going to move forward with Alan Pierce and let Michael fit me move on, uh, or move to free agency, um, it turns out you, uh, you guys like, uh,
38:49
[SPEAKER_03]: People mind me like Jordan Reed in the sense that he gets busy at the line.
38:53
[SPEAKER_03]: He knows how to dance and like he's a hooper in the sense like he reminds me of a person who has good basketball moves, right?
39:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So you can win with that in that first and second level.
39:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's anything wrong with that.
39:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But I got to worry about no goddamn character concerns when it comes to out of pairs.
39:14
[SPEAKER_03]: So why the hell not why why would I take the chance on you if Pierce brings an element that we let but he's also somebody who has no problems like he doesn't have an attitude problem and he doesn't look to do these fucking distracting that social media posts and I'm not going to bat on on the entry is not his fault like that's just a bad luck thing so to help with that goal.
39:41
[SPEAKER_03]: where I like, I'll rather go ahead and take my change for him.
39:46
[SPEAKER_03]: A person who, what, I think they're comparably speaking like this around his aim age too.
39:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, I'm taking my, let me go ahead and write going ahead.
39:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Good thing, bro.
39:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Come some of y'all, boss, man.
40:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Top off for the fans, bro.
40:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And more, I mean, when I'm thinking about just how brand-new you think,
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And that would be for me to Larry T to Jayden names because they were teammates at Arizona State, just like how youth was.
40:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But my issue, and I'm an Adam Peters defender to this point, because I just feel like, you know, GM's mostly taken about a good three years before you start to know which way you lean in as far as holiday or constructing the roster or how they're putting together in team.
40:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So as of now, we
40:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Adam Peters has one more grace period year for me, but I would be a little bit worried about the aches, I mentioned this a couple of times in some of the states in that Adam Peters wins more to the familiarity side, which is cool when you're talking about year one and maybe even year two.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm going to go with guys I knew with these places that been at.
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're in year three, you're still kind of leaning on, I'm still only comfortable giving or giving opportunities or signing certain guys that I know and that I scouted, you know, when I was at the 40s, that's the issue for me.
41:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and right now, you come to a risk.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't come with, you know, this guaranteed reward or this, this guy at it,
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: You know is going to play at this certain level and I say that because he's coming off a significant injury, and we didn't see him at all actually, but we didn't see bread and how you play it all at a year.
41:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know how he's going to return from injury and I'm just wondering this can Washington afford to take that risk on a bread and I you.
41:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say this, you don't trade for it, you know, if you met him a little bit all, it's going to be a, he's released from San Francisco and it's kind of a, approve of it.
41:52
[SPEAKER_02]: They're almost, they're almost in the country.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're almost in the country.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't even take the depot contract, honestly, like in what depot played on that, you know, one year deal with your not own a look for a couple of years called, I'll take that.
42:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But at this point in time, can you really can watch it to take that risk?
42:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I got like Brandon, I mean, I mean, I mean, you, you, we, we, we got to say and think about it, right?
42:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, with I, you two, this is being made of, like, character issues, like, the man got paid $30,000, and in two seasons, right?
42:24
[SPEAKER_03]: can't chat doing the same thing.
42:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.
42:26
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he got paid $39 million in.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's finding a way out of his situation.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Then voting his contract is his way out.
42:34
[SPEAKER_00]: That he ultimately didn't want to be there, but he could get the new money.
42:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, that was his first time in a second paycheck from the NFL.
42:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knows him better than the people that are already in the building.
42:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're not saying Jayden Dan's is one of his homies.
42:53
[SPEAKER_00]: This is best friend.
42:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I, you, and Adam Peters, are closest hell.
42:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you told, told Peters about Jane and Danes?
43:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You feel me?
43:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, it's two of the most close net, probably NFL relationships he has.
43:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And even outside of the NFL that he's leaning on, which is why he wants to be there.
43:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why you had the interview situation with, you know, Nate Tyson's kind of looting to, I, you can even jade and feel comfortable saying that.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: That's his best friend.
43:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you wouldn't be signing him to know Mark, you'd be signing him to approve it there with incentives.
43:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what he, I haven't seen him run.
43:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You feel me?
43:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen him.
43:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Do any drills or whatever, but I think it's worth the risk if you could bring in a trail on birx or whatever And other teams like brought in why receivers coming off of injuries Odo Beckham, Jr. for example coming to the Baltimore Ravens.
43:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he signed a deal that was like one for 14 and Maybe he could have got up to like 18 million.
44:00
[SPEAKER_00]: This was incentive ridden
44:03
[SPEAKER_00]: or whatever, like that's one thing, like we talk about a guy who's not, we even mentioned the other person who got released yesterday, Tariq Hill.
44:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Not talking about somebody that beat their kids, beat their girl, or any of that.
44:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know fans want Tariq Hill.
44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: It's guy damn, I told you all brown, bro.
44:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you said what Antonio Brown and you got traded to to the greatest, but that's almost out to see.
44:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's that's almost bread to do when it out, but it's only a Brown never wanted to go to the greatest.
44:37
[SPEAKER_03]: He just wanted to get out of Pittsburgh and you said here, I'm telling me people, people sit here and and and look at this situation and and you think that GMs or even out
44:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you did a hell of a job.
44:55
[SPEAKER_03]: You had nine of that crunch.
44:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so proud of you.
44:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand where you came from, but this was a tough time for you.
45:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know what you was going through over there.
45:03
[SPEAKER_03]: When they page that 39 million for it.
45:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know you're not going to do that for me.
45:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're not going to do that to me, bro.
45:09
[SPEAKER_03]: When you get upset and you get up about things, it's not going right for you, bro.
45:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And Washington, I know you're not going to do that to me.
45:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're just going to do that in San Francisco.
45:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I had no fear whatsoever.
45:19
[SPEAKER_03]: that you're going to turn against me in any safe form of fashion.
45:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're not going to delete me off your Instagram.
45:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're not going to block me.
45:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're not going to go riding your grand share here, whatever the fuck it was, your fast carburet and go getting speed and tickets, all that stuff.
45:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're not going to do that, bro.
45:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it only happened in San Francisco.
45:39
[SPEAKER_00]: the the situation between AB and Raiders and I you guys are night and day.
45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think all all AB had to do with show up for one day and get 31 million like I mean it's two different is completely two different individuals.
45:56
[SPEAKER_00]: situations, all that, but I mean at the end of the day, we don't, we don't control anything, but I feel like if someone already has told you publicly when they met with the press that they lean heavily on their familiarity and you got a guy, it's not like he's leaning on, we're not talking about a bum ass player and I, you, you know, yeah, he's injured, but I even said to see y'all today and texts like today's medicine is completely different than
46:22
[SPEAKER_00]: How it used to be unless you just unlazy ask my fucker as an athlete you're gonna bounce back from your injury You film me like more than likely because you have so many different resources and tools that are being utilized to help you rehab So it's just like why wouldn't Adam Peters is lean on that relationship and that rapport and this quarterback got the like the quarterback They probably already threw together.
46:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know we we have no clue on no way videos
46:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He has a better understanding that anybody else could in the NFL ranks of this player because he knows him personally and the quarterback is his best friend So he's throwing the ball to him all these different nuances.
47:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that Mall you got to get prepared that I you can's gonna be a washer and command you
47:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can't, it ain't nothing I can do about it, but I don't know how I feel.
47:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I, I know if I was, and I got compared to Antonio Bound, where I want to slap the shit out of everybody that even said that, it's a whole different human being.
47:26
[SPEAKER_03]: And you that, you that right here, there for human being, that the same time, the overall the overarching theme, where the premise was that neither one of these niggas won the play for the team, the date that they got assigned to.
47:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you excited to contract A, B one out of Pittsburgh, he got what he, he got what he theoretically wanted and and I keep thinking the biggest and Oakland at the time and still didn't want fucking play for him.
47:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So like he sabotaged that shit and what do you think happening in San Francisco he sabotaged that shit like it's still sabotaged no matter if it's very and that was a degree of sabotage cool I agree with it.
48:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It's still a sabotage.
48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: No, one is the sabotage of one is being strategic.
48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that's really what it is.
48:17
[SPEAKER_00]: When is the full out like, I'm, I'm with they, would they say crash out?
48:23
[SPEAKER_00]: When is the full crash out and when is being strategic?
48:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Or how am I exit out of this, out of this team is still collecting money?
48:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And 90% of them, ladies and gentlemen, you muted too, Drey, so that's why I'm talking.
48:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But 90% of them, ladies and gentlemen, those front office is saying, I plucked that nigga brand in brass with saying that.
48:41
[SPEAKER_02]: He's my killer point.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't know.
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: necessarily share most of the character, you know, concerns as far as when you talk about an AB, I mean those are different characters, but Brandon and I you didn't have to sign that extension last year.
48:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought it was crazy, but they did sign the extension last year.
49:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, okay, he signed the extension.
49:02
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to go out there.
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be the man for the 49ers.
49:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And the turns out he says that extension with the 49ers.
49:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And now Joanne
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: out there.
49:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I go back to the injuries.
49:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is my biggest concern with a brand and I, when I talk about the injuries and I only say that because, yes, AJ, we do have modern science and we do have, you know, different techniques in order, in rehab.
49:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Which brand and I, strategically, as you call it, miss those rehab sessions with the 49est last year,
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just worry about is he the same player.
49:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm talking as a jay the commander fan.
49:45
[SPEAKER_02]: A jay the commander fan has been so lemons in the past.
49:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just got so to lemon.
49:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And a march on by the mourn of sins.
49:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just worry, if it's a lemon at this point, John Lynch came flat out of his mouth for the 49ers of sin.
50:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, you can play this last snap of 49, which means they're most likely either going to release him or they're going to trade him.
50:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It is one or the other.
50:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not playing for the 49 is any more.
50:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And you feel like if they felt like at some point, this is just me, this got the system, the commander fans got the, this got this system.
50:18
[SPEAKER_02]: If they felt like this guy will still just talk to your talent, they wouldn't be so eager to just move on from it.
50:23
[SPEAKER_02]: because they did just one year ago give the guy a contract distinction.
50:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's as my worry when it comes to a brand new idea because more so what does he look like football class?
50:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Like because if you can guarantee me that brand and now you can be the same player that he was pre-engineering
50:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'll take that deal every day of the week because he's a more complete player than anybody in the Whiteford City Class of free ages that we're talking about.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a more complete player than the Allen Pierce right now.
50:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just for me, I'm so jaded and worried about getting a living.
50:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Jay, who would know that best?
50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: his best friend, the quarterback that you're a Jaden Daniels fan of, right?
51:02
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because the 49ers, the 49ers don't know because in order for me to crash out in a way or strategically playing my exit, I needed to not be present and I still get my $39 million.
51:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I lost out on what is worth it.
51:20
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a clue on my true rehab.
51:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know how I'm running routes.
51:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do anything with them.
51:26
[SPEAKER_00]: The only person, the only couple people that know, maybe my girl, myself, the trainers who's helping him with his rehab and close friends, Jayden Dames.
51:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I mean, it's not like he posts and videos that him working out, like he can easily do that, but
51:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It would just look even more wild if you if you posted videos and working out and then didn't play for the 49ers and this case He's a couple weeks away from bed of washing the command That's ultimately what he want and he had to sign the contract in order to guarantee himself some money I'm worried about the optics though AJ and this is optics from both ends and Again if he's brand now you be brand now you can we've seen him playing in a field
52:12
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine, but we don't know that as of right now, but the optics right now and our J&A is just kind of running, gets him as a GM, and Adipetus is only going with guys that he's familiar with.
52:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And you already don't care much for Adipetus, AJ.
52:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, does the optics make Adipetus look bad in this situation?
52:29
[SPEAKER_03]: No, because it's like, it's like destroys damage or obstructs.
52:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You read a definition, and everybody got time for this.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: This going on here, asking us the words, I can give it or this drop something.
52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I get where you come from, but it's just different.
52:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I hear what you're saying, Dre, but it's like, I also just got to think about if this guy was Aaron Rogers and trying to bring in Allen's a lizard and Randall Cobb,
53:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's completely different situation.
53:06
[SPEAKER_00]: He got those guys paid, especially out in the Zard.
53:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about Jayden Dangles.
53:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, everything they're doing is building around him.
53:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, David Blowman hired as the fucking OC, like, come on, bro, familiarity.
53:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, that was familiarity that made that higher.
53:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That was not old from an excellent old standpoint, sort of say, like, yeah, it could have played a part in it, but it was familiarity.
53:30
[SPEAKER_00]: This person has already been a voice within this organization already has ever poured with our quarterback.
53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's continue to build on that with more players.
53:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It even goes back to how Terry McCormn became number one here in Washington.
53:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Dwayne Haskins, who was drafted with, 15th overall, he had familiarity with Terry McCormn at Ohio State, which led to Washington drafting Terry McCormn in third round.
53:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it two different things don't forgive the time and chase it or I'll show about Terry because yeah, that's actually a good point But I was I mean we had we had time to say on him when Terry McLean got drafted Yeah, what he's saying
54:16
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... uh... at the product at the prodo but the person that stood on the table for him was dwayne has come to rest and she the way they need to have a table of
54:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly, if I want to be real bad, if I want to be real right now, and we need to, you know, we're going to have to worry about the rest of the players for another episode, because we just talked too long about this y'all.
54:43
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you want to be real, bro, I ain't, bro, Jay didn't ain't got no fucking to say so.
54:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And this shit either, bro, right?
54:49
[SPEAKER_03]: His, his, his, his, his, his fucking power is limited to, to however Adam Peters want to involve him.
54:55
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure that's not it at a big percentage, bro.
54:58
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's inclusive, make sure that Jayden has or ability that he has to speak or something, right, it's limited, right?
55:06
[SPEAKER_03]: If he ain't got any motherfucking dictate how to move it free agency?
55:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't, you don't think that's, I'm I'm saying from an office at standpoint at like why receiver in particular.
55:16
[SPEAKER_00]: He don't have no ground to speak on hey, this is who I would like it.
55:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I literally just said it's limited.
55:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I said the amount of influence that he'll have.
55:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it should be limited to wide receivers.
55:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be limited.
55:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Wide receivers.
55:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Jayden, Jayden, Jayden should have come to me and tell me if I should get in.
55:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in.
55:35
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a player.
55:36
[SPEAKER_03]: If they ask, if they have my friend or you go, okay, cool.
55:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Outside of that, who the fuck cares with Jayden things, if you get a dog in the head, where you work with them?
55:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm proud.
55:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the GM has to be able to put together a team without the land or who was quarterback to wait in the back.
55:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I understand that.
55:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have, when you have a guy like Jayden in the building, and you also have familiarity with guys that could be available says I you Brian Thomas Jr. You should lean on your quarterback for his, for his analysis on that.
56:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Now if you're asking Jayden Daniels, who should you get at defensive end?
56:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And linebacker now, yeah, that's the fucking issue.
56:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we talking about why receivers, yes, we should be asking Jaden Danes who you want to have why receiver are tight in.
56:23
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you name two theoretical situations, right, you name Ron Thomas Jr. and you name Brandon Are you?
56:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I would think that's fair.
56:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
56:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, yeah, it's more important.
56:33
[SPEAKER_03]: But into that to my point, that's literally why I say it, it's limited, where I like, even to my one or two people coming in here, Brandon, you got an idea of something like that.
56:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, first of their relationships is probably already publicly, you know, so then again, he don't have to go to either you don't have to go to fucking Satan and impetus this for either one of those to but if he did go to somebody by receivers and it was those to him, particularly it would be him outside of that who the fuck cares right.
57:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, folks on your rehab, you need to focus on getting better.
57:13
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to work on, uh, uh, building that relationship with David Blow, the new office of coordinator and whatever he wants and his offense, like, don't worry about what I'm doing on my side, I'll ask you a question.
57:26
[SPEAKER_03]: If I need to ask you a question, and I think that's, I think that's super limited, right?
57:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll, that's it.
57:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think it's come down to the player, like, specific players as you name, I agree with it.
57:35
[SPEAKER_03]: But tight ends.
57:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Receivers like all-fensive lunch running back.
57:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to ask us about Kenneth Walker and we didn't fucking talk 30 minutes about are you Fuck all you got damn Jay Tissie in the chat putting this cable in for the past 25 minutes, bro All right, you know about Like a white man, bro, cuz I don't cuz I don't agree with bringing out you can just don't I'm sick of this shit, right I'm sick of everything
58:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of kind of walk her in no brainer.
58:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm cool.
58:10
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about them before.
58:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I was not as I was actually there on.
58:14
[SPEAKER_03]: On kind of like, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't.
58:16
[SPEAKER_03]: When I saw him in that playoff, that playoff shirt's brand.
58:18
[SPEAKER_03]: It started, it started to start that second game.
58:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in San Francisco.
58:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, yo, my baby, brother.
58:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think Seattle was wrong about him too.
58:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why Sharberna was getting a lot of carries until you got heard.
58:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they were just ready to pivot off of him, but I mean, Kenneth Walker came into the league explosive and then it kind of like died down a little bit.
58:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was injuries or what, but you know, I think Kenneth Walker is a baller like,
58:51
[SPEAKER_00]: but I think that this is also a great time to add a run-and-back of their available trap.
58:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You got ETN, you got Breeze Hall, like you got some other guys that could get cut.
59:01
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
59:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going into the season with one run-and-back under the contract, which is Bill.
59:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only player.
59:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only run-and-back under contract, because I think Nick was the president, Rodriguez's, eccles, so yeah.
59:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Not for you.
59:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And you got a lot to say in today's NFL, you don't necessarily need a work course run in back.
59:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think you can do to run it back and back committee, especially if you have a quarterback that you know can do it in which we know Jayden knows can go out there and do it.
59:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But kind of walk out, watch that guy since he was at Michigan State for the Michigan State.
59:40
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a piece.
59:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, man, who's this dude?
59:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a hell of a player.
59:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But see
59:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to add running back in this free agency class because I don't want to draft one.
59:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of fans keep talking about Jeremiah.
59:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I love, but I don't think there'd be a waste of resources when you don't have the luxury of a lot of resources to add to this team.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not in the position where we're like the Los Angeles Rams or where the Eagles, where we can just draft any position, any around we want to draft and just plug those guys in a play or just let them develop or whatever.
1:00:15
[SPEAKER_02]: No, watch it, it needs immediate help right now.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_02]: but to with step forward Washington team.
1:00:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I said I would love to add what are those backs for in free agency, a breeze haul on an ETN, or even a kid walker.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And even if you add a kid walker, you're still talking about what else you're going to have with them.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Bill's still going to be a major part of this office.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's some kind of way.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'd be your her course or
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, the little carry it back, but he's going to be here.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think C-Rot's going to come back.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you're going to have guys that's going to be here to run at least a ad.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I say just add something to the run-and-back room.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you need to, you know, use a first-round pick on a run-and-back when this team has so many needs.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I'm biased.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I want the deepest of God.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I want the deepest of cornerstone.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to start building this deep in stuff.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, absolutely go out to one of those guys to free HCS far or so.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, if I was a GM, my philosophy, even if I had a running bag, I'd draft one every year.
1:01:12
[SPEAKER_00]: In the first ever year?
1:01:13
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not first round.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_00]: In some part of the draft, I'm gonna get a running bag like, and you look at this class.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Emma Johnson out in Nebraska.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of other running bags.
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just what tickles your fans to.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You film me like love.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look at love like a Jamiria Gibbs or B. John Robison.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's,
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my personal opinion, but of course we had Tom McShade, he compared Jeremiah love to be John Robison.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it that way.
1:01:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I championed heavy Virginia Mary Gibbs on here on Trappe Dive, probably too much, you would have thought that I had something to do with his success, but yeah, at the end of the day, I just think that Washington, like he said, Drake, ultimately, they got to go defense.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_00]: they got to go defense.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Some way, somehow, somebody got to be taken from from that cornerback defense attack, or DN, you know what I said, comment right there.
1:02:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You see that kind of love is better than Gibbs coming up.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you know like that.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, whoever they are, they stupid as hell.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So, God bless them.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And just my last thing, but.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we use mentioned, the running back story, but it's two things I think is a failure, having an injury for Washington.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_03]: There's so many, so much talent at both running back and tight end in free agency, that if you can't come away with one,
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_03]: No one that you got, I want it back on your roster, right?
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And you need receiving help at tight end.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't come away with one willing to this situation.
1:02:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Unless you have like your eye on one particular guy or two particular guys in the drive, right?
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you lose.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are some critical positions offensively that it's like a gold mine in free agency veterans.
1:03:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you can't come away with any of those guys, you know, which is why I hope they get likely.
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can't come away with telling that, pick seven, then you lost overall because there's players.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_00]: True, true.
1:03:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's all.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was just, I was just speaking to the, there's a plethora of running backs
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a plethora of tight ends and free agency and the draft as well.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, hey man, you gotta get some, take a couple, take a couple of picks at the samples that's being given out like U.S. Costco like don't just grab one, like grab a few, you film me because there's players, there's talent in places that you need.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So be a superstar.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, appreciate everybody watching.
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, hit that like button that subscribe button.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I ordered all the chat, man, appreciate all of that.
1:03:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And appreciate your patience early on in the show when I was bucking up.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And we even know it's not my fault.
1:04:04
[SPEAKER_03]: But I got to figure that out.
1:04:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, that is my problem.
1:04:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we worry about that bridge when we get here.
1:04:09
[SPEAKER_03]: When we get there, interviews, we're working on them.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried it.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it'd be all.
1:04:17
[SPEAKER_03]: But you already mentioned Nate Tyson.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll try to get him on some.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully we can get that done and have a conversation.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got some other people and I've been talking to them so, first that bridge and we'll get there.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_03]: All of 32 is on this week, tomorrow.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take it easy to be safe while I take a step and we'll be about it.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Huh, watchin' throw the ball, we gon' pick it up You gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up You gon' play the phone for the longer, you gon' put it up You're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in Don't be lookin' for the ref, don't don't fly again Keep the hell me know, keep the police tight You the type to wonder when, by any means, right?
1:04:52
[SPEAKER_06]: You should look alive, this is tryna die