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Washington OTA round up; Aiyuk speaks out on SF, but does it even matter? · Trap or Dive

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sad, hot, watching throw the ball, we gonna pick it up, you gon' light them hit the hole, you gon' cut it up, you gon' play the foot along, you gon' put it up, you're the foot inside, you hit it, put your pants in, don't be looking for the left, don't don't flag in, keep the hammer on, keep the police tight, you the type you want to win by any means, right, you should look alive, this is trippin' down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch this brand at 5K outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like it was on 120 degrees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was very dedicated to the bit bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I like I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to be like you as far as getting into shape.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had outside bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like with Sega said that shit, I immediately lit up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I just came from outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm playing with the dog and everything with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sweating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hot, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and honestly,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna put it this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always had this idea in my head that I'm gonna go as hard as I can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna out until I'm like 50 or 55.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna just not use the camera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's like, I don't, so I'm technically, I'm not putting the cap, but my idea is it's not gonna become, it's not gonna be that much of a priority then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I may still work out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I know it's like, it ain't those switch you could flip, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It ain't those, I don't think it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just, I just know, like, as I get older, bro, like, I'm pretty sure, like, other things will be priority, like, my kids, Louis willing if I have, at least one, um, bear interest, and when their interest is become a priority, I know, like, I'm just, I'm gonna have to push some things to the, to the wayside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think about this way, think about this way, I love burgers and pizza burger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got to last my hand for too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When the last time I had, well, technically, I had one in Columbia, but I only had like three slices, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before it, I had it in February.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's talking about a person that love his favorite junk food is pizza, you're a discipline person, bruh Yeah, so when I get the 50-50 I'm sorry It's out of the window, like I don't know That's how it went though, you know I'm making sure my kids straight, I'm like, oh, you only need to be doing this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What I do, you only need to be
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[SPEAKER_03]: How you turn the 55 more than you will turn this switch on to say, I grams what you I want to eat and I'm going to work out whatever I want to I ain't going to work out if I got my white bro got my my lady got my key What I mean come on what else what else I need where?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was bringing this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was bringing this good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was bringing that little good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I already got it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got the damn thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna show my patience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be like, look back on my day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was your boy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is your father.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, please let anybody around, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I will be telling them, hey, this dude right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, this ain't it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not your father, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's not going to just go away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I may just not be as disciplined, even I probably still work out, but I'm just able to talk about one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that's good to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ben said, welcome back, appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say you said it's too hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Granted, I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I chose to work out outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could have went to the gym, but then I was only going to have like an hour to live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, I'm on the school, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say you write, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hot is shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right, let's go ahead and, oh, shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mom, be honest with you, Brad, I ain't be keeping up with no news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to need you to, um, if you guys eclipse interviews.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm, I can talk to men as, like, the back of my hand, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need too much news, but I need something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, look, it ain't, it ain't, it ain't too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them, there isn't much going on with OTAs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the main thing and everybody sees it in the title, Brandon and I you spoke out as much as I genuinely don't enjoy discussing Brandon and I you got acknowledged.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, he's in a new cycle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I personally don't care that much about the stuff that he got going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not on matter of fact, let's start there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't understand like why we as a Washington fan base are so concerned about like the the daily Cummings and goings of like what's going on in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand technically because Washington is interested in our you that we are on a brand and are you watch right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that I'll never understand is why we are so invested in a situation in San Francisco that hasn't led anywhere yet right and and I guess what doesn't help is the fact that I you did speak speak speak out a couple of days ago now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and like he's, I wouldn't say this is him sharing his out of the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is more of a person that's trolling, um, and, and talking his own shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he didn't necessarily say what's going on, um, but like he spoke and,
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[SPEAKER_01]: For those who are unaware he released two videos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One was full of an analogy compared to pickup basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the second video was a follow up just addressing the fact that the 49ers I met, they paid him a large sum of money and a span of eight months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think it was 50 million is what he said in eight months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm not, like I said, I'm not at the point where like I'm interested in talking about him every day, but I do understand why we are here, Shrapper Dive, Commander Said, talking about the Washington Commanders, I'm acknowledging that and we do got to give it some airtime, even though we control the narrative of the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about it, I personally can care less, what he's talking about in, I can care less about what the Niners, what their intentions are because nothing has happened yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like I use boldness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like how he likes to throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I respect that, now that I appreciate it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't really move, you need to for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It, you know, it is funny to talk about I, you would Washington, because everyone, like the media or at least, I mean, I noticed the day a period, what's talking about June or not even in July yet we're still in the O.T.
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[SPEAKER_03]: period, as many camps coming coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not a lot of news out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The franchise is not dysfunctional, like it used to be, where there was always some kind of news cycle going on with Dan Snyder was here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's just all about football.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it is funny to see when you listen to the radio, you could turn on any station in 1980, 106.7 a fan, and you just hear to talk about any new update on Brandon IU.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it just goes to show it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like everyone's expecting Washington to be the destination.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think we kind of expected.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mama, no, you aren't really on the brand and I, you trained at all, like you're not a fan, but I think everyone just kind of expects brand and I have to be a commander.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So anything he does, almost like a terrible cornering did something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like any news of brand and I,
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[SPEAKER_03]: gets treated here and he's already in the team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which is very interesting to be like, I'm out of the day to day stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't care about the videos and all it like, I heard a bunch of talk about, oh, you know, Brandon, now you just crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why is he talking?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I empathize with Brandon and I you could a little bit, you know, I'm going to be honest with you and I know like that's not the popular opinion or at least, you know, coming from the San Francisco side, you know, everyone looks at Brandon and I you got his crazy like who walks away from millions, who handles this the way they do and I'm like, I said this on the show that's me, he's to me, it sounds like a man standing on principle and he's not happy with his care situation in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And at this point, you have to ask, why is this going on so long?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, who benefits from this going on from so long?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Brandon, at this point, is out of this control.
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[SPEAKER_03]: San Francisco, how do you benefit from this other than you're going to keep getting asked questions about Brandon, because he's still in your team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You haven't done anything in the room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No one's going to treat for Brandon and I you and I think Brandon and I you kind of knows that that's why he's doing these videos Like you know, like how can I take trade value like Brandon and I you know his destination and to me Personally, I feel like
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[SPEAKER_03]: He must have some kind of guarantee, maybe he's talked to Adam Peters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a Jaden Daniels, because Jaden Daniels is not the general manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jaden Daniels is that mixed science.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Adam Peters at the end of the day is the end all beyond when it comes to personal decisions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So to me,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like Brandon and I, you can add a Peter's must have some kind of promise on some kind of guarantee in order to say, this is we're going to side you Brandon, like talking from add a Peter standpoint, we're going to side you we're going to bring you in, you know, maybe we're not going to give you a bit caught that is going to be a conditional thing, whatever the case may be, but I feel like Brandon knows what he's going at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He can't take his treat value at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But 49 is at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's all out of spite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything's out of spite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I get the 49est fans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They want to cheer on the team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They want to, you know, support their team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Aaron is better with commandous fans who are doing the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They want to support their team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like there's no resolution or this is not about benefiting anyone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like 49 is not benefit from brand and I, you still been on Air Ross.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's still been a question at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 49 is our pretty much saying we want to hurt you the way you heard us, because it's not about money anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're already took as money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You took the guarantees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't fight for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't take me to the players union.
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[SPEAKER_03]: any of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He basically took the money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not fighting for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was all about just I don't want to be here anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the 49th is taking a step above like no, not even just the money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We want your career done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's on some corporate billion it's like, oh, no, that's what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, that's going to be like, mall, like, deal with some, like, billion, that's like shit, like, you, you're not feeling, you'll never work anywhere in the United States again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I see with the 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they know he's going to get somewhere, Brad, but I think they trying to make sure that I do think that they feel like they can stall them out as long as they can, just because they want to, they hold control over that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that they feel like that negatively impacts Brandon and I you can, they even acknowledge
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who did, but like they don't, they know it's not a rush to like they're not in a rush to release them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also begs the point, like I had a conversation we had a conversation on here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you said on Twitter, I was like, just asking us the question like, how long are y'all willing to wait in order to, I mean, before you decide to like make other moves for, I mean, a round I, you like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they can wait as long as August.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the conversation with Spotrake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know I'm so sorry, I'm trying to bangle this name, but we all know Spotrake, I know this is big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just know like that conversation alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even you just hear conversations from 49ers reported and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't stop at June 1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we know at this point, I was already probably going to stretch that till September, whatever it is, yes, September 1st, where they have to make a move and and like at that point, it's like, well, I mean, you could clearly somebody to get side them and clearly we know there's mutual interest on both sides between him and Washington, but like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you do that for a year or do you get somebody who's been around and been around meaning like who's played the last two years who's had some type of action last two years who's also a veteran.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like what that pool looks like as September 1st or even before September 1st before training camp starts, so maybe next month who knows, but at the same time, you in a situation where
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got decisions to make and it's also like, if you will in a wait, cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just two things and I'm cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two things, because you can easily see how China can't place out with the receivers that you get and say, either I like what we have or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This ain't enough, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make that decision after you evaluate your roster, you'll receive a group of ideas, this ain't ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need, we need some more help and then you can decide in and there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that's where, like, that's another alternative where, uh, I mean, added now you, either in either scenario doesn't hurt, but also it's like, if I like what we get, do I take this risk?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know, that's all for watching to think about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, I mean, you weren't wrong, Jerry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not in, I use both, but at this point, I felt like, I'm the dead horse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I guess I felt like, where, I'm like, whatever, man, like, I don't even look more like I said, I mean, don't you feel like the 40 that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a bit petty here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they are being petty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what is the reason for the pettyness of this point?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think they're being petty and I also, for people out there who think that they sabotage their own money camp because they didn't want to come, I think that's, yeah, I think that's just people who's like like neck deep into like the, the, the, the, the, the wasteland of of this stuff on the conspiracy wasteland, but yeah, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They pretty much outlined it and from back from reporting to even public statements like they're not going to do him any favors and that's by by any means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think it's petty do I do I feel or empathize with I you I mean to some extent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also don't know his story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know his side of the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, at this point it's like a situation where, you know, he's just dropped a football and, you know, we'll see what that goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's all on him at this point, like, not even former players, current players can't really understand why he did the things that he did, like, and people say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's just on him to really like build up his reputation here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of Madrid is factual, because I mean, the 49ers had moved off from a football standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They drafted, why, because he was second round, Strid Blender from Ole Miss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They still got Ricky Pierce all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They moved off from Duan Jennings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They went in the choir, Christian Kirk, and Mike Evans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So even from a football situation, he doesn't fit in with their plans
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[SPEAKER_02]: for the 2025 season that he believes that Brennan, I think this played his last game as a four-dinner.
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, what are you doing at this point?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you voted the guarantees, you got your money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you did pay them close to $15 million, but that's just the structure and of the contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody that gets the extension for future projections,
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[SPEAKER_02]: they thought that he would continue to be able to blossom, but we already know how the contract negotiation period went.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, for him to even get that deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was doing a social media post.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was going interviews with the pivot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it the pivot?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he did an interview with the pivot, and he also did an interview with nightcap, was Shannon Sharpen and Chad Ocho Sanko.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, just about his frustrations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We heard about the trade talks, supposedly stillers, the Browns, whatever, like he learned a lot about how they felt in regards to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't able to separate that from a negotiations standpoint, business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, just it just blew over and now, you know, you got someone where nobody else is going to trade for him because he's already made it known that he wants to be a Washington commander.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's rocking
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[SPEAKER_02]: how many times in the history of NFL have you seen somebody rocking another team's gear while they're still under contract with a current regime you film you like there's every inclination in his mind that the relationship that he has with Adam Peters is agent his relationship with Adam Peters was days back the college at UCLA and also the fact that we keep saying just friend but no
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[SPEAKER_02]: everything points to him wanting to be in Washington.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So no team is going to make the effort.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a collective of like San Francisco being petty, like what's the point?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they're being petty to the fact that they don't want him to succeed in his future or with the next team, because then they're going to look bad.
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to look like how the fuck the job mismanious situation.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's able to blossom and get back to who he was when you guys extended him,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're dampening his chances of being able to go in and rebound his career because if they wait until September, like, he's not going to pick up no offense that quickly, he's not going to be able to get immediately on the field, like you're not going to be able to get thrown into the mix and we're just going to say Washington because that's where he wants to be and that's the team that ideally wants him.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where it's just like even Adam Peters in my in my book,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's also playing too much with a bit of hardball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yo, you know you want this guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know that you really want to add him to the roster.
22:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You know that you still need help at the Y-Recibe position because of the fact that you went and tried to acquire out of Pierce for over 30 million plus, you know, thank God, that was a bullet with that because he's, he's have an ankle surgery and may not even be ready for week one.
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you went and tried to acquire or Romeo doves that didn't happen as well.
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: just just trade damn pick and make your conditional based off how many how many percentage it's an absolute play and get the guy on the phone.
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't win every negotiation but also that goes back to Adam Peter Thomas and Francisco, they know each other well enough, they know who's stubborn with certain things and I just feel like it'd be great to get
22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because the reality is, how is he going to get back into actual football shape like you just wasting a bunch of time and maybe San Francisco does something to September or the last week of August.
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know that's that's the inevitable thing here.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that I you business extremely frustrated.
23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a man that necessarily can articulate himself the best.
23:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say privately.
23:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I have been advocating and texting him like to explain his story better.
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, I think couple of these videos.
23:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't explain his side thoroughly enough.
23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It gives you little inklings and whatever you know, little as boys, all this stuff, that's cool.
23:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Like us that come from the culture and got business to street smarts, we understand it.
23:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of the mass media, they don't know how to decipher those words, they don't know how to put those analogies together, like I get it.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He like, they mad that they paid me 50 million and I didn't have to produce anything of a turn.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Traditionally, that's the structure of a contract that's going to pay you out in that format and that's where he's just like they don't want to let me go because of that, but in actuality is just Somebody got a step up and be the bigger person in this picture and that's either San Francisco
24:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I use together, or that's Adam Peters and say, hey, I give you a six or seven round pick, and we got to negotiate the contract anyways.
24:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like the contract won't stand.
24:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to push back on a little bit and and reason why I say that what if Adam Peters?
24:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And I understand that no one's fond on Washington's receiver room is a stance right now, but he may be a little bit more, I don't think he thinks that.
24:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he knows that he's a little bit more fond on what the receiver room is as it stands right now.
24:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they may look at IU because of bonus addition.
24:51
[SPEAKER_03]: But what if the vision for an IU is beyond this year?
24:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, so what if we get IU cassette timber?
24:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I use good enough to play in 2027-2028.
25:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's still at that age where, you know, he's he can get to his primalies in his primate.
25:07
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to play for a couple of years.
25:09
[SPEAKER_03]: What if the vision is beyond this year versus, you know, your scenario, what you're saying,
25:14
[SPEAKER_03]: He needs to just go ahead and give up the pick and give it right now because we need him ready for week one.
25:19
[SPEAKER_03]: What if they're okay with him being ready or being available?
25:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they think the wife is even who is the stands right now?
25:26
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get them through week five.
25:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I get the office by week five.
25:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So to speak.
25:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just my point.
25:33
[SPEAKER_03]: They may have a vision for you just outside of he needs to be available for week one.
25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think, I, you just based off the age, yeah, your vision is going to be beyond just the 2021 season, but to you confidently speak to say that you'll have your job, 2021, like, I mean, that's just the reality.
25:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, maybe,
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Adam Peters.
25:57
[SPEAKER_03]: How long can he get right here?
25:59
[SPEAKER_02]: When he's 26, that's a question.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my point.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I would just want to get the trade.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Because when 49ers talk about trade, they're not expecting a third or second round of fourth round pick.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: They know us a day through pick.
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you could just do it with conditions where if you play 60% in the snaps, that's the round pick now goes up to a fifth round pick.
26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: If you truly believe in this player so much and you want to add them,
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it to give up a fifth, six or seven-round pick if you believe that he's going to hit the markers that you want for not only just 2,026, but also provide you some some death on the 2,027 roster because we also know that there's no like lock why receiver wise on this dev chart going forward.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just somebody you got to give in at some point and maybe Washington doesn't give in.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they just play out and and wait it out and see what happens, but I just think that what the 49ers are going to IU.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, he can't utilize the NFL PA in a sense, because he didn't agree.
27:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't agree with the fact that he wanted to challenge his guarantees,
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: from a public standpoint, like your GM said, this is, this is his last game as a 49er.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You have moved on from a personnel standpoint while I receive a wise.
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like what, what are we doing here?
27:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, y'all just don't get questioned about it every single day in training camp.
27:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I guess the GM don't write an answer that Kyle got to answer that.
27:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And the teammates do, but you know, what, what are we doing here?
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that maybe if IU could articulate themselves better, maybe could put himself in a better situation to have had this already completed, but at the end of the day, Washington needs help at the YBC position.
28:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And then inevitable is IU is in John Washington, just don't know the timeline.
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what has so many people of intrigue and disgust
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Conversation around it is because like it's hard as fuck to get a wide receiver and NFL especially one as talented as BA no matter if he hasn't played in the last year and a half it is hard to acquire wide receivers that can't actually produce in this league.
28:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Washington has it hit on like a in-house wide receiver in a long time a size from Terry McCoy.
28:38
[SPEAKER_02]: if you remove Terry from the picture, who's the last wide receiver Washington has hit on from a draft standpoint?
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even...
28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a crock anyway.
28:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but what is even that?
28:51
[SPEAKER_02]: You feel me?
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just like, let's move James and Crowler from that.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nobody, like they've taken chances.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that, you know, it's an unfortunate situation and I think more videos are to come with IU.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know if the messaging is going to come off as clear as it should.
29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to get you not a guy that really like talks as much, but I don't think.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, okay, if it was Terry McLean in this situation, he would articulate himself so much better that people would understand what is truly going on.
29:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how Terry did last year, at the Eastern Motors press conference, that you know, was
29:32
[SPEAKER_02]: was a random thing, but he articulated himself well enough that people could understand what was going on, how you treat we felt.
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that, you know, IU is just not one of those guys that's going to be able to get the messaging across.
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where you get DC, Lydia, interviewing a bunch of San Francisco beatwriters and all of them are saying different things.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's messaging is different.
29:57
[SPEAKER_02]: that they've interviewed, whether it be from Grant, to Jennifer, to Matt Barrow's to David Lombardi, everybody's messaging that covers the team is different, which is helicopter fusing that they're not all on the same page as far as their correspondence back, but
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll see what happens because I think even West Walker said in the interview that I seen a clip of yesterday, you know, he likes the wire receiver room, but he feels like wire receiver is the hardest position to adjust to from collegiate to professional level, just like from a cover standpoint.
30:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said Antonio Williams had a lot of work.
30:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe many can't they'll see much more because they can get a bit more physical and maybe some things shake up before trying to count Because there's also that fine digs to consider in the mix as well.
30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So Um Say you see it one's the last time we tried to receive it early in the third round.
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That It I will probably be dogs and
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't really, they don't really have a certain position.
31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They ain't really, you know, really go to.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't really have a history of going too high and receiver is one of them.
31:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You can change the 2027 a big time.
31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great last coming up.
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, and I think you should.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So OTAs, matter of fact speaking of online cost diversity, I think have y'all had a chance to look at.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I got had a chance to look at the clip that's going to viral, no, no, not for Jayden Daniels, but because of the person who's lately, yeah, yeah, yeah, for those who are listening or even watching enough to know what I'm talking about, who's got Quincy Avery.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he is a quarterback teacher or trainer, um, I don't know him like in death, but I've known of him since I've been on social media, just sport space, uh, semblance that so he comes to come to cross the timeline.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he's had some NFL quarterbacks in his, uh, in his camp.
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So the commanders put out a clip a couple of days ago, Jayden Daniels, dropping back, finding Bencini on the and he says he says, quote unquote, oh no.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: When I see this, I probably see something different to everybody else and what I'm seeing right here would be a big concern.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got over 900,000 impressions, and you know, when he responded to specifically in the comments that kind of validated his thoughts, because I mean, he co-signed it.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody said, the progress is crazy.
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's either a major issue with the play design, not being linear or J5, isn't sure where his progress in start.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not a huge deal this early with the new OC, but they better fix whatever is off immediately.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and Quincy says that's it.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Go signing.
33:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, now.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I somebody asked me how I felt about this.
33:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually, I understood what they said somebody said, what do I think?
33:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I understood what they said, but just like Brandon, I use conversation.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry, do I care?
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't give it.
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that shouldn't elevate no sense of urgency or no.
33:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing to be concerned about in my head.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can understand the costlessness or caution about if you look at his eyes in the house parratic they were while somebody who's intently looking at the court of acquisition can be concerned.
34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But you just don't know enough from this clip.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and and I encourage anybody out there to look at the risk and media, you'll see the one that has over one million views, like it's clear as day June 9.
34:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but what I what I am here to talk about is first off.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you all have any thoughts when you saw how big this blew up over the last couple of days?
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in recent radio, global radio, B-Mitch isn't, that's the city argument, but you know his, his thing when you get close to media, he starts.
34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He started the app and he said, be Mr. Drone by the way, to that that's what yeah, be did.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He did say, be Mr. Drone.
35:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, he also said, well, I mean, he heard the clip.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Mr. Hill, Hill, Quince, you don't know what they were talking about.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, that's, I mean, that's is go to, so like, fair game is fair game.
35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, all that to say, I didn't think nothing of the JD
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, a person can point that out and have valid points, but still be off if you don't know the full context of what's going on, because what if that was something intentional, right, just to get his eyes moving one way or or a few seconds, the second level, but he knew where he was going the whole time, like, or like he could have been slightly off on that one play.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but at the end of the day,
35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fact that this blew up to the level that it did.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell us, me, Brad, we need, we go on here if someone is possible.
36:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We have reached that point.
36:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think why as viral is because of the vagueness, then also how Quincy handles himself on social media.
36:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Quincy.
36:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I'll break his second.
36:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just like, everyone.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know I know Quincy, you got a little bit sad to them for sure.
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually even asked him to come on today, so he's on me.
36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to take advantage of what was going on.
36:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like Fred is OTAs, man.
36:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, mom, we have no clue what was being asked if him out of that play.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what they practiced in on.
36:43
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what they tested.
36:47
[SPEAKER_02]: everything is is getting up and playing.
36:51
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have all 22. Who even cares, man?
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It's practice, bro.
36:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like at the end of the day, you supposed to do whatever you want to in practice.
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not like it's training camp or preseason game or like actual live reps. And again, like,
37:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at the end of the day, Brett, it's just people over and a lot of things and Jaden's a polarizing figure.
37:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's something that Washington fans got to remember, like, he's a polarizing figure in the NFL landscape, not just for watching being quarterback, but the NFL landscape is the rookie year that he had, a lot of people want to see him fail.
37:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a lot of people that want to see him succeed, especially the fans, but a lot of people want to see him fail in regards of not being able to recreate what he did as rookie year.
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: They went that gotcha, I told you so, moment, about him.
37:46
[SPEAKER_02]: He can't read, you know, defensive between the numbers.
37:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that for Quincy Man, board, ready to engage, ready to
38:01
[SPEAKER_02]: talk mess with, you know, a lot of the fans, I seen them, some of the individuals, we know we engage with our social media, some new people popping up in the mix, you know, at the NAA, that's what we're going to do and be matched, you know, you're oh, like, he, he's going to say what do you want to say?
38:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like nobody's right because we, nobody knows the scenario and on top of
38:31
[SPEAKER_02]: like it really don't matter and the the the biggest thing that hurts Quincy is his his resume started it has a lot to do with working with the Sean wants it.
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like for you to be hyper critical publicly about
38:51
[SPEAKER_02]: a quarterbacks play when the shine hasn't played well in years, you know, on top of, you know, all the other stuff off the show is kind of like, come on, Brad, like, you of all people talking, like,
39:14
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, he doesn't, like, he, so pussy works with Tyrod.
39:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He works with Joseph Hills, the Sean Watson, John's Dobs, you work with some college core bags.
39:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like not really been in the mix as much as he once was, because a lot of the stuff with the Sean Watson also just from a personality standpoint.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, people, people get that, that it from saying in social media,
39:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, he's, he's, he's a solid coach, but at the end of the day, it's just like, you, your main client does not play the quarterback position good right now.
39:53
[SPEAKER_02]: He might be able to bounce back, but he does not play the position at any capacity for a quarterback's coach to just be online, just judging individuals like a Jaden Daniels or Josh Allen or whoever the case is,
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you're gonna argue back to people, yeah, it's gonna get high in Gaze.
40:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that football does need to hurry up and get here for sure.
40:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you probably don't keep going with the engagement until people stop messaging.
40:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just, that's just him who he is, but man, it's nothing to worry about from a football standpoint.
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we have no clue what was asked of him.
40:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And all plays that you do run are not gonna work.
40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: like the progression may not be there.
40:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That person, we have no clue.
40:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even, all we saw was Jayden Dan's job back and moved his eyes and thought about it then saying it.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: We have no clue what person else it was then.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: We have no clue what Defence was doing, nothing, and it's like for someone
41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: a whole like in-depth explanation of this one play that we can we can only see for individuals in the visual in the video is crazy I mean first of all most let me just say I hate the air of vague posted like
41:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like people do it, like in Quincy's case, they do it because they see something they know they want to criticize, but they're scared of the kickback they're going to get from it.
41:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And Quincy's reaction kind of proved to me that that's exactly why he's
41:40
[SPEAKER_03]: They posted the way he did because now need to react to a very sensitive to the kickback and pushback he's getting so if that's the case Why not to suspend the get go what your issue is with this particular play on us and steady wanted to go with the whole That's the main thing.
41:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
41:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you when you when you when people ask for clarity It's a sample is stating what you said yes, and leave it up for people to agree or disagree
42:08
[SPEAKER_01]: stand on stand on it's Twitter.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the internet, but it comes.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It comes with the sad it's like If you if you keep it vague you'd lead it to people to Create their own interpretation and now you get the More your fight that's more more that is though was that is gold was this mass engagement or just
42:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it is.
42:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his personality, bro.
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't say like, you don't know what I know.
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he'll pass it off.
42:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he's inferior.
42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a way to guess.
42:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like, that's the whole issue.
42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a way to pass like the viewer or the person who's perceiving whatever you're putting out there.
42:54
[SPEAKER_03]: The basically say, I want to say this, but however you take it, I can go another direction.
42:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's how Quincy put it out there, you know, but then he did let one of his readers kind of interpret his sweet and he said, that's it.
43:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So I assume that that's what Quincy was going with.
43:09
[SPEAKER_03]: But we just have to go with that.
43:11
[SPEAKER_03]: But for me, just whatever you want to say about somebody or whatever you feel, especially if you're a quarterback coach or you feel like you're some kind of quarterback guru, say what you want to say and put it out there like whatever issue you have with
43:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that.
43:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever it is, it's a play you've viewed it.
43:30
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't like how it looked.
43:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, let's say Quincy's right.
43:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Quincy may be right.
43:35
[SPEAKER_03]: He may have perceived the situation correctly in that Jadenit.
43:39
[SPEAKER_03]: You get his pies to whatever you want me to get him order for questions.
43:43
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't go through.
43:44
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't go through the pressures the way he needs to go through them.
43:49
[SPEAKER_03]: It's OTAs, it's OTAs in June.
43:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.
43:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And especially with a new OTA.
43:53
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a situation where Jade and Danes is walking ahead, where King's very in year three.
44:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is not year three of Jade and Danes walking through the same system.
44:04
[SPEAKER_03]: This is year one of Cheated Day was a walk-up through a completely new system with David Blau.
44:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And if he has certain plays or certain situations in June, in OTAs, while they're playing 707s, 909s, and they'll cage 11 or 11s, every day it's not comfortable with one play,
44:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.
44:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not where humans.
44:29
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he has to be able to work through this as well.
44:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we hear a lot of great things about Jayden that he works through systems.
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: He layers things pretty fast.
44:37
[SPEAKER_03]: But if he's gone through this,
44:40
[SPEAKER_03]: year one with a new OC.
44:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is familiar with?
44:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's let's let's be fair.
44:44
[SPEAKER_03]: He's let's be failed to David Blau.
44:46
[SPEAKER_03]: David Blau's been here.
44:47
[SPEAKER_03]: But this is the first time David Blau was running his system.
44:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And if Jaden Daniels is going through a progression in it didn't look like a simulated past rush to me.
44:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean,
44:59
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just going through it getting it through his head, maybe he's, you know, getting those memory reps and we know that we've heard that Jayden is good with those kind of memory thing when he walked through things like one or two or three times Jayden kind of gets things pretty fast.
45:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that was a situation.
45:16
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm not so like this this is not a big deal to me because Jayden is still learning and this is OTAs.
45:24
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not in August.
45:25
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not in late July of training camps and we're not like implemented.
45:29
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not even in full contact with the defense.
45:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So if he has those situations where he knows he's not going to get a lot passed, Rush was significantly passed or Rush.
45:38
[SPEAKER_03]: he can kind of simulate thatness brain a little bit more.
45:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I can go through this a little bit more.
45:44
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, that's why I don't understand why things like this get kind of blown out of proportion.
45:49
[SPEAKER_03]: But for Quincy in general, I just hope Quincy whenever he makes these things, just don't be vague, bro.
45:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Say it with your chest, but have you feel about the situation?
45:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Say it.
45:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You're supposed to be at quarterback coach.
46:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think every quarterback coach that has
46:04
[SPEAKER_03]: any kind of like rep in the lead that I got in a field quarterback.
46:08
[SPEAKER_03]: They feel highly about themselves, right?
46:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Questie feels highly about himself because the child was and whoever else may have worked with, but you don't have to do the vape post and just go ahead and say if you can get go this is what I see and you can you can
46:21
[SPEAKER_03]: frame it in the way you're probably going to get as much kickback.
46:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But he framed it in a way where the kickback was inevitable in Washington fans are going to go at him and it feels like a wait.
46:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Me personally, I don't feel any type of wait, just because I know what the period is, I know what time it is.
46:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, if I start here and
46:40
[SPEAKER_03]: or either see it for myself when we start talking about the joint practice with the dolphins and the pre-season games were jaded and is it looking a certain way or maybe jaded and it's not getting certain things and maybe they could start to creep up a little bit more and you're talking about June, New OC, New System, New Everything.
46:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It just doesn't move me too much.
47:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: This is third year, but like, what do you think that will allow moving away from a question, bro?
47:19
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think that will allow, can unlock?
47:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if Jayden is at, like, this is me being modest.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: If Jayden is at, like, a B tier quarterback,
47:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we've ran for great.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, where, what is the ceiling in the presumed offensive scheme that is going to be in place of what was Cliff Kingsbury's scheme?
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we see, I'll leave it there.
48:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to influence answers.
48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: What do y'all think?
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how far higher can he elevate his game in a system like David Bows?
48:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it's hard to predict because we still don't know who David Blow is.
48:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we have an understanding of what he's going to run similar to, but we're also hearing this going to still be a lot of cliffs often still in the mix.
48:27
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many intangibles with this question.
48:31
[SPEAKER_02]: that we don't know, we don't know the answer.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know who's going to be there.
48:35
[SPEAKER_01]: There are some nuggets, like, who's the Darnale State within?
48:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He spoke yesterday, maybe a couple of days ago.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: My life, yeah.
48:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, about the the run game being a lot implicated a lot more so I can imagine if you connect the dots.
48:55
[SPEAKER_01]: There's conversations about the intention and and what the identity of this offense and say.
49:17
[SPEAKER_01]: just add a net into the conversation.
49:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I seen that clip and yeah, that sounds good, but we don't even know who that running back is going to be.
49:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, this is the first question versus who it is.
49:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but at the same token is like,
49:36
[SPEAKER_02]: If you, we don't know how a bill is going to look in that system.
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know or decide why and ends up being our B-1.
49:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know anything about K-Tron Island in this system.
49:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know, during McNickles, like, if everything is supposed to be predicated off of the run game, because that's what's going to allow you from understanding to get into the bootlegs, to get into the play action.
49:58
[SPEAKER_02]: All those things, I have no clue who is going to be the run-in-back.
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be the lead guy.
50:05
[SPEAKER_02]: in that room to help be productive on the run the side like that's just the reality of it.
50:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's hard for me to predict what David Blow and Jayden Daniel's parents don't look like.
50:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if we could sit back and say, oh, it's going to look similar to how it looked for
50:30
[SPEAKER_02]: the ceiling for Jayden Dames and VP because not only can he throw outside of in the numbers, but he also brings another element of being able to create plays outside of the pocketed on the fly that a Jared Goff or even came up with him, so he had some of that playmaking ability, but not the same as the Jayden Dames that he could take this up a notch, but I think
50:52
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the questioning around David Blau is the fact that he's new to this, so we don't know he's going to call a place.
50:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But then on top of that, this office is going to be predicated off of the run game, who's the lead back in that run in background.
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that's for me, that's my opinion.
51:15
[SPEAKER_02]: because I think the play actually helped why receivers get open, right?
51:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But who who is leading that room from a running back productivity standpoint at this moment we don't know.
51:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And Bill hasn't been able to participate in OTAs.
51:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I just read.
51:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I just read Ben Sandman's article about
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, and how, like, Washington's main focus behind is being able to be productive within the passing game because they felt like a lot of tells were being totally like there was a lot of tells in who was in the personnel running back wise, like, teens defensively to keep.
51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he mentioned behind rubs in the article, he was like, teens could tell.
52:00
[SPEAKER_02]: When Washington was going to run the ball versus going to run him back was in the game to be an actual past threat, think he said.
52:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacord Prosk and Mary only had one, one target or something like that one target on one of the session on the season.
52:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy McNickles, he helped in the past game, but he wasn't as explosive once also effort went down.
52:26
[SPEAKER_02]: They also talked about Chris Rodriguez.
52:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't a pass catching threat.
52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like his article was based on Bill showing that he could be effective in the passing game and Anthony Lane had said something along the lines like he has the ability to do it, but he hasn't shown it on the failure
52:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, we also got a question how much it that was just Cliff King's Barry's office.
52:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And he wasn't really looking to design plays to get outside of an awesome necklace.
52:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, also necklace, I feel like they knew coming in from the chargers that awesome necklace was ever seen even thread out of the backfield.
53:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And that you were gonna utilize them in that way as a weapon.
53:07
[SPEAKER_03]: But I felt like once he went down, they didn't give anybody else that opportunity.
53:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So we don't kind of know.
53:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think I do think we're sure Mike can have some inability to catch out in a back field.
53:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Bill has it.
53:20
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know.
53:21
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't see it, which is a true valent point.
53:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Jerome Ford is one of those running back says more doesn't think they get you those kind of tough yards.
53:31
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be one of those between the tackles right at best and then you have German McNickles who is back and I do think he's kind of versatile.
53:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he has their versatility to kind of catch pastes out of the back feel or kind of do anything you want them to do.
53:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not so much worried about Washington in the Ryan game and what they're going to do is as far as who is going to be your brain game I do think they have a bunch of capable guys in the back feel, but
53:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just more so who's going to kind of stand out and kind of separate themselves from the rest of that group.
54:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But as far as jaded in that office of system with a blue, and to most point about, you know, what he's a B tier quarterback, I kind of question what does that mean?
54:16
[SPEAKER_03]: What does that look like for a jaded in hangs when you talk about a B tier quarterback?
54:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Because B tier
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was trying to categorize it and I was more so just given not that like I don't know where you was going, but I was just trying to spit ball in terms of like if he had if he had room for growth and he was at this current level like how much room could he grow under a new presumed system.
54:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, when you frame them like that mall, I think there's a lot of room for growth because Cliff kind of had him in a system when you're talking about you.
54:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You kind of run it from gun a lot of times and you're more so the offices predicated to wars, you're going to pass the ball.
55:01
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a lot of run designs or you're not really taking advantage in a ring game, so to speak.
55:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Now you're in a different system where we presume we don't know what David was going to run, but we presume that David was going to run a system that's going to kind of cough a bit the pasting with the ranking, which means you're going to see more play action.
55:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to see more lean and into that ring game.
55:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you're going to see less of jaded playing hero ball.
55:26
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that made
55:28
[SPEAKER_03]: In this mapping, I think it's my raises ceiling because this forces Jayden to be better in different ways that cliffs offensive system force them to be better.
55:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And even go back to Carlos, we talked about LSU because LSU we know color systems more so are all about advantages and all about dominating independence game and Jayden kind of took advantage of his
55:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But in NFL it's been more so we're going to run the past and we'll use the Ringing.
56:01
[SPEAKER_03]: We want to like Cliff's not a Ringing guy.
56:03
[SPEAKER_03]: We knew that from Texas tech.
56:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We knew that from any Houston, wherever Cliff coach that, you know, in college, he kind of ran at college system.
56:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So I do think the ceiling might be a little bit higher in a David Blau system because
56:16
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of look at Caleb Williams and who I think Caleb, Jalen has, um, Jalen Dingers has more physical tools than Caleb Williams, but I thought that a Ben Johnson type of system where you're talking about that thing of like the best idea zoom him to run.
56:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he got the best out of Caleb and it protected Caleb in a sense, like, even when you talk about the Washington Chicago game from last year, Ben Johnson protected the hell I'm at Caleb at the end of their game.
56:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Caleb, even that scared to go out there and be this.
56:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
56:48
[SPEAKER_03]: He's put the ball in Beyonce Swift's hands and say, let's go and I knew I was like,
56:55
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Jayden has a bit more potential than that that you don't have to kind of be scared of Jayden putting the ball in Jayden's hands to go say Jayden, go win this game.
57:07
[SPEAKER_03]: But more so if you have that threat that Chicago had, what for the Andre Swift, even I'm a not my non-guy.
57:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Frucca's running back.
57:16
[SPEAKER_03]: He was the power back for a Chicago last year.
57:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you have that threat, and I don't think Jedis had that threat so far so she's been in a fail as far as we're gonna have that consistent run threat, that threat to take, you know, your eyes on the past game a bit.
57:30
[SPEAKER_03]: If you have that threat with a Jedin danger, I think the ceiling goes up even more than what you've seen so far.
57:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, 2024, we think that's the pinnacle.
57:40
[SPEAKER_03]: conference championship, Jayden carried us in, but what does it look like when Jayden doesn't have to carry us in when he gets a little bit of help?
57:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we think about names, but the system may be a big deal.
57:52
[SPEAKER_03]: What if the system helps Jayden get to that extra notch on that ceiling that we're looking for?
57:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I think we're talking about that.
58:01
[SPEAKER_03]: He can get to that.
58:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he can get to that.
58:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think with the, I think with the system,
58:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It does challenge Jayden from a professional standpoint, more than what a cliff off is with it.
58:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what you ultimately want, because as we're seeing with like RG 3 in Jan and Hans office, at some point, team start to click on it.
58:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you can't keep running the second air raid type system as we're seeing year two, look different in year one.
58:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the main thing that it helps.
58:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Jayden continued to grow as a player as a quarterback
58:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's why it's very exciting because we did see what it looked like.
58:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Williams under Ben Johnson's office versus I don't remember what the OC was for the Chicago Bears last year before Ben Johnson.
58:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But they were so cheer honestly.
58:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the doofus Seattle.
58:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was awesome.
58:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you talking.
58:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but yeah.
59:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So we we seeing what that that looked like.
59:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's going to be interesting, man.
59:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why we're so excited about the season.
59:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, we didn't have David Blow.
59:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, we didn't have Doris and Jones.
59:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to learn a lot in the first couple of matches.
59:13
[SPEAKER_02]: As a buddy, so it's evil, who's cowboys.
59:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And then who's week three?
59:15
[SPEAKER_02]: See you all, take notes.
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59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, two more things, and they both on the offensive, uh, will, Weber, what's up, will, uh, he said, you think you guys think fat man, why did I say it?
59:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys think K-Trump Allen can be all around there.
59:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're saying it.
59:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You used them for short yarders, but that don't necessarily mean you can catch.
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think his biggest enemy is his athleticism and more so what I mean is his foot speed.
59:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he actually is like a shifty high IQ running back, but if you can't, you can't
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think his first feet in at the college level was below average so like imagine when you get on the field in the field players and like they've been a government for those who think about like David and Jamir Gibbs and that combination, they've been a government is faster than K-Trump.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_03]: K-Trump as a what's his name?
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Peyton Barker's like for running back.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's siftier than Peyton.
1:00:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think Peyton was like the true North South guy, K-Shron can really like make first defenders miss.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and he, I think he reads, like, and Peyton gave off an inpatient run at that.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just hit the hole and he got what he could.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like K-Shron is a more patient.
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He flows better with the offensive line and the block scheme.
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think that's kind of a difference.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, K. Sean, this is own back.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and like I said, I like them and I do like him, but like, so to the question in which will as can you be all around back.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't think so.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I actually initially mentioned to her, but I thought you said, I thought you may like three out back.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_01]: All around maybe he can play in the past game.
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you know that.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to see his training camp is going to be big because like the competition and ironically enough, you mentioned for sure, I write, I think both of I mentioned for sure.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be surprised if for sure, right is number, run it back.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, head into a week one, um, it doesn't help that bill as hurt and dealing with a salt issue injury, but like, nevertheless, um, I think so many people kept giving the job to bail after his rookie season.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand that I completely understand that and even I lean bill, but like Rashad is the more balanced back if you really sit down and think about it.
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's clearly the biggest asset in the past game, but he told it.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He told it for two and a half years before they got Bucky Irvin in Tampa Bay.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you actually see the clip Anthony Lynn provided where he talked he talked about that he was like, yeah, we got a crowded running back wrong, but then he's guys really have been the lean back, you know.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you see that.
1:02:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, that's it.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I might go ahead.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So my line of step up, but that's, like you said, well, it's a crowd of room.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Last thing we get about here, Chico Conquo.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We're a week late, I mean, we're a week late, but it is OTAs and mandatory minicame comes up next week.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is still a timely conversation.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He said the plan
1:02:52
[SPEAKER_01]: is for him.
1:02:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a quote from him.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the plan for me as to take the next ever my career and become a player that I know I can be.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this is the place to do it.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's essentially about like getting in space and making plays.
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about Jayden and I think this coincides with the conversation.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_01]: She is a player who is not directly aligned with the Zacker's quality, right?
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_01]: When he provides is a different skill set.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see a person who's going to get you 7, 8 catches in game, like a Zacker's.
1:03:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a person that I'd probably give you that.
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_01]: three for 50 set line or four for 40 or maybe five for 80 one day, like I think those or even two for 60, like that's the type of tight end that you get out of Chico, Conquo, but also think like to his point and what I'm actually excited to see with with Chico as well.
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, there's so much room for growth and I think in a offense that is a little bit more stable in Tennessee.
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's me putting it nicely.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, even my expectation that you can be under seven.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Him like I think he could be a volume catcher.
1:04:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, this is the mental highest used.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, what benefits Washington and even Jaden Daniels is knowing that a system like this presumed system benefits not just the receivers and not sure number one receiver and Terry, but like any Titan in this system.
1:04:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That can include baits in and Ben said it.
1:04:35
[SPEAKER_01]: uh but jico koko your your expected starting number one tight in like the elevation that he can have in an offense that features him but also has a quarterback like jaden um i think is something where like uh you're selling could be a probal player uh if all things be equal you can you can stay healthy and jaden can stay healthy.
1:05:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, more, I've been all record to say, Chico Concrol, he's going to give you more in the Yag game than Earth's cave, which I think anyone who's watched us over the last couple of years can agree with that, because Earth's wasn't going to give you much in the Yag game, but what I will pose the question of, or at least the proposition is,
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_03]: If he is giving you more than yet, let's say his stat lives look a lot like three for 67 or three for 70.
1:05:28
[SPEAKER_03]: He's putting up those yards.
1:05:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that more valuable than what Zach hurts in the 2020, four season, where he's putting up 11 catch games or seven or eight catch games, pretty routinely for 80 or a 70 yards, whatever the case may be.
1:05:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Like,
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that trade off going to pay off a Washington in this sense?
1:05:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Like just those three catches for those big plays or whatever the speed More so then the guy that can sit open in a zone and he's going to get you those reliable catches he might fall down as soon as he catches it
1:06:02
[SPEAKER_03]: But he sits down on his own, he catches it.
1:06:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a reliable, he can get you posted at first, they'll marker it.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that's what I want to see, she kind of bring, I know she can bring the, the yak, I know she can bring to play, making it exact and get, but can she give you that reliable, consistent target throughout a game that you know he's going to move to chains?
1:06:24
[SPEAKER_03]: like, she's going to, you know, he's going to find that place.
1:06:27
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be that security blanket for a JD names.
1:06:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the question for cheating.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I hope she can do that.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if she can do that, he can, he can also give you a zap that can give as we talked about with the playmaking ability.
1:06:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He can start turning some of those three for 67 games.
1:06:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It's some six to
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_03]: 100 games like he can be a premier tight in me if he can do it as Zach first did.
1:06:53
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the question you want to see can chic elevate his game to and that's kind of one of the reasons why I feel like
1:07:00
[SPEAKER_03]: And Antonio Williams might be a favorite target on the gate because I feel like he's a separator.
1:07:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a he can get open pretty quickly and maybe he'll be a favorite target of Jayda.
1:07:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Early and maybe he'll kind of replace some of the awesome necklace that hurts thing that you're kind of missing going to the next year's scene.
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_03]: But if she can give you any semblance of that if that's what she can add to his game as far as I know how to get a look.
1:07:24
[SPEAKER_03]: and I can find ways to open a loan with the playmaker.
1:07:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a complete tight end.
1:07:30
[SPEAKER_03]: You have a head that type of got a long time to watch it.
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe even Chris Kooley.
1:07:34
[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about a Chris Kooley type of tight end.
1:07:36
[SPEAKER_03]: We've hoped that Fred Davis becomes that or some other guys.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Fred Davis had to speed.
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_03]: We thought Fred Davis was going to be every in the corner.
1:07:47
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, a Jordan Reed in Jordan Reed, it was just to help.
1:07:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Jordan Reed's health just couldn't let him stand in the field.
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_03]: He probably would have been the best sight in and watched his in history if he could have stayed healthy.
1:07:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, she cast some of those qualities.
1:08:01
[SPEAKER_03]: He has some of those like Jordan Reed qualities.
1:08:03
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just, you can kind of spread about a little bit.
1:08:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, for like the small, I would say, Derek Carrier.
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah.
1:08:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Derek Carrier were like, I used to play with him one mad and before he came to the scenes.
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:08:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew who he was.
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a dog and he got hurt here.
1:08:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot what the injury was, but I think he blew his knee up.
1:08:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Something like that.
1:08:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the end of him.
1:08:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the literal end of him.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But he had like a stretch where he was like,
1:08:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, all right, like any only 26, 27 years old and we tried for God was going on with Jordan Reed and I think Vernon Davis was still around.
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not too sure.
1:08:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get my wires, but Derek Kerry was around.
1:08:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, like, he may actually do something here in Embo.
1:09:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Blue is Neo.
1:09:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's the question that's going to check a couple.
1:09:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Can he, can he take his game from just okay, but I got the ball on my hand, I can make a play happen versus I can do that, but I can also be that reliable consistent target about a 60 minute for a quarter game that you're going to find me and I'm going to always do things with the ball.
1:09:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what separates.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_03]: what Chego Clark who is now to what Anthony O.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Gates or Tony Gazzales was like, you know, if he can find that kind of ability, you're talking about an autopotite, because he already has a playmaking ability with him.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think with Chego, I think I potentially have to be a thousand yard tight in, because when you sit back and look at this Rossi right now, he's pretty much
1:09:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people want to put Antonio Williams in that, but you know, Chick is actually proven to be able to test them all and make plays after the catch.
1:10:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's a yak guy.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_02]: He has been featured in any offense in his NFL career, but he still has been able to put up high numbers for a tight end in lead, and especially for what Washington has been getting out of the tight end position, that would have been right on par.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I think with now being a vocal point in my audience and being at number two at this point, speaking June and Levin, I think he beat up to a thousand yards.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You look at like a closer lover who wasn't the number one target for the bear and joining the season because it was co-combat.
1:10:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's 115 you've received in yours on like 55 catches.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And Chig is much more explosive than a closer lover.
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that she got real potentially hit one cake or come down there close to it.
1:10:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's the greatest rot runner, but I think that he has great speed and he's not gonna go down off of the first contact.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's definitely a yak guy.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He's part of the best yak guy on the team because Terry and a yak guy I don't really try to think of the rest of the wine receiver room.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't really have no yak guys.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_02]: On the roster, maybe you were shot white.
1:11:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You would count him in the mix now.
1:11:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's your main yet guy.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was one thing where Jaden was comfortable with Zach or it's a funny hand, and he's hot to me.
1:11:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But like you said, Drake, hurts wasn't on or nowhere.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like caught the body, gonna write them.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So now take the numbers that Zach was able to get with Jaden, David was staying healthy.
1:11:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And now put in the guy that can make similar players, but it's not going to go down as soon as it gets above, that's the one that could possibly get into a thousand receiving hours at the time in position.
1:11:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, check understands that this will make a great opportunity for him to come here to watch to because he can be a feature guy and he hasn't experienced that in his NFL career, but at the same token, it kind of goes back into, you know, now having to live up to the production.
1:12:15
[SPEAKER_02]: of what that contract entails and having more snaps, you know, what are you going to do with that?
1:12:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost certainly to be able to know on the defensive side.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you get a play a bunch of snaps in Kansas City.
1:12:29
[SPEAKER_02]: What is he going to do with more opportunity?
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that Jake has all the traits to be a type tied in within this NFL.
1:12:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's somebody, if I was a gambling man, I bet on to have a breakout
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_01]: There is, um, I think we're good here.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, regularly schedule program next week.
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't know the schedule.
1:12:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when the practices are, um, or when they've been practicing.
1:13:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's next week.
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but we'll be back on Tuesday.
1:13:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if if the many camps are like on Wednesday, then, you know,
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll stop you on here on Tuesday.
1:13:19
[SPEAKER_01]: All 32 is on Wednesday.
1:13:22
[SPEAKER_01]: All 32 is also live this week too.
1:13:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We're here on tomorrow.
1:13:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So 7 p.m. Another final season on Saturday.
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, hey, the clock tomorrow.
1:13:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I will have all 32 shout-out to the defenders.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how they did it, but especially without Tammu, but they back in the championship this weekend.
1:13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you paid attention or any of your paid attention.
1:13:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I missed the game.
1:13:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I was doing.
1:13:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching Flat and Football.
1:13:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, but they're back in the championship games so I'm a I'm a swing net that's on Sunday That's gonna be pretty cool.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then yeah, I think we're good.
1:14:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, try out a film We're going to the game No, I did it.
1:14:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It did sound like I was going to the game I'm a swing net as I'm a watch the game I Want to know I'm sorry.
1:14:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I was I was trying to oh, yeah the world world cut
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It is interesting, I don't know.
1:14:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize for the face I just made if you watch YouTube.
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_01]: The world club is actually pretty interesting.
1:14:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's entertaining, I get it.
1:14:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I think there's things on.
1:14:34
[SPEAKER_01]: There's games on all day.
1:14:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, Dave.
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a sports weekend.
1:14:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You see fighting at the White House.
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a world cup.
1:14:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care anything about that.
1:14:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to tell you everything, I don't want you to say, I just have to mention that for the hell of it.
1:14:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, you do got woke up.
1:14:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You got 50 seconds for me to have time.
1:14:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, woke up.
1:14:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know it started today.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I just seen a black Mexican scorer go against South Africa.
1:15:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you have to face the bar tonight.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You say it's a shit, right?
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_02]: They're good and stalkers.
1:15:08
[SPEAKER_03]: They're good for years, so I'm gonna work for them.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_02]: See you guys.
1:15:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You've been gonna look at in Botte over there for an Aldo and messy.
1:15:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I need something to hold me down to some elite.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can watch AJ the band's head and watch it as well.
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_02]: When is the NBA driving?
1:15:25
[SPEAKER_03]: It's less than two weeks, so it's like not Tuesday.
1:15:29
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a two night event now.
1:15:31
[SPEAKER_03]: They try to do it like the NFL, so they're going to do a two night NBA draft event.
1:15:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Starts on June 23rd.
1:15:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So what did y'all think about that game last night before we get to about it?
1:15:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to sleep.
1:15:43
[SPEAKER_03]: When it was so 20 in that point, I was done.
1:15:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all.
1:15:47
[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, it's got this.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I woke up, I found out that Darren fought so the church, he turned over the
1:15:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that man was treating him.
1:15:58
[SPEAKER_02]: He was treating all over the game.
1:15:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, and then the last minute didn't make it any better.
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you two, you two didn't experience an NBA that you don't have.
1:16:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he would be off my team.
1:16:09
[SPEAKER_03]: That that broke.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
1:16:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Why, I mean, they did blow a 30 point lead.
1:16:15
[SPEAKER_01]: 29 point lead.
1:16:16
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I was asleep.
1:16:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that was that.
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't all on, I ain't all on cause, but that's not where she had.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He sure she had the worst for it.
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_03]: He made the most memorable play.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good, good to file burn, you ain't got to go off an old layer and his explanation post-game was just terrible, like, we clearly clip, but clearly, you explained exactly what you did.
1:16:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The question is, do you think you made a mistake?
1:16:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, fuck you.
1:16:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's my question.
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't tell us what you did, acknowledge you made a mistake.
1:16:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, fuckers say he had him be like, where?
1:16:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, you a fast dude, but you did not
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if you had a beat breath, 12 seconds left.
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, don't make sense.
1:17:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you, up, up, up, up, up, up, way, you get fat, you get to go back through.
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just, bro, there's some people, some people don't have high IQ.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Matter of fact, the whole team, like a high Q&A game situations, because even when being in another game, he calls in the game.
1:17:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Wayne, you guys think of a New York celebrities, bro.
1:17:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I'm sick of seeing these New York celebrities.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Tamal Swiff and a New York jersey or whatever she's wearing.
1:17:29
[SPEAKER_03]: When the hell she become a Nick's fan?
1:17:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, these got them celebrity.
1:17:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone just wants to be a part of this training.
1:17:35
[SPEAKER_03]: This is very annoying.
1:17:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I ain't got a lot of you, bro.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope the spurs come back for three to one, because I can't take any amortists fake New York fan bullshit.
1:17:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the fact that they're open to shit out of spurs fans out of the game to stop and dig his out.
1:17:51
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1:18:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, we got to deal with the people that come with it.
1:18:17
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we out of here got to go, all 32 up tomorrow, the penalty back to Tuesday, take me even on the Saturday.
1:18:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna let them hit the hole that you gon' cut it off.
1:18:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You gon' play through for the longer you gon' put it off.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You're the funny savvy hitters put your pants in.
1:18:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be looking for the rest, don't don't fly again.
1:18:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep the hammer on, keep the police tight.
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You the type you want to win by any means, right?
1:18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You should look alive.
1:18:46
[SPEAKER_00]: This is dropping out.