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Episode 15: Why Trying Harder to Sleep Is Keeping You Awake, with Sleep Psychologist Dr. Amelia Scott.

This week’s guest could not be more fitting. Dr. Amelia Scott is a clinical psychologist, sleep researcher, and the founder of Circa Sleep, and she walks Lee and Irene through something both hosts have lived but never had language for: the cycle of insomnia and sleep anxiety. There is a deep dive into CBTI, the gold standard treatment that almost nobody outside the field has heard of, a fairly memorable conversation about Irene’s Oura ring, and a genuinely useful explanation of why trying harder to sleep is usually the very thing that stops it from happening.In Womansplain, Justin returns…

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