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Washington parts ways with Matt Gay, Priority re-signings? CRod takeover? · Trap or Dive

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• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's good, man.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, I saw him much better.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: My first drink in week, so I'm back.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, this man, no, I do a podcast at seven and he knows that we have a show at eight o'clock so why are you calling me, bro?
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what ain't cool lady.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's your little red.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's it's red.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually trying.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I usually something at the crib, I don't go too hard sometimes.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes I mix, I mix my tequila with cranberry.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying a cranberry strawberry.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it's like it's the same zone that come on like the cranberry camp, but this zone is nasty shit that little cranberry strawberry John was nasty, but I don't know.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to experiment, but I'm like, yo, you know what I'm I'm just I'm after this one.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm drinking street.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what was funny about to kill a bro?
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can only drink to kill a vampire.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can not drink to kill a just like in the house chilling like to kick a fine drink to kill a Is going to be a hell of a night.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's how I look at to kill it.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look I get it.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Someone some some is the social some is the you know I just want to lounge around or I just need a little sip on some It depends bro like I got a lot like I'm trying to escalate on right now.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: So okay
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's something I definitely, I drink when I go out.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a mess alone.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: See, I'd be like, pull the shots, give me a tequila shot.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what you know I'm done.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Once I had a tequila shot, the night's over.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Monty, you son of a ladies, first off, that's funny.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I told him that.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that I don't drink juice or soda and like I still feel like that's accurate.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't drink juice or soda by self.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I only do it if I if I'm mixing the drink.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't drunk juice or soda by a century since I was in undergrad, which is like,
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about like 2014, 2015.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a drinkin' drinkin' drinkin' just water.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I drink when you drink it.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just water.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I drink only drink water.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then if it's time to turn it by the drink, I go.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: But my day to day is just, it's literally just water.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's nothing else.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come in, that's me most days, but I ain't my lot of you, bro.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got to have at least one liquid-dev sweet tea every day.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: The only guy says crazy, it's a, it's a, it's a little joint.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's an actual sweet tea.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a sweet tea, but it comes in like the little tall, like can't look like an Arizona can't, or it looks like beer, actually.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: But it's got a low sugar, but it's good as a mug, bro.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't like sugar too much, so if I drink something that's shitty, you gotta be low.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay, Kenny said what's up, Kenny, Kenny said that's a keyless special man.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good vibes during depends, bro.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand some evil people often to kill him, bro.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I saw a look, bro.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's a few things to discuss.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess let's get this.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's get the hot topic out of the way.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Derek Forrest tweeted, made a tweet recently within like the last hour that made me just pop a topic in my head.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, this is me.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I led the world to it, you know.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: He retweeted it when my parents found out his last name was Forrest.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So where am I at?
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so first mega.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: We found that out after the game.
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people had their phone with me on Twitter because I was like, right, there's no way they're kicking.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're not cutting Matt Gay.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, y'all might as well just get used to this dude.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And not even three hours later, they cut them.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like, he's out of there.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, you know, already cost you a couple games.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, in my line of thinking, good for them,
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what good does it do now?
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, does that bring them boost them all right or up?
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, does it help the fan base out?
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and I'm not saying they shouldn't have done it, but more so in the sense of all the knowledge, they just waited too late.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: They should have been cut them.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's kind of like the story that is sees it in a sense like everything's having it too late like I mean they're probably going to end up playing Jamie and Terry and the whole game's going to be back together when you had a playoff attention.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I want you to actually was surprised how they cut them in season.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was going to lead the next year because they're like at this point.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, the money's already guaranteed and that kind of thing.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know maybe maybe they wanted one less thing for fans to be coming at them about because I mean that's beyond this.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: This was a big miss by Adam Peters.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean he hasn't got the kicker position right since he's been here.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, we already talked about, you know, the trials of chip relations they have last year with the kickers, they got branded manuses going to be the guy they're working with a couple other guys.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then you think you bring in Matt Gaye, you give him guaranteed money, hasn't been bad in his NFL, but she didn't just go good here.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: And kickers don't get along to a leash in this league.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's just the reality of the situation.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Especially like I said, when you're seeing pictures going out here, it started in the 60-yard field goes looking for a team.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And everything beyond 50 for Matt Gaye just looked like a player.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jake Moody from a 49er who Adam Peters was there for when he drafted them, but he's been further than two, you know, so it's not our own thing.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, better than 50.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, you know, I mean, what for the rest of the season, you're just going to have him maybe he auditioned well, maybe not, but I think you're going to be in a situation when you come next August, that you're going to have to have some kind of kicker competition going on.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think at this point, a new name is better than Matt Gay.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so I think to deal with this for six games, uh, it's cool.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think from from both standpoints from a fan base standpoint, I call it, uh, a new, a new kicker kind of gets the dolls off from a little bit.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then from a team standpoint, it's like, all right, we'll look where our season, you know what it is.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: We ain't making it to the playoffs, but just,
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: just don't don't look terrible.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like this is your opportunity to redeem yourself.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: For those who are unfamiliar.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: with Moody.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Moody.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was eight of nine.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: He came from the Chicago Bears practice squad.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was eight of nine on field.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go to sense this season on three or three on extra points.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was obsessed, right?
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: He played against us and he also he was released by the nine as that's where he came from prior to the Bears.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Those six games that he has against, but that he has for Washington, he had to fight or Debo, maybe, have gotten to a fight with Moody before.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't think, Debo is in any type of move to be fighting.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jake, so for his work and for his sake, you can miss as many as you want.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think people knows the season is over, so I think he's safe and in terms of being harmed by his teammates.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, not that's all the way.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think about priority signage, right,
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's revisit some former teammates, or excuse me, former commanders that have moved on to different areas, right?
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cam Curl, let go, went to LA.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Manion Forbes, let go, it's been in LA.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Therefore, it's let go, went to Buffalo.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I actually don't know exactly where Derek Forbes is right now because he wasn't, he wasn't in Buffalo for long.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, uh, so Derek Ford's made this tweet today, and I, I would retweet to some of it like a thousand times, granted, I don't think he's the best cover safety in the position that Ron had them is like this post safety, right?
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's like a box guy.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in a sense, but the tweet that he made.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Lord Jesus, let me share my screen.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm saying Twitter and Cloud at the same time.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, here we go.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is what he's at.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all let the clowns on X, Convince Y'all, I couldn't cover or tackle.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we know what this was a tweet about.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think about since you not necessarily dare force, but he is in the mix, right, but like, there's people.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I said it a thousand times on this show before I don't know if there's a right or wrong, I think in due time will know.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, we'll have a solid opinion on Adam Peters decision making, right?
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair enough.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like in due time, I'm talking about year three, year four.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: If he makes it to year four, because they can, this all season, you gotta see.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we'll see where it goes.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: But my thing is when I think about how things have gone from the previous regime, they were quick to get rid of anybody and everybody associated with the prior regime.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm only a few people made the cut moving forward.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Therefore is then made the cut.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can't grow then made the cut.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Brian Robinson got lucky, but ultimately they wanted more out of that position.
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• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the problem with the NFL, and this is a widespread thing is you don't really be this era specifically.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't really have a lot of time to judge players.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: They need more.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, the development, if a guy isn't great or if a guy doesn't look, I'll show you flashes of great out the breaks, everyone's ready to move on from them.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then the problem is you got a new regime that comes in.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: They don't.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: They typically knew where James went their own guys.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: They want to lose or win with their own guys.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what I kind of caution fans, you know, some fans of the chat, you know, like AJ, you know, he's not here, but they don't like to fight Adam Peters.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you probably will find yourself in two years.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's say you find Adam Peters after this year.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: You'll probably find yourself in two years with a new regime who came in and looked at Adam Peters roster and got rid of all these guys and blah, blah, blah.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then you gonna have fans to go, oh, Josh Kyle, he up here balling for the Ramses new regime, they know what they do them.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that's why I say for me, I like to let this regime release get a couple of, you know, maybe a year or two more that it felt.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: the same what it is because at the very least I do think this regime or any regime that drags their own players or brings their own guys in they're going to kind of see those guys up especially the young guys they're going to kind of see them through and let them develop before they say yeah we're going to we don't have anything in this guy but when you come into a roster look at the whole roster for the top down I didn't draft this guy in draft this guy that you make it a first look at him and say hmm yeah we can get rid of this guy that's probably what happened
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: came curls a little different, because he was a free agent when they came in.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Those are more going from them.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was just it, honestly.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not the same.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now just like as you then you could have let them like test the market But like he was a productive player and for him to go to LA and and be a starter for what the last two three years I don't remember how long it's been two years.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry for him to be a starter for the last two years
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now I want to tell you just how valuable another team like feels that he is and he's on the Ram's defense that is a top 10 defense in NFL and he's starting safety and he's been there starting safety and in in Cam's case I mean I want to give him a little leeway to say they probably didn't want to commit to long-term funds or at least a more than a two-year deal with a guy that they were sure about you know and I think about how it's
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was just going to say to be fair to them, they didn't miscame curl last year because I mean you had Jeremy Channing you had caught Martin the problem is this year you let Jeremy Chan walk you bring a little Harris eat his hair now everybody at the sink the position looks bad never get we're back to talk about can curl
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So no, so so I understand that angle right and like from that perspective I completely agree with you because it's like what about isms or what if whatever that term is called right, but the idea of committing to camp curl.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't for Asian, but the idea of committing to camp curl and you get them on a two or three year deal guess who's still your strong safety.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: came girl.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's can't curl.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to worry about signing dudes to win your deals.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, that's kind of the, the, the, the conundrum that Washington faced earlier on, and they had the, they had decisions to me.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, like, I want to reiterate for people as a listen to this conversation, because I don't like when people, like, go about to the past about certain things and certain decisions.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um,
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: that they went through when they took over.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like, that's a big deal.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: They essentially said that the entire roster prior to them taking over wasn't good enough, which happens to be true.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: But was everybody bad?
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, so I was like, now we look at those guys and we see like, what could you have stabilized in certain positions and I think that that is kind of worth a conversation at the very least, um, it's just like thinking about that, um, not to not to develop on it because you got to look forward to like Will Harris is eventually coming back.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to play it.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to play a couple of games and see them.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how how many is going to play.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, he's in that practice window.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's gonna play a couple of games this year and I think he's actually on a two year deal.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you have an opportunity with Will here is to, you know, help shape things.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Man, you're Forbes.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's getting a lot of attention because like, you know, he's an algorithm now, honestly, Jerry.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a lot to you.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's having a solid season, but like, I do think that's a person.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Two things, I don't think you miss him.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't miss Emmanuel Ford's personally.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think what happens when you have him is like, you at least get to hang on to a first round pick and see where he goes if you at least played out the full length of his contract.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's not to say that what he's doing in LA now, he would have ever, ever came to fruition here in Washington.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm also saying,
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: What would that have looked like if they would have gave Forbes more time or even invested more from a coaching standpoint to make sure that he was on point.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of where I met with with Forbes.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I personally don't miss him.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I am happy that he's doing well.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he played a little bit less, I think even that in a section last year, one of the games, the Carolina game, but they never, oh, no, no, my bad.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure I'm sure, but not to have a, yeah, whatever, whatever, whatever those games, he ended up having a pick and one of those games.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, but in
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think a lot of fans are probably talking about it in the manual for us, because you see him kind of going out there and LA, he's making plays, and you look at this deep, because you don't really have any play makers, like even we talk about Mikey Sangris, they're who's at a bad year, but we're all like, well, he's the only guy that can make a play on the ball.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, this one of those things like I said, when things aren't going well, you start looking around and saying, well, where'd it be go or all the who to be let go?
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I just think what
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: those one year deals on like a Jeremy Chen that being here.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is where Adam Peter.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is going to get interesting for Josh Harris and Adam Peters because the philosophy has to change this fridge seat.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you could go into this fridge seal it is all season with the plan to be.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to have all one year deals and we're going to kind of see call these one year deals.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to really have to go out there and start solidifying guys that you feel like you can be a part of your roster for years.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't mean go out there and get the old guys because that's what they've been kind of going there.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to stop get rough.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to one year contract rough.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's because they don't want to tie a fund or so for the next couple of years.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: But what you can do is you can't go out there and you can't have another season like you did this season, especially when you got the quarterback that you think you have.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you want to go out there and you want to be competitive and you also want to have death because this season is shown
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: which we have we've stood a lot we've had a lot of injuries probably more so than a lot of other NFL teens if not more than every other NFL team.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: But Washington couldn't withstand those injuries at all because the death wasn't there and we knew the death wasn't there.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: We would just hope that we were going to get hit with the injury but which we have you know so let's put it this way.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's give our
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've affected Andrew's way on the season's demise.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: What percentage do you give to Andrews?
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you have to say at least 50%, because when you talk about the Andrews, you're talking about the hooves.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we talked about the death.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: But when you got a jaded names missing most of your games, and this was the guy who we all said, this is the one who's cooking at the very least, put the team on his back and he can make everything go.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: He can make all systems go.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I had a lot of jaded names this year.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a big impact.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Terry McClellan, the guy who had the off-season hold out to best my receiver and the football team, he's playing with three games this whole season, you know, I mean, but at the end of the day, you still don't expect to be as bad as you are with the injuries, because you do have a solid back accordion, but you have one of the best back accordion backs in the NFL.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, Marcus Mario, if it's still going off there, when you're a gamer too, when you need it,
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, but the problem is, you know, everything else just didn't look concise.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you didn't look, I didn't see the same urgency from this team as I seen last year.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I say, urgency, that starts with the coaches that we talked about this going all way back to the Green Bay Packers game all the way, we were pissed, you know, doing the post game review.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, man, why didn't Dan Quinn have better talk management here?
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why do we kick a field goes and we normally go for four full ones here?
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the defensive scheme, well, I mean, just a defensive and general, they took a step back and they weren't good last year.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, injuries are not.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: You guys running wide, open, most played.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got guys confused, the most snaps in.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, two guys chasing one receiver.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: leave a word receiver open.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not talent.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's just something meant to completely meant to an a lot of stuff was meant to an issue.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not injuries or anything.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: You just didn't, you just lost a assignment now, who that's owned, whether it's coaching, you know, re-land, you know, whatever whether that's the place.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not a talent issue.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's something that's meant to.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's something that made these schematically related.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, some you probably have to put that is 25%.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: But for the most part injuries, I'm going to definitely say injuries is 50% at the most.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, because that's that's the big ill patcher.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you can't do a lot with what Washington lost it.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe some things were better
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I watched it didn't have the death, so watch it take a good withstand what they went for so you got to put injuries pretty high up then we talked about the percentage of lane chart issue.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, shout out to the money ball because he gave me a compliment.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know what he's talking about, but I'm gonna go ahead and make sure that, uh, you sir, uh, if I'm getting some more, I'm gonna let you go.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I talk to the money ball or Twitter.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: He he lies about who he is, but I talk to him pretty often.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's he says all the same things on here to be says on Twitter.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you picking up his, you picking up his language, I know who he is.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, I'll take it all.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, all right, um,
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where are we at?
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's up for, peacecraft?
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes people need a new change of scenery.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that has something to do with cam and Emmanuel Forbes conversation.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Peacecraft mentioned Joey Slay.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's like part of saying that's worth the conversation in terms of past players.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Joey Slay's won.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Zanik is always like, again, I'm not super high on Zanik, but like he was here in part of the winning,
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: right like he wasn't he wasn't a problem when he was here.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I sure people had some to say about his kick-offs, but ended a day, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, John Dawson, peacecraft said is worth the conversation as well.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: To the conversation of injuries, let's see what the chat is saying 33% of what is very low on like bet.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I understand where that 33 comes from.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: 33% Ben says 80, Monty says 80, Kenny says 80.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jay Tizzy says 60.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually at 60, I don't know, so he changes mindset, 75% I'm at 60.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm at 60% injuries.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where we at, Ross was still bad and we're clearly not a good play caller.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think those are all factors.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, great.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when we talk about,
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hope I still have the numbers saved in my bookmarks.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to do a quick scroll.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to do a long scroll.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have it in terms of the injuries.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: But there's a lot of starters who missed a lot of games in terms of combined time and combined players in terms of the injuries and games missed.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that's all important, right?
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you got that much time, it's like, you got to think about that.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I will say, that's why I weigh the injuries more heavily and on top of that, this is a roster as you said, Jerry, is top heavy.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've always been saying that here on this show, at least, especially in certain positions, like once they go down, it's over.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what's even worse about this season is that once they went down, they're back of went down.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And their backup is back up when down.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what really hurts.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I do think what's important is understanding that there was still some coaches that got in the way of being successful.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this stretch, this six-game stretch is going to highlight either danquins ability to elevate the players or the true status of the roster.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did initially think that this could backfire on one danquin.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: terms of him taking over play, calling this early, but I actually came down off that opinion, because I think it's more reflective on other elements of the team.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Dan Quinn will be in any trouble or will look any type of way if he can't, if this defense doesn't look better.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But another thing though, that's important, I said it post game, right?
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like miss tackles is miss tackles aside.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you can't ignore them.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to, I want to make sure that's known.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can't ignore the miss tackles.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm saying from SNAP to whistle, they played faster.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: They knew where they was supposed to be.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was still some explosive plays allowed in the run game, plenty of them.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: They have a nice change as a dog.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: But there was still some explosive plays allowed in the run game.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: But for the most part, like, there was some different elements to this to this defense that Dan Quinn was like we're going to make sure that we we implement these, but we're also going to make sure that we have our eyes looking forward and not backwards in terms of like where the quarterback is.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Scroll through some more.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say, what do you think about Dan Quinn's comments about Clark Martin and I missed that actually, I'm glad to hear that I'm doing it and I saw that and that's aging with a love this conversation, but he pretty much kind of said, you know, with Clark Martin thing we had to make some corrections there.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't wonder, I'm like, okay, now, what does this look like for the rest of the season?
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna see Kwan Martin's snap start the drastically decrease, because that was the guy that I all came up before this season.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yo, anybody who asked him, and it wasn't, they didn't even have to ask him, Kwan Martin's name.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: They came up voluntarily told you this guy,
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to have a breakout season.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: My day clearly expected a lot more on the claw Martin than it got to see.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it was really interesting for me to see Dan clink kind of publicly.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: He don't normally do this.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like he clinked up and he came out and said, yeah, they had to make some corrections there.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's the nicest way of saying this delane it on the field.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you see it like what claw Martin, I know some people, now this is one thing I'm not really going to blame culture for.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I've had my issues with the culture staff this year.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I can't blame
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: culture for poor effort on tackles or, you know, bad angles.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Which we've seen for retain legal claw Martin this year, and you know, even him just not being in the right place at the right time, he just hasn't been impactful.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember, you know, shout out to Leneo, you know, I listened to Leneo's radio show before the season started.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Leneo and then he had a whole segment about claw Martin and how he's been one of the better players.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, the segment was
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: which player do you expect more out of this season?
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I remember responding to him, I said, I expect more out of Clark Martin.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And people kind of jumped on him.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Clark wasn't a problem.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Clark was a bad.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I said, I didn't say Clark Martin was bad.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: What I said was I expect more out of Clark Martin.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because when I watched out of Clark Martin last season, he was there.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like he wasn't bad, but he also wasn't in background or consistent basis.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to see him take that lead.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: This year, not only did he not take the lead, he regressed.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: He went from there, my opinion, okay, to bad to the point where now I'm looking at free safety as a top three priority going into the next off season.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I just thought that was really interesting here from Dan Climbs because you don't typically eat it.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's not like just the fans are just seeing this.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is something that causes another situation.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be interesting to see that situation going forward.
• 30:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... shout out to money ball for the contribution show us a lot of out what are we going straight what are we doing the day for money ball to be complimentary this year i know he really like he already he already he's think this is already previously before i know you want to do that expected yeah he said something he said don't mention something about john dotson because i don't love he loves john i'm like
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think money balls won't revere back, too.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he was revere to kick out.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't say that, and I don't say his name.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll just call it the previous regime, the previous regime, but.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But also an unfamiliar with what Dre is speaking of.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And his pressure, not post-game pressure, but his pressure is Monday after.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tell the truth.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tell the truth, Mondays.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Quon Martin not playing his usual Mount.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dan Quincy, yeah, it's just a change in personnel.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was just some corrections that had to be made.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so came back to playing it.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, we just wanted to make some corrections to get it right.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: One sentence thing, two sentence statement, I guess,
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but yeah, I won't dwell on it too much, but you know, I think the the stage in where you're talking about or not.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me put it this way.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: You are not sugar coding.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're not being blunt, but you're not sugar coding.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The actual situation.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're allowing reporters, media fans to read in between the lines of what you're actually saying.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh, through your words.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think if you get to that point with a player, you should know naturally.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and you better step you shit up because we got I got to make sure I, I noticed you're here for the long term.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Especially the starter.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the real call out.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Remember, AJ thought that they're freezing him was the call out for clawing the play better.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, to me, this was the call out like broke.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got six games left to get you a shit straight.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is gonna be one of the things we put on that Santa's niece, let's add them to Peter's.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go through some more, oh, I'm sorry.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's take a break right quick.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause then we got a circle back.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go ahead and talk about the people
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bancers eat.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look, my football season is in full swing and underdog is the best place to get on on all the action.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Play on underdog is easy.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just pick whether you're team or your favorite player to go higher on a lower such as stats, like rushing yards, receptions, touchdowns, and more.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: So typically on the commander's show,
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: We do Thursday night football.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this week, we got Buffalo and he used them.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jay, we both did pretty good.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this weekend, right?
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a pretty good weekend.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we had a pretty good weekend.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, man, I'm going to give you two players.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to do two players.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So let's start with James Cook.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: We want to do James Cook for you.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm using defense pretty good.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if you wrong, I'm going to blame you.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Russian yards, higher or lower, 73 and a half.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going lower.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Lower, okay?
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: 73 and a half, we're going to go lower for James Cook.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, let's do one more for you.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do one from the Texans.
• 33:40
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• 33:44
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• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna, his number is at 38 and a half.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna go higher or lower.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got dumped in shops on my fantasy team.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna say higher just for my own sake.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: My own bias on my own sake.
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going higher.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so I am going to move forward to, let's see a Khalil Shakir 45 and a half for CVRs.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I am going to go higher.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think he may be the only one on that team that gets over 40 40 receiving yards.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I'm going to go higher on Khalil Shakir.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then for Houston.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where is Nick Collins?
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, there we go.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said Nick Collins, Nico Collins.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's at 74 and a half receiving yards.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I am going to go, uh, hire on Nico Collins as well.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to do it in Houston, but more of they don't.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a real play this week.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Davis is playing.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: They found a way to give him the ball.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to go ahead and rock out with Nico.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to give him hire on the 74 and a half of CM yards.
• 35:08
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• 36:12
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• 36:13
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• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, customers, well, you look like, you are like, you want a place station.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you want to, you want to, you're an original place station.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to wipe the camera.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just on a way.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was just on a wet 9 hour flight.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know, bro.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're back in the States, bro.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: You ain't got to get no sleep, where you had to, you had to just open the mood, you had to just open the trip, man.
• 37:09
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• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, let's get to it, let's get to it, bro.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, second half of the show, we are taping into acting before, because we were going to do priority residers and we started kind of moving around, which is fine.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Perfectly fine.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do C, C-Rot conversation because that's quicker, and then we'll close out with our priority resideness for the team.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Actually, that kind of holds in on the conversation that we had prior to our abrejory was like, we talked about how the pirate, I mean, the regime, curve regime was kind of.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: they were giddy, they were anxious or really eager is the right word to get rid of the older players.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you can even see it and see Rod in the sense how their quick to reduce his snaps.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like last year, he was on a private squash for so much time up until certain players got hurt.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: This year, like all the took was for Bill to have us, like two big games, and they said,
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: We ain't going to put you on the practice squad, but you ain't getting no more snacks, right?
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that game against Miami for Chris Rodriguez at the very least, all the, like, solidified hopefully, like, do you have faith?
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's probably a good question to start.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: The end of faith that Washington
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to give Siara a proper chance whether or not like he is the future running back for Washington is there's like that's a different conversation, but at least this season, I think he's shown consistently that he is your most productive running back.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So do you think he'll get that proper opportunity during these last six games?
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think I think he's shown that he can be a contributor in the league, but he not the lead dog like at the end of the game.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for this team, you know, the lead dog who's the lead dog right now think I think it's still by committee because I really feel like Cliff was forced to even was it's it's it's it's so the question was was tailored because like you got it like the for him to be like shoved away to the side for Bill that we know that it wasn't back to many
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, like we know for a brief period or even extended period of time.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't about committee.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was, it was primarily bill.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like the question of getting a fair shot, it doesn't have to be him getting like 20 carries a game.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: But even this game, he showed that he could tell and he was effective.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you still stop giving him the ball.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You gave his, you gave his carries a bill.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess that's kind of the, the basis with a genesis of my question is like,
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: can are they going to realize or give by Chris of fair opportunity to show that he can be effective with the amount of carries that you're willing to give the committee.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can you give him 10 carries if the committee's getting five of the piece?
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can you give him the 10?
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that makes sense, but that's kind of what I'm going to do.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I guess if you sounded that way, yeah, he'll get majority of the carries going forward, but I mean, I guess when you asked the question, I was looking at 2026.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't see him as a vocal point, but I feel like he's made a stand for himself career-wise that he can get contributor in this league.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I was more so getting to.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, kind of a follow up on it.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, going forward.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you really have a choice because Chris, where I read he has a show on you the most at this point.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Especially when you talk about this portion of the season, like Bill fling early.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Bill flashed early.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, you know, we can go back to Bill in college.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: You play one game last year.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Me and that have been ready for the NFL rigorous, the rigorous in the NFL.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he hasn't shown you what, at least at this fortune in the season, when he showed you earlier in the season.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whereas Chris Raric is, I think he's only shown you that every time he gets the care, he's that he's going to be productive.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this is not even just this year.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is going back to since Chris Raric has been here as a Washington commander, Washington, whatever.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he's been here.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's been productive.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And last game should have shown you enough to say, well, yeah, this should be the guy at least for this year going forward.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the guy you have to, you know, kind of put ahead of that run back.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because you kind of have been running back committee throughout the whole year.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Except Chris Rodriguez has a guy that's been here.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You've had build, you've had a J-Mac, you know, those guys have been getting their carries.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: But me the one of those guys have stood out over the over the course of the season to say this is your lead back West Chris right Rick is and when you're talking about this portion of the season and what he's done for you as his body of work since he's been here I mean the guy's only produced like he's I mean what else does he have to do with this point to kind of earn trust now I mean you could talk about you know that like an or whatever cliff whatever
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: But he's producing like, and if a guy's producing, you have to give that guy his Aaron opportunity.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's earned it at this point.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: He sat out.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: He waited.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: He sat down and watched the other backskid that carries.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now you call his number.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: He comes in.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's ready to produce.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: So at least for this opportunity.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now we're not talking about 2026.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's 2026.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can go out a little a choir different.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Back whatever you want to do.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: But at least for this 2025 season for a remainder of it, I do believe Chris Rodriguez has earned the beat.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: The lead that it is.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: One thing I'll take away from, like, actually being at the game, I'll suddenly, like,
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: My Emily's run game, commitment, and how it's drawn up looks so different than what Commander does.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, it's day and night.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you got a toss play.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: You got so many different motion sets that get the full back and gold and position to help block.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you got so many different encounters, whatever.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just different from overall standpoint, and I think, you know, even though in there that gold line play,
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Cliff was so predictable, right?
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Any time he brought a brand of home as the eligible receiver, they were running to this, like, take the mark as Mario to a QB suite, like, it's just, yeah, it was, I think that's the main issue with the running game.
• 43:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Honestly, it's just a lack of creativity utilizing the players and also the lineman and their athleticism.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cliff don't want to run the ball.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the real issue.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cliff wants to go out there and run Cliff's office, which is that air raid, we go out, we pass, but Cliff don't have that person there.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's kind of the issue we've been talking about is that Cliff is not really a just and to the person that he has, at this point, Cliff still wants to run, Cliff wants to run and they aren't getting creative and they're running game.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, that's what you see.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mike McDaniel, they be a right-clank so much to run game.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Priority resideness.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're heading to the Bible week at this point.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've seen a 11 game, so we've seen majority of the games that they played to this point.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The last six games is going to be a big deal for several creations, but we're talking about a team who is, I think, going into a free agency with, by 28, 27 free agents.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's half your
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you think about priority resideness and who Washington ought to be focusing on, and when I say resideness, I'm also talking about people who are up for extensive as well, so that includes, like, where we talk to who's under contract, beyond 2025.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But where are we at, in terms of who are the people that need to get offers after this season, based on how this season has went?
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: So more, I don't want to, I mean, Larry turns on, I'm just going to say he goes, you know, saying I do think that's a guy you want to extend, but I don't want to get too deep into the extension.
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: with up a seat who's eligible for that.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead and discuss.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll bring them up.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going on that too.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I will say for priority.
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not many for me because as I'm looking at the free ages for Washington, but it's up coming off season.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Most of these things are the older dudes.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, in the guys, you want to kind of push out at here at this point.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: But for me, priority wise, Chris Paul will be number one in that list.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you, you have to bring him back.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's eligible to be an own partnership for the age of the season.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought he's placed solid.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: At the very least, he's great deaf from the office of why Chris Paul has to be at the near to top of that list.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: My other guy would definitely be Jake Martin.
• 46:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jake Martin at the very least could be a good rotation, a third, a third down past Russia, you know, whatever.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's shown he can even step in and be a starter, but you know, ideally you don't want him to be a starter, but that's a guy you want to your roster.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like Jake Martin, I definitely think he needs to be back.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, it
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's scant going to this list because a lot of you guys are really young with a bat Yeah, I might have said that you guys if he was healthy, but he's coming off of injury and he's gonna you want that's fine Yeah, more desktop right here.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So so you can have to list.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna send it to the private That's fine, and you can bring that up it's right there
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: My last guy, I sit Chris Paul and I say Jake Martin, those are my two guys for extensions.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go with, I think Noah, you can bring him back as a good dev guy.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's in solid fifth corner back in the weeks and I'm going to check your private check now.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he wasted the air here.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he probably feels like he wasted the air here.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: He probably feels like he could be at least another three guys somewhere else and he's pretty much been number four, number five all year.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she ain't ain't saying the feeling.
• 47:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: He just started saying the feel this year.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, sorry, this year.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is injuries.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so like that.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what I mean, like sure he's probably been like a four or five for sure on like the paper and he's primarily special teams.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, this I'm sure he's like, bro, I just played
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said a solid job and you tell me that I went from that to not even sniffing the feel.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let me see what else is out there, bro, because I know somebody saying my 2024 tape is interested in seeing what I got for them or competing for like a number three row.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: AJ, yeah, I mean, I think Chris Paul is a rotational piece that she could bring back.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jake Martin all depends on what type of scheme you still go around, but I mean, I think they could be a contributor.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: The only other person I'm trying to say is, Debo, I think when you look at the Y receiver, like availability, next year's free agency was, he's the top guy and I think he'd get fit in any office of scheme.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just more so what's going to happen at L.C.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Cliff is going to be there, but that's truly how I see.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: be if Adam Peter keeps a job in bring him here just for one year rental.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean y'all keep seeing how he keeps diving right back in the San Francisco and from Drake Jackson to Jake Moody is don't keep going.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: He got a plan.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: What is guys from the San Francisco?
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Doug and with Carolina.
• 49:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm here.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I say, Ron Doug and with Carolina.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm more so, that's not a criticism.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm more so acknowledged and like, up short, they're going to dig into what they know.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to ask, can that, can that, can that it's AJ, what, what, what would you get debunked as a cop, well, let's not even talk about money more so years what, I mean, I guess I get my number one, I offer him a one year deal, bro.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what I'm the, if you do that, you have to have more it all year.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have to do one year, right?
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can do it.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can do it three year and deal with it.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, avoid it.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: A fire AP, fire AP the next day.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, when I'm saying it, it's a three because a three year deal.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: But it's really a two.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: The third is a void year.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: fire, AP, the next day with him one year.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Reason, reason I ended up is because if you have, you obviously go have Terry back next year, unless you just do something drastic and trade them, then you send depot, but what, what else do you do?
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why, because I still think you need more of that.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you need something.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you're going to, you're going to be dry.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: But it's just like at the end.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have a lot of
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you don't plan more than likely your first round pick is going to be utilized on the wire receiver.
• 50:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, I don't think it's going to be like, I'm just going to be that's what I'm doing here.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I've been saying that for a while.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's why I'm then, uh, because there's plenty of wire receivers and free agency who offers more nuance than what Debo is saying to rise.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Debo, I think Debo Samuel is like a lead at what he does in terms of yet.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's maybe there is a terms of a consistent catch.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, you're talking about a person who doesn't really lack the, he's not like a nuanced rock runner.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's not a person who is creating separation and top of the route, except for a fucking,
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: a chicken wing like form thing like Christian Kirk is a guy I studied that's easy for me to see him say if you want somebody who can create a create separation you need a guy that's in a slight Christian Kirk do that for you.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Polymes I'm not advocating for him because he stays hurt he's like no a brown so like I'm saying in terms of a name skill wise that's the type of player I would go for it.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I'm not going to sit here until you to go for him because I know his injury history, like you can't trust him as far as you can, uh, as far as you can see him, um, there's other people out there.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Marky's Brown, if you're talking about a person, or how do you look brown, if you're talking about a person who can really threaten all three levels of the field, that's another person.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I stopped there because like this is all season topic, but I think my main point in saying, I'm okay with moving on from Debo is like if you're if you're here after you're saying this season and you and you know that there is nobody on this roster.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: whether Terry was here or not, like, on the field.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is creating separation consistently for your quarterback, which includes debokers.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's only missed one game, I think.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: There are plenty of other routes that you can go in terms of building your receiving code.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can shove everybody else to decide, keep your needs to, which is a Terry, because these contractually obligated at least for one more season.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're your third year playing Luke McAfrey, your second year player in Jalen Lane.
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Figure out who will this is going to be
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: the structure.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are you going to get a taller guy who can who can most of shit out of niggas.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but he has a little bit of right running nuanced on.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are you going to get, um, doesn't matter to frame, but a person who can create separation, uh, and, and it's super smart in terms of like how to play cover.
• 53:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's, um, how to manipulate a cornerback.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like what is the
• 53:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think if you talk about Debo, Debo is just a person who like just get the ball in his hands and you got it, you need a coordinator who can scan the shit out of Debo as opposed to like having a receiver make place for you not to say that both doesn't work hand and hand like that's perfect if you get a receiver who can do his own thing, but also have a coordinator who can put him in multiple positions, but like I don't see anybody on this roster.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: And Kudentary, as you can like, scheme around because he's super nuanced as a receiver, and, yeah, I'm okay, I think, I think the conversation really is almost kind of immature to have just from a time standpoint, because I, I believe that a change is going to happen at OC.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, and when I deal right, he's going to take another job, like, um,
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you bring in a certain guy, I don't have a certain look for his offense, and I mean, I think they have a clear claim maker.
• 54:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you know, I also know who's available free agency was not good.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Why is he was indelible and free agency?
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a group that I'm like, everybody, everybody believe it.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, everybody says like George Piggas isn't free agency.
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not to say that he may not go back to Dallas, but like, I hate when people say that.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not just on Drake, I mean, excuse me, AJ specifically is more so because it's salt.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Free agency classes are so in-depth, bruh, like people who flash and that was a free agent.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like some people don't even realize it until like middle of the season and you find out this new addition was like one of the best free agents on is that the team had this all season.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like and you find that out like because you watched the team where you see them in a prime time, never something like that.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like people don't know how in-depth a receiving class or even a
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you really got to understand somebody's players and I just don't like that that thing people say that about the draft too like people say about a position not receive or I'm just saying the position they're not that deep of this class like y'all don't fucking study it bro y'all don't study it y'all know the best the best free agent while receiving pick up this all seasons then stuff on days like it's just that it's just not a deep class bro
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just think that it really depends on who's going to be the OC.
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: If it is, you know, Mike McCarty, maybe he has a different look.
• 55:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: If it is a Mike McDaniels, he has a different look.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: If it is, someone with their last ad on the interview.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike, those are, those are people that, that was some big goals that made, that made impact.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, I mean, Mike McDaniel's office works best when he has to do that could take the top off the defense, which is a tiring you know, we don't have that I mean, well, I mean, Terry can be the guy on the top sometimes.
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he can do that.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think Terry's more of a great artistic cast type of guy.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Washington doesn't have on the roster at this point in when it can take the top off the defense and you don't necessarily need the the best of the best to do that you've
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I think you could find it every three to class, especially when you look at a watch and it's a watch of some commanders by receiver group, you could find people within a free to class that can make a watch of some of our receiver group better.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: AJ left to be last year when I said, dare you a slate can make this watch receiver group better.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he probably would have a bishop, he's kind of going to give me a moment.
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that type of deal, he will be probably better than a lot of what Washington has right now.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's probably what you're going to see in this video, you're not going to see a Odale Beckham in his prime or, you know, those great drivers he was just going to take your wife to see from a, what Washington has now to what a Cincinnati Bengals has now, what you will find this guy's to commit you better.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm talking about availability too, because that's a big thing, because Washington probably thought they were going to be better this year.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: because they probably factored it and no were browned on the Terry McClure and the Terry McClure nothing to add them into that group because he's rarely ever injured.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is the first time we've ever seen Terry injured and it's like, but no are browned.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: They definitely include it in as a guy that will make this wild to see the group better, but no are browned is rarely ever available.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: He hasn't been available all season.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: So one thing Washington has to identify at least in my opinion as far as trying to make this wild to see the group better, especially when you talk about having
• 58:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Get some guys on free HC and it's gonna be guys out there free HC.
• 58:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: They can make this white perceive the group better, but their best availability, but their best ability is availability as well.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't rely on the norm rounds in the world.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have to rely on guys that can be available and that can make this group better.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's guys out there and white in free HC, they can do that.
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And if Jayden Daniels is healthy,
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to do wrong with these bioreceptives, but Jaden Daniels hasn't been healthy this season.
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: He hasn't been, we haven't been able to say we can call our superhero and he could take over this office and make everyone better.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: We haven't had that this season, but if Jaden Daniels is healthy next season, you could find guys within that bioreceptive group that can make you better.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: A my personal opinion is that you have to really get better on defense.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, that's
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so one for me, I'll be quick on my own.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't mention Chris Rodriguez.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's also a free agent for like the 30 year in a row.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll bring him at just off the strength.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a restricted free agent too.
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like you kind of have some rights there.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: But bring him back.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Chris Paul, Jerry, I'm with you on Chris Paul.
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jake Martin, I'm with you on Jake.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... i would have said these are before the injury because i know he would have been solid for the team but now i don't know what his situation looks like because that injury uh... so that would probably be the only other one trust way is thirty five if you wants to play keep playing like you can plan to you forty breath so
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: keep bringing back trusty way that like but that's kind of where we are with with I mean Bobby Wagner is a free agent.
• 59:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: He gone Marcus Mario to if he keep if he wants to play I'm sure he loves it here and he he speaks highly of Dan Quinn and the coaching staff so if you want to extend him for another year bring him back let him and Jayden rock out again
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Outside of that like you got a significantly investment at defense as you mentioned the titan group Zach Earth is going to be gone You ain't bring Zachers back bro.
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's 35 like it's it's over for him And Bond Miller's 36 like he is a spot duty guy I think there's just certain positions where you know you got to have a heavy lift.
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's titan
• 1:00:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and when I say heavy, I mean, tight in, technically speaking right now, you don't have a heavy lift at receiver because Debo is a person as you can keep around, but um, I still think you need to retool the receiver position, but it's not a heavy lift.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, linebacker cornerback.
• 1:00:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause Marshal Latamore.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think at this point, you got to start thinking about his future in Washington with that ACL injury.
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he has any injury clauses or anything like that, but if you can cut him and move on, I don't think he has any guarantees as it's only 25 like bad deal.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Goodbye, like just go ahead and give rid of him.
• 1:01:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think defense is going to have a that's kind of going to be the biggest conversation and it's just not just look forward to the offseason and it's more so just evaluating where we are right now, I don't know who I mean.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Javansai Jean Baptiste, he's hurt and coming back this evening.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like who's going to be on that edge for these last six games that you can see here and say from an investment standpoint, uh, I like where we're going.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and that's why that's why I think Jake is important.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I'm sure he's going to end up earning himself some money somewhere, but it's going to be probably like his last who raw in terms of his contract is good to be sound the one-year deal he'll start.
• 1:01:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you may be fighting a little bit in
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know, man.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's on the scissors to go out to be made more.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: But like I said, for me, I can't sit here and watch another year of people telling me or at least for my own eyes sitting here watching that you have a defense that can't stop anybody.
• 1:02:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I understand you want to get better on office.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I understand you want to have this high power thing for jaden, you know, but I still think jaden being jaden.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He gives you so much potential and so much maximization of what you can do in office.
• 1:02:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: But Jayden don't play defense.
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jayden can't go out there in play second there.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't go out there in rush to pass it.
• 1:02:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jayden has no control over what happens on a defense.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want Jayden to have more possessions.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: where he is in position to give you a bigger lead versus jaden have a more possessions to play shoot out football.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I want going forward for jaden names.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want jaden names to go out there and say, man, I can make a misuse because, you know, I know I'm going to get the ball back and I know my deep is going to bail me up.
• 1:03:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: We can't say that in a wiggling defense.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You need a year or two of what Drake may have.
• 1:03:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what Chicago does.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: They've like opportunistic football.
• 1:03:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: They don't need Caleb Williams to go out there with football game in Atlanta.
• 1:03:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: You said with the New England thing.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Give me that.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's stop saying less, less, more jaded in the go out there score 60 points again.
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to score 60 points.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
• 1:03:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have a offense.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and you probably need that if you have a defense that you're putting out there every week.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: like we have right now.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that's what I really, well, that's the biggest weapon Genie can have right now.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm, is it something I think, what I think you need, you need Jayden to have more explosion that matches where he's skill set that quarterback and they don't have that, bro.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: But they don't have that.
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the main thing that they miss.
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll trust you.
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: What, what this is like, they're really not doing that.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was just not taking no shots down.
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 1:04:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I want to hear this guy.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can fight a free agency though.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not a dream.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's talented.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was talented in Buffalo.
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to drag Mac Holla's top five.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't drag step on deep stuff.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't drag trade yet land just in top five.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that's what I'm saying, that's my whole point.
• 1:04:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, Drake, man, yeah, he has some things around them, but you didn't have to go out there and spend training and fix to get those guys.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I want Jayden to have the type of defense that's gonna go out there and Bill Jayden out and doesn't make Jayden feel like he has to be Superman every plate.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want Jayden to know that I can make him a steak, but my beef is gonna bill me on.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: They don't give me the ball back and I'm gonna go out there and score an exposition.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the best weapon Jayden can have in my opinion.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's just me.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ultimately, I think the bottom line is what we've come to realize as we head into this by week, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to stop being cheap.
• 1:04:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, that doesn't mean spend $10 billion on 10 different players, but it means like, you identify your guys, like spend that money on them, spend that bag on them for, and
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It sounded like we need that on a defense side of the bowl.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all didn't mention tri-law burks.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I wonder if he comes back in the Denver game.
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: That'll be interesting.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not aim and treat to see what he looks like with Jayden.
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean like him and Terry, care about Debo, I know lots of you at this point.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, Debo is going to be in a mix, but I want to see what Terry and Traylon looks like.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: with Jayden.
• 1:05:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know if he comes back against Denver, but eventually the way it sounds like he's going to be coming back.
• 1:05:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I am playing at some portion of the last few games.
• 1:05:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's go wrap it up for us.
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate anybody who tapped in man, show some love and
• 1:06:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And in entering you all in the conversation here on how y'all feel about this mob tonight, keep your head up.
• 1:06:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know it is, when you're stressing over here, and I know y'all not stressing out either.
• 1:06:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back Thursday.
• 1:06:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Thursday.
• 1:06:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's by week, but third I go all 32 back tomorrow and we'll talk about a few things as they should be settled in.
• 1:06:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's always on the mood.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this ain't nothing new for you all.
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, man, this is coming through customs is a pain in that ass bro like this joint is dumbest thing in the world.
• 1:06:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: But did they search you, bro?
• 1:06:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, thank God, they got the white people with the song, not me.
• 1:06:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: But typically, I'm always victim.
• 1:07:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, I live for your locks.
• 1:07:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 1:07:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: If you like, hey, trick daddy.
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Trick daddy, let's say it.
• 1:07:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Slip it slow.
• 1:07:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, man, enjoy the rest of your trip.
• 1:07:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or your voice back to your journey.
• 1:07:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm almost back home.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: One more flight, leaving Detroit back to DCM at the crib.
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: It is.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, uh, be safe, bruh, uh, Drake, uh, how does she Thursday?
• 1:07:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I, eventually I will tell you all about why I don't fuck with bruh.
• 1:07:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't, I'll tell y'all that when, you know, when we have a relationship, uh, you said that the angry talk was to six in the morning, right?
• 1:07:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know.
• 1:07:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I woke up ready to I thought I missed the text because I was like, you didn't.
• 1:07:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't, bro.
• 1:07:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just saying that because it's like because I only hit up.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I only hit him up when AJ he asked me two times The last two times the last two times I did and Like the same result happened and I'm like, bro, like I put it this way.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: That matter fact.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's end the show like this because I got I got about four minutes four minutes so I can talk about it
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll just keep the name to ourselves.
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, every time that I hit a mug, brother, like I'm respectful, I don't, I don't go out my way like I'm even like self-causes, like I don't want to personally know about it.
• 1:08:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm not no pest, like, and on top of that, like the person gave me their number.
• 1:08:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, so I'm super mindful of that, especially from a status standpoint, I'm not going to, like, blow your phone up.
• 1:08:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to, uh, this respects your time.
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't disrespect what I got going over here, bro.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like, I think for that person to have like,
• 1:09:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, he's around in the space.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, bro, for you to like be available in other spaces, right?
• 1:09:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Other spaces.
• 1:09:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why is it every time I reach out to you, which is apparently has only been three times that I've reached out?
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why is it that like, when I reach out, there's an excuse here, right?
• 1:09:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or one time you did agree to be like,
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: and then completely no show and then answer the the reconformation that I sent out the morning of the show.
• 1:09:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you completely didn't say a word.
• 1:09:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this time again last week we shout to him.
• 1:09:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said,
• 1:09:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can't do it.
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I sent you all the screenshot for a while.
• 1:10:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, why he said he couldn't do it.
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, cool.
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I followed up with him, and I'm like, yo, like, is this a typical Tuesday for you?
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me know, because I'm like, if it's a typical Tuesday, maybe we can do it Thursday, because like, if you're typically on the road, I'm not bothered to sit here and like, try to discuss you on a Tuesday that you will never be available at this particular time.
• 1:10:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, because I'm like, all right, if you can do Thursday, let us just do Thursday, which was meaning like last week for the game preview.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then get a response back.
• 1:10:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hit him up yesterday, which is why I got to take this morning.
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hit him up yesterday, hit him up yesterday morning.
• 1:10:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or yesterday afternoon, and I'm like, So there's this Tuesday work.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Since he was on the road, let us do this.
• 1:10:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: This Tuesday work.
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: No response, nothing.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like, I didn't sense you a couple of text messages.
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not only is it this time, Dr. Yeah, I sent them a couple of text messages and the previous interactions that have gone unanswered.
• 1:11:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and my private brother, I'm telling you, Brad, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not no, I'm not no sucker, Brad.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like, and I feel like if I feel like I'm getting this respect to it, like you're not like, it's only but so much before I say something to you.
• 1:11:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know like the last time I said something to somebody,
• 1:11:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And as they got on my hands, and I'm like, Brad, like, it don't work like that with me, Brad, because that's why I said something to you all.
• 1:11:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just vent it to get that off my chest.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, Brad, do not tell me to do this because if I do, if you tell me to do this again, Brad, I'm a spaz on this, I'm a spaz on this nigga, Brad, and like, I'm a try to do it in most respectful manner, but like, it took me everything to not just say bro.
• 1:11:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't want to do something, just say, no, no, it's going to piss me off, man.
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And on top of that, the fact that I know that he'd be the person they do, like, they spend their time out there for other shows and obligations, I know that you had your phone on you.
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know who I am.
• 1:12:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So don't disrespect me, Brad and like that's where I'm that's where I got to eat it.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, Brad, don't ask me to do it no more, because I'm not going to do it.
• 1:12:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you ever ask me to do it again, I may be live with a spouse and is doing it completely burn the breach.
• 1:12:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I would be happy to burn the breach, Brad.
• 1:12:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say this and my quick, my piece for a clip.
• 1:12:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm glad it was just that because the way you had sent us that message this morning I thought some disrespectful shit went down as far as I mean that is this respect for what I've brought Because I was going to send the text message like that and this month we're seeing what I Yeah, so yeah, something now I'm even one of them to say, but I mean, yeah, I mean, you know sometimes There's big time
• 1:12:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: that that's literally was that's really what's going on, right like I ain't I ain't this respect to you and I could and I can burn the breeze but like yeah, you ain't I just respect you, bro, and and in the fact that you got to nerd a big time to my brother like yeah, I don't like another mall really mad about this because I don't went all the way through CSA.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: at my phone still running and still talking about.
• 1:13:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: But AJ, we was trying to hear about this morning.
• 1:13:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I said, I was going to say I don't think he heard anything.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he has nothing to do with that.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I heard it.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was saying I was going to tell you all about it later than I ended up telling it.
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you just missed, you missed everything that you did.
• 1:13:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I guess what does it go through to say, man, like 80.
• 1:13:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, where you get back through the stages, you go through customs, and then see us say you're good.
• 1:13:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, it's all good, bro.
• 1:13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's no podcast, be it, Monty.
• 1:13:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Trust me, they don't know podcast is, bro.
• 1:14:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you ever met me in person, we may have a conversation about it, because it's a few people in the chat that, you know, we cool, we can have a conversation about, but yes.
• 1:14:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: We do not apologize.
• 1:14:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: The park has beef.
• 1:14:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let me start naming some of them.
• 1:14:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, let me start.
• 1:14:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: We just actually had a lot of the other people that are in the concert space, just like us at the Trappet 9, high social event, the crib.
• 1:14:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, ain't no beef.
• 1:14:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
• 1:14:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: It can't be no beef.
• 1:14:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just, you know, mall feel like, hey, don't play in my time.
• 1:14:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I won't play with you.
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: So that's what it is.
• 1:14:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now we're done, Brad.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all, tell you get easy.
• 1:14:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: AJ, we'll discuss it Saturday at part while we're getting drunk.
• 1:14:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all be safe all three to the tomorrow.
• 1:14:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The fellow you back on Thursday.
• 1:14:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate y'all checking out.
• 1:14:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: We fight here, man.
• 1:14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna let them hit the hole that you're gonna cut it off.
• 1:15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna play through for a long and you're gonna put it off.
• 1:15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in.
• 1:15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't be looking for the wafter, don't don't flag in.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Keep that on me, no.
• 1:15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Keep the police tight.
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get tight, you want to win by any means, right?
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You should look alive.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is dropping out.