Latest / The Pausecast / Ep. 97 Jake Thompson: Compete Every Day
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- 1:12Welcome. Hi everyone.
- 1:14Thanks so much for coming back to this episode of the Pause
- 1:18Cast. I am so excited to introduce to
- 1:20our guest, Jake Thompson. Hey Jake, how are you?
- 1:24Great. Thanks for having me on today.
- 1:26I'm so excited to to get into it with you and a little bit about
- 1:29Jake. And then Jake's very graciously
- 1:32agreed to lead us in a pause. Jake is a athlete.
- 1:38He's an author. He's an entrepreneur and
- 1:40speaker. And I actually met you, Jake, at
- 1:42the triathlon camp here in Florida a couple months ago.
- 1:45And when I heard Jake speak myself, I was like, I got to get
- 1:47him on here so he can help spread his message.
- 1:50Because I think we share a few things in common.
- 1:52You know, Jake, you're from the the corporate.
- 1:55World and you really are focused on helping leaders through your
- 2:00your CEC E3 model, which is really about the well, how would
- 2:05you describe it? Yeah, it's it's about the
- 2:08well-rounded professional experience.
- 2:10So it it looks at from an internal standpoint yourself and
- 2:14how you're developing and growing.
- 2:16We break that down to your mindset, your focus, and your
- 2:18systems. And then from there, how are you
- 2:21growing professionally and then most importantly, how are you
- 2:23leading others? And so we look at kind of those
- 2:25three models to help the professional be a well-rounded,
- 2:29not only teammate, contributor, but really an impactful leader.
- 2:33So cool, yes. And then the key is, as you
- 2:35know, not to burn out in that, not to stress out ourselves out
- 2:39beyond what we can manage and feel sustained.
- 2:42So we're going to kind of integrate our worlds today.
- 2:45And Jake also has a book out. Which is the same title compete
- 2:49every day same as his company. So we're going to, we're going
- 2:52to talk about that a little bit and I think the the bottom line
- 2:56that I love to share with my. Folks, today is just to know
- 3:00that you know you are, I think. Cut from the same cloth as many
- 3:03of us here, right where you're an achiever, you've done things
- 3:06on an incredible achieving level, whether it was athlete,
- 3:09athletics or career based and things like that.
- 3:12And now you've kind of worked to help others create that mental
- 3:16edge, that mental toughness. Because I do think it's all
- 3:18about the mental mindset which can bring us to these places,
- 3:21right? And that takes the things you
- 3:22talk about courage systems. Competitive mindset and things
- 3:26like that that can come in. So welcome.
- 3:28I'm so glad you're here and let's dive in.
- 3:31So would you be willing to lead us today, Jake?
- 3:34In a pause? Yeah, yeah, let's let's do it.
- 3:37So first thing I would love to start with anytime we do a pause
- 3:41is is the box breath. So focusing on breathing in for
- 3:46four, holding for four, breathing out for four.
- 3:54And holding for four, in for four, hold for four, out for
- 4:02four, hold for four. The reason we do this is because
- 4:07it forces us to focus in this moment, to focus on our breath,
- 4:12to focus on our heart rate, to pull all of the distractions of
- 4:15our inbox. Of our text messages, our social
- 4:19media, of our meetings later today, of everything going on in
- 4:23life. It says be here in this moment.
- 4:26And so after you take that box breath, just keep breathing
- 4:304444. And I want you to imagine your
- 4:35best self, that version of you that you were striving for.
- 4:41What do they do differently than you do today?
- 4:45How do they respond to challenges?
- 4:49How do they handle stress? How do they show up for not only
- 4:54their teammates at work, but how do they show up for their
- 4:57family? And most importantly, when they
- 5:01have that voice, that doubt, that fear, how does that version
- 5:05of you show up for yourself? The reason I love this is to
- 5:10paint this picture of who. That person is who that best
- 5:14version of you is. Because I believe all of us can
- 5:16identify something somewhere where we want to grow, something
- 5:21we want to improve on that version of us that's just out of
- 5:24reach. That at times feels like that's
- 5:28just a fairy tale. But in reality, that version is
- 5:33closer than you think. And the version of you today,
- 5:37right here, right now, is capable of reaching it.
- 5:41Shifting just a little bit of our mindset, tweaking just a few
- 5:47teeny tiny daily choices, and focusing on this moment where
- 5:52this breath is, you have the ability to bridge that gap
- 5:56between today and that best version of yourself.
- 6:04Thank you. Thank you.
- 6:05I'm just coming out of my box, breath breathing there and the
- 6:09visualization. I love what you said about
- 6:12you're so close. And I think sometimes we just
- 6:15forget how close we are and then we lose track or we don't
- 6:20bother, we we give up or we just stay, stay put.
- 6:25Right, We do. We feel like it's it's like the
- 6:27we do it every year. In January we set a New Year's
- 6:31resolution. We set a goal.
- 6:32We come out of the gate trying to jump the Grand Canyon and one
- 6:36single leap like we're Evil Knievel instead of just saying
- 6:40what's the one thing today that moves me closer to that?
- 6:44And that's how I like to look at everything.
- 6:46It's how I like to look at this compete, everyday mentality.
- 6:48It's life. It's eating elephant sized
- 6:51goals, but treating them like donut holes, one small bite at a
- 6:56time. Cuz you love Donuts, I remember
- 6:58that. Love Donuts.
- 7:00The dog is named Donut, right? Love.
- 7:02One of my dogs I have a sugar, a biscuit and a donut. 4 Legged
- 7:06family members. That's so great and and.
- 7:10I like that analogy of little things because I talk about that
- 7:12too. One of the principles I work
- 7:15with is the law of little things, which we all go by baby
- 7:18steps and that's how true change happens.
- 7:19So thank you for reinforcing that as something that works.
- 7:25And and I know we we call you the Chief Encouragement Officer.
- 7:30I love that the CEO and tell us a little bit about your story.
- 7:34How did you get here in this world of?
- 7:37Helping other leaders learn how to be on their own side and
- 7:41really, like, improve what they were already doing.
- 7:45I I honestly laughed that I just kind of fell into it.
- 7:49I grew up thinking I was going to be a sports agent, wanted to
- 7:53be the next Jerry Maguire. Yeah, that.
- 7:56That was what I wanted in in high school, college.
- 7:59I went to grad school for it, thinking like this is the path.
- 8:01Told everybody this is the path. They got down that path and
- 8:04realized. This isn't actually what I
- 8:07thought it was going to be, and this isn't what I want to be
- 8:10doing. And I tell folks there's some
- 8:13incredible agents out there. I had the unfortunate luck of
- 8:17working with some individuals who weren't as great, and my
- 8:21experience was kind of like seeing how the hot dog is made
- 8:24at the baseball park. You don't necessarily want to
- 8:26see the process of the hot dog being made and still eat the hot
- 8:28dog. And that was me.
- 8:29I was falling out of love with the one game that I absolutely
- 8:32loved. So I got out this fall of 2008.
- 8:35I'd just finishing up my MB A and I couldn't get a job.
- 8:38It was the recession. I had an MB A I had years
- 8:42working for a sports agency for a couple of professional sports
- 8:45teams. I didn't want to stay in ticket
- 8:47sales or do that kind of traditional route.
- 8:50And I was kind of out of luck. And so I started just a small
- 8:52consulting practice by simply reaching out to people in my
- 8:55network and saying, hey, listen, I taught myself basic graphic
- 8:57design. I can build a website for you.
- 8:59I can teach you social media and how to market.
- 9:02I can do these things to get you going and a client would take me
- 9:05on, I would help them build a strategy, they would refer me to
- 9:08someone else and and over the years I built a pretty good
- 9:11consulting practice. I was making six figures, I was
- 9:13single, living in Dallas, enjoying life.
- 9:16But I was incredibly unfulfilled with the work, just wasn't happy
- 9:20with what I was doing and I and I liken it to building a
- 9:22sandcastle. All of these toys, all of this
- 9:25wealth was doing nothing to help others, and I knew that at some
- 9:29point when my time's up. Time in the water is going to
- 9:32wash away that sandcastle, and if I've done nothing to impart
- 9:34and help others, there's no real legacy left behind.
- 9:38I started toying with this idea of what could life look like if
- 9:41somebody showed up and took the competitive mindset that I grew
- 9:44up with, loved in sports, always had, and shifted it to this idea
- 9:48of competing every day with yourself to be better, to be
- 9:50better Healthwise, financially, spiritually, relationally.
- 9:55Professionally, every area of your life you you took intention
- 9:58each day instead of just going through the motions hoping
- 10:00things got better. I started talking to people
- 10:02about this idea and it really seemed to resonate and I had no
- 10:06idea what to do with it. I just had this compete everyday
- 10:08message and brand and after 6 to 8 months of trying things that
- 10:13didn't work, my best friend said, hey, why don't you try
- 10:16tshirts? Think there's a company out of
- 10:17Boston called Life is Good. They do some pretty cool stuff.
- 10:20Why don't you try to do shirts? So I'd set aside some money for
- 10:24a guy's trip, ended up putting it into a few boxes of T-shirts
- 10:27and tank tops, and started selling them out of the trunk of
- 10:29my car as a side hustle at the gym I worked out at.
- 10:32And it started to grow. And in 2012 and 13 and 14, I
- 10:36started traveling all over the country, working Expos and race
- 10:40races and events and selling our brand in stores and loved it and
- 10:46thought this was what I was going to do.
- 10:48And then in 2014, one of the customers reached out and said,
- 10:52hey, we're having this big, big HR week at our hospital.
- 10:55We want to buy a shirt for everybody, 150 people by the
- 10:59way. Would you come talk?
- 11:01And I was like about what? And I'm like, just come tell
- 11:03your story. So I'm like okay.
- 11:05So I, I show up down in Houston, I give this talk.
- 11:08Didn't think anything about it. I just kind of fumbled through
- 11:10three lessons I'd learned building this business, why it
- 11:13was so important to me. And the VP pulled me aside
- 11:16afterwards. She said, I don't know if you've
- 11:18thought about this, but you should go do more of this.
- 11:21Like there's something here. So I filed it away, didn't think
- 11:25anything about it. Flash forward a couple years
- 11:26later, it's 2016. I'm trying to figure out how to
- 11:29change our business. We were in ecommerce business.
- 11:32We had a couple of retailers. We were doing offline events and
- 11:34online sales, and I was tired of honestly traveling every
- 11:38weekend. My wife and I just met, got
- 11:40married, and so when I'm gone, she's off work because she
- 11:43worked in real estate kind of Monday through Friday.
- 11:46I was like, there's got to be something one to change the
- 11:48business 2. There's got to be a better way
- 11:50to impact how people show up. Like the shirts are motivating.
- 11:54We know through the research of include cognition that what you
- 11:58wear influences how you show up. But there's got to be more to
- 12:02it. And so I'd always studied
- 12:03leadership development, sports psychology, just fascinated with
- 12:06this idea of developing yourself.
- 12:09So I just started talking about it, ended up finding a coach,
- 12:12hiring a coach who trained speakers and thought.
- 12:15Maybe I'll go this route the same time.
- 12:18Got to ask to do a keynote by another customer for her state
- 12:21association and going through the process with a new
- 12:25perspective of actually teaching and sharing this content.
- 12:29I fell in love with it, loved the work, the practice, the
- 12:33mess, loved the stage, loved the opportunity to interact and
- 12:36thought maybe this is what I want to do.
- 12:38And so in 2018, I called a buddy who teaches speakers on the
- 12:42business side, said, hey, teach me this.
- 12:45We've got a wealth of knowledge on how to develop, not only grow
- 12:47a business, but to develop leaders.
- 12:50I've learned this, I've studied this, I want to help people do
- 12:53it. And so they taught me the
- 12:54business side. And in late 2018 I jumped in and
- 12:582019 I was full time as a speaker of 2020, as we both know
- 13:01was chaotic. But still the business grew
- 13:04through referrals, word of mouth and has continued.
- 13:06And so really that's all I do today.
- 13:09So I have the opportunity to travel every month, work with
- 13:11companies. Do a lot in sales, a lot in
- 13:13construction. But I have clients in
- 13:15healthcare, transportation, staffing, you name it, Of
- 13:19helping them develop their leaders by developing their
- 13:21mindset to really embrace this idea of not just going through
- 13:25the motions every day at work and do life, but where can I get
- 13:29better? And then following through with
- 13:30that by building the habits to get better every day.
- 13:35Quite a story, quite a journey and here we are, right.
- 13:38So I think that message does resonate and I can see you are
- 13:41wearing a shirt right now that says compete every day.
- 13:44So nice work kind of growing that and evolving it based on
- 13:48what you were desiring and hearing and and really like that
- 13:52calling to leave your mark and so many people need this message
- 13:55I think and I and it brings me to my next question because when
- 13:58I hear that phrase and we just talked about this before we
- 14:00clicked record was well. Is that just going to stress me
- 14:03out if I compete every day how do I add that in on my plate
- 14:07man. Like I'm already maxed out for
- 14:09whatever I do. So what do we say like what
- 14:12happens with these with I think we're all we all get to that
- 14:15space maybe even daily where you're just like I can't do
- 14:18that. How do we address it so that we
- 14:21can compete every day and not feel the overwhelm or the
- 14:24stressors of that pressure that we can easily so put on
- 14:27ourselves. I think that's a big issue I
- 14:30think right now in the in the world of leadership.
- 14:32Huge, huge and and I get that all the time of like, Oh my
- 14:35gosh, that sounds exhausting and I challenge him.
- 14:38I said it's actually competing with yourself is the most
- 14:41exhilarating process because it it's similar to the idea of
- 14:45waking up every day and going to the gym.
- 14:47Some days it just sucks. You're not motivated.
- 14:49It's rainy. Today I wanted to sleep in.
- 14:51You don't necessarily want to do it but afterwards you always
- 14:54feel better. You never regret the workout you
- 14:56did like you're always proud of it.
- 14:58And so the way I look at it is. Most of us get exhausted
- 15:01competing every day because we're competing with everyone
- 15:03else and there's someone always ahead of us that's out of reach
- 15:07that we can't catch and we get frustrated by.
- 15:09There's always someone behind us that we can inflate our ego
- 15:11about and feel better than while taking the foot off the gas of
- 15:15our own progress. And so with me it's a.
- 15:17It's a simple process of you think about competing with
- 15:20yourself .011% is greater than 0.
- 15:25And every single day, if you can wake up and say, where's an area
- 15:28I want to get better today, identify.
- 15:31Maybe it's how you don't lose your temper with your spouse.
- 15:34Maybe it's when you get home from work today, you take your
- 15:37phone and you put it in a drawer for 20 or 30 minutes, setting a
- 15:40timer, and then give your children 100% of your focus
- 15:43instead of trying to hear about their day while you're still
- 15:45responding to emails and text. Maybe it's the simple desire to
- 15:48say I keep telling myself I'm going to get up and go for a run
- 15:53before work, and I keep hitting snooze.
- 15:55Maybe the goal today to win is to put your shoes and your alarm
- 15:58across the room, so tomorrow you automatically start the day with
- 16:01that win. It's just this idea of instead
- 16:04of going through life through the motions, it's having a
- 16:06target, working at that target, evaluating how you did and then
- 16:11repeating it. And that's really where it's so
- 16:13important. What I tell people is, if you
- 16:14think about it from a simple standpoint of somebody that
- 16:17lifts weights, you set a goal of, hey, I want to lift 200
- 16:20pounds, Where are you now? I lift 100 pounds, Okay.
- 16:23So we're trying to bridge £100 gap.
- 16:25Why does that matter to you? Well, I want to be able to lift
- 16:28my grandkids or carry my dogs with me places.
- 16:31I want to do these different things.
- 16:33Okay. Great.
- 16:33So you have a motivation, you know where you are, you want to
- 16:36get stronger. How do we do that?
- 16:37We have a plan. We hire a coach, we work a
- 16:40training plan. We do it for 8 to 12 weeks and
- 16:42at the end of 12 weeks you test, you evaluate, did you get
- 16:46stronger? Maybe that process you gained
- 16:48£100.00 but maybe you only gained 50.
- 16:51And so now your baseline's 150 versus 200 and people be like,
- 16:54ah, you suck, you failed, you missed it.
- 16:56Or you do the real competitive analysis and you step back and
- 17:00say over the last 12 weeks, what did I do?
- 17:02Well, I trained every day. I was consistent with my
- 17:04training. I listened to my trainer, What
- 17:06did you not do well, where is there room for improvement?
- 17:09I didn't really eat that well. I didn't sleep that great.
- 17:12Awesome. So now we're going to start the
- 17:13process over again and instead of trying to bridge £100 gap.
- 17:17We're only bridging a £50 gap because our baseline is
- 17:19increased. We got better and we also know
- 17:22this time we're going in with the intention of there's really
- 17:25good at training, but I need to be more focused on how what I
- 17:27eat and how I sleep. Which is going to help my
- 17:29results. And so even if you only jump £25
- 17:32or £20 that next time, you're continually growing and getting
- 17:36better by saying what's the target, How am I working at it
- 17:39And then doing the thing that I think most people get too busy
- 17:42to do, which is step back and evaluate and say what did I do
- 17:45well, whether I got the sale or I didn't get the sale, what do
- 17:48we do? Well, where do we need to
- 17:50improve and then how are we going to improve it?
- 17:54I'm hearing a few things that really resonate with me.
- 17:56And just going back to that that statement you have compete every
- 17:59day and it reminded me of, yeah, that that does stress us out
- 18:03when we do compare ourselves to others.
- 18:05In fact, that's one of the tenants I really hold for folks
- 18:09that I work with because that's just never an apples to apples
- 18:12comparison anyway, right. And of course it'll why that
- 18:15would totally stress you out. But we forget that, and I know I
- 18:17do too. Where I'm all of a sudden being
- 18:20like well why don't I have a million followers and all those
- 18:23things that we can easily fall into as a way of thinking and
- 18:27you're just such a good, it's such a good reminder to hear
- 18:29that back to me is yeah like well remember it's about
- 18:33yourself and where did where were you yesterday versus today.
- 18:37And and that's really the fair approach, right.
- 18:40Like that's really the the apples to apples that we're all
- 18:43looking for. But we just forget that,
- 18:45especially in our day and age. We do.
- 18:49And social's a great point. I made a I made a post this
- 18:51morning that's gotten some decent traction on Instagram,
- 18:55and I laugh because it didn't on LinkedIn, which is funny.
- 18:58But I said don't confuse online attention with real world
- 19:03results because it's really easy for us to get caught in the
- 19:06comparison trap of you make a post on social media and it gets
- 19:10two likes and somebody else gets 200 and you just think, well, I
- 19:15I suck compared to this person. Or you see this person posting
- 19:19stuff and it looks like all you know, they're just crushing it
- 19:22as a leader. And all of this in a reality,
- 19:25they could be struggling. They could have people be
- 19:26quitting. They could be a toxic lead like
- 19:28you don't know. And so we get confused with
- 19:30these snapshots we see of others versus knowing our entire story.
- 19:35And I think that's where it gets dangerous.
- 19:37And so I I tell folks like when you really embrace this
- 19:40mentality that I'm only competing with myself, I'm not
- 19:42intention. I'm not in conflict with
- 19:44everyone else. You can start looking at others,
- 19:47peers in your space, other leaders in your industry, and
- 19:50simply saying what do you do well, What can I learn from you?
- 19:55And then how can I apply what you do well with my spin on it
- 19:59to help me get better. It's not about where do you do
- 20:02well and I suck in comparison. It's like, what are you doing
- 20:04really well and how can I learn from you?
- 20:06And that's a huge game changer in terms of how we show up
- 20:10because it really changes a lot of that process.
- 20:14Because you get out of this consistent comparison game and
- 20:17really start getting into a competitive game with yourself
- 20:19to say what's out there that's better.
- 20:22Okay, that's my target. What do I need to do to bridge
- 20:24that gap? And then how can I do it?
- 20:26Cuz that's all I control. Right.
- 20:29And 100% agree agree with that and that it's about being
- 20:34objective. And that's what I think your
- 20:36phrase helps us with and. Reminding us in that power that
- 20:40we we're able to stay objective. If I'm just looking at you know
- 20:43where I am and growth mindset too right.
- 20:44That's kind of what you're bringing in.
- 20:46I think is how do I apply what I can learn from others or
- 20:49learning from myself in this moment in the in a better or
- 20:52different way versus all resentfulness or like they're
- 20:57going faster than me. They got the promotion, that
- 20:59person got the project and and I think.
- 21:02And that's just the autopilot default that we can fall into if
- 21:05we're really not careful. It's a slippery slope right?
- 21:07So what if we just compete with ourselves and and I'm.
- 21:11I'm also curious, you know, for you personally have you felt
- 21:14overwhelm or burned out like have you how do you how do you
- 21:18continually think sustain yourself, knowing you were
- 21:20flying around the country. You've got kids and dogs and
- 21:23lots of things on your plate. What can we, what can we learn
- 21:26from you in that sense, Jake, it's it's having non
- 21:30negotiables. So for me it's establishing
- 21:34routines while you travel and then being very intentional for
- 21:38time for yourself. So one of the things that I do
- 21:42travel is every day, regardless of what I'm traveling, I'm going
- 21:44to get some kind of work out. It may be 10 minutes of pushups,
- 21:47situps, air squats in my room. Could be 20 minutes just walking
- 21:51on a treadmill because I'm exhausted and jet lagged.
- 21:53But like every day I've got to have that.
- 21:55I've got to have 5 minutes, just a journal, write something down,
- 21:58and then five to 10 minutes reading.
- 22:00That's one of the habits I really started building is when
- 22:03I got on planes because I was traveling so much.
- 22:17And So what I normally do is I will.
- 22:06The last handful of months is it's really easy to get on a
- 22:09plane and just want to relax like I nothing makes me sleepier
- 22:11than sitting down on a plane and being like take a quick nap.
- 22:15I know I can just. I'll pull out a book and say I
- 22:21got to read one chapter before I'll watch a show.
- 22:24Before I do anything else, read a chapter.
- 22:25So always have a book on me to make sure I hit my daily
- 22:28chapter. Because you know, if I go to and
- 22:30go to a client event and I do a keynote and then I'm talking to
- 22:33everybody afterwards, they get back to the hotel room.
- 22:34Usually I'm spent mentally. I'm fried and so I don't want to
- 22:37read at that point. So I'm like okay, I'll get it in
- 22:39this morning. So I do that while I'm on the
- 22:41road of having little things every day that I can do
- 22:43regardless of where I am. The other thing is when I'm
- 22:46home, I'm scheduling time for things that recharge me.
- 22:51So yesterday afternoon is a perfect example of I finished
- 22:55podcast interviews on my end and a little bit of writing.
- 22:59And it was 2:00 and I said, you know what?
- 23:01I have some things I could do. I need to reset.
- 23:04So I grabbed my golf clubs and went down the street to the golf
- 23:07course and played a quick 18. And my wife laughed.
- 23:10She was like middle of a Tuesday said, yeah, I said I work some
- 23:14Saturdays, I travel, I do this. I was like I needed a recharge.
- 23:17That recharges me. So it's no different than when
- 23:19I'm on the road for multiple days at a time and I just need
- 23:23to kind of unplug one night I'll go watch a movie by myself, just
- 23:26go to the theater, grab a movie and just watch it and just
- 23:29relax. And so I think we pack our
- 23:31schedule so tightly as leaders because we have all these fires,
- 23:36all these things that we don't create, that time to recharge.
- 23:38And it's no different than your triathlon training.
- 23:41Like, you can't go all out every single day.
- 23:44Your body breaks down and we as leaders break down if we don't
- 23:47createspace. For me, it's working out when
- 23:50I'm at home, catching a movie once a month to just kind of
- 23:53unplug. It's other activities with
- 23:55friends that I know replenish me so that I can be at my best for
- 23:59everybody I'm trying to serve. You're given great examples of
- 24:03daily pauses that I would, that's my lingo of what I would
- 24:06say. It's these intentional shifts in
- 24:07behavior that bring you fulfillment and and more joy,
- 24:11right. So yeah, non negotiable is huge,
- 24:13huge and I love hearing that these are so simple, right.
- 24:16And it's like 5 minutes journaling boom, right?
- 24:20So, so. That's a great example.
- 24:22I mean I yeah, I'm, I'm inspired by what I'm hearing here too
- 24:26because I think a lot of leaders don't do that and we know this
- 24:29from stats like one out of 3 individuals in the workplace are
- 24:33burning out right now and and it's just sad to me because a
- 24:36lot of it can be self corrected like what you're saying we can
- 24:39take that time. I just, I just heard, I'm sure
- 24:42you know Brendan Brouchard. He had an event this weekend and
- 24:45my brother was there and I just listened into his podcast and he
- 24:48talks about high performers. 52 minutes is the optimal time to
- 24:52schedule according to his research for tasks and to do's.
- 24:56And then you got and then you take a break like that's from
- 24:59the from like the leading research in high performers.
- 25:02So, hey, if he says that and you're saying that, then I think
- 25:05we're on to something, right? Yeah.
- 25:07I mean, and and what are the little things in like your daily
- 25:09routine that you can mix in? I mean, you talked about like,
- 25:13the pauses. Like first thing in the morning
- 25:14is the gym. For me, usually mid afternoon I
- 25:17start to get that low where everybody's like, I need that
- 25:19next cup of coffee. If it's sunny outside, I'll take
- 25:22my my dogs on a walk and just say, hey, let's go do a quick
- 25:26lap around the neighborhood, let me get some sunlight on my face,
- 25:28maybe listen to music, maybe listen to nothing, and then come
- 25:31back in and attack the last part of the day.
- 25:34Yeah, yeah, super good. Good advice there.
- 25:38And I also want to talk a little bit about your your, your, your
- 25:41model, the CE3. Can you tell us a little bit
- 25:44about that and what we could learn here as leaders to just
- 25:47know, yeah, how can I apply this to my world and feel a little
- 25:51bit more prepared and effective in what I'm doing?
- 25:55Yeah, so a couple of pieces to it.
- 25:57So the CE really revolves around this idea of creating a
- 26:01competitive edge. And the stuff that creates our
- 26:04competitive edge is never secret sauce.
- 26:08Like I I love to say, it's not anything magical that gives you
- 26:12a competitive advantage. It's doing the little things
- 26:16consistently well. And so when we talk about it,
- 26:18it's kind of the inner game, the outer game and the side game.
- 26:21And so the inner games, all mindset, focus and systems.
- 26:24And so this is where we talk about growth mindset, which I
- 26:26know your audience is familiar with.
- 26:28Self talk, mindfulness, controlling our controllable
- 26:31setting targets, managing our time, not starting our day in
- 26:35our inbox, but with our priorities.
- 26:36Like little things like that of like what am I doing first to
- 26:40build a better me. And then as a leader it kind of
- 26:42goes to that outer game of what am I doing really to be
- 26:46purposeful and how I develop my team?
- 26:49How am I developing my future leaders, my frontline people?
- 26:52How am I mentoring people that aren't going to grow into a
- 26:55leadership piece? How how am I owning the culture
- 26:59and the language Whether I run an organization it's
- 27:01organizationally wide or I have a team within an organization.
- 27:05How am I making sure we have shared language?
- 27:08We have kind of I call it like the positive locker room talk.
- 27:11It's not like the crude raunchy. It's the hey your team all has
- 27:15the same language says the same things.
- 27:17So that if we're talking about teammates determine trajectory
- 27:22like my team knows that my team knows.
- 27:24When I say teammates determine trajectory, it's a compliment to
- 27:27our group because our teammates, our friends, our circle
- 27:30determine how far we go in life. It's not just up to us.
- 27:33And so we have standard things that we say together and then
- 27:36that accountability piece of friendships and relationships.
- 27:39And so the model is designed to say you have to build you.
- 27:44Then you have to look around and build your circle, your social
- 27:47circle of who your friends are, who you spend time with, who
- 27:49you're relational with from a mentoring coaching as well as a
- 27:53friendship. And then how are you building
- 27:55the people within your organization?
- 27:57And so always start with just a simple process you can do with
- 28:00yourself and then you can do with people on your team and
- 28:04friendships. And it's really just three
- 28:05questions. And I think we talked about it
- 28:07in Miami, but it's from sports psychology.
- 28:09I picked it up from a guy named Brian Kane, who I think got it
- 28:12from Ken Ravisa. But it's start, stop, continue.
- 28:15And so on an individual level, every day, at the end of the day
- 28:18or every Friday afternoon, ask yourself what's something I did
- 28:22not do this week, I need to start doing next week to be more
- 28:25successful. What's one thing I did this week
- 28:29I should stop doing next week to be more successful.
- 28:33And then what's one thing I'm doing well this week?
- 28:34I need to continue. So you identify something you
- 28:37didn't do that you want to add in something you did do that you
- 28:41should probably remove, and then something you're doing well,
- 28:43which is that confidence booster to keep going.
- 28:46Now, when you do that every week, you raise your awareness
- 28:49level of what am I doing well, where am I getting in my own
- 28:52way? What do I need to continue,
- 28:54which allows you to grow? Because until we're aware of a
- 28:57behavior, we can't change a behavior or improve it.
- 29:00And so on a weekly basis, this sets us up where we're
- 29:03constantly competing with ourselves to say, I've got a
- 29:06target, 2 targets. Really.
- 29:08How do I keep improving? Now when you do this with your
- 29:10friends, it's a way to hold each other accountable of, hey, you
- 29:14said you were going to take your spouse on a date night this
- 29:15week. Did you get it planned?
- 29:17Don't just hope it's going to happen.
- 29:19Make a reservation. Tell her, like, let's go.
- 29:21Did you do it with your team? So every Friday or every month,
- 29:25sit down with your team members, sales team.
- 29:27Hey, let's talk about this. Let's not just talk about
- 29:30outcome. How many sales you got?
- 29:31Talk to me about your process. How many calls were you making
- 29:34on a daily? Oh, you got distracted on
- 29:36Facebook. We're playing on LinkedIn.
- 29:38Let's talk about next week, how we're going to stop spending an
- 29:40hour on social media, spend 15 minutes mining, Then you're
- 29:43going to spend that other 45 minutes on the phone or sending
- 29:46emails. And so that process, really what
- 29:49that does is when it raises your awareness level 2, it creates a
- 29:51sense of accountability with your peers, with your direct
- 29:55reports. Because every week you're
- 29:57saying, hey, we've identified 3 things next week you need to do
- 30:01or not do. By accepting this, you're
- 30:03agreeing to it now, get to hold you accountable.
- 30:05And then the overall scheme, It puts yourself and them on a
- 30:08level to continually grow because you can't hold them
- 30:11accountable. To Start, Stop, continue.
- 30:13If you're not doing it yourself, and if you're not continually
- 30:16growing, why would the people you lead ever want to follow
- 30:18along? I don't know why.
- 30:21Yeah, that would make sense. Like, what a good.
- 30:25Like Mantra and and and have it to build.
- 30:27Is that what you journal about? Do you write that down in your.
- 30:30Yeah, so I I do that. I there's a couple of things
- 30:32that I do. I do the start, stop, continue.
- 30:34And then there's a version of it called well, better how, which
- 30:37is essentially what you do well today.
- 30:39What do you want to do better tomorrow?
- 30:40How So not just, hey, I want to be more focused tomorrow.
- 30:44Well, how are you going to be? Well, I'm going to put my phone
- 30:46in the other room during work sessions instead of having it in
- 30:49here. So I do that and and actually we
- 30:51did a, we created a journal last year.
- 30:54We actually just sold out of them that had pieces of that.
- 30:58It had that daily reflection of one thing you did well today.
- 31:00What do you want to do better? And we just finished the draft
- 31:04of the new one for that reason. If we wanted it in there every
- 31:07day to reflect back, start stock, continue, raise your
- 31:10awareness so you can change your behavior and raise your
- 31:12standards. But my journaling process is
- 31:14pretty basic. I write down what I'm grateful
- 31:16for that morning. I write down what are my 3
- 31:19targets for the day, only set 3 and everything else on my To Do
- 31:22List is if I have time and then what am I excited about?
- 31:26What am I looking forward to? And then at the end of the day,
- 31:28it's just a quick thought of like, what did I do?
- 31:30Well, where do I need to be more intentional tomorrow?
- 31:34Yeah. So you are a morning journal, or
- 31:36it sounds like, or a routine morning person morning journal.
- 31:39Usually when I get back from the gym, I get out the door, I get
- 31:42to the gym, I listen a little bit of music and then when I
- 31:44come back I usually pick up some coffee on the way back and then
- 31:47sit in ready to rock'n'roll. Yeah, kudos, man.
- 31:50I love that. I'm a big journaling fan myself
- 31:53and. Yeah.
- 31:55There's pause the journal and and I think it can really shape
- 31:58shift what and how your mind is. And I know you you say that you
- 32:01know what it matters the most between the ears is what happens
- 32:04in the in the day, right. So whatever we write on paper is
- 32:06kind of what's in our ears anyway.
- 32:08So we can help create that in a more intentional way.
- 32:12Yeah. Yeah, So wrapping up here, you
- 32:16know, what would you say would be your one thing that you'd
- 32:20want to leave folks with who are potentially, you know, wanting
- 32:24to compete and compete every day with themselves and lead a
- 32:28better life and be a better leader?
- 32:30What would you tell them? Yeah, we'd say the best thing is
- 32:33to raise kind of the selfawareness process and just
- 32:36take out something as simple as, like for those of us watching
- 32:41just a yellow notepad and have it on your desk in your office.
- 32:45And at the start of every day, write down what you
- 32:48intentionally like. What's your intention for the
- 32:50day? What's your primary target?
- 32:51Just one thing. Take you 2 seconds.
- 32:53And then at the end of the day, when you get ready to leave, I
- 32:55want you to ask yourself, what's one thing I want to do better
- 32:58tomorrow? And then what's my number one
- 33:01priority for tomorrow? And the reason I want you to do
- 33:03at the end of the day is when you get into the office, what
- 33:05happens? We have emails, we have people
- 33:07talking to us. We have chaos.
- 33:09We tend to let other people's priorities take over our own.
- 33:12And so setting our agenda and our attention intention at the
- 33:15end of the day allows us to start the following with it
- 33:18right in front of us. There's no questions, no
- 33:20thinking. It eliminates a choice.
- 33:21It just says hey, go. And so just starting that
- 33:24process. Because the idea that we talked
- 33:26about the very beginning in the pause of getting to your best
- 33:29self is not an overnight transition, but it is a
- 33:32transition overnights. If we just take teeny tiny steps
- 33:36every single day, and on the days that we fall short,
- 33:40understand it happens. Nobody's perfect.
- 33:42Winning in life is not about being perfect, but how you
- 33:44respond to imperfections. And I love, love that idea
- 33:47because my favorite sport is football.
- 33:50Quarterbacks are not perfect throwing the ball.
- 33:52Teams never play perfect, even if they win.
- 33:54Big guy makes a mistake, guy misses a block, somebody gets a
- 33:57penalty. There's always mistakes.
- 33:58There's always things that happen.
- 34:00How quickly can you bounce back? Can you make sure that one bad
- 34:03day doesn't turn into two and then four and then eight?
- 34:05Can you cut it always off at 1? And so this little process
- 34:09allows us to set intentions every day.
- 34:11It takes less than 5 minutes and really set you up for success in
- 34:15that continual growth into the best possible leader you can be.
- 34:19Love it. And it's right there on your
- 34:21notepad when you walk in to your desk and you remember and like,
- 34:25Oh yeah, that's it. And then that sets you up for
- 34:27the cycle that day too. So that's really great.
- 34:30Thank you, Jake. Thank you for sharing so much of
- 34:32your wisdom today and just. Your story and and how you
- 34:36continue to to thrive in your world.
- 34:38Where can we find more out about you?
- 34:40I know your book is out there. I want people to learn more
- 34:44about what you are working on right now too.
- 34:46Yeah, so best website for me is compete everyday.com.
- 34:50If you're on LinkedIn, just search Jake Thompson would love
- 34:53to connect with you. And then for anybody listening,
- 34:55I've got a free leaders checklist you can get.
- 34:58It's on the website www.weekendsseparatewinners.com.
- 35:03A weekend separate winners is a phrase that I love to use
- 35:06because it's the idea of spending 15 minutes Saturday, 15
- 35:10minutes Sunday to plan your week.
- 35:12And that doesn't seem like much you're thinking it's the
- 35:15weekend. But if you spend 15 minutes, say
- 35:17Saturday morning recapping the week, checking little boxes
- 35:21Sunday, planning your week ahead over the course of a year, that
- 35:24weekend 30 minutes stacks up to 26 hours of progress towards
- 35:29your goals. And so we we always emphasize
- 35:32the importance of like, those little steps.
- 35:34And So what we do is every Saturday morning at 6:00 AM, I
- 35:37send out just a training e-mail to like leadership performance.
- 35:40Like, here's a lesson on accountability and it's a quick
- 35:43story and then implementation. So here's an idea.
- 35:46Here's something I read, here's something that happened to me.
- 35:47Here's how to implement it. And it comes with just a free
- 35:50download. When you sign up of, like, a
- 35:52checklist similar to this that starts stop.
- 35:54Continue with yourself and your team.
- 35:56Like things to think about that will help you be more successful
- 35:59and more importantly, more influential as that leader in
- 36:02the workplace. That sounds essential for anyone
- 36:04who wanted who wants to kind of shift gears a little bit and do
- 36:07something more intentional or do something different.
- 36:09What a great place to start so. Weekends Say it again.
- 36:12What's the weekends? Separate winners.
- 36:15Weekendsseparatewinners.com Getting the leadership checklist
- 36:19Awesome. Well, Jake, thank you.
- 36:21Thank you so much for being here today.
- 36:23And it's an honor to share your work in the world.
- 36:26Appreciate it. Thanks for stopping by.
- 36:28You bet. Thanks for having me.
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