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Jayden out vs. Giants; Commanders-Giants Game Preview · Trap or Dive

• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll see you soon.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying, huh, watchin' throw the ball, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' plug them from the long, you gon' put it up, you're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in, don't be lookin' for the rest, you don't don't flag them, keep the hammer in on, keep the police tight, you the type you wanna win by any means, right, you should look alive, this is trippin' down.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has served, we're going back to another episode of Chapter 5 podcast.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am your host of Chapter 5, I cast Molly Mowl, Drake and AJ is in here in the building, the virtual building, Jay Tizzy, Monty Benz, what's up?
• 1:07
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• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: That.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm administrative item.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: My bad.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a son of a, um, coming on commander reporter for the Washington Post.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be joining us.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Actually at the top of the show.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So in a few minutes, we'll be talking to the son of a, uh, the Washington Post.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk to him about.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shit.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's going on in that experiment.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good, bro.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Chillin' ready for the weekend, you know what I'm sayin'?
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he like, we got a football team in the pool with you, but, you know, we're here.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: going good, bruh, you know, um, appreciate you asking, you know, I'm over here thinking of ways personally.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been thinking about ways to how to, uh, I ain't been feeling right like, uh, functionally my body, so I'm trying to figure out how to get back on track with things.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm about to start at the top of the, at the top of the next week, I'm about to start at Clens.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've done it before.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: a juice cleanse.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a three-day thing, but I haven't done it with the person that I'm going to run it with now.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I usually do my trainer, but I'm going to go through another company and I'm going to try to do a three-day cleanser to reset my body, man, and see if that can help me get, like reset and get back on track with things, but you know, those things actually helped me with my mind too.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm actually looking forward to that.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we want to see how that goes.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I knew I meant to sing y'all something last week, um, I was watching something on YouTube and then it got into Alfred Street back to church.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Have y'all heard of that church in Alexandria?
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I heard of no church.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, so it's a, it's a black church or whatever it led by black pastor and they're having, I want to say they're having like a 45 day cleanse or we're fasting like
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't you can't use the phone.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't watch the football time on like okay.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like it's it's it's intense But somebody send it to me.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, man.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't I can't do that, bro Like just just act like like don't exist like I can't do it.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do it I can't
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought of it because it was like, you know, this cleanse like typically helps you realign.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I was just thinking like, yeah, it may be a cleanse would be good.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: You film me.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because sometimes you just got to realign.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, shocker is your energy and all that.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: but when I say 45 days, I was like, I think that joint went into almost Super Bowl.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was like, oh, nah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like four, I mean, three days cool, like an even with the juices that they're going to give like this company they do five juices a day I did three with my trainer so like I can extend the cleanse beyond three days and just stick to like I could do like five days if I needed to look at my juices that they give me so I think like it's interesting, but I think at the very least if you think about a cleanse where I think you should do like a physical one not worry about like the.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: the one that the church that you're talking about, the Baptist church that you're talking about, like you should think about like the juice cleanse.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it helps you.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard, if you never done it, but I ain't gonna lie to you, but that's hard to shit.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the worst date, the worst day is the last day too, because it's like, bro, you all you think about that last day, it's like, I can't wait, I can't wait for my first meal on day four, bro, oh my God, what am I the eat?
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Brought to you the first time I ever did the cleanse broke.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Brad, I went, I woke up at 5 a.m. order the big steak omelet with three pancakes and the uh, and the eye hot, Brad.
• 5:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I went to that zone, Brad, I drove 20 minutes to get that to get that shit, but I came back to the crib, bro.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I couldn't eat it like that's like that's also what it did like it realized everything like it's your your stomach track like your your what you can intake It decreases like I can I can only eat like three bites of the pancakes a conneed almond had to go it all the way
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I better than me.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do any juice cleanses.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I get it the concept sounds cool, but about 10 something years ago, somewhere along that line.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to do a colonoscopy for whatever reason.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was I asked for some issues at the time.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was close to a boy.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was 25 with a row.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had stomach issues, they thought I had cancer.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they could check it, what they made sure I didn't have cancer.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, I don't know if I could close these.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I had to get a colonoscopy tumor.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: But sorry, you know what that name is?
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Lick with old name, oh, yeah, that's why it wasn't the first time.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right there.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 6:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's terrible, bro.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, that's how the, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, bro.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can't even say that on the 9th, 8th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you're getting your physicals, all those things, so you're catching up and too late.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: You wouldn't know about your body, which you're back on on, especially if you've been outside, you messing with these little thuddies out here locally and internationally.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know what the hell they got, so make sure you straight, my boy.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was it for the young kids that's listening to the show.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you know, that one of my young kids, y'all listen to AJ, bro, and don't, don't let this go scare you, bro.
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: He a little freaks away, but, you know, I think he means wow.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: non football for any of the things I actually want to talk about show more, but we started talking about some other stuff which is cool with me.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to show our reading here.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a show like I said it covers the commanders for the Washington Post.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a perfect time.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let's fix this.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a perfect time to get the good man on to show how you feeling boss man.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going on.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to figure out what you're talking about.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was more of it.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Really good enough.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was so many different places in the matter of seconds.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can at the right time then.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You did.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I actually blamed Dre, Dre.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of stared at left.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what got to check out.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's on the ball face.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, man.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact, eight to nine, have you ever fasted before?
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like, like, to my like one day thing or two day thing.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like a juice type of thing.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: How for day?
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've done it.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I've done it.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've done like intermittent fasting.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've done like the juice cleanse shit, you know, but I ain't ever done like, you know, Ramadan and like that.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, intermittent fasting is something I'm super familiar with.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I can do that on to that.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, intermittent fasting is cool.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we were talking about like a three day cleanse.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm about to get on that at the top of the top of the next week.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's kind of where the nature of the conversation going.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you familiar with it, man.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think intermittent fasting is probably the best way to actually get involved with something like that.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's actually like sustainable, you know.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like you got to.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause you think about them like cleanses is people do it for a day or two or three.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: and then they just go right back to doing whatever it is.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right back to it all the way.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the other thing, AJ.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you ever think about a claim, that's enough.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to worry about that phone, that social media stuff, whatever the church is talking about, don't need it like, it's, it's, it's, it's, I would never do that.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's a good time to ever do that.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I am not a, I am not a member of that church.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, God, okay, okay, okay.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, the shots talked to us, man.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: where we three and 10, I think I'm the first of, I ain't a lot of y'all.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: The last time we talked to Sean, I didn't think it was going to get this bad.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: At all.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And here we are, four games left in the season man.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think for the way in which Washington has trended,
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: especially going into week 15 against New York Giants.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: We see that Jayden is missing another or he's missing another game officially declared out on Wednesday.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you take of the news and just like the tumultuous ups and downs of the sophomore slash year or two season for Jayden Dangos?
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of been a story of a season, you know, he hasn't been able to get a rhythm at any point.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's pretty much every time he touches the fill, he's coming right back off, you know, this is the fourth time against the Vikings that he got knocked out of a game due to injury and none of them have, you know, I saw it at a dislocated elbow, obviously, but even that one didn't end up being that serious.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds crazy to say, but, you know, didn't suffer any fractures, didn't have any ligament damage.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like, first bas, it looked, ended up on keeping them out for three weeks.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been more sort of these little nagging injuries, but it's been really impactful.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's really unlike any other, like you need every single rap to get into that groove and get familiar with your teammates, get comfortable in the system, react to what the defense is doing and so if you're constantly in and out like he's been this season, it's only natural that sometimes even when he's healthy, he's not gonna look quite the same, which I think we saw against the Vikings, before he got hurt, that game was pretty much already a rap, you know what I mean?
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if something we've mad about them pulling him, only being down 17's up, but like I don't know who watching that game thought the commander's about to come back in that one, you know?
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been unfortunate, you know, it's kind of a weird sophomore somewhere.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's not like he's playing every game and he's just not looking as good as he did last year, but it's because of the injuries that he hasn't really been able to catch that rhythm.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know, you know, a lot of fans started comparing to RG3 and whatnot and kind of freaking out, especially like Drake may have in a good year and Caleb Williams and the various having a good year.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I felt the brakes a little bit like I think, you know, if you can get some better injury look and also improve his behavior when it comes to doing a better job with protecting his body, you could see a
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: So let me ask you this because I feel like, you know, after throwing that pick in and getting pushed down by Zayah Rogers and then pulling them off the game and having them not returned.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: It feels like the focus has been primarily on Jaden and his health versus the fact that this team just lost zero to 30 to the Vikings.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this team was one game away from the Super Bowl last year to now probably slated to pick in the top five with the same staff returning.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: How have you felt like the energy has been around the building in regards to job security
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, Dan Quill himself, like, what's the feeling that you have because I know you from covering the Raiders.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you've been around, unfortunately, some dysfunctional situations coaching us, but like, what's your feeling, you know, going into the second week of December?
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, like you said, I've been around some teams where I've seen locker rooms be checked out, but this is not one of those situations.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, as bad as that game was, I mean, the locker room is pretty much been what has been all season.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, this team has been pretty steady.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: When it lose, it hasn't really changed.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think guys are still brought into what Dan Cohen is preaching.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: They like plan for them, they like what he's about, but like the team just isn't good, but that's ultimately what it is.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I know it's,
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: the same regime and a lot of the same faces and names from that run last year, but due to a mix of injuries, you know, step back some performance in terms, you know, for Jaden in particular, I'm not not looking as good when he's out there.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're from a coaching standpoint, you know, Cliff King's Barriers has some laps this year.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Joe Wood Jr. got, you know, defensive play, college trip from them.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they overall, they just regrets, or either rest have been unavailable this year.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they also caught some bad breaks.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like last year, this team was,
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: like super lucky in a lot of moments.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you need luck.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like every team that goes on a run has luck along the way.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like some of those, the failed Mary that gets the barriers or somebody's last second wins, like that stuff isn't really static here to here.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like some of those breaks are going to go to other teams' way.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's really what happened in this year.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And some of those close games that they lost.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is one of them years, you know what I mean?
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think it's gotten to the point where anybody's worried about, I don't know if she's anybody, but like dead quen, and the out of Peter's like aren't going.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't very confident in that.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do think they have like an interest in decision to make a defense coordinator, though, because you have to decide, and my goal can come on plays, and I'm gonna give it back to Joe Witt, and I'm gonna, you know, go get another defense coordinator to call a play, so I think that's probably the one spot where you kinda have some intrigue on to the off season.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: If it were you to sign real quick before Drake comes in to ask you a question, would you be ringing a alarm if you were on a ship as far as like,
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: the one year high like pretty much on a rollercoaster at this point and now going into year three would you be signaling the alarm to something has to get from a major standpoint like we got to make a change at head coach.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't like my time terms like this offseason I would definitely say the urgency is there and like the pressure is on so it bounced back in year three like you can't have another season like this injuries are not and I think.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: There has to be a certain level of urgency from the front office collectively does all season to improve it, because this team like on defense, they need help it all through levels offensively, you can say why I receive it, maybe get some more offensive line help, tight end, depending on what happens with Zach arts obviously, but they have a lot of cast space.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think around 80 million according to over the cap, they could free up some more space if they want to, you know, they don't have many draft picks, so maybe, you know, if they do end up with a top five pick, maybe you'd explore trading back and getting some more draft picks.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got to be aggressive this offseason because it's pretty much money time now.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: You had that grace from the first year, making that run.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: But this year was a huge step back.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can't have another whatever they ended being 3 and 14, 4 and 13.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Next season otherwise there's probably going to be some changes.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they got to ramp up that aggression.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: You did it.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: It kind of worked along the margins in the past.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, signing guys to win your deals, to your deals, that kind of situation.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they got to ramp up the aggressiveness and free agency in particular.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to ask this because the Jaden situation at this point had just kind of become strange to me.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I say that because, you know, as you mentioned, he's taken out of the game at 17, nothing.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: OK, cool.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I get it.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looked like me and hurt himself again with that arm.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then he's not playing this week, but they don't know if they're shutting them down yet this season.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's still practicing.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you kind of make of that
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess what I'm trying to go with this is if the season meant me thing and this season kind of went a little differently.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jayden with that injury right now does he play?
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is he capable of playing or do you think this is some kind of caution?
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he even come from higher than Dan Quinn.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the most of the culture staff that may be front office.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like saying, hey, you know, we got to dial it back with him.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And do you think we see Jayden again this season?
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think there's always like quarterbacks on a
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, just go back to when he dislocated his elbow.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I get in the moment, Dan Quinn, and say, didn't question it the next day, you know, he kind of walked the back and said, he missed a mark with that one.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that kind of thing sticks in your head, you know, and makes you, you know, take your time a little bit more when it comes to bringing him back.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, you remember the week before, you know, the broccos game, he was practicing that week too, and didn't play.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's not necessarily like a new thing.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's really just a pain tolerance, you know, kind of situation.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's not, there's no fractured, there's no ligament damage.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So unless he dislocates the elbow again, there's not really like a re-endry, but it's more so like a soreness level.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, can't he deal with it and take a hit and be fine?
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I think that's kind of where he's at now.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's really a situation where they're like, see if they win or lose this weekend in terms of bringing him back because you already got to limit him from the playoff.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like that part of it is over with anyway.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now like if they were, I don't know, let's say one game over 500 and kind of end that they could NFC hunt, would he press through it and play this week?
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: probably.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I get that's a whole different bargain, but I think especially which you'd be in a lemonade and playoffs.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: If he's too sore for who for what, you know, at this point, you know what I mean?
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you throw him out there and something else happens, he ain't going to hear your end of it, you know what I mean?
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I think we end up saying them again, just because Jayden's kind of getting down and this whole message that Dan Quinn is appreciative, you know, compete compete compete kind of the old Pete Carroll mantra from when he's with sea
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't see them just sitting in a healthy jade and dails.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: That does not seem to be the plan at all.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think he's like two sort of play this week.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, to me.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's actually just changed me and transparent.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's actually my fear.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know exactly how they, and what I say, my fear is like, I don't know how they even really want to handle them.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it seems like the way they maneuver with,
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jayden, you know, I do agree when you said that like 17 nothing that the game was essentially over in that specific situation, like you're not going to, you're not going to win that game.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you can tell that, but in the grand scheme of things like the way you message after the game is like we knew that he could have came back, he was healthy enough to come back.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I get that, but like if he wasn't healthy, he
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: 100% before the game started or before that before that before a kickoff excuse me, I don't see the purpose of eating and playing them at that point.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I personally felt like if he wasn't 100% out there or even 90% because you not going to be 100% like how it awful a little bit.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like when I met in terms of how you're viewing him coming back with three game, at least three games left to shine.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: What exactly would you do is my first question?
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like, how do you think people will view things if, you know, a game comes along or a play comes along and he still dealing with the same injury and a similar circumstance happens again within these three weeks?
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: How would you handle this best situation?
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think he was cool.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: We want to take a game.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he just got driven into the turf on his
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: on his elbow, you know what I mean?
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it was cool until it wasn't.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of just football, though, you know?
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said, nobody's really, especially just like the season, nobody's 100%.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's kind of a flookie play.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like he was doing too much scrambling or holding onto the ball too long in the back.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if he's like, what's he going to do to pick and then not try to tackle the guy, you know what I mean?
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like if he... And now it's my main thing too, so I'm like, bro, like it's him and Terry, like somebody got to make a play.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's only them too.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not mad at him for going out and going out.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if he gives up on it and everybody's in my law, he's checked out, he don't even care.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I can't really get on them for that.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think for me, like I said, like if he's fully helped, like not fully, but like if he's helped you and I
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would play up just because I think that messaging matters when you talk about team culture, things that I've made sure you have other guys playing through Andrew.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: You see Bobby Wagner, you know, 36, whatever I would cover with is, you know, he's not practicing because there's knee injury and he's still going out there and playing, you know, in this law season, this could be his last year we never know, you know, Zach Urch just went out last week, you know, in a meaningless game essentially, so like if Jayden is good and you don't play him, what kind of message is this into a rest of locker room?
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think you got to think more big picture.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And at the end of the day, like with Jayden, because he's, you know, he's built how he's built.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's not Josh Allen.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's not patching my arms.
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: He can't take somebody's bigger his.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to have to change his behavior ultimately.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like whether it's next season or the end of this season, like it's going to continue to be a thing unless he gets better about protecting his body.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you obviously surround him with better pieces so that he doesn't have to press as much.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, you know, he's not going to be a bubble wrap out there.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to have to take this risk at some point.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: any value to hold them out if you can't play.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you coach a scary like that and you kind of already, I think that's the kind of stuff you start seeing when a coach is worried about like job security and like I should have about the fire that kind of thing and I don't think that's where they're at.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think they're just kind of going to let it fly.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's ready to go these last three games.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I guess to keep it on the Jaden Daniel's topic for me,
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: We say he should protect himself a little bit better, but I think that really kind of starts with the office coordinator, Cliff King's very calling the better offense.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And like you touched on having better talent around, do you think that Cliff ends up returning as the OC for the same next year?
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or do you think that's something that they have to
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Really sit back and have a review on from a schematic standpoint aside from if Cliff ends up taking a job elsewhere, but I think Jaden really wants to live in the pocket.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's just ain't nothing there.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whether you have injuries with why receivers are not Still the office should be able to function somewhere Yep, I mean, I'd be kind of surprised at Cliff isn't back unless, you know, he gets a hate coaching job, and then I feel a college or something in nature, but you know
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he'll be back as O.C.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: otherwise.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I do think they need to change their approach on offense.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's kind of that, I mean, this kind of has followed Cliffs since Arizona, right?
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is he kind of has that trend of like, those start will and then seem like the defenses are just and they don't have an adjustment to the adjustment, right?
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they get a little bit too static, you know, like they have that trend where like when they're in shotgun, they pass when they're in pistol, they're running.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: You like you kind of know what's coming.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they have to diversify the offense a little bit more.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do think like there's the element of personnel there, like the injuries ever see here, and needing to ask some more weapons that maybe can help open things up our offense.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: It definitely got to change how they operate.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's clearly not working even when Jayden's been healthy.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that Cliff owns some of the burden here, even though Jayden had that caveat.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Jayden missed half the season.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: The receivers were all half the season.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what could I do?
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I still think the offense could look better.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: than what has been.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we've seen other other playcalls across the league, you know, kind of lift up units.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you really want to see from a great playcar and like look at Lakala Shanahan has been doing with the 49ers this year.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, half the team has also been hurt, but that offensive skits consistently produced it.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that team is in the playoff hunt.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Coming up compared to where the commanders are.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I definitely don't think you let them off the hook for this, but I'd be surprised if they went as far as as to fire.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: To South, when did you start
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: So this season, yeah, yeah.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so I wanted to know we could get exclusive, exclusively maybe on Travodos, some insight into Cliff Kingsbury supposed to be the office coordinator for the Raiders.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then joining Washington, do you have any, uh, inside details of how that really came about because the Raiders ended up having to go with, uh, someone else, right?
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was a good thing.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I was a little guessy that they are a little guessy.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was last year.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, basically the difference was, so the Raiders date historically, they only give out to your contracts to their assistant coaches.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what Cliff agreed to initially with the Raiders with what Hands on the Appears being the head coach.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But then, you know, commanders came in with that third year.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: That ultimately was a different from what I heard from from my perspective, being on the Raiders be at the time.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: is really what it came down to in addition to, you know, the commander's having a number two pick and having the clear pathway to drive jade and dales, versus derators who at the time had Adonocano and the 13th pick.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: They ended up getting barbara so school, but they ain't having a quarter-bex.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's a pretty easy choice for Cliff, extra year, and young number two of our pick to just wonder, Heisman is pretty easy for him.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, I want to ask some switching gears a bit.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the Zagger's injury, obviously, very unfortunate, but now a lot of fans kind of see this is an opportunity for Ben Senate to kind of maybe finally start to show something or whatever he can be in this NFL.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I'm not so sure he's even in line to be that next guy up, like, do you have any insight as to who may be in line with his dates?
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know they like to use them as a block and tight end, but we're talking about as far as a receiver tight end.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: or is it going to be like a yank off or bakes maybe he gets more opportunities in the past game like what are you for C going for for the rest of the season at least at the tight imposition.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I better be next.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a round of all.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, I mean, he's that that move tight in kind of feeling for what earth does.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think base was thick and then that kind of block and roll, as DQ about it, he's saying to indicate that you know, Ben's going to get a bigger opportunity here.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He spoke in a locker of another day and he said he's usually just going to change pretty dramatically from what has been previously He's only played about Think 27% of the snaps This year and last year you got the same rate of his snap so been pretty low I mean, he only has nine career catches for a second round pick like you definitely want to see more out of them I think Ert's his production has been a reason why we haven't just because he's been pretty good I think for especially for his age the last couple years and it's kind of hard He just tried taking them off the field, but
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now you need to bend the step up and so we should be able to see what he has like if he's not you know if it's is going off or or you know they're using baits as a receiver over him in that situation they're not like that.
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know you might not have a you know my sorry.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so I'd be kind of surprised if he's not you know taking over that urge wrong.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you also enjoy you wrote a really good question because I can't, maybe it was been standard who asked about the 2024 draft class and it's pressure.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the way he answered it, he just said, you know, I'm not gonna do like grades and the season grades right now.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I think it's something like that personally and I'm like, you know,
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the problem doesn't lie in your response, but it lies in the actual question being asked because if the question is asked, that means I don't think anybody's sold on the draft class itself, like what do you think?
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know you got on this year, but I mean, you've been around just long enough to know like those draft those draft picks in 2024 and even 2025 to something stand like it's just
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about that, that, that, that class, overall, and where Adam Peters, uh, responsibility, uh, where, where does that sit for you in terms of like, where, where, where the rookies or the, the second of your players have been, I guess, seemingly, um, underperforming.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I don't really, you know, I don't knock deep you too much for not really going to in depth on that one.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I think if you asked him that exact same question, which we will.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: after we hate team like he's going to give answer, you know, like I think that's just something that typically you get in that in the season press conference.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just kind of the time for that kind of stuff.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: But especially because like Ben, for example, like
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: what if he goes out these last work games and averages 80 R as a game.
• 30:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we can be like, oh, he's great.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like, kind of got to see how these guys finish up.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think that second round, CROT, is kind of the focus of Ben's question.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's fair, like, you know, Mikey Stinger still had a pretty good Ricky here playing outside this year and switching a nickel started off pretty rough.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think he's been better since he moved back outside in my opinion.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: But like, Johnny Newton, you know, he hasn't really seen the field all that much just here with the Ryan Payne and Ken Law taking the most of the snaps there.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you get three second round picks, you would hope to get more production than they've gotten from that specific round at that 2024 class.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair to say.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they would say to give them some true serums.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you definitely want to see more when you spend that type of draft capital and that puts a lot of the owners there is on Adam Peters.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, you got the first round pick right that year with Jake and Daniels.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the first round pick this year, Josh Connelly.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: After the rough start, he settled in pretty well.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's last five or six games or so.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's starting to turn the corner.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but that that 2024 class you would have hoped to give more out of it considering how many draft picks that they had and where those draft picks were.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so, um, it's a lot of pressure on him this offseason, especially since they don't have that many picks because of the Larry Meetons with trade, which has been a great trade for him.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's playing at, you know, all pro level, but because of that trade, they only have two picks in the first four rounds.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so that's kind of what I mentioned earlier, like, you know, let's say they end up with the fourth pick.
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and there's not.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: They feel the same amount of number four as they feel about the number eight Gowner board.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you trade back there and you get extra second round pick or third round pick or whatever it is So I think they're gonna have to get creative and how they build the roster this all season because they don't have as much draft capital as they didn't a pass And because it also kind of makes it more glaring that at least so far They haven't gotten the returns that you would like to see from those those second round those extra second round picks that they had in 2024
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I think for me, I just want to ask you from a personal standpoint, how have you been adjusting the DC?
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't think you're originally from here, whatever, but like, how has it been?
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: We should have been into the rallies, man.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Covering the Washington West against last commanders and seeing how in tone people are with the fan base and what's going on with the team?
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I'm from St. Louis, so I haven't really.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been a whole bunch of time.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been here a couple of times as a tourist, but should I really been here that much?
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is there many road gains that they had going on with the drink going on all these different things?
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't that?
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was kind of just like a crazy transition with when I joined, like in the middle of the season, everything we had like two weeks ago just before I moved out here.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I could, like it's been dope to be in the city that's, I mean, the same Louis is the same way, but like to be in the city that's like predominantly black again.
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of cool to see.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I comes with that being around you people.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was definitely a wild time to be in DC.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot going on in the city.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: generally.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but like you can definitely feel the passion from the fan base.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like Raiders fans are passionate too.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I was going to use it at, but that he's close passion is a little different.
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, I read reading the comments with some rest of the worries.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jaden's a bus.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, we're right.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: real so I mean I see I see the key to leave he say something like he would take bone mix over Jane down like come on bruh what do we eat what do we know when you I was saying well you know what that came from he got that he got that Bronco blue in the bruh yeah that's all it is but I but not thank you yeah you guys wait but not a passer from the fan base for sure has been been dope to see and like
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why does season like obviously hasn't been good for the team.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's still been fine.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's just changed new market in the team You ain't trying to mubble songs.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: She could least carry out I have some of that my first couple go rounds I'm gonna be cooking mostly when I'm in the market very very so we're gonna get you to twin drag It might be in
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: run club not working out of my logic.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I said you might be in the run club with the low.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, hold on wait.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me say let me tell you about the yeah, let me see.
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna let you know about the run clubs.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm gonna let you know.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was I'm gonna show somebody run club, but it's a nice it's a nice scene and not a song.
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, good, good little three mile runs.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they have a season right now.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So so in a couple months, I'm gonna hit you up about that.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I remember.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm you said that Vegas doesn't weather produce.
• 34:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have to react.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've made it to this.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess to stop before we get you out of here, man, I wanted to ask at least one question on the defensive side of the ball.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I know says Dan quiddles taking over the defense.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, initial.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: a little bit different and a little bit better.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then against Minnesota, you see them kind of get exposed again in a sense.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the big glaring thing is they have to play so vanilla on deepness because the past rush just isn't there, and I think the culture staff really acknowledges that at this point.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But is there anything that they can do for the rest of the season in January any kind of past rush, whether Dan Quinn is going to just maybe get a little bit more aggressive with some blitzes or anything?
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it this point?
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: from what I see for the defense, they're just content with playing that slow, bleed kind of defense.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if hope and hoping that the office can make them a mistake, is there anything they can do before, did you think that they're going to change any kind of method?
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we saw them play the other way before, right?
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think, you know, when Joe was calling plays, I think they were pretty aggressive, a lot more man coverage.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Their blitz rate was pretty high.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were pretty consistently in the top 10 in the league of blitz rate.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was, let me start with that the C
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that, it can't be that.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's what's going to happen if they go back to trying to live that way.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's, I mean, you kind of damn, if you do damn, if you don't like this version of the defense isn't good either.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's an answer schematically.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a personal issue.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they could probably have been moments throughout the season where they could have been better schematically, but I think it just a matter of like, they just don't have the guys that you need between injuries and, you know, this defense also wasn't that good last year either.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you were really banking on some of these additions.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know, go back to wise, getting hurt, you know, Armstrong, Armstrong was having a really good year before he got hurt.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: You think to show my issue with that is even what they added in all season, who were those guys?
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Those guys weren't anything, might of game changers.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, I mean, I mean, Armstrong was hoping, I mean, you know, I mean, he was, yeah, like, what, six sex and six games?
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he was, he was, he was, he was.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was playing pretty well.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Tray Amo, she took another second round pick, he gets hurt.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, Kim Lott has been a good amount of money on, and I think he's paid, he's turned out to be a pretty good addition form, but this defense, they don't have to, I mean, most of their money, most of their resources is offseason, that's where it has to go, like it doesn't need more better dues, ultimately, so I think there's going to be a top priority in offseason.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think, do you think DQ,
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: will end up being the play caller for 2020 six or he hires from outside of his familiarity if he ends up staying at D.C. because I mean I expect you know guys like Raheem Morrison, Jeff Obrick, who have coached with him in the past to possibly be available the way the family is.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are you firing Raheem already?
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean that's not looking good for him.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's my guy, personal friend, good dude, but like, I just can't see how they're going to continue with that.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, we know that those are guys from his, his tree, like DQ's tree.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do we think it's a need to go outside of that, that family tree, if he decides to not be the one to call the defense?
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think DQ knows if he's on Carbla's next year or not yet to be honest.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like in the past, like when he had his most successful to Falcons, he wasn't calling plays then.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that's really his preference as a head coach.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know we had a ton of success.
• 38:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Call and play is obviously for the Cowboys when he was there defense coordinator.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we know he can do it, but this is a whole different job when you're the head coach, right?
• 38:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You've got to be on top of everything, not just slacking in on defense.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's hard to pull off.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: But
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know it's hard to say, you know, like you said, it could depend on who else might be available.
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like every game does get fired, maybe that does change the math form.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I honestly, I don't think he's made up his mind about it, you know, the, they did show progress with him calling plays those first couple games.
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: But this last week was a huge step back, obviously.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think for me personally, like if I was, let's say I'm a commander's fan, I'm not, but if I was.
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I probably want him to turn over to play call on to somebody else again and kind of get back to that kind of CEO type of hit coach.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, like some some guys that works out, you know, you should just decide on MacVase and whatnot.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think that CEO style kind of just being over type of everything helps him through your game management, clock management, all that, everything at that nature.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that'd be the better off hand before, but I guess we'll see, you know, when I'll see some kind of stuff.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: to Sean Reed, ladies and gentlemen, to watch him post.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's step this now, AJ and Jerry, let's, to Sean, you might be working, but let's say at least extend the invite.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Next event, we get, because it's a very, very long.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's extend the invite to Sean make sure that he noted what we got going on.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: He could pop out with show some show face that did the commanders.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Archimanders and then I'll buy this a lot as I had to fix my work.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did you get to do anything in Madrid?
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was out there.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I'd seen you or I mean you guys had early times of having a lot for practices but did you get to do anything with someone at downtown?
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's probably
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I sound like the right answer to the me, bro.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't going to lie to you, man.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: You won't be ready to tell you was outside because I was outside to you.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's another international trip next year, right?
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: We may have to meet that year, bro.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping, I'm hoping it's Brazil.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope it is net the UAE with David talking about.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: As I said, it was cool, but I don't know, bro.
• 40:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think, well, if as long as it's not like Germany, nowhere cold, man, like give me somewhere nice.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we'll see because Madrid was raining, but it was still like 50 some degrees, but I mean, it was still vibes, we're still getting ready over.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a shot.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Take care.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and Julia, we can wear appreciate you for joining us, man.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be in touch.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Be dope.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: But appreciate you.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, appreciate you.
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: There is to shot.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really, let's go get us back on.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: As always, man, he had that light button in that subscribe button.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: This goes to him units.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that I think that is a location to for the German army.
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the Germany one.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jay Tissin.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: So not someone, but well, I guess I have to say someone.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Someone that covers the team as a be reported to me that it was going to be U.A.E.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: But.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, who knows, because that's like how they done with like certain NFL teams.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: They made them pick like certain international markets like the grounds and the evils.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like, I don't know, Nigeria or Ghana, and then like some of the same.
• 41:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what this is in the dream.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to win too.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: They might have been a long trip.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so I mean, it'll be interesting.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just hopefully this team is better to watch because that was miserable.
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't like to say 13 over time, Ganyas Adolphins.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Where I was just, I mean, I was just in my road pretty much by myself.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: bunch of Dolphins fans, there was some cool games around my Dolphins fan, some cool kids in front of me, they'd not familiar with the game like that, so they just asked me questions.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean it was cool, like outside of the game.
• 42:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I did not get to see the hats on performance on TV.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now I was like, it was some DJ, but it's like, how do you have a DJ performance at high time, but he had at the beginning, he had Daddy Yankee, but Daddy Yankee didn't do the Daddy Yankee songs that I know, like he did one song got off and then DJ just DJ Khaled his thing up there.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: All in all, man, actually, you know, I know a lot to you, where you ain't even going to liquor during games, even.
• 43:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was only beers, you know, I guess I'd be sober that that's frustrating.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm going to drink no beers.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't drink beer at all.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Jerry, we already made it.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: We already made a pack where we say we're going.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to wherever that we are.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Great in public comfortably, and I don't want to worry about getting arrested for cursing.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why would you be in a resting way?
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: But have you seen the laws over the laws like and you in a good way?
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you hold your tolerance, if you know you could possibly get arrested in their country, hell, no.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'd be like, it's you.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I go a lot.
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you say public, and public, I'm not a belligerent dude.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not a belligerent.
• 43:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, but at the same time, I get you like the person with the fear and so I'm like, what do they think?
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I scratch my hair, they're all weird.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the good joke.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know how to look at them.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Public intoxication cut his hand off.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: From a historical standpoint, I think you have a point for those that's on the podcast side, they're Tizzy Sid in the conversation with us to Sean that Noah Brown is, y'all gonna be mad when Noah Brown is playing the Zach Earth's Rose.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of like the move guy, you play the end line, well he's not gonna play the end line, Noah Brown is.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he's played H-back before, he's played tight to the formation.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he did that like his last year in Dallas his first year in Houston.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I'm not saying that Jason's right, but I'm acknowledging that, uh, like, no-erbrowns role can slightly change, but also like his importance in the offense can can increase as well.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, not to say that, you know, I mean, the entry side point and the ability to say healthy, that's one thing, but the actual role is self.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think you make a good point, uh, in terms of how they may, uh, change, no-erbrowns.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: role, um, as opposed to, like, increasing Senate's in Yankees or granted.
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be like, oh, who cares?
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're gonna lose all these games.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: it it it may be a point like you shouldn't be too surprised if his role doesn't significantly increase.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that's kind of what society I was talking about like if it does it what does that say about Ben and and that's kind of the whole circle the the full circles and the scope of the the conversation is where I was getting that that's okay so okay let's say for example Sunday right I think society been playing like 27% in the snaps
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: something like that.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's say if he's still like that's 27% or maybe increases the 35% but there's no productivity from an offensive standpoint as far as reception is yardage anything of that.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: For those that are Senate believers because I know you mall you're not mean you were right on board when Jordan Reed was on here.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: raven about him like he was a speaking speaking first round and I don't really know where you stand on Senate, but for those, there's some that still believe it him or one to get the opportunity if we come back here Sunday after the game and he's 0 0 0, do we just like, do we just like RIP him?
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean, you did a very dead in your eyes like from that and never got this is honestly AJ.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is it for him as far as what they see for Vincent with with these guys see.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think we already have a pretty damn good idea, but now I'm with Earth's injury.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of left with no choice because who else do you have in that tight air room to say, this guy is definitely going to take Earth's place or this
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nobody in that tight air right now like John Bix has never been thought of as the fast catch and tight And causing ink off has been a fourth tight in to fringe practice squad fringe not even a roster guy in this NFL career and then it leaves been sent
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, for me, like I personally, I'm more interested in what they've shown and they've shown this that they don't really believe much in them.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that girl has been hurt before.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has missed a gamer to here and here and Senate has stepped up in that role and been any different.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't put him in that role to give him any more responsibility that he has had.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So to this point,
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a, you have to show me at this point, because I'm already thinking that they don't see much in you, so you must not be that guy, but at the same time in this situation, now you know, it's just gone for the season.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Adam Peters has the one to see Ben sent it out there in that football field.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if Cliff King's very dangling, whoever else doesn't see how he fits in his offense, you have to put him out there and let everyone see.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: at this point because some people may still be out there like, oh, they're just not giving them the opportunity.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I see a lot of that on social media.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I see a lot of that.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he doesn't get a lot of targets.
• 48:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: When he makes targets, when he gets targets, he makes the most of his opportunities.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's still people out there to think that.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not that you have to show them.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, people better than you could tell them.
• 48:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, he's a little sinkless one.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what you got to do at this point.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then, and that goes for Cliff King's very like, even if you don't see him as a certain type of tight end in your offense, you're still going to have to use him in this, but you're going to have to go out there and make him play a certain way of seeing if he could be any kind of different way in this office.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you have to show people, you have to show Adam Peters.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you have to show him, in this
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a bad titan, if this guy is not a good titan, show Adam Peters that.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's something Adam Peters need to see.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he needs to see his mistake up close to personally.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I want to see.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he looked at the tape and drafted this man, he would be like, if he looked at the tape and drafted this man.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, he's going to put them, he's going to put them, uh, agent, it's not going to pop me around.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to pop me shit in your house.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you make the money.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, man, you know what, you got to let them see what he did wrong.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He forced him.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, ask to let him.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't see nothing.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He better see it.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Put it in his face.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: See it.
• 49:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Make him smell it.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Make him smell the shit on the ground.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Make him smell his own shit.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's his shit.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Make him smell it.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Crazy outrageous
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey guys, it got to a point where I knew when Dakota fucked up, right?
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: She would, she would watch, because I go downstairs, fix my call for you.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: She would watch me walk down the stairs, bro.
• 50:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she would be asleep maybe in the room, my work room that I'm in right now.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: She may be asleep right there, and if I'm going down stairs, but she would run to the stairs and watch me go down the stairs.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh yeah, you should have down here, then you.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, she already went to the room.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I give it to you saying I think another big thing to these last four games and also think with the New York Giants.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is our quasi quasi giant preview and we're actually done in like 30 seconds.
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have much to say about the defense.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think we kind of acknowledge where we are on that side of the bow.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget about Traylon Berks.
• 51:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sitting here saying that he's going to be special or anything, but when Noah Brown came back, that boy percentage, placed that jump to like 20% 25% and he's pretty easy.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think I actually, I think it is, I think it is explainable.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think it is, but I don't think that it was fair.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think like this matter was, yeah, I think that matter was expected you gave the Noah Brown just because he came back was just a little too much.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I met, like he was at 60, 70% when Noah Brown was out.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't mean like 40, bro.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: 40% some like that and see where it goes you don't have to target him like 70 times just keep him on the field um alright I think we're good uh last question
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess for us, for me, we that God understood this week.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: The hell we need to do that, Paul.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Boys, I need this for a point, man.
• 52:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: All we're under a over under two touchdowns, man.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: One and a half touchdown.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the actual, that's the line.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: One and a half touchdowns.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going over under for Washington.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I say, oh, Lord Jesus.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Damn, over, you got to, you got to do something other than what you did last week.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know what I say, man, under I just can't believe I got to watch Marcus Muriel time again.
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, at least it's the correct way to say his name.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I respect you for it.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: But it's like, how you wait a whole decade to correct people on how to spell your name and you were the number two pick and then tire draft.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's not like you was journey man, bro.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You were the number two pick in the draft and your highs in the trophy winner.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: You just let people butcher your name forever.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe I don't make no sense, bro.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what I was going to ask y'all, so I guess that's a good, good point, I'm going to go in.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's what I was saying here.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So what happens if they, um, I was if they, within these last four games, at least two of them, they lose by 20 or more points, like, does that affect how you, how you, how you feel about anything, or is it just the right, or at this point?
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is what it is at this point, right?
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I think if that happens, fans will get louder about Dan Quinn remaining in the head coach.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what will change right now.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: The focus has been on Jayden Daniels and him.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess not being healthy and not necessarily the fact that they lost zero to 30.
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: the only focus that you can really have at this point is the head coach if they don't show up.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the Minnesota game honestly was the last straw as far as you fill in any kind of way about this team maybe turning some kind of quarter, proving you wrong, whatever the case may be, but losing 31, nothing in Minnesota.
• 54:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you had already been blown out a couple of times this season.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then you felt like I feel, yeah, it's a couple of yeah embarrassing games that you felt like after that demo Broncos game in, you know, to an extent to my new golf game when you turn over to actually you had two straight over time games.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You felt like you were at a competitive standpoint in the season, even though the season didn't go the way you wanted, you felt like you were at a competitive standpoint in the season where you wanted to see this thing in on a good note.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in that Minnesota game, just kind of ended all of the good will for a rest of the season.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like at this point, I don't think nothing changed my opinion about the season.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a complete waste, complete disaster of the season.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I don't even think we're going to see Jayden Daniels for a rest of the season, which is to me the biggest disappointment because we didn't get to see him finish the season
• 55:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, at least show that he's going to go out in a different type of way and show you some flashes going into year three.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So to me, like, even if they get blown out these last couple of games or whatever, it'll just add to what this season has already been and as AJ said, the the chance for their cleanse fire and I get a louder.
• 55:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's the only thing that may change with blowout loss as far as
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: John Apple bottom, he's not getting fired.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: The gym is worse and more responsible for the season.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jay Tizzi, which is our second name Colin on Twitter, what's up, then everybody's in here in the chat.
• 56:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: This go as well.
• 56:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are very, I can't get over that initial comment as you gave us breath.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: What a way to answer in the chat.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it for us.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, we back Sunday post game driver that post game right after the Giants and Commanders Stay safe enjoy your weekend
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I said, huh, watchin' throw the ball, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' play through for a long, you gon' put it up, you're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in, don't be lookin' for the ref, don't don't fly again, keep the hell man on, keep the police tight, you the type you wanna win by any means, right, you should look alive, this is trapping now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,