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Brian Orakpo joins Trap or Dive · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying, huh, watchin' throw the ball, we gon' pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' plug them from the long, you gon' put it up, you're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in, don't be lookin' for the rest, you don't don't flag them, keep the hammer on, keep the police tight, you the type you want to win by any means, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a couple guests on the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You see the headline, Brian O'Rackbow is scheduled to join us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He will be joining us shortly, but we also have Michael Gennity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I use this like all the time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Spotrap, he is going to be joining us as well, very shortly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So let's kind of get some, talk some numbers, man, and contract situations.
2:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we really, somebody wanted to do this to talk about Brandon and I
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[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, we'll see what Michael has to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I was just going on, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's good, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Happy St. Patrick's Day of Audence of Celebrate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you got a green of, do you got a green at all right now?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, that's gold.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had green.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, I do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I bought the same thing as that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, bro.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So my data sent me a work, and I completely forgot I had this shit on all that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Music.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's just been wearing a green bead all day.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was wearing this green.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's just crazy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't think about this shit, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just got home that long ago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I need to know what St. Patches day and two.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, maybe like an hour ago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just I happened to go on my IG and I just kept saying people out in the bowel drinking black people so yeah, yeah, I had no idea.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, money ball said doing shows on Friday and started what that was my fault.
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[SPEAKER_04]: For Thursday, I think I was working.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was traveling.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's what, what is money going on?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But maybe, just get content, bro.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like any, any worked out perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because right as we were doing the show, they signed two wide receivers, Diamond Brown and Van Jefferson, along with also bringing back Chris Paul and worked out perfectly, bro.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We got his boy back, too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He loves Jeremy McNiffles.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's his man's.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, Nicholas came back during the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He came back after he came back like yesterday, I think.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So that was it, is that all right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
3:59
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm thinking about, Brad, as we wait for, um, Michael to come on, you know, I said, uh, yesterday and what he did, I now remember, because I remember seeing this, I was on my couch, um,
4:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I had initially said like this this running back group was comparable to last season, which I think it is to an extent, but then I started evaluating in my head what I remembered from last year's class, last year's class, I'm sorry, one of last year's runback group.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was respectable last year, above average.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm talking about on-paper, so I'm including Austin Eccler.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not talking about the injury.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about everybody that was in that room.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I still don't think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's super dynamic and like, does it need to be super dynamic?
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, but I don't think like that tree, you know, I mean, it depends.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think the fan base is going to fill us by the way, like when you talk about Bill, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have a negative thing to say about Bill per se, but like, I'm talking about like a true number one on your roster, um, I don't see it yet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm also in this mode, where it's like, I'm not even think about Jeremiah La Perseye, but I'm like, I don't think that they're done at the position and I think they know that they can get more from that position group unless they're content with the committee approach and like seeing if somebody rises to the top and just takes over the number one spot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I think I feel the same exact way, you know, like overly impressed by what is on the roster right now, it's currently running back by committee.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Some fans will lead you to believe that they already have a RB1 in Bill.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I disagree.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's completely just fans being oblivious to anything else going on outside of Washington.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I mean, I think I told you guys my approach every year in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I will always draft a running bag until I get Harvey Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, so I expect them to get a running bag even if it is not Jeremiah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Love at seven, depending on how the, the board plays out, but there's, there's some running bags within this class that they can add into the mix that can bring some competition.
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[SPEAKER_05]: to maybe make nickels or, you know, a white bill, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You kind of need two or three of those guys to play special teams.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My knickles has the edge there, but you definitely need more in that room, especially if the office is going to be predicated off of resembling like the Kubeyac and Ben Johnson's game.
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[SPEAKER_06]: As it stands, no, it's not dynamic, and I don't think any one in that building would say that this had dynamic running back room, but what it is is it's an NFL running back room, and by that it's pretty much a big one into the season with these four or three to four backs this on the roster right now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You could do a lot worse.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you're just going to be running back back in Medi.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think you're walking into the season like Bill's going to be a bailout out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That you're going to spread those, you're going to distribute those carries all over those guys between Rashad, White Bill and Jerome Ford and possibly Jeremy McNichol's, you know, depending on how much time he gets, or how much of the last share that he gets on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I think they feel good about any
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[SPEAKER_06]: of those running backs with what they have on office.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But no, it does not stop you from upgrading.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like if a Jeremiah loves you, just so happy it's the fall there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The number seven you dragged Jeremiah love.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And to AJ's point, yes, there are other running backs in his trap, Jeremiah loves teammate.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's the guy that could possibly be a commander.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's going to go a little bit later.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But, I mean, yeah, you know, this room doesn't stop you from adding to it, but I do think that if they have to go into the season with what they have, they're expecting a leap from Bill for sure.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, year two, Bill should definitely be better than year one Bill.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He should be working on his body.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think that was one of the things that he had issues with last season.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, he went when he
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, he takes those little nicks and bruises.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He gets banged up a bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It didn't stop him from, you know, appearing in games.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was pretty durable for next standpoint, but just as far as being available, practice wise and, you know, just being that guy that you can count on about the season and not hitting that rookie wall, which he hit, so you do hope that year.
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[SPEAKER_06]: to bill can overcome that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, as I mean, maybe you to bill does take this right at back, right at back to another level.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And by that mean, in better than last year, even with the potential of an awesome neck, we're on the roster for a full season.
9:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I look at a reshaw white as kind of like a poor man's awesome neckler in the awesome neckless prime.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I mean, you know, if you have awesome necklaces, if reshaw white brings to the table, what you're expecting,
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[SPEAKER_06]: and think you got the other guys who make nipples, you know what you have at him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's a solid guy who's just good to have and run it back for him for pretty much same thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That should be better to last you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do I know what work I'll video Jay says he's talking about?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's the way he was dashing or something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Who's working out with play?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was what he was, he was what a trainer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, well, Jay says if it's on Twitter, tag me, tag me and it's so I can look at it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know, man, it's an interesting position.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think like, and originally we were going to do like our top five.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My boss.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I'm a Christian Kirk thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm I'll make nor you bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He tried to be true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I ain't getting to strike it.
10:16
[SPEAKER_04]: We was going to do like our, we'll push it back the next week, the like rating our top five, um, free agent signings or acquisitions for Washington, but like if I had to give like an agree for how they just, I was anistic thing on offensive side, but like I can go a little bit more macro.
10:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, for how they approach free agency, um, I am impressed.
10:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to go player by player.
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[SPEAKER_04]: but like they've done a good job from like where they started, like the perception because it was, I kind of believed the amount of, the amount of vitreal and angst people, I mean, it's not surprising but like the fact that it happened and it happens annually after one tapering day,
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[SPEAKER_04]: legal tampering, that's not even the official starter for agency, like the official starters the next day, but really after two days, people were losing their mind.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I kind of, I've given them like, it's definitely a passing grave, but like a B on for how they've been able to to really, uh,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Supplements supplement that price 7 and then get some speed at least at that tight in And even get some speed at receiver.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can respect to downtown the army Brown J Tizzy I don't expect him to be like a
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[SPEAKER_04]: Number two and number three, but like a role player.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's that's really good for for him, but also for an offense that had no downfield threat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A Terry wasn't playing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, well as you wait for a Michael.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What is y'all, what is, if you had to ask for like your first memory, the first memory that pops up in your head with Brian O'Rackbow as a rich guy, like, what comes in my, because I have one, and it's hilarious, it was always, he knew how to draw a hole, and I think it was a cowboy's game, I want to say it was a cowboy's game with Tony Romo was there, and he drew the game winning hole, like,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tony Romo do a touchdown pass and it was here in FedEx field and
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[SPEAKER_06]: Dallas got it called back well in zero left on the club because Brian a record got held and I just knew he was always great for drawing those hopes that was my favorite reason.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody said that on Twitter too when I was like, I was like, he was like, why, why are you always getting held against Tony Romo or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's exactly what we did.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It worked for us.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I think you mentioned that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just think for me, just the battle between like fans with a raccoon and carigan.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like who was the better, who was the better edge guy?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think that's one of the main things that sticks out for me from a filled perspective.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Funny enough, yesterday, Ma, I had retweeted a post.
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[SPEAKER_05]: that was like perfect time and it was it was speaking about guys that had like underrated NFL careers put up just that sort of a raccoan who was the other guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I got to pull that one back up, uh, right, and Lamar with the damn, that was, I was, yeah, Lamar with these ago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Lamar with the, and they just had, uh, amazing, amazing careers overall, uh, hold on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, uh, mom, do you see, uh, Michael in the studio currently?
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[SPEAKER_04]: No.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, hold on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And while you're doing that, I was going to say, a record had to be one of the most under-appreciated skin slash commanders players of all time.
14:15
[SPEAKER_06]: And I say that because when fans, you drapped the edge right there first round, you expect in big time, you expect somebody like, there's going to get you those miles, Garrett, stats, and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But a record was solid and consistent, who had his whole career here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think that was appreciated enough when it was here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when you look back on it, you will kill to have that guy across the right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like my the one memory to cause it's like there's no quite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's a good player really good player Like even when he left and went to the Tennessee like that was it that was a big deal for him because like now He started getting home a lot more because in a short amount of time compared to like his time in Washington right like good to have much more Washington
14:58
[SPEAKER_04]: But it was his gaming as New York on like Thursday night football, and he was on the sideline where he said, bro, we just, it's just nothing we can, he was like, he lied mad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He just killed, he always killed Washington, but he's just on the sideline.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He told that he told his coach he said, bro, it don't matter what you tell us, it is nothing we can do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I like Bradley, if you said that again, if you said that again, the Giants, I would love to know what you said that again, it's like, I think he had, I think he had big in his time, not making that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I would love to know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, actually, I think we'll be able to answer that question money, but, all right, so now we can go ahead, where's it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, all right, are you good now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll make it so you're straight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, let's go ahead and talk some money, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We actually don't do that a lot on this show at home, but this is going to be an interesting conversation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So let's go ahead and get Mike Janini, that's a last name right most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I use the site all the time, so I like I got to get the name right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But Mike, Janini co founder.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and editor of Spotrek is joined in this right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I appreciate you for joining us, boss man, this evening, and like, I think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to open my line of questioning.
16:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I think about Adam Peters in something that he said this all season.
16:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And to long story short it, he said like he was used to give in contracts to guys, lengthy contracts to guys who he was comfortable with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think about like the connections that they had to the people that they've signed this all season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it seems like he's stepping out of this conference on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I kind of want to see like if there's anything that you've noticed comparatively speaking in their first two years and how they've moved with their their signings their free agency signings compared to how they've been with can be seen or perceived as aggressive as all season have you noticed anything from the last two years to this one?
17:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's a super interesting sound bite from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost that admission, right, that it took a minute to settle into this thing and sort of figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody comes in and tries to set their own culture and bring in their own group and you know connect with as many people that they have in their past and then you get to this game and this 18-week schedule and you realize we just need football players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we just need the best football players available at the positions that we need and that is the change I'm seeing is that he is addressing needs with players in mind not so much organizational culture and organizational depth and growth if it's how can we win in 2026 right now with a certain player set the contracts to me are reflecting that the player choices are reflecting that and I think it's
18:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for lack of a better cliche, this is a huge one-year stint project for this front office and for obviously the Jaden Daniel situation as he approaches his extension eligibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just think it's it's a necessary change in mindset because yes, last year felt so comfortable and that's what you saw on the standings.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, so I wanted to ask, you know, with how things were so comfortable last year as far as their standings and now going to year three for Adam Peters, there's a particular player that he's well connected to and Jayden Davis, the quarterback, Brenna and I, you can San Francisco who a lot of people believe when the new lead year started that he would get release and Washington would immediately be able to add them to
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[SPEAKER_05]: the the plethora of guys that they have signed thus far this offseason.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are your particular thoughts from a financial standpoint of Washington not really wanting to play into the the waiting game for the release and possibly going into acquiring
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brendan Ayuk's contract says he's been paid 49 million since 2024 and the guarantee no longer exists because it's been avoided.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are your thoughts on acquiring that contract possibly instead of playing the release game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a crazy one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's so many layers to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go for an hour on this sucker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The contract is definitely acquireable, especially for a team, you know, like a New England, like a Washington that are looking for one guy, and if that guy slightly overpaid, that's fine, because the rest of the roster sort of built a handle that right now.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at a one for 27 for Brandon IU, because there's no, no guarantee he's going forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's an option bonus so that's becomes like an $8 million cap hit this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really doable for the receiving team, especially if it only takes like a seventh from pick swap, which I think it is, right?
20:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is the most obvious we're getting rid of this player that's ever existed in the NFL, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the other issue though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: San Francisco doesn't have to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, it behooves them to wait until June to do this because they're set up to take on a $20 million cap loss, whether they release them or trade them right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a tough situation for them.
20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll add another layer to this, which is, if you think it's hard trying to get a contract from John Lynch in San Francisco, watch how hard it's gonna be to get out of this contract in San Francisco.
20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're holding on to him
20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Not partially for the financials, but also partially, so that he doesn't get to just walk into Washington, which seems like is exactly what he wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think there's a lot going on here, drama and money, but the money side of it from Washington's standpoint, totally doable.
21:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Now for me, I wanna talk about someone who watches and just recently signed the act actually that a big is free in your neck position so far to this point in the off season.
21:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Oda Faye, oh wait, he said, well, when fans look at the contracts and I always like the extra contract expert, these things because when fans see a contract, they'll just see a 100 million, but like, oh, he's a hundred million dollar player, but can you actually talk about the structure of his contract and maybe how much he might realistically see over the duration of that contract?
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't have the 100% details, but I have enough to know what's happening here, which is it's definitely not 100 million, right?
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It can get to 100 million if everything absolutely goes perfectly.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is going to be a two for 50, and then we'll see, which is completely within, you know, where the valuations were on him, and I think that's a completely
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[SPEAKER_01]: doable time frame for his age and for what Washington is looking for.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not looking for deep dive contracts three, four years down the road because we know what's coming for Jaden Daniels here within the next 18 months or so.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So they have to be smart about the next three years of budgeting.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Two for 50 on what could be, you know, one of the top five to seven edge rushers in the game this year, which I think he's got a chance to graduate into is
22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been way worse than that.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it that way.
22:29
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you feel about, um, Drades, that was a good question.
22:32
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you feel about, uh,
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: the idea of teams like taking that gamble on the up and coming player and like giving them, like on paper is something that's like, you earned it, but at the same time it's like, you know, this is also a risk from us because we need you to work out and I think Washington isn't a spot where like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: the fact that they're lacking so much talent prior to this this all season they need these bigger scientists to come through and actually like be impact players how do you feel on on your your side of things like these teams making those those gambles or is it just a nature of a free agency?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, you're always going to pay the price, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The premium for free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's certain positions where it's just almost always worth the risk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And whether it hits or not, you've put your best foot forward, there are certain positions where teams are just saying, we're not even touching free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be drafting off-ball linebackers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be drafting into your offensive linemen because the prices in free agency have gotten to a point where that seems too much of a risk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But with an ad russia, with a quarterback, you know, we're talking about, you're talking
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[SPEAKER_01]: pain for maybe somebody's sealing they haven't reached yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no better example of that than Malik Willis in Miami right now who just secured 45 million guaranteed for basically six weeks of statistics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just what you have to do this time of year, sort of project how much you can risk financially for what you think that player is going to look like within your system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think it is worth it one or two times a year at certain positions inside of pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, I know we only have you for a limited time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think one of the bigger questions for this fan base is, how does an extension for Jaden Daniels, who many have already deemed to be the franchise quarterback?
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[SPEAKER_05]: What does that look like, you know, 18 months from now, with his mom now becoming certified and representing him?
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[SPEAKER_05]: how does that contract possibly look as we haven't seen a lot of quarterbacks hit that top market over the last two years because it hasn't really been quality enough quarterbacks to get that paid.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's pretty much the next guy up alongside Lamar Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How does that look from your vision as far as what you expect?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's certainly trying to follow the Mars footsteps here with the, you know, the mom kind of helping out with the contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously he looks a little bit like that on the field and the money's pretty much right there, you know, so the calculations for Jayden and really for a lot of the players that are sort of heading towards this next contract, Lamar notwithstanding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're right around that 55 million a year mark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now Lamar is important because I do think he's going to change this market in the next couple of weeks here dramatically 65 million a year maybe more because of where this salary cap is his age things like that leverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so if he takes things closer to that 70 million mark, then that's going to change.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to bring everybody else up with it, right?
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That we're talking CJ Strahd, Bohnnex, everything, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Drake may certainly Jayden Daniel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately, it does not pay to wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with this position because it's just so strong, so powerful, has so much leverage that every single time you turn around, you're losing another million or two a year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we're saying we're starting at 55, I would expect Jaden's foundation to be 60 million by the time he's sitting down with a pen and a pencil trying to negotiate this thing, but we are we're closing in on 70 million a year for quarterbacks and it's going to be very soon.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I just need like 2%.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Expected agency.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I got one last question for me.
26:26
[SPEAKER_06]: And in this question is for, we talked about Jada's contract.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Now, Jaden's biggest protector, he just signed his extension.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let me tell you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But first 30 million dollar a year office of Lyman, I mean, what does that kind of say about how the market is shifting towards that position?
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I left that position.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: All five of those offensive line positions are just blossoming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can't do wrong if you can hold off, you know, pressure,
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[SPEAKER_01]: with the quarterback position at any spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just got a center go 25 or 27 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got guards at 25, you know, approaching 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we've got right tackles at 28 and left tackles at 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just can't go wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great time to be protecting a quarterback right now.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The tonsled deal was inevitable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had leverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a high capital in his final year and he's still playing at a massively high level from a production standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the guy to do it and
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Michael, hopefully we can get you back going down the line if we do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: get a trade that I'm hoping we don't get.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not on this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not on the other side of trading or even acquiring our youth personally, but I appreciate you joining this Michael Janini, a sports track or a sports track, you can find them at a sports track as well co-founder and editor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to just give you the floor just to plug anything and everything that you got going on as well, boss, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're doing, you know, the A to Z here with Freedency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to go and plug and play, I you've gone to the Commander's roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got like a GM tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that with and see how the money works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe put together a late round trade if you want to do that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can make all this happen on our site whenever you want.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's do that for like a Devon H.A.ing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Startable.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Start a lot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, longs are gonna use the tool man definitely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate you Michael and Julia evening and stay safe I'll smack you down.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll say Michael.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks guys.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Alright, right there is Michael and then coming up fellas is Brian a record, but you know what time it is man in drama need to help you know
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, they're doing a 50% boost up to eight picks between three to eight picks for a college basketball as well as the NBA, but I'm not doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What I'm about to give out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not doing college basketball, even though Drake probably knows that a little bit more than me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're doing NBA.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna give you Drake four players, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: If we lose, this is all on Drake.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not my fault.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so let me refresh this because we do got a couple of games that's going right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll let's start with Phoenix and Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Devon Booker.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's at 27 and a half points.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you going to go higher or lower on 27 and a half for Devon Booker?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, like higher because of the matchup Anthony Edwards.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like on two shooting guards like that go against each other.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's a little bit extra motivation for the guy to perform.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So go a little bit over on Devon Booker.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, let's go to the other eight o'clock game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have I'm going to give you two because I just I just like these guys, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We want to start with Hardin Cleveland against Millwalkie Hardin is at 33 and a half points to rebounds in assist.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to go higher a lower.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go lower because Millwalkie can sometimes make these games tough as a late.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So let me go a little bit lower.
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[SPEAKER_06]: 25 and a half, uh, points higher or lower, oh, higher because I don't think anyone on the walking can really stop the image.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and let's close it out with the OG man Russell Westbook rebounds in the cyst 12 and a half, we're going to go higher or lower.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, even ball and leg, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's London.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's sufficient.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate you, John, this boss man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-oh, but all right, let me can we hear we can hear each other drink.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't hear everybody saying.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he can't hear he can't hear me or AJ or Drake.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I can't hear both of y'all can't hear AJ.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the only one who can't hear AJ.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Can you hear me?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Can you hear me now?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Can't hear.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's awesome, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: AJ, I'll leave you back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you back, I'll leave you
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[SPEAKER_04]: And in Jordan talked to you all about it, but I was thinking about it when we were confirmed to have Brian.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Drake, you've been around for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, you know, you know, you close it.
34:41
[SPEAKER_04]: You close to the 50, then you are 30.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm close to 35, then I'm 50.
34:48
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I've been thinking about is, you were drafted in Oman and it's incredible for some of the younger fans, I'm 32 and we didn't really have our own guy at the edge position.
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[SPEAKER_04]: before you got here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And around my age group, I think like you came along with Andre Carter, so you got to experience some time with him a little bit after Andre, you teamed up with Brian Arako, like we was able to see Jason Taylor towards Endis career and some other players around around that time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But you were the first guy that Washington drafted and said, hey, you take over
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[SPEAKER_04]: at the Edge position for Washington.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Does you have an idea of like what you were just coming into from an environment standpoint, like the city, what the team meant to people, and you being a first-round draft big with that meant for Washington?
35:56
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, I've got an idea of what you're talking about.
35:59
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, kind of when you start doing the history and you start going over the teams, when you're watching them, it's going to be a, you know, maybe a destination you start to do your history.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the one thing I noticed from my grip was how deep that history is with Washington and the fans and, you know, the whole world of fans are how dedicated, dial our fans are, you know,
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's one thing that really, really stood out and I loved it every, every chance of the way, whether it was good or bad, because we had a lot of bad too, but at the same time, the fans were always there to support each and every day, to every week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Man, they show nothing but love, you know, for guys that just play hard, you know, that was my moment.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to play hard.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to do the best I can for what I could in my position.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And man, yeah, it was it was it was a great ride, man, to be a part of for sure.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And right, let me let me ask you what, what did you run in your 40?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was a four six, man, low four six.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I hit the four five, but I was running at 60.
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[SPEAKER_07]: 2, 60, 3, 2, 65 when our first came out?
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[SPEAKER_07]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, I was moving for my size, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was a combat and protein?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I asked you that because this offseason, Washington, and sign a bunch of Nigerians, chicken, quanko, chalves, and men who and men Texas alone.
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[SPEAKER_05]: who is similar to you as far as like statue wise he's what six five you're like six three six four give it a two sixty uh... he ran a four five at his pro-day at Penn State how do you feel about that addition and you know for guys of your size and caliber coming off the edge
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[SPEAKER_05]: how difficult is it to have that type of Ben, you know, with that stature and carrying that type of weight, but also still being that athletic to do so.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, it's something you have to work at.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're crap, you know, it's not the same running around in college.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You can just run past people, you know, when you get to professionals, you know, you can play a 214 team team, but they have a pro-bowl, left, all pro-tacle, you know, that's gonna be bound to win all game.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So you gotta be able to bend the corners, you gotta be able to,
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[SPEAKER_07]: you know, combine your your your size with the strength you got to be able to mix it up That's something that you have to adapt that to when you were young kid coming out, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's something I have to learn
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[SPEAKER_07]: because I used to want to run through people, every single place.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I was my thing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was strong, and I just wanted to hit to, but then when they started studying over the years, you got to kind of figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what they're gonna have to do.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The young kids and young players coming in, figure it out, the playing in NFCE is gonna be a tough division.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, man, I think that the sky's a limit, I know it sounds cliche, but if they put, they, you know, they work on their craft,
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[SPEAKER_07]: And they get the job done and staying the way room and stay flexible.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Flexible is the number one thing in that position.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And when we're 260, we got to be forbidden like almost like a DB, or whatever the case thing to be, man, we're one of the more hybrid positions out there, because we have to do a little bit everything, whether that's coverage.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's rushing the positive, when it's dropping back plan, run, you got to do a little bit of everything,
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, so, Rack, I want to ask you because I co-host Maul, he asked us if you got it on what was our favorite or Rack poll moment when you were here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was able to name my pretty instantly, but I was wondering, do you have any that stood out for you, like your favorite time?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe just some good memories that you had here in Washington.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Man, honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I love, but besides playing and I'll get to the playing part, but just the city, man, the city, the fans that, that was, was captivated for me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was new.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm a, I'm a long, strong, state kid, you know, I'm from Texas, you know, we.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Were you a cowboy thing growing up?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now I'm from Houston, I'm gonna do it with the camera, but at the time growing up, we lost our team to Tennessee, they took our oilers, so we was kind of like left in the shuffle, so just what that being said when I get to DC.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Man, it was just like a family affair, man, and the fans was just, I remember they showed me the ownership showed me the whole stadium erupting my name, even before I even played a snap when I got drafted.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that was just, that meant everything to me, you know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I wanted to go out there and do the best I can, just go out there and make it imprint from day one.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Playing wise, man, the play that stood out, I'm gonna be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Did the only one that stands out for me personally because it was personal for me was the pick six that I had I've never had an Interception in my in my entire football career against Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They come let do me one It was tipball ran it from like 40 yards 30 yards having many yards.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was that was special me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I still got that game ball because again.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was my first pick six at all levels of playing football And it was very special to me, but we had a lot of good time, but we had a lot of bad times So you know that but so what for me For me, I had to go try to go out there and try to do the best I can and try to put the team on the back You know, it's certain situations
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, did they have the, uh, when you got there, um, now you were a little bit on a younger side.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did they have the pre-game, uh, any shot still flowing before the, before the games?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or was that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That might have been.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that might have been before my time.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I ain't here about that until all these, it's, you know, internet storage was going on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they started talking about him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's the Miami boys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was saying a lot to you like, I ain't play pro ball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I make it to note no college ball, but when I started playing, when I got older and flagged boy, you know, I said, I see why they did it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it made me feel good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's my little pre-game shot, you know, I didn't know who all of the locker room did it, so I figured.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, I'm trying to lose something.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, if I knew I wouldn't tell you, but I wouldn't tell you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wouldn't tell you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wouldn't fit on nobody, but now I mean, look, I ain't seen nothing, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All I think I'm going to have to do is compete, and that's all I think, so.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What about just like when you, I remember you had mentioned like the film study part and I think about like speaking of like conversations, um, I can't remember it verbatim, but Trent said Trent Williams has said at one point in his early on his career like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It took him, I think, maybe like the white going up against the white free New year somebody, where he, where he started to realize and that he had to start watching tape.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I do remember his rookie year, we played Indy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe that was something right there, but like at what point did you realize like the next level,
43:22
[SPEAKER_04]: that NFL is like, all right, now I got a, I got a, not only lock in, I got to take this to the next level to to become an even better player or better version and what I was when I got drafted.
43:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's a good, that's a good question.
43:35
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to say for me personally, just being an NFC, it's, it's a grind.
43:41
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a grind going up there against big big heavy said lineman, but the one challenge that I couldn't figure out was, uh,
43:48
[SPEAKER_07]: early on very early on was Jason Peters and Philly man that dude was a monster when it comes to what he did in his prime when he was rolling rolling he was hard to get it was hard to get around he was hard to I mean speed he had the speed he had the strength he matched you foot for foot someone's like a basketball player out there but he's a 300 plus pound line so
44:13
[SPEAKER_07]: I knew that that was gonna be a challenge.
44:16
[SPEAKER_07]: I knew that that was gonna be a challenge and I knew that this is what I, if I wanna be greater, if I wanna be really good for this team, really good for myself, this is guys I'm gonna have to be measuring myself up against.
44:28
[SPEAKER_07]: And he definitely was, I opened it for myself to kind of get back in the lab and figure out some new tools, figure out some stuff to get going.
44:40
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Raquel, I want to ask you real quick when it could just mention Jason Peters.
44:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Did a trip William's help you in practice?
44:45
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, me and Trinys are better than a lot, man.
44:48
[SPEAKER_07]: We've better than a lot all the time, man.
44:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Even when, but I've been battling our trenches over home.
44:53
[SPEAKER_07]: So I knew all about Trent and Trent knew all about me, um, and we used to always go at it.
44:59
[SPEAKER_07]: He's in every practice.
45:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, obviously, the older he got the more he took off to hold another level.
45:05
[SPEAKER_07]: But, man, we used to about all the time as soon as you got that day one man.
45:08
[SPEAKER_07]: There was a number of mutual respect, even till this day.
45:11
[SPEAKER_07]: Number of mutual respect and love for my boy Trent.
45:14
[SPEAKER_07]: And we talked about it all the time, like, I don't know how the hell he's still doing it, because he's doing it.
45:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
45:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he has crazy.
45:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, I wrote it off in the sunset, because I wanted to protect myself, my body, my mind, everything.
45:26
[SPEAKER_07]: But he's still rolling, man, a number of love to him, man.
45:29
[SPEAKER_07]: What is he's accomplished?
45:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, now let's get into a little bit of that sunset.
45:34
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, now that you're getting to see your sunshine, if you're going viral, Brian O'Wack called Junior, man, how has it been, you know, seeing this, this once little kid who I remember seeing around, now being able to stand up tall to you and doing this thing in high school and getting some promising looks as far as the collegiate level.
46:00
[SPEAKER_05]: How does that feel for yourself and Junior?
46:02
[SPEAKER_07]: It's fun, it's hell man, that's the main reason why I walk the way though, too, from the game because I want to be there to get ready to it for their journey not only for him, but for my daughter she's in big time club volleyball as well.
46:14
[SPEAKER_07]: But, man, a lot of people know outside of all the glitz and glamour with what we do, we miss a lot of time with our families.
46:22
[SPEAKER_07]: And that was a big for me, you know, and just my son, you see my son he was young and up and coming, just trying to, you know, just being a kid.
46:32
[SPEAKER_07]: He he wants to be his own man, you know, and ironically he's playing the same position.
46:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm playing.
46:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll stop back it rush in and he's doing this thing.
46:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I like Travis and Austin Texas.
46:44
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm excited.
46:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Just wanted to be there from the journey to thick thin and training.
46:50
[SPEAKER_07]: do whatever, give them some teeth, give them some keys, give them the blueprint to comfort someone with it.
46:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Show them the rope.
46:56
[SPEAKER_07]: I started early, early stage.
46:58
[SPEAKER_07]: I can't get too carried away because sometimes we feel like we won't be a professional next tomorrow, but you know, it's baby steps and he's learning and he's growing and I'm super, super proud of him.
47:12
[SPEAKER_07]: You personally, you, too?
47:15
[SPEAKER_07]: Man, I'm pushing them anyway, you want to go.
47:18
[SPEAKER_07]: They got some good, and I don't want to go there.
47:20
[SPEAKER_07]: Anyways, it doesn't do you think you?
47:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Florida's taking use of Edge Russian.
47:25
[SPEAKER_06]: What's that?
47:26
[SPEAKER_06]: I said Florida's taking use of Edge Russian, Shane was blown here.
47:31
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, what's the, what's the, what happens though?
47:33
[SPEAKER_07]: Man, he's still got to put the work here.
47:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, he got a junior senior that he got to put it in.
47:37
[SPEAKER_07]: So, what's the, what happens?
47:39
[SPEAKER_07]: If he don't have the business, I mean,
47:41
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, so you got to go out there and start cooking.
47:45
[SPEAKER_06]: What's that like so far, right?
47:47
[SPEAKER_06]: I know you still say he still has his junior senior year to prepare for, but as a parent, I know you went through it as a student athlete when you were in high school.
47:56
[SPEAKER_06]: But what's it like so far, been on the other side of that, what the other side of that as far as been a parent, which was suddenly getting some of those big time college offers.
48:05
[SPEAKER_06]: How do you handle that?
48:06
[SPEAKER_06]: That's hard as hell.
48:09
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I don't know how people obliterate that and just watch games and just I try like I'm getting better at it But it's so hard for professional athletes because you see so much wrong and technique and things like that and you just Man long story short.
48:31
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the work in progress, man.
48:32
[SPEAKER_07]: What would be watching my kids play, but it's fun is hell man.
48:36
[SPEAKER_07]: This is what I
48:37
[SPEAKER_07]: retired.
48:38
[SPEAKER_07]: I wanted to be a part of them with what they journey.
48:41
[SPEAKER_07]: And like I said, it's a working progress because my wife's cousin me out to shut the hell up, you know, on the top line, let them do a thing.
48:49
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's, it's, it's but it's fine, man.
48:52
[SPEAKER_07]: They, they go out there competing many plays on a great squad.
48:55
[SPEAKER_07]: My daughters and competitive volleyball.
48:58
[SPEAKER_07]: We take off the St. Louis in a little bit to go compete.
49:02
[SPEAKER_07]: So, man, it's just been a great journey, man.
49:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Great journey.
49:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think so did the thought of retirement or just even
49:14
[SPEAKER_04]: getting in a league and getting out as soon as you feel as right, like, was that always your plan?
49:21
[SPEAKER_04]: So I feel like in Tennessee, and my opinion, I feel like you went up another notch when you went to Tennessee and I don't know how it ended there, like that's kind of foggy for me.
49:34
[SPEAKER_04]: But I feel like you're career there.
49:36
[SPEAKER_04]: you did even better from a production standpoint and with the titans so like was it a idea of yours to always just do a certain amount of time and transition on or was that something that she just thought about as your career went on?
49:52
[SPEAKER_07]: 100%.
49:52
[SPEAKER_07]: 100%.
49:54
[SPEAKER_07]: I always wanted to do double digits.
49:56
[SPEAKER_07]: 10 years was mine with my number.
49:59
[SPEAKER_07]: To speak to answer your question, I finished my deal.
50:01
[SPEAKER_07]: I was on the last year.
50:03
[SPEAKER_07]: My deals variables first year, I walked in variables office the next day after week.
50:07
[SPEAKER_07]: cut out when the AFC family ship AFC South, and I said, hey, it rains, I'm done.
50:14
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like that.
50:15
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't want to give my stuff all summer to think about it and start getting back in the safe.
50:19
[SPEAKER_07]: All that that goes along with it.
50:21
[SPEAKER_07]: I was walking to the GM's office and faith office and told them my plans and that I'm hanging it up.
50:27
[SPEAKER_07]: I just that was always my plan.
50:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Again and get out, you know, I have my habit, you know, you're gonna head on my stuff back because when y'all out
50:37
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a lot of people that's hurting that man in this game, you know, and I wanted to make sure that you know I would be fortunate enough to not be hanging on or when I don't have to you know So that's that was my main goal for day one.
50:52
[SPEAKER_07]: You didn't get out save your bread stack it up
50:55
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, try to do the best you can, not everybody's blessed to play in Super Bowls and win all these championships and this and that and but I was blessed to, you know, go on and have a call at the back nine of my career because I have the front nine watched in the back nine with Tennessee, it's still finished out strong and do and, you know, kind of rejuvenate my career and and just and keep it going.
51:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Not a lot of people can do that.
51:19
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm super proud of that.
51:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And Brian, I just want to give you the floor man, talk about like, are you, I think you are you still doing the the business with the cupcakes in today's last year, it's been, it was an asking about that in the chat as well.
51:34
[SPEAKER_04]: So definitely interested out there, what, what type of the adventures are you up to these days and let the people know what, what things you got playing.
51:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it really nothing much, man.
51:47
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I said, I'm training my boys.
51:49
[SPEAKER_07]: My kids really making some of the top of them with that.
51:53
[SPEAKER_07]: We did do a Cupcake franchise out here, and that Austin ever since that we've been doing mentoring and speaking engagements and things like that, just engaging with people that always had dreams to do something outside of the box.
52:06
[SPEAKER_07]: That's kind of been myself.
52:08
[SPEAKER_07]: And another team made Michael Griffin, he was a former long one safety for the NFL for a long time.
52:14
[SPEAKER_07]: We got, we partnered together and that's what we've been doing ever since.
52:17
[SPEAKER_07]: We got the brick and mortar around, but it's mainly just the engagement with people that want to, that really want to, you know, take it, take the take.
52:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Get outside the element, you know, we turn football players and we put our aprons and we start
52:37
[SPEAKER_07]: as far as how much that grew and so we just been it's it's the cupcake guys that we created and we just been rolling the problem with that my other business partner with the college with them for a long time Brian hence I want to give him a shout out cuz he's a big integral part of this business that we got going as well and just man just silently investing then silently investing saving up and just you know living life man just living life much as much as I want to
53:08
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, AJ, I know.
53:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, I mean, for the for the Washington fans, you know, make sure to go to biggametravel.com.
53:21
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... deansual haul and brine a raccoe will be in london for the washington game as they host and london the season uh... the date is an official yet but you can go and check out the site and uh... you know purchased your ticket and being involved with what they have going on and get an opportunity to mix and mingle with brine and dehal in london uh... as washington takes over a lot of you were there for Madrid uh... make sure to come out this time in london is going to be amazing time
53:50
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I know me in the trapper dive crew and also Brian look forward to seeing you guys and meeting some of you individuals as well.
54:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Brian, did you go to Spain?
54:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Was you on Madrid or did this?
54:04
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't make that.
54:05
[SPEAKER_07]: I make that trip.
54:06
[SPEAKER_07]: But there's longer one.
54:06
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not the only special man.
54:08
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm on this one deal.
54:09
[SPEAKER_07]: My brother's on that one.
54:11
[SPEAKER_07]: So this is going to be fun.
54:13
[SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully, I don't not show what we play though yet.
54:16
[SPEAKER_07]: But uh, you know, with those being the home game, then it's gonna be fun.
54:19
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna fight.
54:21
[SPEAKER_07]: It's fun, no, run this for I don't know if y'all be it.
54:24
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
54:42
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
54:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, man, we're out of our pre-says you joined in Shopify.
54:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It's always a good opportunity and pleasure to get to chop it up with former red scans and people who've done great things with Washington and just with the fans in general.
54:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So I just want to say thank you.
54:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously we'll probably see each other down the road with the London Connect.
55:05
[SPEAKER_04]: but be safe.
55:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Good luck to a little man, your little man.
55:10
[SPEAKER_04]: As you continue just high school journey, you know, go see you.
55:13
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next time.
55:15
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, fellas, I appreciate your time for having me, man.
55:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so I appreciate you, bro.
55:19
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, man.
55:19
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, boss, man.
55:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sir.
55:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a two-part box and she thanks to a rock quote great work on the field Definitely Yeah, all the way was for three.
55:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I want me when he checked.
55:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even know he ran a four or three.
55:35
[SPEAKER_05]: That's crazy Yeah, you need even four three.
55:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Say four.
55:38
[SPEAKER_05]: I need you Thank you for three.
55:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Was this that combine or pro day not a human problem?
55:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, pro day.
55:45
[SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, you only ran bro.
55:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was four times on hand stand state was with that because Lord for three
55:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, funny enough though.
55:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually agree with what money ball that's saying, um, I started watching, oh, way, uh, money ball, um, and that's kind of, that is, it's noticeable.
56:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he really, he really got, he's like narrow.
56:07
[SPEAKER_04]: He's in, I don't know, like the right way, but he's pretty narrow.
56:09
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not necessarily a vendor.
56:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a friend.
56:12
[SPEAKER_05]: He, you don't play up right and play with his hands and maybe hit you with a little spin move, but then
56:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I was going to say Jason is the bender of the group that they said, well, Lisa, the answer is that they probably had.
56:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he got some speed, though, like his pursuit is there, like he's going to close the, he's going to close the space stiff.
56:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why I couldn't say stiff.
56:35
[SPEAKER_04]: They did, but yes, he certainly stiff, but yeah, I was in a conversation.
56:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know how much time we had with Brian Iraq, so I just figured,
56:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we ain't going to do too much.
56:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully we get around closer to the game time with London.
56:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm or in London, but that was a good conversation.
56:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I really wanted to bring up the comment against the Giants on Thursday night.
57:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't think it was.
57:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it was a good one.
57:04
[SPEAKER_04]: You brought that.
57:05
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just me and Drake.
57:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know the I don't remember this.
57:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember that he was my number.
57:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember this.
57:12
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember this black.
57:14
[SPEAKER_04]: That was me.
57:15
[SPEAKER_04]: So AJ, it was a game, it was the year before he left, so I had to be like, I think he left in 2014, right?
57:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Or 2015, um, and Eli was killing Washington that day, bro, and the coach, the coaches on the sideline, going through the game plan, but at this thing, a record sheet, hey coach,
57:44
[SPEAKER_04]: We can't stop this motherfucker.
57:46
[SPEAKER_04]: He can't kill on us.
57:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, bro, I couldn't help, I couldn't help, but that has to be on NFL films or something, but like that was, because that was my first thing when I think about Brian Iraq all night, this is not even like the time that he had in Washington.
58:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the fact that Eli Manning really used to just dull these niggas defensively, bro, and like, for him to say that, I wonder what he, I wonder how they felt about Mike Vick.
58:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, those were hard times because even for me, I know what we'll have him on here, soon the Angela Hall, like one of the greatest games I've ever seen from an NFL perspective was the Philly game Monday night against Washington.
58:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And it wasn't because it was my team as the other side.
58:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like the trash talk I know Dehal was having with Vett, leading up to it, the Sean Jackson and the Ryan Landry going back and forth.
58:46
[SPEAKER_05]: First play out the gate was with like an 85 yard pass.
58:51
[SPEAKER_05]: for six, and they just kept going, it was just like a relentless attack that Andrew Reed was just like going after Washington.
59:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen nothing like that before in my life, and it was just like the resurgence of Mike, because he had just got out of jail like a year before and now taking over the team.
59:12
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, it means it's definitely been some great moments that I'm glad that we were able to give Rack on here, it doesn't do many interviews, or whatever.
59:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry for the quality for the viewers.
59:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know how to fix it on his hands.
59:27
[SPEAKER_04]: So I just let it rock.
59:28
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's probably like a connection thing.
59:31
[SPEAKER_04]: So a little grainy for the viewers.
59:33
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't think it's just home.
59:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It may be.
59:37
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it was, it was, it was probably just bad internet in general, but it is, but it is, at any day, just glad we was able to get them on here.
59:46
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys asked some amazing questions.
59:51
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, man, it's just another perspective of a Washington great.
59:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I was just really intrigued because I feel like him and Odafe always have similar body types.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I did not know that Pro Day Penn State for OA, they clocked them at a 43.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_05]: That's scary, bro.
1:00:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you imagine somebody 65, 66, 265, 270, run that you at a 43 speed?
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not kidding, it's the, I don't know how much you weighed there, but I'm, you know, I got some higher demand for those.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, for three and he played with Michael Parsons, Parsons ran for late.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_06]: No, he, you know, Parsons shouted him out as one of the most underrated age Wresherson NFL today.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, maybe that was he's a two fifty two fifty seven.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, they'll wow for him to run a fourth That's a six or two fifty seven, bro.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_06]: He's out of the three hell
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Like as he may not be the vendor, you know, that natural vendor in the edge, but he's athletic as hell.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you can see this.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can see this being straight line, like whether he's going, like, louder, leave a chase now, whether he's going vertically to chase now.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_04]: You can see it like that.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_04]: That's that's it.
1:01:06
[SPEAKER_04]: When he closed the space is it's sudden and it's, it's, well, wait, before we get out of here, can I show this?
1:01:12
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, do y'all have a favorite free agency setting so far up until this point.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I mean, technically that would that make it would this be like, uh, a glimpse into like our number one for the agency signing if we would do the rankings or that it like the the favorite doesn't necessarily qualify as your number one.
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's a lot of budget.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyone, maybe somebody just just gave me at this point.
1:01:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:01:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I think for me, I'll go real quick.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I got I got like a tie like I love that chicken quanko was picked up.
1:01:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_05]: From even the fantasy standpoint, I'm not a fantasy player, right?
1:01:52
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think you got to throw out the numbers that he had in Tennessee and just think of the projections that he's going to have with Washington and J.D.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_05]: and Daniels.
1:02:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Here, you're talking about a guy that can line up at tight end and also why receiver and be impactful.
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Adolfo Owe, man, Washington's been lacking the past Russia that they can count on for a very long time.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_05]: and you're hoping that all of these traits and in this scheme put it all together and truly reach his real potential.
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even pay too close to the attention to his contract.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So even hearing from you know, spell track, AK, Michael, that essentially a two year $50 million deal.
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a bargain.
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It is, let's go ahead and give Clifton here as a shout-out.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Came here at 12, I want to make sure that he's seen on the show.
1:02:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Please continue with your messages, Clifton.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you hit a like button, do not hit anything else.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I would also subscribe and like it.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, he is.
1:03:00
[SPEAKER_04]: There's only one person in one fan base who will put the Giants at number one.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_04]: What is the last time that you're going to use?
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_06]: Which is crazy to say, because we normally are not crazy to say that, right?
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_06]: We jazzed on this.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I really was thinking like, who is my favorite B?
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, even before you asked that question, because I was saying, I'm like, it's not five.
1:03:22
[SPEAKER_04]: My favorite may be Chanel or Chanel or whatever it was named,
1:03:30
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, I have no sense at all for you, Mom.
1:03:33
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that would have been your favorite.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Just go like, yeah, just like I got the guest right.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you were close.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I know, yeah, I know what they need it.
1:03:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, drop in and, um, um, and the young boy knew and they won't get that shit done, they need it too.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe Chanel.
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think that second level is just as important.
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_04]: They did a lot of good work on the front 7 so I think maybe Chanel, maybe my favorite just because I have that decision on this is the opportunity for him where he like he gets to come out of the depth in terms of like having that full time role in the sense.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's your name, A, so I think maybe Chanel and his in a situation where he gets more exposure.
1:04:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, that could be risk and reward type deal, but I think Chanel is probably going to Chanel's one flourish, whatever.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_05]: What uh, before we do get out of here, now that you mentioned Chanel a little bit more, I was thinking about it and I was trying to just like put together in my head like how
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Chanel is a better Frankie Louvre, so what do you do with my thing Chanel Chanel plays everywhere he's on the edge and he could play in the three four he could play inside linebacker he's literally lined up everywhere so in my opinion I think
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Chanel is a better Frankie Louvre as far as like instance wise playing playing the run and then pass wise you got better cover skills, but I'm like how can you how do you put both of these guys on the field together at the same time?
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Now I was gonna say he sings a bit more versatile than a Frankie Louis.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_06]: I know they do pretty much the same things, but Chanel had a better level, but I think when you talk about adding to that the past coverage on which Chanel can bring you a next standpoint.
1:05:34
[SPEAKER_06]: And then especially when you're talking about it, the Rante Jones is in running the three four, because I don't see Frankie playing that middle that often in there.
1:05:42
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean Chanel, I don't think he's a micro anything, but he could play in that middle of the field just because he can't cover, he does have that speed.
1:05:49
[SPEAKER_06]: at the end of the day.
1:05:50
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Frankie Louvre might just have to get in with he fits in at this point, because this is of the Rotate Jones deep.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_05]: That might be the bench for another 10, bro, because like, because at the end of the day, you know, the last year is deal.
1:06:03
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, this last year is deal, but it's like, if you break if we sit down and look at the front seven, you're talking about
1:06:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Inside, you're going to put Chanel at the inside.
1:06:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't really know if you want Louvre playing inside and then the other opposite end.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know what dormitory's on strong fits.
1:06:29
[SPEAKER_04]: But when we talk starter wise, I actually don't think like I think that I think those are good problems though.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely because like I agree with you saying in terms of like where do they fit?
1:06:43
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that also has to like the depth that derontate needs.
1:06:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, granted, they're probably going to be some people maybe, um, but I can see it.
1:06:52
[SPEAKER_04]: There's probably going to be some people at this point that's like, you know, that may ask for their release by later, like, and there's always going to be surprised because and training can't be preseason, right?
1:07:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's just the nature of a child things go, um, and maybe that this fits that that umbrella, right?
1:07:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but I think to have these pieces is to figure out exactly what they do in your defense.
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and Louisville is, is one of those where it's like, what, what does he do?
1:07:22
[SPEAKER_04]: But also like, don't worry, so I don't see any other situation where he's just, I mean, he's just along the front seven.
1:07:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the front line, not the front seven, but he can play a lot of places except for your
1:07:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I don't think he's played that much in nine, but that's what oh wait wait.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_04]: He played nine.
1:07:44
[SPEAKER_04]: So like he's played.
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_04]: He plays along the line.
1:07:47
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just a band, but I don't know.
1:07:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know where Louisville is right now, but it's a good question.
1:07:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but I was just going to say when it comes to a door, a song, a song and even a Dietrich wise.
1:08:00
[SPEAKER_06]: We have to see with those guys return after injury.
1:08:02
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, those are pretty significant injuries.
1:08:04
[SPEAKER_06]: These guys had and
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_06]: especially for Dietrich Wise, he's on the wrong side of 30.
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's what we need to get back on the show.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, we did have a last year.
1:08:14
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what we see on Dietrich.
1:08:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Now that he resigned, yeah, because it looked like it looked like he did.
1:08:20
[SPEAKER_05]: He did like some sparring and he invited J.P. Finley to, I don't know what that was about.
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_05]: We want to fight J.P.
1:08:29
[SPEAKER_05]: not it was like JP was there while he was like rehab and like but part of his rehab was like sparring and it was just JP that was there so I don't know what's going on on his end but now he's returning.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think we've learned a lot from an office at standpoint in the past couple of days what this is going to look like.
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Learn me tonsil, you know, gave his answer today and his presser about more understanding or stuff, similar to Bobby Slowick, Nick Allegretty.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_05]: gave his, his, I'll take on the O line play and how, how they'll be from an office at standpoint.
1:09:10
[SPEAKER_05]: But defensively, no one has outwardly came out and said how the Rante plans to utilize them.
1:09:19
[SPEAKER_05]: It might be strategic.
1:09:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, they talk schemas that like that, but even on both sides, like I already later, we talked about the office today, um, and he said, like, it's, it's play action based wild zone scheme under center, things like that nature, um, so I think all of that it's going to be nuggets as the season moves forward.
1:09:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, all right.
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, look, that's going to wrap it up for us, uh, pre-cated by who watched solo Kenny, uh, said his free agent, favorite free agent, sign up with Nick Crosse.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to do our rankings next week.
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do our top five, think about that on and whatever, this week may even help.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Excuse me, because we made make another sign on it too.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, we'll cross that bridge when we get there, but think about your favorite, free agent signings, shoutouts at Michael, Genety, a Spotryack for coming on and job as some, some good nuggets.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_04]: If you missed that part, go to the first half of the show.
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Shoutouts that obviously, Brian O'Rackbow, UT legend, former Washington Rearskin, former Tennessee Titan, shout out to Rodel.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_04]: That's his mom right there.
1:10:32
[SPEAKER_04]: So next time man, y'all take it easy and oh, I'm sorry.
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_04]: She'll come up with a film session coming out this week Should have said that in the beginning, but there we are made of this bar Take it easy with out of here and drill you like
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna play good for the longer you're gonna put it up You're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in Don't be looking for the left you don't know flags in Keep down man on, keep the police tight You the type you want to win by any means right You should look alive, this is trapping down