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The Commanders are a disaster: Seahawks-Commanders Post Game Recap · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sir, we're going back to another episode of shopping that pie case.
0:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I am, I don't have energy for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm Jamal, uh, jury AJ's in here.
1:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, if you're wondering, we were scheduled to be on at 1130, but, um, we're not by the weight of 45 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's not in this part of case.
1:16
[SPEAKER_01]: when Washington is getting a ass whooped.
1:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Currently, we are starting this at the top of the fourth quarter.
1:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Washington's down 30, 7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can go ahead and chunk this one up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's checking in live, man, java, see money, a money, DLBD, and Yoshi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's going to be checking and shown.
1:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate y'all checking in.
1:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, just get this shit off your chest, bro.
1:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like subscribe on that good stuff.
1:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, this is, uh, like, the, the, the, the embarrassing loss is going to be the pilot for Washington, um, and I think like earlier in the season, we've said, this is the worst one on the, on the, in the Quinn air, and we've caught ourselves saying that at least two or three more times throughout the season, and this one is another one.
2:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Sam Donald started the game.
2:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was six.
2:12
[SPEAKER_01]: 17 for 17, okay 16 for 16, four touchdowns in the first half.
2:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jigba went all for 119 in the first half.
2:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Tori Horton, two touchdowns in the first half.
2:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I don't know what to make.
2:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what, I don't know where we were in trouble,
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[SPEAKER_01]: was the actual first draft for Seattle or the second draft for Seattle, the 90, the 90 yard drive where they overcame four penalties in a drive that was also in the such down.
2:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the second one was the jail of the late fumble.
2:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that was the one that that sealed it for me on knowing that this scene just, they didn't come out prepared.
3:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed like they didn't come out prepared, but they also you just knew like,
3:08
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no saving the talent, the coaching combination.
3:13
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no fixing whatever it is that's going to exist for the last nine games or eight games of the season.
3:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a, I think you can talk about like full heartily you could talk about after this game like who's going to be fired?
3:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who it is.
3:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is not the motion talking.
3:36
[SPEAKER_01]: This is literally like we're witnessing what's going on in prime time.
3:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just being honest, like something's going to happen.
3:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know what it is.
3:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think you learned a lot more in this particular game about some people co-to-staff was some personnel decisions.
4:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, honestly, for this game to blame,
4:03
[SPEAKER_00]: really boils down to Dan Quinn and Adam Peters.
4:07
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the two shot callers at the organization.
4:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You're seeing that teams that may be younger, you know, Mike McDonald is a newer coast of the league, but boy, the heat out coast of hell out of Cliff Kingsbury to begin this game.
4:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Cliff has had no answer offensively for anything Mike McDonald is doing.
4:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like guys aren't separating.
4:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's the whole bunch of issues from a person else standpoint.
4:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't have the talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if you take away the injuries, I mean, it's not like you'd lost like Nick Bosa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not like you'd lost, tired, you'd hit like, you lost regular players.
4:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we sit here and try to champion for such average players.
4:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But then you see guys like a JSN, go out here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: knowing he's the main target offensively and just go off.
5:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is a true number one wavacy verse.
5:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's your turn's cooking.
5:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Marshall on trade animals.
5:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody got it, bro.
5:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like that popular line.
5:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Adrian Broness said, anybody can't get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: American, African, Mexican, like anybody can't get it.
5:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody got cooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even on opportunities that the ball may not have went to JSN side, he was cooking, you know, and that's the main guy to stop.
5:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And then even from like the office's standpoint, like the first 15, Cliff didn't run the ball the whole first drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they had maybe seven plays, there was no attempt to run the ball from an actual play called his standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jaden just had to run because nobody was open.
5:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Like sure that that's how I knew that the game was over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew in the first possession game was over because they had no simple answers to what Mike McDonald was doing from a defensive standpoint and they didn't even attempt to run the ball to set the tone.
6:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like, what can you really do?
6:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, this is not me saying it from a emotional standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not emotional necessarily when it comes to this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of season, at the end of season, Adam Peters and Dan Quinn both got to go because I cannot go into year three with having the same guys calling the shots with bringing in players, building up a roster.
6:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I still got my rookie quarterback on a on a rookie contract going into year three.
6:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to shake some shit up majorly and get the same on a new, a new angle.
6:51
[SPEAKER_00]: he don't he don't got the players cliff still got the quarterback to work with and he's not even helping helping put him in proper situations nothing nothing is working
7:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so what I was going to say, I don't think you're wrong.
7:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this was a clear case and like, it don't, it don't matter what you call, like you getting your ass fried, right?
7:10
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no disagreements about that.
7:14
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, people are going to be going to become collateral.
7:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So it ain't no point in defending.
7:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Joe, what's going to have this for eight more games?
7:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And Cliff K's Murray, like, clearly, I don't know what the hell you're playing.
7:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever hope you thought you had to to win this game, you have Zack Erson as your extra pass blocker on a fourth and 15 and what do you think what do you think is going to happen if you have him as your extra blocker on a fourth and 15 jaden jaden Daniels has two seconds ago to go and guess what a pressure came from.
8:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, like that one false star is like bro.
8:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you not a veteran quarterback like even even right now Jayden Dan should not be in this game right now.
8:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, put Marcus Mario then like what what is he still playing?
8:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they got the proof.
8:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're trying to prove.
8:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Take out all your take out your main guys.
8:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to lose bro.
8:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a rap and you could say maybe you needed this from a standpoint of being able to get closer to premium talent.
8:28
[SPEAKER_00]: from a draft standpoint, but it's like, can you really allow Adam Peters to go and pick these players again?
8:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he built this roster, bro.
8:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no matter how you look at it, no matter if you feel like it's a culture failure, he picked these players to go along with the coaching staff that he has.
8:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He also took away resources from draft picks to add certain players.
8:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you allow him to go get you another guy?
8:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not necessarily the greatest fan of Tray Amos.
9:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Mikey, Mikey is cook.
9:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people still go, he made an interception tonight.
9:09
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, congratulations.
9:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He's cook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Marcia and his cook.
9:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Quon is cook.
9:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Reeves is cook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole secondary, like when they show,
9:19
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what, look, look at the hit that bill just got, got to take it down.
9:24
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean when you sit there and look at, you know, the, let's say PFF grades, I'd never really bring this up in conversation.
9:33
[SPEAKER_00]: When they went through the secondary, everybody was pretty much dead last, like whatever
9:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They were they were in the bottom like how many defensive backs can really play in the NFL starting wise They were all at the bottom So it's just like what can you really do man Louis who's playing in cover is like no one's getting past us Let's
10:06
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, first of all, I think it's too premature to talk about firing Adam Peters.
10:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes, sure he deserves some criticism for some of the guys he's brought in, but Truppy told he has to get full autonomy from the ownership to spend money.
10:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I know a lot of fans want to spend money right now.
10:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't like the one-year deals, but I think that comes from ownership a lot and that tying up too much financially into certain players.
10:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Adam Peters, I mean, again, it's too premature to talk about firing him, but I do think that he's going to have a bit more system urgency after this all season.
10:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get forever to build these things.
10:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's too early to talk about firing him after the season two, but at the same time, this should light a fire up on their his ass.
10:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, you have to go out there with a bit more urgency.
10:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He also has to get the permission from the ownership, but the fact that a matter is last three games.
10:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You've been out of score to this point a hundred and ten to thirty six and the last three games I mean in this game here nationality two of those games have been on national TV last night last week It was Monday night.
11:10
[SPEAKER_02]: This is Sunday night This is the type of thing right here This is like the cherry on top something has to happen.
11:16
[SPEAKER_02]: What what can happen and it may not be fair to some people, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to do so you have to show that you have a pulse at this point.
11:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't keep running out there, getting in bears.
11:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's getting in bears is not even just a one thing.
11:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like playing a one thing because when it is bad, it's not just one thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it always, yes, you could start with Adam Peters.
11:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You could start with the person though.
11:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you're going to definitely have to start talking about the culture staff.
11:39
[SPEAKER_02]: These days are responsible for getting these guys ready every week.
11:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It ain't even just the defense.
11:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the offense to Cliff King's Berry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: hasn't really been the Cliff Kingsberry you've seen since last year.
11:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Now yes, some of that has to do with injuries.
11:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing for the defensive side of the football, but at some point you're expected to get more out of the units that you had.
11:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we could talk about the personnel too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's just coaching.
12:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the personnel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's going hand-to-hand when you're this bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bad everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just, oh, this guy's fine or this unit's fine, but they think no, when you this bad everybody's bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I expect something to happen this week with that something is I don't know, but John shares look pretty pissed in the booth man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think something has to change anything hurt.
12:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But bro, you can't, but bro, you can't make state with a lonely.
12:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's pop.
12:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's pause.
12:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just acknowledge?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we acknowledge the state with it?
12:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I just made, like he's trying to get out of here.
12:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't think that's my luck.
12:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But look, bro, he's gone.
12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not.
12:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He shouldn't have been in the game.
12:40
[SPEAKER_02]: He shouldn't have been in the game.
12:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think of him.
12:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
12:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
12:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this could get you fired right here.
12:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He should have been in the game.
12:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: He should have been in the game.
12:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We were just talking about this.
12:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Why was he in the game?
12:56
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you have to prove at this point?
13:00
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you have to prove at this point?
13:04
[SPEAKER_02]: That's malpractice.
13:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That's 100% malpractice.
13:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
13:19
[SPEAKER_02]: That's unbelievable, man.
13:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That's unbelievable, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 387, and he's just, no.
13:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I just seen it.
13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: What would we be just talking about then?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We literally just got to talk about it.
13:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it don't look gruesome,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It only grew somebody, definitely don't look good.
13:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, he's done for.
13:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He done for.
13:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like I just said, why, why is Jayden Dayo's in the game 30?
14:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have been in the game.
14:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the system.
14:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it, I said it to kick off.
14:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it to kick off my opening statements.
14:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Why the fuck is he in the game, 38 to seven?
14:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my practice.
14:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got to run it because you're not calling Flakes, bro.
14:25
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can't, you can't do shit like this.
14:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I said, Adam Peters and Dan Quinn, both may be need to be fired.
14:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think it has anything we to do with the ownership, lack of spending money.
14:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Harris is not cheap.
14:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, this is the route that they decide to go.
14:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, you got your quarterback with a knee injury.
14:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a harm.
14:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a harm.
14:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a harm.
14:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you ain't see.
14:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you didn't see it then.
14:59
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's even worse.
15:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You really didn't see it.
15:02
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
15:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
15:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That when you say, well, I'm like, I was like, no, no, no, no, bro.
15:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Because right now, right now, I just feel like, I just feel like I can't believe what just took place.
15:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my TV's behind, but it's like, I mean, the season was over before the injury, but it's just like, there's no way he should have been in a game 38 to 7.
15:39
[SPEAKER_00]: There's in the fourth quarter, there's no coming back.
15:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, anybody beyond dangling ass so hard doesn't know this is bad.
15:49
[SPEAKER_02]: This is bad, very bad.
15:51
[SPEAKER_00]: The first question he should be asked, post game.
15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Why was Jayden Daniel still in the game 38-7?
15:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to have an answer for that at all, because there's no answer for it.
16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to say, Jayden likes to compete.
16:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck that.
16:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to protect your play.
16:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is you being a coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to note when to protect your players.
16:15
[SPEAKER_00]: and go ahead and say, say, say your man, man.
16:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Fucking tour, toggle the bowl of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, man.
16:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Sign.
16:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And he might be bitch.
16:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It may not even be tour.
16:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he might be there.
16:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the backup film, man?
16:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He shit.
16:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I can, uh, or a squint or a squint or a squint, right?
16:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the hell of a game of view, man.
16:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my, I need a week up for that shit.
16:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a nine third.
16:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, mine.
16:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I need a week up for that.
16:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I may not ain't got to the game, but I may be in Spain.
16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You like, you want to take a look.
16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I go to that game for Look at that, but then cleanse faces.
16:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, you serious bro.
17:02
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's, let's log in for, we got, look, I got about 10, I got 10 more minutes left, right, let's see, let's, hey, everybody in the chat, man, get it off your chest, bro.
17:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I see y'all in here now, um, and from a, uh, community standpoint, you know, appreciate y'all checking in, uh, this is, man, no, bro, um, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
17:31
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17:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think for all of us, the bigger questions and what we came and why we started this show early is like this game is the catalyst to figure out like solutions and I do want to get my Adam Peters shit off my chest because you introduced the topic to start the show.
18:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the only thing that I have to say about him and like, I even said this was the old regime, right?
18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: If I understand your decisions, okay, who I give you like the leeway, cause I can't control shit.
18:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I give you the leeway to make your decisions, whether you write or wrong, I'm gonna, hey, we gonna see what's up.
18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But the last dream had no accountability.
18:28
[SPEAKER_01]: They deflected, they were some B-A-Ns.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: If you follow them, that was some, some whole shit, I didn't like that.
18:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I look at Adam and I understand what he's doing, right?
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to supplement the, um, the rebuilding phase with older veterans and hoping that these older veterans can at least hold the fort down while they gap continues to shrink, right?
18:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the younger players become veterans, they become better.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But the problem is like if these younger guys,
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: However many you invest in right because you traded away some draft picks to bring in some some that's who ain't doing enough for you Or you you move them for whatever reason you move them for right, but if these younger guys ain't striking and That first year what that second year and These older guys continue to like what a little way because of their age in there athleticism just Decreation just naturally
19:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that he is going to be all you.
19:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So I get where you come from, AJ.
19:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think that it's just, you gotta let him see like the transition part.
19:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I think the transition part is just as important as the early stages of the roster turnover.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think all of that, all of that is a big deal, but I will say like,
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to see here say another season is needed, but it's the truth.
20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the reality is for Adam Peters.
20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking about anybody else.
20:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm about that guy.
20:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Peters, you're going to need another season of Adam.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm not mistaken, I think didn't dampen only sign a three-year contract.
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can look right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 304, one of them.
20:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He mostly had coaches four years, but yeah, I remember.
20:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's not known, it's actually, they just don't how much you're making, but they don't know like the length of the contract.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you sign it through your contracts?
20:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, it's like you have to, the great businesses and where Josh Harris comes from, they know when it's time to pivot.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't want to be like the Miami Dolphins that may have needed to pivot off of Mike Medanio,
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: after that that playoff laws in Kansas City or Chris Greer.
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to pivot as fast as possible as you can, especially with how things are looking.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we started this conversation with, hey, with me saying, hey, J. doesn't even be in the game right now.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll start here at the seven.
21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, J. didn't have got hurt and possibly broke his arm
21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I still have a scene to the injury, but it's just like, what are we doing here?
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm seeing Adam Peters walk behind Jayden into the locker room.
21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Peters has a lot of the blame for this particular roster, how it looks and what the coaches are having to utilize.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the reason why Dan Quinn got the job,
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: was because of what he was able to do with having a late pass versus such as a micoparsons.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: When you sit back and look at even the draft this year in Connelly, Jr., like they needed a pass versus Donovan, as Raccoon was looking pretty decent for Dallas.
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was other guys that was out there.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't happen.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't necessarily say that the county junior pickhead has paid off.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, look, look at Seattle.
22:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They just, they just, they just been samed on them.
22:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Locke is now in the game.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You feel me?
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there was no reason for Jayden to still be in this game.
22:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's malpractice by the head coach with this situation because the risk of injury, especially with guys who's just trying to bounce back from other injuries is insane.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is not no high tape.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: This ain't no radio, stock, jockey talk.
22:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was fired, I was fired Dan Quinn, I didn't know what fired Adam Peters, and I would be going in the year three with Jayden Dance with a whole different approach and trying to really get him curated with the right coaches staff and someone that could really take advantage of this man's talents.
23:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Cliff is not moving enough guys around
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, it's just time to, it's just time to hit the, the reset button and that's perfect to be fine.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't allow Adam Peters to go into another offseason, manage in the free agency and also draft and players.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how many players that he's drafted so far if hit outside of JD, none, zero.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we could have that conversation before we get a body here outside of JD, who has looked promising.
23:43
[SPEAKER_02]: me do's of contributed, but I mean, yeah, you want you want more of a certain players.
23:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're really hurt you was last year, the second row of picks.
23:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Mikey had a good season last year, but consistency is the name of the game in a league.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And Mikey has a really deep depth to that this point.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even though he's had three and essentially, he's lost a lot of time this year.
24:02
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been picked on a lot of the time this year.
24:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Johnny Newton is, you know, we still don't really know what we have in him.
24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he doesn't really get the bulk of the snap.
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's not even on the field enough to make the kind of impact you want a second.
24:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, training this does look like a good pick.
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably been you're most assisted be back all season, but I promise that I think he's average or maybe he's slightly above average.
24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's okay with his thesis.
24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: No, and I'll see you in the close today.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like no one no one no one that has been drafted outside of Jayden looks promising.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Like no one has been like, oh, yeah, that person got a future.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like a continuous of the round of air stuff in regards of like how he was select the players, not him in comparison to Dan Quinn, but just from a person, no standpoint.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, even if all the guys were healthy defensively, you weren't gonna be getting home with Dietrich Wise.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's keep it a buck.
25:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He said to hedge, you weren't getting home with him.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Your secondary was still chopped up before it end.
25:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what,
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to, if you're going to be bad, you need to be bad younger, younger and bad.
25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the NBA, when you look at like the wits or something like that.
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: The wits is a bad, but it's fine at that bad because they're bad and they're young.
25:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Washington's bad, oh, which is not a good combination right now.
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So for me, I'm starting to crease the snaps to some of those vets like the Zach Urts, the Bobby Wagner's, because now you have to see what you have in the way that you didn't drag it.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna run.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody here?
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
26:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying though Ben sent it into the fire now let Jordan McGee take the rings over that middle line back and because you don't know how many damn needs you're going to need this all season like you want to see if you can at least start saying okay I could check the box off with this guy but right now I mean to AJ's point we really can't check the box off on some of these guys we can't check the box off on Johnny Newton right now
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't check the box off on Jordan Mickey.
26:22
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't check the box off on Ben's Senate.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So you might as well start doing that now because this season's pretty much over it.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think you really have a snowball chance to hell of making the playoffs because right now you're one in five in the NFC now.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to say no.
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so now be bad.
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you get as young as that's all.
26:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta say go for it.
26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not only the only thing with a P.
26:51
[SPEAKER_00]: No, don't be caught in the pants, baby.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying, don't be caught in the pants.
26:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be caught in the pants.
26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: As, as, as.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they are asked and they are going to be preparing to go see some ass because they're not going to no playoffs bro.
27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to take them to blue light bro.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to forget all about this.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: As, as, as.
27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like big Sean saying.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: As, as, as.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I am, bro.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, money for those that are listening, and not on the video, the visual money ball said that I'm in shock.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, I don't have any worries.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the, we on the stream saw the replay of the injury live.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw he got hurt.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't watching the play.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I saw the replay.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like my reaction was real.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I had nothing to say for five minutes.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dre was trying his best and he ain't had shit to say for real.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He was trying.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have anything to say.
27:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in shock.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I did, that's all shit when I'm in shock.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I was pissed.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I had no, yeah, man.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know you asked the question about Adam Peters.
27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, his draft, draft piece.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with y'all.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's really just Jayden and it hit his no blue chip guys.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: After two years, I think you got to see and it's actually a question that I asked Kevin Sheen last year when Jayden probably like when you know you've got to, when you know you've got a dog like it don't take
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: years or or or seasons to see that in somebody and that doesn't just a place of quarterback.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then if we're talking about other positions, it's the same thing.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you know, you got a dog, and they make in Splash Plades weekend a week out, and they're the reason they are, um, you're winning games because of them.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we ain't got no
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can say that they fit under that criteria.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so so how can you have possibly a top five pick next year and let that man do the picking you can you just can and that's not to say he a bad guy you just cannot have that person picking players again, bro like that that's just what it is.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing for sure, that, uh, that, that, that, Connelly Pickborough is going to be, it's, that Connelly decision is going to be the same.
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's comparable in terms of, like, Ziggin' his egg and right, like, it's comparable to the manual Forbes decision.
29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you had choices.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you, you, you, you watch and run into choices tonight.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick, I'm going to say safety.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you, you watch and run into them, bro.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, and it's, Josh Connelly has not shown promise, so you drafted a left tack with him switching the right tack.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Love the pick of, uh, get him, learn me tonsu.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But like outside of that, what, what can you have?
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you now also gave Terry McClellan extension.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just,
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: it's just malpractice in a sense like I mean I hate to say but that's what it is like you got guys that you need to re-sign like yes it's just the perfect time to pivot bro but I mean I know we gonna do another episode Tuesday I'm glad that we started the show all sooner because I'd be mad at shit starting Monday November 2nd I mean Monday November 3rd talking about
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no one would happen in the fourth quarter to the quarterback.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I would have to amg.
30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, I will want.
30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been my last thing I'll say on my end.
30:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate all the fans that came to support.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Travel dive yesterday at high to social.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the amazing event hosted by Clem Porterz and Jacuri Crossgett, a crosskey merit bill.
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, I appreciate them coming out a lot of support.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: People had an amazing time from what they've told us.
31:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, y'all keep supporting Trap and Dive.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this was this was a rough game.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I guess we're going to learn a little bit more about James injury in the next five to ten minutes.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But I still haven't seen it.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't you only need to watch it, bro.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's probably going to post up on your Twitter somewhere.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, anybody, any of the Twitter doctors give us any type of I do?
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's shit, bro.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you need to know.
31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need one of them.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't like, I also want to say my prayers out the jade and respectfully.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's your point.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like definitely going reach out to Mr. Gina, his mom and you know,
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And uh, yeah, man, uh, even if he didn't get hurt, still was thoughts on prayers for the season.
32:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, yeah, man, I think we're going to see a lot of things being talked about dialogue was and the worst part is.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You just lost it.
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you just lost like this to Seattle you play Detroit or Sunday All right, you got me all this.
32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's what we talked about.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I said that after the I was like, bro That's my main thing.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't overlooking Seattle I was looking at the team that's that's trying to put six the owners because of what happened in the playoffs And it just lost the date to changing the car.
32:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You know they coming up this time
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We lose and we keep losing.
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Things like Detroit, it's the lose.
32:49
[SPEAKER_00]: They come up with this confidence.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: A team that like, if you do par lays, you might put Jamison Williams for $2,000.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing a all-in-line.
32:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing a all-in-line.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: All-in-line.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Parlay next week from the world.
33:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Mary Gibbs going to have three touchdowns.
33:07
[SPEAKER_00]: They go have a all-in-line.
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: All-in-line.
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Emotion all games.
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to have a hundred yards receiving first half.
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna open when you do the over and over everything over I'm talking about Jackson tonight I said I don't know what the fuck y'all was thinking that big it he was gonna cook us I thought we was gonna win in the close game.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he cook this in a blowout Like dad damn all right, bro, all right
33:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We're done, um, again, like as I said, appreciate you supporting appreciate the most part of that yesterday, uh, at high social brand.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, bro, I wish you had some, I wish this podcast was falsified by like downhill, real repasado.
33:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I need a shot, bro.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we need to get sponsored by Hyde and they can do our show the next time.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: This week, we can talk this week is going to be madness.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep your head on the smuggle man.
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, could be some heads rolling.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So we might as well introduce it.
34:04
[SPEAKER_00]: What about you?
34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about great.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about killing niggas.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to kill somebody.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just saying.
34:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be talking about football.
34:18
[SPEAKER_02]: The girl read the comment.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be, it's going to be this season.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's the season.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This week is going to be very loud, rightfully so, rightfully so where.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's going to wrap it up for us.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back Tuesday as always.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to try to get this to guess.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I am talking to somebody now, but I guess I'll check it with them for you.
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take it easy, Brad, be safe, keep your head up, Brad.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, don't hold back, be loud, Brad.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure, make sure they know that we ain't, you know, they want some bullshit.
34:53
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I mean, it's damn sad, huh?
34:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Watchin' throw the bump, we gon' pick it up.
34:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You gon' light them hit the hole, and you gon' cut it up.
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: You gon' play the phone for the longer, you gon' put it up.
35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in.
35:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't be lookin' for the rest, don't don't fly again.
35:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep the helmet on, keep the police tight.
35:12
[SPEAKER_03]: You the type to wonder when, by any means, right?
35:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You should look alive, this is driving down.